1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's just you. I 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: am all in again with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to I Am all in Again. This is 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Susanne French. I am not Scott Patterson. As you can tell, 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: Scott has been a little under the weather unfortunately and 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: lost his voice, so doesn't really, you know, lend itself 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: to recording a podcast. But he's on the mend and 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: he will be back on the air soon. So today 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: we will be recapping season three episode eleven. I solemnly 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: swear this episode aired on January twenty first, two thousand 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: and three, and our guest today is Ernie Halter, who 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: actually appeared in a background role in the season one 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: Christmas episode Forgiveness and stuff, and we'll talk more about 14 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: that in a little bit, but first I want to 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: give you some more information about Ernie. So, Ernie Halter 16 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: is a singer songwriter who has been writing songs for 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: more than twenty years and has shared the studio and 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: stage with Jason Moraz, lady A, Neil Young, Justin Bieber, 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: and Katie Perry, just to name a few. That's an 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: impressive list in and of itself. Ernie is an independent 21 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: music artist who is a regular at Hotel Cafe in 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, along with various venues nationwide, and he's got 23 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: an upcoming show in March at the Hotel Cafe in 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, for any of you're welcome. Thank you very much 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited to be here. 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous, you know, I'm always nervous too, 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: and like I you know, I do not do this professionally, 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: So even though I've been on the podcast for a 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 3: while now, I still there's a little bit of jitters 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: every time I jump on. 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: So well, you're very much the expert and I am 33 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: the novice. So I'm just I'm here hoping to not 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: embarrass my daughters or my wife because they are super 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: fans and they will die if I say anything that 36 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: embarrasses them. 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, so I was gonna say, I know that 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: you know, you you've only done the one episode and 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: and you know haven't followed the whole show, but you 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: have Gilmore fans in the family that I'm sure will 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: will you know, call you out if you make even 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: the slightest mistake. 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: They will. They will definitely call me out. And I've seen. 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: You know, I've seen episodes here and there. I get 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: the general story arc and then I actually never saw 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: the episode that I was in. Really, I saw the 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: full one. Yeah, or if I did, it was so 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: long ago. But I watched it and uh, yeah, it's 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: a really well made show. And it's uh They're always 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: trying to get me to watch it with them, and 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm usually, you know, busy doing something else, but I do. 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: I said, I sit and watch it with them. I 53 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: just don't have like enough of the because they've watched 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: it several times now, so see the I see the 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: episodes out of order, and then they'll come over and 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: let me know who's who and what's what. So it's fun. 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So you kind of came to our attention 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: because you had a video that went viral on Instagram 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: a little bit ago about how you you make a 60 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: whopping forty seven says a year for your appearance. So 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: you were a bell ringer in the scene where there's 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: a bell choir on the steps of the gazebo. Yes, 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: And so I was looking at that post last night 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: and I saw in the comments that you mentioned that 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: was actually that was considered a musical appear like it 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: wasn't an acting gig. It was amazing. 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: So the there's something called music sidelining, and I used 68 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: to do a lot of it. I don't live in 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: La anymore, but when I live there, I did a 70 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: ton of it. So this video that I made was 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: one of several in kind of like a series that 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I was doing about, you know, just getting these like 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: residual checks and it's all good fun. I don't know 74 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: if it was exactly forty seven cents. Nothing on the 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: internet is real, but I. 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Think that's more than the actors get from the streaming, 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: so it's better than that. 78 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a crazy business. So I'm grateful for my 79 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: you know, fourth of a gallon of gas that I 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: get on every quarter. But yeah, so we I was 81 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: in a choir. I was in a carolling group and 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: one of the things that we learned to do is 83 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: play bells. I've never done it before, I'd never done 84 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: it since. And the one of the people that was 85 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: in it, her name is Christa and she was my 86 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: roommate's girlfriend now wife. She worked with the head contractor 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: at I think it was Paramount. Wait, no, no, it 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: was Warner Brothers. Yeah, he was shot on the Warner lot. Yeah, 89 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: so he would coordinate as a go between to find 90 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: musicians for certain things. And so if you know Warner 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: or the production company says, okay, we need a band 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: for this scene. They don't hire extras. They don't hire 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: actors because they can't. It's a union thing. So they 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: go through the Musicians Union and they would which I 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: was a member of still am and so they would 96 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: find musicians. And the irony is, most of the time 97 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: we're not playing, we're just miming. And because they don't 98 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: want it to interfere with dialogue, this particular scene we 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: actually were playing. Cool, we had to have it. So 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I would get a residual. I'm pretty 101 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: sure you would never get a residual as an extra 102 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: or background actor unless you had a role or line 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: or something, and even then probably not. But as a musician, 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: because our playing or performance was recorded, I still do 105 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: get a residual for that. 106 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: So that's very cool. 107 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So no diss against background actors or any actors, 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely its own thing. It's there, it's 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: a music. 110 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that's very cool. And then you kind of answered 111 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: my my other question, which was was this a pre 112 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: existing group that you were in that they brought all 113 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: of you in or did they just like assemble a 114 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: bunch of random people and be like, here ring this, 115 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: pretend you're ringing this. 116 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: Well right, sometimes it's like you actually knew how to 117 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: do yeah, and Bill, yeah, I remember, you know, just 118 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: trying to pick up side gigs and it was the 119 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: episode was shot. It was shot on a Halloween. I 120 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: remember that. Oh really Okay, Yeah, there's a lot of 121 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: the crew and stuff. They were in costumes. It was 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: a weird thing because the set is Christmas y and 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: there's like fake snow on the ground, and it's such 124 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: a gorgeous backlot. Like it's just amazing. 125 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: Uh yeah to have. 126 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Seen it, because you know, so many films were film there. 127 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: I think To Kill a Mockingbird was filmed there, and 128 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: Back to the Future like it's a really famous man. Yeah, 129 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: So I was like, well, it was so cool, Like 130 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: that is really close to Central Perk Cafe from Friends. 131 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: It's on the it's near the New York part of 132 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the back lot and Warner and it's just neat. Yeah. 133 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw on Social media. But 134 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: Warner Brothers just had they just finished a three week 135 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: run of Holidays Made Here where they completely recreated Stars 136 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: Hollow on the back pod and it was open for 137 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: tours so the public could come be in Stars Hollow 138 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: and they even like built out some of the old 139 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: sets in the building, so like Luke's diner was there. 140 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: You know, you could go in Laurelized house and Sukie's 141 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: house and the you know, the theater like it was. 142 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: It was a completely immersive Stars Hollow experience and it 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: was really amazing. I went on many of the days 144 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: that it was open and it just was mind blowing, 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: Like you literally felt like you were there. 146 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: So I was a fan of the show, I'm sure 147 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: like it's just so feel like you're walking through a 148 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: dream to see it. 149 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was crazy and to think like 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: like you think of you know, especially for me as 151 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: a super fan, you might not have the same experience, 152 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: but I could think of like my favorite scenes and think, Okay, 153 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: this was this was where Luke and Laurel I had 154 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: this conversation and they were standing right there, and you know, 155 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: this is where Paris ran down the street looking for 156 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 2: change for the pay phone like, it was really cool 157 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: to just be in those exact places for me as 158 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: a fan. 159 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: So do you then watch the show differently having seen 160 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: it in person? 161 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: I do. I do because I especially because I was 162 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: there with Scott on a lot of the days and 163 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: helping like take photos with fans and things like that. 164 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: And so now I spent so many hours in Luke's 165 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: diner over the past three weeks that now I watched 166 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: this episode back and I'm like, oh, I know like 167 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: every inch of that place now because I spent so 168 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: many hours standing there, and it's really cool to think, 169 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: you know, hey, we walked through the gazebo, we walk 170 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: down that sidewalk, or that's you know, we ate at 171 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: that place, and so it is kind of it is 172 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: really surreal to like experience it in real life and 173 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: then to see it on TV. 174 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Is it kind of well? I mean, at least with 175 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, the set is more aligned with reality in 176 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: the sense that there's an outdoor. There's like, because my 177 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: daughters were asking me this, he said, is this on 178 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: a like a sound They didn't use the word soundstage, 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: but you know, is this in a sound stage? And 180 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: then they fake it and they recreate it. It's like no, 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: it's like there actually is a gazebo and there's a courtyard, 182 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: and there are buildings, and the sets are the buildings. 183 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: So it's all this one continuous like indoor outdoor saying. 184 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work where it's on a 185 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: sound stage and it looks very realistic when you watch 186 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: it later, but it's all just you know, TV magic. 187 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: But this is cool because it's like an actual it 188 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: feels like you're in a little town, you know. It's 189 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: really cool exactly. 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: And some of the interiors were on sound stages and 191 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: so those sets are obviously long gone, but a lot 192 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: of it they did use the actual, you know, the 193 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: practical sets that were in in the in the back lot. 194 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just it's really cool that, you know, 195 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff is still there. So it's 196 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: it's very cool. 197 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: I used to I was, I was doing this for 198 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: a while back in the day, and my brother he 199 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: would see me on some of these shows in the background, 200 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: and he said, I was ruining. I was ruining these 201 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: shows for him because it would break the fourth wall 202 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: to see his brother. Yeah, you know, like in a 203 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: band or something in the background told me to stop it. 204 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I would imagine you just gained that 205 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: much more of an appreciation for the show, having gotten 206 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: to know some of the people that are involved in 207 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: making it. 208 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it's it is. You know, the show 209 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: kind of came I did not watch it when it aired, 210 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: so I first watched it in twenty sixteen, and it 211 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: kind of came into my life at a point where 212 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: I just really needed like a mental escape and just 213 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: to kind of lift myself out of my existence and 214 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: just be somewhere else for a while. So it like 215 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: really a lot of people talk about how it's their 216 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: comfort show, like it just is like warm, like a warm, 217 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: fuzzy blanket, and it was like that for me too, 218 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: So I have I'm grateful for that because I needed 219 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: that in my life at that time and I have 220 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: that appreciation for it. And so to get to know 221 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: some of the people that were involved in the actual 222 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: creation of that, you know, like Scott and some of 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: the other people that I've met through this, it's it's 224 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: really cool to be able to you know, interact with 225 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: them as actors and be like, you know, thank you 226 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: for doing that, because it really makes a difference for 227 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: so many people, and even now, like there's new generations 228 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: that come into it, and a lot of the fans 229 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: that watch it now weren't even on the planet when 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: it originally aired. 231 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: But my daughters are fourteen and they weren't. 232 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, and it's like something good for them too, 233 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: So it's really it's turned into quite a phenomenon. 234 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny as like, even though it's different, 235 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: it's similar. I'm not, you know, as famous as kimmor Girls, obviously, 236 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: but the best compliment and artists can have is someone 237 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: coming up to you and saying, this song really got 238 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: me out of a dark place, or this was my 239 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: comfort when I really didn't have anything to lean on. 240 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: And I bet that's equally special for the people who've 241 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: worked on the show to know that their work is 242 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: meaningful because it's you know, it can be easy to dismiss, 243 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Oh well, it's just a show. It's a comfort thing. 244 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: It's not like but it brings people. It lifts people up, 245 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: and you never know what someone's going through someone who's 246 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: watching that show and gives something to look forward to 247 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: and something to distract them maybe from what else is 248 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: happening in their lives. So I think it's really cool. 249 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially because the show has only gotten more 250 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: popular as it's gone on. So probably at the time 251 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: they were making the show, none of them were even thinking, Okay, 252 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: twenty five years from now, we're still going to be 253 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: celebrating this and it's going to have any bigger fan base, 254 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, because at the time when it first when 255 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: the show first went on the air, I think the 256 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: first season it was on against Friends, so like, how 257 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: do you compete against friends? Like obviously they did, they 258 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: got you know, through that first season, and then the 259 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: network moved their time slot. But it was it wasn't 260 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: even at the time it was airing, it wasn't as 261 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: popular as it is now, and it's you know, one 262 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: of the most replayed shows on Netflix now, if not 263 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: the most. And so it's just interesting how it's really 264 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: just mushroomed from what it was, you know, back in 265 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: the early two thousands. 266 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: I was really surprised in the video that I made, 267 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: just like any video I guess anyone makes. You just 268 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: don't really think anything's going to happen. You're just doing 269 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: silly things too, Yeah, just because you just want to 270 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: share them. But I was really shocked at how much 271 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: of a response that got, and it showed me how 272 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: incredibly popular the show still is and how it's become 273 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: like what's the word I'm looking for, But it's become 274 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: part of the zeitgeist. I guess it's become part of 275 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: the cultural experience, and it's continuing to be that. My 276 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: daughter is like, you know, they they have just started 277 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: watching it, and they've already they're already on their second or 278 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: maybe even third run through of this show. So this 279 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: is the only set of cool points I've ever gotten. 280 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: I think I've done some pretty cool things. They are 281 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: very unimpressed. This was the one thing that got them. 282 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: They were like what they started watching the show for 283 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the first time, and I was like, oh, I was 284 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: like in an episode of that. They're like, what, how 285 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: do we not know this about you? It's like I 286 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: tell you stuff like this all the time, and you 287 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: roll your eyes and your care we never heard of 288 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: that and who cares? Dad? This one? This one got them. 289 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: They were like whoa. 290 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: And they've probably told all their friends too, because all 291 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: their friends. 292 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: Are oh yeah, Like I was like, oh, well, because 293 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't really think about it. I'm like, oh, that's right. People, 294 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: people really still love this show. And yeah, because there's 295 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: lots of things I've done that they don't know, they 296 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: have no relation or relevance to in their life, so 297 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: it's just kind of, oh wait, whatever, But this one 298 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: got them. They were really excited. They're still they're still 299 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: really excited. 300 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: They probably would have been even more excited if Scott 301 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: had actually been on the call this morning. 302 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's understandable. It's funny, like they're very, uh, 303 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: they can hang. Like if I've ever put them in 304 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: a situation where they're around people that are well known, 305 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: they are just very you know, just like whatever. 306 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: Inside yeah, inside or die, you know. 307 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: But on the outside there they can hang. They're very 308 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: they're very chill. I mean, when it comes down to it, 309 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: we're all just people trying to, you know, have we 310 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: all have our ups and downs. We are and so 311 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: I think that's an important lesson for them. So do 312 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: you always host with Scott? 313 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: I you know, I do not. So this the podcast 314 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: is on its second go round. So the first time 315 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: we watched the show, it was a bunch of us 316 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: in a group and we would all recap together and 317 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: I joined. I can't even remember when it was. It 318 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: was like season I think we were recapping season four maybe, 319 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: but Danielle Romo, one of the regulars, had gone on 320 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: maternity leave, and so they brought me in to fill 321 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: in for her, and then kept me on even when 322 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: she came back from maternity leave, just to kind of 323 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: provide that voice of the super fan. And so now 324 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: in our second run through the show, it's we have 325 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: like smaller podcasts. So Scott will do a recap, which 326 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: is what this is, and then I actually work with 327 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: with one of the other producers on a different pod, 328 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: so we call it town meeting, which is where we 329 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 2: kind of pick apart the small details of the show. 330 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: So this is where we'd be like, hey, did you 331 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: see that? You know the cameraman. You can see him 332 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: in the reflection in the mirror in this episode, so 333 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: kind of those little little things like that. And then 334 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: we have other like pop culture and fashion and music. 335 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: So it's a series of kind of sub podcasts, if 336 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: you will. So I don't get to recap with Scott 337 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: as much as as I did when we went through 338 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: it the first time, but sometimes I will pop in 339 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: here and there. 340 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: So I did notice one thing when I and I 341 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: don't normally see these kinds of details, but I watched 342 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: the episode that I was in, and there's a scene 343 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: where Laurelia's dad, he gets a heart attack and he's 344 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: in the hospital, and so it's Luke and Lorelei talking 345 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: in the hallway, and there's one moment where you can 346 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: see the microphone hanging out, like yep, that's a boom mic. 347 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I never see those kinds of things, like, Okay, that's 348 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: probably the kind of of stuff that you're looking for 349 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: a little like details. Yeah, exactly, Oh the clock said 350 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: one o'clock, but now all of a sudden it says 351 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: three o'clock. Or you know, she had hearings but she 352 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: doesn't any more. 353 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: And exactly exactly. 354 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: A great continuity person if you're familiar with that. 355 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I've been told I should be, that 356 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: I should be a script supervisor. So maybe you know, 357 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: in my in my next career. But but yeah, that 358 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: that's when we've noticed in that episode. Also in that 359 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: same episode where before they go to the hospital, when 360 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: they're in the diner and she gets the phone call 361 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: that her dad's in the hospital, it goes back and forth. 362 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes her purse is on her arm and sometimes it's 363 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: on the her. So there's the first season, there were 364 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: a lot of those little a lot of those little 365 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: moments that that we could catch. 366 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: So and maybe some of the followers of this podcast 367 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: know this, but for anyone who and I didn't know 368 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: this before I started working on set, but there's a 369 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: specific person who then keeps track of all the little details. 370 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very easy to miss some, So I 371 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: would never fault anyone for this, But you know, if 372 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the hair is tucked behind the ear or not, or 373 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: because they'll film multiple takes, sometimes we'll have to go 374 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: back and go, oh, we didn't get this thing, or 375 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: we didn't get this angle, and they have to recreate 376 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: it exactly the way they did on that day, same wardrobe, 377 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: same hair, same lighting, same everything, and if it looks 378 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: even a little different, down to the clock on the 379 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: wall or whatever, this salt shaker was over here and 380 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: now it's over here. So sometimes those things like jump 381 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: around and you'd be really good at cashier's. 382 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: I would, because I just I can't help, but I 383 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: just notice all those little things nice. So I guess 384 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: at some point, we do have to talk about the 385 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: episode Season three, episode eleven. I solemnly swear I don't 386 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: think I've read the synopsis yet, so let me We 387 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: usually do that at the top, let me do that 388 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: right now. So this is the episode where Emily asks 389 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: Lorelai for a favor in a lawsuit but is displeased 390 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: with the results. Meanwhile, Suki runs into an old friend 391 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: from her past, while laurel I meets someone new, and 392 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: friendships are put to the test at Chilton when Rory 393 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: accidentally makes a wrong move. So this episode was directed 394 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: by Carla McCloskey and written by John Stevens. So we 395 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: know you haven't seen the whole you know, arc of 396 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: all of these stories, but what was your what was 397 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: your first impression of this episode? What did you think 398 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: of it? 399 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: So I actually, as I was watching, and I realized, oh, 400 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: I've kind of seen this before. So, like I said, 401 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: I see it in bits and pieces. I never seen 402 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: the whole episode, but I saw the fencing scene and 403 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I know that's like really popular, you remember that, And 404 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: I let's see what were my thoughts on the episode. 405 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: I think that Laurelai's mother is basically my mother, my 406 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: mother had a cube accent. That was pretty much the 407 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: only difference there. Very similar temperament and dynamic. It is 408 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: probably why that those characters are so relatable. Let's see, 409 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: I do remember seeing the part where is it Suki right, 410 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: and Jackson is her husband. He uh, he's cooking. She 411 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: she cooks some dinner and puts CCR on the radio 412 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: and all his favorite things, and he goes, you cheated 413 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: on me because I just flirted. I over flirted, and 414 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: so that like it was funny how he just put 415 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: those pieces together, and she felt guilty and she did 416 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: all those things you're ruining CCR for me. Those were 417 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: things I remember. I remember, like the guy who I 418 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: can't remember his name now, of course, but the one 419 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: who is Sukie's friend who she over flirts with, the 420 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: friend of right right, and he calls Loralai and asks 421 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: her on a date. But he says, yeah, I just 422 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't like that. I could I couldn't get your numbers. 423 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: So I called the hotel and some French guy gave 424 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: me your number at home and said not to worry 425 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: that you usually stay up till three or four in 426 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: the morning. And she says, oh, that's fine. Don't worry 427 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: about him. He's getting fired tomorrow. So yeah, it's funny, 428 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: it's a cute, it's a really cute show. I mean, 429 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel embarrassed that I don't know 430 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: anything about Gilmer Girls, and I'm on, you know, I was. 431 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: I was calling it the Gilmore Girls in my posts 432 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: and I got I got reprimanded pretty pretty swiftly. It's 433 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: not the Gilmore Girls. It's guilt. You can drop the 434 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: come on. Yeah, so I'm getting indoctrinated very quickly. But yeah, 435 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: it was. It's interesting, like it moves very quickly. It 436 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: almost feels like a soap in some ways, not to 437 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: degrade the quality of it, but there's all these vignettes 438 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: and things that are happening at once, and so in 439 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: that sense, there's probably a word for this. I don't 440 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called, but how the action 441 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: is constantly moving from different characters of different scenes and 442 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: then sort of intertwining. But how just a quick at moves. 443 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's isn't It's funny, it's romantic, it's 444 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: character driven, and in that sense, it's it's way bigger 445 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: than a soap. Opera, but it still has that element 446 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: of drama that a soap might have, and so I 447 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: could see why that is such a popular. 448 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is the show that the 449 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: word dramaedy is made for. Like, yeah, this episode has 450 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: a lot of relationship drama. There's like mother daughter drama, 451 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: there's husband wife drama, there's friendship at school drama. But 452 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: then like Lorelei shoots out these one liners all the 453 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: time that are just freaking hilarious, and sometimes you have 454 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: you don't even get them the first time you have 455 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: You don't even hear them until like the second or 456 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: the third time you watch the episode. So so yeah, it's, uh, 457 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: the it is kind of soap opera ish in that sense, 458 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: but it's also like just really funny, and you know, 459 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: there's just like some offbeat moments or like you'll see 460 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: some some heard something in the background that somebody is 461 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: doing and it just it makes you laugh. 462 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: So I wonder how much of that was scripted. I'm 463 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: sure a lot of it is, but you know how 464 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: much of that is just sort of improvised in the moment. 465 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: So Amy Sherman Palladino was She was the creator and 466 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: the writer and the showrunner. She is infamous for not 467 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: allowing ad libbing at all. Like it had to be 468 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: word perfect, even down to things like saying I am 469 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: instead of i'm. Like, it had to be exactly the wild, 470 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: so there was not a lot of room for you know, 471 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: improvisation or you know changes on the fly like that. 472 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: But honestly, you a lot of the time you can't 473 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: even tell, like it just feels so natural, the dialogue 474 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: and the interactions. It just that it just speaks to 475 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: how well written it it is. 476 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: That's the mark of genius is when you don't think 477 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: about the script, the you don't think about the acting, 478 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: it all sort of disappears and you become absorbed in 479 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: the story. Now, I don't know, this is a sort 480 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: of general question, but my daughter said that the actors 481 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: had to do specific training to say the words, to 482 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: be able to like speak speak faster. Is that true? 483 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: That is true. They had to talk so fast that 484 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: they had a dialogue coach George Bell on set, and 485 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: especially working with the guest actors, because the principals got 486 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: the hang of it, but the guest actors would have 487 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: trouble like speaking at the right speed, and so he'd 488 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: be like faster, faster, faster, so he would he would 489 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: work with everybody to make sure that they could articulate 490 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: the lines, you know, so you could hear what they 491 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: were saying, but also super fast, right. 492 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: And editing is really tight too. It's a certain style 493 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: where there's there's really no dead space unless there is, 494 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: and there is. It's very intentional. Yes, that's something that 495 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: I noticed even before watching these episodes, just how quickly, 496 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: because you know, just for my own artist stuff, I'll 497 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: make videos where I'm talking or saying something, and it 498 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: takes a lot of intention to know what you're going 499 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: to say, say what you need to get in, get out, 500 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: and then edit it in a way that doesn't leave 501 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: any dead space at all. And this is years before 502 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, like TikTok or like algorithmic social media where 503 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: everything every second counts. But it's almost like every episode, 504 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: any any given scene of an episode is cut in 505 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: the way that every single second counts and matters. Yeah, 506 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: I thought that that was a takeaway. But anyways, you 507 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: were talking about something and I think I cut you off, 508 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: and I hope I didn't know. 509 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: I think I finished my thoughts. I think I'm good, 510 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: let's see, I'm just looking through. We usually recap the 511 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: episodes by theme rather than by sequentially going through the scenes, 512 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: so that we had a couple of storylines. One is 513 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: Emily getting sued for wrongful term nation. So since you've 514 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: seen episodes here and there, you know Emily is very 515 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: particular about what she wants, and she even goes into 516 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: it in this episode, like I pay for things to 517 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: be this way, and I want them to be this way. 518 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: But Laura I ended up hurting Emily. I don't I 519 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: don't think she meant to. I don't know. Do you 520 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: think that Lurla I was like deliberately trying to sabotage Emily. 521 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: No, she just said, I'm not going to lie for you. Yeah, 522 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: and then her mom says, well just tell it, just 523 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: tell the you know in the deposition, to say that 524 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: say some good things about me. She's like, I'm not 525 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna lie. So I think she was trying to be honest. 526 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 527 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't think she was going out of her way 528 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: to do her mom any favors. But I don't think 529 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: she was going out of her way to hurt her either. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 530 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: look at me. I'm talking about Gilbert girls and I 531 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: can do it. 532 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Lorelei and Suki. They go to 533 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: that that weird seminar with the boring guy right, and 534 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 2: then they run into Suki's friend and his friend out 535 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: in the hallway at the At the beginning of the episode, 536 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: we saw Suki and Jackson fighting about. 537 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: The lentils and. 538 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: The atomic p tendrils or something like that. So who 539 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: did you like Suki with better? Did you like her 540 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: with Jackson or did you like her potentially with Joe. 541 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: No, I think, I mean I didn't. I wasn't I 542 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: see her with Jackson. I mean again, I haven't seen 543 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: the whole arc of the show, but like what I 544 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: have seen of them, they kind of have their moments 545 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: where they're you know, even in that scene they're arguing 546 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: about vegetables or whatever, and then he kissed her at 547 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: the end and says, I'll see you tonight. You know, 548 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: it's just part of their dynamic, and I think it's 549 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: very it's very real, you know, especially when you really 550 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: love someone, you you can lay into them a little bit. 551 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: And obviously it wasn't really an option for her to 552 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: be with the other guy. She's already Jackson. 553 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Suki and Jackson is an interesting relationship. 554 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: They feel like they're very well suited for each other, 555 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: and they compliment each other in a lot of ways. 556 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: There's some things that I don't know. There's some things 557 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: about Jackson that aren't so great, and I'm not going 558 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: to spoil the surprise for you, so you need to 559 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: go watch the whole show now so you can see. 560 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: But I think overall, Suki and Jackson they're a very 561 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: cute couple, and I think that they do they do 562 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: belong together for sure. 563 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, seeing that snapshot, that's how it feels to me, 564 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: So hopefully I will see how I feel if I 565 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: watch more of the episodes, find out about his dark 566 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: past or something. 567 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it comes later in the series. There's some things, 568 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: but okay, and now the Chiltern Student Council thing, the 569 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: whole Franny Francy, sorry, and Rory. It is very all. 570 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: The garage scene was just visually right out of All 571 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: the President's. 572 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Men, right, which I watched as part of my homework. 573 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: I've actually not seen that entire movie. I've watched that scene, 574 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: but I haven't I haven't seen the entire movie. But 575 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: so Francie, you know, she's kind of a problem through 576 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: the whole thing. I mean, she's not the whole thing 577 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: that she's only in a couple episodes, but she basically 578 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: stabs Rory in the back because we find out that 579 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: that whole garage scene was a setup, so get the 580 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: pictures and then turn around and betray Rory to Paris. 581 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: So what did you. 582 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: Think about this rivalry? And I'm curious to know, like 583 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: your thoughts on Paris because Paris is an interesting character 584 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: and she can be a little polarizing. People either love 585 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: her or hate her. 586 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: To me, she seemed like high strung m a type. 587 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, she's complained about the food and the cafeteria, 588 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: but she does it in a way that still feels 589 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: relatable to me, even though I don't know, Like I 590 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: would be the guy that is going on about the 591 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: label size, and you know, my wife would be the 592 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: one to be like, please don't say anything, please don't 593 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't you know. But I try to 594 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: do it like in a nice way, whereas I feel 595 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: like Emily is Emily is Lorealiz's mom. Yes, she if 596 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: she were doing it, she would be doing it in 597 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: a more aggressive, like less relatable way. In my opinion, 598 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say anything like too black or white, 599 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: because I think the characters are bigger than just small definitions, 600 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: and I don't want to I don't want to anger 601 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: any Gilmore Girl fans. So yeah, to me, I don't know, 602 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: she seemed high strong, but she seemed like she cared. 603 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, she said, hey, you're my friend, and I 604 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: confide it in you, and you broke my trust, and 605 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: she seemed genuinely hurt. And yeah, she's a little high strong, 606 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: but you know, she's a little bit of a lot. 607 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of a lot sometimes, so I relate 608 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, I don't know, I think she's all right. 609 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: And and that scene that was really a kind of 610 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: a turning point for Rory and Paris as friends, because 611 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: from the beginning of season one up to this point, 612 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: Paris is she's very she's caustic and abrasive and mean, 613 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: and she and Rory she saw Rory only as competition, 614 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: and so she was constantly trying to take Rory down. 615 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: And then in this episode was where we find out 616 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: that she thought of Rory as her best friend, and 617 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: Rory even expressed surprise, like I didn't know she thought 618 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: of me as her best friend, so that it was 619 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: kind of like where that that little chink in the 620 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: armor that we haven't seen before. This was this episode 621 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: is where we start to see that, and then they do. 622 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: They always kind of have like a rivalry, but it 623 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: becomes more more of a friendly rivalry as the seasons 624 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: go on, and so this is kind of where that 625 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: turning point starts. So I like that, and I love Paris. 626 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: I probably would not love her if I knew her 627 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: in real life because she is just really abusive, but 628 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: I just I love the character and I love that 629 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: she says what she thinks because there's sometimes that I 630 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: wish I didn't have to be so polite and I 631 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: could really say. 632 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: That on my mind, you want to channel Paris right. 633 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, because there's a little bit of Paris in 634 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: there and sometimes I wish I could let her out. 635 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I love I love that character. But 636 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, she's a terrible person, but she's a great kid. 637 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: I feel the same way about Emily too. Emily is. 638 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm glad that she's not somebody I know in real life. 639 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, some people are just kind of exhausting in 640 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: real life. But then there's a part of your respects 641 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: or like admires their boldness and. 642 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: Right exactly, so just like a little bit of it, 643 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: not all of it exactly. So then the closing scenes 644 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 2: we kind of touched on one already where Suki makes 645 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: the nice dinner because she's he feels she feels like 646 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: she cheated, and so she makes this huge dinner and 647 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: she puts on you know, credence, and then Jackson immediately like, 648 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: you cheated on me. I thought that was hilarious that 649 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: he was great to jump right to that conclusion. And 650 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: then the very final scene is Alex calls Laura, I 651 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: asks her out on the coffee date. So yeah, so 652 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: that was that was fun. Billy Burke before, you know, 653 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: he really hit it big in the Twilight series, so. 654 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: I have not seen Twilight. 655 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays the dad in Twilight, but this it 656 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: was after this, so he was still like he had 657 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: done some stuff, but he was still, you know, not 658 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: super well known. So it was fun to see him 659 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: in that role. 660 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: And side note, the nurse in uh the episode that 661 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: I was in, I didn't realize of course, I can't 662 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: think her name at this moment. Thank you. Yeah, I 663 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I know her. I don't know her, 664 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: but you know, I was like, well, that's really cool. 665 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot of people that got their 666 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: start on Gilmore Girls and then went on to do 667 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: like huge things. 668 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Was that one of her first roles or did 669 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: she just like the show and wanted to take a 670 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: small role. 671 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: I think it was early on. I don't think she 672 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: was that famous yet. It was just a bit, you know, 673 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: it was just a just a job for her. 674 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I was like surprised to 675 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: see that. Yeah. 676 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: So just we're almost out of time, but I do 677 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: want to ask some more about your experience on the 678 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: set that day. So you said it was shot on Halloween. 679 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: Was it shot that day? Do you because we always 680 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: talk about how the winter scenes look wintry, but it 681 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: was probably ninety degrees the day they shot it, because it. 682 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Wasn't ninety but it was, you know, I don't really remember. 683 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember it being overly hot. It was probably cold. 684 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: But it is odd to see a scene that looks 685 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: like it should be really cold because I'd been through 686 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, I've traveled through every state As a musician songwriter, 687 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: I play small venues and I've been to every state 688 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: and have been in a lot of these quaint little areas, 689 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: and it reminds me of you know, like a town 690 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: you would see in Connecticut or in Maine or New 691 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: Hampshire or something, and it was it is a juxtaposition 692 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: to be in that place and have it be you know, 693 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: it was probably I don't know, it's probably like in 694 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: the seventies or something, but it is weird to see 695 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: that because it's it's so convincing to your eyes when 696 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: you're there with all the frost on the windows, and 697 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: they the set people, the team that did all the 698 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: sets and stuff is really incredible. 699 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 2: So so your scene, as I recall, it was kind 700 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: of an isolated scene there. You weren't there were like 701 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: any other characters or cast members in the scene. Did 702 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: you get to really interact with the cast members at 703 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 2: all or did they I know on some shows they 704 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: tell the the guests like don't talk to the principles 705 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: or like them or whatever. Like, did you any memorable 706 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: interactions with any of the cast members that day? 707 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: Not really. I mean when we did these gigs, it 708 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: would typically we'd have our own little camp. It's funny 709 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: how sets work, like there's a lot of hierarchy, and 710 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: it's almost kind of like a cast system, and by cast, 711 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: I mean a ste Yeah, there's like a social like 712 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: pecking order, and so the extras would be in their 713 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: own little area, and you'd have production assistance kind of 714 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: in their own class, and then you'd have a crew, 715 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: and we would probably be somewhere like on the level 716 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: of crew. We're not principal actors, but we're not background actors. 717 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: You know, we have different lunches and different you know, 718 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: we might have heat and hours and background actors are 719 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: all like huddled over like a burning trash can, you know, 720 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: just trying to like find what they can find. Not 721 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: really kind of also not really And so for the 722 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: most part, it's very segregated. So I think if that 723 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: day was like any other time that I've done this, 724 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: you typically have some sort of holding area. You spend hours, 725 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: just hours and hours and hours doing nothing. You're basically 726 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: just waiting. You're waiting for your turn, and then every 727 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: now and then, okay, we need you to go to wardrobe, 728 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: and then you're ready, but then you still wait for 729 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: another couple of hours, so you eat how anyone can, 730 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: like work on a set and not just I would 731 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 1: just gain so much weight working on a set because 732 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: I always like to eat all the things, and there's 733 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: always like great food and pastries and things craft service 734 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: and so forth. So as far as the actors know, like, 735 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I really I don't really remember 736 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: meeting them or hanging out with them and other things 737 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: that I've done, it's kind of been the same thing. 738 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: Like I did. This is not Gilmore Girls related, but 739 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: I did an episode of nine O two and zero 740 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: and Christina Aguilera was with us, so we were her 741 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: band and we would only interact with her on set, 742 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: but like in between takes, she was very nice and 743 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: cordial with us. Or I've done other things where there 744 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: are principal actors in the set with us, or like 745 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 1: I did a show called Girlfriends which was long past, 746 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: but it was with doesn't matter, but one of the 747 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: principal actors. We were like in her band, and she 748 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: would you know, invite us to eat with them, you know, 749 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 1: with the actors. But that was kind of an exception. 750 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: So with Gilmore Girls, I don't remember. I remember kind 751 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: of like bumping elbows with Oh my gosh, I can't 752 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: think if the actress's named Alexis. 753 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alexis Bludell. 754 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I remember like seeing her and I think 755 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: we just shared a brief moment about pastries or like, oh, 756 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's that? Is that the red one? No, 757 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 1: that looks good that it still got me some cool 758 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: points with the girls, so I'll take it. But yeah, everyone, 759 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: everything is kind of like separated, and you don't really 760 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: interact with unless you're in a scene and there's downtime, 761 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: and even then, I think the rule of thumb is 762 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: you're there to work, not there to you know, because 763 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: it I don't know, it's it's just sort of an 764 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: unspoken rule. You want to be you want to a 765 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: social event. Yeah, yeah, I mean not to say that 766 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: you can't be social, but like it is a it's 767 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: a prickly thing. You know. I've been in other situations, 768 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: not on that set, that were where it's literally spoken, 769 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: you are not you are not to make eye contact. 770 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: You know. Some actors can get very no one on 771 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: this set. Of course, everyone was wonderful as far as 772 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: I know, but there are sets where actors request that 773 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: no one looks at them. They don't want to be addressed. 774 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: And I can understand their method actors and they don't 775 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: want to be addressed by their name. Again another side thing, 776 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: but like I did a thing with Jim Carrey was 777 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: in a film and he was playing Andy Kaufman, and 778 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: he's such a method actor. It was called Man on 779 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: the Moon, and he's such a method actor that no 780 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: one on set was to look at him or address him, 781 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: and especially no one was to address him as Jim 782 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: or Jim Carrey because he was in character from the moment. 783 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: So some of that might be purposeful and having your 784 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: own space as an actor to get into character and 785 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: follow the method and so forth. So that is a 786 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: very long answer to a question, which is, no, we didn't, 787 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: but I'm sure we probably interacted during that scene, and 788 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone you know, generally, I have great memories 789 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: and experiences of doing these kinds of things are a 790 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: lot of fun. 791 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Well, we're pretty much out of time, 792 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: but I wanted to give you an opportunity. Do you 793 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 2: have any projects or anything that you want to let 794 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: the listeners know about. 795 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to. I mean, I'm a songwriter, so 796 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: I've got stuff on Spotify, So if you're listeners, since 797 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm not making much on my residual checks from gilbergirls, 798 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: they want to go in this check out my music 799 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: and see if it vibes with them. My name is 800 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: Ernie Halter, and they can just search me on Spotify. 801 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: I made a little like short link which is bitly 802 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: like bit dot l y forward slash Ernie Halter Spotify. 803 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: That's another way they can just find my records. But yeah, 804 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for like twenty years and eight 805 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: nine records later, and I'm still still doing it. Playing 806 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: at the Hotel Cafe for any of your LA fans 807 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: on March fourteenth, playing in New York at the Bitter 808 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: End on March first, and lots of other shows in 809 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: between those of like the big ones I could think 810 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: of by heart. 811 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, good. And I will say I did go 812 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: into your Spotify last night and your cover of Black 813 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: Coffee in Bed was Chef's Kiss. I am a huge 814 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 2: Squeeze fan and so when I saw that, I'm like, oh, 815 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: I need to listen to this. It probably is as 816 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: good as, if not better than, the original. And there's 817 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 2: only one other song that I've said that about, so 818 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. 819 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: So you've earned my respect because you love Squeeze and 820 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: I love them. Most people if they only know one song, 821 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: they know Tempted and I want to like an acoustic 822 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: cover of one of their songs, and it's treated me well, 823 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: I've got I've gotten to meet Chris Difford through that, 824 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: who is one of the founding members of Squeeze. And yeah, 825 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: it's been really cool. So I appreciate that. Thank you. 826 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, so definitely I recommend checking that out. So well. 827 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us today. I really enjoyed 828 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: the conversation. Again, I'm sorry Scott couldn't be here, but 829 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been able to talk to you anyway. 830 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of. 831 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: Exactly, So thank you for being here, and thank you 832 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 2: to the listeners for being here. And remember where you lead. 833 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 4: We will follow 834 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at 835 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: I Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore 836 00:44:52,719 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio dot com.