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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Friderwick. Come to

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Speaker 2: you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you up to three am Pacific, six am

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Speaker 2: Eastern and as we look ahead to the sports calendar

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Speaker 2: beginning now and beyond throughout twenty twenty six. You know,

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Speaker 2: there are only three types of people in the world.

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Speaker 2: There are pessimists, there are realists. No one ever meant

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Speaker 2: to being a pessimist, and are optimists. Let me tell

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Speaker 2: you a quick tale that will help you identify and

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Speaker 2: define the difference between those three. Three decorated detectives of

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Speaker 2: the New York Police Department were viding for a very

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Speaker 2: a top flight position as the chief of Detectives in

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Speaker 2: the New York City Police Department. And they are all

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Speaker 2: They were all brought in for a final interview in

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Speaker 2: which only one question would be asked of east each

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Speaker 2: and one of the candidates was a pessimist. What was

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Speaker 2: the realist? It was an optimist. So they bring in

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Speaker 2: the pessimist first, ask him one question. He said, who

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Speaker 2: shot JFK. He says, oh, that's easy, Lee, Harvey Oswall,

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Speaker 2: one man, one bullet. I don't believe any conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: No one can keep a secret in this country. They

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Speaker 2: bring in the realist who shot jfk? Oh? It was

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Speaker 2: a consortium of a whole team of people. No one

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Speaker 2: man could have acted alone and done that by himself. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thanks for free to go. They brought in the optimists

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Speaker 2: and they said who shot jfk. He kind of scratches

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Speaker 2: his head and thinks for a minute. He says, can

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Speaker 2: I get back to you? Okay? So he leaves the

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Speaker 2: interview and goes on to his wife's making dinner and

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Speaker 2: walks in and says, well, how'd the interview go today, honey?

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Speaker 2: He goes, I think it went great. They already got

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Speaker 2: me working on a murder case as I look ahead,

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Speaker 2: beginning in just a few hours from now hours to

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Speaker 2: be exact, as to our fabulous sports calendar. I am

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Speaker 2: an optimist that, regardless of the outcomes, we are going

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Speaker 2: to have storylines, glore storylines. Dick shapp taught me to

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Speaker 2: root for the story, and I do. It's not lost

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Speaker 2: on me. February twentieth, Check that. February twenty second, nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 2: a group of college Olympians shocked the world became the

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Speaker 2: Miracle on Ice. Sunday is February twenty second, forty six

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Speaker 2: years later, USA versus Canada. What's the outcome going to be?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Will there be storylines? I am an optimist.

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Speaker 2: There will be plenty of storylines. March Madness Selection Sunday

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Speaker 2: just three weeks away. Did you happen to sample Saturday?

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Arizona game, the Duke game, UCLA Kansas right

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Speaker 2: and down the line, and the dramatics in those games.

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Speaker 2: I am optimistic that regardless of who cuts down the

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Speaker 2: nets in early April, with March Badness right around the corner,

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Speaker 2: there are going to be storylines. The NBA ready to

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Speaker 2: begin it stretch run. About twenty games left to go.

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Speaker 2: They're starting to intensify. Look what happened between the Knicks

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Speaker 2: and Phoenix tonight or Houston? Excuse me. As we march

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Speaker 2: toward the playoffs and into the playoffs, whether they involve

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Speaker 2: individual players, coaches, or teams themselves or the outcomes, I

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Speaker 2: promise you there will be storylines. I can't wait. We're

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Speaker 2: ten days away from what is going to promise to

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Speaker 2: be a phenomenal World Baseball Classic. Yes, there will be storylines.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe how good this Dominican Republic team is.

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Speaker 2: Japan's loaded, the USA is loaded. There are going to

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Speaker 2: be storylines. Remember when Shoheo Tani struck out Mike Trout

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Speaker 2: three years ago to win the whole thing, and that

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Speaker 2: leaves us to spring training. Baseball is here and I

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Speaker 2: am here for it. That's my sport. The four sweetest

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Speaker 2: words in sports pitchers and catchers report. But you know

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Speaker 2: this is one sport that more so even than the

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Speaker 2: results between the lines, this season will be defined by

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Speaker 2: more storylines than I can remember heading into a season.

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Speaker 2: There will be historic rule changes, obvious major free agent movement.

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Speaker 2: We've got, as I just mentioned the World Baseball Classic,

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Speaker 2: the debut of the ABS Robot Umpire challenge system. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna take some getting used to. Okay, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: used in all regular season and postseason games. It's not

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Speaker 2: will get two challenges per game. Then you retain the

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Speaker 2: forever storylines. There have been blockbuster off season moves. Kyle

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Speaker 2: will be the narrative. The CBA ends December first, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Now, we believe strongly that the owners will

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Speaker 2: because there's no games. It'll start to matter when spring

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Speaker 2: training is supposed to start in February and when the

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Speaker 2: a doozy. I'm told the sides are more angry now

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Speaker 2: at any time since nineteen ninety four. We'll have Larry

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Speaker 2: address the payroll disparity between the small market teams and

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Speaker 2: the high spenders. The Dodgers seemed to be the culprit.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to get a salary cap and let's

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Speaker 2: I am telling you this is going to get ugly again,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to be the narrative. But it's not

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Speaker 2: just that baseball is in a very peculiar place today,

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Speaker 2: because again this cloud looming for the biggest potential labor

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Speaker 2: owners really pursued the cap hard they battled, the World

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Speaker 2: Series was canceled for the first time in ninety years.

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Speaker 2: World Wars couldn't cancel it. That canceled it. Okay, but

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is having something of a moment right now.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy owners are angry. Why they're claiming that their

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Speaker 2: franchise valuations aren't growing as quickly as their billionaire peers

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Speaker 2: in other sports, and they blame that it's the system

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Speaker 2: that governs Major League Baseball. They don't like it. Almost

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Speaker 2: every owner in Major League Baseball wants claim they need

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Speaker 2: At the same time, they say it would provide a

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Speaker 2: that's true. The top spending teams don't win every year.

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Speaker 2: They don't a lot. Most of the time, they don't win.

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Speaker 2: But here's what's crazy. When you listen, I made my entree,

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Speaker 2: sure enough they did August eleventh, and I was right

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Speaker 2: who remade anonymous said quote, we are ready to burn

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Speaker 2: the effing house down. Oh my god. But guess what.

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Speaker 2: Players are also angry because it feels to them like

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Speaker 2: it's going to be inevitable that after this current CBA

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Speaker 2: and they're going to propose a cap at the bargaining

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Speaker 2: actually support a cap system. It's going to get ugly,

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Speaker 2: and the media covers will get ugly. What's interesting is

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Speaker 2: there's a huge contrast between what's happening now in nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety four. In nineteen ninety four, the players believed that

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Speaker 2: The owners wanted a salary cap. Then the players said

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Speaker 2: not no, hell no. You see, the first renaissance period

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Speaker 2: to TV, players' revenues were about thirty five percent. TV

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Speaker 2: You got to the mid sixties, it dipped to a

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Speaker 2: The difference, the quality of the difference is now. The

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Speaker 2: if we can't stop the the owners, if they want

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Speaker 2: to keep spending money, we'll take it. The owners don't

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Speaker 2: They've really created a culture where people want to be there,

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Speaker 2: Contrast set with the Yankees, who are supposed to be

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Speaker 2: bring in seven hundred and twenty eight ban, they only

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Speaker 2: spend forty nine percent of it on payroll. And when

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Speaker 2: fifty seven percent, fifty two percent, forty nine. Now, the

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Speaker 2: So what's gonna happen? I don't know, but I am optimistic.

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Speaker 2: There are going to be storylines, storylines, add more storylines,

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Speaker 2: We'll bring you out to Vegas, joined by one of

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Speaker 2: Fox five TV affiliate here, who's got his finger on

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Speaker 2: the pulse of the Raiders who are in the news

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Speaker 2: all week long. I heard people talking about Fernando Mendoza,

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Speaker 2: Are the Raiders gonna draft him? Talking about Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: How far does that kasm run? By the way, the

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Speaker 2: they draft number one overall. So we're gonna have just

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Speaker 2: a little NFL stuff tonight. To wait your whistle and

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Speaker 2: what is appearing to be some very pertinent topics. I'm

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Speaker 2: good dude, all Right's welcome in a gentlemen, another great dude.

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Speaker 2: You've heard him on my show many times. We're way overdue.

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Speaker 2: Should have had him on well before this. He's the

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Speaker 2: and a very busy man. Say hello to Kevin Bolinger. Kelvin.

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Speaker 2: Always appreciate you making time.

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Speaker 5: Always great to be here, Bertie. And you know when

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Speaker 5: you cover a team that finishes with the worst record

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Speaker 5: in the NFL, you don't get on the radio as

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Speaker 5: much right.

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Speaker 2: Well, we try to look for the storylines and unfortunately

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Speaker 2: it's a motif. But I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 2: It makes for an easy segue because they're very much

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Speaker 2: in the news even this past week. But before I

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Speaker 2: get to the draft, which is sixty days away, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: let's start at thirty thousand feet in descend. Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: didn't play the last two games against his wishes seem

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Speaker 2: to have built a chasm there. How deep did that

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that's the huge question that it

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Speaker 5: seems to be a cat and mouse game right now

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Speaker 5: with a lot of speculation but no definitive answers coming

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Speaker 5: out from either side as to where it stands right now. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, Max Crosby as a high motor, he always

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Speaker 5: wants to play. He will play hurt. He's played hurt

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Speaker 5: a lot during his career, and so, you know, I

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Speaker 5: think that maybe the olive branch a little bit was

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, and that's not the only reason they did that.

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Speaker 6: They'll get me Rob.

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Speaker 5: Rob Leonard certainly diversey deserving at a high rising star

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Speaker 5: in the NFL coaching branks, but also very close with Max.

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Speaker 5: Krosby uses the line coach, So you know, maybe that

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Speaker 5: helps a little bit. But we'll go a little bit

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Speaker 5: more as we get closer to the draft. He's recovering

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Speaker 5: from that surgery. Uh, and we'll see where the Raiders

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Speaker 5: go with that. But you know, right before the draft,

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Speaker 2: So what I have heard, because I've checked my NFL moles,

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Speaker 2: and it's hard to picture Max Crossby being in another

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Speaker 2: a zero. What I'm hearing from people I trust is

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Speaker 2: they really don't think they, meaning the Raiders, that Max

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Speaker 2: We're gain this for just a second, what exactly what

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Speaker 2: the Raiders want to make something like this happen if

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Speaker 5: Know, the obviously has to be at least a first

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Speaker 5: And depending on where the Raiders are in terms of

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Speaker 5: you know, I would think that it's going to take

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Speaker 5: on top of that to first. I'm not sure they're

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Speaker 5: Max Crosby loves being a Raider. It is something that

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Speaker 5: he truly wants to be. But maybe the only thing

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Speaker 5: so if he thinks that the team maybe is headed

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Speaker 7: It just doesn't happen yet.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's well known that Max does want to

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Speaker 2: that he's always done his speaking with his play on

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Speaker 2: the field. But it does seem cryptic this time. I

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Speaker 2: don't I haven't heard him be real vocal and say

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Speaker 2: things like I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying here. So

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Speaker 2: do you believe on some level the door is open,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the door's open. And I you know,

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Speaker 5: like we said earlier, there's been no definitive from either side.

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Speaker 5: You know, John Spycheck, the general manager, was as point

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Speaker 5: blank if if Max Crowby was off limits at his

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Speaker 5: news conference when they announced the firing of Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 5: Crosby has had blund of opportunities through his podcast and

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Speaker 5: that either. It's been all cryptic on both sides, and

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Speaker 2: All right, We're talking with Kevin Bollinger. He's a sports

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Speaker 2: director at Channel five, are Fox Sports local affiliate TV

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Speaker 2: the draft and sixty days away. It feels like it's

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza. They're saying all the right things they've got

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Speaker 2: to do to do Joss, etcetera, et cetera. Could you

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Speaker 2: see scenario though, where perhaps that number one overall pick

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, I don't see anything coming about that's going

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Speaker 5: to have them trade that pick out and not take

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Speaker 5: before the draft. The quarterback need is so great for

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Speaker 7: And you know, the one.

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Speaker 5: Thing that's important out of all of this is when

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Speaker 5: them on a rookie contract, it allows you to spend

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Speaker 5: have a lot of other problems on their roster to fix.

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Speaker 5: And then two or three years down the road, if

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Speaker 5: the Fernando Mendoza isn't the one to take them to

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Speaker 5: next level. And that's the importance of having your quarterback,

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Speaker 5: you know, be your draft pick, because of that rookie

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Speaker 2: So reason I posed the question the way I did

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Speaker 2: part of the flag Ship pre and post or second

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Speaker 2: to the last draft. The Lions drafted Calvin Johnson like

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Speaker 2: but I don't love the pick because the Lions need

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Speaker 2: help everywhere else. The following year they went on sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson never won a playoff game. My concern is clearly,

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza is everything and checks every box. You know,

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Speaker 2: some people try to pour some cold water on the pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm not one of those people. I think the guy

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Speaker 2: the Raiders look at this, because Kevin, You've got your

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Speaker 2: Are the fans ready to go three more years? That's

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Speaker 2: what's going to take? Three more years of being in

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Speaker 2: the fan base know what they're in for if they

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we've seen it with other teams

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Speaker 5: They have ten draft picks, so you know, number one,

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Speaker 5: if they can shore up the offensive line and protect

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Speaker 2: like that on Clint Kubiak, but your thoughts on that,

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Speaker 2: and if it hadn't been Klint Kubiak, who else was

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not so sure that a veteran coach

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Speaker 5: John Spytech, in collaboration with Tom Brady, will be making

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Speaker 5: terms of the decision making process with a veteran head coach.

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Speaker 5: So from back then point you would assume that they

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Speaker 5: were going to go younger to begin with. And while

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Speaker 5: they're you know, certainly anytime you're rolling the dice on

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Speaker 5: on somebody who's going to be a head coach for

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Speaker 5: the first time, because you know, as we've seen with

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Speaker 5: some others that you know are great coordinators, that just

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Speaker 5: doesn't translate to being a head coach. There is a

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Speaker 5: pedigree there with his dad, Gary Kubi acting a Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl winning head coach. He surrounded himself with a good

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Speaker 5: staff and he's kind of more of a quiet leader.

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Speaker 5: The Raiders have had some more boisterous type of head

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Speaker 5: coach the last couple of and I think that fans

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Speaker 5: are at the point where they'd rather have subdued and

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Speaker 5: success over loud and losses.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, great stuff among your duties with the Raiders. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the Golden Knights. They've broken ground on the new baseball stadium.

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Speaker 2: Here we'll see what happens with the WNBA and the

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Speaker 2: hit parade keeps on going. The busiest man in rock

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Speaker 2: and roll here in Vegas Kevin Bolinger, Kevin, I really

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Speaker 2: appreciate you, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Paul is a pleasured Burnie. Thank you much, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That is Kevin Bollinger, our Fox five TV sports director,

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Speaker 2: and he brings up some excellent points. And one of

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Speaker 2: the things that he brought up, and we've talked about it,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders do have ninety million dollars in salary cap

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Speaker 2: and a blank canvas. So it's a really good opportunity

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Speaker 2: for Clint Kubiak. And I've always said someone comes in

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Speaker 2: here and restores the Raiders to the iconic franchise as

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Speaker 2: they were when they won, and they were franchised to model.

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Speaker 2: They're going to build two statues here. So this is

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Speaker 2: going to be fun to watch regardless. So tell what

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Speaker 2: else can be fun to watch. Before I get into

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Speaker 2: we'll set up the min at hour topics for twenty

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Speaker 2: seven minutes away from the minut hour, and I got

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Speaker 2: three beauties tonight you have some fun with. But I'm

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Speaker 2: big on the circle of life. Look in five hours

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Speaker 2: and thirty minutes here, the USA will face off against Canada,

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Speaker 2: and this is going to be a blood feud as

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Speaker 2: far as the gold medal game and hockey and Olympic

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Speaker 2: hockey is decidedly different now than it used to be

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Speaker 2: because you've got American NHL players playing against Canadian NHL players.

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't that way on February twenty second, nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 2: So we've got February twenty second, twenty twenty six, forty

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Speaker 2: six years to the day, and I'm curious how many

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Speaker 2: people will stay up or get up early at five

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Speaker 2: am Pacific to watch this game or just say they did.

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Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, you may or may not remember that on

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Speaker 2: February twenty second, nineteen eighty, that game faced off at

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Speaker 2: eight thirty pm Eastern Standard time, five thirty Pacific time,

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Speaker 2: and no one saw it live because there was no

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Speaker 2: live television. But if you're driving around listening to the radio,

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Speaker 2: the iconic line, do you believe in miracles? A young

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Speaker 2: al Michaels belt it out USA four USSR three, and

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Speaker 2: this group of young Americans proceeded to finish the deal

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Speaker 2: a few days later. Remember that wasn't a gold medal game.

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Speaker 2: They had beat Finland a few days later to when

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Speaker 2: the gold medal the unthinkable had happened. And what's interesting

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Speaker 2: is revisionist history tells us that, yes, at that time,

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Speaker 2: they were an upstart, quote ragtag group from various parts

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Speaker 2: of the country, from the Bowling Green area to the

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Speaker 2: Boston area, put together by a brilliant coach by the

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Speaker 2: name of Herb Brooks from Minnesota, Meglamaniacle. In just a

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Speaker 2: few months, they faced this Russian team that had completely

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Speaker 2: dismantled of the NHL All Stars the year before, and

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Speaker 2: they had just beaten the USA in an exhibition ten

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Speaker 2: to three ten days before. But somehow Herb Brooks cobbles

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Speaker 2: together this group of young men that were hungry something

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Speaker 2: to prove. The truth of the matter is history tells us,

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Speaker 2: even though at that time they were young and innocent,

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Speaker 2: they were anything but upstarts. Some somehow, over the years

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Speaker 2: there was this echo chamber that painted this group as

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Speaker 2: a bunch of lesser thands from the wrong side of

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Speaker 2: the tracks. The truth of is they were anything but

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Speaker 2: that they just needed a platform, They just needed a

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Speaker 2: stage to show their metal. So I wrote an article

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Speaker 2: on this years ago, corresponding with Dick Schapp Was it

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Speaker 2: really a miracle when you consider what these men did

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Speaker 2: when they were tapped on the shoulder. As difficult as

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Speaker 2: this is to fathom, the nineteen eighty US Men's Olympic

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Speaker 2: hockey players have never received enough credit, truly for being

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Speaker 2: as talented as they were. Again, ragtag youth throwing together.

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Speaker 2: They were not lucky, they weren't hot. Maybe they weren't

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Speaker 2: even a team of destiny. Maybe they weren't even miracle workers.

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Speaker 2: There were maybe just an extraordinary group of players that

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Speaker 2: were impressive who just hadn't had time to prove to

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Speaker 2: the world yet as a matter of fact, an actuality.

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Speaker 2: One of the tremendously under publicized narratives about this American

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Speaker 2: team is that they are truly gifted. According to USA Hockey,

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Speaker 2: twelve twelve players on that team, twelve American Collins players

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Speaker 2: on that nineteen eighty team played a total of over

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Speaker 2: six HL games. In contrast, the Canadian team that year

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Speaker 2: had eleven players make the NHL and they only played

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Speaker 2: four thousand games. So it wasn't exactly a ragtag bunch

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Speaker 2: of college players who got lucky and slayed the dragon.

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Speaker 2: Who was basically an impressive collection of players that Herb

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Speaker 2: Brooks molded, brought them together with the idea that he

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Speaker 2: was putting together an exceptional team that was truly capable

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Speaker 2: of doing when he knew. He knew what they could do,

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Speaker 2: but the world hadn't learned yet. This was a master psychologist.

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Speaker 2: He died in two thousand and three in a car accident,

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Speaker 2: but he'd liked to tell his players, you're not good

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Speaker 2: enough to went on talent alone. He rode them like

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Speaker 2: a rutted mule, rode him like a stick horse, got

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Speaker 2: him in shape that they got him in the kind

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Speaker 2: of shape they never knew they could, and never let

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Speaker 2: them be complacent. He used to say things like, right now,

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Speaker 2: you guys are getting a little worse every day, and

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00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: right now you're playing like the middle of next month.

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Speaker 2: My guests and historians believe that all along Herb Brooks

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Speaker 2: knew his team was far more talented than anybody would

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Speaker 2: ever realize, and revision his history teaches us that the

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Speaker 2: USA's top three centers in nineteen eighty were Neil Broughton,

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Speaker 2: Mark Johnson, and Mark Pavlich. The Street guys combined for

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Speaker 2: eighteen hundred points in twenty two hundred NHL games, Dave

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Speaker 2: Christian and Mike Ramsey, who were defensemen in nineteen eighty.

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00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Both played more than one thousand NHL games. Christian ended

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Speaker 2: up scoring thirty or more goals four times in the

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Speaker 2: NHL's a right wing. He finished his NHL career with

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Speaker 2: three hundred and forty goals and seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: career points. Kenny Morrill, another nineteen eighty defenseman, helped the

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Speaker 2: New York Islanders win four Stanley Cups from nineteen eighty

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Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty three, one of the most NHL's most

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Speaker 2: respected stay at home defenseman for many years. So yes, well,

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Speaker 2: the narrative has been miracle on ice, and it was

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Speaker 2: at the time. It truly was. Give these guys a

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: lot of credit. They were a bunch of upstart clowns.

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00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: They were phenomenal players, and do you believe in miracles? Yes,

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Speaker 2: they made it happen. Will you be watching five and

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Speaker 2: a half hours from now? I don't know whether you

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Speaker 2: are or aren't. There are going to be storylines. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we are twenty one minutes away from where I sit.

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Speaker 2: It turns midnight here in Vegas. Literally the clock strikes midnight.

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Speaker 2: That means it's the midnight hour. Figuratively, it's Midnight Hour everywhere,

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Speaker 2: which means you get the last word. Eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: nine nine six six three six nine eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. We'll set up the topics coming up,

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to hearing from it tonight. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: you know, a little bit more whimsical type topics, but

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Speaker 2: you'll pick right up on it. And I look forward

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Speaker 2: to hearing some strong opinions because that's what makes the

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Speaker 2: midnight hour go round. The callers eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox, We'll set up the topics coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fratto. We are coming you live from the

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked right here.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattles.

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Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Ah, We're back on the Bernie Froutle Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Got me live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: Just getting started. Take after three am Pacific six a m. Eastern.

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Speaker 2: We are thirteen minutes away from the Midnight Hour eight seven,

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine ninety

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Speaker 2: six six three sixty nine. Clearly it's the callers that

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Speaker 2: make the Midnight Hour what it is. As I have

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Speaker 2: said a thousand times, the most boring conversations are when

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Speaker 2: everybody agrees. So look forward to having some fun here

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Speaker 2: coming up. Full lines are open and you're you're invited

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Speaker 2: to jump in. Now. These are our three topics. Little

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Speaker 2: whimsical the night, nothing too serious, although some people might

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Speaker 2: think serious. So baseball is upon us. We had our

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Speaker 2: first spring training game Saturday, actually Friday, and before you

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Speaker 2: know it, the regular season will be here. And one

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Speaker 2: of the storylines is will the Dodgers three pet which

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Speaker 2: segues and really connects to another storyline, and that is

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Speaker 2: the threat of a lockout because it appears that the

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Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker signing seem to push owners over the edge

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Speaker 2: and the impact of that signing. So I again have

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Speaker 2: somewhat defended the Dodgers. I don't think they're really breaking

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Speaker 2: any rules, and you know, whether or not they become

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Speaker 2: a dynasty, they're on the verge of I believe those

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Speaker 2: things are sometimes good for sports. But here's the question.

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Speaker 2: I have for you. Do you hate the Dodgers for

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Speaker 2: what they're doing or do you applaud the Dodgers for

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Speaker 2: what they're doing. Now, some people say they're ruining baseball.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a bit much. I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: universally seen as ruining baseball. Let's face it, they've got

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Speaker 2: an aggressive record high spending. They're twenty twenty six, payrolls

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Speaker 2: run four hundred billion, and it's really sparked a lot

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Speaker 2: of intense debate about competitive balance. There are critics that

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Speaker 2: are calling them, you know, a villain team because they're creating,

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Speaker 2: you know, an unfair, uncompetitive balance, and there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of rival executives that feel that way, But there

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Speaker 2: are also a lot of rival executives that admire their strategy.

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Speaker 2: They're basically maximizing their revenue to build a super team.

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Speaker 2: They're not hoarding money, they're spending it. So there's arguments

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Speaker 2: against because people say they've created financial disparity. Alongside the

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Speaker 2: Mets and Yankees, they operate on a different level, but

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Speaker 2: they clear you know, again we've talked about this, spending

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Speaker 2: money only gives you typically guarantees you a lucrative and

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Speaker 2: competitive and successful regular season with butts and seats and

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00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: high ratings doesn't guarantee that you win anything ever, But

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Speaker 2: there are some that believe that it's a there's a

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00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 2: competitive imbalance because they are able to consistently sign top

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Speaker 2: tier talent like Otani and Yamamoto and Tucker. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we talked about this last year, players like Yamamoto were

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Speaker 2: offered more to go to other teams, so it was

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Speaker 2: taskar dandis so real simple. Do you applaud the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: for what they are doing. They reinvest in the game,

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Speaker 2: they run a first class organization, the fan experience, the team,

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Speaker 2: the stadium, they win, They're providing a you know, a

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Speaker 2: high value proposition for their fans. Or do you hate

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers for what they're doing. They're just lucky they

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Speaker 2: got they got more money, so they have an unfair advantage.

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Speaker 2: That's question number one. Number two. If this doesn't draw giggles,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what will. With all the respect, the

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Speaker 2: Venerable Draymond Green has publicly stated quote he would love

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Speaker 2: to become the NBA commissioner after his playing career. He

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Speaker 2: says he wants to help the league grow. He does

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Speaker 2: acknowledge his past hiccups. If you want to call six

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Speaker 2: expense six suspensions in over a million dollars in fines,

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00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: I think I wouldn't rule it out. And I don't

645
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: really know what the hell Adam Silver does. Just remember,

646
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: Adam Silver, you work for the owners, Okay, the owners

647
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: of your boss. I don't know how that's going to

648
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: work out with Raymond, but let's have a little fun

649
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: with this because I have an idea. You know, if

650
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: you get caught tanking, I mean, we all know Adam

651
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Silver's coming out with these grand plans and threats. I

652
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: don't think he cares about tanking. I think he cares

653
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: that his corporate sponsors don't like then some teams don't

654
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: play to win, and that's probably got his attention. But

655
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: I also think that, remember, he works for the owners,

656
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: and if he's going to take draft picks away or something,

657
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: he's dictating to the people he works for how they

658
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: have to run their business. I hate tanking, but I'm

659
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: not the commissioner. But you know, maybe Draymond would be

660
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 2: a good commissioner because let's say you get caught tanking,

661
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 2: maybe instead of some silly fine which you'll never miss.

662
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: Maybe Draymond gets kick in the nuts or sucker punch you. Well,

663
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole holds you from behind, now that would be

664
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: something right. But in all seriousness, Draymond truly believes he

665
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: has a vision for the future as far as the NBA.

666
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: He has a four time NBA champion. He sees the

667
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: commissioner rule as a way to influence long term growth

668
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: of the league. How I don't know. Look, there are

669
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: actually people in private circles that say, okay, we get it. Okay,

670
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: his suitability is going to be called into question because

671
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: of his history of encore altercations. But there are others

672
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: who say, listen, he has a deep understanding of the

673
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: game in the player mindset. And apparently it's my understanding

674
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: that Draymond has engaged in a lot of high level

675
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: conversations with Adam Silver that were constructive in terms of

676
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 2: regarding his career and some kind of front office position

677
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: after his tenure as a player ends. So question number one,

678
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: you see what the Dodgers are doing, do you hate

679
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: them or do you applaud them? Two? Draymond Green as commissioner.

680
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: He wants to be commissioner. Could it happen. Well, stranger

681
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: things have happened. I don't know that I can name

682
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: any of them, but stranger things have happened. And he's

683
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: already stated it, and he's already considered. He's already said

684
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: he wants a leadership role. He would love to be commissioner.

685
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: The third topic, You know, we've talked about this before.

686
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: Teams throughout history move off players. It's happened one hundred times.

687
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: Remember when the Lakers moved off of Shack years ago.

688
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: Shack had been a Laker for eight years and he

689
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: was beloved in my view, but they moved off of

690
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: him and kept Kobe. There's not a dot in my

691
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: mind that after the season the Lakers will move off

692
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: Lebron eight years. I ask you, when the Lakers move

693
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: off with Lebron, when they write the history books, who

694
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: will be the more beloved Laker by Laker Nation? Will

695
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: it be Lebron or Shack? Both were there eight years?

696
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: So Topic number one the Dodgers. Do you applaud them

697
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: or hate them? Topic number two Draymond Green Commissioner Number three,

698
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: Shack or Lebron? Who's more beloved? Dial it up? It's

699
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: Bernie Frawdle Show on Fox Sports three. Well, that's right,

700
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: you heard the man. Bernie Friddle Show keeps rolling right along.

701
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frowder. We are a company line

702
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

703
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: Take you up to three AM Pacific, six AM Eastern

704
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: and yep, yep, we got three topics tonight. The Dodgers.

705
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: Do you applaud them or idea hate them? They are creating

706
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 2: an overriding storyline which will be with us well through

707
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. Draymond Green, he

708
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: wants to be the commissioner of the NBA. Just tell

709
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: me what you're thinking. And finally, Shaq was with the

710
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: Lakers eight years. They moved on from him. Lebron's doing

711
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: the Lakers eight years. They're moving on from him. When

712
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: they write the history books, who will be the more

713
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: beloved Laker in your view? Yep, it's time for the

714
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: Midnight Hour eight seven, seven, nine nine six six three

715
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: six nine ninety nine one Fox. And of course you've

716
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 2: got some other rant you just want to get off

717
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: your chest. That's all good too. We're not solving the

718
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: world's problems. They're curing cancer. Here, we're just trying to

719
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: get through life. We open up with Jim leading off

720
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: tonight from the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Jim, I'm sure

721
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: if we can get you over the shinness, you'll have

722
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: another great call.

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00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 6: Hey, Brandie.

724
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Speaker 9: The first topic about the Dodgers. Yeah, you know, they're

725
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 9: just playing by the rules. If if you don't like

726
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 9: the rules, change But you know, I think with the

727
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 9: walkout coming and everything, I think that's I don't think

728
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 9: you can't see baseball for year, So.

729
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: That story would think you have a writing narrative, because

730
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, there's enough new owners now, Jim that really

731
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: believe they can talk the players into a salary cap.

732
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I look to my grave. I

733
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: don't see it. A couple of hours, we have Larry

734
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: Sorenson on ten year major league pitcher. He was right

735
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: there in the middle of the nineteen ninety four a

736
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: strike like we all were. So we'll see. You might

737
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 2: be right, Jim, you might be right.

738
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Speaker 9: You know, baseball is just not exciting anymore, Bernie. He's

739
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 9: too long, and you know they want robot umpire now.

740
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 9: It's just it's just a joke, you know. But what

741
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 9: was the second one.

742
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: Again, Draymond Green. Do you think you would you like

743
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: to see him as commissioner that lulatic?

744
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: Are you crazy?

745
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: He wants it. He's already had He's already had conversations

746
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: with Adam Silver.

747
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 9: Hey spot him of sea and and he can't spell cat.

748
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 9: He's nowhere ready for any of that crap, you know,

749
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 9: to deal with, you know, sponsors and schedules and and

750
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 9: grievances and all that stuff. That's no, no, no, he

751
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 9: can just take his money and go into retirement and

752
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 9: lay on the We live in.

753
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 2: A we live in a weird, weird, weird world. Yeah,

754
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: that was, as you will know. And then then I'm

755
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: a good Catholic boy. But many many years ago, when

756
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 2: I was trying to break into radio in the early nineties,

757
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: some PD said why should we hire you? And I said, Hey,

758
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: if a priest can be a marriage counselor, I can

759
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: be on the radio. Okay. So I don't know. I

760
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 2: don't think it's ever going to happen. But Jim Stranger

761
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: things about my friend.

762
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, but I don't think that's gonna happen either.

763
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 9: And between Shaq and Lebron.

764
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 6: Are you kidding me?

765
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 9: Are you kidding me?

766
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 10: Ye?

767
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 9: Shaq's got a personality. I mean he's been out of

768
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 9: the game how long now, he's still doing commercials all

769
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 9: over the place and everything. He's relable, he's a warm person. Well,

770
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 9: Ron's a paying the ass. And if he thinks he's

771
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 9: going to get some farewell tour when he goes and

772
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 9: everything like that, it ain't gonna happen.

773
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Speaker 2: Jim, I hate to tell this, buddy, because you're listen. Uh,

774
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: you're one of the staples callers of the show. I

775
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 2: am telling you what's going on behind the scenes right now.

776
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: He's going to bring a camera crew and they're selling

777
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: the rights to his farewell tour, Lebron's farewell tour. They

778
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: believe it can it can fetch between forty and seventy

779
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: million dollars.

780
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 9: You're just playing in my head.

781
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that this is real information. Now.

782
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: I think it should be a good writs tour. I

783
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: am not kidding you. It's going to be documented, it's

784
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: going to be filmed, and they're going to sell the

785
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 2: rights to it. They think it CONTs forty million.

786
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 9: That that is that is I'm sixty eight years old.

787
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 9: That is the worst thing I've ever heard about.

788
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 7: Sports in my life.

789
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 9: I am not kidding you, and I've witnessed a lot

790
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 9: in my life. That guy is a clown. I mean

791
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 9: he's got he's got talent, everything and stuff like that.

792
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 9: But outside of that, no, no, no one's going to

793
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 9: care about that Bernie. I think I don't think he

794
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 9: is loved.

795
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: The translation you and I aren't. But well, I think

796
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: you're right. He thinks he's more love than he really is.

797
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: But you know, I listen, pal, you know quickly you

798
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: got the last.

799
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 9: Year and the last and the last thing is Bernie,

800
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 9: let him walk. I'm so sick about baseball. Walk him out.

801
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 9: I mean, if you just had an ad on your show,

802
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 9: they had eighty thousand, eighty thousand for soccer game at

803
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 9: the coliseum. Times are changing. You got other sports during

804
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 9: the spring and summer now where you know, twenty years

805
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 9: ago was just baseball, and people just they're tired, and

806
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 9: they're spending a lot of money to go and sit

807
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 9: there and watch those babies. You know, I mean that's

808
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 9: just my opinion watching it over the years, I know

809
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 9: there's a you know what I mean.

810
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: It's ohways appreciate you, buddy, I with all the respect.

811
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: Baseball revenues are an all time high, Baseball attendance is

812
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: all time high, and Baseball TV ratings are actually through

813
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: the roof. But I get it's not for everybody. I

814
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: look the way Jim Oways starts off the show. Jeff

815
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: and Denver, welcome back in. How are I? Jeff?

816
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 11: Good? Bernie?

817
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 12: You got the greatest show of all I never miss it.

818
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Appreciate you man so well. Let's start with the Dodgers.

819
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 2: Do you love him or hate him?

820
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 12: Hate him with the to the extreme. It's just not

821
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 12: they try to buy. I don't like any franchise trying

822
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 12: to buy a championship. It's not fair. They needed to

823
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 12: figure out some kind of parody in this. I hate

824
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 12: it to the extended degree.

825
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: Fair enough, you've got good company, a lot of I

826
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: am telling you when they signed Kyle Tucker, if there

827
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: was any and I'm just reporting this objectively, all right,

828
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: I don't really have a dog in this fight. Sorry

829
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: about that. Michael Vick. I love you, but I was

830
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: on an elevator once with Michael Vick. My claim to

831
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: fame bottom line, Jeff, is I don't have a dog

832
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: in this fight. You're in good company. A lot of

833
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: people feel the same way you do. And the signing

834
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: of Kyle Tucker is what pushed it over the edge

835
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: definitively as to whether or not ans there's any question

836
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: whether the owners will lock him out next December, that

837
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: push it over the edge.

838
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 12: So it's just it's just it's just not right. It's

839
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 12: just not right that they can buy I mean and

840
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 12: the Yankees, it's the same thing. It's just not right.

841
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 12: They need to figure out some kind of parody. I

842
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 12: don't know if they will, but they need to figure

843
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 12: out some kind of parody.

844
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

845
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: Well that's what that's they're going to attempt to uh

846
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: with a lockout. But I don't know if if they'll

847
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: ever be a salary cap Uh. Raymond Green, could you

848
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: envision him as a commissioner? Wants it?

849
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 12: They possibly only because they got to do something. The

850
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 12: space alien slash dinosaur has.

851
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 13: Got to go.

852
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a distinctive looking guy. I've always wondered

853
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: what kind of what what kind of compare them to? Yeah, yeah, terrible.

854
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: The past NBA commissioner was rate but oh David Stern

855
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 2: didn't play man that dude, who that guy did not play?

856
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: I remember when he Wnba said we might go on

857
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: strike in two thousand two. He goes, go ahead, We'll

858
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: just shut the league right down. Yeah, that was the

859
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: end of that. They didn't he didn't play. I let him.

860
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: Comparison thought at.

861
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 12: Least the previous commissioner had some kind of control. Adam

862
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 12: Silver is just a puppet. I don't know what he's

863
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 12: pull on, what he's doing, but they need something to,

864
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 12: you know, continue on with the continuity of the league.

865
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: Finally, uh Shaq was with the Lakers eight years, Lebron

866
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: eight years. When they write the history books, who will

867
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: be the more beloved Laker?

868
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 12: Oh, it's no brainer, one thousand percent. Shack Lebron is

869
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 12: the biggest narcissist out there. He's ruined himself by the

870
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 12: narcissist personality or attitude he's got. It's me me, me, me, me,

871
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 12: me me.

872
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 9: Put it on the floor and shut up.

873
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: And there's talk about them building a statue at Staples

874
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: Center when he retires. I, you know, gag me with

875
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: a spoon. Can you still say that that was kind

876
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: of lame? You got the last word, Jeff anything else?

877
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 12: Bud No it's the comparisons are just it's not right.

878
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 12: It's just he's got so much narciss system. He's ruined

879
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 12: himself with that attitude.

880
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, Jeff, appreciate you man. Enjoy your Sunday

881
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: on Andrew, excuse me, Andrew and Bakersfiel hole, Orry Man,

882
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: I'm good.

883
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 7: How are you?

884
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: Brittany?

885
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 6: All right?

886
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 14: I'm just gonna okay the Dodger topic. I'm a Dodger fan,

887
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 14: but I think it's evident to me that most people

888
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 14: don't consider the Dodgers like the Yankees. People didn't like

889
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 14: the Yankees and all their big players and whatnot. I

890
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 14: don't know why. It's just different, and so I think

891
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 14: the Dodgers they're just going according to the rules.

892
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: Secondly, commissioner, he wants to be commissioned.

893
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think he could do it. He's smart, he's

894
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 14: and he could give the player perspective because yeah, I

895
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 14: think he should do it or could do it, and

896
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 14: don't listen to the haters.

897
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 6: Now.

898
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 14: My last thing, real quick is Adam Silver. Okay, it's

899
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 14: obvious that his problems are injuries and load management basically,

900
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 14: and what he has done has added more games meaningless

901
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 14: games in the tournament, and anyways, my opinion is to

902
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 14: take the first series of the playoffs and you make

903
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 14: it five games, and you know you got to address

904
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 14: the issue of injuries and load management.

905
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 5: That's all I have, all right.

906
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Andrew andre in Massachusetts back for two

907
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: weeks in a row. Welcome in Bud.

908
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 15: How are you doing, Bernie, Thanks for taking the call.

909
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 15: Is that we don't have a problem with the Dodgers

910
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 15: spending money hand over fist, because listen, you've got to

911
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 15: be the smart money at the table. Right We've seen

912
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 15: our friend there in the Golden State, mister Billy Bean

913
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 15: with his moneyball. It's not about buying players. It's about buying.

914
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 12: Wins, all right.

915
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 15: So I'm not understanding what dis fewed in baseball is

916
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 15: people talking about it possible like lockout strike. We haven't

917
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 15: had one in thirty years, just when baseball is starting

918
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 15: to trend in the right direction. I'll have no time

919
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 15: for it whatsoever. Okay, we have the pitch clock, the

920
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 15: game is moving fast. You're getting more repetitive action, which

921
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 15: people need, particularly in this technology aid. And the bottom

922
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 15: line is that we don't have robot umpires coming to baseball.

923
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 15: We have finally, at long last, the automated ball stripes

924
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 15: sits them. This is what baseball has been calling for.

925
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 16: Go ahead and check.

926
00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 15: Out the auditor on Twitter. It's tremendous. We need challenge

927
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 15: in baseball. It's necessary. All of these umpires missing call

928
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 15: third strikes, you only get twenty seven out. They completely

929
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 15: change the game. So that's going to be another huge

930
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 15: positive addition in baseball.

931
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 16: They have to get this right.

932
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 15: There's no way a salary cap is happening. It's never

933
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 15: been there, not going to be there. They have the

934
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 15: strongest union union in sports, so just get that out

935
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 15: of your mind. But baseball needs to come together because

936
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 15: they finally have some positive momentum. I know you've got

937
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 15: two other topics here, but this is important. They finally

938
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 15: got some positive momentum that has to keep going to

939
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 15: push the national passime back with the other major competitive sports.

940
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 15: Draymond Green can be the commissioner. I agree with it

941
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 15: one hundred percent of Chuck E Cheese. That's where it

942
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 15: can be the commissioner and nothing else. Okay, there's no

943
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 15: way in any universe that we're letting mister Karate kick people.

944
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 15: Mister go out and scream at the fans. Person be

945
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 15: the leader of any reputable organization. No, absolutely not, end

946
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 15: of story.

947
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 9: Okay.

948
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 15: So if once to take over at Chuck E. Cheese

949
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 15: back in his home state of Michigan, go go have

950
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 15: that it, Raymond. But outside of that, you have no

951
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 15: leaders ship role, Okay, as far as I'm concerned, you know,

952
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 15: until we get some training or some you know, intervention

953
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 15: or whatever else. So so no, it's not, that's not happening.

954
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 15: La the the the check damas. Okay, he's got three championships, right,

955
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 15: he brought prosperity back to the Lakers. They had to

956
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 15: drought in the nineties, okay, and then they had to

957
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 15: go get the zen Master.

958
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 6: And you know, two.

959
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 15: Thousand and two thousand and one, two thousand and two,

960
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 15: the Lakers that dynasty returns. It didn't end on good terms, right,

961
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 15: he was upset. Bus went with Kobe because he saw

962
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 15: the future. So it didn't end great. But it can't

963
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 15: be understated what the greatest executive team sports, in my opinion,

964
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 15: Jerry West did, bringing to Bill O'Neil to Los Angeles

965
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 15: and then partnering him with the zen Master so that

966
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 15: they can have that next dynastic run. So he you

967
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 15: searched Lebron even though Lebron you know, is a Laker

968
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 15: and has done a big things for your organization. Berne,

969
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 15: thanks so much for having me. We'll see you next time.

970
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: Good deal. And I don't know if you heard my

971
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: opening commentary, but baseball is in a very big your place.

972
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: Owners are pissed. They believe their franchise valuations aren't growing

973
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: as quickly as they want them to or their other

974
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: counterparts in other sports. And they're blaming the system that

975
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 2: governs Major League Baseball, even though they voted four years

976
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: ago unanimously to use the system that's currently in place.

977
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: This is not a logical argument. This is this is

978
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: an emotional argument. Make no mistake. We saw it in

979
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: ninety four. I'm concerned it's gonna get ugly again. And

980
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: as long if this union is as strong as it

981
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: has been in the past, the owners will never get

982
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: their cap, so cooler heads will not prevail. I think

983
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: something weird. I'm very concerned players are upset too, because

984
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna play the season with a cloud hanging over

985
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: the head. All right, So we've got Robert and Fresno

986
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: Philippe and Southgate, Rawle in Los Angeles, Martin and Orange.

987
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: Please hang tight, guys, I want to hear from all

988
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: of you. We're gonna get right back to you. Eight seven,

989
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox's The Maynight Hour. Keep it locked.

990
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: We're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on fuck.

991
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

992
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 2: Or back at the Bernie Frattle Show. The Midnight Hour continues.

993
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: We go back out to the phones, joined by Robert

994
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: in Fresno. Robert, thanks for your patience, welcome in. How

995
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: are you.

996
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 6: I'm good.

997
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 11: Thank you for taking my call.

998
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: Bernie.

999
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 11: He loved the song too, one of.

1000
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: My most only motoon bumper music, Baby, only motive bumper

1001
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: music on my show.

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00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 6: You appreciate it?

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00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1004
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1005
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 11: About the Dodgers, I like it, I love it. I

1006
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 11: think it's exciting, you know, to watch him play, and

1007
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 11: you know, even though they had a staff roster, they

1008
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 11: had some challenges during the World Series. So I'm just

1009
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 11: gonna say, you can pay all this money to get

1010
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 11: the you know, the best players possible, but it's not

1011
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 11: always a guarantee that it's going to match, you know,

1012
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 11: with your team. So I love the potential that the

1013
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 11: Dodgers bring to the table, and so it was, and

1014
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 11: they didn't have that really a great regular season.

1015
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 9: So a bit of a hangover.

1016
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: From their from their you know, their first World Series.

1017
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 11: Maybe yeah, maybe so, but but.

1018
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: But when it when the lights came on, when it mattered. Yeah.

1019
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: Continue on any thoughts on Draymond Green, any merit to

1020
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: him being commissioner someday.

1021
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 11: I think it's a possibility. I just I don't know

1022
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 11: that because of all this. I guess his transgressions previously,

1023
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 11: how he will face up to other players that you know,

1024
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 11: have those same kind of different cults. He's on the court,

1025
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 11: so you know, he may not be as as strong

1026
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 11: as the David Stern would be, but you know, he

1027
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 11: is a smart guy and he knows the game. So

1028
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 11: it is possible, but I really don't see it happening, honestly.

1029
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: Agree. Finally, Lebron will finish up his eighth season with

1030
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and I do believe he will not be

1031
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: back next year. Shaq also had eight seasons with the Lakers,

1032
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: who when they write the rest the history books, will

1033
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: be the more beloved Laker.

1034
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 11: I think Shaq will be. I agree with the other callers.

1035
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 11: I think, you know, he did bring more championships to

1036
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 11: the Lakers. He was more beloved. He has, you know,

1037
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 11: kind of that personality that draws you to him, where

1038
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 11: Lebron is more of a I don't know, I want

1039
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 11: to say his climb office, but he's quanty. Yeah, that's

1040
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 11: a good word for it. So I'm not I mean,

1041
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 11: he's a great basketball player, but I'm not a big

1042
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 11: fan of him as an individual. So I'll tip my

1043
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 11: hat to Shack.

1044
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: Sounds good, Robert, appreciate you checking in and for what

1045
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: it's worth before the midnight hours out, I know I'm

1046
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: going to get at least one Lebron vote and I'm

1047
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: waiting to hear that vote in the Rational and I'm

1048
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: fine with it. I Mean, the idea behind this segment

1049
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: is is to have a you know, an amalgam of thoughts.

1050
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: Felipe in South Key, Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show.

1051
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: So it's your first time checking in, Bernie. How are

1052
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: you doing, good, sir? How are you good?

1053
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 6: Okay?

1054
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 9: So as far as the Dodgers.

1055
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 17: Goes, actually I love what they're doing because there has

1056
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 17: not been any other time in the sport where the

1057
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 17: highest revenue grossing team in best back on their products

1058
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 17: so much of a percentage excellent point. So we're we're

1059
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 17: seeing we're seeing something that it's probably not gonna be

1060
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 17: seen probably like in our lifetime for sure, just because

1061
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 17: we don't know what's gonna happen after this season. I'm

1062
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 17: thinking there's probably gonna be a lockout for the whole year,

1063
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 17: just because I do think the owners are gonna want

1064
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 17: the salary cap in place. But I mean, if they're

1065
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 17: gonna implement a salary cap, obviously there needs to be

1066
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 17: a salary floor.

1067
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 6: You know.

1068
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: Well that's what the owners also don't really want to

1069
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: agree to, so they just want to put a cap.

1070
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: I yeah, this is going to be an ongoing story

1071
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: all years. Green Felipe, you think you could be commissioner?

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Speaker 17: Jaymon thinks he can do whatever he wants, But honestly,

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00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 17: he shouldn't be talking about being commissioner. He thinks he's

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00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 17: the smartest person in any room that he's in, you know,

1075
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 17: and there's obviously smarter people to be able to take

1076
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 17: that job, you know that, Adam Silver, So Draymond needs

1077
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Speaker 17: to stick to doing his podcast.

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Speaker 2: Pretty pretty succinct there, all right, who's more popular Shack

1079
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: when they were at the history books, Will it be

1080
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: Shaq or Lebron who'll be the most the more beloved Laker.

1081
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 17: It's Shack, that's not even closed. Bernie Shack played here

1082
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 17: in his prime for those eight years. He went three

1083
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 17: titles and four final appearances.

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 6: Got the three P. You know, the last team in

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01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 6: North American sports to three P.

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Speaker 16: I mean Lebron.

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Speaker 17: If you want to compare them to any other Laker,

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 17: you know, maybe Will Chamberlain. You know, he helped get

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 17: one ring, but he doesn't come to Shaq, Kobe Magic

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01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 17: or Kareem Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're you're you're spot on, Felippe, thanks a

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: lot for checking in, buddy. Look, Shaq has what Lebron wishes.

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01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: He had a larger than life personality with a lot

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01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 2: of charisma, tremendous media presence. Lebron really doesn't have those things.

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01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. And and Shaq was the most I'm a

1096
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: big man for his era at least right, and he

1097
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: had a more cultural impact okay, and he crossed over

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: and Jack had actually become a pop culture icon. Lebron

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: wishes he was. I don't think he is just my thoughts.

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Speaker 2: We're all in Los Angeles. Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 10: Do you say, Bernie, how you doing this evening?

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Speaker 7: Brother?

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01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm doing well, my friends. Thanks for taking the time

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Speaker 2: to call in.

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Speaker 10: It's an honord pleasure to speak with you. I've been

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01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 10: a fan for a real long time. My first time

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01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 10: to actually get to call in.

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Speaker 2: Hey, first time, Cole. Don't be a stranger. We do

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01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: this every Saturday night.

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Speaker 6: Row.

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Speaker 10: I love it, my brother. So regarding the Dodgers, I mean,

1112
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 10: once again here regards his story years old as baseball time,

1113
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 10: the owners are looking for a public sentiment to help

1114
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 10: save them from themselves.

1115
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: True.

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01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 10: True, this is a monster they've created. Man, this is

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01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 10: what they do. And last time I checked me out,

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01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 10: they all played by the same rules and they could

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 10: all be doing this. You know, all the teams could

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Speaker 10: do this. And the fact that the other teams are

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 10: nod in crying about it, it's they're crying as far

1122
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 10: as I'm the turn crying into an empty pillowcase. You know,

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01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 10: I mean, there's nothing there for them. I mean, you're

1124
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 10: looking about millionaires finding against billionaires, and I'm not going

1125
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 10: to take the billionaire's side, but I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 10: Next to the Umpires Union, the Baseball Players Association is

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01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 10: probably the strongest union in sports.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: I don't think there will ever be a sealary cap

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Speaker 10: in baseball. I think there will be other concessions made,

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01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 10: which what those will be, I don't know, But as

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 10: far as the salary cap, I don't think it's ever

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01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 10: going to happen.

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: I listen, you have seven years of history behind you.

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01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 10: And that's right.

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: It's hard to believe. There are a few new owners

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01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: who might be a little delusional, but I agree with

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01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: everything you said. Continue on. What are your thoughts on

1139
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: Raymond Green? Can you be commissioner Sunday?

1140
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Speaker 10: So I'm going to say the Jerymond thing for the

1141
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 10: last thing. But regarding the Shack and the Lebron thing, unfortunately,

1142
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 10: you're probably not going to get anybody on le Bron

1143
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 10: side because I am I was a bigger shack Pen

1144
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 10: than a Kobe said. Believe it or not, but I

1145
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 10: you know, I just I'd love Shack with everything he

1146
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 10: brought to the game, the most dominant player of his era,

1147
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 10: the whole thing that's been covered. But in Lebron's de sense, man,

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 10: I mean everybody talks about him being a diva and

1149
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 10: the whole deal, and uh, you know, I challenge anybody

1150
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 10: in existence to this kid was on the cover of

1151
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 10: Sports Illustrated before he went to high school.

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01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: I'll give you that. I'll give you that. He lived

1153
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: up to the hype brawl. That's an excellent point. Actually

1154
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: went to one of his games at Saint Vincent Saint Mary.

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Speaker 10: Go ahead, yeah, man. And that's the thing, like, I

1156
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 10: challenge anybody to not be a diva. Once you've had

1157
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 10: all this praise heaped upon you since before you were

1158
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 10: old enough to drive, you know, see what kind of

1159
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 10: magleominiac that turned you into? You know, I mean I think, uh,

1160
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 10: I think what the general with the young man, the

1161
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 10: man now is going through is something that nobody has

1162
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 10: ever before and had to deal with in you know.

1163
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 10: So I think a little leeway's given to him. And

1164
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 10: I was one of the biggest lebron to tractors before

1165
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 10: he came to my team, to Los Angeles Lakers. So

1166
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 10: once he's on my teammate, he's my favorite player, right,

1167
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 10: that's my king, fair enough?

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01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, go ahead.

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Speaker 10: So that's another vote for Shock. But so regarding the

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01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 10: Draymond deal to wrap up this call is uh, you know, man,

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 10: I think it's extremely far fetched to think that he

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01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 10: could ever be commissioned. It'd be like giving the accuse

1173
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 10: of the asylum over to the lunatics. Man, It's like

1174
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 10: like giving Donald Trump the presidency. I mean, what's wrong

1175
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 10: with these people? It will never happen.

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01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: Don't be a stranger wrong we do this. I appreciate

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01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: you taking the time to call in, and last week

1178
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: I gave a list of chronology of all the notable

1179
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: incidents from Dermond in his career since twenty thirteen. And

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01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: I want to get to all the callers, but I

1181
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: may have to do that later in the show. You'll

1182
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 2: be shocked all the physical altercations he's had that he initiated.

1183
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: Martin Orange, what is happening?

1184
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 18: Buddy Greedy's and salutations?

1185
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: Bernie, how are you the pride of faults in college?

1186
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: And Hal Suirbeck? Bring it?

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01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 18: Let me just start right now with Draymond Green. When

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01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 18: you look at the list of commissioners, I see politicians.

1189
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 18: I don't see anyone who played in the NBA. So

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 18: why do I calm this guy's boat? No one's saying

1191
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 18: he's gonna go directly out of the league to be

1192
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 18: the NBA commissioner, but put him in a solid position

1193
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 18: in the league. Watch him work his way up. And

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01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 18: I have no feeling for Draymond Green, and I'm sure

1195
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 18: a player can lead this league into the pupils.

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: Well, hey, you know, hold on there, Martin, because I

1197
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: know you're a true historian the ABA, and I recommend

1198
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: people watch that four part series on Amazon Prime, The

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01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: Soul of the ABA. They had their first two commissioners

1200
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 2: of Rex players, George Miken and David Busher, so this

1201
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: is not unprecedented. That's kind of why I brought this

1202
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: up today. Continue on.

1203
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 18: And Bernie, like I said, I think Draymond gets sold

1204
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 18: short for a stemper, but his IQ is very high

1205
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 18: in the basketball game. Now with the Dodgers, Yeah, hate him,

1206
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 18: love him. I'm gonna I'm gonna quote my man, Clever Lang. No,

1207
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 18: one don't use the Dodgers, but not Kitty the Pools.

1208
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 18: And it's just why I pity them, because in thirty years, Bernie,

1209
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 18: I'm gonna have my son, who's gonna have this spling

1210
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 18: to his son.

1211
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 15: Why the Dodgers shocked?

1212
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 7: They why he paint some guy named.

1213
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 18: Sho yo' channy shut a hundred million dollars, don't wait, Bruss,

1214
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 18: And then my son will say, well, we used to

1215
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 18: be good. We used to be good now, Bernie, I

1216
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 18: don't If you get a vote for Lebron tonight, that's

1217
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 18: not a Laker fan. That's a Cavalier fan trying to

1218
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 18: be a Laker fan. Because here in the land of

1219
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 18: the Lakers. He brought us three baby, and he's associated

1220
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 18: with probably the most popular Laker in history.

1221
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 11: So hands down, shut you.

1222
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 18: Oh hell, and he was great in blue chips?

1223
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 11: Love you, Bernie?

1224
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: What's great blue chips? All right, Martin, unless you've done

1225
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: my friend Kylin Vegas, welcome in. But how are you?

1226
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: How's your weekend?

1227
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 6: Bear with me, Bernie, I'm trauma best together.

1228
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: I got I got your back there, buddy. Uh back

1229
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: smooking in camel non filters or nah no.

1230
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 6: Not even this, this windy thing that we had these kinds.

1231
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: Of support days. Yes, me too.

1232
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 6: But first thing, three three letters for baseball r O.

1233
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 6: What is your return on investment?

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01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: Uh?

1235
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 6: The return on investment has been nothing but phenomenal. I

1236
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 6: think these these these owners are getting scared that These

1237
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 6: players are becoming more and more and more find financially stable.

1238
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 6: They're not out buying the car lots anymore. They're not

1239
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 6: out buying the pizza places anymore. They're actually putting their

1240
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 6: money back into the business where they're trying to own teams.

1241
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 6: These owners are scared that they're going to end up

1242
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,879
Speaker 6: losing their clubs here long term, going forward, the Dodgers

1243
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 6: are doing a phenomenal job. If you can get the

1244
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 6: money back on the look at the return of investment, Well,

1245
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 6: they were getting their money.

1246
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: They've actually already paid for contract exactly.

1247
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 6: So second thing, Second thing for Draymond, he can be

1248
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 6: the commissioner of Gotham City. That's that that seems more

1249
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 6: likely and more plausible to happen. Uh, he's never going

1250
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 6: to be anything but an enforcer. Hell, if you want

1251
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 6: to be a commissioner of something, go to the NHL.

1252
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 6: That all the earnings that he does, they would love them.

1253
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 10: There.

1254
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 6: They probably get back to fist fighting and the squabbling

1255
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 6: down center center court. So let's let's let's just put

1256
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 6: that into perspective. Lastly, only a sickle fans are going

1257
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 6: to vote Lebron. Okay, these guys that are trying to

1258
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 6: tarnish every other guy that came before him. They're the

1259
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 6: ones that's gonna say that he's the greatest laker of

1260
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 6: all time. Nobody from my error, Nobody from your error.

1261
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 6: Nobody's gonna vote this guy to be the greatest laker

1262
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 6: of all time. Hell, he won't even get a statue

1263
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 6: in Cleveland nor Miami. These guys are just ass kissers.

1264
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 6: And I'm sorry to say I like that they kisses,

1265
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 6: but so much that that's what that is. Bernie loved

1266
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 6: the show, brother, and I'm still listening even though I'm sick.

1267
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, Man, do better, Kyle, appreciate you, man, Kevin, and

1268
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: it's that guy in New York. Welcome into the Bernie

1269
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: Frowns Show. Is this your first time calling in? Kevin?

1270
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: And are you with us? Hello?

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01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 16: Sorry, Bernie, sorry about that.

1272
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: That's okay, man, We're all good here. Was this your

1273
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: first time calling the show?

1274
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 19: No?

1275
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 6: I spoke you. I spoke to you last week, though

1276
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 6: I be very.

1277
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: Briefly last week. Shame on me. I haven't been drinking.

1278
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: Go ahead, buddy, you got the floor.

1279
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 6: That's fine.

1280
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 16: I'm also I'm also battling a cold as well. But

1281
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 16: all right, let's start with Draymond. You may have hit

1282
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 16: on this. This guy wants to be the commissioner. Doesn't

1283
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 16: the NBA don't he and I call them owners? Still

1284
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Speaker 16: don't They still vote on who's going to be the commissioner?

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Speaker 2: Correct, Well, that's that's very true. The Board of Governors,

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: which is the owners, they decided.

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Speaker 16: Well, remember, I hate to interrupt you, but Bernie, remember

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 16: who wanted that change. You know, ownership was considered racist

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 16: by Draymond Green, so he had them change the silliness

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Speaker 16: to the name of governors even though they own the team.

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Speaker 16: So there's zero percent chance that Draymond Green will be

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Speaker 16: commissioner of the NBA.

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Speaker 6: That won't happen.

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Speaker 16: I'm number two with Lebron. Absolutely. There's not one same

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01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 16: person that would ever think that he has more charisma

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01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 16: or is more popular than Shaquille O'Neill. Now, I will

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Speaker 16: say it is a little bit of a revision. It's

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Speaker 16: history because Shaq did have some problems when he was

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Speaker 16: with the Lakers and throughout his career about playing hard

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01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 16: and you know, getting surgery on company time and being

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 16: lazy at times and all that. He's resurrected his career

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 16: no doubt Lebron has a long way to go to

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 16: reaching those type of heights, and I just don't think

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01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 16: his ego will permit it.

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Speaker 7: I believe what.

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Speaker 16: I couldn't believe what you said about him wanting a

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 16: documentary crew to follow him around.

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: It's happening. I have plenty of sources and moles check

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01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: into it. You keep that in mind, what I said, Kevin,

1310
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 2: I am told by sources. I trust he may be

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01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: sell them.

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Speaker 9: Go ahead if it happens.

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Speaker 16: I can see Brody James being an executive producer of

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01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 16: this fraud documentary whatever that is, but which no one

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01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 16: wants to see. If he does this, I mean, he's

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 16: gonna see a lot of resistance that is so called

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 16: farewell to and whatever.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing, and this had to be

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01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: a question coming up when he goes through this tour,

1321
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: will it be more of a farewell tour or a

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01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: good ridden tour? And will there be booze in the crown.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, honestly curious to see.

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Speaker 16: One percent there will be booze. Absolutely, And I guess

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Speaker 16: the last thing was about the Dodgers. Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen,

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01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 16: you know, there's no payroll right now, so until they

1327
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 16: get that together, go spend, spend, spend. It's not my money,

1328
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 16: it's not your money. I don't care about a team's payroll.

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01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 16: I just care about my team's spending.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, Cal appreciate you man a lot of good stuff there,

1331
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 2: and don't be stranger, Kevin. The Mint Hour will continue

1332
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,120
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1333
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Speaker 2: All right, wrapping it up on the midnight hour, and

1350
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Speaker 2: Holler and James joins us for the men. Welcome in.

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 13: Holler and James, Hey, Bonnie, what are you doing that

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01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 13: I look with for you? Do you think Draymon Green

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 13: is a three way player or two way player like

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01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 13: Urban Magic Johnson or a gentleman by the name of

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 13: Kobe Bryant. Don't you think that Lakers team was one

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01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 13: of the best teams they ever had when they had

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 13: Kobe every Magic Johnson's shack and a host of others

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 13: like Kurt Rampis and another gentleman by the name of

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 13: Three abdeor jar cramming over with the groove, and another

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 13: gentleman on that team like Landsberger.

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01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: Mark Landsberger from Arizona State, part of the nineteen eighty team.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good poll there, hollering James. So you

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01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 2: kind of conflated two eras there, because Magic and Rambus

1372
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: and Kareem played in one era and then Kobe and

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:01,520
Speaker 2: Shack and the other Magic in his group had five championships,

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: Kobe and Check three. So yeah, those those Laker teams

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01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 2: were far more iconic to me than any anything Lebron

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: has done.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, what's up man, Very very very structure by gentleman

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 20: by the pat Riley and KC. Jones to both of them,

1379
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 20: two coaches, Hall of Fame coaches were the best of

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 20: your ears. Do you good disagree?

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01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: I think when you look at the eighties, K C.

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: Jones and uh and Capt. Pat Riley very much fit

1383
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 2: that mold. And to underscore your point, holler on James,

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01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: there was not an NBA finals during the decade of

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01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 2: the eighties that did not feature the Lakers or the Celtics,

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: and there were three times when the finals were the

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: Lakers and the So thanks a lot for checking in

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01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: and I appreciate you. Man. We wrapping up with Mike

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Speaker 2: in Lancaster. Mike, what are your thoughts on tonight's topics?

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Speaker 19: I love them all, actually the Dodgers. I mean, I

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01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 19: believe blue, so I might be a little bit biased,

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 19: but I appreciate, like, you know, watching greatness over you know,

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01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 19: circumstances like beaten on trash cans and pumping steroids, you

1394
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 19: know what I mean. I have an appreciation for like

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01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 19: winning naturally with great ballplayers. So whatever it takes to

1396
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 19: get that done, that's fine by me, especially being a

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01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 19: Dodger stand.

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01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: So I have to applaud. Yeah, I'll give a little

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: commentary at you go ahead, So I want to agreement

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01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 2: on that. Do you have any thoughts on Draymond Green

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: wanting to be the commissioner.

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01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 19: I like it a lot, actually, because of I think

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01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 19: his diversity he would he would have if he was

1404
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 19: to make it to that level. I think he'd be

1405
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 19: able to communicate with staff players, I mean, everybody. I

1406
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 19: think it would be definitely a change of pace, but

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01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 19: I think it would probably be a success.

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Speaker 6: To be quite honest with you, expect I'm not.

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: Ruling anything out. I never have to hear enough I'm

1410
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 2: not really getting. Finally, when the history books are written,

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01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: Shaq will have been with the Lakers eight years, Lebron

1412
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: eight years when they were at the history book, who

1413
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 2: will be the more beloved Laker?

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01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 19: Well, another biased one. I'm from Cali. I leed Purple

1415
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 19: and Gold. But I mean I think anybody can look

1416
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 19: at the two and see they're different. I mean Lebron

1417
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 19: he was on a bunch of different teams, so with Shaq.

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01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 19: But Shaq, what I remember the most about him was

1419
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 19: just breaking you know, breaking backboards and people having to

1420
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 19: replace the whole hoop itself, and you know, grabbing the

1421
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 19: ball like with two fingers from Kobe and just singing

1422
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 19: it in there. I mean they could have did that

1423
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 19: for four or five, six, seven, eight more years, who knows,

1424
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 19: you know, not four, not five, not six, not seven.

1425
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 19: But I think Lebron's I think Lebron's different and he's more.

1426
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 19: I think he's chasing. And Shaq was just a man

1427
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 19: among men. I mean, he could just he took a beating.

1428
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: People forget, people forget. I will tell you when the

1429
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: Pistons reigning ended in six when Shack was in Miami,

1430
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,839
Speaker 2: I was covering those games courtside. He was a beast

1431
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: moving people around. People forget what tremendous. Yes, he absolutely

1432
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: was good stuff. Mike in Lancaster, appreciate you. Check it in.

1433
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: Don't be a stranger. Look, there's something about Shack. I

1434
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: think if you had a different vote, who would be

1435
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 2: more who was considered the more superior potential all around player. Uh,

1436
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: they would probably go with Lebron. However, Shaq will always

1437
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: maintain his popularity because he's unique. He has this larger

1438
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 2: than life personality, and he has a much broader cultural reach.

1439
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: He has a sense of humor and a likability that

1440
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: that Lebron will just never have. Shaq has viewed to

1441
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: somebody who's highly personable. He's funny, He's kind of this

1442
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: gentle giant. He has a willingness to laugh at himself.

1443
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: He's unpretentious, he's not need and ironically he has a

1444
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 2: far better media presence than Lebron will ever have. And

1445
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't try. He doesn't have to try. Okay, on

1446
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 2: the floor, he was unrivaled physically. No one moved that

1447
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 2: guy around in the paint. Okay, they say people feared

1448
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, and they did. I don't

1449
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: think anybody ever feared Lebron because Lebron wants to be liked.

1450
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: But the toughness of shock is underrated. And so I think,

1451
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't get a single Lebron vote. I'm surprised,

1452
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: but I guess I'm not surprised. And finally, one of

1453
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: the things that Dodgers don't get enough credit for. You

1454
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: can't just only spend money to sustain a top tier

1455
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball team. You have to maintain an elite

1456
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: farm system. They have a lot of data driven scouting.

1457
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: Their player development is outstanding. They have a knack for

1458
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: reviving careers. The Dodgers have an excellent ability to identify

1459
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: talent and develop that talent. They've cultivated a reputation for

1460
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: turning prospects into all star caliber players. They have very

1461
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: proactive scouting departments internationally, the scout as well as anybody,

1462
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: and they bring a consistency. They're the model of consistency.

1463
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: Even though they know they've won three you know, World

1464
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: Series in the last six years, but they were knocking

1465
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: on the door every year as well. So there you

1466
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: have it. Later in the show, I will get. I

1467
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 2: will maybe give the list of the notable incidents from

1468
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: Draymond Green's NBA career, because should he land a front

1469
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: offs position, you can be sure people are going to

1470
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 2: report that.

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Speaker 7: I know.

1472
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: By the way, in twenty sixteen, he swung at Lebron's

1473
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: junk in the finals. He got suspended for Game five.

1474
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: A lot of people believe Cleveland might not have won

1475
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: that year if if Draymond hadn't done that. Coming up,

1476
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: we switched to the NBA. We talk with Mark Madina.

1477
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. That's right, you heard the man. Berdie

1478
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: Fatters show keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Freedner.

1479
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 2: WI come to you lyon from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1480
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: Take after three am Pacific, six am Eastern, four hours

1481
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: away from face off the United States and Canada for

1482
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 2: the gold medal. February twenty second, forty six year anniversary

1483
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: February twenty second of the Miracle on Ice. But I digress.

1484
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 2: We flip. The NBA is back. We are on the

1485
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: final stretch. Run three simple words. It's that time. Mark

1486
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: Medina are Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider. We have them

1487
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: on every week at this time. Mark, ever so quickly

1488
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: I'll start with the NBA All Star Game, but only

1489
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 2: in this vein. Given the fact they had four formats

1490
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: in four years, are they going to run back this

1491
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 2: format next year?

1492
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 21: Remains to be saying. I was asking some of the

1493
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 21: players that very question. I think the league's here to

1494
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 21: discussed this, but my suspicion is that they will run

1495
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 21: it back only because it was successful. So I guess

1496
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 21: in their mind, don't fix something that isn't broken. But

1497
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 21: as you and I have discussed, the remains to be

1498
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 21: seeing if they can carry this kind of momentum because

1499
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 21: of the enthusiasm for All Star Game is always fleeted.

1500
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh you listen. I mean there was some effort,

1501
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 2: there was some defense, There were block shots or fouls,

1502
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: and I think this dynamic of us forces the world

1503
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: and wanna be carrying that torch seemed to seem to

1504
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: light a fuse. So we shall see. We're gonna jump

1505
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: all around here. Is it true that Draymond Green has

1506
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: actually had constructive conversations with Adam Silver he wants to

1507
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: be commissioner someday? Your thoughts on.

1508
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 21: That, I don't think so. Yeah, I think Draymond Green's

1509
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 21: post career is going to be about getting into the

1510
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 21: media space and you know, take the air from Charles Barkley.

1511
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 21: I know that he Draymond has had conversations a lot

1512
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,520
Speaker 21: of times in Joe Dumars because he is the disciplinarian

1513
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 21: and they kind of share that Michigan connection. No, I

1514
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 21: mean serious, I don't think that Draymond has any interest

1515
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 21: in working in the league office. So he may have

1516
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 21: talked about talk to Adam about the business side of

1517
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 21: basketball and how things work, but I don't think it's

1518
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 21: about trying to work in the league office.

1519
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: Was was Draymond that open a quota as saying he's

1520
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: open to being commissioner? That didn't happen.

1521
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 21: I think he said he was open tor been a

1522
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 21: head coach. I haven't seen the commissioner quotes, but knowing him,

1523
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 21: I don't think he wants to work in a league office.

1524
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 21: I mean, he might be saying all this stuff just

1525
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 21: to be nice, but no, I think I think it's

1526
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 21: more about kind of knowing the business side of things.

1527
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 21: And you know, I think hypothetically that whole like if

1528
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 21: you're a commissioner for a day, this is what you

1529
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 21: would do.

1530
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: But oh, okay, he was taken out of context. I

1531
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: had one of my listeners prober forever. So how would

1532
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: Draymond possibly enforce bad behavior? Who would take his discipline seriously? Actually,

1533
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 2: I might make him commissioner because then if you're caught tanking,

1534
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: he could kick you in the nuts or punch you sucker,

1535
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: punch you what Jordan Poole holds you for behind? What

1536
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: are your thoughts?

1537
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean, look, Draymond's not above criticism when in

1538
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 21: regards to you know, his many discretions, whether it's Steven

1539
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 21: Adams that's what you're referred to, or his other suspensions.

1540
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 21: But I don't think he's a goon here, Like he

1541
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 21: is a very very very skilled defender. You know, he's

1542
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 21: on nine all defensive teams for a reason. So yeah,

1543
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 21: I think in all seriousness, the thing about Draymond is

1544
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 21: he for better and for worse, he knows shortly after

1545
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 21: winn he crosses the line, and when he feels he's wrong,

1546
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 21: he will apologize like he's not above it. It's just that,

1547
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 21: you know, oftentimes he thinks he's in the right here.

1548
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 21: So very complex individual.

1549
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 2: Well, I have the litany of his indiscretions going back

1550
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 2: to twenty thirteen, so, and I can hold two thoughts. Concurrently,

1551
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: he's a good defender and you know at one time

1552
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: a some three point shoot or two. So I'm not

1553
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: mixed up about him.

1554
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 21: No, No, he was never a good three point shoter.

1555
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 21: Let's be clear with that.

1556
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: Well, in clutch situations, I've seen him make more than one.

1557
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about you know, percentages over time, but

1558
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: you you didn't necessarily leave alone. See So anyway, that's

1559
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: what I get for trying to compliment Draymond, because that's

1560
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: not what this is about. I will say though, that

1561
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: Adam Silver spoke out about tanking, and I'm just gonna

1562
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 2: come off the top rope or on tanking my ass.

1563
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: I don't think he cares about tanking. I think he's

1564
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 2: concerned that corporate sponsorships are starting to wonder what the

1565
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: hell's going on and eventually this is going to rear

1566
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: its head and you can talk about draft pick protections

1567
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: or freezing lottery odds. I don't think he's going to

1568
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: do any of this. You got the floor?

1569
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, look, your opinion is share by many in

1570
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 21: the NBA. Look at the statement that he released when

1571
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 21: when the NBA fined the Utah Jazz five hundred k

1572
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 21: and the Indiana Pacers one hunter k. He said, overt

1573
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 21: this type of overt behavior. I think a lot of

1574
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 21: people looked around the league looked at that as saying,

1575
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 21: you know what, be less obvious about your tanking, be

1576
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 21: more subtle about it. I think the fact that this

1577
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 21: took place before All Star weekend rubbed the NBA the

1578
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 21: wrong way. That's the fact that they set healthy players

1579
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 21: for an entire fourth quarter rubbed it in the wrong way.

1580
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 21: But it goes back to your earlier point that togwash

1581
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 21: that this has happened well over and over again, where

1582
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 21: teams will either embellish or you know, come up with

1583
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 21: new injuries to explain why someone's sitting. But I will

1584
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 21: say this, the NBA has reformed tanking, lottery stuff, et cetera, etc.

1585
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 21: Et cetera, et cetera. I mean, the Playing Tournament is

1586
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 21: the best example that I think you can make the

1587
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 21: case that ever since it was enacted during the twenty

1588
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 21: twenty restarts during the bubble, that is made for a

1589
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 21: very competitive landscape at the end of the season. The

1590
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 21: problem is that we've seen is as much as that's

1591
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 21: been a benefit for sometimes teams on the bubble, and

1592
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 21: do they still try to go at it and be competitive.

1593
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 21: The teams that are really really bad have leaned into

1594
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 21: being really really bad, hence what you're seeing from Utah, Indiana, Washington, Brooklyn.

1595
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 21: So yeah, moving forward, I do think that they're going

1596
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 21: to address these things about, you know, not allowing certain

1597
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 21: draft picks if it's overt you know, maybe you know

1598
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 21: teams that are repeat lottery teams. But the reality is

1599
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 21: the NBA wants what Adam Silver calls parody of opportunity,

1600
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 21: and the draft is a very good way to have

1601
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 21: that kind of parody. So yeah, it's it's such a

1602
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 21: wild time here.

1603
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 2: Tomi Markina magic every Saturday night Sunday morning on the

1604
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 2: Bernie Frower Show. Here's the rub. The first ever lottery

1605
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: was for years ago. It's maybe nineteen eighty five, and

1606
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: the Knicks one it with Patrick Hugan. Even then there

1607
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 2: was controversy. They'd reach into a into a bin with

1608
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: envelopes and the envelope had been frozen or bent to

1609
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: ensure David Stern chose it and the Knicks got the

1610
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: first pick. And sometimes you wonder, how does a guy

1611
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: like Wemby end up in San Antonio, and how does

1612
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 2: Cooper flagging up with Dallas? All Right, I don't want

1613
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: to put on the tin flo ahead here, but what

1614
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: I would suggest is this, why don't we just junk

1615
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: the lottery and go back if you finished last year

1616
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: draft first and right on down the line, because I

1617
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: don't think it frankly worse.

1618
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 21: Well, look, the reason why the lottery began the first

1619
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 21: place is because teams that knew they were in last

1620
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 21: place knew they were going to get the top pick.

1621
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 21: So the lottery in theory, was about giving those teams

1622
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 21: a proportionately better odd of getting that, but doesn't guarantee it.

1623
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,799
Speaker 21: That's why you know when they're theres always the element

1624
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:05,959
Speaker 21: of chance, and it doesn't guarantee something that can change behavior.

1625
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 21: I think the other interesting thing is that about a

1626
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 21: decade ago there were calls to reform the lottery in

1627
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 21: light of the Philadelphia seventy six ers and the trust

1628
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 21: the process fiasco. The problem is they weren't able to

1629
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 21: get you need to get super majority twenty three out

1630
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 21: of thirty teams to sign off. They couldn't get a

1631
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 21: super majority. But I think the other thing is after

1632
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 21: you know, Sam Hankey and you know, the sixer front

1633
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 21: office Queen House. I think there was a feeling around

1634
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 21: the league that it wasn't as urgent for the NBA

1635
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 21: to address tanking. So that was pivot point. That's a

1636
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 21: significant pivot point. But I really do give the week

1637
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 21: credit that this playing tournament has added extra regular season

1638
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 21: spice and it has reduced at least some levels tanking.

1639
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 21: But again, what we're seeing now is the extreme level

1640
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 21: for the teams that are really really bad, as opposed

1641
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:07,839
Speaker 21: to it kind of being a gradual thing among more teams.

1642
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 21: So you know, it's still a problem they need to solve,

1643
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 21: but they have made progress over the years for its

1644
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 21: to just not be as agoicious as it once was.

1645
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know, is an interesting point. The number one

1646
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: overall pick is one thing, but guys like Steph Curry

1647
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 2: was the number seven overall pick, and when you look

1648
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 2: at the top tier talent, this upcoming draft class is

1649
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 2: projected as one of the best in recent memory. I

1650
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 2: can name seven or eight guys that are going to

1651
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 2: step right on an NBA roster and contribute right away,

1652
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: So you know, it's not a be all end all.

1653
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 2: It's a situation. I think in theory. Like you said,

1654
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: you said exactly right. What the lottery did was create

1655
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: a situation. Well, there's no guarantee you draft first. You

1656
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 2: just get a better chance to draft first. But again,

1657
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 2: this should not be the narrative in the NBA with

1658
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 2: what I think is potentially going to be a pretty

1659
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: good playoffs y.

1660
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 21: I completely agree, And I think the thing is the

1661
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 21: NBA there always seems to be mixed motives. I mean,

1662
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 21: I can't help but think that some of this energy

1663
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 21: that's come up has to do with the fact that,

1664
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 21: you know, as I said before, this was taking place

1665
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 21: before the All Star Game, very early in the season,

1666
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 21: when traditionally this happens in March and April. But we

1667
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 21: can't ignore the gambling component. You know, there's a lot

1668
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 21: of fans that are putting parlay bets, and you know,

1669
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 21: all of a sudden, if you're sitting guys in the

1670
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 21: fourth quarter when you think they're going to be available

1671
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 21: for most of the game, that causes a lot of

1672
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 21: angs here. So I can't help but wonder the connection

1673
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 21: with that.

1674
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: Mark Madeen and Mark So I talked to a couple

1675
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: of NBA I won't call them scouts, but close enough

1676
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 2: who have told me, I just want your response to

1677
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 2: this that Luca's game they believe has peaked and maybe

1678
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 2: already starting to diminish. You can see he really on

1679
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 2: the defensive end is a major disappointment. And do my

1680
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 2: eyes to c me or has he gained a little

1681
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 2: bit of weight back?

1682
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 21: I mean, look, I haven't weighed him, so I don't

1683
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 21: know the exact number, but I think he looks better

1684
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 21: than he's done that he's had in Dallas. But that

1685
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 21: doesn't mean that he's going to be Usain Bolt and

1686
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 21: winning to track me at anytime soon.

1687
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 12: Uh.

1688
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 21: It's hard for me to say that a twenty six

1689
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 21: year old has peaked, you know, like.

1690
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Old nine years and he's been a pro for twelve.

1691
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 2: I guess I should rephrase it. He's supposed to be

1692
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: in the bit shape of his life. If you came

1693
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 2: down from Mars and looked at him for the first time,

1694
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: you're not going to describe a guy who's an elite

1695
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 2: physical condition. I'm sorry your thoughts.

1696
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 21: No, that's fair, But what I will stress is it's

1697
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 21: all relative. I think he looks better in better shape

1698
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 21: than he ever was in Dallas, and he's twenty six

1699
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 21: years old, and I expect that he'll get and even

1700
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 21: better shape as his career continues to progress. But even

1701
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 21: the larger point that you're making here, but I think

1702
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 21: you're making.

1703
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 10: Is that.

1704
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 21: He's a good player. But is that really enough for

1705
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 21: the Lakers right now?

1706
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 17: They answers know.

1707
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 21: And here's the thing. Luka, dacch Lebron, James Austin Reeves

1708
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 21: have finally played together for the eleventh time in their

1709
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 21: win against the Clippers, and I don't have a lot

1710
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 21: of question marks about their fit. Yeah, I mean, you

1711
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 21: get more reps the better you are, But I think

1712
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 21: their roles are pretty good. Here's the problem, though, there's

1713
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 21: a lot of problems with all their durability number one.

1714
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 21: Number two, the role players that the Lakers currently have,

1715
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 21: they're not consistent. So even when you take into account

1716
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 21: that the Lakers address the three point shooting issues with

1717
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 21: game Luke Canard, who percentage wise is the best shooter

1718
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 21: in the NBA, we don't know how consistent any of

1719
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 21: these guys are going to be. And then third, this

1720
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 21: team's flawed offensively. Marcus Smart, great guy, sets the tone.

1721
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 21: He's he has been a different spanker. But it's about

1722
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 21: team defense, and I just don't think that this current

1723
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 21: group has the personnel to do that. So what is

1724
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 21: this me and Bernie. They'll make the playoffs, but it's

1725
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 21: a quick first round exit and maybe second round they

1726
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 21: get a favorable opponent, you know as a fourth seed

1727
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 21: or a five seed. But that's that. And now it

1728
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 21: means this offseason they really got to retool the roster

1729
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 21: or low hanging fruit. Obviously try to get jadisnta takumpo,

1730
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 21: but if that doesn't happen, they got to get a

1731
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 21: defensive oriented roster. And I say that, knowing that the

1732
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 21: Lakers will it should keep Austin reeves by because I

1733
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,759
Speaker 21: think offensively that backcourt with Luke and Austin is really

1734
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 21: really good. They compliment each other really well, there's no

1735
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 21: that are really good friends. They share the ball well,

1736
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 21: there's no conflict there. But they have to have the

1737
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 21: right roster construction around them. And as a result of

1738
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 21: that not being the case this season, we're seeing many

1739
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 21: many flaws with this team.

1740
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 2: Well, you're certainly right about Lucas and Austin's offensive proclivities together.

1741
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 2: I mean they can mine for sixty seven points and

1742
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 2: twelve three pointers against the Clippers Friday night. But defensively,

1743
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 2: when those three are on the floor, it's not pretty.

1744
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 2: And Lebron's plus minus was minus seven, and that was

1745
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 2: in a win, which leads me to Lebron, I think

1746
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 2: it's fairly well a foregone conclusion. He will not be

1747
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 2: the Lakers next year. Would he honestly accept the three

1748
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 2: point nine million dollars veterans minimum or someone else? Well,

1749
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: why would you give him more? Why? Because there's one

1750
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 2: other thing too, Mark my Scott told me, because you

1751
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 2: get into you get into crunch time, two or three

1752
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 2: minutes to go, you really might have to take Lebron

1753
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: off the floor if you want the best chance of

1754
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 2: winning to get a stop. Who is going to be

1755
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 2: willing to do that without the outcry and the you

1756
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 2: know this cloud hanging over the team, you've got the floor.

1757
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think with Lebron it's it's not about veterans minimum,

1758
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 21: even mid level. I could see a team, including the Lakers,

1759
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 21: be offering him something and stowing the ten fifty million

1760
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 21: dollar range. And I know that, you know, for us,

1761
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 21: it's a lot of money, but he's making fifty two

1762
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 21: million this season, so that's still a significant pay cut.

1763
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 21: I think the bigger question is, Okay, with that pay cut,

1764
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 21: what does the rest of the roster look like? But

1765
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 21: I can't see Lebron coming back to the Lakers, even

1766
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 21: if they keep the window open. If the Lakers were

1767
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 21: really serious about keeping the window open for Lebron to

1768
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 21: come back after the season, they would have signed him

1769
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 21: to an extension, right exactly. So I think this is

1770
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 21: just about they don't want to be seen as pushing

1771
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 21: them out. They want to give technically Lebron the chance, Hey,

1772
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 21: you're willing to come back if you, you know, bend

1773
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 21: over backwards and take this gigantic pay cut, which again,

1774
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 21: like he's produced so much revenue for a lot of

1775
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 21: teams in the NBA. He's one of the best players.

1776
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 21: He doesn't need to chase a championship, and even if

1777
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 21: he were to do that, he might get criticism for

1778
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 21: being a ring chaser.

1779
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 16: Right.

1780
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 21: So with all that, he's going to take a pay cut.

1781
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 21: It's just as a matter of how severe it is,

1782
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 21: and so I don't see the vat minimum being on

1783
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 21: the table. I think that he'll take a relative pay

1784
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 21: cut go to Cleveland. They have a good core there.

1785
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 21: He obviously has that connection with Cleveland and he can

1786
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 21: have that farewell tour in his backyard.

1787
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be shocked even if he settled for ten million.

1788
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 2: But the issue is you got to put players around

1789
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 2: him in the NBA does have a salary cap, so

1790
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 2: those are issues. I've also heard tell me if you've

1791
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 2: heard this as well, that Lebron is going to have

1792
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: a camera crew follow him for his farewell tour and

1793
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 2: I'm told he might be able to sell the rights

1794
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 2: to that whole programming as it were in the neighborhood

1795
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: of forty million dollars. Have you heard that.

1796
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 21: Well, I don't know money, but look, there's cameras following

1797
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 21: them all the time, so I want to be surprised

1798
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 21: that's already going to be photoed. She has the uninterrupted platform.

1799
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 21: So whether he plays next season or not, I mean,

1800
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 21: all this stuff skin documented, so I don't think that's

1801
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 21: necessarily new.

1802
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: There's zero chance he doesn't play next season.

1803
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 21: I'll oh, he plays next season. I'm just saying, yeah,

1804
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 21: regardless of that, he's had camera He's had camera cameras.

1805
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: I realize that, but I'm talking about specific, this specific

1806
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 2: intention of like I don't know if you saw the

1807
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 2: ABA documentary on Amazon Prime. The four part is pretty good.

1808
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about specific production value within all that stuff,

1809
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 2: So we'll set that aside for down. Finally, is there

1810
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 2: any truth the Lakers will pursue Jannis?

1811
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 16: Oh?

1812
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,640
Speaker 21: Yeah, for sure, they'll pursue them, But I don't know

1813
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 21: if the Bucks will say yes. But the Lakers are

1814
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 21: in a better position than they were, you know before.

1815
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 21: I mean, I don't think they could even make really

1816
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 21: a respectable offer. But here the Lakers are going to

1817
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 21: have a draft pick, They're going to have cap space

1818
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 21: to work with. They have some role players that you know,

1819
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 21: they're not great individually, but you package it together. So yeah,

1820
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 21: they're gonna try to be a player with Giannis. But

1821
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 21: I mean, frankly, so are a lot of other teams.

1822
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 21: And that's where the Bucks are going to evaluate, you know,

1823
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 21: is this worth trading intergenerational star? And it's you know, specifically,

1824
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 21: it's hard to say what they want because they turned

1825
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 21: down a lot of good deals during this pass trade deadline.

1826
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 21: But obviously that combination of all star caliber players some

1827
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 21: good rotational pieces draft picks, But what exactly that looks

1828
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 21: like remains to be seen, all Right.

1829
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 2: Mark, onwarding up. We're twenty games left and I think

1830
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 2: it's going to be fast and furious finish. We'll talk

1831
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 2: to you next week.

1832
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 21: Yes, sir, looking forward to as all right?

1833
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark, Mark Medina, Adina Magic are Fox Sports Radio, Google.

1834
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 2: We try to cover it all here. There are frankly

1835
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 2: more stories, more story lines around the NBA right now

1836
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 2: than I can I could remember in quite some time,

1837
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 2: and their legitimate storylines. It's not like we're fishing for

1838
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,799
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1839
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1840
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1841
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1842
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,720
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1845
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1846
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:53,320
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1847
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. We're coming to your line from Las Vegas.

1848
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,240
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1849
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:00,440
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1850
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1851
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1853
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1854
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 2: Or back at the Bernie Frattle Show as promised. Here's

1855
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,560
Speaker 2: a quick list of notable incidents involving Draymond Green his

1856
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 2: colorful NBA career. Twenty thirteen, he was ejected for a

1857
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 2: flagrant foul on Blake Griffin. He was fining fifteen thousand

1858
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 2: because he wouldn't leave the court promptly. Three years later,

1859
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 2: he kicked Stephen Adams in another region during the playoffs,

1860
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 2: find twenty five grand. That same playoffs, he swung at

1861
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 2: Lebron James Groin I detective pattern and that was in

1862
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, got suspended for Game five. Cleveland went

1863
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 2: on to win the series. Twenty eighteen, Lebron or checked

1864
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 2: that Draymond was suspended for one game after an argument

1865
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 2: with his teammate Kevin Durant. Four years later, he punched

1866
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 2: another teammate, Jordan Poole, in practice. He was fined. Twenty

1867
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:10,759
Speaker 2: twenty three, he stomped on Demontes Sibonis. He was suspended

1868
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 2: one game. Twenty twenty three later, he had a choke

1869
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 2: hold on Rudy Gobert was suspended five games. Twenty twenty

1870
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 2: three was his manner year. Later on in the season,

1871
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,440
Speaker 2: he struck Usup Nurkic in the face, got an indefinite suspension,

1872
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 2: ended up being twelve games. Finally, later in twenty twenty three,

1873
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 2: he got his sixteenth technical foul for the season, was

1874
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 2: suspended one game and last for not least Earlier this season,

1875
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 2: he got a technical foul for tilling the ref not

1876
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 2: to put his hand in his face, citing racial disrespect.

1877
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 2: But we digress, all right. Speaking of digressing, guess what

1878
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. Tyrek Hill, once one of the most feared

1879
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 2: offensive players in the National Football League, was released by

1880
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins last Monday. I don't know where he

1881
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: ends up, but I am mildly curious he ends up.

1882
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:10,520
Speaker 2: In Brandon's Fantasy Finals. It's time Brandon's Fantasy Finals.

1883
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 8: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football

1884
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 8: segment yet.

1885
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 18: One, going.

1886
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 4: What's up, Bernie, It's Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch here

1887
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 4: on The Bernie Fratto Show, and speaking of Tyreek Hill,

1888
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 4: before I get into what I was gonna talk about,

1889
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting to see where some of these

1890
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 4: free agents are inevitable free agents go. We saw the

1891
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 4: Cowboys dish out some money to Javonte Williams pretty early on.

1892
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 4: Obviously they had the rights to do that pre free

1893
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 4: agency because he plays for them. In plays for the team, right,

1894
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 4: But it's gonna be interesting to see where Tyree kill

1895
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 4: goes and how that affects, you know, his stature in fantasy,

1896
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 4: because I still think he's a top five round guy,

1897
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 4: even coming off of an ACO. I know he'll go

1898
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 4: in round nine, round ten, but again, you play for championships.

1899
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 4: You don't play for week one through week five and whatever.

1900
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't an acl but he tore his whole leg up.

1901
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk a little bit about running backs

1902
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 4: today in the draft process because next week, a week

1903
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 4: from today, Bernie will be done with the forty yard

1904
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 4: dashes for the running backs, the quarterbacks, and the wide

1905
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 4: receivers the most important positions pretty much, running backs, wide

1906
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 4: receivers in fantasy football. Right. The combine forty yard dashes

1907
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 4: for them is next Saturday. Okay, so by the time

1908
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 4: we're talking and doing fantasy fouls next weekend, we will

1909
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 4: have some more information about these running backs and a

1910
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 4: very very interesting running back draft. Because there's Jeremiah Love.

1911
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 4: We know he's not gonna run at the combine. He's

1912
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 4: not gonna be there. I'll just have a pro day.

1913
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 4: He's going top ten, right, But everybody else, there's really

1914
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 4: not a clear RB two in the draft. Some people

1915
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 4: say Jonah Coleman from Washington, some people say Mike Washington

1916
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 4: from Arkansas. I was moving up. Some people even say

1917
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 4: Emmitt Johnson from Nebraska, who wasn't even seen as a

1918
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 4: top five round guy until later on in the season

1919
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 4: after a stellar campaig for Nebraska. And I wanted to

1920
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 4: give you a couple of names to watch out because

1921
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 4: if these guys can have a good forty yard dash,

1922
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 4: if they test well, I'm not saying it one hundred

1923
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 4: percent makes them fantasy relevant. Because there are the Kiren

1924
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 4: Williams of the world. And he ran a four or

1925
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 4: five eight I believe, or four six' four or something

1926
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 4: at the. Combine it wasn't that. GREAT i, mean you

1927
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 4: could look at wide Receiver Pooka akua famously did not

1928
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 4: run fast at the, combine and these are pretty SUCCESSFUL rams.

1929
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 4: Players but then you got the devon A, Chans, Right

1930
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 4: you've got the guys At Bucky irving who didn't have

1931
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 4: a great. COMBINE i think famously people remember he was

1932
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 4: sick and actually didn't run that fast and fell in

1933
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 4: the draft because of. It but there's gonna be a

1934
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 4: lot of information throwing. AROUND i wanted to highlight a

1935
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 4: few of these running backs considering this is such a

1936
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 4: weird draft and we know how valuable running backs are

1937
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 4: in fantasy. Football Mike Washington JUNIOR I i just mentioned

1938
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 4: six two two twenty three running. Back it reminds a

1939
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 4: lot of scouts Of Tank, bigsby maybe a little bit.

1940
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 4: Better the only concerning thing About Mike washington is he's

1941
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 4: not excellent in pass. Protection he's not a great pass,

1942
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 4: catcher so IN ppr leagues he's a little less. Valuable

1943
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 4: but definitely a guy that has breakaway speed and is

1944
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 4: explosive play. PERCENTAGE i believe ranked first in ALL fbs

1945
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 4: running backs last. Season he's that. Good he's gonna be

1946
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 4: a guy that, rises And i'm sure if he has

1947
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 4: a fast forty time and does well at the combine next,

1948
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,679
Speaker 4: weekend he's definitely a guy to look at for your. Dynasty.

1949
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 4: Teams Nick, SINGLETON i think people know about six foot,

1950
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 4: two twenty five From Penn. State they have two talented running,

1951
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 4: backs him and K Tron. ALLEN i think both will

1952
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 4: perform pretty well at the. COMBINE i think both will

1953
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 4: go top three rounds in a week running back. Class

1954
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,799
Speaker 4: BUT i think what's interesting, is regardless of what happens

1955
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 4: at this, combine there's only gonna be one running back

1956
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 4: taken in round. One, Now i'll give you even more

1957
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 4: of a hotter. TAKE i would not be show if

1958
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 4: there are no running backs taken in round two this.

1959
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 4: Year that's how weak this class. Is regardless of whether we,

1960
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,759
Speaker 4: Know Emma johnson's going to probably have a really big.

1961
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 4: Combine Jadarian price probably goes as the second running back

1962
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 4: in the, class and he played on the same team

1963
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,600
Speaker 4: As Jeremiah. Love those are the two running BACKS i

1964
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 4: like the. Most i'm interested to see What price does

1965
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 4: at the. Combine Kaylin block's another guy that's kind of

1966
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 4: popped off. Recently was Behind Roman hemby At, indiana but

1967
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 4: they had a nice little, tandem kind of like A

1968
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 4: Montgomery gibbs type of. Thing but in college, version both

1969
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 4: of those guys gonna be interesting What hemby runs BECAUSE

1970
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 4: theo is not that, fast And black obviously did incredible

1971
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 4: at The Shrine. Bowl interested to see about guys Like

1972
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 4: jay Not Leveon moss who didn't have the greatest, years

1973
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,759
Speaker 4: but we're seeing as huge transfer guys gonna be really

1974
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 4: interesting at the running back position really. Quickly i'll do

1975
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 4: a few guys at the wide receiver. POSITION i like

1976
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 4: a lot THAT i want to See Malachi fields as

1977
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,520
Speaker 4: a guy that people have started to really look at downfield.

1978
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 4: Threat interested to see what he. Runs Omar Cooper. Junior

1979
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 4: i'm not really concerned about what he, runs AND i you,

1980
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 4: know obviously that's indicative of our conversation last, Week. BERNIE

1981
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 4: i think he's going to be a pros pro. Regardless

1982
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 4: Denzel boston gonna be interesting six four two ten NINETY

1983
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 4: pff grade versus man coverage in a seventy seven percent

1984
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 4: contested catch, Right so if he runs, fast it's all

1985
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 4: all bets are on for him to go top fifteen

1986
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 4: in Actually, eclipse maybe A Makai lemon or A Carnel

1987
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 4: tait in case he concept, shown really interested to see

1988
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 4: what he, runs considering that's his best. Trait Chris burzel

1989
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 4: is another guy to look out for From tennessee At

1990
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 4: Dante thornton Or Deontay thornton type of, guy but a

1991
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 4: little bit. Better so gonna be super. Interesting that's The

1992
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 4: Fantasy files. Today we'll be recapping the combine next. Week

1993
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 4: i'll be telling you which guys to keep an eye

1994
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 4: on for your dynasty leagues and which GUYS i was

1995
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 4: most impressed. With back to, You bernie So, Brandon i'm in.

1996
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,759
Speaker 2: AGREEMENT i Think Jeremiah level will be the only running

1997
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: back drafted in the first, round And i'd be shocked

1998
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 2: if he goes in the top ten lists Of saints grab.

1999
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 2: Him But i'm glad you talked about running backs because

2000
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:09,759
Speaker 2: all of a sudden there's three stud free agent running Backs,

2001
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 2: Breesaw Kenneth, walker and Now Travis Aten. Jr do you

2002
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 2: expect him to, command you, know great attention in the

2003
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 2: fantasy market because you never know what happens when you

2004
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 2: go to a new.

2005
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 4: Team, yeah it's it's, interesting. RIGHT i Think Kenneth walker

2006
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 4: is going to price himself out of most. Places he's

2007
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 4: going back To. SEATTLE i don't think there's any question

2008
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 4: they have a ton of cap. SPACE i think they're

2009
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 4: going to use that to reward. Him. Etn i'd be

2010
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 4: shocked If jacksonville lets him, go just BECAUSE i haven't

2011
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 4: seen enough from Basehel tuten and the. Guys they Have

2012
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 4: LeQuinn allen to trust them a, lot And breestal is

2013
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 4: gonna get. Tagged SO i, AGAIN i don't see them going.

2014
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 4: ANYWHERE i think they remain with their. Teens etn has

2015
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 4: the highest chance of becoming A Kansas city. Chief we

2016
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 4: know The chiefs have been looking for that and looking

2017
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 4: for a new running. Back don't count out, This. Bernie

2018
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 4: watch out For devan on Eight chan being traded to The.

2019
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 4: Chiefs that's SOMETHING i feel. Like no one's talking about

2020
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 4: superstar running. Back miami's obviously. REBUILDING i could see them

2021
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 4: entertaining some offers for.

2022
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 2: Him he fits their. OFFENSE i would say this, Also

2023
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: i've got my Und Kenneth. WALKER i think he deserves

2024
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 2: whatever he can get the way he carried that team

2025
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 2: Without Matt charbona and The Super, bowl and Also Jackson

2026
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 2: smith And jiggas says he wants brings truck. Money you,

2027
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 2: Know Jamar chase is making forty. Million what's he gonna?

2028
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 2: Want they Can seattle a forty pay both of those.

2029
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 4: Guys, YEAH i think they. CAN i think they. WILL

2030
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 4: i mean they'll let a few guys, go like Boy

2031
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 4: MafA on the edge right. THERE i, mean he'll command

2032
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,879
Speaker 4: like forty million in free. Agency they'll lose some defensive,

2033
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 4: players and they'll inevitably be. WORSE i don't See seattle

2034
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 4: making it even. Close back to The Super bowl next.

2035
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: Year all, right good, stuff great research. Appreciated Brandan deutsch

2036
01:50:54,560 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 2: and his fantasy files coming. Up, well could The bears

2037
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: really move To? Indiana, okay it's a serious. Possibility AM

2038
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 2: i predicting?

2039
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 7: It?

2040
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 2: No is it fifty to? Fifty, yeah it's fifty to.

2041
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: Fifty it is fifty to. Fifty, now keep only in,

2042
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 2: MIND i believe that they have at least six years

2043
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 2: remaining un their lease With Soldier, field at least five.

2044
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 2: Years so this isn't going to happen. Tomorrow but let

2045
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 2: me tell you what has happened and some of the

2046
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 2: action steps that have taken, place and these are not

2047
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:37,719
Speaker 2: to be trifled. With these are very serious action. Steps

2048
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 2: and the potential move to ham In, indiana which is

2049
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 2: about twenty five minutes south Of. Chicago, okay we'll talk

2050
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 2: about that coming. Up I'm Bernie fraddle or company line

2051
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 2: from The Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio. Studios keep it,

2052
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: locked can listen to The Bernie.

2053
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: Frattleship you're listening To Fox Sports Radio.

2054
01:51:56,160 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 2: Radio all, right back in The Burning Fritle, Show Fox Sports.

2055
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 2: Radio coming up about fifteen. Minutes ten Year major league

2056
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: Veteran Larry, sorenson thirty year. Broadcaster we're gonna talk about

2057
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 2: some of these storylines heading into The Major League baseball

2058
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Season he very much has his finger

2059
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 2: on the. Pulls if you heard my opening, monologue there's

2060
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 2: a cloud over the, season, alright and it's gonna stay.

2061
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 2: There but, MAN i was loving spring training, games and,

2062
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 2: YEAH i watched watch some of them On, saturday and

2063
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 2: we'll watch them over tomorrow or today or. Whatever all,

2064
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 2: right you're hearing it blowing in the. Wind could The

2065
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 2: Chicago bears really move To? Indiana all, right let's just

2066
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 2: stick with the, facts. Man all, right there's been legitimate.

2067
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 2: Progress i'll have potential move To, Hammond, indiana which is

2068
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 2: about twenty five miles south Of. Chicago and before everybody

2069
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 2: loses their, mind what the forty nine ers? Play forty

2070
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 2: five minutes south Of San. Francisco for YEARS i covered

2071
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 2: The lions in The Silver dome that was In, pontiac

2072
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 2: The New York jets And New York giants they play

2073
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 2: In New. Jersey BUT i digress all. Right On february,

2074
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 2: nineteenth just three days, ago The Indiana house And Ways

2075
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 2: committee unanisomally voted twenty four to nothing on an amendment

2076
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:28,560
Speaker 2: Called Senate bill twenty. Seven what that does is creates

2077
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 2: The Northwest Indiana Stadium, Authority and so now they're in

2078
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 2: power to acquire land issue. Bonds they can finance a

2079
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 2: multi billion dollar. Facility and by the, way The bears

2080
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 2: have pledged they did this three years ago to contribute

2081
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 2: two billion toward construction of a. Stadium as a matter of,

2082
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 2: fact three years ago to the day The bears purchased

2083
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty six. Acres it was Formerly Arlington

2084
01:53:55,800 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 2: International Race. Course but sure, Enough chicago, politics there's all

2085
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:05,719
Speaker 2: sorts of disputes over property tax, assessments lack of state funded,

2086
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 2: infrastructure and it's already delayed the. Project and if you

2087
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: had any thoughts on maybe them keeping the stadium near

2088
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 2: The chicago lake, front they were plans for a new

2089
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 2: dome stadium adjacent To Soldier. Field they were rebuffed by

2090
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 2: state lawmakers because there was a high level of public

2091
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 2: investment that would have been. Required. Huh, okay they're put

2092
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 2: in the odds of this happening at about fifty. Fifty.

2093
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 2: Okay Indiana's Governor Mike, brown he's kind of riding high

2094
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 2: on this. One he posted ON xt That indiana is

2095
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 2: open for business and that they have a very pro

2096
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: growth environment and they're attracting all kinds of major, opportunities

2097
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 2: and he likes this partnership With Chicago. Bears he's even

2098
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 2: gone so far as to say we will still call

2099
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 2: them The Chicago, bears even though they would technically be In, Hammond. Indiana.

2100
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 2: Okay now, again The New York giants and The New

2101
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 2: York jets play In New jersey for. Years The rams

2102
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 2: played At Angel stadium In, anaheim The BIG a before

2103
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 2: they moved To Saint louis in nineteen ninety. Five so

2104
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 2: none of this is. New they're teams that don't AS

2105
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 2: i just, said The San francisco forty nine ers play

2106
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 2: In Santa, clara which is forty five minutes. South, Okay

2107
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 2: So this bill is slated to pass The house floor

2108
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 2: and then return to The Indiana State senate to approve the,

2109
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 2: amendments and then it gets to that point goes To

2110
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 2: Governor bronze desk to be, signed and they're moving, quickly

2111
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 2: they're fast. Trackingness this is all Before indiana's and their

2112
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 2: legislative session ends for the year coming up next. Week

2113
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 2: when you look at this unanimous twenty four to zero

2114
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: approval within the, ways it means committee that better grab

2115
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 2: your attention if you're A bears fan living In. Illinois,

2116
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 2: okay there is a lot of bipartisan momentum In indiana

2117
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 2: to create this effort to lure The bears. There AND

2118
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 2: i think all of a Sudden thursday, Now illinois state,

2119
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 2: OFFICIALS i mean a year, Ago Governor pritzker thumbda his

2120
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 2: nose that it laughed at it said it's a. Fantasy

2121
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 2: not so much now he's changed his. Tune Brandon, JOHNSON

2122
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 2: i don't know what he's got to, say but not.

2123
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 2: Much but it was a truly a key, step truly

2124
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 2: a key, step and it really highlights the possibility that

2125
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 2: The bears could move To ham In. Indiana what remains

2126
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: to be seen now is how does The illinois legislature

2127
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 2: respond because now the pressure is on. Them So indiana

2128
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 2: would still own the land in The hammonds. Scenario and

2129
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 2: again talked about this a minute. Ago The bears have

2130
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 2: contributed or have committed to contribute two billion to a new,

2131
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 2: stadium no matter where their location. Is Now february, fifteen

2132
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, three they purchased land In Arlington, Night's, illinois

2133
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 2: which is where the stadium could. Go, however if they're

2134
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 2: going to remain In, illinois and by the, way if

2135
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 2: you're scoring a, home AND i hope you, are The

2136
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 2: Arlington park site is about thirty to thirty five minutes

2137
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 2: away from the current state. Stadium, ironically even though you're

2138
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 2: crossing state, Lines hammond's about twenty five minutes. Away but

2139
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 2: if The bears are going to remain In illinois and

2140
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: build on that Former Arlington park, site they're going to

2141
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: need what's called a Mega project's bill to pass Through,

2142
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 2: springfield and that would enable all the overseers of all

2143
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 2: the major construction projects across the state to start to

2144
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: negotiate property tax responsibilities with the local. Municipalities and they're

2145
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 2: in last. Problem, okay you, know they thought that they

2146
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 2: were making, progress and then all of a, sudden there

2147
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: was supposed to be a Meeting thursday. Morning it's Last

2148
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:13,919
Speaker 2: thursday morning with The Illinois House revenue And Finance, committee

2149
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 2: and it was. CANCELED i don't know. Why that's you,

2150
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 2: know That's illinois, politics all of a, sudden you.

2151
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 6: KNOW.

2152
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 2: Jb pritsker said THAT i. Guess he admitted that the

2153
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 2: reason that meeting didn't happen is because The bears canceled,

2154
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 2: it and That pritzker was very taken aback by The

2155
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 2: bear's position and their, statement and he felt that implied

2156
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 2: the team's departure To indiana WAS, IMMA i don't know

2157
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 2: if that's. TRUE i don't think anything. Exhibited AS i,

2158
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 2: SAID i think there's five more years left on the.

2159
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Lease But pritsker has said he's waiting for official word

2160
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 2: from the team on what they want to do. Next

2161
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 2: but he also said he's emphasizes in tempt to protect

2162
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 2: The illinoit taxpayers and, consumers and what the hell does

2163
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: that mean that you, know a dollar for two eighty

2164
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 2: you'll get you a couple of burgers at White castle

2165
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 2: there On. Addison All, right The bears have asked for

2166
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 2: governmental guarantees for infrastructure around the stadium, site and that

2167
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 2: Means rhodes sewers. Utilities he, says you don't think about

2168
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 2: there's a lot of new. Developments and here's the funny

2169
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 2: thing is that In, indiana the talks seem to move.

2170
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 2: Quickly they seem to move in a positive, direction and

2171
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 2: that culminated in that twenty four to zero. Vote all,

2172
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 2: right and there's still things that have to. Happen they

2173
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 2: have to vet this process of a proposed stadium And.

2174
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 2: Hammond for that project to get the green light is

2175
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 2: a major undertaking that in and of itself could take

2176
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 2: could take. Months all. Right BUT i will say, this

2177
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 2: and if you've paid any, attention the chairman of The,

2178
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 2: Bears george, McCaskey he's been very vocal that The bear

2179
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 2: have been very frustrated for some time at the lack

2180
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 2: of urgency that state legislators have shown regarded their proposed

2181
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 2: project In Arlington. Nights and that's one factor while the

2182
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 2: team started to get more serious in Exploring indiana as

2183
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 2: a contingency. Plan all, Right, indiana their lawmakers are celebrating

2184
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 2: this and they're moving Quickly illinois is not out of their. Running,

2185
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 2: Okay i'm not predicting that at. All the truth of

2186
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:28,320
Speaker 2: the matter, is though we're going to continue to follow this.

2187
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 2: Story this is not a. Zero it's probably a fifty

2188
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 2: to fifty. Deal IT'S i will say it's a fifty

2189
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 2: to fifty deal that this could. Happen sounded Like. Keresey,

2190
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 2: Well i'll call you a. Congressman then if you're worried about,

2191
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 2: it cut it. Up we talked, Baseball Larry, sorenson keep it.

2192
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 2: Locked you listening to The Bernie it's, right you heard the.

2193
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 2: Man Bernie foders show keeps rolling right. Along we're coming

2194
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 2: to you from The Las Vegas Fox Sports radio. Studios

2195
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 2: will taking up to three And pacific six Am eastern

2196
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 2: was welcome in a gentleman long overdue to get in

2197
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 2: back on the. Show Is baseball is upon? Us thirty

2198
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 2: year broadcasting career The Baseball, NETWORK, Espn Detroit, tigers among.

2199
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 2: Others tenure Major league baseball career highlighted by his appearance

2200
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 2: in The All Star game where he retired nine straight

2201
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 2: hitters for them Being hall of. Famers say hello To.

2202
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 2: Will Larry. Sorenson, Larry i'm glad to get you.

2203
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 7: Back how you're, Doing, bernie always good to talk to.

2204
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 7: You i'm still trying to figure out exactly HOW i

2205
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 7: got nine guys in a row out BECAUSE i don't

2206
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 7: remember any of.

2207
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 2: It, well it might have been ten in a row

2208
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 2: if you'd covered first base on bow was, hit but

2209
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 2: we won't go. There you threw, Strikes, Buddy you threw,

2210
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 2: strikes and you had a good wrinkle on the. Ball

2211
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 2: before we get to the elephant in the room with

2212
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 2: all the storylines in, BASEBALL i would like to get

2213
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 2: your opinion on the debut it has been under the

2214
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 2: minor leagues on THE Abs Robot Umpire challenge. System your

2215
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 2: thoughts how you think it'll be implemented and received In

2216
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 2: Major League baseball. Games, well it.

2217
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 7: Got very positive reviews when they used it last, year

2218
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 7: and they've been working on the system for a very long.

2219
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 7: TIME i think there will still be some confusion over.

2220
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 7: IT i think there will still be players that try

2221
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 7: to figure out the best way to use it to their.

2222
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 7: Advantage the biggest thing THAT i think they have to

2223
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 7: make sure they do is do not let it interfere

2224
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 7: with the flow of the. Game it's great to get

2225
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 7: the call. RIGHT i think part of what makes faithball

2226
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 7: so charming is that we do have human. Error we

2227
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 7: have a category for. It they call them errors when

2228
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 7: players make, them so there is room for human. Failure,

2229
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 7: now you want to get the call right absolutely as

2230
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:39,960
Speaker 7: much as. Possible but if they can keep the game moving,

2231
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 7: along and it appears that this system, does THEN i

2232
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 7: think if we correct a call here and, there it's

2233
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,320
Speaker 7: not going to do anything except help the integrity of the.

2234
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 2: Game, well in my, sentiments, exactly it's the implementation of,

2235
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 2: this not the. Ideology so only, batters pitchers or catchers

2236
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 2: contriguer a challenge in your. Career did you ever have

2237
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 2: the notion to, say wait a, minute where was that?

2238
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 2: Pitch would you would you have taken full? Advantage?

2239
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 22: Oh all the, time all the.

2240
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 7: Time one of my bragging points is the fact THAT

2241
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 7: i Faced Tony gwynn six times And i've struck him out,

2242
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 7: once and it was because the umpire missed a three two.

2243
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 22: Pitch.

2244
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 7: Oh you, know it goes every way that you possibly,

2245
02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 7: can and you get just as many as they, missed you,

2246
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 7: know as many go in your favor as don't go

2247
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 7: in your.

2248
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:26,960
Speaker 22: Favor so it does balance.

2249
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 7: Out it's like the guy that hits the line drive

2250
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 7: and it's right after third, base and that's an, out great,

2251
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 7: pitch Right and the next guy you break his bat

2252
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 7: and it goes one hundred and eight feet over the

2253
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 7: first basin's head for a base. Hit, well they.

2254
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 2: Even out very, true the Dreaded adam. Ball but then,

2255
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:45,760
Speaker 2: again you pitchers don't like, those you, know duck farts

2256
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 2: and ugly finders, either so it. Does let's talk about

2257
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 2: The World Baseball classic as. WELL i gotta tell, You,

2258
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 2: LARRY i don't know if anybody beats His dominican. Team

2259
02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 2: they've got What Wan, Soto Fernando tatistan vlad Jor japans.

2260
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 2: Defending what are your early thoughts on The World Baseball.

2261
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:07,560
Speaker 7: Classic it'll all come down to. Pitching what pitchers are

2262
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 7: ready to, go you, know what pitchers are prepared for.

2263
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 7: It who stays healthy through the course of, IT i

2264
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:13,840
Speaker 7: think will be.

2265
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:14,920
Speaker 16: A little bit of what.

2266
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 7: Happens but baseall always seems to come down to the.

2267
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 22: PITCHING i don't.

2268
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 7: Know that you can pick a preseason favorite because who

2269
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 7: knows what kind of shape everybody is. In but it's

2270
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 7: a great event that will attract a lot of attention

2271
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 7: for baseball is the biggest thing THAT i. Need it's

2272
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 7: just it's. Hard it's hard for me to fathom the

2273
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 7: different tournaments and the different times in the seasons that

2274
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 7: they play, them and the way they disrupt schedules and

2275
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:45,520
Speaker 7: in all the Sports i'm talking about overall in, general it's.

2276
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 22: An interesting, proposition.

2277
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 7: BUT i think, overall the fact that it's going to

2278
02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 7: garner attention for the sport itself and the biggest stars

2279
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 7: will be on display for the world to see is

2280
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 7: a good.

2281
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 2: Thing, yeah you just nailed. It they want to internationalize

2282
02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 2: the game even. Further, This, yeah this does that With Larry,

2283
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 2: sorenson ten year major, leaguer thirty year broadcasting. Career all,

2284
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:10,000
Speaker 2: right let's get to the elephant in the, room BECAUSE

2285
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 2: i think it's going to cast a paul over the entire.

2286
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 2: Season there will be a threat of a. Lockout as

2287
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 2: a matter of, Fact i'd go so far as to

2288
02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 2: say the owners will lock them Out december. First doesn't

2289
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 2: mean we miss, games but go ond layout for the

2290
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 2: folks what the key issue. Is and you mentioned something

2291
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 2: on the phone the other, day is this union current

2292
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 2: union of players as strong as it, was say in

2293
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety, four you got the.

2294
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 7: Floor, NO i don't think that the union is as

2295
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 7: strong as it was in the. PAST i think that

2296
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 7: as a society we have become so much more.

2297
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 22: Individualized and one of.

2298
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 7: The things that was preached to, us AND i got

2299
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 7: to the major league very. QUICKLY i get to the

2300
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 7: major leagues a year out of The university Of, michigan

2301
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 7: and my third YEAR i was an alternate player rep

2302
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:59,360
Speaker 7: for The Milwaukee brewers And Buck martinez was our player

2303
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 7: rep at the, time who is still a force within

2304
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 7: the baseball. World AND i think it was spreached to

2305
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 7: you when you got there that The union Under Marvin

2306
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:12,080
Speaker 7: miller was the one thing that the players, had that

2307
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 7: there was the strength of what the players could do

2308
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 7: in order to keep the game moving and keep the

2309
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 7: game changing and, progressing but in a positive fashion for

2310
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 7: all sides. Involved AND i think that society as a

2311
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 7: whole has become so individualized and we're also greedy THAT

2312
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 7: i think that that has changed. Some AND i believe

2313
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:37,760
Speaker 7: there are fragments of our player of The Players union

2314
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 7: that would be a little bit more diversified than they

2315
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 7: have been in the. Past having said all, THAT i

2316
02:06:43,400 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 7: think that there are some. Issues especially the salary cap

2317
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 7: is something that the players are going to vehemently, oppose

2318
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 7: AND i think it's something the owners are going to

2319
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 7: vehemently fight. For AND i think that that's going to,

2320
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 7: be in my, estimation the biggest sticking.

2321
02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 2: Point there's no question there's another to c entered the.

2322
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 2: Room i'm hearing that the owners are just simply pissed

2323
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:08,680
Speaker 2: off because they're claiming their franchise valuations aren't growing as

2324
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:13,440
Speaker 2: quickly as their other, counterparts say in THE nba or THE,

2325
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:17,839
Speaker 2: nfl and they're blaming the current financial system that Governs

2326
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 2: Major League? Baseball have you heard? That is their merit

2327
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 2: to that? Argument, well and so what do we go back?

2328
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 22: To we go back to individual?

2329
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:29,480
Speaker 7: Greed, Right, yeah my profits aren't growing as fast AS

2330
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 7: i want them to, be and yet the profits of

2331
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 7: those of those organizations are pretty significant when you look

2332
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:38,240
Speaker 7: at owners that have owned for a long. Time the

2333
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 7: thing that kills me is there's got to be better

2334
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 7: competitive balance between The, dodgers who will spend. Anything, Evidently

2335
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 7: i've found.

2336
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 6: A way to make it.

2337
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:50,320
Speaker 7: Profitable you, know we're looking at their payroll Of, however

2338
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 7: many hundreds of millions of. Dollars it, is and there's

2339
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 7: a handful of clubs that are over the three hundred

2340
02:07:55,440 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 7: million dollar marketing, salaries and they found a way to

2341
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 7: make that happen and the club remains. Profitable and yet

2342
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 7: you go to other organizations or they're at the other

2343
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 7: end of the spectrum and they, say, well we're paying

2344
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 7: one hundred million dollars that we can't afford to do. That,

2345
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 7: well then you shouldn't be in the. Business if you

2346
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:13,240
Speaker 7: can't afford to do that to remain competitive in the,

2347
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:16,360
Speaker 7: industry you shouldn't be in the business because bottom line

2348
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,680
Speaker 7: is that it is about winning games and winning The World,

2349
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 7: series or should.

2350
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:20,839
Speaker 22: Be it's.

2351
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 7: Not in my, opinion, again it's not a business to

2352
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 7: be in. Business it's a business to win the.

2353
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:29,000
Speaker 22: Business that's why.

2354
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 7: You get in.

2355
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 2: It, WELL i, agree AND i hope that's new not too.

2356
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 2: Idealistic when you hear comments, like.

2357
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 7: Oh i'm sure it. Is if you AND i agree on,

2358
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 7: it it must be too. Idealistic, well if.

2359
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:43,960
Speaker 2: You're starting to hear this rhetoric now that we heard

2360
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:46,840
Speaker 2: in ninety four one high ranking unnamed team official said

2361
02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 2: we're ready to burn the effing house, down And, LARRY

2362
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:52,360
Speaker 2: i remember like Yesterday's i'm sure you do. Too august,

2363
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 2: tenth nineteen ninety, Four tigers had a game at the

2364
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:58,200
Speaker 2: Old Tiger. Stadium it. Rained they got the game. In

2365
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:00,839
Speaker 2: i'm walking out With Mark wills said In Mike, hanneman

2366
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 2: and he looked at us and, goes we're going to

2367
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 2: be going. Awhile AND i didn't take it. Serious and,

2368
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 2: boy they were going a while following spring he had

2369
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 2: replacement players for a. Minute, uh let's fast.

2370
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 7: Forward it's hard to, yeah if you if you, remember

2371
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 7: if you Remember, bernie ninety five was the year THAT

2372
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:19,520
Speaker 7: i started broadcasting The. Tigers, yeah so we weren't down

2373
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 7: at spring, training and they called it all of a.

2374
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:24,320
Speaker 7: Sudden they called this One tuesday night and, said, hey

2375
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 7: we got a game On.

2376
02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 22: Friday you need to be here or. Whatever the day's.

2377
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:30,960
Speaker 7: Work and and so we had to report down and

2378
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:34,080
Speaker 7: do the replacement. Players And i'll never forget Ran Frank

2379
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:37,480
Speaker 7: bexman rest In. Peace said to me about one, guy, says,

2380
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 7: well here comes so and so what can you tell

2381
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 7: me about? HIM i, said he wears number sixty. Five

2382
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 7: that all the information about.

2383
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 2: It, yeah that's that's some very good inside baseball. There,

2384
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 2: WELL i remember you you had dubbed somebody Named Bernie

2385
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:57,440
Speaker 2: juniez as the secret, weapon and he hit a couple

2386
02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:59,400
Speaker 2: of diggers in spring training AND i asked you off

2387
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,640
Speaker 2: to de. Side he, Said, bernie he couldn't need a

2388
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 2: curb ball with a canoe, paddle never spent a day

2389
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:05,840
Speaker 2: in the big. Leagues you were, right you're.

2390
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 7: Right but you, know back to your point though about

2391
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 7: the owner that, said you, know we're ready to burn

2392
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 7: the house. Down that's, great that's. Nice who was the

2393
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 7: owner and how much influence does he, have because you,

2394
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:23,240
Speaker 7: know if you're not one of those half dozen power,

2395
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:26,280
Speaker 7: brokers your voice really doesn't matter all that.

2396
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 2: Much, well you, Know i'm concerned that cooler heads will not.

2397
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 2: Prevail and there's one qualitative. Difference in ninety, four the

2398
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:36,960
Speaker 2: players wanted to share the revenue and it got ugly

2399
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 2: and they canceled The World series and it. Worked now

2400
02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 2: they just want things to say the, same the. Irony

2401
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 2: we don't really need to change. Anything and, yeah The

2402
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:47,640
Speaker 2: dodgers spend, money but they spend seventy three percent of their,

2403
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 2: revenue which is far higher than a lot of other,

2404
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 2: teams so they're not hoarding. It so the QUESTION i

2405
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:57,760
Speaker 2: have for you, is are the owners that obstinate this

2406
02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 2: new group of owners and there's enough new ones to

2407
02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:02,520
Speaker 2: really believe they could get the players to cave on

2408
02:11:02,560 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 2: a salary.

2409
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 7: Cap that's a really good, question and it's really the

2410
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 7: crux of the, MATTER i, think because has that has

2411
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 7: the new breed that has entered because they have a

2412
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 7: lot of money and they want the, attention and they

2413
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 7: see it as a viable business instead of and you,

2414
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 7: KNOW i hate to go all old school on, you

2415
02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:27,120
Speaker 7: but instead of the sportsmen they used to own the

2416
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 7: organizations in a lot of, cases and we're doing it

2417
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 7: for the. Community and you know that sounds kind of idealistic,

2418
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,160
Speaker 7: too BUT i really think that there was a large

2419
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:40,840
Speaker 7: group of the owners that could afford, it that, said

2420
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 7: this is a great thing for our, community AND i

2421
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 7: can still make a profit at. It but part of

2422
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 7: the REASON i do it is BECAUSE.

2423
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:48,640
Speaker 6: I am a.

2424
02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 7: Sportsman and so they were willing to invest back into

2425
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 7: the business that they had instead of taking the money

2426
02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:56,920
Speaker 7: out of the business and putting it into one of

2427
02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 7: their other businesses like the owners seemed to. Do now

2428
02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 7: know it seems like everybody's got a big other company

2429
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:04,800
Speaker 7: and they're taking baseball money and putting it into their other.

2430
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 7: Businesses so we'll, see you, know we'll see how many

2431
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:12,280
Speaker 7: of the new, breed as it, were the have the

2432
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 7: grouping to overthrow the old school guys that wants the

2433
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 7: game to.

2434
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:17,080
Speaker 22: Continue.

2435
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:21,280
Speaker 2: Larry one of the points that the owners will argue

2436
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:24,920
Speaker 2: is that the declining revenue from regional sports networks has

2437
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:29,400
Speaker 2: started to create some financial pressure on certain, clubs and

2438
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:33,280
Speaker 2: they feel, that you, know complicates negotiations over revenue. Sharing

2439
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 2: is that going to be a factor in these negotiations

2440
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:37,160
Speaker 2: in your?

2441
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:41,200
Speaker 7: View, oh it absolutely will be a. Factor you, know

2442
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 7: a question about. That but let me ask you. This

2443
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:48,680
Speaker 7: the owners made the decision to use these regional sports

2444
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 7: networks as an entity to promote and produce their baseball

2445
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:57,360
Speaker 7: games on. Television sounds like a bad business, decision doesn't,

2446
02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 7: It and so we're going to cut. Salaries we made

2447
02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:06,520
Speaker 7: bad business decisions ABOUT. Tv and you, know however they

2448
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,080
Speaker 7: got down that, path it hasn't.

2449
02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:12,080
Speaker 22: Worked and when you see the multitude of teams.

2450
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 21: That have used that.

2451
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:15,280
Speaker 7: Package when they went into, it they thought it was

2452
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:18,800
Speaker 7: going to be a win, win win for their, organization

2453
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:20,680
Speaker 7: and they made a bad business decision.

2454
02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 2: Obviously, Well i'm going to enjoy the, season AS i

2455
02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 2: know you will, Too But i'm already getting tired of

2456
02:13:28,160 --> 02:13:30,480
Speaker 2: the group think echo chamber blowing in the win saying

2457
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 2: they think that the twenty seventh season could be. CANCELED i,

2458
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 2: mean that's that's skating way how. Far, Yeah but if

2459
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 2: that notion is out, there Sometimes i'm not saying it

2460
02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:43,920
Speaker 2: gets spoken into. Existence BUT i am concerned that spring

2461
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:46,080
Speaker 2: training would start on time in twenty twenty. Seven do

2462
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:46,600
Speaker 2: you agree with?

2463
02:13:46,640 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 7: That i'm concerned that we have an awful feeling in

2464
02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:54,880
Speaker 7: my heart and in my stomach that we're not going

2465
02:13:54,920 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 7: to get through the twenty six sees completely all about

2466
02:13:58,760 --> 02:13:59,720
Speaker 7: it being interrupted.

2467
02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:02,760
Speaker 2: Somehow, well, see that's a great. Point go, Ahead.

2468
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 7: LARRY i think that there's only so much leverage that you've,

2469
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:11,520
Speaker 7: got AND i got a bad feeling that we're not

2470
02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:12,840
Speaker 7: going to make it all the way through twenty.

2471
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 2: Six so that's what happened in ninety four when the

2472
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:18,760
Speaker 2: players voted to strike In, august or check that they

2473
02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 2: voted to strike In, june and they set, this you,

2474
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:24,320
Speaker 2: know the Date august, eleven and sun if they. Did

2475
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,440
Speaker 2: this is a new, wow this is a new, Wrinkle

2476
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:28,200
Speaker 2: this is a new run.

2477
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:30,440
Speaker 7: Well and it's based and it's based on you, know

2478
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:32,640
Speaker 7: talking to a few people in the baseball, industry but

2479
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 7: mostly just. This the president has been, there as you just,

2480
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:39,240
Speaker 7: Mentioned thank you very. Much AND i think that the

2481
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:41,600
Speaker 7: leverage of doing it in the season is going to

2482
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:43,920
Speaker 7: mean a lot more to people than saying all winter,

2483
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:46,120
Speaker 7: long oh we're not going to go to spring, training

2484
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 7: and in spring training gives you six. Weeks and you

2485
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:51,560
Speaker 7: know how people like to, procrastinate no.

2486
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:53,240
Speaker 2: Matter what we, do no matter what it.

2487
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:56,960
Speaker 7: Is in this, world what, business what. Industry people essentially are.

2488
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:59,640
Speaker 7: Procrastinators you, know we see it in our, government we

2489
02:14:59,640 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 7: see it our business. Life we see it in our

2490
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,640
Speaker 7: own regular, life or at LEAST i do not you

2491
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 7: because you're the perfect human, being but but we all

2492
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 7: procrastinate at some, point AND i just don't see. US

2493
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:13,640
Speaker 7: i really think.

2494
02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:15,520
Speaker 22: That the hammer is there during the.

2495
02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:19,440
Speaker 2: Season, yeah, no come and. Listen you've seen it from

2496
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:22,360
Speaker 2: the inside the. Outside and BEFORE i let you, run we.

2497
02:15:22,400 --> 02:15:25,880
Speaker 7: CAN'T i went on strike during the season nineteen eighty.

2498
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:32,000
Speaker 7: ONE i remember. That fifty, yeah fifty one days fifty

2499
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:36,400
Speaker 7: one thousand DOLLARS i remember, distinctly but it's you, know

2500
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:38,760
Speaker 7: IT'S i think that during the season is when the

2501
02:15:38,800 --> 02:15:42,080
Speaker 7: players really have the, hammer AND i have great fears

2502
02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:42,320
Speaker 7: for this.

2503
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:46,360
Speaker 2: Year well you, listen coming from, you that means a,

2504
02:15:46,360 --> 02:15:50,800
Speaker 2: lot BECAUSE i didn't think that in my lifetime we

2505
02:15:50,840 --> 02:15:55,800
Speaker 2: would ever see A World series. Canceled and now the

2506
02:15:55,880 --> 02:16:00,600
Speaker 2: eighty one thing that go? Ahead, Larry oh, GOD i was.

2507
02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:03,640
Speaker 7: DISAGREEING i remember.

2508
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:05,720
Speaker 2: The eighty one strike like. Yesterday it was right in

2509
02:16:05,720 --> 02:16:06,880
Speaker 2: the middle of the season and they had The All

2510
02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 2: Star game In. Cleveland and If i'm If i'm not,

2511
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:13,600
Speaker 2: mistaken that was the situation where the owners were demanding

2512
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:18,800
Speaker 2: compensation for losing players a free agency and the players associated, said, well,

2513
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 2: no we can't do that because you're going to put

2514
02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:23,600
Speaker 2: the kybosh on a free agency system restrain of. Trade

2515
02:16:23,640 --> 02:16:25,960
Speaker 2: and that was basically, it, right was that basically.

2516
02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:28,520
Speaker 7: The, Argument, larry which is which has been the goal

2517
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:31,280
Speaker 7: for a long long, time you, know free, agency and

2518
02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:34,760
Speaker 7: now now it's so, different so complicated and, convoluted you,

2519
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:37,400
Speaker 7: know in the players compensation and. Everything you can't you,

2520
02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:39,760
Speaker 7: Know Draft day comes and they start listing all the

2521
02:16:39,800 --> 02:16:44,039
Speaker 7: players from other, places and because of because of the

2522
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:47,119
Speaker 7: signings that you have at a certain level as a free.

2523
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:48,920
Speaker 22: Agent the kind of compensation that you.

2524
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:51,200
Speaker 7: Get you, know you can't watch the draft without a,

2525
02:16:51,240 --> 02:16:55,320
Speaker 7: scorecard but it Gets it gets to be a very interesting.

2526
02:16:55,360 --> 02:16:58,080
Speaker 7: Proposition and think about. This think about what other industry

2527
02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:02,080
Speaker 7: in the world there is where you are obligated to

2528
02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:06,200
Speaker 7: whoever chooses you to go play for. Them but before

2529
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 7: you get to play for, them you have to spend

2530
02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:12,480
Speaker 7: the first six years playing wherever they tell you to.

2531
02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 7: Play and then, finally at the end of, that if

2532
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:18,920
Speaker 7: they do call you up to the major league, team

2533
02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:23,360
Speaker 7: they have you for six more. Years so imagine a

2534
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:27,039
Speaker 7: lawyer being drafted by a law firm that, says we want,

2535
02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:29,119
Speaker 7: you you, know we eventually we want you to work

2536
02:17:29,160 --> 02:17:31,560
Speaker 7: In New, york but we think you need time In,

2537
02:17:31,720 --> 02:17:34,200
Speaker 7: Tallahassee florida. First then we're going to send you To.

2538
02:17:34,240 --> 02:17:37,520
Speaker 7: Peoria then we're going to send you out To sacramento

2539
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:40,640
Speaker 7: for a little, bit and then and we've got six

2540
02:17:40,720 --> 02:17:43,240
Speaker 7: years to do, that and you have no, alternative and

2541
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,840
Speaker 7: then you're going to come To New. York but we

2542
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:48,600
Speaker 7: own you for six years to work In New. York

2543
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:51,560
Speaker 7: and maybe you don't Like New, york maybe you want

2544
02:17:51,560 --> 02:17:55,920
Speaker 7: to work for your father that lives In. Detroit but you.

2545
02:17:55,920 --> 02:18:03,959
Speaker 2: Can very true it's time before that play free. Agency, yeah, well,

2546
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:07,279
Speaker 2: look we can do a whole show On Kurt flood

2547
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:10,360
Speaker 2: and baseball's reserve clause where you, were you, know you

2548
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:14,680
Speaker 2: were ascribed to indentured servitude for. Life And i've often

2549
02:18:14,680 --> 02:18:16,440
Speaker 2: Said Kurt fletcher have his own wing in The hall Of.

2550
02:18:16,480 --> 02:18:21,200
Speaker 7: Fame, yeah today's players really need to go back and

2551
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:24,120
Speaker 7: read some About Kurt flood and what he did in

2552
02:18:24,160 --> 02:18:27,920
Speaker 7: the sacrifices he made and essentially cost himself any kind

2553
02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:31,320
Speaker 7: of a career in baseball after. That but, yeah they

2554
02:18:31,640 --> 02:18:34,680
Speaker 7: all a huge debt of an obligation To Kurt.

2555
02:18:34,720 --> 02:18:39,279
Speaker 2: Flood and to your, point it's years before the player

2556
02:18:39,320 --> 02:18:43,080
Speaker 2: finally has the, hammer years and it's a tough. Process

2557
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:45,440
Speaker 2: i'm with, you all. Right we got to talk about

2558
02:18:45,560 --> 02:18:47,959
Speaker 2: the great project you've been involved with for probably the

2559
02:18:47,959 --> 02:18:51,080
Speaker 2: better part of over half a decade, now Pitch, logic

2560
02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:55,120
Speaker 2: THE f five. Group you've developed this sensor technology that

2561
02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:58,800
Speaker 2: really teaches young kids exactly what happens during every throw

2562
02:18:59,120 --> 02:19:01,400
Speaker 2: and how they can improve. Mechanics tell everybody about.

2563
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:05,760
Speaker 7: That, yeah you, know baseball now it's gone to the.

2564
02:19:05,800 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 7: Metrics and if you look at the, scoreboards you'll see

2565
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:11,199
Speaker 7: the kind of numbers that we can produce through a

2566
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:14,360
Speaker 7: circuit board that's inside of a baseball that's covered with

2567
02:19:14,560 --> 02:19:17,000
Speaker 7: leather that is the same as the leather that goes

2568
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:21,440
Speaker 7: around The Major league baseball and is actually the same,

2569
02:19:21,560 --> 02:19:24,880
Speaker 7: leather and it sort of looks and feels and does

2570
02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:27,680
Speaker 7: everything that the regular baseball, does but it sends the

2571
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:31,440
Speaker 7: numbers via bluetooth smoke back to your phone or a

2572
02:19:31,480 --> 02:19:34,760
Speaker 7: smart device and tablet that collects all that information on an.

2573
02:19:34,760 --> 02:19:38,600
Speaker 7: App and so your speed and your spin. Metrics it

2574
02:19:38,640 --> 02:19:40,720
Speaker 7: breaks it down to what kind of spin you put

2575
02:19:40,760 --> 02:19:44,080
Speaker 7: on the. Ball do you have rifle spin or backspin

2576
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:47,320
Speaker 7: or side spin the three components of your total. Spin

2577
02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:50,800
Speaker 7: it tells you how much vertical and horizontal movement that you,

2578
02:19:50,959 --> 02:19:53,600
Speaker 7: have and it tells you a couple of other really

2579
02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:56,400
Speaker 7: interesting numbers as well as well as collecting the video

2580
02:19:56,879 --> 02:19:59,960
Speaker 7: of you, throwing and that comes strictly from your smart,

2581
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 7: ice from your phone or your, tablets all collected into

2582
02:20:02,840 --> 02:20:05,000
Speaker 7: one app that stored in the. Cloud so it's an amazing.

2583
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:06,119
Speaker 22: Thing we just came out with a.

2584
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:10,440
Speaker 7: Softball about nine months or so, ago and it has been.

2585
02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 7: GANGBUSTERS ucla one of the best friend one of the

2586
02:20:13,800 --> 02:20:16,520
Speaker 7: best colleges in the, Country Oklahoma.

2587
02:20:15,959 --> 02:20:16,840
Speaker 22: State, Rutgers.

2588
02:20:16,879 --> 02:20:19,800
Speaker 7: Illinois there's a ton of colleges that are using a

2589
02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:23,400
Speaker 7: great powerhouses and we're expanding all the time with the softball.

2590
02:20:23,480 --> 02:20:27,160
Speaker 7: Project so we have softball and. Baseball you can get

2591
02:20:27,160 --> 02:20:29,800
Speaker 7: a team membership or you can get an individual. Membership

2592
02:20:29,959 --> 02:20:31,240
Speaker 7: just go to pitchlogic dot.

2593
02:20:31,240 --> 02:20:35,520
Speaker 2: Com pitchlogic dot com really really good, Stuff. Larry and

2594
02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:37,560
Speaker 2: one of the reasons you got those nine hitters out

2595
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 2: you hat strikes built into your livery and your release

2596
02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:43,039
Speaker 2: point was. Consistent, well it was. Consistent it's not easy

2597
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:44,920
Speaker 2: to get that arm in the slot at the same

2598
02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:48,360
Speaker 2: time every. Time i'm guessing this new software can help

2599
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:52,760
Speaker 2: you more consistently fix your release. Point AM i? Wrong?

2600
02:20:53,120 --> 02:20:53,440
Speaker 10: Yeah we.

2601
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:56,280
Speaker 7: Went we went to the convention In Las, vegas THE

2602
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:59,280
Speaker 7: nfca convention In Las, vegas and to talk of the

2603
02:20:59,320 --> 02:21:03,000
Speaker 7: convention with the fact that we actually show you your arms.

2604
02:21:03,080 --> 02:21:06,840
Speaker 7: Circle so when a softball pitcher winds, up you hold

2605
02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:08,720
Speaker 7: the ball still for about a quarter of a second

2606
02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:11,360
Speaker 7: and then you just go into your regular delivery and

2607
02:21:12,040 --> 02:21:15,440
Speaker 7: it shows you in THREE d the exact path that's

2608
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:18,119
Speaker 7: your arm takes and then you can overlay another pitch

2609
02:21:18,160 --> 02:21:20,160
Speaker 7: on top of that so you can see if you're

2610
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:23,520
Speaker 7: staying inside of the. Path AND i did a demo

2611
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:27,200
Speaker 7: in baseball where we showed that a relief pitcher for

2612
02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:30,520
Speaker 7: Acc school was about eight inches out of whack with

2613
02:21:30,640 --> 02:21:34,280
Speaker 7: his hand when he was in the backward extension of his,

2614
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:37,720
Speaker 7: arm and they fixed him during the. Demo they got

2615
02:21:37,760 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 7: his change up to go back into the slot of

2616
02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:43,360
Speaker 7: a fastball slider and he got vertical movement on it

2617
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:45,720
Speaker 7: and they fixed him during the. Demo so it's an amazing.

2618
02:21:45,800 --> 02:21:48,480
Speaker 7: Tool it shows you all kinds of. Information you can

2619
02:21:48,520 --> 02:21:51,600
Speaker 7: stop the, videos go back and, forth et, cetera et.

2620
02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:55,040
Speaker 7: Cetera there's all kinds of different information you can glean from.

2621
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:58,640
Speaker 2: It great. Stuff give the website one last, Time larry.

2622
02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:01,680
Speaker 7: Bitch large dot Com and if you want to get

2623
02:22:01,680 --> 02:22:04,160
Speaker 7: a membership for your, team you can get roster spots

2624
02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 7: for your entire team or your entire. LEAGUE i just

2625
02:22:06,440 --> 02:22:09,440
Speaker 7: did a package the other day that had fifteen softball

2626
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:13,039
Speaker 7: teams and eight baseball teams in a facility and they

2627
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 7: bought additional ball so that.

2628
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:15,640
Speaker 22: All the different teams could have.

2629
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:18,240
Speaker 7: One and you put a roster spot for every, player

2630
02:22:18,440 --> 02:22:21,039
Speaker 7: and you can each player gets his own file so

2631
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:23,480
Speaker 7: that they can keep his throat separate from everybody else

2632
02:22:23,480 --> 02:22:24,080
Speaker 7: and work on your.

2633
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:28,440
Speaker 2: Improvement appreciate your time and appreciate you getting up l. Early,

2634
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:29,400
Speaker 2: larry thanks a, lot.

2635
02:22:29,240 --> 02:22:32,400
Speaker 7: Buddy always the, Pleasure, Bernie.

2636
02:22:32,480 --> 02:22:36,480
Speaker 2: Thank you As Larry, sorenston tenure Major league, pitcher thirty year.

2637
02:22:36,520 --> 02:22:40,040
Speaker 2: Broadcaster obviously you hear hiss his very much as his

2638
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:43,440
Speaker 2: finger on the pulse in the game of. Baseball some

2639
02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:45,320
Speaker 2: was a very good pitcher. Too got to double a

2640
02:22:45,400 --> 02:22:48,879
Speaker 2: with The tigers. Organization coming, up we continue with The

2641
02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:51,640
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2642
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:53,400
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2643
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2644
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2645
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2646
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2647
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2648
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:27,440
Speaker 2: three hours right up until kickoff for all the best

2649
02:23:27,480 --> 02:23:30,240
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2650
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:33,160
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2651
02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:36,640
Speaker 2: sunday morning right here On Fox Sports radio and The

2652
02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:43,320
Speaker 2: iHeart radio. App well over seventy five thousand fans seventy

2653
02:23:43,320 --> 02:23:48,279
Speaker 2: five six seventy three ATTENDED Lafc Versus Enter Miami saturday

2654
02:23:48,320 --> 02:23:53,240
Speaker 2: night at The coliseum and across The. Pond Baaron munich

2655
02:23:53,320 --> 02:23:56,000
Speaker 2: also hosted seventy five thousand fans for a three to

2656
02:23:56,000 --> 02:24:01,720
Speaker 2: two victory Over frankfurt In germany on the same. Day

2657
02:24:02,720 --> 02:24:05,039
Speaker 2: soccer is in the year The World cup is upon.

2658
02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:09,879
Speaker 2: Us it's Time Chris Burfett's world Of, Soccer The.

2659
02:24:09,720 --> 02:24:23,320
Speaker 8: Greatest, goals the thrilling, finishes the INTERNATIONAL. DRUMO i, Am

2660
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:28,280
Speaker 8: it's all here in this report from The world Of.

2661
02:24:28,400 --> 02:24:32,760
Speaker 24: SOCCER i would hope that The olympics and especially hockey

2662
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:35,760
Speaker 24: has giving everyone a taste of how fun once again

2663
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:39,680
Speaker 24: international sport can be and the power of representing your,

2664
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:41,360
Speaker 24: country because we're gonna have a lot of it in

2665
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:45,000
Speaker 24: twenty twenty, six, starting of, course you know, this hockey

2666
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:50,240
Speaker 24: with The, olympics and very soon dovetailing into The World Baseball,

2667
02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:53,840
Speaker 24: classic which has personally the last two iterations of this

2668
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:57,760
Speaker 24: has been some of my favorite baseball to, watch especially

2669
02:24:57,879 --> 02:25:01,520
Speaker 24: last year was extremely and this year is shaping up

2670
02:25:01,560 --> 02:25:04,039
Speaker 24: to be a real bar and. Stormer and then of

2671
02:25:04,040 --> 02:25:07,800
Speaker 24: course come the summer and The World, cup the granddaddy

2672
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:09,959
Speaker 24: of them, all IF i may borrow that, phrase when

2673
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:13,840
Speaker 24: it comes to representing your country and international sport in

2674
02:25:13,879 --> 02:25:17,640
Speaker 24: this regard outside of individual like The, olympics should be

2675
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:22,000
Speaker 24: fascinating all the. Same i'm willing to PREVIEW mls in a,

2676
02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:23,840
Speaker 24: second but FIRST i do have to go back to

2677
02:25:23,879 --> 02:25:26,960
Speaker 24: my stomping grounds In england because WHAT i have feared

2678
02:25:27,040 --> 02:25:31,279
Speaker 24: has almost come to. PASS a big victory From Manchester

2679
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:35,280
Speaker 24: city On saturday to to one Over Newcastle united has

2680
02:25:35,520 --> 02:25:40,280
Speaker 24: now Put city within two points Of. Arsenal, yes once,

2681
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 24: again with just about eleven match days to. Go arsenal

2682
02:25:45,400 --> 02:25:50,360
Speaker 24: is once again beginning to. Slip the last two Matches

2683
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:53,640
Speaker 24: they've had, draws which means a single point each Against

2684
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:58,640
Speaker 24: wolverhampton and Against. Brentford, Meanwhile Manchester city finding their gear

2685
02:25:58,720 --> 02:26:01,480
Speaker 24: has done nothing but just a pounding people into the

2686
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:05,320
Speaker 24: dirt kind of what they. Do this win Against Newcastle,

2687
02:26:05,440 --> 02:26:10,320
Speaker 24: united it was very, nervy it was very. Tight Nic

2688
02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:13,920
Speaker 24: O'Reilly's second goal is what really put them, over And

2689
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:19,800
Speaker 24: Manchester city is now perfectly within striking, distance having four straight,

2690
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:24,560
Speaker 24: victories four straight wins to gain ground And arsenal fans

2691
02:26:24,600 --> 02:26:27,360
Speaker 24: have to be looking at themselves and, going oh, no

2692
02:26:27,959 --> 02:26:31,000
Speaker 24: here we go, again because it's the same story just

2693
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:34,840
Speaker 24: like we saw last. Year now a critical match will

2694
02:26:34,879 --> 02:26:41,320
Speaker 24: happen On sunday eleven thirty Am eastern. Time they're going

2695
02:26:41,360 --> 02:26:45,080
Speaker 24: To Tottenham. Hotspur if you're up after WATCHING Usa, canada

2696
02:26:45,280 --> 02:26:48,920
Speaker 24: this is a fantastic match to tune into, because, man

2697
02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:52,160
Speaker 24: this is going to Be If arsenal isn't get a

2698
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:54,560
Speaker 24: full three points out of, this watch. Out and by the,

2699
02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:57,760
Speaker 24: way not to discount them, Entirely Aston, villa who drew

2700
02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:00,879
Speaker 24: even Against leeds, today kind of uneven with. Them they're

2701
02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:03,760
Speaker 24: fifty one, points they're only seven points back Of, arsenal

2702
02:27:04,440 --> 02:27:07,160
Speaker 24: still within striking. Distance but really the one to worry

2703
02:27:07,160 --> 02:27:11,040
Speaker 24: about right now Is Manchester. City we'll talk about. Them

2704
02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:13,760
Speaker 24: we're also going to talk a little bit later on

2705
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:17,040
Speaker 24: On Another world Of soccer About Manchester, united who's clawing

2706
02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:20,160
Speaker 24: back to a top six, spot And liverpool who is

2707
02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:25,360
Speaker 24: struggling to stay within that top. Six, however this is On,

2708
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:30,760
Speaker 24: saturday the first match day FOR mls twenty twenty, six

2709
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:36,080
Speaker 24: Laf city against the crown champions Inter. MIAMI a fantastic

2710
02:27:36,360 --> 02:27:39,000
Speaker 24: high powered match was On APPLE tv for everyone to

2711
02:27:39,080 --> 02:27:43,600
Speaker 24: watch without the season. Past NOW i must say fantastic

2712
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:48,959
Speaker 24: idea and ella and. Look Inter miami rightly so has

2713
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:52,840
Speaker 24: won a ton of ton of, accolades a lot of

2714
02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:56,480
Speaker 24: attention because Of Lionel. Messi but it's a brand new

2715
02:27:56,520 --> 02:27:59,120
Speaker 24: season and the season changes That i'm hoping for AT

2716
02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:02,400
Speaker 24: mls are a few years. Away that all, SAID i

2717
02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:05,800
Speaker 24: think the two teams you watched On, saturday regardless of the,

2718
02:28:05,840 --> 02:28:08,600
Speaker 24: outcome are the two teams that are the favorites in

2719
02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:12,720
Speaker 24: their respective. Conference that's really not much of a. Surprise Intero,

2720
02:28:12,800 --> 02:28:16,080
Speaker 24: miami of, course has one of the best players in the,

2721
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:18,959
Speaker 24: world even though he is aid aging In Lionel. Messi

2722
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:24,000
Speaker 24: they have a strong supporting cast around. Them now they've

2723
02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:31,240
Speaker 24: Added Hermann deterrame From monterey From LIGA, mx a fantastic

2724
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:33,400
Speaker 24: high prolific goal, scorer should.

2725
02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:35,400
Speaker 3: Slot right in very well into THE.

2726
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:40,320
Speaker 24: MLS i am curious what their mean goals will, be

2727
02:28:40,400 --> 02:28:42,640
Speaker 24: if it will be for The CONKA Caaft Champions.

2728
02:28:42,680 --> 02:28:46,400
Speaker 3: Cup will it be ANOTHER Mls, cup will it.

2729
02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:50,440
Speaker 24: Be to be qualified for eventually The Club World cup

2730
02:28:50,480 --> 02:28:53,480
Speaker 24: down the, Line but we'll. See as FOR, lafc they

2731
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:57,760
Speaker 24: just need to lift some. Hardware they Lost Olivier jerud

2732
02:28:58,360 --> 02:29:01,880
Speaker 24: and they have got a lot of reinforcements in his.

2733
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:05,520
Speaker 24: Place and to be, honest this is going to be

2734
02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:10,040
Speaker 24: a big year FOR. Lafc they've kind of cemented themselves

2735
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:13,280
Speaker 24: in my opinion as the team year in and year.

2736
02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:15,039
Speaker 24: OUT i know there's a lot of attention always On Inter,

2737
02:29:15,120 --> 02:29:19,520
Speaker 24: miami BUT, lafc for the talent they have attracted year

2738
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:22,280
Speaker 24: in and year, out for the attention they, get for

2739
02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:27,160
Speaker 24: the finishes they, get they are the royalty OF. Mls

2740
02:29:27,320 --> 02:29:30,480
Speaker 24: they are the ones to beat in my mind any given.

2741
02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:32,320
Speaker 24: YEAR i know it's a little bit more open IN

2742
02:29:32,440 --> 02:29:35,120
Speaker 24: mls versus some of these other leagues out, there BUT

2743
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:38,199
Speaker 24: i still THINK i like them for The Supporters shield this, year.

2744
02:29:38,520 --> 02:29:40,440
Speaker 3: And really that's all it. Is in my.

2745
02:29:40,560 --> 02:29:43,680
Speaker 24: Mind there's always a, young fun team somewhere IN mls

2746
02:29:43,720 --> 02:29:46,360
Speaker 24: that because the format OF mls will get a chance

2747
02:29:46,400 --> 02:29:49,160
Speaker 24: to shine at some. Point BUT i think a lot

2748
02:29:49,160 --> 02:29:52,760
Speaker 24: of those candidates all come with. Caveats Philadelphia, union who

2749
02:29:52,800 --> 02:29:55,520
Speaker 24: we've usually seen come out of The, east struggles to spend.

2750
02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:58,760
Speaker 24: Money they spend a lot of money this offseason four

2751
02:29:58,760 --> 02:30:02,680
Speaker 24: point five. Million that's a club transfer record on a old,

2752
02:30:02,720 --> 02:30:07,119
Speaker 24: Forward Ezekiel alado from A swedish, side but he's fairly.

2753
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:10,040
Speaker 24: AGED i don't Think San DIEGO fc can avoid the

2754
02:30:11,720 --> 02:30:14,640
Speaker 24: regression that usually happens with a lot of young clubs

2755
02:30:14,680 --> 02:30:18,080
Speaker 24: that we, see like Say Saint Louis city completely falling our.

2756
02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:21,800
Speaker 24: Apart are we going to SEE Fc cincinnati keep doing this?

2757
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:23,920
Speaker 24: AGAIN i don't. Know Red bull could be, fun but

2758
02:30:23,959 --> 02:30:25,840
Speaker 24: they're still struggling to put a lot of things. Together

2759
02:30:26,440 --> 02:30:29,080
Speaker 24: but THAT'S. Mls that's the world of. Soccer we'll see

2760
02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:29,600
Speaker 24: you next, Time.

2761
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:30,040
Speaker 3: Bernie.

2762
02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:35,560
Speaker 2: Enjoy this is going to catch fire fast and, furious trust,

2763
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:39,720
Speaker 2: me as we get closer to what'll be the Largest

2764
02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:44,680
Speaker 2: World cup tournament. Ever All, right we are two hours

2765
02:30:44,680 --> 02:30:46,800
Speaker 2: and twenty two minutes, away or about two hours and

2766
02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:50,160
Speaker 2: thirty two minutes away actually from what promises to be

2767
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:53,480
Speaker 2: an epic gold medal hockey. Game we're going to preview

2768
02:30:53,560 --> 02:30:56,959
Speaker 2: that as we wrap Up The Bernie Frattle show coming.

2769
02:30:57,040 --> 02:30:59,360
Speaker 2: Up I'm Bernie. Frattle we are coming to life From Las,

2770
02:30:59,400 --> 02:31:01,800
Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Radio. Studios keep it. Locked you're listening to

2771
02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:03,560
Speaker 2: The Bernie Frattle. Show i'm.

2772
02:31:14,840 --> 02:31:14,960
Speaker 7: All.

2773
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:16,920
Speaker 2: Right we are wrapping up on The Bernie Fraddle, Show

2774
02:31:17,080 --> 02:31:21,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Radio BEFORE i go, IN i further want

2775
02:31:21,320 --> 02:31:25,640
Speaker 2: to thank my broadcast, team my Producers brandon And. Mark

2776
02:31:26,280 --> 02:31:29,320
Speaker 2: appreciate all your, efforts turning all the, dials keeping us glued,

2777
02:31:29,360 --> 02:31:32,920
Speaker 2: together hitting the, marks the bumper, music managing the, clock

2778
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:37,640
Speaker 2: handling all the. Callers greatly. Appreciated you cannot do a

2779
02:31:37,720 --> 02:31:43,240
Speaker 2: radio show without the efforts of quality. Producers we are

2780
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:47,800
Speaker 2: two hours And i'll say twenty five minutes away from

2781
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:51,680
Speaker 2: the gold medal matchup that everyone in The Western hemisphere

2782
02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:55,200
Speaker 2: had hoped. For at least in my, opinion it's come to.

2783
02:31:55,240 --> 02:32:02,280
Speaker 2: Fruition february twenty, second Twenty how about? That how about

2784
02:32:02,320 --> 02:32:08,440
Speaker 2: That february twenty, second nineteen Eighty, Well Mike rozioni scored

2785
02:32:08,480 --> 02:32:10,760
Speaker 2: the famous. Goal they beat The russians four to. Three

2786
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:13,480
Speaker 2: do you believe in? Miracles that wasn't the gold medal, game.

2787
02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:15,440
Speaker 2: Though that led to the Gold medal game In, finland

2788
02:32:15,440 --> 02:32:19,320
Speaker 2: which THE us, Won but no one seems to remember

2789
02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:22,039
Speaker 2: that game as much as they remember the game against

2790
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:27,760
Speaker 2: The Russians february twenty, second nineteen Eighty february twenty, second

2791
02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:31,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, six here we go, again the two best

2792
02:32:31,440 --> 02:32:34,160
Speaker 2: teams in The olympic, field THE us And. Canada and

2793
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:36,080
Speaker 2: let me tell, you it was not an easy path

2794
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:39,200
Speaker 2: to get to the gold medal. Game THE us they

2795
02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:42,480
Speaker 2: needed overtime wins to Beat sweden in the, quarterfinals and

2796
02:32:42,560 --> 02:32:45,119
Speaker 2: The canadians they had to come back in the third period.

2797
02:32:45,160 --> 02:32:48,480
Speaker 2: Twice he has Cheched ya And finland in the knockout.

2798
02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:54,400
Speaker 2: Rounds so you've got two QUALITY nhl based, teams battle.

2799
02:32:54,440 --> 02:32:57,440
Speaker 2: Tested this is a gold medal game that has all

2800
02:32:57,640 --> 02:33:00,920
Speaker 2: the ingredients for an all Time i'm. Classic but it's

2801
02:33:00,959 --> 02:33:02,960
Speaker 2: not just. That it feels like a real blood. Feud

2802
02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:07,320
Speaker 2: Brady kachuck TOLD espn, quote there's hatred. THERE i, mean

2803
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:10,160
Speaker 2: they've been the top Top Because brady Ku chuck plays

2804
02:33:10,160 --> 02:33:13,280
Speaker 2: for THE, us he's talking About, canada so they've been

2805
02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:16,280
Speaker 2: the best for the bunch of. Years and FOR, us

2806
02:33:16,320 --> 02:33:18,280
Speaker 2: we want to be in that position to be the.

2807
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:19,520
Speaker 2: Best so it's going to be a game WHERE i

2808
02:33:19,560 --> 02:33:21,600
Speaker 2: think a lot of guys could say this is the

2809
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:25,200
Speaker 2: biggest game they've ever. Played in end, quote that is

2810
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:30,200
Speaker 2: saying a. Lot these are frankly though very evenly matched.

2811
02:33:30,280 --> 02:33:33,920
Speaker 2: Teams even the betting markets see it as basically a tosso,

2812
02:33:34,720 --> 02:33:38,040
Speaker 2: well according to The, DraftKings The canadians are a slight

2813
02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:41,879
Speaker 2: favorite minus one twenty five to win the. Game but

2814
02:33:43,720 --> 02:33:46,920
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really interesting matchups facing this game

2815
02:33:46,959 --> 02:33:54,000
Speaker 2: because when you cut through the layers and analyze this,

2816
02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:57,160
Speaker 2: game THE us And, canada they're two very different. Teams

2817
02:33:57,720 --> 02:34:01,840
Speaker 2: their strengths are very. Different The, canadians they've got a

2818
02:34:01,959 --> 02:34:04,039
Speaker 2: core of forwards that are the best in the. World

2819
02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:08,480
Speaker 2: likely they got a lineup that's capable of scoring goals

2820
02:34:08,480 --> 02:34:12,160
Speaker 2: and bunches and wouldn't you know, it, ironically, yes The.

2821
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:15,959
Speaker 2: Americans their strength is on the other. Side they're built

2822
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:23,920
Speaker 2: to prevent, Goals so which philosophy wins out On sunday

2823
02:34:24,040 --> 02:34:28,760
Speaker 2: offense or. Defense whenever The canadians get into, trouble they

2824
02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:31,640
Speaker 2: score their way out of. Trouble conor McDavid and Maclin

2825
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:35,640
Speaker 2: celabrini a lethal. Duo they're on the first. Line canada

2826
02:34:35,640 --> 02:34:39,080
Speaker 2: also Has nathan, McKinnon who's currently the leading scorer of THE,

2827
02:34:39,160 --> 02:34:42,640
Speaker 2: nhl and he's their second line. Center but the wildcard

2828
02:34:42,760 --> 02:34:45,960
Speaker 2: Is Sidney. Crosby and believe, ME i know all too

2829
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:49,439
Speaker 2: well What Sidney crosby can. DO i, remember like yesterday

2830
02:34:49,480 --> 02:34:52,879
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine when you let Us Pittsburgh

2831
02:34:52,879 --> 02:34:55,800
Speaker 2: penguins over The Red wings as my last year living In.

2832
02:34:55,879 --> 02:34:58,640
Speaker 2: Detroit after The Red wings had taken a two to

2833
02:34:58,760 --> 02:35:02,320
Speaker 2: zero series, lead Pitch burg stormback And Sidney crosby was.

2834
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:05,640
Speaker 2: Unstoppable But Sidney crosby missed the semi final game with

2835
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:08,160
Speaker 2: a lower body. Injury he took a hard hit Against.

2836
02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:13,160
Speaker 2: Chechnya and they're gonna Need crosby Because crosby Gives canada

2837
02:35:13,240 --> 02:35:16,320
Speaker 2: the incredible depth as a third line. Center imagine that

2838
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:20,360
Speaker 2: you Had conin McDavid And Macklen celabrini their goal scoring.

2839
02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Machines nathan McKinnon on the second, line he's the second

2840
02:35:24,520 --> 02:35:27,039
Speaker 2: he's the leading scorer in THE nhl right, now and

2841
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:31,119
Speaker 2: Then Sydney Sidney crosby on the third. Line, okay If

2842
02:35:31,160 --> 02:35:35,959
Speaker 2: crosby misses the, GAME i think that helps THE us

2843
02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Because Nick, suzuki by the, way he slots in, there

2844
02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:43,680
Speaker 2: he's a Former vegas goal to night wasn't here very. Long,

2845
02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:49,720
Speaker 2: look they've also Got Mitch, Marner Brandon, Hagel they got

2846
02:35:49,720 --> 02:35:52,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of. Playmakers they score on The. Wings marner

2847
02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:55,520
Speaker 2: was the hero In canada's overtime win Versus. Chechia they

2848
02:35:55,560 --> 02:35:57,680
Speaker 2: had to score a late goal to force overtime and

2849
02:35:57,680 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 2: then they had to pull off you, know the old time.

2850
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:04,360
Speaker 2: Game but The, americans well they're gonna slouch. Either, okay

2851
02:36:05,200 --> 02:36:06,879
Speaker 2: in the, middle they got a one to two punch

2852
02:36:06,920 --> 02:36:10,200
Speaker 2: And Jackikelin Austin, matthews and they're not only great goal,

2853
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:13,600
Speaker 2: scorers well matt And eckle lot so. Much he'll set guys,

2854
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 2: up but they're eleaite two way players and they've lived

2855
02:36:16,360 --> 02:36:19,200
Speaker 2: up to that building In. Milan now they're going to

2856
02:36:19,240 --> 02:36:22,440
Speaker 2: have their work cutoff form and trying to contain The

2857
02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:26,080
Speaker 2: canadians and their and their. Counterparts But ikel And matthews

2858
02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:28,440
Speaker 2: are capable of doing it. Best Dylan mark and also

2859
02:36:28,520 --> 02:36:31,000
Speaker 2: The Red wings a great third line center For TEAM,

2860
02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:34,400
Speaker 2: usa played At Michigan state and he's been hot over

2861
02:36:34,440 --> 02:36:37,879
Speaker 2: the last punk couple of. Games, again this is like

2862
02:36:38,480 --> 02:36:40,480
Speaker 2: The All star Of All Star All star. Events on

2863
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:45,800
Speaker 2: The WINGS us they have skill and they have palmers

2864
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:50,320
Speaker 2: and pie. Fitters matthew And brady could. Chuck they are

2865
02:36:50,480 --> 02:36:55,080
Speaker 2: guys that can play with, physicality but they also have great,

2866
02:36:55,120 --> 02:36:59,640
Speaker 2: skills great, stick great finesse around the. Net and you,

2867
02:36:59,640 --> 02:37:02,560
Speaker 2: know if you want to see, flash keep your eye

2868
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:05,600
Speaker 2: On Jack. Hughes he's made a lot of brilliant plays

2869
02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:08,680
Speaker 2: at The olympics and he's playing at a superstar level right.

2870
02:37:08,680 --> 02:37:12,520
Speaker 2: Now so forty six years since their last gold medal

2871
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:16,400
Speaker 2: And brady can. CHUCK i think this team thinks about.

2872
02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:20,039
Speaker 2: That they don't take it. Lightly this is a childhood

2873
02:37:20,120 --> 02:37:23,800
Speaker 2: dream for these. Guys THE nhl is so. Unique they

2874
02:37:23,800 --> 02:37:26,600
Speaker 2: shut down their season for twenty six days and they

2875
02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:29,560
Speaker 2: go on to play for their various. Countries and this

2876
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:33,959
Speaker 2: is not just any old. Game they're talking about childhood

2877
02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:39,040
Speaker 2: dreams being realized and winning a gold medal for their.

2878
02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:44,240
Speaker 2: Country let's flip the. Defense this is where THE us

2879
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:46,959
Speaker 2: has an. Advantage this is where the balance and power

2880
02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:52,280
Speaker 2: favorise The. Americans Quinn, Ues Zach. Wrensky they're loaded on

2881
02:37:52,320 --> 02:37:55,080
Speaker 2: the blue. Line these are great puck. Movers they're going

2882
02:37:55,160 --> 02:37:57,400
Speaker 2: to contribute in all three. Zones but they got all

2883
02:37:57,480 --> 02:38:01,000
Speaker 2: kinds of versatility and shut down defense In Jacob slavin

2884
02:38:01,040 --> 02:38:04,880
Speaker 2: and Brock. Favor you've got guys that handle their part

2885
02:38:04,879 --> 02:38:07,000
Speaker 2: of the. Ice they're not afraid to lay down the.

2886
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:11,119
Speaker 2: Lumber they chip in on. Offense but you've got plenty

2887
02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:14,200
Speaker 2: of talent on the defensive side that's going to make

2888
02:38:14,240 --> 02:38:17,560
Speaker 2: it difficult For canada to get easy. Goals may be

2889
02:38:17,600 --> 02:38:20,560
Speaker 2: a greasy goal that wins this. Thing who, knows The

2890
02:38:20,600 --> 02:38:26,279
Speaker 2: canadian defense is not as good as The americans, Defense

2891
02:38:26,320 --> 02:38:30,200
Speaker 2: but ironically they might have the best defenseman on your,

2892
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:32,760
Speaker 2: team maybe the best defenseman in the world In cale.

2893
02:38:32,840 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 2: Mccarr but you know this. Game hockey games take on

2894
02:38:40,320 --> 02:38:44,680
Speaker 2: their own INDIVIDUAL, dna almost more so than any other,

2895
02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:48,920
Speaker 2: sport all, Right and let's not forget the most important

2896
02:38:48,959 --> 02:38:54,240
Speaker 2: thing in. Goal Connor hellibook might be the best goalie

2897
02:38:54,280 --> 02:38:59,320
Speaker 2: in the, world but he has a sort of a

2898
02:38:59,360 --> 02:39:04,400
Speaker 2: reputation shared by some that he shrinks in The Stanley cup. Playoffs,

2899
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:08,960
Speaker 2: Now Jordan bennington and The canadian statistically isn't one of

2900
02:39:08,959 --> 02:39:11,360
Speaker 2: the better goals in THE nhl season at. All but

2901
02:39:12,120 --> 02:39:14,560
Speaker 2: they say on hockey's biggest, stage it turns Into Marty.

2902
02:39:14,600 --> 02:39:20,879
Speaker 2: Burdure so he's been clutch so on, Paper on, paper

2903
02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:26,440
Speaker 2: THE us has the better, goaltender but history and experience

2904
02:39:27,080 --> 02:39:31,879
Speaker 2: tell us, that, well in a one game, affair you

2905
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:34,480
Speaker 2: really don't know who's going to do, what and it

2906
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:36,600
Speaker 2: might be a bit of a wash. Again Jordan bennington

2907
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:41,160
Speaker 2: Clutch Connor hallibut considered a better. Goalie here's the. Problem

2908
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:45,680
Speaker 2: The canadians have had The american's number. Forever twenty oh

2909
02:39:45,760 --> 02:39:48,160
Speaker 2: two In Salt Lake, city twenty ten In, vancouver twenty

2910
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:51,080
Speaker 2: fourteen In sociali last year during The Four nations face,

2911
02:39:51,120 --> 02:39:55,080
Speaker 2: off which was. Fantastic THE us hasn't been able to

2912
02:39:55,080 --> 02:39:57,960
Speaker 2: get it. Done but this is the Best american. Team

2913
02:39:58,600 --> 02:40:00,480
Speaker 2: i'm not going to say they're better than Nineteen i'm.

2914
02:40:00,480 --> 02:40:02,480
Speaker 2: Not you heard my opening monologue and how many those

2915
02:40:02,480 --> 02:40:05,320
Speaker 2: guys played two THOUSAND nhl, games six THOUSAND nhl. Games

2916
02:40:06,440 --> 02:40:08,240
Speaker 2: this is the Best american team maybe that's ever been.

2917
02:40:08,280 --> 02:40:10,920
Speaker 2: Assembled and it's right there with The canadians as maybe

2918
02:40:10,959 --> 02:40:13,240
Speaker 2: the most talented squad in the. World canada holds an.

2919
02:40:13,360 --> 02:40:16,280
Speaker 2: Edge but if you're gonna make a, prediction first of,

2920
02:40:16,320 --> 02:40:19,320
Speaker 2: ALL i believe it's going. OVERTIME i just simply. Do

2921
02:40:20,120 --> 02:40:23,560
Speaker 2: BUT i think The americans will harass The canadian defense

2922
02:40:23,600 --> 02:40:26,600
Speaker 2: better than The, canadians will harass The americans defense and

2923
02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:29,800
Speaker 2: they'll get To Jordan bennington in. Overtime i'll pick in

2924
02:40:29,840 --> 02:40:32,720
Speaker 2: THE usa to win three to two Over canada in.

2925
02:40:32,800 --> 02:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Overtime it's gonna do it for The Bernie. Frattershaw i'll

2926
02:40:35,200 --> 02:40:37,400
Speaker 2: see you next. Week in the, meantime keep it locked

2927
02:40:37,440 --> 02:40:40,119
Speaker 2: up next to the Great Andy furman On Fox. Sport