WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Duke, Duke, Duke

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast, the Duke Duke Duger Duke Duke

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<v Speaker 1>Edition as I sit down for a one on one

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with the Bengals Director of Player Personnel, Duke Tobin

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss free agency, the draft, and trying to build

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<v Speaker 1>a championship team around Joe Burrow. The Bengals Booth Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>calls of dramatic sports moments. One of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>love about my job in broadcasting Bengals and you see

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<v Speaker 1>Bearcats games as opposed to being a neutral network announcer,

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<v Speaker 1>is that I have a vested steak in the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a die hard fan, I am elated when the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals and Bearcats win and I am sometimes heartbroken when

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<v Speaker 1>they lose. And that's one of the reasons why whenever

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<v Speaker 1>there's a dramatic game winning play like the long bank

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<v Speaker 1>shot that Gonzaga freshman Jalen Sugs made on Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>to beat UCLA in overtime in the NCAA Tournament. I

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear how the local radio announcers called it.

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<v Speaker 1>To feel that raw emotion first. Courtesy of Gonzaga's IMG

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<v Speaker 1>Radio network. Here are play by play man Tom Hudson

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<v Speaker 1>and color commentator Adam Morrison. The former Bulldog star thing

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<v Speaker 1>to the right side of the poor defended by kisspur

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<v Speaker 1>Now drives, leans in the runner, comes up short, choosing

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<v Speaker 1>the rebounds and puts an in. We're time at ninety

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<v Speaker 1>three seconds left. Here's Suggs the other way, pull up

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<v Speaker 1>three for the win. Yes, yes, said the championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey no from forty of the buzzers. Wow, why for

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<v Speaker 1>national championship. Then there's the other side. Courtesy of IMG's

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<v Speaker 1>UCLA network. Here are Josh lewin In former Bruin Tracy Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>Jusang with eight with seven gets to the elbow, a

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<v Speaker 1>floater line drive. Noe gets his own rebound scores off

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<v Speaker 1>the glass. Three point three to go. Here's Suns at

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<v Speaker 1>mid court two one a thirty two footer. Oh my, goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>he baked it in. Gonzaga has won the game. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Cry on your pillow. Unbelievable suns hit, a runner bank shot,

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<v Speaker 1>going home. The Bruins are going home. Josh Lewin has

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<v Speaker 1>been my friend for more than thirty years since we

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<v Speaker 1>were young minor league baseball broadcasters in the same league,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a tremendous call under very difficult circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I told him, with Mick Cron and his

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<v Speaker 1>head coach and considering the recruits, the UCLA is sure

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<v Speaker 1>to attract. There will be many more Final Four trips

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<v Speaker 1>to come. As I record this podcast, the NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 1>is less than four weeks away twenty four days to

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<v Speaker 1>be exact, as the first round takes place on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty ninth. This week, I discussed the draft with

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<v Speaker 1>Duke Tobin, but we started our conversation with the roughly

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred twenty one million dollars that the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>spent so far on free agents from other teams at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of free agency. Was your goal, were one

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<v Speaker 1>of your biggest goals to improve the offensive line? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what we set out to do is look where the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities are in free agency, often the opportunities don't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>line up with what your needs are. But we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of the opportunities we thought we would

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<v Speaker 1>have access to, and we had a number of areas

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<v Speaker 1>on our team that we fell could could use some

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<v Speaker 1>new guys and UH, and the way that it broke,

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<v Speaker 1>we just had to maintain maintain flexibility on what we

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<v Speaker 1>were looking at and where the opportunities were. And the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities hit on defense, which is fine by me. UH

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<v Speaker 1>from where we were. We needed help there. We needed

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<v Speaker 1>some new names, some new faces, some guys coming from

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<v Speaker 1>other programs and guys with career left in them and

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<v Speaker 1>guys with success and toughness and swagger. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunities came on defense, we didn't turn them down,

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<v Speaker 1>and we looked at a lot of different position groups

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<v Speaker 1>as we went through, and to be honest, we're still

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<v Speaker 1>looking around a little bit and we'll see if anything

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<v Speaker 1>else comes available to us, but you know, we're pleased

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<v Speaker 1>with the way it happened. It's hard to predict exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to happen, but you've got to look

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<v Speaker 1>at free agency and see where the depth is, see

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<v Speaker 1>where the opportunity is and then adapt to that. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't always line up with your number one needs. We

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely get to those defensive guys, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stick with the offensive line for a second. You signed

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<v Speaker 1>Riley Reef, you re signed Quentin Spain, but those are

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<v Speaker 1>only one year deals. How does that impact the draft? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one year deals are fine with us. If

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<v Speaker 1>guys come in and do well, we're we're more than

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<v Speaker 1>willing to extend them and have him around longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>This year brought on a lot of one year deals

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<v Speaker 1>around the league just because of, oh the COVID protocols

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe how the cap was affected in a downward direction. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we go through the draft, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what we were able to do in free agency is

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<v Speaker 1>fill enough needs to where we can go into the

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<v Speaker 1>draft and feel good about taking the best player available,

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<v Speaker 1>not passing up super talented guys to take maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>reach at a position of needs. So with what we

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<v Speaker 1>got accomplished in free agency, I feel like we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to do that and we'll see what the

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<v Speaker 1>draft brings us. We do the same analysis with the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's sometimes a little deeper in some

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<v Speaker 1>areas than others, and sometimes they match up with where

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<v Speaker 1>you're picking, and sometimes they don't. And we'll maintain flexibility

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<v Speaker 1>as the draft goes on and we'll look at all

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<v Speaker 1>options and you know, hopefully be able to add to

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<v Speaker 1>our team in a number of different areas. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin. There are still

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<v Speaker 1>some free agent offensive linemen out there, more are likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be cut by their current teams. Are you still

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<v Speaker 1>actively looking to add experienced offensive lineman? Well, we are

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<v Speaker 1>always looking if an opportunity comes up in the ability

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<v Speaker 1>level is what we deem as an upgrade. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>looking to sign names, We're looking to sign ability levels

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<v Speaker 1>and players, and so it's got to be more than

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<v Speaker 1>just a recognized name. It has to be an up

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<v Speaker 1>from what we currently have if we're going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>our resources in that area. And so as it goes

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<v Speaker 1>we'll continue to evaluate and see if there's somebody we

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<v Speaker 1>feel as an upgrade from what we already have on

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<v Speaker 1>a roster, and if not, we'll look to the draft

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<v Speaker 1>and fill in some there. Joe Tuney wound up signing

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<v Speaker 1>an eighty million dollar deal with Kansas City. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>second most ever for a guard. What's your philosophy when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to paying guards, Well, you pay players, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really pay positions. And I've said that a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they felt that the player was worth that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they had to pay to get him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was really pretty much the premier player in on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line in free agency, and so when you're bidding

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<v Speaker 1>on that level a guy, you normally have to go

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<v Speaker 1>pretty high. I'm sure they would like to have them

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<v Speaker 1>at less money than that, but that's what they had

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<v Speaker 1>to do to get them. And when there's one premier

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<v Speaker 1>player like he was, particularly when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the guys that got franchise around the league,

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<v Speaker 1>they did what they had to do to get them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one player and one team. You don't get the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one other teams can't sign the same guy, so

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<v Speaker 1>he only gets to sign one place. So I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>for him. I know he's a local guy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he played at Alter and you know, I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of regard for him, and we'll see how it

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<v Speaker 1>works out for him. But in terms of who we

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<v Speaker 1>pay and how we pay, we look to try to

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<v Speaker 1>maximize our dollars on as many players as we can,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had enough needs to where we didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go after somebody that would take it all, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we ended up spending a lot of money on

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<v Speaker 1>a number of different guys when we think we filled

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<v Speaker 1>in our roster that needed filling in in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of spots. So I think it worked out fine. You

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<v Speaker 1>signed five defensive free agents, including four likely starters, and

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest deal went to Trey Hendrickson reportedly four years,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty million bucks. What do you think you're getting in

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<v Speaker 1>the former New Orleans Saint Um. We see Trey as

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<v Speaker 1>a still an ascending player, even though you know he

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<v Speaker 1>was second in the league in sacks this year. We

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<v Speaker 1>see him as an ascending player that brings a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to the unit, not just to his position, but to

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<v Speaker 1>the whole defensive unit and how he plays, and really

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<v Speaker 1>excited that we were able to convince him this was

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<v Speaker 1>a great spot for him and to get a deal

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<v Speaker 1>done with him. It's it's rewarding when it works out

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<v Speaker 1>that way. And you know, we like guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>that are emerging in their in their in their career,

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<v Speaker 1>and we think we'll have a lot of really productive,

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<v Speaker 1>good years with Trey. Will Jackson went to Washington for

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<v Speaker 1>about fourteen million dollars a year. You signed two starting

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<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks for basically the same amount. Let's start with Chittabay,

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<v Speaker 1>a woogie. He's about three years younger than Will. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did you pursue Chittabey, Well, again, we had an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to add to that position group. He was he was

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<v Speaker 1>interested in us, interested in the way that we do things,

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<v Speaker 1>felt good about the opportunity here. So we made a

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<v Speaker 1>push to get him and really excited to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>Another young player that is on the rise in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a lot of playing experience and brings a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of traits that we want in our defensive scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>And coach and a Rumo and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches felt like he was really a good fit for

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do, and so it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was easy to pursue him and was satisfying that he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to pursue us as well. Mike Hilton is also

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<v Speaker 1>still a young player. He's about a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half younger than Will Jackson. He signed for four years,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four mill reportedly, which is a good contract for

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<v Speaker 1>a slack corner. What's that say about him in your

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<v Speaker 1>view of that position? Again, with Mike, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Bengal fans know Mike because he brings a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of energy and we need that on defense. We

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<v Speaker 1>wanted guys that had played on high level defenses that

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<v Speaker 1>had a little bit of a swagger to him and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a physicality to him and h

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<v Speaker 1>and he brings those and um, you know, we're excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see the energy that he'll bring the unit. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's a confident player. And again another player

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<v Speaker 1>that fits exactly kind of what we wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. And so again another guy that was interested

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<v Speaker 1>in us, and uh, you know we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>get him from a division rival. And that's also the

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<v Speaker 1>case with defensive tackle Larry Oganjobi, who comes from the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns. What can he add upfront that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>already have? Yeah, we think Larry's got ability to play

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<v Speaker 1>on all three downs. We think we think he gives

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<v Speaker 1>us maybe a little more upfield rush than what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw from our interior guys this past year. And but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again another ascending young player that could have

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<v Speaker 1>a long career here if it if it works out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's on a short term deal with us,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we're certainly open to if if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great fit and he's producing to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>him locked up longer than that, you know, as we go.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, a guy that we played against, so we

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<v Speaker 1>know kind of what he brings, and we felt what

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<v Speaker 1>he brings, you know, on twice a year, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we were happy that again he was interested in us

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<v Speaker 1>and that we were able to get it worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin. You

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<v Speaker 1>had to let Geno Atkins go for cap room. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to bring him back at a lower number. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's all to be determined with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got such a regard for him. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest players in franchise history and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top defensive tackles in the league the last decade decade.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you're talking about a rare guy, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>we thought he gave what he could this past year

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<v Speaker 1>and again, you know, with where his contract was, we

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<v Speaker 1>had to make a move there. But who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>the future holds. We'll see if there's something that can

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<v Speaker 1>be worked out and if that, if it does, great

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<v Speaker 1>and if not, I think we've got some other guys

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<v Speaker 1>that can fill the role. All right, let's focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. I suspect you're not going to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>who you are leaning toward with a fifth overall pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but three names are being prominently mentioned. Can you share

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<v Speaker 1>a few thoughts. I'm Pine Swell, Jamar Chase and Kyle Pitts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well overall with the draft, we feel we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot and you know, we'll be careful not to

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<v Speaker 1>get overly greedy and get out of a spot to

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<v Speaker 1>where we maybe lose a premier player, and we feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we'll get one of the premier players in this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be it'll be a lot of discussion as to

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<v Speaker 1>how we go forward and that, you know, but we

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<v Speaker 1>feel that there are enough guys worthy of the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>pick in the draft to get a real guy that

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<v Speaker 1>we feel comfortable with. It also hits us at a

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<v Speaker 1>position a need, you know, specifically, with those guys, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got guys who are are you know, maybe they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>played recently, which is somewhat of a concern, but when

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<v Speaker 1>they did play, they played outstanding and they're at premier

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<v Speaker 1>positions and their guys who were dominant at those positions

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<v Speaker 1>at high level football programs. How good is the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line depth in this draft? I think it's pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>if you take the right guys. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of guys out there that have different

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<v Speaker 1>traits and uh, and we'll take guys that have the

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<v Speaker 1>traits that we want in our group. Um, But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's a deep draft. There'll be guys available

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<v Speaker 1>in the second round, third round that we have starter

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<v Speaker 1>grades on and maybe they'll last a little longer than

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<v Speaker 1>that too. But it's a position that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on. We'll evaluate it at every pick we make

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<v Speaker 1>and to see if the best guy available for us

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<v Speaker 1>is an offensive lineman. But it's a position group that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been focused on. We think having healthy guys there

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<v Speaker 1>and then the addition of Riley Reef, we think we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a better spot than we were and they'll still

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<v Speaker 1>be additions to be made to be named later. How

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<v Speaker 1>deep is the wide receiver depth than this draft. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not the depth that last year's had, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was a rare draft, and but there are good receivers. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>with the receiver group, there's a lot of different style guys,

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<v Speaker 1>even more so than the offensive line group, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different style guys. At receiver, you got

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<v Speaker 1>guys that play inside, guys that play outside. You got

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<v Speaker 1>guys who have special teams value. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>You got to pick exactly what you're looking for, you know. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at the top of the draft, you

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<v Speaker 1>want the guy that can do everything. But then as

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<v Speaker 1>the draft goes on, that's where the depth really comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>You want an inside slot guy, you want to speak

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<v Speaker 1>guy on the outside. You want a size guy that

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<v Speaker 1>has a maybe a catch radius and a matchup problem,

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<v Speaker 1>or do you want a returner you know is so

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<v Speaker 1>those are those are things that we'll talk about as

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<v Speaker 1>the draft goes on. But I don't have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with really the depth of any position group in this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there are fewer guys because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys have taken the opportunity to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to school. But the ones that are in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>we feel are quality players. How significant is the return

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<v Speaker 1>of Frank Pollock, his offensive line coach, got a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of respect for Frank working with him in the past. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know I'll drive those guys. I know

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll command respect out of him and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confident that Frank will get the group going. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you recently said the following about Joe Burrow quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've got one of the premier young quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. How is your team building approach affected by

0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.280
<v Speaker 1>having that guy in his rookie contract. Well, you always

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<v Speaker 1>want to build around your quarterback, and maybe I misspoke

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<v Speaker 1>when I said I think, I know we've got one

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<v Speaker 1>of the premier quarter young quarterbacks in this in this league,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's a guy that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be your best for and you want to do everything

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<v Speaker 1>you can to put it together around him. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>that type of guy, and that's what we're doing. We're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find the best pieces to maximize his talent.

0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's really not a unique philosophy around this league.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have a quarterback, you want to emphasize it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to do everything we can to emphasize

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<v Speaker 1>his talents. Do you engage him in the process, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's free agency or the draft. Well, I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people throughout the process, and he's an

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<v Speaker 1>engaging guy, so I like to engage with engaging guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just leave it at that. Should I try again

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<v Speaker 1>on pinas Sewell, Jamar Chase, and Kyle Pitts and see

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like to comment on them again? All three

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<v Speaker 1>high level prospects, all three the worthy of being at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the draft, and guys who we really

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<v Speaker 1>feel like could fit us and could make us a

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<v Speaker 1>better team. Final question for Duke tob and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>director of player personnel when it comes to the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of trading down, is there a number that you would

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<v Speaker 1>not be comfortable going lower than? So, for example, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go as low as ten, but I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go as low as fifteen. Yeah. Maybe, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, you know, it's it's not something you

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<v Speaker 1>would put out. We'll look at any opportunities to come

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<v Speaker 1>our way, and part of moving down is the compensation involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're not above looking at a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different options. I can't tell you that we plan on

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the first round of this draft with

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<v Speaker 1>a premier player, and I don't see us putting ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>in position to where we're dropping down a level to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get a maybe down the road. So we feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about our position where we are and if we move,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take something to get us to move,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see if anything breaks there. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be back in your office. It's been a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the time. Thanks to you. That's going to do

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