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Speaker 1: Link podcast studio. The whole gang is back together. It's

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. I'm Dan Kanzas joined in person like

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Here we go boys? What

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Speaker 1: up beach? All right? Mark? You seem fired up today?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm guessing it's because training camp is truly

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Speaker 1: here for the League of thirty two. You're overrating my

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Speaker 1: with Greg. Why why do I get it straight? Here?

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Speaker 1: We've had a month apart and you are gonna be

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Speaker 1: I knew you know what's good. We're very support all

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Speaker 1: And Mark, I'm sorry if no, would you like the

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Speaker 1: at Greg at the moment. No, I I think um,

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Speaker 1: Mark's chair sooner than later, and we need to make

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Speaker 1: sure it's working. That's true. You know what this is about, Mark,

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Speaker 1: It's just being ready. We don't want to be caught

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Speaker 1: We're back. I am back from I got off the

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Speaker 1: is over. Greg. You're back from Japan, but not wearing

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Speaker 1: been holding down just various sports, sports held down and

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Speaker 1: now with training camp is really now kicking off. We

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Speaker 1: said it last week that some teams reporting but as rookies,

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Speaker 1: and but now this is it, Greg, this is where

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Speaker 1: football is back. You know that this is a big

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Speaker 1: football is back Week. I feel like inside training Camp

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Speaker 1: reporters go around. They have something called back Together Saturday,

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Speaker 1: get into pads and they're like really blowing it out.

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Speaker 1: They're using fifty different NFL media personalities. I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: People will be will be there by Wednesday at the

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Speaker 1: very latest. This is it. This is our training camp together,

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Speaker 1: tenth training camp, tenth season around the NFL. You know,

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Speaker 1: I always again, this is a workshop space, and I'm

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Speaker 1: how about this one NFL training camp? What fans are

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Speaker 1: What do they you people? What do you need to

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Speaker 1: we make any welcome back should we make any have

426
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Speaker 1: any concerns about the reigning Super Bowl champion quarterback Matthew

427
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: Stafford uh having an anti inflammatory shot in his right

428
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: elbow this offseason, and you know he's on a pitch

429
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: count open training camp. Should we worry about it at all?

430
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: It was technically a surgery, right, I mean, that's that

431
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: is a concern. So you know, obviously you're doing exactly

432
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Speaker 1: what you would think any team that knows what it's

433
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Speaker 1: doing would do. Is the veteran quarterback who's been through

434
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Speaker 1: you know, thirteen fourteen raigning camps already, We're not going

435
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: to have him throwing high velocity missiles, you know, fifty

436
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: times of practice. But it is notable. Comes off a

437
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: very long season that ends with the Super Bowl win.

438
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: Now he has the elbow issue. I just you know

439
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: that you want to say, what's a way that the

440
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: RAMS title defense goes straight to hell? As if Stafford's

441
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: not right physically. I'm just tracking and I'm I'm not

442
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: concerned about it. I don't think Rams fans should be.

443
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: But just keep an eye on his practice. Does he

444
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: play at all in the preseason, what kind of how

445
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: are they using him throughout training camp? As we get

446
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: closer to September, it'll be interesting to see what happening.

447
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: Tracking it is the right, it's a track the way Again,

448
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: if you live in Los Angeles, you're so distracted by

449
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: so many other things. I don't think they're probably at home,

450
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: um sweating, you know, body sweating over where Matthew Stafford

451
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: is well, just like like the entire body feels hot,

452
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: Like I don't like. I think you just wait and

453
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Speaker 1: see where we are in a couple of weeks. I

454
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: mean it makes of course they're gonna get They don't

455
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: need him right now. Right they're one of those teams.

456
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Speaker 1: They're not gonna be too active in the preseason, but

457
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: they'll be out there practicing. We will be heading to

458
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Rams camp next week that we will believe at the

459
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: end of the week will check that out. Like cam

460
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: Akers is someone I'm kind of watching there a little

461
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: bit there. Their secondary, their cornerback position is very much

462
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: up in the air. But there's someone they're just gonna

463
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: like keep everyone in bubble wrap. I'm not I'm not

464
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: that concerned. There are some players on the pup list

465
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: that like more concerned about Ramsey. I think it's gonna

466
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: be fine, you know, now they're gonna let him like

467
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: participate in practice a little bit. But like around the league,

468
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: like Marcus Peters and Ronnie Stanley and Tias Bowser, like

469
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens, you know, they have a lot of like

470
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Speaker 1: players they need that are coming off big time injuries.

471
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: Your guy, McKay Beckton is on on pup Lyle Collins

472
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: was a was a name. That was a surprise. He's

473
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Speaker 1: on the nf I list for the is on like

474
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: a cruise in the Mediterranean right now, right and that's

475
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: like a back injury, so that you know, that's a concern.

476
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: Bac tri still hurt for the Packers. So these are

477
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Speaker 1: ones w you just okay, you note it early in July,

478
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: and then the last one there is more on my

479
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: radar than any of the others, just because back there

480
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: he tried to come back last year and it didn't

481
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: work out and they shut him back down, and now

482
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: he went through an entire new off season and he

483
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: starts on the publist. That said, and for those that

484
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: don't know, you know how the publist works, there is

485
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: a window here where they can come off at any time.

486
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the whole the whole camp and any time,

487
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: So it doesn't it's different than being put on some

488
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: type of restricted list or some UH and I R situation.

489
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: It's just the team in some cases just managing the

490
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Speaker 1: pace of the recovery or how they want to kind

491
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: of lay these guys out in practice. But it's also

492
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: again like the Matthew Stafford situation, like what I have

493
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: liked would have been a better update on McKay Beckton,

494
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: who's the last big piece of that Jets offensive line rebuild,

495
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: and if he comes back and is special, that could

496
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: be a really good offensive line. The fact that he's

497
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: not coming back from the knee injury from Week one

498
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: last year ready to go for the starting training camp

499
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: not ideal. He doesn't have the T shirt though, where

500
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: he noted all the slam. It's like a it's like

501
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: a protective measure the teams takes by putting him on

502
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: these this pu P list because then in theory, if

503
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: they weren't ready for the season, they could transfer to

504
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: the to the actual PUP lists and in miss six games.

505
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: But you're right with the I R rules, it sort

506
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: of doesn't matter. It's just like a little early red

507
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: flag of who's not where is waking up in the

508
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Speaker 1: middle of the night in a full body sweat. That's

509
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: happened everybody, happened to me last night? Did it really? Really?

510
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm also up. No, not at all. It's like I'm

511
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Speaker 1: up like four hours a night, and often it's like

512
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: you're under it's comfortable. Accessly. The hours between let's say

513
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: one am and six am is just a full on

514
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: nightmare typically, right, it's just I have those sleep watch

515
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: and it just is a it is a bizarre site,

516
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: just like who are That's that's tough. I mean, I'm

517
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Speaker 1: generally a good sleeper. Like if if maybe have like

518
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: an interpersonal problem, a relationship that's at a crossroads, or

519
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: I'm in it with someone and now I've got a

520
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: few of those that's on my mind, that will maybe

521
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: wake me up in the middle of the night. But

522
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: that's about it. Otherwise, maybe I'll have the sweat, I

523
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: think I maybe if I've had a beer or some drinking,

524
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I'll have a sweat and full um. All right, it's

525
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: got a big list of All right, let's let's do

526
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: a few moreks. We gotta get Jane Slater. Here's why.

527
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: I also have a surprise, very mini seg before the

528
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: jan about that. All right, let's go. I have two

529
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: quick ones and I will I will state them and

530
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: you can come and if you wish, I want. I know.

531
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Speaker 1: The one landing spot people whispered about for Jimmy G

532
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: is Houston. I would argue that is one of the

533
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: dumbest things they can do at this point. Why pay

534
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: for him when you have Davis Mills. If you look

535
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: at Davis Mills from a year ago, he had two pots,

536
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: he had to melt down performances against the coltson Bill

537
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: where he threw more interceptions and touchdowns, and his other

538
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: eleven starts sixteen touchdowns, four interceptions. No one is talking

539
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: about Davis Mills for the most part. It seems like

540
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't even matter. There is no reason to trade

541
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: for Jimmy G. I hate that. I hate that for

542
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: the Texans when you are essentially a team finding out

543
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: floating around this year, waiting for daylight to see who

544
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: you are. I would find out who Davis Mills Ill's

545
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: number two will we get because I just feel this

546
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: is going to happen. Everything is too calm right now.

547
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: Everything's very It's a very placid lake out there. Every

548
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: every team's in a no drama scenario. What and when

549
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: will we get the Antonio Brown level meltdown from some

550
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: player out there that completely absorbs the next three to

551
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: five weeks of our lives were like of every show

552
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: like ours and others, has to talk about player X

553
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: doing something X that we don't approve of. You know,

554
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: he for all is jack Assory. You gotta give Antonio

555
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 1: Brown credit for being box office when comes to being

556
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: one of one. So I don't know owens in the

557
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: league really right now. Maybe we we're in this like

558
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: in between period where we're waiting for that next like

559
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: crazy son of a bit to show up. It just

560
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: seems like the space is there. That's when the space

561
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: is occupied with there will be some drama type story

562
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: that pops that you can't see coming. That's why that's

563
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: why we show up. I'm with you on Davis Mills,

564
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: by the way, and I'm interested. I'm interested in that

565
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Texans camp too, because they have so many positions up

566
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: for grabs. One of them's receiver. We should mention their

567
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: second round pick. John Mechi announced over the weekend that

568
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with leukemia, and he mentioned it was

569
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: the most curable type of cancer, and they feel good

570
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: about his long term prospects, but that you know he

571
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: will miss this season, and you just feel for the

572
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: young man who also tore his a c L in

573
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: his last year at Alabama. Someone they were really excited about.

574
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: Someone when you were penciling in who's going to play

575
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: for them. I kind of expected him to have five

576
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: hundred snaps, someone that they even though he was a

577
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: second round pick, they were probably county on pretty early

578
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: because there's not many people. And you just, yeah, you

579
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: feel you feel for him having to go through this,

580
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: but it sounded like a good thing long term that

581
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: that at least he had a pretty good pregnant. But

582
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: he's likely will not be playing football two. But right

583
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: now it's his health that matters most, so best wishes

584
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: to John. Got another one. By the way Mills did,

585
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm putting him on making a lap

586
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: to he he had. I think he's ignored essentially. He

587
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: had some flashy plays. That's the thing. If you picked

588
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: the top plays of Davis Mills's seasons, he can throw it.

589
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he processed pretty well in terms

590
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: of going through reads. I think he moves really well

591
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: in the pocket. He's a big dude. He's not incredibly

592
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: athletic or anything, but he's he moves well in the pocket.

593
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: I think I think he has a chance. Like I

594
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: don't know where he's gonna end up, but he very

595
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: much seems like an NFL quarterback. I think the player

596
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: you're making to their mark is like the Texans are

597
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: not competing for super Bowls right now, Jimmy Garoppolo is.

598
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: We've seen enough to know that he's if he's a

599
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: bridge quarterback or maybe a little better, if he's healthy,

600
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: you might as well just see if the kid really

601
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: can play. Give him another full season, Davis Mills, and

602
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: then if he takes off and builds off that rookie year,

603
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: you know you got a guy when you go into

604
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: the next draft process, and if he doesn't well, then

605
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: where his ceiling is higher than Jimmy Gee's and you

606
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: go learn that this year. I mean, I think Jimmy

607
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: would be I think we know Jimmy ceiling at this point.

608
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we know that crazy. If Jimmy G's

609
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: best offer is that he has to take a salary

610
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: down to eight million dollars, and then he was backing

611
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: up Mills to start the year. I don't like. I

612
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: don't totally hate that. It's maybe unnecessary for a team

613
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: like this though in this stage of the rebuilding process,

614
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't hate it as long as

615
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: he's the backup going into the year. So the Seahawks

616
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: are really going to do this. So that's I don't know,

617
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm going I mean, we should, we should. We like

618
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: we started talked about the geno thing here and there,

619
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: but they're really going to do this. Okay, here's the thing.

620
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: This is old school in terms of you know, in Pittsburgh,

621
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: and they're not like splitting up the reps even like

622
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: I guess they're doing that in Carolina with with Donald

623
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: and Mayfield for now. But here's just two men in

624
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: the arena. And this is how the Pete Carroll era started.

625
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: I remembered it well, uh it was I guess I

626
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: don't remember it that well, but it was Matt Flynn,

627
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: it was Tarvarus I think was still kicking around then

628
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: it was a legitimate quarterback competition. The next year they

629
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: get Russell Wilson in and it's a three quarterback competition,

630
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson goes out and wins it. This time,

631
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: it's Gino Smith in year ten getting a real chance

632
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: to be a Week one starter again against Drew Lock.

633
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Give me all the practice reports, give me the preseasons

634
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: where it's like the first week he's starting, but the

635
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: second week Drew locks already, and then we're like over

636
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: evaluating it. This is happening for a team that like

637
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: isn't trying to rebuild. They're trying to win, whether you

638
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: think they can or not, They're trying to win eight

639
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Speaker 1: or nine games. Do something like that is an imbalanced individual.

640
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: That is that is grotesque at this point. If you're

641
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: any NFL front office, the goal should not be to

642
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: go nine and eight. That shouldn't be the goal. It's

643
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: like you're that's purgatory, yes, grave digger um. Actually, Matt

644
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: Flynn joined the Seahawks a few months before they drafted

645
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: a huge free agent sign. Can't check it out on YouTube.

646
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: You know, I was pushing for this from the moment

647
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Speaker 1: we moved into this damn building. We need a behind

648
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: the glass cam. Ricky Hollywood is gonna be super annoyed

649
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: that it didn't show up until she got here. And

650
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: by the way, Ricky Hollywood. Shout out to Ricky Hollywood.

651
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 1: Check her out all over Instagram and Twitter because she

652
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: is the newest member of the Ramilly and she's hit

653
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: the ground run and with some bangers taking photos with

654
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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. That's effort Sean McVeigh. And you know they

655
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: have the Super Bowl ring ceremony and she was running

656
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: around with a candy ring. Very Ricky Hall. I have

657
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: talked about, I apologize, I love the we need you

658
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: to to correct staffs and factual that Matt Hasselbeck was

659
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: still there in his last year, in the first year

660
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: of Carol, and it was the next year where it

661
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: was the three pronged attacks Flynn, Chaz Whitehurst and Russell Wilson.

662
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: So I've talked about in the show they sent me

663
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: NFL dot com years ago two thousand and twelve, would

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Speaker 1: have been to the rooftop of this charity event of

665
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and I interviewed Pete Carroll and I had

666
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: a question to him just kind of more like a

667
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: leading question like Matt Flincher guy. And I remember Carol

668
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: being like, well, you know, kind of hold up here.

669
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: We love this Russell Wilson kid, and and what was

670
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: he a third round pick? Wilson, you take that. In June,

671
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: it was like, all right, whatever, everybody loves whatever, the

672
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: mid round quarterback. But that turned out to be the guy.

673
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: But that's again, but he was electric in the preseason

674
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: and he was I'm saying is in practice. He was

675
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: someone where the first ten days of camp it was

676
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: like the hype actually ended up being real, right, and

677
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: they is the Flynn contract looked really big on paper,

678
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: but it wasn't actually something that they couldn't get out of.

679
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: So it just seemed like that was a team in

680
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: an era of the Seahawks where there was a plan

681
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: in place, and now it seems like just an older

682
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: coach and uh a front office that's a little funky. Now.

683
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: It's just I don't give them the benefit of doubt.

684
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying. No, I don't know the position.

685
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't know where this is leading. Their defense, if

686
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: it all came together, has some potential, Like their backfield

687
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: with Rashad Penny and Kenny Walker. Ken Walker is a guy.

688
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: One of West's uh big truisms in camp was like

689
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: running backs is kind of the one position you can

690
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: really watch in these preseason games. Uh, and the Seahawks

691
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: are one of the few teams that still like ride

692
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: their guys in the preseason. So Ken Ken Walker is

693
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: a guy I want to watch Rashad Penny. But but

694
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Speaker 1: Gina Lot, this this is what we need, you need

695
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: It's something. Rap Sheet reports that Bears All Pro linebacker

696
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith will not be participating training camp when veterans

697
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: report tomorrow because of his contract situation. Smith has not

698
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: yet received an offer he would remotely consider. Thus he'll

699
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: wait so not to hold in the hold out Smith,

700
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if the All Pro becomes a saucy uh

701
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: trade possibility now for a team that feels like they're

702
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: a little short in the middle of their defense. Uh,

703
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there for a Bears team that

704
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: obviously is in rebuilding. Know what's funny, There's a the

705
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Bears have unveiled, like twenty five other teams. They're one game. UM,

706
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: all uniforms and it's orange jerseys and an orange Bear's helmet. Um.

707
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: It looks grotesque, but ro Kuwan Smith was asked to

708
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: model it and it's all over Twitter. There's two Um,

709
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: you can see his eyes and both of them in both.

710
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: In both shots, he looks very discontent with the uniform

711
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: but also his situations. So that happened right before. Interesting

712
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: that that's where well, I'm not sure when the photos

713
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: shoot occurred, but the photos were unleashed over the weekend there.

714
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: That really surprises me, um just because the new collective

715
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 1: bargaining agreement has made it almost impossible to hold out

716
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: where if the Bears want, they can, uh fine Roquan

717
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: Smith an incredible amount, you know, a very costly amount. Now,

718
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: usually they work these things out and if he thinks

719
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in long you know, Bears long term,

720
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: they'll get the contract done. They'll say, don't worry about

721
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: all the money. But if it, if they want to,

722
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: they have that hammer where they can just find him.

723
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: And he is possibly the best player on their roster

724
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: right now. I mean he he is one of the

725
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: premier inside linebackers, I would say in the league and

726
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: in an NFL where you're just hoping to find one

727
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: of these linebackers that can stay on the field all

728
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: three downs and are are good on passing downs to

729
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: He's it like he he is one of the prototypes.

730
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: He's one of their best picks. Uh. And it's interesting

731
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: when you think about Rokuan Smith and Robert Quinn, because

732
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: there's been some buzz that Robert Quinn, who stayed away

733
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: from offseason work, could potentially be a trade candidate and

734
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 1: that he might want either more money or one off

735
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: the team. People just aren't happy with the Bears. So

736
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: like those two combining, uh, that as a story and

737
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: being their best to defensive players his interest if you're

738
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: the Bears where they are. And I'm not demeaning the

739
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Bears as a team that shouldn't even be thought of

740
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: as a team that's existing in but Robert Quinn is

741
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: a guy at thirty two years old that you move

742
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: if you can get any type of good are your building.

743
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: He's a guy you he's an all pro young star

744
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: you want to keep in the building. But if you

745
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: sense that, you know this isn't gonna happen, Yeah, go

746
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: go see what you can do and really escalated. I

747
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: think Ryan Poles has been given permission to tear it

748
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: down to the studs. Basically, I don't know if Matt

749
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: I get it, but you you need to tear it

750
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: down to the Poles, down to the polls. I mean,

751
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: that's still would you'd still have poles involved. You gotta

752
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: find people to spend that cap space on, to spend

753
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: all your cat you do. But I mean it's kind

754
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: of like the like the Cowboys. We're gonna talk with Jane,

755
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: how they just have a twenty million dollars they haven't

756
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: spent that's a waste And and Quinn makes sense as

757
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: a trade. My point is, what are you doing if

758
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: you're not building around players like broke On Smith? That's

759
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: who you want to because we're going to talk to you,

760
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: but how do you know what we're gonna Just know,

761
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring up Cooper. I'm gonna bring on Cooper.

762
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: I think we already recorded it. And you know, I

763
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: think you is Hollywood, this is this is magic. You

764
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: tore down the magic and the illusion is well even worse.

765
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: He did it to make you look like like you're right.

766
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: I know how that interviewed. I will be the one

767
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: guiding us through it. Just wait and see how I

768
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: we couldn't let that. You know, it's unrewarding behavior by Greg.

769
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: We're back together and you guys have forgotten what it

770
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: means to put on a show, to be professionals and

771
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: to put on a show. We're not just analysts, were

772
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: entertainers and you just have to take the medicine. You're

773
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: disappointed by what you just happ Okay, I need to

774
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: change the subject. So I just wanted to say, going

775
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: into our tenth training kids, I just wanted to throw

776
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: this idea out here. You brought up Gina Smith, a

777
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: little earlier member of the two thousand and thirteen draft class,

778
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: right seconds, so he can he basically came, you know,

779
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: he came into the NFL same time as us, And

780
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: so I was thinking, like, as a podcast, Uh, we

781
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: are entering that that tenth season, and I was thinking, who, like,

782
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, we're getting that, we're getting up there. We've

783
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: certainly learned a lot. Some people might say our best

784
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: days behind us. That's gonna depend on what we put

785
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: out on the field this year, but we have to

786
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: prove it. We're at the age we need to we

787
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: need to show it. And I guess I'm I wanted

788
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: to know who from that draft class do you think

789
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: most embodies our podcast? Now that was famously a terrible

790
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: class at the top, Uh, Eric Fisher, Derek Luke, jokel

791
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: Dion Jordan's Lane Johnson. Nice pickup for Ziggy Anza Barkabius Mingo,

792
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper, Tavan, Austin d Milner, Chance Warmack. That's a

793
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: rough top ten. But there are other good quality pros

794
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: that are still hanging around. Uh, Sheldon Richardson still in

795
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: the league. Maybe before Maybe we're that guy. There's many

796
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: good second round picks all in a row. The top

797
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: ten in the second round is actually better. It includes

798
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, Darius Slay, Uh, my my guy gino, Robert Woods.

799
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Maybe we're Robert Woods, like solid guy make making. Maybe

800
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: we're man titeo. Uh, and we'll have a documentary made

801
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: about us and we're like like a source of of ridicule.

802
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: How about this? I think we are drafted third round

803
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: number sixty nine overall by the car Ardinals. What honey

804
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: badger like that. We were not believed early on, we

805
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: were not believed in and and we all came with

806
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: a pass, different pass, some of us shady pass. And

807
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: we're still here. We've proven that we've proven them wrong. Here.

808
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Is another third round pick that year.

809
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: Here's why I don't think that because that was notable

810
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: when it had happened everybody's funny. When does Honey Badger

811
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: come out the board? Because he's very talented, but he

812
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: had off the field issues and l s U kicked

813
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: him off the team. Nobody was talking about around the NFL.

814
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to go I'm going down. I see

815
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: as more as like a you know, a New York

816
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: Giants picked two fifty three and round seven Michael Cox,

817
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: the running back in the Massachusetts But what kind of

818
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: career as he had? No, we need to have someone

819
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: that's still in the league's And I think the way

820
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: you had just explained to actually help me out because

821
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have a good answer for this. I like

822
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: Darius very entertaining. He's made, he's making money, and he's

823
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: still at the top of his game. So I like

824
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Darius Slavel the fourth round pick overall by the Baltimore Ravens.

825
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: No one was talking about this guy or this pick,

826
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: Kyle use Check. I was going to throw out another

827
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: fourth round pick when when Dan did mention that, and

828
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: and because I think as great as Kenny Stills too, juice,

829
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Now we're definitely not doing Kenny Stills. Kenny Stills, he's

830
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: caused some problems for this podcast myself in the past,

831
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: Um David bak tr uh again someone that um no

832
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: One was talking about as a fourth round pick and

833
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: rose to the very top of his field. Uh and

834
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: dominated was the very best at what he did deep

835
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: in the draft. And yeah this year, maybe coming off injuries,

836
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: didn't have the greatest offseason in the world, but it's

837
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: still making bank. That's David buck that maybe he's on

838
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: the pup right now. And so that we got just

839
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: looking at this draft, this is giving me PTSD of

840
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: our around the NFL writing days. Remember how many articles

841
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: we had to write about Marcus Lattimore coming back from

842
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: the devastating knee injury. Jamie Collins was industry, There was

843
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: a lot of good second. Yeah, I mean so, I

844
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: like the idea in my heart, I would love to

845
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: be a Robert Woods or a Keenan Allen kind of

846
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: just like underrated, you know, keeps you know, out of

847
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: the headlines necessarily, but a true pro. But I don't

848
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: really think that's us. I don't think that's us. Well,

849
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a fun exercise. You took us through,

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Speaker 1: Greg and Uh, I like back d R. I think

851
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: that's you know, I think that's a good one. And no,

852
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: hopefully not Eddie Lacy where like it becomes like a

853
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: daily right ups on NFL dot com. How many Eddie

854
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: lights may Maybe we'll ask on a pull on on

855
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Instagram or something. Justin or the listeners can let us

856
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: know there's another one. E J. Manuel who won Rookie

857
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: of the Year that year, because weren't you guys the

858
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Speaker 1: best new podcast of the year be We're the best

859
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: new podcast of the year. I mean, you could have

860
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: looked this up before asking it. Uh oh, Justin would

861
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: have helped um and then you could have really have

862
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: r G three. Now that was Sheldon Richardson. Yes, my boy,

863
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: it's defensive Rookie the year, hold on, well it works

864
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: was Eddie Lay Keenan Allen, which you know it's It's

865
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: one of those awards you can be like, well, Eddie

866
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Lace who is better that year? Nope, the voters messed

867
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: it up. They should have gone with Keenan Allen. That

868
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: doesn't look good or success did not come early. So

869
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about offensive rookie or defensive Rookie. How

870
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: many articles? How many articles did we have to write

871
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: mark about Tavon Austin and everyone wanting Tavon Austin or

872
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy looking fat in a photo of riding a

873
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: bike to you know. I mean, there was just too

874
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: much of this content. Pool. Let's take a break and uh,

875
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Jane will come into the studio already, did you ruined it?

876
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: The illusion? You ruined it? We'll be right back. Welcome back,

877
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: joining us now. I mean, this is one of the

878
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: great pleasures of being back together in the studios. You

879
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: see everybody you know walking in the hallways, and who's

880
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: walking the hallways right past the glass of the Chris

881
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: Wesson podcast studio, it's Jane Slater covers the Cowboys, the Saints,

882
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football. You see her all over the place,

883
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: and now she's right here on around the NFL. Welcome back, Jane.

884
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: Got it kind of feels like Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise

885
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: and Top Gun two. I feel like you have that

886
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: or about you right at this moment. I'm coming back

887
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: in guys. I'm ready to get ready to get my

888
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: fighter jet proof. I've still got it in Tokyo with

889
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Speaker 1: my father in law who speaks a small amount of English,

890
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: which just the place to see. It's up left. Did

891
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: that change the plot at all there is, Jane remarked.

892
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: As soon as she walked in, she saw the fancy

893
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: new set here in Inglewood. And and you know, Jane's

894
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: been there with us forever. She knows where we were

895
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: in the old broom closet, pool side chats, side chats. Um.

896
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: So yes, does have come a long way? Talk about

897
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: legitimized what should have what should have been legitimized a

898
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: long time ago. I've always been polling. Yeah you're on,

899
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: just because we literally saw you walk by. That's the

900
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: amount of planning that goes in. You're the first guest

901
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: to come on, just walking by, and we we grabbed you,

902
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: uh since our friend with the giants. But that's how

903
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: good you guys are because a lot of shows can't pivot,

904
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Speaker 1: doesn't it? Say? Um? I mean, you know, people are

905
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: always railing against cell phones and cell phone technology. Had

906
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: this been we would have lost you into the sea.

907
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: But I just texted you and you came circling right

908
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: back around. Technology is a powerful calls I show up,

909
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: you answered right away. I went it was an immediately

910
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: make a bat calling out on the signal, Yeah you're on, cameo.

911
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: I just see this. I'm seeing this cameo dot com

912
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: slash Jane Slater um on your Twitter account. What's going

913
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: on in the Jane Slater cameo? Is everything in play? Like?

914
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: What's out of bounds? What kind of request are you getting?

915
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: What's happening over on the Jans Slater cameo? How much

916
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: do you charge? Which I feel like is a lot?

917
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: Honestly it's it's awesome, but I have been really bad.

918
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: Shout out to the people we've reached on cameo and

919
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: your request of expired. I do more free cameos because

920
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: I feel bad that I missed the expires at the

921
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: time out So I'm like, here's your cameo. But I

922
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed doing it. Somebody actually asked me to tell their

923
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: husband that they were pregnant, and I felt like that

924
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: was a really, really big announcement and it felt too

925
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: big for me to come from another from a strange

926
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not pregnant, but Sharon is. Congratulations. What

927
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: is going on before we get into the Cowboys and

928
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: maybe a little on the Saints, what is going on

929
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Social Lite Club? Where are we at

930
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: right now? You are part of a posse. It is

931
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: spicy that rolls through North Texas with great power. Um,

932
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: how is that going? You know, it's so funny. I

933
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: just I grew up in Dallas, you know, like so

934
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: everyone knew me when I was a traffic reporter working

935
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: three am as a freelancer at CBS eleven or you know,

936
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: I'd be out on Sunday Funday at eleven o'clock and

937
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: friends of me like, don't you have the morning show

938
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: in the morning to get home too? Oh yeah, I

939
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: gotta go talk about Carret. So they've seen me sort of,

940
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, work my way up. So it's I don't know.

941
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: I just I feel like I've known and even like

942
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: the socialates that you're referencing my Italian trip, I knew

943
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: so many of these guys when they were literally sleeping

944
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: on couches, had big dreams for you know, their business.

945
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: It's literally the most positive group of friends who have

946
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, just like a t N I knew you

947
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: guys went and so it's fun to be around that

948
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: energy and those people. But I think some people, you know,

949
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: think we have like this mean girls club or you know,

950
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: the socialite loves to give me. Not that like you're

951
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: mean or anything, or you're mean girls. But I like

952
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: to imagine that you have to hit a certain level

953
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: of class, standing, success, wealth, uh, physical looks. You have

954
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: to hit all these check marks and then you're in.

955
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: You know what. So we slept on the couch together

956
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: and we have you do you weed people out as

957
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: the years go by? If they fall off the map?

958
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: It's all about good energy. My friends are literally all

959
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: over the place. We call ourselves the Gremlin Girl Gang

960
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: because if you feed us or give us drinks after midnight,

961
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: were multiply. It's just it's a fun group. You know.

962
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: I love I love my crew. What is going on

963
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys on offense? How do you feel about

964
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on offense? Because you have Dac now another

965
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: full year removed from that catastrophic leg injury. We don't

966
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: know where Zeke's at. The wide receiver group is as

967
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: thinner now with Amari Cooper and Cleveland. Do you think

968
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: this is a top seven type offense or do you

969
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: think we're going to see them take a step back

970
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: or get better this year? Where do you see this?

971
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: I think this is probably the trickiest year to get

972
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: a sense of what this offense is going to be

973
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Remember when they went into training camp and this was

974
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: after they let does go right, and it was we're

975
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: going to do a wide receiver by committee. Well that

976
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: works so well. They decided at the trade deadline they're

977
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna go and get a Maury Cooper and give up

978
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: a first round pick, which was a great move on

979
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: their part, but then you basically shipped them off, uh

980
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Now you have twenty two million dollars in

981
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: cap space. I get why they do it right. In

982
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: other words, they've been in capell for years. We've given them,

983
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, so much angst about that, but you just

984
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: wonder are they making even some of the right decisions.

985
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: As it even relates to free agents like von Miller

986
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: when I reported that, I always loved to what it's

987
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: kai call it wet blanket season. Every free agent will

988
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: attach their names to the Cowboys to run up whatever

989
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: another team is going to offer them. But von Miller

990
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: was legitimate. Von Miller wanted to come to Dallas, and

991
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: they inspire saying they tried in good faith, but I

992
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: mean they were not going to match what Buffalo did.

993
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: But in terms of going out and getting a flashy

994
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: wide receiver, which I know a lot of people are

995
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: asking because Michael Gallup's gonna likely missed two as he's

996
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: dealing with the A. C. L. Tear. I don't see

997
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: him doing it. I think they feel good about Jalen Tilbert.

998
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: James Washington didn't do much with the Steelers, so I

999
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: don't know what to expect from him. Um, you know

1000
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: what I and I we'll see with Ceedee Lamb. I

1001
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of pressure on CD to be

1002
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, we're talking about a receiving crew

1003
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: that had three thousand yards you know, between the three

1004
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: of them, and when you're focused on Gallup or you're

1005
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: focused on a Mari, Sure, it's great for CD to

1006
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: have a breakout your vice versa. And so I think

1007
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: the question is can CD emerge as that guy? How

1008
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: much faith do you have in this you know, young kid,

1009
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Tilbert. Um. But I think for me, the bigger

1010
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: question isn't just the wide receivers. It's the offensive line.

1011
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: When you lost three guys on your offensive Linelell Collins,

1012
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: uh Connor Williams, which I mean they were kind of

1013
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: moving on from him anyways. Um, and then literally you're

1014
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: looking at possibly a rookie taking over at left guard.

1015
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: So Dad coming back from the injury, says he's the

1016
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: healthiest he's been. But what do you expect from Zeke?

1017
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: So I think there's just a lot of question. Lark

1018
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: the thing for me because we just talked about Jerry Jones,

1019
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: who is, um, you know, a bona fide character on

1020
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: many levels and speaks out of school on certain things.

1021
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: We know that he has a fascination with Sean Payton,

1022
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: the other coach that you covered with the Saints a

1023
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: year ago. Um, I mean it just hangs over the

1024
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys that Mike McCarthy to me feels sometimes like a

1025
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: dead man walking. If this offense that they can talk

1026
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: about anyway they want crumbles out of the gate, or

1027
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: just isn't what it's supposed to be. Is this just

1028
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: is this like a setup for Mike McCarthy to be

1029
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: objector seated out of here and Sean Payton comes rolling

1030
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: in like we thought he would have five other times

1031
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: to that point, as I said, in the set up here,

1032
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: Jane covers both those teams, and I'm just curious to

1033
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: that point your vibe on the Sean Payton situation, and like,

1034
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: if you had to put a percentage on it, how

1035
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: likely it is that he is in the big chair

1036
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: this time next year. I don't think the Sean Payton

1037
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: experiment would work in Dallas. And I mean that because

1038
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: Sean was used to so much autonomy in New Orleans.

1039
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: In other words, he stood up on the table and

1040
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: he'll tell you he beat his hand for Alvin Kamara.

1041
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: He's the one that decided we're going to draft tase

1042
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: Hm Hill and we're going to use him as this

1043
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, quarterback hybrid Swiss army knife. I don't see

1044
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys giving him that sort of flexibility and the

1045
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: disciples and I'll tell you parcels he did not enjoy

1046
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: that final chapter of his career. And I don't think

1047
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: Jerry did either, And of course they all broke bread after.

1048
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: But look at Jimmy Johnson, another strong guy. Think about

1049
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: the guys in Dallas. You've I mean, you can argue

1050
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: I haven't had success, but the guys that have worked

1051
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: with the personalities have been you know, you've got Wade,

1052
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: You've got Jason Garrett. These guys weren't pushing. Press conference

1053
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: usually has the coach right next to right. But it's

1054
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: Jerry that like speaks the whole time, and the coach

1055
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: is just sitting there like a good, good little soldier.

1056
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: Kind of can't imagine Sean Payton in that spot. Not

1057
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: a chance this guy has retirement. Presser went on for

1058
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: like two hours. He's worse than me, I overtalk. Everyone

1059
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: knows that Sean's worse than me at that, and so

1060
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: I even when after the games like win or long,

1061
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: win or lose, You've got Jerry out there, you know,

1062
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: fielding all the questions he's giving away. You know, so

1063
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: and so is not gonna play this weekend on a Wednesday,

1064
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: Sean would lose his mind over that. And I feel

1065
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: for some of these teams, like I saw it, you know,

1066
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: one of the networks had the banner, you know, Sean

1067
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: Payton in Miami. I'm like, Mike McDaniel just got there.

1068
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: We all just left. And I don't think Mike's seat

1069
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: is as hot as some of us think it is.

1070
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: In other words, every time I talked to Steven Jones,

1071
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, I love Mike, big fan of Mike. Okay,

1072
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: and getting to know Mike a little bit more in

1073
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: the last year, especially without COVID getting him away from

1074
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: the off season. I find myself cheering for him a

1075
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: little bit because he is kind of this old school

1076
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: guy that I think him and Kellen Moore did things

1077
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: very different offensively, So I think they're evolving and kind

1078
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: of finding their groove. And I think you'll see Mike

1079
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: McCarthy getting a little bit more involved offensively. But I

1080
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: think even and he'll say this to you on record

1081
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: off record, the media in Dallas is so different than

1082
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: what he was used to in Green Bay and even

1083
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: New Orleans for that matter, So I think there was

1084
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: a lot of adjustments for everyone involved. But I mean,

1085
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: we're still talking about a team that went twelve and

1086
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: five this year, had a top five offense, defense completely

1087
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: went from the bottom to a little bit over middle

1088
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: of the pack. They were they were I would put

1089
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: them as like a top eight, top five defense a

1090
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: year ago, and at the end it was really the

1091
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: defense that was carrying the team. I mean, I am

1092
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: going into this season. It's strange because defenses do go

1093
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: up and down, But you have Michael Parsons, who to

1094
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: me is like a generational talent. You have plenty of continuity.

1095
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Randy Gregor relieving. I like their

1096
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: young defensive tackles or Diggies, Zwa and Gallimore. I think everything.

1097
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: And you have Dan Quinn in his second year and

1098
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: and he showed he can mix it up. I like

1099
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: that defense. It's weirdly the offense that's the concern. And

1100
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned that they have twenty million dollars in caps

1101
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: base left over. That Amari Cooper trade, in hindsight, is

1102
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: one of the worst moves of the off season. What

1103
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: is that cap space doing from them? That is until

1104
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 1: another team if they start making the price of receivers

1105
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: after that Cooper trade in terms of how much receivers

1106
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: got in trades. And I had to go back and

1107
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: look because I was like, what did Cooper get? I

1108
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: sort of forgot. Was it like a second or was

1109
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: it it was like a fifth and sixth pick swap.

1110
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: They basically just dumped him. He could be on their

1111
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: team right now. And that's the position, I'm sure to

1112
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: And then and yet I look at all this and

1113
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: that's the focus, and that's the main thing. Doc was

1114
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: not Dak after that injury, and and maybe it was

1115
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: really all the injury. And I don't really know, but

1116
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: he held onto the ball forever. He was afraid to

1117
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: make quick decisions. His mental aptitude is to me his strength,

1118
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: and it was just not there down the stretch and

1119
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: that's part and and Kellen Moore couldn't figure it out,

1120
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: and that's that's the big mystery to me. It was

1121
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: one of the worst stretches I think of his career.

1122
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: And if he's back to being normal Dock, then they'll

1123
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: be fine. I think that. You know, he came back,

1124
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of like geek yourself out. You're

1125
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: so ready to get back, like this is my year,

1126
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: and then things just start going wrong again. It was

1127
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he ended up. If you think he's coming

1128
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: up from the gruesome injury, we all have these questions.

1129
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: And he had gotten the big contract, right, He's excited

1130
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: to play, goes down in that October and then he

1131
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: loses his brother. Um, he has the shoulder injury, and

1132
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: then he has the other like what was it that

1133
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: not the quality was the calf the calf injury, and

1134
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: then you've had seven combination line changes. Offensive line, You've

1135
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: got Zeke who's dealing with the PCL that he keeps

1136
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: reaggravating throughout the season. I think he was playing a little.

1137
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: I think he got in his head, and I think

1138
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: there was when you have a gruesome entry like that

1139
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 1: nasty injury, Greg, I think in your mind you're thinking

1140
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: that offensive line things aren't clicking, couldn't happen again. And

1141
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's true. I have been had

1142
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: that conversation with them. I don't know if he'd even

1143
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: ever admit that, but I just thought that was interesting.

1144
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: And then Mike McCarthy admitting that the players seemed nervous

1145
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: during the team prayer handing into San San Francisco. I

1146
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: think that's what, honestly, that narrative hurt them the most,

1147
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: because why would you be nervous heading into a game

1148
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: against the forty Niners and Jimmy g at your stadium.

1149
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: They played tight in that game. There's there's no doubt

1150
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: a bet. And I think, like, listen, Jerry Jones is

1151
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna be eighty in October. And when we talk about

1152
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: to circle back to the Peyton and the drama and

1153
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: the McCarthy of all of this, I does not you, said,

1154
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones said, we like Mike, and I get it.

1155
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: They also kept Jason Garrett around for like maybe five years,

1156
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: longer than a lot of people thought they should have.

1157
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: So maybe that's part of the problem here. And that's

1158
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: why I think there's this is a very important season

1159
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: in Dallas that let's see what happens here with this roster.

1160
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: We know this is a twelve win team last year,

1161
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: but if they have another season that where they fall

1162
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: short of their own expectations, at what point do they

1163
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: need to say, Man, it's been over a quarter century

1164
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: since we actually had the trophy. Maybe Sean Payton, maybe him,

1165
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: or whoever it is, we need to make some shifts

1166
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: how we do business around here because it hasn't worked.

1167
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: I know they've been competitive, They've they've had roster building

1168
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: that's a lot of teams wish they could do. Jared

1169
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: makes mistakes, but he also with his team, Stephen and everyone,

1170
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: they also have success building a program out. But I

1171
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like this is an important pivot

1172
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: year for the organization. I also feel like every summer

1173
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: we're saying that about the company, this is the season

1174
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: where things don't go right, But this year you can

1175
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: have something here and Sean in the week the Super

1176
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: Bowl favorites. Really, there's really not. It's wide open. And

1177
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: if even if you look at the NFC South, you

1178
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: know before you did have to worry about going through

1179
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: New Orleans and dealing with and in general feels like,

1180
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: of course every team says super Bowl, but you know,

1181
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: winning the NFC East wind to tell me that they're

1182
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, they they're doing something right. They gotta win.

1183
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: You gotta make a run here in the playoff, Dan,

1184
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: it's literally winning it all. And I always in the

1185
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: Cowboys to my alma mater, the University of Texas, right

1186
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: like you not only do you have to be a

1187
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: great coach, but you have to be a politician. And

1188
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: I think Mike is learning he's got to play with

1189
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: the media a little bit more than what he was

1190
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: doing before, because Sean plays with the media, and that's

1191
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: why everyone talks about him, right, like that's what works

1192
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: for Sean. You even kind of mirror some of the

1193
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: mistakes that Sean has made. But they did make a

1194
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: change at Texas. And look what Sark has done, you know,

1195
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: after Tom Herman, after Mac, you know he still doesn't

1196
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: want to thing. Digger behind the Glass is another u

1197
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: t A lum hook um hook them maybe. Uh so

1198
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: you're probably feeling pretty pumped right now. Yeah, just hearing

1199
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: just hearing them mentioned arch We got Arch well, the

1200
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: mentioned in the context of once great franchises who have

1201
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: totally fallen off. Literally very very comparable. Cowboys are very comparable.

1202
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: All right? Do we have any other more any other

1203
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: questions for Jane? She's very busy woman. I had one

1204
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: question about the Saints. Yeah, Dennis Allen when he came

1205
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: out of the Oakland experience, was that thing hanging over

1206
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: was like players just did not like this guy. And

1207
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: I get people can change, you know, Josh McDaniels is

1208
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: going through the same thing in his world. But what

1209
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: where are I mean to go from Sean Payton to

1210
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen? What do the players think about him? And

1211
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: can he escape the concept of like maybe an image

1212
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: problem there if they if they struggle, I think because

1213
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: he's been there as long as he has, it just

1214
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: feels like it almost feels like, uh seamless. Yeah, not

1215
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: to somewhere from our own network. You know, when when

1216
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: Q moves on, drink has already been in the seat, right,

1217
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: So for me, I kind of feel like that's what

1218
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Saints and there you go,

1219
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: look it up Google and everybody. I mean, that's there's

1220
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: not a succession plan, right, So it was a succession

1221
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: plan that I don't think anyone was shocked when they

1222
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: moved on. They're all about really kind of keeping continuity

1223
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: there and so I don't think it surprises anyone that

1224
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: Dennis is the guy, and I think he's probably changed

1225
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: that image a long time ago. But they do do

1226
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: things very very differently as it relates to the people

1227
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: aspect of their job. But in terms of what we

1228
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: can expect from them offensively in the way things go,

1229
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't expect a lot of big changes for them.

1230
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: There is she's going to be personnel at this point,

1231
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: specifically all in Kamara. We'll see all that thing shakes out. Yeah,

1232
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: that is very much up in the air as we

1233
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: begin training camp. Jane, you've said it all, and um,

1234
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: we just want to thank you. I love doing your show,

1235
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for having met. There's nobody to wrap it up.

1236
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: You've got three minutes right now. I talk so much.

1237
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: I need, like in life, do this with me. If

1238
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: you just walked by and I'm not saying what you

1239
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: did was strategic I wouldn't accuse you of that. You

1240
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: just came off air. Most likely it was just a quincidence.

1241
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: But if you do walk by right as we're about

1242
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: to start taping the show, every time it happens, you'll

1243
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: be on the show quite a bit. I mean, I'm

1244
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: such a fan girl. You guys might get a restraining order.

1245
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: Like Jane, we can't talk Colway's and sayings with you

1246
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: or your personal life every time you're at the network.

1247
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: All right, Jane Slater, thank you very much. Thanks Jane.

1248
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: All Right, there she goes Jane Slater. We'll reiterate it.

1249
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: You're right. It feels like it's always marked the conversations like, well,

1250
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: this year the Cowboys have to do something. But it's

1251
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: just like, come on, I'm not getting sucked in with

1252
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: this team. But I also don't get the vibe that

1253
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: this is an NFC Titan. I think this is a

1254
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: team that could win ten, ten or eleven games in

1255
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: that division, but it doesn't seem like they have enough horses.

1256
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: But I do believe you uttered the same exact phrase

1257
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: a year ago around this time. I'm not getting sucked

1258
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: in by last year, though they did exceed expectations, they

1259
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: did win twelve games there were, but sometimes a playoff

1260
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: game wipes away everything in one of those cases. And

1261
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: really there their last month offensively, it was it wasn't

1262
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: just that game. They came into that game offense that

1263
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: against good teams. It was just one of the worst

1264
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys offenses we've seen under Dak Prescott. It came out

1265
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Uh. And I'm fascinated by Dac more than

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Speaker 1: anything because he was not the guys. I shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: so general because I think if you're pointing to one

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Speaker 1: thing that I'm concerned about, it is Dac last year

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Speaker 1: maybe not moving as well, not as confident. And now

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Speaker 1: you have Jane who covers that team, uh like a

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01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: glove on a hand, and she's saying, well, the offensive

1272
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: line is something to watch out for. That's it will

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see if Dac is the same guy

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01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: who was before the Giant game, um, or if there

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: this is just a different guy now going forward. That's

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: a major part of this because he almost has to

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01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: be he has to be a superstar to take things

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Speaker 1: to the next level. I think you're dealing with a

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01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: severe calf injury. He's had other injuries last year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we don't understand what that does to the neck up

1281
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: of a quarterback. I think that affected him. He always

1282
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Speaker 1: talked about now is I'm healthier than ever. I know

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01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: that's a trope, but it's like it seems to be

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01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: true with his body like that adds confidence, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: does he have the right parts around him lesser than

1286
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: last year? That's the issue and he might not need

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01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: to be as good if the defense is as good

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Speaker 1: as I think it could be, Like as good as

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Speaker 1: Parsons was, I feel like he had he almost should

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Speaker 1: get more pop for what he did. He was probably

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Speaker 1: the most fascinating rookies since we've started this podcast. I

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01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: was looking at like the Football Outsiders numbers. He was

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01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: also first in like success rate and yards for passle

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01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: out in coverage on top of what he was doing

1295
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: and run defense on top of being like there literally

1296
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: hasn't ever been an NFL player with the profile to

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Speaker 1: come into the league and do what he did. Uh

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Speaker 1: do you feel we know Trayvon Diggs had a big

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Speaker 1: breakout year last year, but you know, interceptions that could

1300
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: be there could be a regression with that type of

1301
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 1: playmaking ability. Do you see enough pieces on defense other

1302
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: than obviously the very special second year. I like the

1303
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: front seven in general. Um, but you're right, Diggs was

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01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: a guy they stopped throwing too. Uh. He was intercepting

1305
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: so many passes and the rest of the secondary doesn't

1306
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: get you excited. But man, they were playing well and

1307
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: Quinn did it. Like I think the whole Randy Gregory

1308
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: thing ended up working out fine. They have a promising

1309
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: second round pick, Sam Williams. You get a whole season

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Speaker 1: maybe of Lawrence and Parsons together, Like I I think

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Speaker 1: I think they could be really mostly the top five

1312
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Speaker 1: defense most explosive rookie season of the a t n

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Speaker 1: Era jj Wat talking defense. Okay, I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: O'Dell is the guy to me, but if we're just

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Speaker 1: breaking down right, Herbert was awesome, but like O'Dell changed

1316
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Speaker 1: the temperature defense was in that world, j J Wat

1317
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: would be the guy, the the only one. But there's

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Speaker 1: you have to go through. It's like he's not he's

1319
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: not oh Tani Michael Parsons. But it's like that whole

1320
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Speaker 1: thing of where you're like, well, this is a guy

1321
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Speaker 1: who can play multiple multiple positions. Well, okay, tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me who is the guy that actually did what

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Speaker 1: Parsons has done at the NFL level, Because I was

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Speaker 1: kind of thinking about it, and there really isn't someone

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Speaker 1: that was a premier edge rusher and also was playing

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Speaker 1: in coverage a lot of the snaps and was good

1327
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Speaker 1: as an off ball linebacker like there. I literally can't

1328
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: think of someone who's had that profile and is that

1329
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Speaker 1: good at doing both. And what who's the first ballot

1330
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame or didn't become godlike until year two?

1331
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: But he did win. Yeah, he did win Rookie of

1332
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: the Year and he seems special, but you're right, he wasn't.

1333
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: He wasn't as god like. He had five and a

1334
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: half sacks as a rookie UM, but obviously was showing

1335
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: signs that he was a big time player and then

1336
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: he went off for the next few years. All Right,

1337
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Speaker 1: That was good, good talk on the Cowboys. That's just

1338
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Speaker 1: the first of three episodes this week. We are rolling.

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Speaker 1: We're back in the Chris Westling podcast studio. God damn,

1340
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Speaker 1: it feels good. It feels fresh. It does feel like.

1341
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: Our last episode was riddled with technical issues from our

1342
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: home from various home states. This is nicer, a fresh

1343
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: a fresh adult diaper. That's what it feels like to me.

1344
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: I have a lot of experience enjoyable. Imagine just you

1345
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: know that would feel you haven't had a lot of it.

1346
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: You've had some experience with it moderate, you know, during

1347
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: the summer, you know, just but now we're out of

1348
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: the fresh adult reak and I need to know more

1349
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: about that off air. I'm just like looking, I have

1350
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: a front row seat to you guys, and I think

1351
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: you're closer than normal. You know, You're just your blue

1352
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: eyes are just like locked into each other. You're just

1353
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: staring into the event and something. You guys just missed

1354
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: each other in person, and it's just like I can

1355
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: feel that chemistry. We missed you too, Like I'm like

1356
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: looking down while I speak now, we missed you too.

1357
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: But Dan brought up the topic of adult diapers, and

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Speaker 1: it takes things to another saying I'm picking up the

1359
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: vibe and I'm I'm digging it. And to be clear,

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Speaker 1: I've never worn an adult type, but I'm saying if

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Speaker 1: I were to get into that realm, yes, it would

1362
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: probably feel great, the fresh one. Yeah, it's probably on

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: your horizon, right, Yeah. Dan giving an early preview to

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: like around the NFL year thirty three. We're back, depends.

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: We're back and the ad rates are still solid. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's it until Wednesday. You know what you need to

1367
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: do do I have to tell you because I will.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling said it you better, he'd call