WEBVTT - Conservatives’ Trans Obsession Just Got Weirder | MiniPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all, Welcome home. This is our weekly mini pod.

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<v Speaker 1>This week we were talking about Royce White, a former

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<v Speaker 1>NBA player who is recently declaring for the w NBA

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<v Speaker 1>to pull a stunt. So let's play the clip from

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<v Speaker 1>the stunt man himself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just having a blast in my feminine Eraror. I

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<v Speaker 3>never thought that I was a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always trusted the science, and I thought I was

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<v Speaker 3>a man my entire life. But you know, after further review,

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, look a strong look at my personal preferences,

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<v Speaker 3>it would appear that that I am indeed sometimes identifying

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<v Speaker 3>as a transgender woman. And I think it's only fair

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<v Speaker 3>I'd get a chance to play with with some of

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<v Speaker 3>my queens here in the twilight of my career, my

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<v Speaker 3>athletic prom It's just astounding that the w NBA can't

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<v Speaker 3>define the W in the in the UH. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think we're going through a very necessary conversation about who's

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<v Speaker 3>actually eligible to play in some of these professional sports leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess on on both sides of the gender spectrum.

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<v Speaker 3>But my goal is to help elevate the w n

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<v Speaker 3>B A. I think the ticket prices and the attendance,

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<v Speaker 3>uh you know, will soar. I think the audience, the

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<v Speaker 3>live audience will will increase, and I think ultimately it's

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<v Speaker 3>good for the game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to help evolve the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to point out as we get

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<v Speaker 1>into this that Royce White attended Iowa State.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a basketball player.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the statistics say something different. When he played for Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 1>It was he played three games and he he had

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes and he was point oh three from. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like basically zero percent from for field goals. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to find some additional statistics, but I'm hard p

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<v Speaker 1>used to understand what value add he would bring to

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<v Speaker 1>the w.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is this is a unique thing. First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>he's full of shit. That's first. Second, Royce Wright was

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<v Speaker 4>actually a very very good college basketball player who got

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<v Speaker 4>drafted sixteens ago. Yeah, he got drafted sixteenth, And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't make light of this, but I will with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Royce White's one of his biggest problems in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 4>You may not notice Angela, but he's afraid to fly.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I say afraid to fly, I mean like

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<v Speaker 4>paralyzing fear of flight. And so in Minnesota I was

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<v Speaker 4>just I said, well, you know, the one thing we

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<v Speaker 4>can do to races, make them, make them have to

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<v Speaker 4>fly to away games. He wouldn't be able to stick

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<v Speaker 4>around to w that's first second. I don't like this

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<v Speaker 4>transphobia politically oftentimes. I think that the right has made

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<v Speaker 4>a big issue. You saw the political ad last year

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<v Speaker 4>with Donald Trump. It was the best ad of the

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<v Speaker 4>psych to say, Kamala Harris Uh is for they them,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm for you, and it really just it was piercing

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<v Speaker 4>played on that transphobia. And so I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like that. I mean, we have so many young people

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<v Speaker 4>who find themselves the subject of that type of transphobia

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<v Speaker 4>and they're killing themselves and no one wants to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about that. But Royce White wants to play games like this,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just for me. It's just a huge he

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<v Speaker 4>and in his cancer, I'm sure we'll get to that

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>For them to.

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<v Speaker 4>For them to to play these type of games with

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<v Speaker 4>women that we both know and love and adore. Asia

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<v Speaker 4>Wilson would give both of them work, and they don't

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<v Speaker 4>need the last thing we need or to wash outs

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<v Speaker 4>from the NBA and the w talk about they gonna

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<v Speaker 4>sell tickets because they're not gonna sell more tickets than Caitlin.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not gonna stay more more more tickets than Asia

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<v Speaker 4>and Stewie and Fee and so I like how Kathy

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<v Speaker 4>and most of the people are just Kathy the Engelbert

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<v Speaker 4>being the commissioner. I like how they're just ignoring the noise.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm glad men are stepping up, some of their

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<v Speaker 4>former teammates, some of their former players and et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>calling out just the nonsense. And by the way, Royce

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<v Speaker 4>White's just the loser. I mean, he lost. He lost

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<v Speaker 4>his a Senate election of Michelle Tafoya. He got like

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<v Speaker 4>forty five thousand votes, ten percent of the of the

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<v Speaker 4>of the of the vote. So I just he's a

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<v Speaker 4>Loser's who's afraid to fly. He's a transphobe, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>just an unattracted person inside and out.

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<v Speaker 1>The inside and out. So let's go to his friend

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<v Speaker 1>from Turkey, because his friend from Turkey, he's also saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play in the WNBA.

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<v Speaker 5>Well official officiel. I just declared for the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>seven w B drafted in April.

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<v Speaker 4>Join me in this Joy.

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<v Speaker 5>Planners.

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<v Speaker 4>Cantur Freedom decided he's gonna throw his hat into.

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<v Speaker 6>The w WNBA does not ban men who identify as

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<v Speaker 6>women right now from playing in the league.

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<v Speaker 5>Would dominate the WNBA without adding an eyelighth The number.

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<v Speaker 4>One prospect in the history of them is a BNBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear what Asia got to say about this,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is like, this is absolutely ridiculous. My issue

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<v Speaker 1>here is, if we're honest, most of the American people

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<v Speaker 1>take like draw the line about men playing women's sports,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are two clearly, they're clearly men have identified

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<v Speaker 1>as men so much so that they played in a

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<v Speaker 1>professional men's league. And now they're trying to make a

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<v Speaker 1>political point, score political points with folks who are absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant to try to declare for the w n B

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<v Speaker 1>A and I just hope the commissioner enters, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>drafts the statement and let them know that there's no

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<v Speaker 1>room from them here. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't the only political stunt that's happening right now. They're

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<v Speaker 1>in my home state of Washington, there is something that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Somebody, that trans person was trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>admitted to a We've been talking about nude stuff a

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<v Speaker 1>lot on NLP, but there's a Korean SPA called Olympic SPA,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's run this story.

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<v Speaker 6>How would you feel about sharing the space?

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<v Speaker 2>I probably wouldn't share it.

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<v Speaker 6>At issue access to transgender women at an all nude

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<v Speaker 6>female spa in Lyndenwood and Tacoma, the SPA is long

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<v Speaker 6>standing policy. Transgender women are welcome, but not if they

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<v Speaker 6>are preoperative or have male anatomy.

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<v Speaker 5>We're asking the Supreme Court to review this case on

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<v Speaker 5>behalf of the Olympics SPA and to hold that a

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<v Speaker 5>SPA that has an all nude female clientele does not

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<v Speaker 5>have to allow a male into its nude sana area

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<v Speaker 5>simply because he identifies.

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<v Speaker 6>John Burrs with the Lines Defending Freedom and the Pacific

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<v Speaker 6>Justice Institute are both asking the High Court to hear

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<v Speaker 6>the case and uphold Olympus SPA's policy of excluding males

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<v Speaker 6>from its nude areas due to privacy and safety. A

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<v Speaker 6>transgender woman who declined to be interviewed for this story

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<v Speaker 6>reportedly called the spa in January of twenty twenty to

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<v Speaker 6>see if she would be admitted. She said she was

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<v Speaker 6>told the transgender women who had not undergone surgery would

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<v Speaker 6>not be admitted, meaning she would be denied entry. The

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<v Speaker 6>transwoman then filed a complaint with the Washington Human Rights Commission,

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<v Speaker 6>who ruled a transgender woman cannot be excluded from the

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<v Speaker 6>woman's facility merely because she is preoperative or has male anatomy.

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<v Speaker 6>Olympus SPA appealed that decision to the Ninth Circuit Court

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<v Speaker 6>of Appeals, where it was upheld.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what this reminds me of. You remember the

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<v Speaker 4>Indiana case with the gay wedding cake, and the Supreme

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<v Speaker 4>Court upheld the fact that they could deny an individual

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<v Speaker 4>anybody they so choose that was there, that was that

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<v Speaker 4>business's uh fundamental right, which kind of erode some of

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<v Speaker 4>the things that happened in the nineteen sixties with the

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<v Speaker 4>Civil Rights Acting, et cetera. But regardless, I think I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's different being why I go to Korean spats.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm just being back because you recently gave me

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<v Speaker 4>hell about being naked at a.

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<v Speaker 2>Restaurant that's going to city, that got walking around neck

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<v Speaker 2>and just just just you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest with you, I really don't. I normally

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<v Speaker 1>will wear a towel like into the steam rooms, into

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<v Speaker 1>the sauna space, and then I only take the towel

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<v Speaker 1>off when they're about to do the scrub and you

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<v Speaker 1>got to lay on that table and they do the scrub.

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<v Speaker 1>But my thing is, if I'm just being honest with y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this isn't going to go, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be truthful. If there is a penis walking

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<v Speaker 1>around in the women's space, I'm gonna be like, you

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<v Speaker 1>got me went to the wrong side, like you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that anybody like And then they shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to wear like a nameplate that's like I'm trans. So

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<v Speaker 1>what is the solve here? Like, I think that if

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<v Speaker 1>they're if they really want to make sure that folks

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable, then they should have a women's space, a

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<v Speaker 1>men's space, and like a trans space. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that gets when you're when you're talking about being

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<v Speaker 1>naked other people, I could see that causing because I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that nobody's gonna know like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's going through a process. And as as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to sound like a biggot if I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>by all means, maybe I should have tapped in my

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<v Speaker 1>lifeline my twin David John's to tell me the bigotry here.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just like, if I'm seeing a penis in

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<v Speaker 1>that area, I'm gonna be like you went to I would,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, especially how I am. I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm everybody's big sister. Parently like, oh, you know this

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<v Speaker 1>not the right side, right? Do you on the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>side because you don't expect to see.

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<v Speaker 4>That don't make sense to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that's the same as.

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<v Speaker 4>The wedding, Yeah, because it deals with a bit, because

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<v Speaker 4>it deals with the business's fundamental right to deny people

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<v Speaker 4>based upon sexuality.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's sexuality. It's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's gender identity. I think those are different things.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe actually maybe right about I don't I mean, can

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<v Speaker 4>I just say something.

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<v Speaker 2>That puts me like in a because here's an other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just you don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about your previous statement. Please, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what you're about to say, so let me not concur

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<v Speaker 4>on that. I don't know what the hell about to

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<v Speaker 4>come out of your mouth so anything going forward. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just simply saying I just I just don't care,

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't. I don't get the and I hear

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<v Speaker 4>your you gave me a different perspective because as a woman,

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<v Speaker 4>but transgender women, they don't want you, like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>really you don't know what they don't want. They don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not even the point. That's not the point.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not choose to go to like a new

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<v Speaker 1>beach with that's like, that's gender inclusive. I chose to

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<v Speaker 1>go someplace that we were like and again like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>tied up, but I'm thinking about, like there's older women

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and you don't want to cause hysteria, So like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the thing that you do to ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone feels comfortable when there is a their penis in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you're going through a process or a procedure

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<v Speaker 1>and you're you know, you're you know, transitioning, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to give some people some warning, provide

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<v Speaker 1>some disclosure. For example, let me just give this as

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<v Speaker 1>an example. When they have the all gender restrooms, people

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<v Speaker 1>can decide if they want to be in the all

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<v Speaker 1>gender restrooms. I'm not going because you guys pee on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. I don't want to. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go in that bathroom. So like, I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Find a very bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it, like, find me the time where

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<v Speaker 1>y'all pee all around the side in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet. So I'm just saying, why.

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<v Speaker 4>Monster?

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<v Speaker 2>No, So like, how is that monster?

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<v Speaker 4>That wasn't the joke? That was a joke. But no,

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<v Speaker 4>I hear you, Like, I just don't. I don't care

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<v Speaker 4>what people do in their private time. I don't really

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<v Speaker 4>care about people's private No. I think the sol is

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<v Speaker 4>based upon what you said. The solve is simply allowing

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<v Speaker 4>this business to ban transgender women. Because if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Suggesting allow people to opt in, I allow them to

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<v Speaker 1>opt in like either having.

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<v Speaker 4>They are simply saying that business is saying that we

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<v Speaker 4>want to have an all woman nude spot period. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't like the restaurant in Miami. This is like

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<v Speaker 4>they want to all women nude spot. They're not saying

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<v Speaker 4>they want to, But.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who identify as women who don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the parts. And I think what I'm saying is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna allow for people who have different parts, which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's all kinds of reasons why that's the

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<v Speaker 1>case that needs to be disclosed to the other women

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<v Speaker 1>that frequent that spot and the spot, and they can

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<v Speaker 1>choose if they want to be in that facility.

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<v Speaker 4>We need somebody I talk about this because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if I feel like I don't have the I don't,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm pretty self aware.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm telling you what I would what I would

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<v Speaker 1>be comfortable with. I'm barely I barely want to rock

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<v Speaker 1>around naked around these other broads.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely, I don't like I have the towel until

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<v Speaker 1>I go lay on the table.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear you, I hear you. I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I wouldn't even see it.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, I might not even say so.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so for you. This isn't the same as

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<v Speaker 4>Zenus cancer and Royce White. This is this is a

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<v Speaker 4>real issue. This isn't this isn't people playing games, This

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<v Speaker 4>isn't a political ploy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually an And this is the other thing, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a real issue either.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is because it's one person.

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<v Speaker 1>In the w NBA, one person, one no, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also no transgender people make up one percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States demographic thirteen and older, and I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>it should not be that hard for us to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to make one percent of people more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Not political fodder, not all this back and forth, like

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<v Speaker 1>what can we do to folks who had.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of what what we need to do is make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that we are while we're discussing accommodations, make sure

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<v Speaker 4>we're protecting these people. I do want to show this

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<v Speaker 4>one little, one little statement from Robin Lopez. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to Robin Lopez. And while Nick is putting up

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<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, yeah, while Nick is putting this up, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to be extremely clear that oh oh there, it

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<v Speaker 4>is biggest issue. So Robert, Robert Griffith, the Third Lord

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<v Speaker 4>Have Mercy made a tweet. I just can't stand that, man.

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<v Speaker 4>But the biggest issu if you're being drafted, people are saying,

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<v Speaker 4>we want you around for four years, and I can't

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<v Speaker 4>imagine anybody wants Enis Canta l Royce Wright, Royce White

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<v Speaker 4>around them for even four minutes. We've seen this illustrated.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever Enis is near Turkey, ol Royce comes close to

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<v Speaker 4>logic reality and then Royce White was fonded Lol joined

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<v Speaker 4>the club. Robin, I'll slap your big goofy ass bitch,

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<v Speaker 4>slap you like Poodi tang Oh, I will fight over

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<v Speaker 4>these trans rights. And then Robin Lopez from the type

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<v Speaker 4>from the top rope. Yes, we get it. You love

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<v Speaker 4>slapping people with women's names. And so for those individuals

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<v Speaker 4>who do not know the Senate candidate Royce White, and

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make sure that I'm reading this correctly

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm not trying to get sued. A judge recently

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<v Speaker 4>issued a fifty year that fifty year no contact order

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<v Speaker 4>protecting his ex wife, alongside with a two year restriction

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<v Speaker 4>protecting their teenage son following credible findings of physical abuse, threats,

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<v Speaker 4>and intimidation. Oh what I would like to say, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>this is how we end the show is to Royce White.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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