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Speaker 1: And welcome to Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, January twenty third of the year,

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Speaker 2: Our lord, twenty twenty two. So happy to work alongside

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Speaker 2: the NFL to time this up right at halftime. Dare

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Speaker 2: we call it a halftime heat addition of late kick Blive.

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Speaker 2: We are jam packed. We are high at top downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: So much going on with the portal.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching the game, you probably missed a bombshell

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Speaker 2: out of the portal. It's not Caleb Williams, it's not

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, but it's on the tier right below that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Also, just in general, how much college football is changing,

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Speaker 2: what the transfer portal has done. I know people talk

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Speaker 2: about this in the abstract. I was at the gym

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Speaker 2: earlier today. There were a couple of guys combined age

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Speaker 2: about three hundred and seventy seven years old, and they

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Speaker 2: were talking about how the transferred.

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Speaker 1: Portals just changed college football.

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Speaker 2: How I didn't press them against the wall on it,

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Speaker 2: but we are going to talk about it because of

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Speaker 2: the inspiration that I was given in the locker room

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Speaker 2: of the YMCA here in Nashville today. So we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have that. We're gonna have specific portal updates. We've got

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Speaker 2: the Mood Tracker series rolling on. We're gonna do South

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Speaker 2: Carolina tonight. All that plus two very spicy questions from

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Speaker 2: the Late Kick inbox, we're gonna hit some Q and A.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're following on Twitter at Late Kick Josh

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Speaker 2: because there's so much popping right now. We're doing two

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Speaker 2: live shows per week, but we're getting very close probably

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Speaker 2: this week actually, we're getting very close to slightly adjusting

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Speaker 2: or tweaking our schedule. And that doesn't mean taking stuff away.

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Speaker 2: That probably means adding a thing or two. So make

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Speaker 2: sure you're following there. And also we're having a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun right now. I'm tweeting out my Video of

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Speaker 2: the Year nominees. As you know, I'm on the sideline

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Speaker 2: for big games every week and got the eye Josh there,

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Speaker 2: so I get some really good footage and you saw

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Speaker 2: it during the year, but sometimes you forget from earlier

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Speaker 2: in the year what all we had and what we

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Speaker 2: had access to and as an audience, what we got

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Speaker 2: to see. So I'm putting out one or two videos

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Speaker 2: per day, and I think eventually when I empty the

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Speaker 2: entire arsenal. We're gonna have to vote on what the

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Speaker 2: best videos of the year were. Boy, we're so blessed

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Speaker 2: to have some incredible vantage points on Saturdays, so make

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Speaker 2: sure you're checking that out at late kick. Josh, All right,

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Speaker 2: let's go, let's dive in. Let's waste no time college football.

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Speaker 2: She's a change in right now, and you can argue

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Speaker 2: for the better or for the worse. You can be

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Speaker 2: totally indifferent on this. But for a long time, here's

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Speaker 2: one thing we did know for a long time. If

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Speaker 2: you fired your head coach and then you cleaned out

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Speaker 2: your coaching staff, there were a couple of things that

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Speaker 2: you could pretty well take for certain, and one of

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Speaker 2: them was, you've got to rebuild on your hands. With

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Speaker 2: limited exceptions, you're going to have a rebuild on your hands.

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Speaker 2: You've certainly got to get a head coach, and that's

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Speaker 2: a crapshoot in and of itself, and then he's got

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Speaker 2: And then there's no real good time to do it,

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Speaker 2: because you've got a firing happening right in the middle

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Speaker 1: And so you got all that mess.

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Speaker 2: And then once you get everything in and everything's settled,

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Speaker 2: and you know who the head coach is, and you

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Speaker 2: got your coordinators, and you've got your strength and conditioning

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Speaker 2: coach and all your position coaches filled out, then you

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Speaker 2: got to worry about the entire premise. That was the

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Speaker 2: reason for firing the previous staff to begin with, and

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Speaker 2: it's probably that the program wasn't in a good spot.

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Speaker 2: LSU football was not in a good spot. They fired

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Speaker 2: ed They brought in Brian Kelly. USC football was not

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Speaker 2: in a good spot. They fired Clay Helton, they brought

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Speaker 2: in Lincoln Riley. What that used to mean is, even

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Speaker 2: if you're excited about the hire. Once upon a time,

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Speaker 2: Alabama hired Nick Saban, they still went seven and six

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to turn over and it's not gonna

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Speaker 2: happen overnight. Things have changed, Things have changed drastically and

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to debate tonight whether I like where

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Speaker 1: Let's put those opinions to the sidecles.

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Speaker 2: We've got plenty of time in what some casuals would

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Speaker 2: call the offseason to debate that. What I want to

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Speaker 2: And then I want to ask you, do you get

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Speaker 2: what's going on right now?

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Speaker 1: Look around, Look at what LSU and USC specifically are

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Speaker 2: You could throw Ole Miss in here, you could throw

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Speaker 2: a number of programs in here, but I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: programs that have made coaching changes. Kiffin was that Ole

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Speaker 2: six months ago. And now they're there. And what used

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Speaker 2: to mean take some time, be patient, we got to

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Speaker 2: rebuild has totally been turned on its ear. These numbers

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Speaker 2: LSU's made a lot of moves in the portal. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: we are constantly watching USC, even up to and including

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't have to wait for that. If you

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Speaker 2: Transfer portal rankings which are on your screen if you're

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Speaker 2: Ole miss Is knocked it out of the park. They

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Speaker 2: may not be done. Arkansas certainly not done. They've made

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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm gonna hit you with some numbers here.

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Speaker 2: I want you to think about telling your nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: Do you know that since Lincoln Riley took over at USC,

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Speaker 2: And they're not done. The biggest of which could still

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Speaker 2: They're not even the spring practice yet. Sark is doing

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Speaker 2: it's all now. If it's really not all that far

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Speaker 2: that new regime not so subtly told them, probably need

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Speaker 2: the benefit when you hire a guy who's got a

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Speaker 2: he's had to do it several ways. There's no guess work,

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Speaker 2: there's no one way he got there. Brian Kelly's had

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Speaker 1: Now, how did we do it? Then? All right, then

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Speaker 2: Then you say, go find me the players that fit

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Speaker 2: five years ago, even it's even more of a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I do not think as a result of what we're

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Speaker 2: it's also who's gonna get paid what? And when are

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Speaker 2: and then when are the salaries going to start to

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Speaker 1: Who's that bubble gonna pop? I don't know. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think it's happened yet. In fact, I think if.

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Speaker 2: We're looking on average three or four years down the road,

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Speaker 2: bit more inflated. And if it's not an outright dollar figure,

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Speaker 2: his true value should be right now. But if you

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why. Quite simply put, whether it

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Speaker 2: or not, no coach has really ever had this kind

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Speaker 1: At it that way.

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Speaker 2: But coaching salaries are going to keep going up because

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Speaker 2: You know, this Wednesday, we got a five star reveal

436
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Speaker 2: show coming up, for example, for the twenty twenty three class.

437
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 2: Arkansas is really killing it in twenty twenty three recruiting.

438
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Speaker 2: We got the twenty twenty two signing day coming up

439
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Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, we'll be down in Fort

440
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Speaker 2: Lauderdale for another big show. But the twenty twenty three

441
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 2: class is already coming together for them. You know, they're

442
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 2: ranked top five right now. Of course, you've got the

443
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 2: CENEC out there who would say, well, they won't be

444
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 2: top five when it's time to actually put pen to

445
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 2: paper next year. Look, maybe they're not, but remember when

446
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 2: Penn State, Jesse you remember this, You remember when you're

447
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 2: Penn State and Nitney Lines, they were number one for

448
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: a long time and I made a pretty big deal

449
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Speaker 2: about it.

450
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Speaker 1: Tweeted out a couple of times, Hey, congrats.

451
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Speaker 2: As of this moment, Penn State's ranked number one, and

452
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 2: everyone said, well, they're not going to finish number one, okay, but.

453
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Speaker 1: They're like six right now. That's a big deal.

454
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Speaker 2: You don't formally go from ranked number one to outside

455
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Speaker 2: the top thirty. So the point is, unless all the

456
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Speaker 2: kids decommit, I can pretty much guarantee Arkansas's gonna have

457
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Speaker 2: us nice, solid twenty twenty three recruiting class. And as

458
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Speaker 2: you know, it is our personal belief on here that

459
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 2: we are blending those two concepts. We are blending the

460
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Speaker 2: players you're adding traditionally, and we are certainly combining that

461
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Speaker 2: with the guys you get out of the portal. Arkansas

462
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: is killing it Arkansas destination program. What about Jermaine Burton.

463
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Speaker 2: This is huge news. This has happened in the past

464
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 2: hour to hour and a half. Former now Georgia wide

465
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Speaker 2: receiver Jermaine Burton, he has portaled.

466
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Speaker 1: It is a verb.

467
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 2: It has been a verb ever since we established it

468
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Speaker 2: as a verb about a month ago. Jermaine Burton has

469
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,719
Speaker 2: portaled from Georgia to Alabama. This is an addition to

470
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Speaker 2: them adding Jermaine Gibbs, who was the big time running

471
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Speaker 2: back from Georgia Tech. This is an addition to them,

472
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Speaker 2: adding Eli Rix, who's a five star corner out of LSU.

473
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Speaker 2: Nick Saban said, once upon a time feels like an

474
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Speaker 2: eternity again.

475
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Speaker 1: It was only like a year ago.

476
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Speaker 2: Someone asked him about the transfer portal and he shrugged,

477
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Speaker 2: and he said, we'll probably lose some good players, we'll

478
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Speaker 2: probably add some great players. And Alabama's lost a lot

479
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Speaker 2: of good players this cycle to the transfer portal. I

480
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: don't think they were exactly fighting on those guys' ways

481
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: out the door, respectively, but now you've seen what's come

482
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: in the door. Jermaine Burton just made a multi million

483
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: dollar decision as it relates to his future.

484
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Speaker 1: More on that in a second.

485
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Speaker 2: Gibbs was maybe one of the very best players in

486
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Speaker 2: the ACC as a conference last year, and you didn't

487
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Speaker 2: know a lot about him because he was playing for

488
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: a subpar team at Georgia Tech. And Eli Rix is

489
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 2: one of the best defensive back prospects in the entire nation.

490
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Speaker 2: And Nick Saban's just kind of added all of him.

491
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Speaker 2: And here's what you don't know. What you don't have

492
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Speaker 2: a way of knowing, but I can assure you you

493
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: can assume is reality is how many guys are reaching

494
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: out to Alabama every day who are currently on rosters

495
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: looking for a spot, who are probably either told weight

496
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: or they're told I'm sorry, there's nothing we can do.

497
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: We may have offered you out of high school, we

498
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: uhould come inn. This is exactly how Nick Saban told

499
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Speaker 2: you this will play out. Now, what kind of addition

500
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: is this? It is a sure fire starter, future NFL

501
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: first second round kind of talent.

502
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Speaker 1: That's who Jermaine Burton is. Jermaine Burton is the kind.

503
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Speaker 2: Of guy that if he's healthy, which he wasn't always

504
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: at Georgia, but if he is healthy, he's going to

505
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: go from being a solid, dependable receiver who never played

506
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Speaker 2: with a star quarterback to being a fifteen hundred plus

507
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: yard reception kind of guy in yardage with Bryce Young.

508
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Speaker 2: And he's also going to be a guy who no

509
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 2: one's talking about really in the next year's Mott drafts

510
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: right now to doing exactly what Jamison Williams just did.

511
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: He does not mirror the skill set of Jamison Williams,

512
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: but he doesn't need to either. Jamison Williams came in,

513
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: and they had a bunch of true freshmen aside from

514
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Speaker 2: John Metchi. Now Jermaine Burton comes in, and Jermaine Burton

515
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: is going to be a rock solid, known commodity piece

516
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: in that receiver room. And now you've got a year's

517
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Speaker 2: worth of seasoning on guys like a jyhul. You got

518
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: a year's worth of seasoning on Jojo Earl and Christian

519
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: Leary and JA Cory Brooks. They're going to have a

520
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: really good receiver room. I'm not question market tight end

521
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 2: to me. They got law to back. They don't have

522
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: a traditional stretch to the field tight end. Alabama's going

523
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: to be really, really good next year. I know that

524
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Speaker 2: shocks all of you, but Nick Saban just made another

525
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: big pickup. The transfer portal is on fire. Now here's

526
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: the good news. If you don't like all to talk

527
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: about the portal. Eventually this will subside because the drop

528
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Speaker 2: ad dates, especially for programs that are on the Semester

529
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: system that's coming up very soon. The quarter system programs,

530
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: they can go a little bit deeper. But I think

531
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Speaker 2: that by the time we get into February, this will

532
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: start to subside.

533
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: And then there'll be another huge wave after spring practice.

534
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Speaker 1: And that is the transfer portal.

535
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Speaker 2: Look at it as of a Sunday night, January twenty third,

536
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Speaker 2: the year of Old Lord, twenty twenty two.

537
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Speaker 1: Let's talk moods, shall we.

538
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: We've all got moods and they vary, changing with the tide,

539
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: so to speak. The mood tracker rolls Intombia, South Carolina tonight.

540
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: I was over on the Big Spur earlier today and

541
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: I did my usual drop in, Hey, how you guys

542
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: been doing.

543
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the mood.

544
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: The mood around South Carolina football is what right now?

545
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: And we got a ton of great responses over there,

546
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: and I would encourage you if you're a South Carolina

547
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: fan you haven't participated. It's not like I'm going to

548
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: lot in the thread after the show's over. So I'm

549
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: having a lot of fun over there with those guys.

550
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: But South Carolina football is so clearly in a better

551
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: position right now than anyone out there could have expected

552
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: after year one under Shane Biember. I know that you

553
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: have the usual critics out there. They're probably Clemson fans

554
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: or Georgia fans or Florida fans. You cannot expect them

555
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: to give a rational take on your program. So aside

556
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: from the casual detractors whose opinions because of other affiliation

557
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: you just need to eliminate from your life. How can

558
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: any neutral observer or actual South Carolina fan look at

559
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: the football program right now and say anything other than wow,

560
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: they're way ahead of the schedule. I had in mind,

561
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: at least that's exactly where South Carolina football is. And

562
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: so I was scrolling through all the responses, and I

563
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: was gauging a couple of my buddies who are South

564
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: Carolina fans, and the mood around South Carolina football right

565
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: now is strapped in. That's what they are. There's excitement,

566
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: but there was excitement when Shane Biemer got hired. I

567
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't say everyone was strapped in yet, because there were

568
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: a couple of big fears. No one wanted to talk

569
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: about him, but you had him in the back of

570
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: your mind. But as far as I can tell, those

571
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: fears have kind of been eliminated. I'll talk about the

572
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: fears in a second, but I just want, for argument's

573
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Speaker 2: sake and for context, to remind you Shane Beemer's hire

574
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 2: was so critical because Shane Beemer was the guy the

575
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: fan base wanted. This is not a situation where the

576
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: fan base backed one of their own. But then the

577
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: administration went and hired a guy that checked more of

578
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: their boxes. And so a guy came in and he

579
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: was needing to prove it to the fan base and

580
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: win the fan base over Shaneiemer didn't have to win

581
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: the fan base over case. Shane Beemer is one of them,

582
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: so he came home to them. It's a culture fits

583
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: the same thing Arkansas did with Pittman. So they were

584
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: already thrilled and ecstatic.

585
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: But then what did he do? In year one?

586
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: They didn't have to swallow a two win season. They

587
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: won seven games? And why is that important? Context?

588
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: Folks?

589
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: The over under win totals started at three and a

590
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: half and it was four by the time the season

591
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: kicked off, so they went over by a solid three games.

592
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: They beat Florida in year one under Beamer. They beat

593
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: Auburn in year one under Beamer. They capped it with

594
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: a Duke's Mayo Bowl win. Memorable Duke's Mayo Bowl win

595
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: over North Carolina. Can you imagine telling the Gamecock fan

596
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: that before the season. Oh and by the way quarterback

597
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: was a total disaster for him, a mess all year.

598
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: And now afterwards they've gone and attacked the transfer portal

599
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: and they've got Spencer Ratler and they got Stagner and

600
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: they're not done in all likelihood with doing that. So

601
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: they got a little Michigan State vibe about him, to

602
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: be honest with you, in the way that they've chosen

603
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: to attack the portal. But the biggest fears being eliminated

604
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 2: are just this. Shane Biemer comes in. The crowd wanted him.

605
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: The crowd's excatic because they got him, but there's a

606
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: big fear. You do not win football games podium, you

607
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: don't win him during spring, and you certainly don't win

608
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: him on Twitter. So they hit home runs on all

609
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: those fronts. Everyone loves when Shane Beemer talks. The guy's

610
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: very influential, he's very interactive. So Shane Beemer plays well,

611
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: but we've seen coaches play well in those arenas and

612
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: they end up sucking on Saturdays.

613
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Shane Biemer, he did.

614
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: All the former, but then when it came time to

615
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: prove it in the latter category, they did it. They

616
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: won seven games in year one. They're recruiting well they're

617
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: killing it in the transfer portal. They have exceeded every

618
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: possible expectation out there.

619
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: And what happened is you eliminated.

620
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: The biggest fear, the biggest fear to me about any

621
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: new coach, Shane Biemer included is what happens when the.

622
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: Sugar high wears off?

623
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: Because everyone loved it when he came in the door,

624
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: I did too. We loved it as a program here

625
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: our program. We loved it for their program. We love

626
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: South Carolina. I love the way that he handled it.

627
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: Very interactive, have very open. The program's very open. But

628
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: the concern was what if they get in the season

629
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: and they just get drug and it's so far beyond

630
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: the pale that it's really hard to get people to

631
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: still buy in. That's totally eliminated, totally eliminated, and so

632
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: now that's why everyone's strapped in.

633
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: You can be excited but still be a little bit hesitant.

634
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Now that you've seen some of those boxes get checked

635
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: in year one, you feel very confident that, well, if

636
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: we did that in year one, we're not going to

637
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: take forty two. We're certainly not going to take fourteen

638
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: steps back in year two. And we've already seen sort

639
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: of the positive context boxes being checked too.

640
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: Staffs all in.

641
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: I think they're turning that into a destination for coaches,

642
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: by the way. I feel the same way about North Carolina.

643
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: North Carolina and South Carolina. I feel like those have

644
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: become secret destination spots for assistant coaches. Not that they

645
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: weren't always, but it used to be that assistant coaches

646
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: looked and just flat out thought, there are things I

647
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: want to accomplish professionally that I may not be able to.

648
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: At South Carolina, I don't know if they think that

649
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: way anymore. You can say the same thing about Arkansas.

650
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're thinking that way anymore.

651
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: Now, what do you look for moving forward?

652
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Speaker 2: Is you look for the same thing week over week,

653
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Speaker 2: year over year, incremental improvement. They need more depth places

654
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Speaker 2: like defensive end. A lot of folks on the big

655
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Speaker 2: spur we're talking about this. There was a lot of

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Speaker 2: back and forth about offense. From a philosophical standpoint, Do

657
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Speaker 2: you keep your offensive coordinator? Do we like the way

658
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Speaker 2: things are progressing offensively? Here's what I'll tell you. I

659
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Speaker 2: choose to look at that from a much higher altitude

660
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Speaker 2: than maybe you guys, because you watch every play of

661
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Speaker 2: every game. I get all that, but you just you

662
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Speaker 2: got to understand that stuff. If you've got the right

663
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Speaker 2: coach and you've got the right culture in the house,

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Speaker 2: it will work itself out. And if the head coach

665
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Speaker 2: endorses the guy and believes in the guy, maybe it

666
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Speaker 2: works out. Then here is the worst case scenario. The

667
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: worst case scenario is you don't have the right fit.

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Speaker 2: If you've got the right fit a head coach and

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Speaker 2: you got the right culture, this other stuff falls into place.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not overnight, but this other stuff falls into place.

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Speaker 2: South Carolina folks, as they should be, are now strapped

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Speaker 2: in And I'll tell you, outside of Georgia, who else

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Speaker 2: are you looking around the East and just immediately penciling

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Speaker 2: in a loss to You may not be doing that

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Speaker 2: with Georgia either, but you're not doing that with anyone else.

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Speaker 1: You're not even doing it with Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Clemson looks more vulnerable than they have in

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Speaker 2: several years.

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Speaker 1: And I know for a long time from the like.

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Speaker 2: The twenty fifteen through twenty twenty era, people looked at

681
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Speaker 2: the direction of these two programs respectively, and you thought

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Speaker 2: to yourself, there's no way South carolina'll ever come back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they will. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: First off, they don't have to go all the way

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Speaker 2: up there and catch Clemson. Clemson could come back to

686
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Speaker 2: the pack. Stranger things have happened. Well, now, you know,

687
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Speaker 2: you sort of see two things happening at once. You

688
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Speaker 2: see one program trending one way one program. I'm not

689
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Speaker 2: gonna say trending because it's still very very small sample size,

690
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Speaker 2: but Clemson looks to have maybe begun a little bit

691
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Speaker 2: of a coming back to the pack or maybe you know,

692
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: some overturn turnover in the program. It's a good time

693
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Speaker 2: to be a South Carolina GAMECOG fan. It's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of opportunity here. And that Shaneemer contract,

695
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Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to talk about this specifically, but I'll just I'll put

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Speaker 2: it out there. Whatever Shane Beemer's making right now, it's

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Speaker 2: on the lower end of the SEC totem pole. I'm

699
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: not going to sit here and wave the flag folks

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Speaker 2: to get raises, because if I do that, I'm going

701
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: to open my DMS and they're going to be thirty

702
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Speaker 2: seven coaches asking me to advocate for them. It's already

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Speaker 2: happened a few times without me talking about it. I

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Speaker 2: will just independently say this. Whatever the dollar amount is

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Speaker 2: that Shane Beemer's making right now, I think in very

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Speaker 2: short time he will be making more than the current

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Speaker 2: dollar figure he makes.

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Speaker 1: Have I been clear? I think I've been pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: So it's a good time to be a South Carolina fan.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of places that we want to get

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Speaker 2: to this spring. To visit South Carolina is definitely one

712
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Speaker 2: of them. I probably should arrange that with them before

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Speaker 2: I just say it out loud on air. Alright, a

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Speaker 2: couple of things that I want to hit on our

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Speaker 2: way out the door. I'm really enjoying this late Q

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Speaker 1: All right, Jesse, let's see it up.

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Speaker 2: We got two quick questions, nice compact, forty minute show tonight,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get out of here. The first question is

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Speaker 2: something that I kind of teased a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 2: First question here tonight, what's the fair market value for

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Speaker 2: Kirby Smart's contract. That's from Emery Dave. Interestingly enough, when

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Speaker 2: I was in Indianapolis for the National Championship game, I

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Speaker 2: had a conversation with someone sort of in the know

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Speaker 2: about these sorts of things. Now, the reason earlier that

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Speaker 2: I said I don't think coaching contracts on average have peaked.

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Speaker 2: I think those numbers are going to keep going up

739
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Speaker 2: is number one, because the money in this sport continues

740
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Speaker 2: to balloon. We haven't seen a crest there, so naturally,

741
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Speaker 2: I think you'll see a little correlation with the way

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Speaker 2: that coaching contracts trend. But they're also a more caveats,

743
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: and there are way more perks and benefits in contracts

744
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Speaker 2: today than there ever have been before. Now you pay

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Speaker 2: attention to the dollar figure in all likelihood, or maybe

746
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Speaker 2: you pay attention to the dollar figure and then the bonuses.

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Speaker 2: Here is what some of the coaches have gotten, very

748
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: very wise to Lincoln Riley pulled off a huge coup

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Speaker 2: when he signed with the USC That may have gone

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Speaker 2: under your radar or.

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Speaker 1: Over your radar, here's what Lincoln Riley did.

752
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Speaker 2: He's getting a whole lot of money, but what he

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Speaker 2: also got was unlimited use of the University private jet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you are fluent in

755
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Speaker 2: the language of private aviation, but that is worth millions

756
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: upon millions of dollars. Now that's not actual money on

757
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: a check that's handed to Lincoln Riley, but it's huge.

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Speaker 2: If I were Kirby Smart and I'm talking to my agent,

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Speaker 2: who is Jimmy Sexton, sure we're gonna get more money

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Speaker 2: out of Georgia. I deserve to be paid right in

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Speaker 2: the top five percent of this sport. Brother, if I've

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Speaker 2: got a cap on the hours that I currently get

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Speaker 2: on that university jet, and I have strong reason to

764
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Speaker 2: believe as at this moment Kirby Smart still does. You

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Speaker 2: can get affiliation with wheels up and net jets and

766
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Speaker 2: all that. Forget about having to go third party, you

767
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: go to that university and you say, here's what we're

768
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Speaker 2: gonna take. I'm gonna take a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: new raise in the form of a monetary figure that

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Speaker 2: you give me. I want that plane. That's what's important

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Speaker 2: to me. And I don't just want it from me.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley didn't just get that plane at USC for

773
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Speaker 2: him his family. Anytime they want it, they got it.

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Speaker 2: Kirby Smart, anytime my family and my extended family, an

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Speaker 2: extended extended family, and my cousin Jethrow down in Waycross.

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Speaker 1: Who I've never met.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've just heard rumors about anytime they want that jet,

778
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Speaker 2: We got that jet. That is what I would attack tomorrow,

779
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Speaker 2: maybe even later tonight if I were Kirby Smart. But

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Speaker 2: just in terms of dollar amounts, absolutely he's represented by

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Speaker 2: the right guy.

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Speaker 1: He knows good and wealth, what the school is.

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Speaker 2: You will see a revised contract in the not too

784
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Speaker 2: distant future for Kirby Smart, and he deserves every penny

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Speaker 2: of I mean, what is the monetary value of a

786
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: national championship in Georgia? Do I want to guess on

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Speaker 2: that there will be economic studies done in that state?

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Speaker 2: You can't do them right now because the impact is

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Speaker 2: still being felt. But I'm very excited for you to

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: see a couple of years from now because I saw

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Speaker 2: him do it at Bama the first time sab and

792
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: won a title there, and I remember the number was

793
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: just astronomical. And then I listened to a dean of

794
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: one of the departments from the actual college in Alabama,

795
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: and he was talking about what happened to admissions and

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00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: what happened to applications once Alabama won a national title.

797
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: You guys would have your mind totally boggled, which is

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: also now verb. If you understood the true financial impact

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Speaker 2: of winning a championship, it is outside this world astronomical.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on. Next question. Final question. This one caught

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Speaker 1: my eye.

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Speaker 2: This one's from Alec Alex said, is the ACC the

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Speaker 2: best conference for quarterback play in twenty twenty two? Hartman

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Speaker 2: van Deig, Brendan Armstrong, Keaten Slovas they are a strong

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Speaker 2: top four. I'm gonna answer this bluntly. I'm gonna round

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Speaker 2: off the R there, so I'm gonna answer this bluntly.

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: The ACC's got to prove it to me until further notice,

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00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: because we came in this past year. Do you know

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Speaker 2: that the ACC, I think the number was either twelve

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00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: or thirteen of fourteen programs had returning quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And think about what college football this year was.

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Speaker 2: If you just throw this out there from thirty thousand

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00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: feet and I were to tell you, you know, the

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Speaker 2: big programs are gonna be a little bit down this year.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's not gonna even play for a conference title.

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00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's preseason number one is not going to be remotely

817
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Speaker 2: what you think they're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be an open window. Now.

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Speaker 2: The team that eventually wins the national title is gonna

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Speaker 2: have a former walk on quarterback. They're gonna win using

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Speaker 2: an older school style. Alabama is going to, relatively speaking,

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Speaker 2: have one of their lower caliber playoff teams that Nick

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Speaker 2: Sabans had. And then I also told you the ACC

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Speaker 2: is gonna have thirteen or fourteen returning quarterbacks. She would

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Speaker 2: have thought, this is a golden opportunity for this conference

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Speaker 2: to rise to a level that many people didn't think

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Speaker 2: they were capable of for several years. And they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They didn't at all. There was nothing special about ACC

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Speaker 2: football this year. None of the programs that stood an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to take a step up, really took a step up.

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Speaker 2: Now Pitt did, Wake Forest did, but that didn't happen

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Speaker 2: on the playoff scale. That happened just off the periphery

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Speaker 2: kind of you had to use your peripheral vision to

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Speaker 2: see that. So I'm not saying it was a failure

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Speaker 2: on a front. So what I'm saying is, when I

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Speaker 2: tell you that kind of dynamic exists in a conference

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Speaker 2: in what is a relatively down year for mega powers

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Speaker 2: in college football, you would swear to yourself if not Clemson,

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Speaker 2: certainly North Carolina was Sam Howell's going to step up,

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00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: or or certainly any of a number of these programs.

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Speaker 2: You saw the names there, and the names were even

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00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: more impressive, and the list was even deeper this past year.

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00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: It just didn't happen. So you know, we can look

844
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Speaker 2: at that list, Tyler van dijk Keaten slow this year.

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Speaker 2: We can look at that list and we can say, oh,

846
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: those are nice names. Brendan Armstrong, that's nice names. Who's

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00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: taken over a game on that list? Maybe they're capable

848
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Speaker 2: of it, they haven't shown the propensity to do it yet,

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Speaker 2: So that's not an intimidating list to me, I don't

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Speaker 2: think that that alone tells me the ACC is going

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Speaker 2: to have the market cornered on quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: This coming year, just the way I see it. Sorry

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Speaker 1: if it upsets any of these feelings. Okay, a nice

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Speaker 1: succinct show tonight.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate Roger Goodell, you know, probably texted me a

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Speaker 2: couple of times tell me to wrap.

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Speaker 1: The show up.

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Speaker 2: The NFL kind enough to just sync this up right

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Speaker 2: with their halftime, and.

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Speaker 1: Now they've probably started the third quarter, so we're going

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Speaker 1: to get out of here. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: watching the show.

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Speaker 2: have a great start to your week.

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