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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred five hundred, 28 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm ready, gregor start talker hiding for Sean McDonald getting 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: my act together here. Welcome. Yesterday it was raining in 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: the Houston texts. Today is beautiful and sunny, and I'm 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: happy to be here for money making conversations every Monday. 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: To let you know why I'm here. I'm here to 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: tell you about how to be successful, give you advice 34 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: on some free advice on the next steps in life. 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: They may change your life. From a guy who made 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: his share of mistakes and had a lot of steps 37 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: of success. With that being said, I interview people on 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: my show who were CEO's industry decision makers, small businesses, 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: and celebrities as they give you the secret secrets to 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: success before I get started. Uh, I am in Houston. 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Today's early voting time, and I have a gentleman on 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the phone. Want to bring him up right up live, 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: right now because I am in Houston. I gotta be 44 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: respectful for what's going on here. We always tell people 45 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: to go out and vote, and then I'll be remissed 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: if I don't give an opportunity for somebody to express 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: the importance of early voting today. Please work on the line. 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Mr Rodney Griffin. Thank you that Mrs McDonald's marketing yourself 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and well has the institution. So so we's got out 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: of camp. You should go bust out with compliments. So 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: that's how you're gonna get me. You know, I get 52 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: this quick profoil. If you're gonna give appreciate you give 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: it a public service or now and like you did 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: on this and courts about voting, I'm I'm riding the 55 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Griffin and a lot of people already know me with 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: the Texas Dettocratic Party and the days this first day 57 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: of early voting, so I vote get it over now. 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: Here's the key in early voting. You don't have to 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: go through any particular precincts just as long as it's 60 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: in the county. For example, in Harris County, any precinct 61 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: in Harris County you can go out and vote and 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: on there you're gonna have a constitutions amendments about seven 63 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: of them. But also as important you have candidates. But 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: he's local elections for the Harris for the Houston UH 65 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: Border School Border Trustees, you community to college and you 66 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: how do massourn see that in forth Being County in 67 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: particulars these district council races that are going on that 68 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: and then just remember the adage all politics is local. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Might make a bad graandmar, but it makes a good 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: sense and you go out because those are the postals 71 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: gon't determined more than Washston will. It's important, but they 72 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: will determine how that money is spent. They come for 73 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: Washston and what you getting what you don't care. And 74 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: the last thing I want to say again thank you 75 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: for your time, is the adage is vot think who 76 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: ripping out my man? Stay strong again that the day 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: is the early voting. I just was gonna be remissed 78 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: if I didn't give them my opportunity to express the 79 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: importance of voting because they're voting and how people vote 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: can affect small businesses, and I have to keep in 81 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: lyning with That's what money making conversation is all about. 82 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: It's about laying the guidelines right now. That's why the 83 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: SBA is out there right now giving out these disaster 84 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: relief loans get these small businesses up and running the 85 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: game because of the fact that small businesses pay taxes, 86 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: and pay taxes is how we get our system to 87 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: give you running correctly. That's why a couple of months ago, 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: and I said a couple of months ago, where the 89 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: mayor of Houston was trying to uh figure out a 90 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: way to overcome the the all these flood district by 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: creating increasing property taxes on homes that were because he 92 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: realized that we're gonna be an issue that was gonna 93 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: be a problem because of the fact that the model 94 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: damages that were done by Hurricane Harvey. We are recovering 95 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: from Hurricane Harvey. I'm recovering from Hurricane Harvey, and I 96 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: hope that you are recovering from her Hurricane Harvey. Personally. 97 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: Today my show is featuring power couples, husband and wife 98 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: teams who are working together and being very successful power couples. 99 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: Power couples, that's a amazing thing. Like my wife, she's 100 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: an optometry you know, that's her field. Doctor of eyeballs, 101 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: doctor of eyeballs, that's what she do. And so I 102 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: was in the entertainment in writing, so we were totally different. 103 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: So our conversations always lean differently, which means she come 104 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: in talking about eyes, I come in talking about scripts. Now, 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: these power couples that we're bringing on today are say, say, 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: joined to the hip for the same cause of success, 107 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: which can be interesting. I thought it would be interesting 108 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: to bring them on the show to talk about it 109 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: and discuss how they make it all happen, how they 110 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: balance that all out, because I think it's important that 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: we get that out there, to say that you can 112 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: work together, live together, and sustained happenings both in your 113 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: marriage and your business even though you're participating in the 114 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: same format of success. So that's important that we get 115 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: that out today, and that's why we have power couples 116 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: on the show to day. Also today another little local news, 117 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: they trapped me in the hallway and I have no 118 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: problem talking about prayer of view and them Homecoming. I 119 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: gotta let people know I'm in Houston, Texas. Prayer of 120 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: you and if you can't get no more local than 121 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: Prayer of You and Them. Prayer of You and Them 122 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Homecoming is this weekend. Now. Back in college, I went 123 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to College University Houston. I used to ride down the 124 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Prayer Ofew and Them. That was my school going party 125 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: in the Baby Dome. I can remember one of my 126 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: favorite songs today. I was dancing with this young lady 127 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: to the O J You're my darling, darling, baby bed. 128 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: I remember that today. So Prayerview has always had an 129 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: amazing moment in my life. So with that being said, 130 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I am giving away a pair of tickets to the 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Preview and Them game on my show today. It's the 132 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: first official giveaway other than my Perfect Bakes scales. If 133 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: you can tell me the colors the school colors of 134 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: the Prayerview and Them school, they're the same colors as 135 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: my fraternity on Making Scide Fire. That's why I chose 136 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: that I gotta spread the love of mak a sci fi. 137 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: If they're gonna have me do this on my show, 138 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: which I'm doing with no arms twisted behind my back. 139 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I want you to call me at e three to 140 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: two three zero five five nine two. That's eight three 141 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: two two three zero five five night two and you 142 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: will with a pair of tickets BAM to the preview 143 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: and AM home Coming this Saturday. This Saturday, call me up. 144 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: Got you hooked up? Rus Sean McDonald eight three two 145 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: five five nine too. You can also call me if 146 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: you have any questions small business questions that you want 147 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: to get answers, life changing questions. Somebody just fired you. 148 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: You don't know what to do. You're trying to change 149 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: your jobs. You don't know what you do, and you 150 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: realize that you credit messed up. You don't know what 151 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: to do. You didn't realize that. Hey, I just need 152 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: to talk to Sean because I don't know what to 153 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: do period. I'm confused in life. I don't know where 154 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: to go in life. I don't know what to do 155 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: in life. I don't know who to talk to in life. Well, 156 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: you can talk to me, did you? You can to 157 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: meet Rashan McDonald on money Making Conversations eight three to 158 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: two three zero five five night too. You can call 159 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: me and talk about that. I'm gonna telling you I 160 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: have these liberty openness now, because once I started interviewing, 161 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't stop my interviews and take phone calls. I'm 162 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: just people always be calling me in the middle of 163 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: a great interview. I just can't stop talking to my 164 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: great interview. Then hell an your questions. That's why I 165 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: try to give you a little window up top, a 166 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: little one on the back end. I'm trying to take 167 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: more and more phone call. People keep saying, Rashan, you 168 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: need that engagement, ri Shan, you need to let people 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: start talking to you. Ri Shall you talk too much? 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: We Shan make Donna. People want to hear from you. Rishean. 171 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Won't you comment on your Facebook page? People need to 172 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: know they leave it comments, you're not responded to them 173 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: on your Facebook page. Mighty to make conversations, Rishan, you're 174 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: leaving your fans hanging. Rishane, what are you trying to do? 175 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: You grab you gavinizing all these people and you're not 176 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: reacting to the engagement. Lord, have mercy. Why when you 177 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: become successful, there's a lot of things that jump on 178 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: your plate that you cannot do anything about but respond 179 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: in a positive manner. That's why I'm smiling. If you're 180 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: watching me on Facebook, you can see him smiling because 181 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy because May first on this station, 182 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: when it was k Y and D I started money 183 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: making conversation. I started I was only gonna do it 184 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: for four weeks, and now we are at October twenty three, 185 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: that's more than four weeks. And I feel I found 186 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: a voice. I found there an opportunity to be able 187 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: to change people's lives. And that's what and the and 188 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: the the mantra or the theme or the the about 189 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: of money making change has evolved every month to where 190 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: I feel now I am telling you what I'm going 191 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: to do. My job is to give you the secrets, 192 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: and there are secrets if you don't know. I was 193 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: with my nephew the other day just talking about business, 194 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: breaking it down to him, and I can just see it. 195 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: And he's been in business for over ten years and 196 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: things I was telling him, he looked at me like 197 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: he had never heard before. And that just lets you know, 198 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: just because you're in business don't mean you know all 199 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: the the small steps of being successful, because a lot 200 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: of things that you are doing may not be right. 201 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: And just because you're making money, the way you're making 202 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: money might not be the real money to make long turn. 203 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: So the goal in this whole situation is for you 204 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: to win, not only for yourself, for you to win 205 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: for everybody around you, for you to for you to 206 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: do your accounting correctly, for you to hire your employees 207 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: and work them correctly. If you have health plans and 208 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: you own it, then they need to be on that. 209 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: You know, some people think that just because you can 210 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: make everybody you hire contract worker. Can't do that. If 211 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: you acquire that they come in at a certain time 212 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: every day, at a certain time, they are employees. So 213 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: these are little things like that that I can tell 214 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: you and help you along the way, and don't feel 215 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: bad if you don't know. Don't feel bad if you 216 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: don't know because you don't know it. Guess what called 217 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: me and I would tell you how to learn. And 218 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: that's what money making conversations about. It's about helping you learn. Now. Also, 219 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: one quick note, the deadline tomorrow is uh for the 220 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: SBA loans. The deadline tomorrow SBA Loans got on the call, 221 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: Bobby right, Bobby right? Yeah, Sean, my man, how you 222 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: doing about right this? Mother? Uh? Let's look a few 223 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: weeks ago entrepreneurs on your show. H we'll undermasus, sir. 224 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: And you said you you said, uh, we're sharing the 225 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: clothes and the white sheet, you know with my mother. 226 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. You know this is not your unless 227 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: your your mom was a Wahia. That's what I mean. 228 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: What's it what you're doing difference showing what you talking 229 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: about the laundromat lady was on the call from in Atlanta. 230 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: Larder or what I'm doing different? Yea, it's based in 231 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: the Latta, Georgia. What she's doing different is it's kind 232 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: of like Starbucks meets a laundromat. You know, they're WiFi 233 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: in there. What you don't see the traditional launder mat. 234 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Launder art machines are digitally operator. You can use your 235 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: credit card, which you don't see the traditional laund to matt. 236 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: She also has satellite TV. What you don't see the 237 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: additional laundromat. And also she has a playground area for 238 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: kids to play because she renovated an old McDonald's, so 239 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: you know those old McDonald's with those built in playground areas, 240 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: where she held onto that and built the laundron mat 241 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: out of that. So basically she's seeking an opportunity to 242 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: take what she's doing in an impoverished neighborhood. That's what 243 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: she wanted to emphasize that she was going back in 244 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: the hood and and before gentrification comes in and takes over, 245 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: she's coming in early. So let people know you can 246 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: create your own wealth and empowerment and become a taxing community. 247 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: If you become a taxing community, when you would generate wealth, 248 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: and then guess what, the police start showing up on 249 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: time and they start building buildings around your place of 250 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: business that can be taxed, and that's all this is 251 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: about taxes. Okay, so so so, so that's what she 252 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: was saying. She's not coming the prisons though she's going 253 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: the world. I wasn't. Yes, you know, yes she's going. 254 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: And you know and and and under the improvised communities 255 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: they don't have and they don't sell your apartment complexes, 256 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: they don't have lundon match of washing machines in your 257 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: apartment complexes generally or in your apartment are condos. And 258 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: so where I live, you know, I can go in 259 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: and and look at the floor play and go they 260 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: got a laundromat in the facility or they have I 261 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: got one in my apartment I have. I've lived in 262 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: New York, I lived in in Chicago, in l A 263 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: the last years, I've always had Washington drawer in my 264 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: condor of my apartment, and that's not available to people 265 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: that in partished neighborhood liberary. I gotta go, my man. 266 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate your ca the hood. You stay strong and 267 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: keep coling, y'all. I appreciate you. Biby Ray again coming up. 268 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: All right, be strong now, hey, team money Making comes 269 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: to that money making conversations. Be right back with my 270 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: first power couple, Dr Nikki and Eugene Walter Curly Nicki 271 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: dot com. We're right back with more two breaks. Y'all 272 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: figure out money making conversations. We'll be right back Hi, 273 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: just with Sean McDonald. Welcome back to money Making Conversations, 274 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: UH broadcasting live from Houston, Texas on four eight a m. Also, 275 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: you can hear every all the old broadcasts, all the 276 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: current broadcast, this broadcast this week on my Heart Radio podcast. 277 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: Going to the just type of money making conversations pops 278 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: right up again. It's important that people understand why I'm here. 279 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm here to UH change your life. At the top 280 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: of my show today, I promoted that I will be 281 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: featuring power couples, husband and wife teams who are working 282 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: together and being very successful. Uh. Found in the two 283 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: thousand a curly Nikki dot com for natural hair has 284 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: become the largest and most popular blog of its kind. 285 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Over the years, the site has built a loyal and 286 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: massive fan base millions of women and more than twelve 287 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: countries who rely on Walton's personal journey, advice and perspective. 288 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Please welcome to money Making Conversations the founders of curly 289 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: Nikki dot com, Doctor and Mrs Eugene Walton. Tell you, 290 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Eugene, Can I just talk 291 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: to you for a minute? Man, just talk to you? Okay? So, 292 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: because you know I I called, I called up your wife. 293 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell your wife because this is a husband 294 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: and wife power team interview. You don't saying inter you 295 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: hit me? Hit me that, okay? So I said, I said, 296 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: can you send me ten questions so I can interview 297 00:16:53,960 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: you guys ten questions now so I can interview you too? Okay, y'all? 298 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: You got it right? Why ca y'all? So this morning 299 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: I looked toward again, I went and I called I said, uh, 300 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: I said a Nikki, is your husband gonna be on 301 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: the call? She said, I said, why he ain't mentioned? 302 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: And nothing to take. I'm a silent part I think 303 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: I'll respond to shut he gonna We're gonna equally respond. 304 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: But guess what you got no question for me to 305 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: ask him everything business development, to teach you pardner ships, 306 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: I said, why I didn't get a question like that? Now, 307 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: So that that lets me know that you're very humble 308 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: and gay and truly a background man. Absolutely, And if 309 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I you know, I always tell people when I when 310 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: I introduced him, NICKI that don't you know that don't 311 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: know us? Is that my wife is much more beautiful 312 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: than I am. Don't be don't be alarmed. And so 313 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: I'm happy to have been a silent partner into and 314 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: to um be there to support and think strategically and 315 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of logically about about the business that she has 316 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: gone out and done really incredible things well immediate. You know, 317 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: I've been knowing her for a minute because of the 318 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: fact that hoppercollins when I had Steve over there, Steve 319 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Harvey being and we had launched out very successfully the 320 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: uh act like a lady. You know, uh think like 321 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: a man series that's over three million copies. We had 322 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: the same agent over there. I say edited, I should say, uh, 323 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Don Davis, and she told me she we have just 324 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: she's we have this really talented author about natural hair. 325 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a ball here, dude. So you really 326 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: you really ain't gonna get my attention real quick, doc, 327 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: And so she said, Rush, could you get them on? 328 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: Could you get them on our show? Can you can 329 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: you help promote to get her brand out there? So 330 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: that was the first time I was exposed to her. 331 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: And it's been a tremendous blessing. I would say, to 332 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: have her in my life and uh and also to 333 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: see the changes that she's made two people around the world, 334 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it's been a journey and it's been amazing. 335 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: And so but she told me that you are the 336 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: inspiration behind Nikki dot com. Talk to me, yes, sir, yeah, yeah, 337 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: and really quickly before we start, let me just mention 338 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: that people may not know this, but at that time, you, 339 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean you, you Nikki reach out to you um 340 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: as well, and you would responded and and you just 341 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: were a great um resource for us in general, you know. 342 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Unrelated to brain promotion and stuff like JA. If people 343 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: don't know that that that something people should know is 344 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: that your pro community and um, you know this is 345 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: not the first time we talked, and usually when we talked, 346 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I got questions for you and you're the share and 347 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I gotta tell you. I got to 348 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: and I and I respect both for you know they 349 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: think about it is that people ask me that. And 350 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Doing this radio show, I 351 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: didn't realize what I was doing. You know, I would 352 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: just doing stuff out of respect, out of opportunity. You know, 353 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: God has given me knowledge and information that I am. 354 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: I have to share. I have to give it away 355 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: if I take it to the grave. What purpose have 356 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I served on this planet to just be that selfish? 357 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: And so when people ask me questions, and I mean 358 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: on the phone this we could I get like six 359 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: or seven calls a weekend from either celebrities, athletes, CEOs 360 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: seeking advice and regular people seeking advice about what could 361 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: I sign this? Could I do this? And then my 362 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: wife would look at me, go, you should be charging them. 363 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: You should be charging them. I know why you can 364 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: win the free advice. You should be charging them. I go, baby, everybody, 365 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: she'd be landing that bad man be looking at me. Oh, 366 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: or you you're just gonna just give away some most 367 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: free advice. That's that's that's me, That's how I operate it. 368 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: Can I just be me? And that's why I was 369 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: just telling telling Nikki on the phone this morning. Could 370 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I find that who her husband is? Yeah, let me 371 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell you the story. So, um, 372 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, so we've been together for sixteen years. We're 373 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: thirty four years old, and people always here that we've 374 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: been together for so long, and they're like, when did 375 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: you guys get together? You know? Um? But really what 376 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: happened was very simple. I went to college and I was, 377 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, freshman week in college is ready to meet 378 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: everybody I could, if you know what I meant? Um, 379 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: And I walked past. Uh. Actually this very probably the 380 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: thinnest woman I've ever met him between in my life, 381 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: very pretty while passed me. And you know, we went 382 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: to a small school that only had like a hundred 383 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: black folks that in the first place. So I'm like, 384 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: she didn't speak to me, you know, um. And so 385 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: I was like the next time I see her she's 386 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: gonna talk to me. So you know, we we started 387 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: off as friends for a month and been dating ever since. 388 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: Um yeah, sir, um, So you know, do you want 389 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: to tell your story about I had an issue with 390 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: my hair. I hated it. I hated my hair when 391 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: it was natural. I only loved myself when my hair 392 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: was perfectly bone straight. And Eugene had like a nineteen 393 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: nineties four Corsica at the time, So he would take 394 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: me to and from St. Louis, Missouri, which was where 395 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: my hair stylus was. That's a three hour trip one way. 396 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: He would take me all the way there. If my 397 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: hair fresh school as love, become back to school, only 398 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: for it to sweat out again because we didn't even 399 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: have air conditioning in the dorm because we went to 400 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: school a million years ago. So it was just it 401 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. And he pulled me to the side at 402 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: one point and he's like, making your a psychology major. 403 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: You're a beautiful girl. You should realize that this is 404 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: an issue. You were just as beautiful with your hair curly, 405 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, as as when it's straight. And I hadn't 406 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: ever heard that before, I think verbalized. So it took 407 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: me back for a minute, and then I started researching 408 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: and learning how to do my own hair up. And 409 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: to that point I had never even washed my own hair. 410 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: I had always gone to the salon. All I knew 411 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: how to do was keep it straight. So it was 412 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: really him that took me to that place of recognition 413 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: and that led to my freedom um and eventually the 414 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: freedom of other women. It was also get his idea 415 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: to actually start the blog. After about five or six 416 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: years of intense research and even sharing what I was 417 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: learning real time with members of several forums around the web, 418 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: I got very very popular, very well known in those spaces, 419 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: and teams would get annoyed because it's like he had 420 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: woken up this monster in me, and he's like, Mackey, 421 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: you're always on the computer, Like what are you doing? 422 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: And why are we not being paid for this? All day? 423 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: We're not talking no more, like oh it's busy. He said, 424 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: why don't you start your own site and let these 425 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: women come and you know, talk to you and maybe 426 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: he can make some money. And I'm like, oh, who 427 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: would ever want to hear me talk about hair every day? 428 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: And it's me two months to get up my courage 429 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: to launch the website and the rest of history. It 430 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: was all It was Jean's idea to start curly Nicky 431 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: dot com and it's been an amazing resource, of amazing 432 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: positive platform for so many women. What exactly is the 433 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: little story about my daughter, my daughter, you know, my wife, 434 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: and that during it burnt all my daughter's hair out 435 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: her head because it was easy. You know you're going there. 436 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: Once you get that perm, you don't have to worry 437 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: about it no more. And we all and it took 438 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: it took about two years to get it back right, 439 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because but but the reason 440 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: we did it was laziness. I'll be honest with you. 441 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: Look cute, but it was laziness because of the fact 442 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: that you could take it in there and at last 443 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: it was just straight. And so now you know, we 444 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: flat iron it out if she wants it done that way. 445 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: But we don't do any more perms anymore. And so 446 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: I say that to say, what exactly is natural hair? Right? 447 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: So natural hair is you embracing and learning to love 448 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: and work with and care for your natural texture at 449 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: roads from your scouts. So actually caring for it as 450 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: opposed to just maintaining it, which is the way we 451 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: were hot growing up. Even with your daughter, we knew 452 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: how to name hate our straight hair. I never knew 453 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: how to care for now true hair. So it consists 454 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: of going natural by either big chopping meaning cutting off 455 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: all of the relaxed hair and one self group, or 456 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: just gradually transitioning, cutting off little bits at a time. Um, 457 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: it sounds like that's maybe what you all do with 458 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: your daughter, so natural in that way, and then learning 459 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: to actually style and care for and love the natural 460 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: hair that you have. You now, I want to make 461 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: sure now when we apply a hot iron, is that's 462 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: still the natural way? Are we You're still natural? It's 463 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: important to know that natural hair is very versatile, so 464 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: you can do lots of different styles. You can blow 465 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: it out, you can wear it straight, you can wear 466 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: to a throw, you can wear it and it twisted out. 467 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: I just caution my readers, my hair is straight right now. 468 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: Caution my readers to use proper tools and techniques when 469 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: they're doing these things so that they don't ran back 470 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: in the same place, needing to transition out of damage. Okay, 471 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: don't because I really want to talk about this, because 472 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: because the word natural just help me with this because 473 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: I want to get the language. I don't want to 474 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: sound crazy, but you know that were natural means because 475 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: you see women with different styles and sometimes it just 476 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: looks bush. It just looks like just hairs on their heads. 477 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's just on their head and so so, 478 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and I want to I want to get some callers there. 479 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: And also because that might be confused that you gotta 480 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: look like that that's natural. But you just told me, 481 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: we're sure you can straighten out your hair, you can 482 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: use a hot and that's still the natural hairs. Exactly 483 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: what you're saying is like, there's there's women with relax 484 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: hair walking around her looking crazy, noting, not calm, not frush. 485 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: There's natural hair women out here looking crazy too. I'm 486 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: talking about natural hair together, you know, like caring for it, 487 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: sawing it. You know, that's a different whole thing. And 488 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: that is natural hair. Now natural as in like not 489 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: manipulating it. That's not what we're talking about. We're still 490 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: talking about I love, I love, I love because you 491 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: know something, I can never have said what she said 492 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: out of the blast of those social media you know, 493 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: she used to word manipulated, So I would never work manipulated. 494 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: I listened that had look at all crazy. That's what 495 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: I'll be looking at. I don't want my daughter had 496 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: looking like that because because you know what you're called 497 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: that blasted with the natural look. Was Beyonce daughter blue? 498 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she got blasted because her daughter hair was 499 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: just just there, you know. And and but they were 500 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: saying that was the natural look for her daughter to 501 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: sport her hair like that. I know that that's the 502 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: that's the eight months year old that kind of popped 503 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: up there in your lives. I see. I know both 504 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: of them. They speak the baby, but they happen, they're happy, 505 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: and so my whole thing is that and dealing with 506 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: these different things. When I come back, I want to 507 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: talk about these different strategic partnerships that you guys are 508 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: created and also the brand build because it's important that 509 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: everybody here, the energy between you know, Eugene and Nikki, 510 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: and that's why empowerment is important because you do win. 511 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, I would not be here today if my 512 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: wife didn't support me, even I would say that. You know, 513 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: when I was on the road telling jokes, she was 514 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: in there looking at people eyeballs because she was an optometrys. 515 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't make it no money, and so so I 516 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: know that there has to be a partnership in order 517 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: for this to become successful. When we come back, we're 518 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the strategic partnerships and talk some more. 519 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: And again, I'm just so happy to have both of 520 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: you guys on the show. And it is not the 521 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: first time or the last time we're gonna talk. Be 522 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations with the founders 523 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: of Curly Nicki dot com. Hi, this ra Sean McDonald. 524 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm back with money making conversations on the phone or 525 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: the founders of Curly Nicki dot coms. Once. They're good 526 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: friends because I've known them for a long time now 527 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: and it's been special watching their growth and uh, watching 528 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: their travels. And they got a new one in new one, 529 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: new one in the phone now eight months old, she 530 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: said Richean, I didn't expect this, But I'm gonna get 531 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: back in shape really quick. I'm gonna be like serena week. 532 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody gonna know what's happened to me. I'm just 533 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna have this baby. They're gonna be just gonna hit 534 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: some nods in the background. It's gonna it is gonna. 535 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: So happy to have back on the phone doctor, doctor 536 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Eugene walteron and Nicky Walter. How you doing good? Good? 537 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for having us. Well, it's great to uh. You know, 538 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: I always tell people when you do interviews like this, 539 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: this is like it's part of the process you know 540 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: you're doing. You get the word out and if you 541 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: you keep layering opportunity on top of opportunities, and it's 542 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: not really like it's gonna be a home run. You know, 543 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: whether you do Steve Harvard Show, you do Doctor as 544 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: you do Rachel Ray, or you do you know, the 545 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: view all this stuff. You have to just continue to 546 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: keep in motion. It's about the marketing and the brandy. 547 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts when I say something like that, 548 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: Eugene um marketing and brandy? You know what's funny Um, 549 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: because if you if you think about what Nick's been doing, 550 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: this is she's nine years in at this point and 551 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: has more influence now than when she started. And I 552 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: think one of the more interesting things that led to 553 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: that was the focus the business model that she pursued. 554 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, she she ran a consumer based or consumer 555 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: focused business model, which in case you know, anybody was listening. 556 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: That's not an easy way to make money, right, because 557 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: the commodity you're selling is objective information. And so with 558 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Nikki it was you know, if I so when I 559 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: take consumer base, I say, the core idea is that 560 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: however you package and sell your product, does not compromise 561 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: the integrity of that product in a way that would 562 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: hurt the consumer. And so really what she did was 563 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: focused on putting on high quality content that spoke to 564 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: upperly mobile you know, ethnic primarily black women, UM, and 565 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: pursuing an integrity based model in terms of the things 566 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: she promoted and in particular things that she passed on 567 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: promoting UM and the and the various moneys she left 568 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: on the table, and she left a lot of play 569 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: on the table. I witnessed it myself, UM, and was broke, 570 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: Like you were like just similar to the story you 571 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: were doing. It meant something to me. UM. But you know, 572 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: she put on that high quality content and really offered 573 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: a value proposition for the for the brands that wanted 574 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: to advertise, and for the consumers that needed the objective 575 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: information that made sense. UM. The brands got a concentrated, 576 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, collection of their potential consumers in one place 577 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: and a positive pro black um community. Um, the consumers 578 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: got objective information, and we were also putting on content. 579 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, Nikki particular was really good at this putting 580 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: on really high quality, you know, promotional content. So we 581 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: did things like take our audience to the Video Music 582 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Awards and let the meet Kevin Hart before he went 583 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: on stage, right, UM let them. You know, we did 584 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: interviews with more than a hundred black female celebrities who 585 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: talks exclusively about their hair and the struggles of being 586 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: a black woman in the media and dealing with their hair. 587 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: We change, um the live events model from a hair 588 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: show based model, which has really been was a consumer 589 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, which was a was a kind of professional 590 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: inside industry event, but you know the big hair shows 591 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: now for her absolute hair show things like that, and 592 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: really turned those into consumer based events where women really 593 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: got together in lounges and bars and spot products and 594 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: had community. And you know, manufacturers really want to get 595 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: in on that. So I think, you know, focusing you know, 596 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: looking for opportunities to make money while without compromising the 597 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: core products, which was community that she was selling. UM 598 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: is the way she is the reason why she's relevant today, 599 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: But that would be my guests. Honestly, it's a phenomenon. 600 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why she's you know, why she's been 601 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: so important to black women, But I'm happy about it. 602 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy that we're able to do something, you know, 603 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: great for the community. I think cool. This is my 604 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: segred way to the acknowledge me of her success. Black 605 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: Enterprise named her one of the way of supposed Influential Voices, 606 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: and S has named her among their top thirty five 607 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: and under Young Black and amazing when you get these acclauds, 608 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: the accolades like these, Nikki, because I know you know 609 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: you you on these different shows. You know, do you 610 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: feel you want your own show? You want to just 611 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: be able to promote your own voice? What what's the goal? 612 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: What's the next steps with you? Nikki? You know I 613 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: and I have lots of ideas for what the next 614 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: step is. However, I'm also I believe that I'm being 615 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: um like divinely guided. I did not know that curly 616 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: Nikki dot com was going to become what it became. 617 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: You know, I was doing it because it felt good. 618 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Um And I believe that money comes, like you know, 619 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: that supply comes when you're doing something that is coming 620 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: from that place. So you're providing a service for people. 621 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: I believe that I'm being used in many ways, and 622 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what the next iteration of 623 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: that is. You know, I still love talking about hair, 624 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: but I have other passions that I would like to 625 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: flush out a bit more. I'll be calling you soon 626 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: to talk about that. Yes, yes, and fussing at me. 627 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: But I love being on the shows. I have another 628 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: series of Doctor Odds appearances coming up. You know. It's 629 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: it's really fun. But I know that I have more 630 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: to offer to and that's that's just finding your voice 631 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: and that and that think that's really key. It'sn't finding 632 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: your voice and just like Max, he got a voice. 633 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah and uh. And so 634 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: the thing about it tell us about some of the 635 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: some of the upcoming projects. I see the Lorial sponsors books. 636 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: You already mentioned the Doctor Arts appearances. UM, just just 637 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: tell us what's going in the pipeline right now, right. 638 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: So the Lorios book was actually very very special. I 639 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: actually UM was offered another book by HarperCollins, but decided 640 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: to offer this book to the audience for free as 641 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: a way to give back. Obviously, I made money because 642 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: you know, money was a really awesome promotional tool, even 643 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: though the book itself was not promotion. The book was 644 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: an actually real book. There was no you know, commercials 645 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: in my book. It was all my words. Nothing was bought. 646 00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: It was amazing mutually beneficial partnership and still available for 647 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: free right now on www dot dark and lovely dot com. 648 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: Backslash Nicky Walpin. Also, I have been trying to convince 649 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: my husband for the last four years since we moved 650 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: to DC, to direct his full attention on digital marketing, 651 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: and he's finally done that. This year has been a major, major, 652 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: major ship, a major change, and he's gonna Yeah. So 653 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: I actually left teaching. I was teaching that I taught 654 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: at Penn State for three years. I taught political science, 655 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: and I taught at American University down here and uh 656 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: d C, I taught statistics. So I'm also a quantitative 657 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: methodologist by training, and um, you know, and I love teaching. 658 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: I love teaching. I love everything about working with students. 659 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: Hated everything about the industry itself, so, you know, so 660 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: she finally, you know, conversal market Yeah. And also and 661 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: while this was happening, you know, we would we would 662 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: whenever I had time off, which was every winner and 663 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: every summer, we would do our big marketing kind of initiatives. So, 664 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do what I'm queshing out my 665 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: team right now when we're I have a selag group 666 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: of of clients, mostly black on startup business is actually 667 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: here in the dmz um that I work with now. 668 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna open this up and do search engine optimization. 669 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: All the people that are in the marketing world know 670 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: this stuff and this is all well worn territory at 671 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: this point. But that's what I'm doing. I'm going full 672 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: time in the marketing and um, I'm excited. And you 673 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: know what's funny, I'm scared and that's the best time. Well. 674 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: I always tell people when you are afraid, it's the 675 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: right move because you're being pushed out of your conference 676 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: zone and I'm here. People use the words fear, people 677 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: use the words selfish incorrectly as far as I'm concerned, 678 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: because you have to be selfish to to deny other 679 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: things in life in order to be successful. I know 680 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: for a fact that I selfishly, you know, when my 681 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: family was living used, I selfishly was living in New York. 682 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: I was selfishly living in l A and denied my 683 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: daughter and opportunity to your dad on a daily basis. 684 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: But I was there as much as I could. But 685 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: I knew the bigger upside was it if I could 686 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: keep success, it could change our lives financially. And it 687 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: did you know every time when I moved to New York, 688 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: I was afraid. I moved to Chicago with the talk shows, 689 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: afraid I moved to l A. I was afraid because 690 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: there's so much uncertainty and people people just deny themselves 691 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: so much from fear. They stay at regular jobs and 692 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: they don't make them because they're afraid to find a 693 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: new job or somebody may not harm or they might 694 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: go the new job and they might close, or they 695 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: might get fired, or they don't know anybody over there. 696 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: So that's that's the part of the game that I 697 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: really respect in my relationship with Nikki over the years. 698 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: And here and you're going out in this new digital platform, 699 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: is that called me my friend? I'm gonna I'm gonna 700 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: say my friend because that's what I built this show on. 701 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: And I may have some opportunities going on because I 702 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: just a lot of people knowing the media. I just 703 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: closed this UH Air Force Extreme Air National Guard uh 704 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: deal for three years when handling all the branding and 705 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: marketing and tensing and trying for fifty states. Yes, our 706 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: headquarters are gonna win. Our headquarters will be in the 707 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: DC market. And so so it's important that you you 708 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: get that digital thing together and reach out to me. 709 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: And that's all this is about. It's about gathering information 710 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: and and and combining it. So so this started out 711 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: as a casual conversation now as a money making conversation, 712 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: and that's what it's all. That's great to hear, you know, 713 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: talking to somebody like you. I mean, I think the 714 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: first time I talked to you, you are already too 715 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: emmies and I think, yes, I mean I think you 716 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: might have been going things like you know, So to 717 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: hear somebody say, you know who was at a completely 718 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: different level than you would say, Hey, you know, I'm 719 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: nervous or I'm scared to do things, and really to 720 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: see how even what you're doing now, I love it, 721 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: you know. So it's really great to hear that. I 722 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: take a lot of inspiration and encouragement from watching the 723 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: folks like yourself. So here we about to close out 724 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: this interview. Nikki Gott, you gotta been in touch with 725 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: me so we can really get re balance, find out 726 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: where you're going, so we can get everything structure not 727 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: doc you know. First of all, I appreciate your Nikki 728 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: Live fans and James Franklin, the head coach over there 729 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: number two of the country, crowd of you right now 730 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: and white this weekend and beat up on Michigan now 731 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: now on this digital, my friend, on this digital. I 732 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: really want you to I don't know where you add 733 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: on that, but I feel they can play an important role. 734 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to reach is that millennial market 735 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: after gen Z market eighteen to thirty four, and I'm 736 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: trying to get there. That is my plan. I'm putting 737 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: it out in cyberspace to you. Give me appreciation, my friend, 738 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: give me appreciation. Okay again, that's where everything is going. 739 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate you again. I'm on the phone with their founders, 740 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: husband and wife team of Curly Nicki dot com. You 741 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: can hear this show again play back on our heart 742 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: Radio podcast. Just go to our Heart Radio and type 743 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: of money Making Conversations. Nicki Walton, Dr Eugene Walton, thank 744 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: you for calling my show. Appreciate you. We'll be back 745 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: with more my man or Checkmate Hudson coming right up 746 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversations. Be right back cool, I'm back 747 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations hosted by me Rashan McDonald. You can 748 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: be wow. Did I just stutter? Call me eight three 749 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: two zero five five nine two. That's eight three two 750 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: zero five five nine two. This Rashan mcgonald, the host 751 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: of Money Making Conversation. Let's get started with our next guest. 752 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: My next guest is a true moti vader. He's a 753 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: former small time crook gang member, state trooper, Air Force veteran, 754 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: and World Right Now chess champion. He's the author of 755 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: the number one Amazon bestselling book One Move at a Time, 756 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: How to Win a Chest in Life. Please welcome the 757 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation or in Checkmate Hudson, Mr Hudson, How 758 00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: you doing, Mr Hutson, Yes, sir, they how are you 759 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: doing it? They? I can hear now they're pressing the 760 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: wrong buttons up here, Robert over here pressing all the 761 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: wrong buttons. Man talking about you on the call and 762 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm laying out that great interview and there's great intro. 763 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, you know you just 764 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: can't hire your cousins man, the high family brother. You know, 765 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm claiming him and his family because otherwise I had 766 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: to get rid of I ain't doing Mr Hudson. Oh. 767 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: Like I say, the best day of my life. I 768 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: get there, talk to some bringing people and connect with you. 769 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: It's always a good thing. Well, I want to I 770 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: know I wanted to. Uh. I mentioned in the intro 771 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: about small time crook gang member, state trooper, Air Force 772 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: veteran and world right now chess champion. Can we can 773 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: we go through each layer so we can tell people 774 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: about this journey as to how we're on the phone today. 775 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you originally from? Where are 776 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: you originally from? Imham, Alabama? I was. I was in 777 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: a family. But I have I have twelve brothers and twelves. 778 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean six brothers and six sisters, so I have 779 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: it's thirteen of us altogether. My sister had a child, 780 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: so it was about fourteen of us in the house 781 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: at one time. And a guy came to me and said, um, 782 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: if you want to have all these goodies that I 783 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: got here came into me a box of honey buns 784 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: and snacks and stuff like, Davia, if you want to 785 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: have this, you got to do what we say do 786 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: And I said, okay, I'm in. So I was somewhat 787 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: of a gang that walk around breaking in Greg cookie 788 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: trucks and stealing snacks out of him to provide for 789 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: the family at home and come home with a boxer 790 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: all kind of goodies. And uh, I was somewhat the 791 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: hero for the family. Now is that the small time 792 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: crook or the gang member? Which one is that? That's 793 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: the phone, that's the phone. That's a combination of both, 794 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: that's both. I was following, following the wrong people, doing 795 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: the wrong things, and uh, making some bad choices. Now, 796 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: how long did you make those bad choices? And who 797 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: snapped you out of those bad choices? Well, a white 798 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: teacher by the name of James Edge pulled me to 799 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: the side and taught me chest and kind of broke 800 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: the cycle over of taking and changed the cycle from 801 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: taking the giving and serving other people. So he taught 802 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: me chess and the think things through. Don't do the 803 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: first thing to pop in your head, right, and that's what. 804 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: That's what that's one of the true components of chest right, Yes, sir, okay, guy, 805 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: I think things through because one moon could call you 806 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: the game. Okay, now, okay, we've got people out there. 807 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,720 Speaker 1: What about dominoes? What about checkers? Well, checkers is okay, 808 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: but it's not as complicated and complex. Life is complex. 809 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,919 Speaker 1: So Chess and Mike are like in that. You got 810 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: black and white checkers. There's no queen on the board. 811 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: Chest The queen is on the board, and she's seven 812 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 1: times more powerful than the king, just like in life. Absolutely, absolutely, 813 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: And when they want to want to know, they want 814 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: to know what women shopping, they want to know what 815 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: television shows women are watching. They want to know what 816 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: they're buying, what are they thinking? The world is run 817 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: and make all the decisions. Absolutely, So that's what the 818 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: whole thought process of chess comes in. Okay. So so 819 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: now you're randing this this gentleman, he changed your life, 820 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: taught you chess. Now, how did you become a state trooper? I? Uh, 821 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: like I say, I became the state Alabama state troop 822 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: but applied and uh I never forget because I said 823 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: it was six hundred people took the test and instructor said, listen, 824 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: six hundred you gots taking the test. We only got 825 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: to hire a hundred. So we're gonna take the the 826 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: top how to test scores and we're gonna work from there. 827 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: So I tell kids all the time, make sure you 828 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: get the education because if you don't, if you don't 829 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: go high on FAM, guess what are you out. So 830 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: you got to be able to provide, you know, and 831 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: do well and score well. So I, you know, I 832 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: was like, I think I was number third or three, 833 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: So I was in so so so we went from 834 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: a small time crook slash gang member. Now you're a 835 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: state trooper. Now military came in your life, Air Force veteran. 836 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: How important was that role? Well, the Air Force is 837 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: very important because you know, you've got to serve our 838 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: country and we've got to try to do what we 839 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: can to help others, and the military and the State 840 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: troopers basically saying service protect. But I really, really, I'm 841 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: really expired by what I do. Now, what you're teaching 842 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: young people, brains before bullets and think it out and 843 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: don't shoot it at That's the main message I want 844 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: to get out to our young people. That there's a 845 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: better way to choose peace instead of violence. But all 846 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: that's part of your journey though. That's why I wanted 847 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, because you know, you're 848 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: such a good speaker and you're such a good motivator. 849 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear people on my show that 850 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: I brought the back to tell your story, because that 851 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: story the locks now why you have this passion, why 852 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: you can because as a state trooper, you've seen violence, 853 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: You've seen that journey, that note that did in journey 854 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: for so many youths that you're trying to save today. 855 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: And then when you went into the military, that was 856 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: a great option, but that still is tied to violence. 857 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: And so those two levels focused you now to who 858 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 1: you are are world right now, world renow Chess player. Yeah, well, 859 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 1: and mostly what I do is I teach children. Chess 860 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: is about studying what works. If you if you study 861 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: what works, okay, and if you do what works, you'll 862 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: you'll win. You'll win the game of life. But you've 863 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: got to study will work. That's all chess. The pattern recognition. 864 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: Once you know the pattern, you can play, you can prepare, 865 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: you could position and you predict, but Chess is nothing 866 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,919 Speaker 1: but recognizing patterns. Learn from every decision that you make, 867 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: and don't make the same mistake twice. Make the same 868 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: mistake twice, because who don't make the same mistake twice, 869 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Because chess won't allow you that option. Well, 870 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: you gotta learn. If you don't learn, if you get 871 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: checkmated on this game, then don't do the same move. 872 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, gonna make a smart move like watching the movie. 873 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: You watch a movie, you know how it ends, right, 874 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: So hey, we ain't doing that. So we ain't getting 875 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: in that cab. That cab hit the calle and that 876 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: movie ain't doing that. Now, now this all led to 877 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 1: your foundation be someone correct? Yes, now now it's that 878 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: I hope you see what I'm doing with this journey 879 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: because I want to tell your story, you know, you know, 880 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: because I know you quickly just motivates trying to come 881 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: up with but we gotta we got another break. We're 882 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: gonna do all that too. But I try to with 883 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: the show now is have a conversation with everybody. And 884 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: in that conversation that you have with a person like 885 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 1: you, you you know, with a brand so unique and chance 886 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: is a unique brand, and a lot of people don't 887 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: understand why. There's value and business in it and education 888 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: in it and life in it. And be Someone. It's 889 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 1: the focals. It is the basis of why you are 890 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: who you are, correct exactly. And chance is the game 891 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: of life because it's black and white and black and 892 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: white as the same. Don't play the blame game, play 893 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: the win, and it teaches you this is powerful lesson. 894 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: You have everything you need to succeed. You have your mind, 895 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: you have your ability, you have your talents, and you 896 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: have time. You could do. No one's better than you, 897 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: and you know better than anyone else. Use what you 898 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: have to get what you want. This chest that's like 899 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: and that's what that now? When when did you find 900 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: be someone? I found to be something. In one and 901 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: May May twenty and two thousand, seven people were shot 902 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,919 Speaker 1: on the robbery for two thousand dollars in Queen, New York. 903 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: And I said to myself, evil prevails when good people 904 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: do nothing. So I started a crime prevention program called 905 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: be Someone May twenty May May twenty four or two 906 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: thousand to teach people to think it out stid of 907 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: shoot it out, and also to teach people to cash 908 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: in knowledge, attitudes, skills and have it. Get this cash 909 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: because once you get this cast, this cash is king. Wow. 910 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna be right back with more of my man, 911 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: Mr Hudson, call him checkmate, talking about life changing, using 912 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: the using the game. And it may be simple to 913 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: others and may be complicated to others, but it's a 914 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: game of life that teaches you don't make the same mistake. 915 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: Why keep doing the same mistake over and over again? 916 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: And that's what people keep doing. They keep going to 917 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: work at the same job over and over again, keep 918 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: complaining about the same situation over and over again, or 919 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: keep dealing with the same relationship over and over again. 920 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 1: It's all complaints and my man, Mr Hudson, checkmate Hudson 921 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: will tell you how to get through it. We were 922 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations. Don't go nowhere, 923 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,720 Speaker 1: Mr Hudson, We're gonna be right back, my friend, Hide 924 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: this ra Sean McDonald. I'm back with more money making conversations. 925 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: It's a show that allows you to listen to industry 926 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: decision makers, ceo, small businesses and celebrities as they tell 927 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: you the secret to success, motivate you to win. Take 928 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: you down the lane of a lane of knowledge that 929 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: you made, not not being aware of. I guess what 930 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: you knew? It just a refresh your course on the 931 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: phone right there, Mr Rang, checkmate Hudson, how you doing? 932 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: Or oh man? Like I say, I'm just thank god 933 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm here with you. Today is the best day in 934 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: my life. I get to hang out with Dr McDonald. 935 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: He's all that interfact of ship. My man, here's the deal. 936 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 1: You started in two thousands and you've trained over fifty 937 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: five thousand students. Mm hmm. My goal is a million, 938 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: so I have a long way to go. I'm in 939 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: l A right now, training kids and some adults, teaching 940 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: them how to think and don't do the first thing 941 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: that popped in your head. The first thing that popped 942 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 1: in your head is usually a trap. So I teach 943 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: six magic words. They started with a teeth. Very pal, 944 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: take time to think things through. It's this true, It's 945 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: just honest. Is this the best move I can make? 946 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: Make every move your best move? Now, when you say 947 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 1: you in l A training, tell me how did that 948 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: come about? And what is actually is the training? Tell 949 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: us how it came about? You got your tell and 950 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: what is the training that you're doing well. I'm every 951 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 1: time I speak, I get people that I spoke for 952 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce, uh, the California Chamber of Commerce, 953 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: and I did a lunching there and then for one 954 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: of the people there or whatever, and then a lot 955 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: of people came up one of my business cars. So 956 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: it just just snowballs into that and I get speaking 957 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: opportunity to next thing, you know, Disney called me. Then 958 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: the next thing you know, uh, Jane found a call me. 959 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: The next thing you know, type of Perry calling. Then 960 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: the next thing you know, uh did call I mean 961 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: just people call me because oh you just gonna throw 962 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: he stopped and let stop stop or stop You're just 963 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: gonna throw our Jane found the name like that's regular hump. 964 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: You should gonna throw our Tyler Perry name like that's regular. Huh. 965 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: He just had the number one movie at the box 966 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: always Bootoo. Now you ain't gonna do me like that. 967 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: Mr Huts. You're gonna call my show and act like 968 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: these just regular funds? Did you throw it out? Like 969 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: my cousin next door just up and gas my car. 970 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: That means you haven't. I mean that's different. There are 971 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: people who feel that you make an impactful difference in 972 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: people's lives. Man, And that's why I owe a lot 973 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: of that to you, my brother. You kind of open 974 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of door you myself. Now you you you 975 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: bring it, You bring a lot of the things. You know. 976 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: You said something I'll never forget you said. You know 977 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: what you people pay you to use your mind, and 978 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: you use your mind to starve problems. And I honor 979 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 1: you for saying that because that's basically what I'm about 980 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: teaching young people to get your head in the game. 981 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: The only thing that can take you to your goals 982 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: your head. And that's absolutely true. And that's why. You know. 983 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: The thing I like about our conversations is that you 984 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: know you are. You are a motivator, and you're a 985 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: person that stays in front of people. Always tell people 986 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,439 Speaker 1: to be successful or to make your competition aware who 987 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: you are. I always tell people say it's a it's 988 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: a driving technique of stand in front of somebody's bumper. 989 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 1: See if your car is in on the bumper of 990 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: your competitor, that means you're in front of them and 991 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: they got to figure out how to get around you. 992 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 1: So your coold goal the motivation is to stay in 993 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 1: front of them. And so that's what you've done, you know, 994 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: whether whether inviting you out to the Steve Harvey camp 995 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: or seeing you in New York and you said, Rashan, 996 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: you're always telling me, Rashan, I'm doing to this, Rashan, 997 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: I can do this for you. You're always pitching, pitching 998 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: positive angles because in the end, you're you're teaching. You're 999 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: teaching things to us that we would ignore if you 1000 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: didn't pitch your tours. You know, you know what I'm saying, 1001 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,479 Speaker 1: because because you know, chess is a game that few 1002 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: people recognize outside of it being a board game, and 1003 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: you're telling us, Rashawn, stop the madness. Chess is a 1004 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: game of life. Board playing on the board is just 1005 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: one of the techniques. But if you take those same 1006 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 1: principles and apply to your small business, if you take 1007 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: the same principle and apply to your if you're a 1008 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: student in college, if you take those same principles and 1009 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: apply in your relationship, it all works correct exactly, and 1010 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 1: you know that you have everything you need to win. 1011 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,919 Speaker 1: You know, don't play the blame game, play the win 1012 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: you have. You know you can do this. You can 1013 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 1: do it here and you can do it now. Surround 1014 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: your stuff around people who can elevate your game. If 1015 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: you don't know how to play chair, just hang with me. 1016 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: Come to my free workshop I'm doing on December twin 1017 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 1: the first. It's gonna be free food, free training, free everything. 1018 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 1: Come and learn from me. I'm gonna draw back the 1019 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 1: curtain and I'm gonna show you how to be one 1020 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: of the top Russian grand masters in the world. I'm 1021 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: gonna show you how I did that. I'm gonna pull 1022 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: back to curtain. Check me, I'm check check me. Hold up, now, 1023 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: you said the word free. You said December twenty first, 1024 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: right right, Free food, free training, free everything, free parking, 1025 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: everything's free. Gonna be at is gonna be at the 1026 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: Stone Mountain Events Center, uh uh and uh seventeen fifty 1027 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: Stone Stone Chris Drive. But it's gonna be on my website, 1028 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: on my Facebook page I have in Atlanta, Georgia. That's 1029 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: the key. It's in Atlanta, is actually Stone mount and 1030 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: Stone Ridge Event Center. It's gonna be from seven pm 1031 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: to nine thirty at night. It's gonna be Thursday night 1032 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: Life Skill Chip now through Stone Mountain is right, it's 1033 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: really Atlanta, Georgia. So he wants to ride on that 1034 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: Stone Mountain. See, I'm a promoter. See that's what I do. 1035 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: See he's brilliant at this chest and changing your life. 1036 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm brilliant and telling you how to get there. Oh 1037 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: I told him at nor a Stone Mountain. Don't be 1038 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: arguing with me Atlanta, Georgia. And see if you if 1039 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: you listen to my show in Birmingham, making a Columbia, 1040 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 1: South Carolina or Charlotte, you may not know what Stone Mountain, 1041 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: Georgia at, but you definitely know where Atlanta, George is at. 1042 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: And now tell us about your website. The name your 1043 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: website so we can go there and get some information there. 1044 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: You gonna be someone dot org. It's a website I 1045 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: came up with it ain't be someone because Aprilham Leak 1046 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 1: and his mother. Her last words on the planet before 1047 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: she died, the April Ham was be someone. And even 1048 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 1: though Aprilham had failed eight times from the public office, 1049 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: he took those two words be someone and became sixteen 1050 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: president and United Space. All I'm doing now is empowering 1051 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: our young people to be someone. Be all God created 1052 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: you to be and never settled for less than you 1053 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: can be. Wow. So you used to use a quick 1054 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: example of failure overcoming failure, And that's really what it's about. Really, 1055 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: I know that when I go through my life, when 1056 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 1: I go through life, I always tell my daughter, look, 1057 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: I have failed in life. I would remind her I 1058 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 1: I If you go through my college transcript, you might 1059 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 1: see my name on different plaques around the University of 1060 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,439 Speaker 1: Houston and all that stuff. You might see my name 1061 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: on scholarship programs and and being honored. I have an 1062 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: ELF on my transcript at the University of Houston and physics, 1063 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: and that's important to let people know that there is failure, 1064 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: but failure doesn't need It's not the way to stop you. 1065 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,280 Speaker 1: Will not stop you if you unless you give you power. 1066 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,959 Speaker 1: And that's what you're just saying all the time. Every 1067 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: time I talk to you, check me. Every time I 1068 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: talk to you, you always talking about moving forward, moving forward, 1069 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: taking the next step up the stairways, you know, not 1070 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: ever stopping. But people stop themselves all the time. And 1071 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: it makes me mad. Exactly if I would say, a 1072 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: good man will fall down seven times, get back up 1073 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: eight So make it okay to fail There's no such 1074 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: thing as failures, only information, and every master was one 1075 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: of disaster. Failure makes you better. I went to the 1076 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: World Open, and I'll never get to feel that your food. 1077 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: To the World Open, and I lost my first game 1078 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: I went there, I lost my second game, lost my third, 1079 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: lost eighth straight game. And but that's okay. It makes 1080 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: me better. And what are they to beat me? I played? 1081 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: I went back and I said okay, and he beat me, 1082 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: and I thought okay, and I beat him the next time. 1083 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: I came back and I realized that fairier makes you better, 1084 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: and you know, and you got to embrace Fairier. Every 1085 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: disappointment is a blessing. Life. This game is fixed. This 1086 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: game is fixed in your favorite, This life is fixed 1087 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: in your favorite. Every disappointment is a blessing. Every disappointment 1088 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: put you on the right path to where you need 1089 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: to be. Oprah Winfrey beat out Um. Oprah Winfrey was beating. 1090 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, her name is Um. What's the 1091 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: channel to Monica Pearson? Monica Pearson beat out Jane Pauley 1092 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: and Oprah Winfrey to get the channel to spot for 1093 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: the job in Tama two. But that's just she just 1094 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: got beat there. It made her better, It made okay, 1095 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: I lost that. I had to get that, I had 1096 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: to get better and go back. So but but Monica Parison, 1097 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: I love her and I was on her show. She 1098 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: beat out Jane Pauli and Oprah Wortha. So everybody's gonna 1099 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: fail embrace failure. Failure is your friends. Well, I would 1100 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: tell you this. Monica Pearson is uh the very popular 1101 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: anchorwoman in Atlanta, Georgia. See, I gotta talk to checkmate 1102 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: because he'd be talking like we just broadcasting in Atlanta. 1103 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: On the here he acts like we ain't own National 1104 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: or nothing like that. So I gotta gotta clear up 1105 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot of his conversation. Let everybody you know, you know, 1106 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: Challenge To Texas NBC, child Too in New York City 1107 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: is CBS, so you need to know what's going on 1108 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: in challen To in Atlanta, Georgia is CBS. So people 1109 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: just don't know you should be throwing out that information. 1110 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, ABC is in Atlanta, Georgia. So when you 1111 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: say all these success stories, and I'm gonna just tell 1112 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: people this, failure is the best motivation in the world. 1113 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: But what you cannot do with failure is accepted as 1114 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: a final choice, your final option, and whenever I talk 1115 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: to you, and this is about businesses that open wrong. 1116 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: They fail because they don't do what they're supposed to. 1117 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: They don't plan like you're talking about in the game. 1118 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: And I'm just letting you guys know that when I 1119 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: bring guests like or and on my show, you might go, 1120 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about chess. They've got nothing to do with me. 1121 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: It does. It's about planning. It's about seeing the thoughts out, 1122 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: not making the first move, thinking through the thought process, 1123 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: understanding that these patterns for success have to be worked out, 1124 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: they have to be detailed. If you fail, don't walk 1125 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: away thinking it's the end of the world. That is 1126 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: what this interview is about. It's about recognizing patterns of recognition. Amy, 1127 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying Or, I'm trying to get them there, man, 1128 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get them. I'm using all kinds of 1129 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: techniques getting all the time because of the pattern. Here's 1130 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: the main pattern to put money in anybody. If you're 1131 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: listening to this, you'll make a million dollars. The pattern 1132 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: that you do to put money in your thone it 1133 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: comes from the phone, is by the average right man 1134 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: it says we're to be in all maybe maybe one 1135 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: than that. It says the average white being. It said, 1136 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: the sooner you give, the sooner you get the half 1137 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: uh love of your Oh. The sooner you give as 1138 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: sooner you get to have. Just be a giver. You 1139 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: cannot get in trouble forgiving. You only can get a 1140 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: get in trouble for taking. So just be a giver. 1141 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: And the sooner you give, the sooner you get to have. Well, 1142 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: I tell you that's what money making conversations all about. 1143 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Because I'm here to guild man. And before we go, 1144 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: you're being honored on November eight correct, Yeah, being honored 1145 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: on November eighteen, but now in Atlanta, Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia, 1146 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: at the highest um, at the highest regency and being 1147 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: honor that. But I got some better news than that 1148 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,439 Speaker 1: in two eight Michelle Obama gonna be there, So that's 1149 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: maybe even better. But it's all good either way, my man. 1150 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: I want to thank you as always, you're regular on 1151 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: my show, you know that now, and I want to 1152 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: thank you for you say nice things about me and all. 1153 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: But more important, I want to thank you for being 1154 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: a giver because you understand the principles of success are 1155 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 1: tied to how much you give, not how much you take. 1156 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: Correct exactly, be a service, sir people. Jesus said, Uh, 1157 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: if you want to be great, you gotta be a giver, 1158 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: and the greatest among you should be the servants of 1159 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 1: them all. So, sir people, give first, give and advance 1160 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: and walk away. Because God is love and love me 1161 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: to give what I expecting anything in return. Before we go, 1162 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: give out that website one more time. W w w 1163 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: B someone dot org. I'm gonna be getting an award 1164 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: on November eight, teens is a high regency. Um, I 1165 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: can't google me and to come up, but God is good. 1166 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,439 Speaker 1: And then also December twenty one, I'm gonna be doing 1167 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: a free workshop, free food, free parking, free training, getting 1168 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: a game like this chest and not checkers. My cat 1169 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: can play checkers, so we gotta change the game. I 1170 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: am a game changer. Remember, brother, I'll talk to you soon, 1171 01:02:54,160 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: my friend. We'll be right back with more money making conversations. Hi, 1172 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: just from Sean McDonald. Back with money making conversations before 1173 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: we get to a Big six barbecue. And my nephew, 1174 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: that's my nephew. I'm gonna be just nepotism. Now I'm 1175 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: take care of my family. I want to talk to 1176 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: my man Zante. You're calling that about those prayer of 1177 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: prayer of you and them home comic tickets my home 1178 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: coming Now come on, now what are the colors? The 1179 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: colors of school colors? A prayer off you and them 1180 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,959 Speaker 1: royal purple and gold. I'll make as five baby qute 1181 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 1: to the day I die. Come on, now, come on. 1182 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: That's all right, brother, But you got the home coming tickets. 1183 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. Brother. Thank you for 1184 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: calling my friend and they got all the information already. Correct. Well, 1185 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: you're in Georgia's games if we can appreciate you calling 1186 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: it on money making conversation and my man keep winning. Okay, 1187 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 1: all day, thank you. Okay, let's go on to my 1188 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: next interview on money making conversation. My next guest is 1189 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the United States Army veteran and then own a Big 1190 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: six barbecue. He's my net. You please work on the 1191 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: money making conversation. Look, John Domino Stewart wing On, Hey, 1192 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: my man, you know we just used at the house yesterday. 1193 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: We were talking about business plans, so you know we'd 1194 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: be in the mix on a regular basis about this business. 1195 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: So before we get started. You know, you have a 1196 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 1: very successful business called big says Bob Q. How was 1197 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: it affected by Hurricane Harvey? Um? We was. We was 1198 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: uh hurt tremendously. Um. Actually, Uh, the whole trailer was 1199 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 1: told out. Storm whipped back my roof and water just 1200 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 1: came in through the roof and told off everything, all 1201 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,479 Speaker 1: my equipment, all my supply. So I pretty much lost 1202 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: my whole trailer. Now what did you do smart here 1203 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: in this whole process? You know, what were smart things 1204 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: that you did to help you to recover? First of all, um, 1205 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: I would like you know, thanks to God, without him 1206 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: learning this would be possible. Um, well to you as 1207 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: being my mentor. I gave you a call first, you know, 1208 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: and uh, because I didn't know what to turn about. 1209 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: It took me nearly two weeks to realize that A, 1210 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: you know what you're in a situation. You know you've 1211 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: been a victim of this disaster as well. So I 1212 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: reached out to you. But you gave me some great 1213 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: ideas and points and uh I wanted to head and 1214 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,479 Speaker 1: apply for the SBA loan, right, but you did something 1215 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: smart before that. You had insurance. Oh yes, most definitely 1216 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I had insurance. Anybody, if you're going into a business, 1217 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: you want to protect your assets, you know, And that's 1218 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 1: one thing that I wanted to do is to take 1219 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: my access assets. Had insurance, which uh I was covering 1220 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,439 Speaker 1: on that. So I'm just at the waiting period right now. 1221 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Uh you know how my case is going to resolve 1222 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 1: at the end. But also but you're not waiting. That's 1223 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: why you also apply for the SBA Disaster loan. Correct, 1224 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: yesdir I did. I thought for that because I didn't 1225 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: know this this this process is gonna take this long. 1226 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Uh just took some lester steps. Uh just just think 1227 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: taste just to give my process lowing, because it's not 1228 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I'll just be sitting here waiting and nothing never happened. Yeah, 1229 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: So it means being proactive is the key in this conversation. Correct, 1230 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: almost definitely. You have to. You can't just stop and 1231 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: just give up. You got to keep on pushing, uh 1232 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: because you have people out there that's uh looking forward 1233 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: to who wash your products, So you've got to keep 1234 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: on supplying that. Well, let's talk about that product man 1235 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: that Bobby q O can ever tell you somebody he 1236 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: though I love the real tips. I love the brisket 1237 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: I love, but I love the link sauces. I love 1238 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 1: the peach cobbler. I love the potato salad. I love 1239 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: the bike bees with the meat in it, the big 1240 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Bee with the meeting something. You know, I'm saying all 1241 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: these things because he brought none of that by my 1242 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: house yesterday. So when he walked in, the dough I 1243 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: was he brought. He brought macro on the cheese, he 1244 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: brought the jams, and he brought heat fried turkey. Now 1245 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: all that was good, but he didn't bring none of 1246 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: the stuff. But I mentioned so I was looking at 1247 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: him across the table, just stand at him. Oh this 1248 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: is good, ain't there? Yeah, it's good, but I show 1249 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 1: So next time he comes by my house, and he 1250 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 1: telled me he gonna bring some food, I'm gonna have 1251 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 1: to ask him what he gonna bring, because what he 1252 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 1: ain't gonna do and come by my house and frustrate 1253 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: me with alternative good food. I want the food that 1254 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,439 Speaker 1: I was like, manna get that potato salad. I'm gonna 1255 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: get them big bees. I'm gonna get that white bread. 1256 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 1: He didn't bring the white bread. Evening the white brad. 1257 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: I was jocoling looking at him, but you know, the 1258 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 1: beautiful wife was there. My wife was there, so I sustained. 1259 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: His business partner, Cmo was there, so I sustained myself 1260 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: and kept calm. But I'm gonna tell you something. You 1261 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 1: come by my house one more time and you don't 1262 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: have big beans with the little meat in it. And 1263 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: then that potato salad that I don't know how you 1264 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: make it, but you make it. And that peach cobbler 1265 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: and you know, with the with the crust, and then 1266 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: when you dig in there you get some peaches and 1267 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: you got the syrup around it, and you got the 1268 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 1: crust on top of it. Man, and the real tips 1269 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: that when you crushed down on it, you feel this 1270 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: a little bone. But you crushed that grizzle in and 1271 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: ware and you just gonna make it happen. And the 1272 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: ribs and that link. And then boy, your wife and 1273 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 1: told you how to do that chicken. Now your wife 1274 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: had told you I'll do that chicken. Now, I'm just 1275 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: telling y'all, folks, I'm a dreamland. But he can't bring 1276 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: nothing about my house yesterday. He can bring nothing. But 1277 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 1: so let's talk about these defried turkeys that you got 1278 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 1: coming out for the month of nove But tell us 1279 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 1: about that because that's awesome because I ate some of 1280 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: it yesterday. Well, I mean, yes, uh, you got right 1281 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: now you can pre order, uh, go to website, to 1282 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: our website which is ww dot Big six Barbecue does 1283 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 1: b I G the number six b A R b 1284 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: que dot com and you can on right now or 1285 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: the pre order online uh from fried turkey or smoked turkey, 1286 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: uh with the turkey being ejected with butter occasion injection. 1287 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 1: So right now we're just we're pushing the turkeys for 1288 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: the holidays. We know that's coming up, and we just 1289 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are busy, too busy to 1290 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 1: do things, and we want to bring that traditional wonderful 1291 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: bird onto your your table for your family. And you 1292 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about anything. Now. If you don't 1293 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,839 Speaker 1: want to go to the website, call this number seven 1294 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 1: one three five three zero to six eight. That's seven 1295 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: one three five three zero eight to six eight. Then 1296 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: inquiry about you know, deep fried turkey. You know, don't 1297 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: you go out there outside your house drop that turkey 1298 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 1: in there and they fall over and burn down your 1299 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,600 Speaker 1: house or your scald the dog or you or they 1300 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: fall on your feet and then you cripple for the 1301 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: rest of your life because you're out there trying to 1302 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 1: defied turkey. I've seen it all happen. Just go to 1303 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: the website type in deep fried turkey disasters and it's 1304 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 1: like a show of ignorance. And so this man is 1305 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 1: a professional. So for you jump out there and just 1306 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: try to inject these God, this is a man. I 1307 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: know more people people listen to me, or I could 1308 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,559 Speaker 1: do that myself. Be over there, gotta be in one 1309 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: hand and ten gallons of hot grease, peanut all grease 1310 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 1: and the other and then set it outside. It's kind 1311 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: of on some dirt. So really, if that, if that, 1312 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: if that, if that, if they wait hits a little 1313 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 1: sauce spot, they're gonna start leaning, so they ain't gonna 1314 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: notice the lean. Or if they knows the lean, it's 1315 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 1: all good. It's all good until somebody walked by there bumpet, 1316 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: then the turkey and the ground. You got dirt on 1317 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: the turkey. But what they're gonna do. They're gonna get 1318 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 1: the water holes and try to clean off the turkey. Now, 1319 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 1: this is what you do at Big six. You call 1320 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Big six Barbecue and he's gonna take care of you. 1321 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: Here's the number. One more time seven one three five 1322 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: three zero eight two sixty eight. Now I want to 1323 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 1: just let everybody know. I brought up the fact that 1324 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 1: you remember you are you always will be a member. 1325 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: You're veteran or United States Army and so. But you 1326 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: have something called or disabled veteran own small business. What 1327 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 1: exactly is that? Uh, that's that's correct, um UM certified 1328 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,640 Speaker 1: the service disabled own small business. Basically, it means that 1329 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I can have, uh, I'm to have government contracts, anything 1330 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: you that's involved with the government to do. And that's 1331 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 1: what you're headed in your life, you know, just as 1332 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 1: a small business to be able to start expanding. You 1333 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: you got one trailer. You're gonna get past this here 1334 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: A K. Harvey. You know, we gotta plan we get 1335 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: past this and when you get back up, trailer gonna 1336 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 1: be brand new. When is the trailer gonna open up? 1337 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Any time frame? Yes, sir, we're looking at the time 1338 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 1: frame or DC. Do you sent the thirteenth to be 1339 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: reopened back at UPO seven Highways six We're gonna be 1340 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,679 Speaker 1: reopened then as well. In uh, January two th eighteen. 1341 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna do a grand opening and if people want 1342 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: to follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, they can 1343 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 1: and keep up in the loop. What's going on with 1344 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 1: Big six Barbecue. So let men ask you this. Now, 1345 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 1: you would preferred vendor. I'm gonna ask you a question 1346 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: that you preferred vendor for the Houston Texas. Yes, sir, 1347 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,799 Speaker 1: we we are. We are preferred vendor for the Houston 1348 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Texas football games. Um, we're We're set up right there 1349 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 1: on the blue lights when the aster Doome in the 1350 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: n RG Stadium in the College of the Sandfest which 1351 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 1: people can bring the family, uh there and enjoy some 1352 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: activities before they go into the game and get some 1353 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 1: reasonable prices for their food. Now you just said that 1354 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 1: like that was just like everybody got a little place 1355 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 1: out there. So I'm gonna get on you just like 1356 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 1: I got on Orang Hutton when he was Holly Night, 1357 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,720 Speaker 1: Jane Fonding, Tyler Perry just to Houston Texas. Now you 1358 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: preferred vendor Big Six, BOBBYE qu little O my nephew, 1359 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: United States Army Vedomer. Yeah, preferred vendor, your preferred vendor 1360 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:36,680 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texas. This true? Blessing and what's that 1361 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,480 Speaker 1: number again? They gotta call and get them them defied 1362 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 1: turkeys that you inject with that butter, and that if 1363 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 1: they want the butter, they get the occasion injection to 1364 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: come on now, Yes, sir, the number is seven one three, 1365 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 1: five zero eight to six eight. And like I said, 1366 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: you can go to the website as well and play 1367 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 1: pre order, place your order for the turkeys and that 1368 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 1: will ty w W dot B I G the number 1369 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: six B A R B qu E dot com. My man, 1370 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 1: I want to thank you, agous. I'm gonna see you 1371 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 1: this weekend coming up because we gotta get this plan 1372 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,879 Speaker 1: in place for this reopening, get these budgets together. Everything 1373 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 1: is awesome. I love you. I'm proud of you. Hey man, 1374 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: you know but you know, if you come by my 1375 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 1: house next weekend, okay, you know what you got to 1376 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 1: have my little nephew. If you don't have that, I 1377 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: don't have a dog, but I'm gonna find somebody's dog 1378 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood and sick them on you. All right. 1379 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 1: I love you, man, Stay strong again, Big six Barbeque. 1380 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: That hotline number seven one three, five three zero eight 1381 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 1: two six eight seven one three five three zero eight 1382 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 1: two six eight. Actually that's his seal phall the man 1383 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: trying to get He wants you to call him right now. 1384 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Hey brother, you stay strong. We talked next week. Bless you, 1385 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: my friend. Cool. Hi, This ra Sean McDonald. Welcome back 1386 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation, broadcasting live from Houston, Texas on 1387 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 1: fourteen eighty. You can also hear my show in the 1388 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 1: very popular Our Heart Radio podcast just goal our Heart 1389 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Radio type in the search call of money Making Conversations, 1390 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 1: and you will hear all the shows that have been 1391 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 1: on money Making Conversations, including this show. And I also 1392 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,800 Speaker 1: break them down into a little second segment interviews so 1393 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: you can hear them specially and just pass them around 1394 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 1: and share them and all that good stuff. But my 1395 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,679 Speaker 1: guest today, I'm excited. I'm excited about all my guests. 1396 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: But in the literary world, you know, I'm all right, 1397 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sitcom right. So that is nowhere close to 1398 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 1: what these two people do. And they are power couple. 1399 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 1: When I say power couple, New York Times labeled them 1400 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: as the most successful literary couple in America, and they're 1401 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: doing everything to maintain that type. Please welcome to money 1402 01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 1: making conversation Ashley and Jaquavers col Hey, how you doing? 1403 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: My brother to be off? First of all, thank you, 1404 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: because you know I read the book until I read 1405 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: the book, The Cartail seven Round Table of the Bosses. 1406 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,640 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is that, you know, if 1407 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: you want to quiz me, you know you can quiz me. 1408 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: You know you don't know about C. J. Mole. You 1409 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,879 Speaker 1: know we can't go in details, but I know, Breeze, 1410 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,320 Speaker 1: you tell him. I tell what they've been when them 1411 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,760 Speaker 1: in jail. I can tell you about the Dominican Republic. 1412 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out some stuff to let them know. 1413 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: I know, you know what I'm saying. You know, you 1414 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 1: wanna talk about that drug, I wanna talk about my 1415 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 1: man goes Hey, don't don't don't don't go that with me. 1416 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 1: Let y'all know, I did my homework and the and 1417 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 1: the beauty of the book I'm gonna tell you about 1418 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,560 Speaker 1: because uh I got the book, you know, on Saturday, 1419 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 1: and I read it all day Sunday and it was 1420 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: a good read. It was a good read. And I 1421 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: want to before we even get into detail about the book, 1422 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 1: I'll just read this this statement that I pulled offline 1423 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 1: about the book. The sag of Love, Loyalty, and Crime 1424 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 1: continues in the next explosive book in the Cartel series, 1425 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,320 Speaker 1: from the minds of New York Times bestselling authors Ashley 1426 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,600 Speaker 1: and to Quaalus. After the Tragic and Blooded into the 1427 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Cartel's reign, Carter is forced into isolation to evade to law. 1428 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: With his wife facing federal charges and his dear brother 1429 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 1: six ft under, Carter has never been more alone, his 1430 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 1: empire at his feet, and there's no idea how to 1431 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,640 Speaker 1: rebuild his kingdom. The only thing that is certain is 1432 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 1: that he has to stay out of the way and 1433 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,719 Speaker 1: off the radar of the fads until he can, Until 1434 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 1: he can figure out how to get his lady out 1435 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 1: of prison. Her freedom is guaranteed. Provided car to help 1436 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 1: create and distribute a drug that would take the streets 1437 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 1: by storm. Rubbing elbows with the most notorious, ruthless leaders 1438 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 1: of the underworld will get him what he wants, but 1439 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: he can win it. But he doesn't know whether he 1440 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: can win the game of murder or money. That's what 1441 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 1: this book about. See see see I'm gonna teach you 1442 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: The reason I read that because I'm a fan of 1443 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,719 Speaker 1: knockles have Have y'all seen that? Seriously? Yeah? Yeah, okay, 1444 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 1: come on now see see see. So you know when 1445 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 1: I read this book May, I was going, man, y'all, yeah, 1446 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 1: y'all been okay, first of all, I'm a I'm a 1447 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: look site. Let me calm down, let's start. Let's let's 1448 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 1: start from again. In Flip, Michigan. You know you fifteen? 1449 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:38,679 Speaker 1: You sixteen? Was the police stop you? Okay? Harassing you? Now? Astley, 1450 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 1: you noticed this, You see all this going down? The 1451 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 1: police accused you of dealing in drugs? Correct Quavers? Yeah? Yeah, 1452 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,719 Speaker 1: they was on me. I was actually surfing the undercover 1453 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 1: agent for about two weeks. So um yeah, it was 1454 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 1: the open play for the underplay. They were setting me 1455 01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 1: up now now but it was all wrong. But so 1456 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 1: after they let you go, Ashley, you called him correct, Yeah, 1457 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: he talked his package in my bushes and I thought, 1458 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 1: so I went and got it out of the bushes 1459 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 1: before the police searched them, and then I called him. 1460 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 1: We had a mutual friend, right right, right, It's just 1461 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 1: like a book. We actually used this, I know, you know, 1462 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 1: I know all that get to my interview. I got 1463 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 1: my research on both of y'all. I'm not gonna come 1464 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 1: on this show and act like I don't know who 1465 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking to. Man, we appreciated my brother. But listen, Maye, 1466 01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 1: just it started the union that would last. Well. We 1467 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 1: we've been together with sixteen years. Man, Um, I was 1468 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 1: running from the cops, man, and she literally saved my life. Man. 1469 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: She you know, she threw I'm sorry when I threw 1470 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 1: what I had in the bushes. Man, she she picked 1471 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,719 Speaker 1: it up and she put it up for me for later. 1472 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 1: So you know, we're from from Michigan, Rashaan Man, So 1473 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 1: that means, you know, loyalty has to be earned. But 1474 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,559 Speaker 1: I don't love this girl because within the first day 1475 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 1: I met her, she showed me loyalty and that's something 1476 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 1: that I wasn't used to. You know that that kind 1477 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: of started the friendship and that friendship maturity into a relationship, 1478 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 1: and then later that relationship Um turned into a partnership. 1479 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,799 Speaker 1: Man together, you know, we were families. You know. It's interesting, 1480 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 1: you know that because you know, you guys from Flip Michigan, 1481 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: that's basically an inner city, and they come out of 1482 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 1: that with with with a with a strong literary sense, 1483 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 1: you know, because I. You know, I tell people like, 1484 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, when I came out of high school, you know, 1485 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 1: I was an honor student, and I took all honors classes, 1486 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: but I didn't really care about English. And I remember 1487 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 1: when I went to college, I had to take remedial 1488 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,639 Speaker 1: English to qualify because I didn't care. I didn't care. 1489 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,679 Speaker 1: I didn't know the subject her now and I didn't 1490 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: know the sequence of what would make a sentence and 1491 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: a preposition and all those things because I didn't realize 1492 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: the importance of it. And that's why, that's why it's 1493 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 1: important when I hear you guys in along the way. 1494 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 1: In in middle school, english and literacy was important because, 1495 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: like I said, when I was in middle school, I read, 1496 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, I read I read uh uh Lord of 1497 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 1: the Rings when I was in middle school, and that 1498 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 1: book was like nine hundred pages. And so I I 1499 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,200 Speaker 1: say that to say that you guys play an important role. 1500 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:17,640 Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I brought you on 1501 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 1: the show and I hopefully become friends and just constantly 1502 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 1: communicated on a regular basis, because it's important that reading 1503 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 1: really is fundamental, man, absolutely absolutely, and telling stories that 1504 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 1: you guys are telling. That's why I want to let 1505 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 1: everybody know that, yeah, I'm a sitcom writer. You guys 1506 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 1: are true storytellers. And that's really important because when I 1507 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 1: was reading the book from the opening when they're on 1508 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 1: the private jet and you know, I'm not gonna tell 1509 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 1: a story because we were trying to sell books. We're 1510 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,080 Speaker 1: not trying to give away the book, you know, you know, 1511 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 1: but all those things I'm just telling you guys, when 1512 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,800 Speaker 1: you read their books and they got they got an 1513 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 1: interesting style because they do transitional time frames. You know, 1514 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 1: you've been this time period, and then they're a key 1515 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,799 Speaker 1: back to to tell you the journey how that moment 1516 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,160 Speaker 1: came up to this point and and it's really interesting. 1517 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 1: How did you guys develop your writing style? Um? Well, 1518 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 1: I firmly believe that being a writer, you can't be 1519 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: a writer without being a reader first. So I first 1520 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 1: state was actually out of Borders about a Borders book stores. Right, 1521 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 1: that's a prerecordisite. You have to fall in love with 1522 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 1: storytelling in general, and through doing that, we both really 1523 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 1: love to read as young kids. So through doing that, 1524 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 1: we wanted to write stories that people could relate to, 1525 01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:39,679 Speaker 1: that people could find in just okay, when we were 1526 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 1: young there were no stories or characters that looked like us, 1527 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 1: that sounded like us, or that we're from the areas 1528 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 1: that we wanted to change that landscape in literature. So 1529 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 1: now we're writing, we're forty books in. We've contributed space 1530 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,599 Speaker 1: on the shelves by African American people for African American people. 1531 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Right right, I was reading this article. I've took some 1532 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 1: be I thought there's some very important articles. There's just 1533 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: New York Times magazine article written in urban fiction or 1534 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 1: streetlet has been snubbed by the publishing industry and scorned 1535 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,760 Speaker 1: by the black intellectuals. Yet these authors may just be 1536 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: the most successful literary couple in America. So when I 1537 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 1: write that, when I say that because I know as 1538 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 1: a writer, as an entertainer, people can make judgment on 1539 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,960 Speaker 1: people and don't even know the the end goal and 1540 01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: end goal is about writing creative concepts and storylines that 1541 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 1: are relatable. Isn't that correct? Yeah? Absolutely? Man? See is 1542 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: I love to use that analogy like the roles that 1543 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:46,760 Speaker 1: grows from concrete. When a person or a black intellectual 1544 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,840 Speaker 1: looks at this roles and they see all the torn 1545 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,200 Speaker 1: pedals and the thorns, they look at it as that 1546 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 1: like this ugly rose, but they do not take into 1547 01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 1: the acount of tenacity of that role to grow through 1548 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: that concrete. And it's a reason why it has those 1549 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 1: broken pedals and thorns. And that's how we look at 1550 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 1: our style of writing. They look at it like it's 1551 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 1: something that's but needs a literature, but it's not. It's 1552 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 1: where we came from. We're products of our environment and 1553 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,920 Speaker 1: we made it beautiful. Like at first they talked about it, 1554 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 1: but then they began to like give us accolaides and 1555 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,519 Speaker 1: honor what we was doing. That was the plan from 1556 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 1: the beginning. Man, there you go. We kept on putting 1557 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 1: out quality product um and kept on being consistent and 1558 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 1: those frowns begin to turn into collapse. And um, that's 1559 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,639 Speaker 1: where we're at now. Man. We're thirty two years old. Man, 1560 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 1: and wow, and we made history. Man, We're gonna keep 1561 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 1: on home making it. You know, I'm gonna tell you something. 1562 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who the black intellectual else, but I 1563 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: am a black intellectual. If there's a club out there, 1564 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 1: every shot McDonald's in that club. Okay, you know I 1565 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,519 Speaker 1: got in me sitting on the shell, I got I 1566 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,040 Speaker 1: got image Awards sitting on my shell. I just sold 1567 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 1: four million books for Harpercollus. I didn't put two blockbuster 1568 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,759 Speaker 1: movies in the theater. I'm gonna tell you'll, some young people, 1569 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 1: don't ever let nobody tell you who you are. Don't 1570 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 1: ever let nobody tell you what you're exposed to do 1571 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,160 Speaker 1: if they don't understand your journey, understand the shoes that 1572 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 1: you walk in. I'm telling you, I picked that book up. 1573 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: I didn't put it down. I went and got me 1574 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,480 Speaker 1: a couple of sandwiches, and I would eat my sandwiches 1575 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 1: and and I put it down. And my wife said, 1576 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: you don't watch the football game. I didn't watch no 1577 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,599 Speaker 1: football game on Sunday because because I'm gonna just tell 1578 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 1: you something, I enjoyed the storytelling. I enjoyed the and 1579 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep telling everybody because now I gotta go 1580 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,599 Speaker 1: back and read the series now because it's interesting in 1581 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 1: my life. Because you know, like I told you, in 1582 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,680 Speaker 1: middle school, I read, read, read, and then when I 1583 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 1: got out of the middle school, I was just running 1584 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,880 Speaker 1: and racing and just dealing with stuff. But man, y'all, 1585 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 1: you guys have brought me back into the phone with 1586 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 1: this book. Man, we love it. Man. That that means 1587 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 1: so much. We really appreciate you taking up the time 1588 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,400 Speaker 1: and really just understanding our writing and reading it. Man. 1589 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 1: That means the world. Say I would just tell you something, 1590 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 1: you know, I want people to understand this. We're gonna 1591 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,760 Speaker 1: be right back because it's going another break with the 1592 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: with the best New York Times is said the most 1593 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 1: accomplished and successful literary writing couple in America. Be right 1594 01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,679 Speaker 1: back with more money making conversation. Don't y'all go nowhere. 1595 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,840 Speaker 1: We're back with more money making conversations on the phone. 1596 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 1: New York Times and label them as the most successful 1597 01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: literary couple in America. And they're doing everything and a 1598 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,920 Speaker 1: hold up that matter on the phone with Astling and 1599 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,320 Speaker 1: Joe Cravers Cola, you guys back, Yeah, I want to 1600 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 1: talk about this right quick. It was read just about 1601 01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,479 Speaker 1: this deal you guys have. You have a deal your 1602 01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 1: side with Warner Brothers Studio at NBC Universe to develop 1603 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 1: television projects. And you also agreed to an audio exclusive 1604 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 1: deal with Audible, a company owned by Amazon dot Com, 1605 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 1: a deal that's the first of his kind with fiction writers. Okay, 1606 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,680 Speaker 1: I got now talk to me about that. Uh, well 1607 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 1: you quite this, maw. We're forty books in so we're 1608 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,840 Speaker 1: just looking for new ways to tell stories. It was 1609 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,679 Speaker 1: a UM expected progression for us to move into television 1610 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 1: and films. Absolutely when l A, we just found a 1611 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 1: world of opportunities that we're just creatives out there that 1612 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 1: we're willing to partner with us to our stories to 1613 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 1: the screen. Um. We were very lucky to link up 1614 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 1: with Warner Brothers and Universal Cable Productions to create two 1615 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:47,800 Speaker 1: television shows. So we're bringing our content to the siver 1616 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 1: screen where we're able to tell the types of stories 1617 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,680 Speaker 1: that we want to tell with people that look like us. 1618 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: So we're very very fortunate to become in as executive producers, 1619 01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 1: not as UM staff writers. In the room, we're controlling 1620 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 1: the type of shows that we're shaping. There you go 1621 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 1: right there. That's all I wanted to hear the word 1622 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 1: control because I'm gonna tell you something. People out there, 1623 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,599 Speaker 1: you know, I get frustrated when super talented people see 1624 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 1: you guys like you see you throw that number out 1625 01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 1: there forty like it was nothing. You really need to 1626 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 1: stop talking to me, Ashley. You we cain't talk no more. 1627 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 1: If we fought the books in in, you know, and 1628 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 1: we went to Hollywood and thought we'd find some new 1629 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 1: avenues to express our vision. But you said control because 1630 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,599 Speaker 1: it's important because people see things a certain way, and 1631 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,840 Speaker 1: because they're writers, they don't have the life experience. And 1632 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 1: if if you hold onto anything, hold onto your name 1633 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,639 Speaker 1: and your brand. Because I'm gonna tell you something I've 1634 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,840 Speaker 1: been an executively do so I've been a writer, I 1635 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 1: should always tell us to Steve Harvey. As a Steve, 1636 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 1: I can get a job the next day. If your 1637 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 1: show get counsel, if your show get else, your name 1638 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,960 Speaker 1: is tarnished. So always know this is that your brand. 1639 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,800 Speaker 1: It's what got you there. And if you don't respect 1640 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: it and control it. And I don't care what names 1641 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 1: they call you, I don't they kill you, y'all jerks, 1642 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:20,280 Speaker 1: y'all asses or whatever. You control your image, man, because 1643 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,240 Speaker 1: they will get a job someplace else and they don't 1644 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 1: even know you. I'm gonna just tell you. The writers 1645 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,120 Speaker 1: who come on the show, they don't know you. They 1646 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 1: may have read a half a book, read a little 1647 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 1: clip from a New York Times article, went in there, pitched, 1648 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 1: and then on your show based on some other work. 1649 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,720 Speaker 1: They did on other dramas. So your brand control is important. 1650 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Hit me on that, absolutely, that's excellent advice. And learn 1651 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 1: how to direct too. Okay, that way you can knock 1652 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,520 Speaker 1: that direct out of that chair and you start directing 1653 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,080 Speaker 1: and controlling your whole bread. Because you guys have something special. 1654 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that because when I read, 1655 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 1: uh the Cartel seven, I just saw the whole series. 1656 01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,559 Speaker 1: You know you guys right, so good man, It's like 1657 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 1: I just I just saw. I just felt like every 1658 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,760 Speaker 1: chapter was another episode you feel me, and so it 1659 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 1: was like every episode it was like because I'm a 1660 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,920 Speaker 1: big fan of you know, I'm gonna just tell you 1661 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,439 Speaker 1: this when Power came out, and I'm not trying to 1662 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 1: compare what you do the Power, but that it's that 1663 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 1: gritty genre, you know what I'm saying where a show 1664 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 1: like that wasn't supposed to make it on TV because 1665 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,600 Speaker 1: she was like that in the past, ain't made it 1666 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,639 Speaker 1: on TV. And I'll be perfectly honest, when they told 1667 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 1: me fifty six was tied to it, I turned my friend, go, 1668 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,759 Speaker 1: this ain't gonna make it. This ain't I ain't gonna 1669 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:41,280 Speaker 1: watch this crap. I am the biggest Power fan you 1670 01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 1: can find because in the end, this is why I 1671 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 1: know you guys can be successful with this, because your 1672 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 1: series is about family. Your series is really about parody 1673 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,639 Speaker 1: and that emotion. If you look at Narckles, the series, 1674 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,760 Speaker 1: that's just about family. If you look Get, if you 1675 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,639 Speaker 1: look at the series with Power, that's really about two 1676 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,640 Speaker 1: parents who are making mistakes, really trying to take care 1677 01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,080 Speaker 1: of their family. Just happen to be drug dealers, just 1678 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 1: have to be drug dealers. There ain't no different to 1679 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,040 Speaker 1: somebody that IBM. Ain't nobody different somebody Amazon dot com. 1680 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 1: It's just that their lifestyle little bit interest because they 1681 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 1: kill people, they beat up people, rough them up. That's 1682 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,599 Speaker 1: all y'all do. But that's that's the that's the enlightening part. 1683 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 1: That's why I know you own to something special. The 1684 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: thing I think is even bigger opportunity for you guys 1685 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:35,840 Speaker 1: is that audio booking, because man, that digital platform, y'all 1686 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,320 Speaker 1: will own a team. And I'm not just talking just 1687 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,200 Speaker 1: to the urban culture. Y'all will own it with everybody 1688 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,880 Speaker 1: because the read if you get I'm just so excited 1689 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 1: for y'all man, because I read your book and I 1690 01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,880 Speaker 1: feel honored man, that I got to read something that 1691 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,519 Speaker 1: excited me as a as a guy in the creative space. 1692 01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,639 Speaker 1: You guys got it going on. Man, you guys really 1693 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,599 Speaker 1: got it going on. And if nobody has read your book, 1694 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,400 Speaker 1: please read your book because it is a joy, It 1695 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,400 Speaker 1: is a journey, it is a is a is a 1696 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,640 Speaker 1: what was it? A force of nature? Literary nature that 1697 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 1: y'all putting out there on a regular basis. Man, y'all 1698 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,920 Speaker 1: doing it. Man, y'all doing it. Thank you, thank you, 1699 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,040 Speaker 1: thank you. Man. We really appreciate it. Man, Because you know, 1700 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of audio books. I don't know how 1701 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna do these books. Uh, they're just gonna read 1702 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 1: the books. How they're gonna do the audio books, how 1703 01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna do well. When um Audible approached us for 1704 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 1: this new and innovative way to tell stories, they wanted 1705 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,760 Speaker 1: to be um different from audio books. Wanted to from 1706 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,160 Speaker 1: like a theatrical field. There you go, now you go, 1707 01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Now you go, boy, boy, stop talking to me, Stop 1708 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,719 Speaker 1: talking to me. To stop talking to me. Brother, that's 1709 01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 1: how you're do it. You hear the door open up, 1710 01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,000 Speaker 1: You hear a gun fire pile, you hear the slap pile. 1711 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,320 Speaker 1: How when they ain't crashed. You hear the crash boom 1712 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,559 Speaker 1: when they step out to the south. You're the running 1713 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 1: water cut off. That's right, that's right, brother, brother, put 1714 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,240 Speaker 1: that deal together for us, man, And you know we're 1715 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,679 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make a movie for your ears, man, man, 1716 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,599 Speaker 1: because see I grew up. Man. I'm gonna tell you something, man, 1717 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,400 Speaker 1: when I put together to Steve Harvey Radio franchise, I'm 1718 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,800 Speaker 1: a fan of of of old school radio, you know, 1719 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: back in the day when you have a radio and 1720 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,840 Speaker 1: everybody will sit around the radio and they hear them 1721 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 1: old stories, hit a symbol and all that stuff. That's 1722 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,559 Speaker 1: the radio that you guys are about to do for 1723 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:48,519 Speaker 1: the millennials. Absolutely, absolutely, and I can't wait to the 1724 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 1: world here this man. I'm really about to just give them, 1725 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, just bring back the theater of the mind. 1726 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,840 Speaker 1: Hey man, Hey, brother, you understand what you're about to do. 1727 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,439 Speaker 1: I know you know because you already visionary both for y'all. 1728 01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,760 Speaker 1: Y'all been y'all been together our fifteen sixteen years old. 1729 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,720 Speaker 1: God put you all together. She saw you made that 1730 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 1: phone call. Y'all be together doing the right forty books here. 1731 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,439 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you on this digital side. It could 1732 01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: be in Spanish, being Russian, being French, Japanese. Absolutely, I'm 1733 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:29,080 Speaker 1: telling you all of them got criminals in their lives. Absolutely, 1734 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 1: come on Spanish. I'll just tell y'all something. I'm just 1735 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,120 Speaker 1: happy I knew y'all wining. That's all because I know 1736 01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 1: next year this time I'm gonna say, can I get 1737 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,040 Speaker 1: them back on the show where they gotta check their scared? 1738 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,240 Speaker 1: They gotta check that scared because you know they big 1739 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:54,200 Speaker 1: na you know. Because I'll tell you something, man, I 1740 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,200 Speaker 1: please do me a favor when when you when you launch, 1741 01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,920 Speaker 1: when you launch, your your your climb, because I'm more 1742 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,559 Speaker 1: excited than the TV. I got the TV, but that 1743 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 1: that digital front with the audio audio books, man, that's 1744 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 1: a special special opportunity. I knew what the impact that 1745 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 1: the audios had on the Steve Harvey books when we 1746 01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,599 Speaker 1: when when we did the audio books, they went through 1747 01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,719 Speaker 1: the roof. The sales went through the roof. Because people 1748 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 1: want to drive around, they want to just listen. They 1749 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,960 Speaker 1: don't have time to be reading. But they took an 1750 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,760 Speaker 1: these long trips or they're on the airplane. I just 1751 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 1: want to just sit around the house outside and listen 1752 01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,519 Speaker 1: and y'all gonna do the books that I'm asking you 1753 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,479 Speaker 1: guys to do. And you already said, Rashane, you need 1754 01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,840 Speaker 1: to shut up. We already got that in the words. 1755 01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,439 Speaker 1: You know, we're pitching up some ideas like we're willing 1756 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 1: food food. We already there. Stop talking to us food, 1757 01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:53,559 Speaker 1: my man, my lady. I'm a fan. And anytime y'all 1758 01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:58,240 Speaker 1: need Rashaan McDonald for any advice, y'all, just call me. 1759 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,160 Speaker 1: It ain't that's what money make. Come and say just 1760 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 1: about and I will be there to give your advice 1761 01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:06,960 Speaker 1: on ISA producers. People want to represent you, people who 1762 01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 1: got ideas for you. That's what I'm here for to 1763 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:13,679 Speaker 1: take my knowledge and help shape an opportunity of success 1764 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,759 Speaker 1: for you too. Okay, well, thank you, man. We truly 1765 01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,680 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Man. We're gonna fold that up and put 1766 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,880 Speaker 1: it in our back cockey. Just just just don't sit 1767 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,639 Speaker 1: on it too long, you know. Just hey, man, thank 1768 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 1: you all. Vote for calling myself. They're the best, y'all. 1769 01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 1: Please please google them to day. They're the best. And 1770 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have them back in the spring because guess what, 1771 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,760 Speaker 1: God they're good and God they can write there's another 1772 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,960 Speaker 1: episode of Money Make Conversation host abou Rashan McDonald. I'm 1773 01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: so appreciative that I get to talk to people who 1774 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 1: are special every week and let them know they're special too, 1775 01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 1: because sometimes I don't know who I am, and when 1776 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,760 Speaker 1: I started talking to people, they remind me of who 1777 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,479 Speaker 1: I am, and because of that information didn't give me 1778 01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 1: it lives. Lets me know I've lived a blessed life. 1779 01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll be here next week with another great show called 1780 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:09,519 Speaker 1: Money Make Conversation Synergy Houston, Texas, Bye bye. You need 1781 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:13,080 Speaker 1: to check out the wireless earbuds from Recon. 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