Speaker 1: Oi, Hey, my insight man as the kid it did
Speaker 1: Saucewalker Man. Right now we on bootleg Keill splashing and
Speaker 1: high fashion and dripping and never slipping.
Speaker 2: OUI yo Boutlet Cavs show Man special guests in here.
Speaker 2: I would like to give this man his flowers because
Speaker 2: I do feel like there are very few artists who
Speaker 2: have heavy influence on culture, of heavy influence on some
Speaker 2: of the biggest artists in the game, but don't get
Speaker 2: their credit. I would like to say softwalka one of
Speaker 2: the most influential rappers the last decade or so.
Speaker 3: He's here the h town legend.
Speaker 4: Uie.
Speaker 1: I appreciate those flowers. Those are very truthful words, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's a different side of the
Speaker 1: truth that some people don't want to, you know, reciprocateor
Speaker 1: acknowledge how many huge stars that like have actually built
Speaker 1: the whole makeup off of, you know, the Saucewalker legacy
Speaker 1: and my style and my indifference.
Speaker 3: And your slang slang fashion fashion.
Speaker 1: It'd be funny sometimes because I hear some people say
Speaker 1: it'd be funny, like I hear like the fans of
Speaker 1: the coming they'd be like, you look like an older
Speaker 1: version of so and so, and they'd be funny, like
Speaker 1: they just don't know that they're really looking at this
Speaker 1: artist reimulating me. You know, they know you mean that
Speaker 1: they're like a younger version of me, is what you're
Speaker 1: trying to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you've been doing this shit for I mean
Speaker 2: dog years at this point, Like I think I just
Speaker 2: told you. I think the first time we worked I
Speaker 2: DJed for you at a show randomly was maybe like
Speaker 2: ten years ago, nine years ago, something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've officially like been is a successful superstar artist
Speaker 1: for like ten years. I've been rapping like the TSF
Speaker 1: things starting like twenty thirteen. I blew up twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four right now. Yeah, that's a full
Speaker 1: decade like on paper, but you know, the battle in
Speaker 1: the fight for the success it has been allowed lifelong journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about like, you know, so many people
Speaker 2: have came to Houston and gotten and you know there's
Speaker 2: guys like Drake giving back to Houston a lot, and
Speaker 2: like Mad made it a point you out of his
Speaker 2: way to kind of like still be there for Houston,
Speaker 2: show up, do events, and you know, but I just
Speaker 2: feel like Houston is like one of them markets that's
Speaker 2: kind of like the Bay Area in California, where so
Speaker 2: many people have like taken from it, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: the credit has never really necessarily like attributed to it
Speaker 2: as much as it should be.
Speaker 1: I feel that it's a it's like a fifty fifty
Speaker 1: stake and responsibility for that truth like which that is
Speaker 1: one hundred percent the truth of like the the legacy
Speaker 1: and the lineage of Houston has been appropriated and uh
Speaker 1: recycled without Houston getting the recognition and the flowers or
Speaker 1: the opportunities that come from the ideas and the culture
Speaker 1: and the instance of Houston. But I I blame fifty
Speaker 1: percent of the responsibility of that on the industry. I
Speaker 1: blame the other fifty percent on the city of Houston, Texas,
Speaker 1: because we have become more of a consumers market than
Speaker 1: a seller's market. And that's not the original, that's not
Speaker 1: the origin of Texas sound, not even just Houston, Texas
Speaker 1: as a whole. We're known for being independent artists, whole
Speaker 1: sellers of coming from by these CDs out the trunk,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Self distributed, self distributed selling US.
Speaker 3: Wrap a lot records.
Speaker 4: What do we chop a lot of.
Speaker 1: Records, A solemn markers, a screw up click workers, switcher house,
Speaker 1: swave house.
Speaker 4: It goes on and on, dope house, it goes on
Speaker 4: and on.
Speaker 1: All of these are independent, millionaire, multimillionaire record labels and distributions, so.
Speaker 4: So South distributions. I can just keep going on.
Speaker 1: It's uh so so many different pillars in the state
Speaker 1: of Texas that have been even in DSR, and that
Speaker 1: nothing just cut them.
Speaker 3: Off the dsorry. Remember DSR, right, So.
Speaker 1: It's so many different Texas pillars who have been independent
Speaker 1: and made mellions and millions of dollars nothing less than
Speaker 1: six figures high, six figures a year off of being
Speaker 1: independent and representing, being engulfed and like overly loving and
Speaker 1: appreciating our sound. The Internet kind of fucked it up.
Speaker 1: The Internet broke that up. Like people from the Bay
Speaker 1: will never get out of enjoying and representing the cultures
Speaker 1: and the fruits of Bay Area ways like the hairstyles
Speaker 1: having a duct tail or the long dread, something like
Speaker 1: that if one part of the Bay, if we're doing
Speaker 1: this in sact that we're gonna do this in Vallet ho.
Speaker 1: If we're doing this vlayo, then we're gonna do this
Speaker 1: in Oakland, right, you know what I mean? Versus to
Speaker 1: where in Texas is like if and before I get
Speaker 1: thuggling to the point when these their styles or these
Speaker 1: lingos way up talking way of dressing, whatever they y'all
Speaker 1: do this Bay Area shit, when it hits the internet
Speaker 1: and the Internet doesn't necessarily agree with it or feel
Speaker 1: like like like that's cool, like they was like that
Speaker 1: shit look weird, that shit lane that ship, then the
Speaker 1: Bay Area is not gonna not continue to act the
Speaker 1: way that they act because it doesn't fit in with y'all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't fit in with the white people addressing in
Speaker 1: New Orleans or the whiteople dressing in New York with
Speaker 1: the drill saying y'all don't know Debay doesn't give a
Speaker 1: fuck about that.
Speaker 4: The Bay is going to be the bait.
Speaker 1: If we this, and we this, and if we you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, whatever we own pimping, whatever style
Speaker 1: of music that we own, they own it.
Speaker 4: Versus to whereas in Texas, like you have a.
Speaker 1: Large amount of our community that wants to fit in
Speaker 1: with what they see on the internet more or less
Speaker 1: than continue to create and be indifferent on the Internet
Speaker 1: and own and own your identity. Like when you go
Speaker 1: to Florida, they own their identity. The gold teeth, the
Speaker 1: dunk cars, all of dressing, the weak hairstyles, the the
Speaker 1: Haitian culture, like all of this ship is things that
Speaker 1: empowers the culture and empowers their music. It empowers their
Speaker 1: their economy as well, because there's certain essence and things
Speaker 1: that you have to go to their market to buy
Speaker 1: if you want it done correctly. So it's like with Houston,
Speaker 1: if you want to correct I stock grill permanent in
Speaker 1: your mouth, You're gonna come to Houston. If you're a
Speaker 1: rap artist and you want your teeth to look and
Speaker 1: you want to compete with the teeth that's going around
Speaker 1: in the world and the jury that's going around the
Speaker 1: world and not look like you you spent less money
Speaker 1: or got some bullshit, then you're gonna go to Texas
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go to the right people. That's the
Speaker 1: best they're doing it. Plug Geo Johenna Dane, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's the when it comes to
Speaker 1: the essays of music and screwed and chop culture or
Speaker 1: dressing a certain way that that represents.
Speaker 3: Even the cars.
Speaker 4: The cars.
Speaker 1: I was like, even we think about that in the
Speaker 1: last decade, Softwalker is the only Houston, Texas rapper to
Speaker 1: have swinkers on this car and vocalize and then publicizes
Speaker 1: to the world, I'm the only nigga that did that.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it is interesting to think that's weird because
Speaker 2: when I was like, obviously shot to Paul Wall and
Speaker 2: all those guys like that was like the first time
Speaker 2: I ever saw those fucking rims.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and salute the Powerwall, Like, the legends are legend,
Speaker 1: like Jones slimped our legends. They keep the fruits of
Speaker 1: our culture, you know what I'm saying, dump like and
Speaker 1: people face prominent, they keep it like existing, they keep
Speaker 1: it like you know what I'm saying to the forefront,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the younger generation. The younger generation and
Speaker 1: the current generation is who plants the seeds to the future.
Speaker 1: So if the people that's between the ages of.
Speaker 4: Thirty five to twenty five is not.
Speaker 1: Doing it, did that mean that the people's from the
Speaker 1: ages from twenty five to fifteen are not going to
Speaker 1: want to do it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because between fifteen and twenty five,
Speaker 1: these are the young adults who are on the TikTok,
Speaker 1: who own all the toucial media platforms. They playing sports,
Speaker 1: they still in high school, they're still in middle school.
Speaker 1: So whatever information they downloading it to their brain that
Speaker 1: represents they city and they culture. They're going on the
Speaker 1: internet and making a thriving force. That's why the drill
Speaker 1: scene has lasted so long, because it's not about the
Speaker 1: rappers that running around shooting each other and dancing and
Speaker 1: fighting and representing the hoods. It's about these children that
Speaker 1: we see on the internet constantly programming our brains with
Speaker 1: these dances, constantly programming our brains with these skits and
Speaker 1: these tiktoks. And then it goes global. Now we got
Speaker 1: people weigh in the UK making drill music and drill
Speaker 1: dances and altering what's the biggest wave of style in
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 4: So therefore.
Speaker 1: You don't see how that creates money, and it creates wealth,
Speaker 1: and it creates an identity, and it creates a respect
Speaker 1: factor in the music industry where the companies and the
Speaker 1: powers that be when they want to utilize that sound
Speaker 1: in a commercial because it's going to bring sales, it's
Speaker 1: going to bring engagement that if they want to utilize
Speaker 1: the settings or one of the stadiums in your city,
Speaker 1: they still have to incorporate the music scene and the
Speaker 1: culture that's in that city within those events. Houston missed
Speaker 1: out on that for a ten year span while we
Speaker 1: were still having like huge events happening in the city.
Speaker 4: We had Super Bowls, we had.
Speaker 1: All Star Games, We've had NCAA tournaments final fours. We've
Speaker 1: had all of these different things and go on in
Speaker 1: the State of Texas along with our annual stuff like
Speaker 1: the Rodeo. Rodeo lives exactly said, you know about this
Speaker 1: type of shit, but none of the ten fifteen young
Speaker 1: dominant artists from the state of Texas are ever involved
Speaker 1: in these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought it was interesting. Like obviously
Speaker 2: don't know the politics of the Houston Rodeo. It's huge
Speaker 2: for people who don't know. The Houston Rodeo is probably
Speaker 2: the biggest annual event in Houston, period period.
Speaker 1: It's at the Football Stadium absolutely all weekend long. It's
Speaker 1: no it's such it's a month it's a month long event.
Speaker 1: But the main the main ship the week shows is
Speaker 1: a weekend or two. It's like a weekend or two,
Speaker 1: Like it's like a country weekend. But you're still gonna
Speaker 1: have some some some good souls thinking all this good
Speaker 1: r and b artists and stuff like this, Like you
Speaker 1: will have some other artists who not necessarily rappers, but
Speaker 1: they make like alternative music.
Speaker 4: Yeah, being that part. And then the next weekend.
Speaker 1: Is the rapper Like recently it's too it's a rap
Speaker 1: weekend and it's like a singing weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say recently because like obviously when
Speaker 2: we're thinking of like rodeos, you're thinking like country music,
Speaker 2: fucking rednecks whatever, right, right, But it's like very much
Speaker 2: a part of Texas culture.
Speaker 3: That's ranches all over Texas, Like it is what it
Speaker 3: is for.
Speaker 1: Sure, Like I grew up and riding horses in my
Speaker 1: hood and you write where you're riding a horse, you
Speaker 1: will see a Lamborghini or Porsche Ferrari or Rose Royce
Speaker 1: drop right past.
Speaker 4: This is part of the culture, just a part.
Speaker 2: Of the life that But like I know, recently, was
Speaker 2: it bun be that put together?
Speaker 1: Like the Yeah, for the last four or five years,
Speaker 1: be been like like maybe three years four years just.
Speaker 2: Putting together like the All star teeah yeah, yeah, who's who?
Speaker 2: I think Drake came out of the last one. Yes,
Speaker 2: this last one, I know ot came out, which was
Speaker 2: big for him.
Speaker 1: Shout ou yeah te that was that was the That
Speaker 1: was like a little ray of sunshine for us.
Speaker 4: Like why was it gonna say, like, how do you
Speaker 4: feel about it? Though? Could you ask you about Houston?
Speaker 1: No, just the the the rodeo and the line up
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought I thought it was dope because
Speaker 2: I mean, look like I remember when I think the
Speaker 2: first time I'd seen Bunby doing it, at least to
Speaker 2: my peripherals, because I just start I watched Yellowstone, that
Speaker 2: show with Kevin Costner, so I started pay attention to
Speaker 2: rodeo shit, so so like not this not this last
Speaker 2: time at the time before because I was telling my wife.
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, low key, like we should go
Speaker 5: to the fucking rodeo because we're watching Yellowstone and ship
Speaker 5: you know, and uh And I was like, yo, bun
Speaker 5: Bee's putting together a fucking lineup and it was like
Speaker 5: the h Town All Stars and they was like everybody
Speaker 5: was that.
Speaker 3: I thought it was dope.
Speaker 2: But I think that, like, it's funny that you said
Speaker 2: what you said earlier, right, because, like I said, I'm
Speaker 2: a big like Scarface is one of my goats.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I love Scarface. I love the switch of House movement.
Speaker 2: I loved all that shit, all the color changing and
Speaker 2: click shit when I was a kid. I used to
Speaker 2: sell those mixtapes at high school and shit. And it's
Speaker 2: funny that, like some of the biggest artists, I always forget,
Speaker 2: not necessarily I always forget, but when I'm talking about
Speaker 2: Houston artists, I always forget to mention the biggest artists
Speaker 2: from Houston. Does that make sense because it's not necessarily
Speaker 2: like the front of their imagery or branding. So like,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll talk about Houston artists all the time,
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, yo, max O Cream and fucking
Speaker 2: ot and and you know, Payso pay So or Saltwalk
Speaker 2: or whatever. I always forget, like, oh shit, don Toller's
Speaker 2: from fucking Houston.
Speaker 3: Is that Megan's from Houston?
Speaker 4: You know, we don't have.
Speaker 2: Travis is from Houston, you know. And this is a
Speaker 2: guy who's has done astral World in town and.
Speaker 1: Is working these people at the Rodeo that's fair, or
Speaker 1: any of these people at the rodeo, or any of
Speaker 1: these artists performing at the road, any of the last
Speaker 1: ten artists that you just named, except for one.
Speaker 4: Lt that's real. That's weird.
Speaker 1: But love and respect to bun Bee and everything that
Speaker 1: he does for Houston in the state of Texas. And
Speaker 1: it's probably some things that's out of his hand, out
Speaker 1: of his control. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if you was to compare that to will, what you
Speaker 1: would say is the.
Speaker 4: Summer Jam in New York.
Speaker 1: If you was to compare that to a the Birthday
Speaker 1: bash in Atlanta, you.
Speaker 2: Could say, the who's who of any of those artists
Speaker 2: from those cities. They would never They've already been there
Speaker 2: and done.
Speaker 1: They were never in the history of niggadom. They were
Speaker 1: never in the history of music allowed these type of
Speaker 1: events to go on and not have the young artist
Speaker 1: were talking about this, right, I don't.
Speaker 2: Care If forty one Jen Carter and Kyle Rich and
Speaker 2: those guys just this summer.
Speaker 1: Jam, okay, then forty one mess mess exactly.
Speaker 4: That shit right there.
Speaker 1: That's what makes sense, that's what keeps there, that's what
Speaker 1: keeps them at the top of media. That's what keeps
Speaker 1: them at the top of gatekeeping. That's what makes it
Speaker 1: to where when the artist blows up, you have to
Speaker 1: touch the New York market, you have to touch the
Speaker 1: California market, because they understand recycling the power of their generations.
Speaker 1: We don't have that right because we have so many
Speaker 1: people that wants to hold hold the gate when and
Speaker 1: all you're doing is you're making us obsolete to the
Speaker 1: rest of the competition around the world.
Speaker 4: Around the world.
Speaker 1: It does not make sense to have a rolling loud.
Speaker 1: Just what you're basically just saying is that our Houston
Speaker 1: Rodeo is to the equivalent of a rolling loud a
Speaker 1: Coach Eeller birthday bash. These type of events where it's
Speaker 1: going to be sixty seventy thousand people in the arena,
Speaker 1: why would you not and up these sixty thousand people.
Speaker 1: Seventy percent of these people are within the age group
Speaker 1: of the artists that are the existing artists right now,
Speaker 1: from thirty to twenty five years, from through thirty, from
Speaker 1: their thirties to their twenties. None of the performing artists
Speaker 1: are in the thirties in their twenties, though every performing
Speaker 1: artist is in their forties or their fifties. True, that's
Speaker 1: to say that's a problem, that's weird, that doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense that I've talk just period though, But it goes
Speaker 1: bigger than the I'm not trying to make like this
Speaker 1: whole interview about no for sure, about the what is
Speaker 1: it called again, the rodeo? Right, that's why the rodeo
Speaker 1: is not It's important to the to the older people,
Speaker 1: but it's not that important to the youth in Texas.
Speaker 1: It's not as important and powerful as it could be.
Speaker 1: And there would be other events that would come circling
Speaker 1: around that as well, because then the world will see, Oh,
Speaker 1: it makes sense for rolland Loud to come to Texas.
Speaker 4: It makes sense for us to make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be a Rolling lou Texas.
Speaker 1: That will make no sense. We're talking about the third fourth.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the third biggest state, fourth biggest city,
Speaker 1: third biggest state, fourth biggest.
Speaker 2: City, the second biggest state, right, isn't it Alaska in Texas?
Speaker 4: It's the other one. I think it's New York.
Speaker 3: I've you were talking about land masks.
Speaker 1: No land masks, we number two. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that on all scales which were Trump and ship
Speaker 1: is when you you add about population, we're number four,
Speaker 1: uh Houston in America by population, we number four by
Speaker 1: land mass, were number two.
Speaker 4: By state, we're number three.
Speaker 1: So it's like you know what I mean, and you know, uh,
Speaker 1: if you look at the just just the demographic of everything,
Speaker 1: we got two of them. We probably have one of
Speaker 1: the biggest sports markets in America period. We have every
Speaker 1: team that you can imagine period. We have all of
Speaker 1: the basketball teams in three multiple out of one.
Speaker 3: State, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, like, just make it make sense. We
Speaker 1: have all the exactly so how can y'all not create
Speaker 1: the lucrativeness and the funds and the finances off of
Speaker 1: bringing concerts and our in our state.
Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense. It's to be huge, immensive.
Speaker 1: Concerts in the state of Texas with all of the
Speaker 1: big artists from outside of Texas and the artists inside
Speaker 1: of Texas. We don't get those moments because it's not
Speaker 1: enough trick, it's not enough traction coming from the state.
Speaker 4: They don't see.
Speaker 1: Enough concerts and enough venues and enough heard ticket sales
Speaker 1: within the state.
Speaker 3: Do you think Travis tried to do.
Speaker 4: It with Astro did. I ain't never tried to do it.
Speaker 4: He did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta give it to Travis. Travis is the
Speaker 1: only person that did. There's like me and Travis is
Speaker 1: like that's why we like the god like legends that
Speaker 1: we is. Like, no matter what, the screw cannot take
Speaker 1: shit away from Travis because at every different level did
Speaker 1: Travis reach, he comes back and do something great for
Speaker 1: the city. So it's like, you can't take that from bro, Like, no, ma,
Speaker 1: sure what. And I'm one of them people that be
Speaker 1: like behind closed doors on his ass about this shit,
Speaker 1: like that's our relationship.
Speaker 3: I would like to see I see.
Speaker 2: I just feel like there's like this crazy moment in
Speaker 2: Texas hip hop happening where you know, right now two
Speaker 2: of the Freshmans are from.
Speaker 3: State something three three OT and who else?
Speaker 4: Four bats?
Speaker 3: Four bats?
Speaker 1: Yeah, ship, you see what I'm saying, That type of
Speaker 1: ship that pissed me out like this, there's just stop
Speaker 1: it right.
Speaker 4: There, That's what I'm trying to say. It's ship like that.
Speaker 1: You should know without a shoutou of a doubt off
Speaker 1: the rip four batses from Texas.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But to be fair, he hasn't done a ton of media.
Speaker 4: He's done enough.
Speaker 1: He's done way more than even though the way he know,
Speaker 1: the way he came out, the way he blew up,
Speaker 1: he blew up on from the block, from the block
Speaker 1: said that the man was from that is every time
Speaker 1: that he was on there from the block, showed that
Speaker 1: he blew up on his street. If you go to
Speaker 1: here from the block performance, the gall the barrier, the
Speaker 1: border that's around it, it shows Strawberry Street, Dallas with.
Speaker 4: The woo Texas. It's not enough.
Speaker 1: Texas is not putting enough emphasis on Texas.
Speaker 4: We're not We're not grasping this.
Speaker 1: This this character and this artist is saying, that's another
Speaker 1: representation of us postalone, that's another riveration of us. So
Speaker 1: we will see big extra club, big ex of plug
Speaker 1: Toss Walker and in Mexican ot shoving it down your throat,
Speaker 1: were shoving the Texas like you Texas mother.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Yeah, no, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's for every artist should be doing it,
Speaker 1: not just like this is our co community. The fans,
Speaker 1: the people should support it. They should support the slow
Speaker 1: of shit. They should support all Texas music listen to.
Speaker 1: They should wane to even the promoters and the promoters
Speaker 1: in the club being used and like that. They got
Speaker 1: to stop trying to underpay. Like I'm one of the
Speaker 1: few artists. I get paid what I want to get paid,
Speaker 1: whatever I get, even if I'm going to an event
Speaker 1: or a place in my city, I'm getting twenty five
Speaker 1: thirty thousand, fifteen thousand. If I'm just doing some walk
Speaker 1: through shit around the world and getting paid twenty five
Speaker 1: thirty thousand, whatever. But it's so many people in the
Speaker 1: city and part of promoters try to make the attempt
Speaker 1: to undercharge or underpay. You know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: I know that everybody else that's what they're getting. That's
Speaker 1: why you don't even see our super duper stars making
Speaker 1: a Stallion and Travis Scott doing events and parties in
Speaker 1: the city a lot, because the city don't want to
Speaker 1: pay them what they deserve, so they have the coming
Speaker 1: do events on their own. Coming Atlanta exactly. Atlanta in
Speaker 1: New York is not gonna allow that. California is not
Speaker 1: gonna allow that. Once Blue Faces blue Face, we're paying him,
Speaker 1: Kendrick is Kendrick, We're paying him once? Why gus Y
Speaker 1: g we're paying him when uh the little baby is
Speaker 1: a little baby. We're paying him whoever it is, whoever
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, we're paying him. Who the new nigga that
Speaker 1: is singing, just do it, just making all the singing songs. Uh, yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know about names that he got. A he
Speaker 1: just popped up on the internet with all the red cars,
Speaker 1: the tile nigga hunh nah, he's from Atlanta, about the
Speaker 1: new Atlanta harderst bro. I forget about name he got
Speaker 1: the twenty two times I see him on in and
Speaker 1: all the time. I just don't know about name like
Speaker 1: that because I'm you know what I'm saying. But regardless,
Speaker 1: they're supporting this man. The nigga they be singing. He
Speaker 1: like the Atlanta. He finna be. He on his way
Speaker 1: to be in Atlanta, Rod Wave. He's doing a great job.
Speaker 1: Whoever the nigga is, y'all know him talking about he's
Speaker 1: doing a great job. And he got he got to
Speaker 1: pop that ten red cars rapped up. He just did
Speaker 1: a concern everybody in the city show up.
Speaker 4: Who the fuck is he talking about? What's his nigga name? Bro?
Speaker 4: He just gonna come onuncho.
Speaker 1: I forget who he did the concert with somebody, very
Speaker 1: successful tour. He said, he's doing great, he's doing good,
Speaker 1: but it's a compiny. He's making great music, yes, good image, yes,
Speaker 1: but it's a combination of his city in his state.
Speaker 4: It's pushing him. We are pushing him Florida.
Speaker 1: They're gonna push Kodak, They're gonna push whoever is that
Speaker 1: who we is having.
Speaker 4: My young nigga is doing his thing right now.
Speaker 1: Uh, Simmy, Like, whoever is the nigga that's that's emerging,
Speaker 1: that state and that city is gonna push that.
Speaker 4: We love this culture, we love this sound. We don't
Speaker 4: care how different.
Speaker 1: Even though even let's talk about this kid. This kid
Speaker 1: is a perfect example in the embodiment of what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to explain, when you have home court advantage of
Speaker 1: your city and your state supporting what you do. I
Speaker 1: don't know this kid name either, but you knows that's
Speaker 1: going to the Jewish kid rapper that's from Florida. I
Speaker 1: never knew what the his name was.
Speaker 3: Culture that bop culture kid.
Speaker 4: Look how he is dissected.
Speaker 1: I don't I have to say it like this, but
Speaker 1: just black culture, even though he's he's of it. Like
Speaker 1: just because he white and me Jewish, that don't change nothing.
Speaker 1: You are up the culture. You are proving that you're
Speaker 1: not opposer like you really this is your lifestyle. But
Speaker 1: marketing wise, as a product, we're talking about business from
Speaker 1: a business standpoint. He made his module off of black
Speaker 1: culture and re emulated it and still kept I'm a
Speaker 1: white Jewish kid involved. Yeah, he's still winning the hat
Speaker 1: comple that you see Jewish. You see now how I
Speaker 1: broke it down to you. That's coming together and making sense.
Speaker 3: It's like the little things that like, hey, what I
Speaker 3: am is in.
Speaker 4: Your face, and that's what matters. I try.
Speaker 1: I think wicks like a Florida person, So death for
Speaker 1: everybody in Florida. There's like why he rapping like us?
Speaker 1: And he got the he got the hasties in the
Speaker 1: videos with him, these hors everyday friends, and now this video,
Speaker 1: this is who I genuinely be with. I share the hairstyle,
Speaker 1: i share the rap style, but I'm different. I'm white
Speaker 1: and I'm Jewish, but I'm not gonna act like I'm
Speaker 1: not white and I'm not Jewish. And it's the beauty
Speaker 1: of all of these different greens.
Speaker 2: I mean, big Ax's first hit record, that's the platinum
Speaker 2: bit y'all from Texas from Texas?
Speaker 1: Like what as simple as that, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It takes OT.
Speaker 2: The songs called Johnny Dang and Paul Wall's on it,
Speaker 2: Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 4: Understand?
Speaker 1: But understand if like me, Big X and OT all
Speaker 1: us was able to like explain the same shit, like
Speaker 1: we all are kings and guards and superstars in Texas.
Speaker 1: But the way we all loved and appreciated outside of
Speaker 1: Texas versus Texas by the powers they be the fans too,
Speaker 1: but the fans are not always in the position. Where
Speaker 1: the fans powers come at is the streaming, the post
Speaker 1: and the play and the representation of us being them
Speaker 1: like a sports team.
Speaker 2: And you've always done a good job of like bringing
Speaker 2: up your crew. Obviously shout to pay So, pay So
Speaker 2: and Sauceman and all those guys. But you know, I
Speaker 2: think that the two people were talking about OT doing
Speaker 2: the same thing with Drodi and shout out to the Sixers,
Speaker 2: Shout out to two big as.
Speaker 1: We're doing our job, the all them good great artist
Speaker 1: Hard Hard the other brother that's with us.
Speaker 4: What's your name?
Speaker 3: Young Hood. Uh the freestyle for like twenty minutes on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his other artist, his name's young Hood. I was
Speaker 4: doing something. I call him he Fey.
Speaker 1: I know him like before, he's hardy been around, but
Speaker 1: he been like I did a song feature with him
Speaker 1: years ago, like good great artists. My point is is
Speaker 1: that it's a problem that so many Texas artists who
Speaker 1: bring up these great groups of artists, who bring out
Speaker 1: these these these coalitions of artists, these record labels of artists.
Speaker 1: It's very rare, like this is probably gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the first times in a second that were starting
Speaker 1: on the second decade period, Like after me being who
Speaker 1: I've been in the rap game and opening this door,
Speaker 1: like I'll open these doors for these people. Me and
Speaker 1: say cheeze TV try to say cheese together, we created
Speaker 1: what Texas is today. Like that's what I shout of
Speaker 1: it out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But he's got his label too, I know he signed up.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's doing a great job. Saun Cotton is that
Speaker 1: boy him? But again, like I was saying, like it's.
Speaker 4: Be the Pac manage we signed you, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the fact that all of these not just
Speaker 1: the superstars, the best friends supposed to be household names,
Speaker 1: like how these other cities and the other cities both.
Speaker 1: It would be a main artist friend that ain't even
Speaker 1: a rapper. He getting shout outs from these other big
Speaker 1: rappers on songs, he getting endorsements, he uh he in
Speaker 1: the he's in the other artist videos that's from another city.
Speaker 1: Why their main artists is not there? All of this
Speaker 1: shit matters product placement. This is what programs the brain.
Speaker 1: This is what programs the brain to see who is
Speaker 1: who and who's not, Who's famous, who should I be following?
Speaker 4: Who should I like?
Speaker 1: And to be honest, it's enough Texas superstars and artists
Speaker 1: for us to do all this shit on our own,
Speaker 1: but everybody got to put that bullshit in their egos aside.
Speaker 2: Just like hell of women that are doing and ken
Speaker 2: of man as though I think Lieber Joe Lee's from Texas.
Speaker 4: So look this on.
Speaker 1: I said, I love when you bring up all these people.
Speaker 1: Name when you which is all tasted superstar? Now tell
Speaker 1: me the songs and videos that we all got together. Right,
Speaker 1: where's the kender Man song with Little Kiki uh Sus Walker?
Speaker 1: And I don't fucking know kirk up maxing no Tea
Speaker 1: Kirk like just pid Like if you go to another
Speaker 1: city and state, it's you could go grab just one artist,
Speaker 1: like you can go grab a fucking Jadie Kiss and
Speaker 1: then grab all the new artists that they out of
Speaker 1: did a song together and they didn't mix it up.
Speaker 3: With the kiss has been on. Griselda Ship really ship,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: And I spice she gonna come straight out, Oh I'm
Speaker 1: fresh man telling over him.
Speaker 4: This person on this person.
Speaker 1: Like they they is passing the ball and then they
Speaker 1: shooting a video. Then they going to the radio and
Speaker 1: they pressing the radio. From both ends. We got the
Speaker 1: label pressing the radio. We got the young community artists
Speaker 1: pressing the radio. We got the O G artist pressing
Speaker 1: the radio. So therefore we get the result. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying is this in in Texas, there's like a
Speaker 1: huge flaw in its fifty percent of the artists and
Speaker 1: the people dis in position the powers. The promoter is
Speaker 1: the radios all that shit, and then the other fifty
Speaker 1: percent is the fans and the supporters because they take
Speaker 1: the like they type the motor, they they taped the
Speaker 1: wheel power in a fight out the artists they can't
Speaker 1: tape the fight.
Speaker 4: Out of me because I'm a god.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm him with music or not with music,
Speaker 1: and there'd be a lot of young artists that then
Speaker 1: lift the trail.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like too, Like I think what's dope
Speaker 2: about Texas is there's been guys like you, guys like
Speaker 2: Trade the Truths, guys like Bud b who have like
Speaker 2: at the very least, just been very instrumental to like
Speaker 2: there are leaders coming out of Texas like whether or not,
Speaker 2: like you know, the stuff is going on that we're
Speaker 2: talking about is happening or not. At the very least,
Speaker 2: there is like, Yo, if you're in fucking La and
Speaker 2: you're going to Texas, there's like two or three people
Speaker 2: you're like, well, I gotta fucking see what sauce Walk
Speaker 2: is on, or I gotta go tap in with Trade
Speaker 2: with Trade A, or you know, I got to go
Speaker 2: fucking go to Trilburger or some shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like this pillows, it's pillars
Speaker 1: in the city. You know what I'm saying, People that
Speaker 1: you're gonna fuck with them or space with it. If
Speaker 1: you if you coming to the town and you just
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You're trying to be all the
Speaker 1: way green light, you check in and just be with
Speaker 1: the people. You gonna come to JAYL. You're gonna come
Speaker 1: to Sauce. You canna come there, Prince, I gotta say, Prince,
Speaker 1: you gotta say j You're gonna go to us t yourself.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to rapp a lot, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But on some coming through the city in
Speaker 1: and join the city in, you feel me like going
Speaker 1: to uh like landmark places of landmark artists and all
Speaker 1: of those we ought to trades, the zeros, the key
Speaker 1: key bun b. You know what I'm saying. Everybody is there,
Speaker 1: everybody play. We're from a city full of legends, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I love all the legends
Speaker 1: that we have in our city. It's just I feel
Speaker 1: like we all should do more, Like we all could
Speaker 1: do more.
Speaker 4: We all should do more.
Speaker 1: And I'm not like the same way how I say
Speaker 1: what they shouldn't do And as much as I do,
Speaker 1: like I do a lot, but I still try to
Speaker 1: do more. That's why I got the saucepect, is why
Speaker 1: I bring all the young niggas together I'm bringing the
Speaker 1: rappers from out of town with the young niggas again.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing these niggas in their studio session.
Speaker 4: They ain't got nothing to do with it, you know.
Speaker 4: For sure. I'm just getting ready together.
Speaker 1: Doing whatever I can to make everybody. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, resty potential.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I feel like we just
Speaker 4: need more of it. But you talk to me, man,
Speaker 4: because want ship to talk about.
Speaker 3: Then for sure there's tons. I'm sure they're Uh.
Speaker 2: The one thing that I always appreciated about Texas is
Speaker 2: I remember the first time there was like something. It
Speaker 2: might have been an MTV video or something, but when
Speaker 2: Slim Thug came out, he said he was already platinum.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 2: He was right, he was sold a million, he was
Speaker 2: living at that he was living.
Speaker 3: He was doing big, big ship before we even knew
Speaker 3: who he was.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say I feel the same way
Speaker 2: about you because I remember seeing videos of you and
Speaker 2: I would be like, Yo, how's this guy so fucking
Speaker 2: rich rich like Jesus, And this is not like recently,
Speaker 2: this is like eight nine years ago, Like Yo, this
Speaker 2: guy saw squaking, got ship moveing.
Speaker 4: I'm on a ball of shit.
Speaker 2: And and the other thing that you I want to
Speaker 2: break down because like there's rap hustling. When you're an
Speaker 2: independent artist and you know how to kind of you're
Speaker 2: a fucking all time great rap hustler.
Speaker 4: I gotta be like top two. I really think I'm
Speaker 4: the number one bro.
Speaker 2: When I tell you that you've you've DM so like
Speaker 2: like you're like break down the rap hustle in general,
Speaker 2: because I've had you.
Speaker 4: I put it to you like this, like okay for
Speaker 4: number one.
Speaker 1: Like what I've always felt like is that rappers or
Speaker 1: like people in position of power with social media presences
Speaker 1: that use their social media they look at their social
Speaker 1: media platform like their baby mama's vagina, like I cannot
Speaker 1: share this with the world, like this is my yeah.
Speaker 3: This is my esthetics. I don't want to mess up
Speaker 3: my social media.
Speaker 4: On social media aesthetic in it. I look at my
Speaker 4: social media page like Walmart.
Speaker 1: This is a place of digital business, a place of
Speaker 1: digital real estate.
Speaker 4: Excuse me that I have.
Speaker 1: A fluent flow of customers going in and out of
Speaker 1: it every second of the day.
Speaker 4: Now, the amount of traffic.
Speaker 1: That I have going through this digital real estate that
Speaker 1: is determined by the amount of activity and the amount
Speaker 1: of marketing, promotion and lights and special shit that I
Speaker 1: put on my location. But at the same token, if
Speaker 1: I can make the same money that I would make
Speaker 1: doing a concert or the same money that I would
Speaker 1: make selling albums by letting a thousand of my customers
Speaker 1: give me.
Speaker 4: Five hundred dollars for a service.
Speaker 1: Deck in their mind, this service is worth two thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars. But I'm still talking about letting a
Speaker 1: thousand people give me five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: What would that service be. That's an example, a verse
Speaker 3: or a repost, A repost okay.
Speaker 4: Or me shout or not me.
Speaker 1: It's because then it's level too, because like some of
Speaker 1: this shit I'm doing for forty fifty thirty thousand.
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When when it came to monopolizing and optimized and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't have to get this part like I do.
Speaker 1: I do a whole song with this person for twenty
Speaker 1: five thousand. Okay, you pay me twelve five for the song,
Speaker 1: twelve five for the video, and then you do sales too.
Speaker 1: All I'm doing says not that that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: this is how we get into the tiers of the
Speaker 1: rap hustles, like we get it to the tiers of
Speaker 1: the rap hustle. Okay, that's just doing the song and
Speaker 1: the video with you. Then it's the you want the
Speaker 1: problem of it. Okay, you want the primary artists? You
Speaker 1: want to fuck you are a primary artist. That's another price.
Speaker 1: I'm a cook of the song, just on the g
Speaker 1: that we are in independent. But then you want to
Speaker 1: put it on my YouTube. That's another three thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred to put it on my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: You can put it on your YouTube channel. You want
Speaker 1: me to post it on my main page. You won't
Speaker 1: post it on my story. I posted on my main page.
Speaker 1: It's another five thousand. You want to post on my story,
Speaker 1: that's twenty five hundred. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: all the different levels. But then that's that's me doing
Speaker 1: a whole song with you're shooting a whole video. I
Speaker 1: might charge you ten whatever. You might want to do
Speaker 1: a package to do a multiple multitude of the songs.
Speaker 1: But instead of doing all of that work, I can
Speaker 1: make the same fifty grand by just charging one thousand
Speaker 1: people five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, And of course of thirty days,
Speaker 4: and the.
Speaker 1: Course of of course of thirty sixty days, I done.
Speaker 4: Just made.
Speaker 1: Something that took two minutes of my time to something
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna repost for a shoot that I like
Speaker 1: for free, and I'm gonna get this person in marketing
Speaker 1: a funny video that I like on Instagram for free.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna repost it to get some laughs and to
Speaker 1: talk about it in my DM with my friends or
Speaker 1: somebody say an affirmation of some fucking quote that you
Speaker 1: think it's so important, and you're gonna repost that the
Speaker 1: shittest information. I could be reposting somebody else's business idea
Speaker 1: and get paid twelve hundred, fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: And then I can do that one thousand times because
Speaker 1: I'm getting thirty thousand likes fifty thousand likes. If I
Speaker 1: can get fifty thousand likes twenty five thousand reshares on
Speaker 1: the video, I could make two three four thousand people
Speaker 1: give me five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: For sure. I'm not aiming at.
Speaker 1: Getting two three thousand people to get me thirty thousand,
Speaker 1: forty thousand.
Speaker 4: I just want you hundred dollars. I'm still making millions
Speaker 4: of dollars.
Speaker 1: Right If I get ty thousand people to give me
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars in the course of a year, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Then now you multiply that by doing multiple artists.
Speaker 3: And then the other thing is is like element, here's
Speaker 3: one huddle. I'm in this city tapping. If you need a.
Speaker 1: Diverse city, you need the verse, you need promo, what
Speaker 1: you need to your party. You need me to come
Speaker 1: to your store. You want me to listen to your music.
Speaker 1: This shit go deep to just constentation or listening to music.
Speaker 1: You want me to listen to your song. Brother, I
Speaker 1: will not listen to your song on my own person
Speaker 1: on the song. But if you want me to listen
Speaker 1: to your song, give you my personal opinion on what
Speaker 1: you should do. Bactually, I'm being a consultant thirty three
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, thirty three thousand dollars, but I'm sity there
Speaker 1: with your smoke and blount which toll, listen to your song?
Speaker 1: Tell you what I FaceTime whatever, FaceTime video. All of
Speaker 1: these are different properties that can get sold because Jesus
Speaker 1: running it up. I can sit up Hell with my
Speaker 1: motherfucker phone in my hand, bob my head. This ain't
Speaker 1: even a real I'm not even listening to your song.
Speaker 1: I'm bobbing my head. I sell you the video of
Speaker 1: me boy my head for four thousand dollars. You could
Speaker 1: put your song on three different version of it is.
Speaker 1: I can send you three different angles, three different shirt songs.
Speaker 1: I'm just bobbing my head.
Speaker 4: Now. You just throw to your music sound on top
Speaker 4: of you know what I'm saying, right, that's crazy? How
Speaker 4: can I ever run out of millions of dollars? When
Speaker 4: I understand?
Speaker 3: I want to get into.
Speaker 2: How from your perspective, and we won't get into why
Speaker 2: your perspective matters in this field, but you know, when
Speaker 2: I was growing up, we had a track in my
Speaker 2: town of Phoenix on Van Buren in which there was
Speaker 2: always it was where you went, there was holes on
Speaker 2: the street. I want to know, from your perspective, being
Speaker 2: in Texas and you know, living the life that you've lived,
Speaker 2: how did the Internet and only fans change what we
Speaker 2: know as the.
Speaker 1: UH it's a red box for the exotic industry? Is
Speaker 1: Hulu for the exotic industry is because.
Speaker 3: You still have tracks everywhere, Like you go to Figure.
Speaker 1: And there's women that's checks all around the world. But
Speaker 1: like I said, with anything and life levels. So just
Speaker 1: like in a double game, you got selling little crack rocks,
Speaker 1: you got people that are selling half of zips. You
Speaker 1: got people that are selling megatons and using planes and
Speaker 1: jets marijuana. You there was a point of time where
Speaker 1: fucking Burner, who is just a regular trapper and.
Speaker 3: Rapper, and now he's now he's on the cover for US.
Speaker 1: Now he's on the cover of for US as being
Speaker 1: a fucking businessman and genius entrepreneur through cannabinoids in cannabis.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 1: So I felt that not even about what I felt,
Speaker 1: because before I felt this was was already happening without
Speaker 1: my power or control. I'm just not an idiot that
Speaker 1: wasn't going to evolve with the timing. If everybody's playing
Speaker 1: PlayStation five and Xbox and they seeing the maximum graphics
Speaker 1: and they getting the maximum download and gameplay, why would.
Speaker 4: You still play a fucking game before?
Speaker 1: Why would you still be on the sixty four Now
Speaker 1: you're still taking the risk of your game breaking your
Speaker 1: game overheating motherfucking cords busting with all the orders of problems,
Speaker 1: with the way of.
Speaker 2: The old way of doing something, came with an old
Speaker 2: way of problems exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't got I'm on a whole another level of
Speaker 1: life as a human being, not just a lot more
Speaker 1: usual of the game. I have a lot more to lose.
Speaker 1: I have a lot more knowledge and information. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't even make first the first level of this. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for me to have people that I'm
Speaker 1: associated with walking up and down the street and doing that,
Speaker 1: because that's already the low tier of this game that
Speaker 1: my mind has already passed. That you got this girl
Speaker 1: walking up and down the street for four five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars two three thousand dollars, bro, I'm putting this girl
Speaker 1: in the air conditioning for twenty or thirty it did.
Speaker 1: That was a level that I succeeded. That was a
Speaker 1: strip club. Once I succeeded, they ended went to the internet.
Speaker 1: Now we're talking the same thing that we're talking about
Speaker 1: with the Instagram promotions, and now we're talking about pictures.
Speaker 4: There's no physical contact.
Speaker 1: So now these these women who are my girlfriends, the
Speaker 1: people that I'm associated with now you're putting them in
Speaker 1: a position where they keeping all of their dignity, keeping
Speaker 1: all of their sanity. They they they leave their house,
Speaker 1: they don't have to leave their house. They don't have
Speaker 1: to be touched and talk to anybody or deal with anybody,
Speaker 1: have no physical and comes with any other man besides
Speaker 1: you or who who they personally choose that they want
Speaker 1: to be around.
Speaker 4: If you really think about it, you saving these people.
Speaker 1: You give and it's something that they want to do
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, is I could
Speaker 1: make the same money that my body has to physically
Speaker 1: move and make actions to make by just taking pictures
Speaker 1: and editing it and then posting it.
Speaker 4: I've hit the Eureka mark.
Speaker 1: I've I've cracked the cold of life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't even have to do give a lap
Speaker 3: dance anymore.
Speaker 1: Exactly why would you want, Like, think about all the
Speaker 1: things that the girl had to go to drive to work,
Speaker 1: have a gun on her to protect herself, leaving and
Speaker 1: going to work, about the drive, locker room drama, care
Speaker 1: locker room drama, fighting the club. The managers want this,
Speaker 1: they want this potent. All of these are real. Added
Speaker 1: this dude's on cod This dude is drunk. This dude
Speaker 1: got too aggressive in or did in the back, the
Speaker 1: back room or on the stage, and.
Speaker 3: When they're standing feet away from a fight, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever, get hit? What abouttle? It touts you inappropriately?
Speaker 1: Now you're putting all of these things up here, and
Speaker 1: that's just the strip club.
Speaker 4: We ain't talking about being out on the streets.
Speaker 3: Now, that's just the club.
Speaker 4: That's just the club.
Speaker 1: You saying that that makes more sense or it's more
Speaker 1: feasible than and then's that's another thing to about, Like
Speaker 1: I said, levels, the level of beauty or the level
Speaker 1: of women that you are dealing with, or the woman
Speaker 1: that beauty that the woman possesses herself, or how much
Speaker 1: investment does she put in herself, whether it's financially going
Speaker 1: to the gym, dying right, all of those things.
Speaker 3: Matter matter because your best bet might be the strip club.
Speaker 1: Right, But don't get it twisted. There's a niche for everything.
Speaker 1: They got, the women on there making money, ugly women
Speaker 1: making money, ages. The Internet has a space and a
Speaker 1: place for everybody.
Speaker 3: So it's the day shift.
Speaker 1: So so my whole, my, my, my whole perspective of
Speaker 1: how I felt about it is like, the goal of.
Speaker 4: Life is to work smarter and not harder.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you love being the DJ and and
Speaker 1: something that you might still do from time to time
Speaker 1: because it's a passion of something that you love in y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's but like you said, it's smarter, not harder.
Speaker 2: That's why I had bought a club. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: why I trying to do good? I bej for two
Speaker 2: grand in the night? If I could stay at home
Speaker 2: and make that money just from the crib, you know.
Speaker 4: Why why be a DJ on the radio station?
Speaker 1: It's like, why that be my number one main source
Speaker 1: of income when I can go home and set up
Speaker 1: my own setup and sell my opinions and my visions
Speaker 1: to the entire world and get paid off that well was.
Speaker 3: It going to say for you?
Speaker 2: Because you know, there's like when you manage girls on
Speaker 2: only fans. The benefit of that is you have your
Speaker 2: network because you you have a very successful onlyfan. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I have seen your dick many times on accident, not
Speaker 2: on purpose. I never sought it out.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's a part of the It's a part of
Speaker 4: the game. You know.
Speaker 2: On porn Hub, you'll click on something and then there
Speaker 2: was one time I'm watching Pornhub and I was.
Speaker 4: Like, man, I did my thing.
Speaker 3: I was like, there is that?
Speaker 4: And I had to google.
Speaker 2: I said, Sauce Walker, I just take you like this,
Speaker 2: this motherfucker right here Exhibit A.
Speaker 1: Because you want to know why. Because I come from
Speaker 1: a place where niggas go to jail for doing this. Ship,
Speaker 1: I've been doing my whole life, and niggas don't come
Speaker 1: home for doing the shit that I've been Ship. I've
Speaker 1: grown up around and expanding my hard life and fucking
Speaker 1: bitches and taking pictures of my dick and sending it
Speaker 1: to hold.
Speaker 4: I've been doing that shit for free stock and middle school.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck would I be ashamed and fright to
Speaker 1: do it on the fucking camera because I care about
Speaker 1: what somebody else who gives it. I don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck about your opinion. I probably beat you up. You
Speaker 1: probably not a gangster. You probably are not a better
Speaker 1: pee than me. I don't just regular elite just game.
Speaker 1: You have not accomplised. You have not checked the traps
Speaker 1: that I've trapped A checked at one time. Bro, You've
Speaker 1: never seen nine hundred thousand dollars at one time in
Speaker 1: one day and I've done it multiple multiple times. Bro
Speaker 1: likes the money that I've made and the things that
Speaker 1: I've done in this world and still having my fucking
Speaker 1: freedom and my sanity. Nigga, I kissed the ground that
Speaker 1: I walk on every day, and I would be a
Speaker 1: damn fool to go to jail or it's already everything
Speaker 1: that I do with risk doing getting on these motherfucker
Speaker 1: platforms and talking about my passes. Why I'm okay to
Speaker 1: talk about that because this is my past, because I
Speaker 1: have the only fan. You know how many years I
Speaker 1: didn't do interviews because I knew how deep out in
Speaker 1: the game I was in.
Speaker 4: No, you didn't.
Speaker 1: You know You've been trying to get me everybody. But
Speaker 1: I know what I want to ask me. I know
Speaker 1: what you'll want to talk about amongst the beef and
Speaker 1: the shit I had going on. Then that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the next thing I want to ask about, which I
Speaker 1: already know that. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I had to make one hundred percent in fact sure
Speaker 1: that I'm so far away from my past and that
Speaker 1: lifestyle and that I've converted it over to something legal
Speaker 1: and legitimate to where I can feel comfortable to speak
Speaker 1: on my past and what I did and what I've
Speaker 1: been through and what was what's the cost that I
Speaker 1: was there because I come out of hole pussing. My
Speaker 1: mama was a hole. My mama was the game. My
Speaker 1: uncle was p sixteens. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: was born in this shit. My daddy was an athlete.
Speaker 1: It wasn't meant for me to be an athlete, but
Speaker 1: it was meant for me to be an entertainer.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My daddy was a was a football player in a
Speaker 1: wrestling Uh he wrestled, Yeah, my daddy.
Speaker 3: Like I'm a diehard wrestling Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4: Ye see, my daddy never made it to that.
Speaker 3: But still but Texas is India route to say.
Speaker 1: That's why you know how they say tim and Peace
Speaker 1: himself that the applet on fall too far from the tree.
Speaker 4: Like I'm an independent legend. I just have the Internet. Now.
Speaker 4: Did you watch the Weapon of.
Speaker 2: The movie about the Vaughan Erics, about the family of
Speaker 2: the brothers who like are all from They're all from
Speaker 2: like Dallas and Houston and they ended up for us
Speaker 2: crazy great wrestling movies about Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I never seen it. But Texas has a
Speaker 1: huge independent wrestling scene. This ship out that and my
Speaker 1: dad was like dominant in that space. He made it
Speaker 1: to the w W from the w w E. But
Speaker 1: on it's like a side person like you never was
Speaker 1: like he no, that's still, that's still. He never was
Speaker 1: no funster. He never was on the video game. He know,
Speaker 1: we never was. But you know, I'm saying, you just
Speaker 1: got to clear that ship because when you say my
Speaker 1: daddy was a wrestling mofuckers automate, think, oh.
Speaker 4: This nigga was rich's whole life. How could he come from? No?
Speaker 4: There was First of all, First of all, you where
Speaker 4: did the money come from?
Speaker 1: Honda? I got this trying to cut you off, but look,
Speaker 1: you just explain it to these people. Where does the
Speaker 1: fucking money come from? When you a wrestler. It comes
Speaker 1: from being on motherfucker Walmart with the toys on the
Speaker 1: on the stands. It comes from having t shirts, it
Speaker 1: comes from being on the video games. It comes to me,
Speaker 1: you know, w Wrestle Inia and and all of them,
Speaker 1: the chapers, letters and chairs.
Speaker 4: My daddy ain't never did none of that.
Speaker 1: Ship everybody else on to come up, y'all, never played
Speaker 1: my dad in the video game. You never went to
Speaker 1: Waldmart seeing my daddy on the shirt. You never and
Speaker 1: everybody watching this show, you all have been a wrestling
Speaker 1: fan at some point in your life. You never seen
Speaker 1: whose house Walker Dady was. My daddy ain't Booker t
Speaker 1: It ain't Mark Henry, ain't none of them niggas. My
Speaker 1: dad name is Al rays Walker. My daddy really whoop
Speaker 1: all of them niggas. But the point that I'm making
Speaker 1: is is that my daddy was inspiring wrestler. He was
Speaker 1: inspiring businessman, entrepreneur, but he did not make it till
Speaker 1: the top because motherfucker's hated on him about his difference
Speaker 1: and a lot of people stole my daddy style too.
Speaker 1: My daddy had a very unique style, is how he
Speaker 1: dressed and how he It's like some like one of
Speaker 1: the biggest wrestlers to ever live, like, stole my daddy
Speaker 1: complete image. But I'd be wanting him to tell that story,
Speaker 1: like I don't because I already going through this shit.
Speaker 4: My sevnigges. I think I'm crazy with my daddy.
Speaker 1: I really got to prof of that shit, like he
Speaker 1: got to put for videos and they was all because
Speaker 1: he had his chance, he had the time he was
Speaker 1: around that shit. But the point that I'm making is
Speaker 1: that like I grew up a special type of way,
Speaker 1: so my mind is already throwed out and fucked up.
Speaker 1: So it's like I just knew and understand, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if there's the opportunity for me to utilize the Internet,
Speaker 1: utilize video, film, photography, pictures, to stop taking the risk
Speaker 1: and the chances that I was taking to make money,
Speaker 1: the same way how I used it with my rap career,
Speaker 1: because I chose to do it the hard route, not
Speaker 1: get a record deal, not go through the major labels.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the game, if you choosing
Speaker 1: to not take the sleazy way out that a lot
Speaker 1: of six teams do, a lot of players take. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm a different level than them, because they have
Speaker 1: no fucking integrity.
Speaker 4: They would let.
Speaker 1: A woman do anything, and they would do fuck with
Speaker 1: any type of woman for some bullshit As money. I
Speaker 1: don't need a bitch to make no money. I'm the
Speaker 1: money a bitch need me. I've never needed a bitch.
Speaker 1: I've never lost a woman that I wanted to keep.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm the prize, not her.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, when you have
Speaker 1: that that that alpha male mentality, you have a certain
Speaker 1: level of principles and certain level of respect factor about yourself.
Speaker 1: That what he thinks that it's through disrespectful. He thinks
Speaker 1: it's not playing not disrespectful to begin on camera and
Speaker 1: fucking bitch on camera when nigga be and fucking holes
Speaker 1: and taking pictures with hose and fucking hose your whole life,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a regular street nigga. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's I can't even say on this microphone the things
Speaker 1: that people do in this game that I don't agree
Speaker 1: with and that I will never do and I will
Speaker 1: never be au and they and they do it front
Speaker 1: and center, you know what I'm saying. So with me
Speaker 1: understanding that fuck with somebody opinion is how they feel
Speaker 1: about getting on the only fans of doing the only fans.
Speaker 1: This is the smartest way out. This is the most strategical, smartest,
Speaker 1: safest way out. Because you can't say neither per party
Speaker 1: doing this, only fans force each other to do it.
Speaker 4: We both on camera, fucking yep. You can't say I
Speaker 4: forced to do.
Speaker 2: And only fans makes you upload all kinds of forms, and.
Speaker 1: It's everything in needed necessary to protect your safety and
Speaker 1: still make the money. Why the fuck would you not
Speaker 1: do that for sure? So therefore, you want this girl
Speaker 1: to be trashed. You want this girl to be filtered
Speaker 1: and scumming, or if you want her, you want this
Speaker 1: guy that only got twenty five hundred dollars or thirty
Speaker 1: three hundred, four hundred, two hundred dollars to be having
Speaker 1: an intimacy with this girl that you that you be.
Speaker 4: You smoke weed with this girl.
Speaker 1: You sitting cars and hang around this girl that don't
Speaker 1: make if you have the ability to to take this
Speaker 1: girl and put on pictures and posters and credit cards
Speaker 1: and motherfuckering lighter leash lighters and ship like that and
Speaker 1: make quadjupiit the amount of money that she was.
Speaker 4: Making doing this other shit.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do it just because of the opinions
Speaker 1: of some niggas because you're shiny, see, because of your pride.
Speaker 4: Because your pride. No, it'sin't even about pride.
Speaker 1: It's about the motherfucker's worried about the opinions of other niggas,
Speaker 1: other players. It's like it's like if Steph Curry ketter
Speaker 1: about the opinion of everybody else saying that he shot
Speaker 1: too many three?
Speaker 3: You shoot too many three? How the games beat it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: repeat it, repeat the game.
Speaker 4: Revent the game.
Speaker 1: It's like you mad at James Twyton for the step back,
Speaker 1: and they did they changed.
Speaker 4: That's that's and that's that's.
Speaker 1: That's despicable, that's horrible. Like, that's that's not fair, that's book.
Speaker 1: Don't be mad at somebody who has the intelligence and.
Speaker 4: To find a loophole.
Speaker 3: I read change, didn't read.
Speaker 1: Don't be mad at me because you did not read,
Speaker 1: You did not study, you did not analyze, You did
Speaker 1: not look at all of the motherfucker constentuousies of this
Speaker 1: game that we both are playing.
Speaker 4: And what are the proceeds? What are the.
Speaker 1: Pros and the consequences? What are the cons what are
Speaker 1: the pros? You didn't look at that and you didn't
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into it because you just was
Speaker 1: about making a couple of dollars and being accepted by
Speaker 1: some other niggas. I already know I'm greater than these
Speaker 1: niggas before even come and get in y'all ship. The
Speaker 1: average P, the average P and the every person of
Speaker 1: the game want to be a rapper, right, the average P,
Speaker 1: the average that the average person is in any form
Speaker 1: of the streets want to be a celebrity. The average
Speaker 1: d boy want to be a rap, or the average
Speaker 1: P want to be a rap. For the average whole
Speaker 1: want to be a model. The average like, let's be
Speaker 1: fucking real. All these people wish if they was fucking
Speaker 1: six six and coun dump and run fast and be
Speaker 1: an athlete or a football player or after the musical mind,
Speaker 1: the creativity, the willingness that I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: nature to be a YouTube personality, whatever it is. Everybody
Speaker 1: wish they had star power. If you did not wish
Speaker 1: you had star popper, why the fuck do you like stars?
Speaker 4: You? Why do you worship us?
Speaker 1: Why do you sit up at twenty four hours a
Speaker 1: day while these platforms even exist? You could be motherfucker
Speaker 1: learning about science. You could be learning about health. You
Speaker 1: could be learning platforms. Yeah, you could learning how guns wear.
Speaker 1: You be learning about the financial, financial literacy. It's all
Speaker 1: other types of shit that you could be filling your
Speaker 1: brain up with. And y'all want to fill your brain
Speaker 1: with entertainment because you want to be entertainment. You want
Speaker 1: to you want to reflect what you like. You are
Speaker 1: what you eat, You are what you wear. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: wear a shirt you are. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Same shit.
Speaker 1: I can't say what you said. You're not gonna wear leticious.
Speaker 1: Let's just say this a known evil. You can't even
Speaker 1: say that because people what search with serial killers on
Speaker 1: it and people accept.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people wearing wild Days come on like people wearing
Speaker 2: all ship.
Speaker 1: All this contradictive. But that's why I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: That's why I live in my own world, live in
Speaker 1: my own reality, in my own video game. I don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck nobody thinking about how I do it,
Speaker 1: what I do, make more money than me or do
Speaker 1: better than me, and what I do. And also I
Speaker 1: have the option to be both. Y'a don't even have
Speaker 1: the option to be both. You're forced to be a sixteen,
Speaker 1: You forced to be a three or four, You forced
Speaker 1: to be a travel for I was forced to be
Speaker 1: those at a period of time. And I got out
Speaker 1: the game the point and I'm still I beat the game,
Speaker 1: I'm still using the game. I beat the game and
Speaker 1: still playing with it the same way. Burner doing I
Speaker 1: just made the game legal and boom, I'm a genius.
Speaker 4: Don't be mad at me because you're still a food.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me how many projects you have on DSPs?
Speaker 1: Do you have myself or like as a tall together
Speaker 1: own like if I go to my own.
Speaker 3: Yours and then the TSF.
Speaker 4: Okay, So my catalog I probably have maybe like.
Speaker 1: It's between twenty seven and thirty albums or something like that,
Speaker 1: and the ten in the ten year span from the
Speaker 1: Sauce Twins to Sauce Walker, I have between twenty seven
Speaker 1: thirty albums almost and especially but by the end of
Speaker 1: this year is gonna be for sure full thirty. It
Speaker 1: might be a full thirty, and I mean it's kind
Speaker 1: of I just know for shure it's somewhere. What about
Speaker 1: just as as the collective as the label I probably own,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe uh, maybe one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty projects like albums because like all
Speaker 1: of my friends, I got fifty artists, fifty artists signed
Speaker 1: to my distribution in my record label. Ten of them
Speaker 1: are producers and they make beats and stuff and they
Speaker 1: still have in the they still have albums as well,
Speaker 1: like about this of work as well. And then I
Speaker 1: got forty some of our artists. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: over for it's a little bit over fifty three, but
Speaker 1: ten of producers and the other forty artists are like artists.
Speaker 1: And some of the artists that signed to me, people
Speaker 1: don't even know that they signed to me, or that
Speaker 1: they are autists, or that we have business with each other.
Speaker 1: But I still have in on their catalog. So if
Speaker 1: you incorporate everybody that's signed to me that have a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty split with their catalog on, I probably got
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty albums.
Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty albums.
Speaker 1: Would you say that if you look at that by songs,
Speaker 1: each album got like fifteen to twenty songs on it,
Speaker 1: So I probably own I don't know, two thousand and
Speaker 1: three thousand and four thousand songs.
Speaker 3: I have a follow up question for that, but I'm
Speaker 3: about to piss my pants.
Speaker 4: Can we can? I tell you break?
Speaker 2: It's break, I'll be back to your catalog.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, the catalog. Shit.
Speaker 2: Well, I had a question though about the catalog because
Speaker 2: you said you said we got we got the vast number.
Speaker 2: Recently you linked up with Empire, and I'm wonder were
Speaker 2: in like because obviously when you when you link with
Speaker 2: the company like Empire, it's a distribution situation, it's label services,
Speaker 2: but it's still being independent. But what was the timing
Speaker 2: for you to like make the decision to kind of
Speaker 2: link up with a guy like Ghazi and bring what
Speaker 2: you got going on in Huson and TSF together, what's
Speaker 2: going on in the Bay Area Empire.
Speaker 1: It's a fun story because guys have been trying to
Speaker 1: sign me since the beginning of my career. It was
Speaker 1: just I was doing business with people at the time
Speaker 1: who just didn't see fit for us to do business together.
Speaker 4: And at the time.
Speaker 1: I've always had control over my career, but I was
Speaker 1: trying to allow people to have management and have opinions
Speaker 1: and things of that like that, and it just it
Speaker 1: never worked out for us in the beginning. And when
Speaker 1: I finally found distribution, it was before God, I found
Speaker 1: a distribution on my own, without guys that having any
Speaker 1: or empirement anything doing a part of it. I found
Speaker 1: I found distribution in California when I was hanging with
Speaker 1: Famous Dicks. I met this guy named Wayne and I
Speaker 1: started working with Correct Music vide right, and.
Speaker 3: The guys who scraped the internet.
Speaker 1: They made me million, They made me a more of
Speaker 1: a millionaire. I can't. I can never take that from Create,
Speaker 1: like d made me a multia.
Speaker 2: I'm saying them, dudes don't have to scrape the internet
Speaker 2: for money, like money that's out there that don'tbody.
Speaker 4: Know even this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I first got would Create, just like eight
Speaker 1: years ago, and they like, you know, they fell to
Speaker 1: my whole catalog and went throughout my YouTube videos and
Speaker 1: all them, just the bodies of work that I own
Speaker 1: that I allowed them to facilitate, and they came back
Speaker 1: with like eighty rax or some shit like that.
Speaker 3: You didn't even know what was out there.
Speaker 1: For I ain't even know that was out there, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, from what you're looking at right now, you
Speaker 1: could be making somewhere between eighty two, one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a month just right now.
Speaker 4: And that was like eight years ago. So you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got would Create, I brought I brought my whole
Speaker 1: label over to Create, and I left my catalog there,
Speaker 1: like but I still have probably like a sixteen or
Speaker 1: thirteen or twelve album catalog. That's not with Create too,
Speaker 1: that's with tune Core. That was like from the very
Speaker 1: super getting at premature, premature to yourself stuff, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I got to Create, I
Speaker 1: start making nothing less than five to six figures a
Speaker 1: month for the rest of my life. From that point
Speaker 1: from seven years ago, wow, every month, every twenty fifty
Speaker 1: every month, I've been getting a six figure to seven
Speaker 1: I mean a five figure to six figure check and
Speaker 1: that could be anywhere from sixty thousand to two hundred thousand.
Speaker 4: I've never gotten no more.
Speaker 1: Than two hundred thousand so far, Like crazy, My goal
Speaker 1: is to get like a quarter million a month. So
Speaker 1: every point I'm making them, yeah, independent, it's just off
Speaker 1: YouTube videos and songs is on the shit. So like
Speaker 1: if someone uses your song on a YouTube vide pay
Speaker 1: and to use my name right if you use my
Speaker 1: artist's name, if you drop a video right now you
Speaker 1: put payso name in it, I'm getting paid off of
Speaker 1: it pays.
Speaker 4: So getting paid off of it, that's just period.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a nil deal name likeness
Speaker 1: and it's the same ship anything that's associated with my name,
Speaker 1: even in YouTube.
Speaker 4: Even in the Instagram videos.
Speaker 1: Like when I go vi all on Instagram and then
Speaker 1: then go over to YouTube, I get paid for it
Speaker 1: and create just you know what I'm saying, they open
Speaker 1: that door to like just really make me my record
Speaker 1: AB with me and my friends an actual company, an
Speaker 1: actual business to every single of my friends and associates
Speaker 1: and counterparts on my record AB. But I'll get a
Speaker 1: check on the twenty fifth every month, Like well, domn
Speaker 1: gotta call me or ask me or we don't argue
Speaker 1: about like of course, we still got to do business.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, filter shit out of
Speaker 1: consolidate shit, make it smaller, or like do audits on
Speaker 1: our shop just to make sure everything correct. But like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, all of my friends, if
Speaker 1: you dropping music and you're shooting videos, then you making money.
Speaker 1: We all getting checked. You don't have to do a
Speaker 1: concert to get paid. You don't don't have to perform
Speaker 1: or do a feature or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You don't have to be on these festivals to get paid.
Speaker 1: You getting paid ten bands if my eight bands, if
Speaker 1: it's my twelve thirteen, fourteen thousand a month. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like some of my lowest tier artists
Speaker 1: getting six thousand a month.
Speaker 4: Crazy, You know what, I'm saying this on some cool.
Speaker 3: Shit that's so obviously create was great for you, That
Speaker 3: was great.
Speaker 1: So when now when you talk about the Empire shit,
Speaker 1: it only made sense for me to sign a deal
Speaker 1: of any sort with any company. That was only only
Speaker 1: if they was going to allow me to not bring
Speaker 1: my catalog with.
Speaker 2: Me because most companies, so you got a catalog like you,
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, we're gonna need to bring that catalog.
Speaker 1: Period if you want some millions of dollars from us,
Speaker 1: if you want us to do business.
Speaker 2: Because if whatever we do together don't work, the catalog
Speaker 2: is still going to bringing that bread we're gonna recoup
Speaker 2: long term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't go in for that because that's not
Speaker 1: to me. That's not fair business and music when you.
Speaker 3: Probably had nothing to do with what I did back then.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but y'all want to eat and.
Speaker 1: I was with you, if I want a motherfucking NCAA
Speaker 1: championship with UCLA, they had nothing to do with before
Speaker 1: I came to the Raptors. And then if when I
Speaker 1: played for the Raptors, I went to the playoffs with them.
Speaker 1: This many years, I sold this many jerseys, we won
Speaker 1: one championship.
Speaker 3: Got you to do I get traded the Blazers.
Speaker 4: Has nothing to do with me going to the Blazers.
Speaker 1: Brother, y'all shouldn't own what I've done at the Raptors
Speaker 1: and what I did that you you u c la
Speaker 1: just for me to play for the the what you
Speaker 1: said the team you said Blazer Blazers.
Speaker 4: Me to play for the Blazers. That don't make sense
Speaker 4: done so.
Speaker 1: In reality, Empire was the only It was a few
Speaker 1: of them that Connor respected it with Empire like guys
Speaker 1: that he actually respected my business mind, he respected my
Speaker 1: business module and he he he respected the numbers that
Speaker 1: I'm able to pull up put up on my own
Speaker 1: without a company, without resources, without an engine, without a machine,
Speaker 1: without the being serviced correctly, I'm still creating. I'm generating
Speaker 1: six figures of income every month with your annually on
Speaker 1: my own. So much is annually I'm generating millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: I'm annually every toil much, I'm generating millions of dollars
Speaker 1: and then not a small one, like a nice amount.
Speaker 1: So if I can do that for myself without having
Speaker 1: all of these weapons that y'all have at Bay, would
Speaker 1: I why would me and you just not to build
Speaker 1: a new neighborhood together. Why don't we just build a
Speaker 1: new catalog together. Because I'm willing to give you that work.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give you five ten, seven, eight nine albums.
Speaker 1: If you willing to pay for these albums and put
Speaker 1: me in a position in and give them the label
Speaker 1: services and the opportunities that they need to work and
Speaker 1: the attention that they needed to thrive, then I can
Speaker 1: do the same catalog I've created for myself. I can
Speaker 1: create that for you. I'm only I signed to the
Speaker 1: Empire a year ago. So I was like, I was
Speaker 1: just turning thirty three, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: was thirty two turning thirty three, and now I'm thirty
Speaker 1: three turning.
Speaker 4: Thirty four right now.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm still at a great position in
Speaker 1: my career. I'm in my prime. I'm young, I'm stilling,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Some of my best biggest
Speaker 1: artists had their biggest hits from Jiji, The Charge, The
Speaker 1: dogph Ross, Lwayne, This is this is they golden eras
Speaker 1: in their thirties. You know what I'm saying, they the
Speaker 1: initial stage of the of their careers in their twenties.
Speaker 1: But most of those guys really career started at late twenties,
Speaker 1: really thirties to be real. Now we're living in a
Speaker 1: new generation where it ever starts in their teens in
Speaker 1: they twenties and shit like that, right, but.
Speaker 2: Not for sure, not, I just think I just thought
Speaker 2: it was interesting. So I was like, yo, like, if
Speaker 2: you're an independent juggernaut, Gouds, he's an independent juggernaut, and
Speaker 2: I'm a.
Speaker 4: Small empire kind of like I'm nowhere near with empire.
Speaker 3: Right, But but TSF is a very small.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a small indie major.
Speaker 1: Like well, I got a staff, a back office, I
Speaker 1: got two commercial places of business, two compounds where my
Speaker 1: company is ran and facilitated. And you know, guys, it
Speaker 1: was just the only person who was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I see what you got going on.
Speaker 4: I respect it, and I'm willing to fund it.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give you more and more finances, more weapons,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to own your catalog. If you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable at one place at a period of time
Speaker 1: where you're willing for me to give you x y
Speaker 1: Z man the millions of dollars for your catalog to
Speaker 1: bring it over here, that we can do that. But
Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, like really made it clear
Speaker 1: with him. I just don't want to sell my cattle.
Speaker 1: I just want to live off of Well, that's something
Speaker 1: I can go to getting whatever, going to life.
Speaker 4: I can live out there forever. I think.
Speaker 2: I tell people, it's like, obviously, depending on what that
Speaker 2: catalog number is, certain people been getting like twelve x
Speaker 2: what their catalogs worth. I ain't mad at it if
Speaker 2: it's like, yo, two hundred million dollars, you know that's crazy.
Speaker 4: But still like for me.
Speaker 2: It's like but but like you said, it's like it's
Speaker 2: like that long money.
Speaker 4: It's like, we're humans, bro. People go through shit.
Speaker 1: We get in trouble, we go to jail, we wrecked cars,
Speaker 1: family get sick, family, Mamaee called Mamanee house, auntie, little cousin,
Speaker 1: just graduated. Business ideas, opportunity, spending, habits, having fun, drugs,
Speaker 1: just whatever you like to do. Investing all of this
Speaker 1: shit takes away from finance. It takes away from your
Speaker 1: liquor cash, It takes away from your capital. Having a
Speaker 1: catalog that you are in the green and you don't
Speaker 1: owe anybody recruitment. That's like you own a Chick fil
Speaker 1: A two three four Chick fil Ais or you own
Speaker 1: some Walmart. So soon hard dealerships to something after all
Speaker 1: the bills is paid your And this is the thing
Speaker 1: with the music shit too. It feels like it's all
Speaker 1: profit because you Ben did the work. I Ben did
Speaker 1: the music. I been shot those videos, I been did
Speaker 1: the mixing, the master I've been released these projects that shit,
Speaker 1: been paid for it, but I'm still getting paid for
Speaker 1: it right now.
Speaker 4: It's like owning the movie company. It's it's a huge difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't have to famous TV show goes
Speaker 3: into syndication. You're gonna get us.
Speaker 1: Syndicated your risk forever. Whoever the fuck owns Fresh Prince
Speaker 1: of Bell Level Martin any of these type of shows
Speaker 1: will smith. We don't know if they did the correct
Speaker 1: business where they have a grandfather clause where they still
Speaker 1: getting paid. But those properties are still making brand new
Speaker 1: money in twenty twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, the
Speaker 1: same way it was making the ninety five, if not more.
Speaker 1: Because syndication didn't exist, you couldn't have the same property exists.
Speaker 1: And what you have to realize is that the Hulu
Speaker 1: is his own universe.
Speaker 4: Instagram is his own universe.
Speaker 1: It's people that use tiktoks that don't use instagrams, wother
Speaker 1: use face the same thing as people that I like
Speaker 1: Amazon prompt I don't like Hulu. These are all different universes.
Speaker 1: It's to the Boys, great show, right. I love the Boys,
Speaker 1: homelanders Homelander. He's crazy and the fast dude. Homelander is
Speaker 1: a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: The greatest greatest villain ever. Like, he's up there.
Speaker 1: I think Omni Man got him, Omni Man from I
Speaker 1: think Omni Man got him.
Speaker 4: But I like, I definitely like Homelander.
Speaker 3: But Prime got the two Villains zone.
Speaker 4: You ain't lying, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you got people who are like I like what
Speaker 1: I like and I just want to watch this talk
Speaker 1: about wrestling when w W was WWF.
Speaker 4: You have people.
Speaker 1: That exactly exactly. So if you have the blessing type
Speaker 1: of property that's a streaming property means that it makes
Speaker 1: an infinite amount of money. You never have to resupply
Speaker 1: it with water. You have to resupply these water bottles, food.
Speaker 1: You have to resupply agriculture with a streaming property. Once
Speaker 1: it's there, it's making the same money as water, food, oil,
Speaker 1: and gas. But you don't have to rep we don't
Speaker 1: have to replenish it.
Speaker 4: It's just there. It's streaming.
Speaker 1: So if you have something that does well there, you're
Speaker 1: making money there forever, no matter what you're doing. That's
Speaker 1: why we're doing this right here, because once you upload
Speaker 1: it and you put it out there, over there forever forever.
Speaker 1: So when you own your catalog, you own your music,
Speaker 1: you are in that space. You're in that spectrum of
Speaker 1: people who live a lifestyle of like a person that's
Speaker 1: won the lottery or something and you chose to do
Speaker 1: it cash.
Speaker 3: Out, but you get that that bread every month.
Speaker 4: Got a fat ass check.
Speaker 1: So that means I can never go bro I mean
Speaker 1: I could whatever amount of money that you get, let's
Speaker 1: just say you get three hundred thousand dollars a month
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, you can spend the
Speaker 1: entire three hundred thousand dollars down another three that's impt
Speaker 1: like that doesn't that's crazy, it's crazy, but that's what
Speaker 1: owning your catalog as an independent artist is like, if
Speaker 1: you're successful, for sure, you're getting a guaranteed ninety thousande
Speaker 1: twenty one fifty one forty one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand guaranteed every month. I can flush a hundred TI
Speaker 1: And this has nothing to do with all the extra
Speaker 1: money I make. And I'm getting two hundred eighty one
Speaker 1: ninety But this I had nothing to do when I'm
Speaker 1: going to get twenty thousand out of here for this song,
Speaker 1: this show, I'm getting eight thousand for this post. I'm
Speaker 1: getting ten thousand away these clothes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it's like it's like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: the streaming is one thing, but if you think you're
Speaker 3: just gonna drop one album, like.
Speaker 2: You got the numbers, so you got the catalog to
Speaker 2: where it all makes sense.
Speaker 3: But like you gotta you have.
Speaker 4: To use the mute compound interest. You have to put
Speaker 4: the work.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to, and you have to once you
Speaker 2: put the work in, you also have to understand you
Speaker 2: have to use the music as a vehicle for monetization
Speaker 2: on all of the fronts because you're really selling a brand,
Speaker 2: You're not selling your music.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because I feel like early on you,
Speaker 2: at least from a fans perspective, I feel like somebody
Speaker 2: who's not from Texas, someone who wasn't like all the
Speaker 2: way plugged in with what you were doing. I feel
Speaker 2: like when you would pop up on my algorithm, it
Speaker 2: would be usually for negative stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it used to be used to be that would
Speaker 1: like be my thriving forces controverrass.
Speaker 3: And it was always controversy.
Speaker 2: I wasn't an initiating but I was gonna say, do
Speaker 2: you feel like there was a negative aura when your
Speaker 2: name would get brought up that you you had to
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 1: Absolutely without a shot of a doubt. I am the
Speaker 1: guy that beat the black ball. I'm the black nigga
Speaker 1: that came out balling.
Speaker 3: I mean, shit, that's a bar.
Speaker 1: They threw the black ball at me and I came
Speaker 1: out blackballing.
Speaker 3: Would you said, the industry trying to blackball you.
Speaker 4: Whoever threw the ball it missed?
Speaker 1: It was an actual thing though, whoever threw the ball
Speaker 1: and it missed, That's all I'm saying. And but that
Speaker 1: comes through having catlike legility, matrix like reflexes, and extremuous
Speaker 1: work at any missive amount of talent and understanding the
Speaker 1: splematics of what I'm going against, the strategy, the game
Speaker 1: plan had making the money buying the calls.
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, I understood.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like, I think back to you
Speaker 2: doing the BT site for two years ago. That's about
Speaker 2: two years all right.
Speaker 4: I think so at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was like the first time I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: ship like coming.
Speaker 3: The powers that be are finally And the crazy part
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: Was and that was before Empire too.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was the funny part about that, and not
Speaker 3: to laugh at anybody situation, but the fact that BT
Speaker 3: did not come on have the wherewithal to know that
Speaker 3: they put you on that they knew what they was doing,
Speaker 3: that they put you on that beat.
Speaker 4: Nah, hell no, I'm finna clear the era. No, they
Speaker 4: knew what they was doing.
Speaker 1: When I first got the it was it was it
Speaker 1: was young Thugs hot listen brother. When I first got
Speaker 1: the email, they sent us a Biggie Smalls beat. Everybody
Speaker 1: was supposed to be on a Biggie Smalls beat. But
Speaker 1: I never confirmed that I was going to do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you know they was
Speaker 1: they was they was doing right by all. I said
Speaker 1: like this, I don't know if I can say this point,
Speaker 1: but basically, they they gave blessings to all the artists
Speaker 1: that was a part of the freestyles, right, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like the last I was the
Speaker 1: absolute last person that they added on. But they they
Speaker 1: was really pushing for me to be on there the
Speaker 1: whole time. But they know how to contact me. So
Speaker 1: when they finally got into contact with me, they already
Speaker 1: had a particular blessing that I there couldn't disagree with,
Speaker 1: and they was like really pressing for me to get
Speaker 1: on it because they heard the ghetto.
Speaker 4: Goys for freestyle stuff.
Speaker 1: I've been doing it, Like, man, this would be a
Speaker 1: good thing for you to do, and we know you
Speaker 1: do good on New York Beat. So we got this
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls beat, so that we're gonna we give you.
Speaker 1: I give you a couple days of pressice I think
Speaker 1: like a week a week ahead of the time they have.
Speaker 1: I gave the pressures, but they've been trying to contact me.
Speaker 1: When I sent signed the contract and everything was solidified,
Speaker 1: and I sent them the contract bait and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Next day, they sent the pushing P beat.
Speaker 3: He was pushing P That's what it was.
Speaker 1: The next day, Yeah, when I like, we had been
Speaker 1: talking about this the whole time, and then sent the
Speaker 1: Biggie beat. And you have to understand this, it's five
Speaker 1: at this of course, the decapitation, mutilation, decampitation. But they
Speaker 1: made all thirty of those artists that went freestyle that
Speaker 1: year get on that one beat just for me.
Speaker 4: Just to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well, I was gonna say, like, uh, you
Speaker 2: know you you had a very huge feud with those
Speaker 2: guys for some years now.
Speaker 4: I don always not bad on none of these guys.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it feels like you're obviously very
Speaker 2: much I'm too rich, bro.
Speaker 3: You know we kind of discussed earlier. You have a
Speaker 3: lot to lose and.
Speaker 4: Disappointment about it.
Speaker 1: It's just like I made it, bro Like, And at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I stood ten tolls on
Speaker 1: every situation I ever been in. Ain't nobody ever played
Speaker 1: at me, Ain't nobody ever shot at me, Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: ever did nothing to me in this music industry that
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The questions my character me
Speaker 1: ain't nobody. I stood ten tolls. Anytime any rawbread attempts,
Speaker 1: anything ever of any sort, I come out on top
Speaker 1: and I don't even have I don't even have them
Speaker 1: type of situations happened to me. It be about other
Speaker 1: people I'm around. The point blame, period, is that I
Speaker 1: stood behind my legacy. I stood behind my respect. I
Speaker 1: stood behind my work at it and everything that I
Speaker 1: achieved than obtaining this game.
Speaker 4: I did everything I could, blood sweating tis to keep that.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to the end result fact that
Speaker 1: like where we are now, it's a thing of people
Speaker 1: just under in respect the fact of what I've been
Speaker 1: able to accomplish the way I did it. They know
Speaker 1: I took the long while. They know I didn't take
Speaker 1: no short cause they know.
Speaker 3: People were taking credit for shit that you did, words that.
Speaker 1: You come on. They know people stole my style, they
Speaker 1: know people stole my image. I used to fight and
Speaker 1: argue over that shit, but it's like now it's to
Speaker 1: the point where I've done enough accomplishments. My accomplishments are different.
Speaker 1: My accomplished is are not these platinum pleques on the wild.
Speaker 1: My accomplishments are not the awards and shit like that
Speaker 1: are being on the choice that people like you know
Speaker 1: use on the stats margin to compare the two. My
Speaker 1: my status is being a multi mean and independent owning state,
Speaker 1: owning my catalog, on having fifteen all this, I mean
Speaker 1: fifty all the time of my shit, fifteen quarter million
Speaker 1: dollar calls and up, the accumulating the biggest level features
Speaker 1: that the rap industry has, the artist accumulating the biggest
Speaker 1: co signs that the rap game have, the artist independently
Speaker 1: being on major platforms, major major features, as myself is
Speaker 1: like the BT Awards, the No Jump whatever, just whatever
Speaker 1: I do, just in like the biggest period. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the Billboard Awards, all the shit that
Speaker 1: I've done in life doing this independently, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Accumulating over a billion streams is a multitude independently.
Speaker 4: It's crazy people respect me for that, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying and being.
Speaker 1: Then you gotta think how many rappers they came out
Speaker 1: in twenty and fourteen, twenty and thirteen that if they
Speaker 1: call and they got platinum records, if they called you
Speaker 1: right now ask for an interview, you wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Be interested in doing it. Depends on who it is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe right, but I'm saying I love that
Speaker 1: era of music. But right, but you're right. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if if the longevity, if the click value is not there,
Speaker 1: you're just doing it for a nostalgic just for the
Speaker 1: nostalgia the section. I appreciated you a period of time
Speaker 1: as artists, and I want to be on my shoulder
Speaker 1: to to to dissect your brain, to ask you some
Speaker 1: questions that I personally want to know that I feel
Speaker 1: that if youwers want to know. But as far as
Speaker 1: my minium algorithm and engagement to your views, you're gonna
Speaker 1: pick artists who it makes sense, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And a lot of artists because some of them it
Speaker 1: was because of their music, but a lot of them
Speaker 1: is because they may pour business business decisions early on
Speaker 1: in their career. They're not able to make a second breath,
Speaker 1: like they say in sports, I got my second breath.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know the one guy I always think
Speaker 2: about it, I was like rich Homi Kwan. He got
Speaker 2: in that fucked up record deal. He couldn't drop music
Speaker 2: for all those years, and then it was like by
Speaker 2: the you know, he was one of the ones, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, but the artists so a lot
Speaker 2: of your beat, Like I wonder like you kind of
Speaker 2: seeing what someone like Thug is going through because you
Speaker 2: guys had a very serious slime.
Speaker 1: Even though I don't fuck with slime and I don't
Speaker 1: fuck with the mentality of slim shit, but free young Thug.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to say I don't like slim.
Speaker 4: I'm splack.
Speaker 1: I don't like the mentality of and behavior of back
Speaker 1: doing your friends, back doing your potner, because that's really
Speaker 1: what slim means, the slimy behavior slam somebody out, that's
Speaker 1: just the fuck out of bullshit.
Speaker 4: Like we we real niggas, we were men, and us
Speaker 4: as leaders, we play a.
Speaker 1: Duty and a responsibility as influencers to what the people
Speaker 1: that look up to us think it's cool and think
Speaker 1: it's respectable or think it's honorable in the in whatever
Speaker 1: society that you want to look at it, whether it's
Speaker 1: just normal human beings of men, or whether it's the streets,
Speaker 1: whether it's the hood, whatever, I don't fuck with the
Speaker 1: slim ship and look and just so happens, Young Thud
Speaker 1: got slimmed out by some of his own friends in.
Speaker 4: The courtroom crazy because artists own.
Speaker 1: Artists, people that you change their lives, people that you
Speaker 1: you you you made money for them and their families,
Speaker 1: and they don't have the dignity and the integrity to
Speaker 1: stand in the courtroom and and stay solid on whatever
Speaker 1: y'all caught. Codes and mores is for all of y'all's freedom,
Speaker 1: and if all I have to lose your freedom together
Speaker 1: to keep that, you know what I'm saying at Bay
Speaker 1: and then come out and do it again like baby
Speaker 1: somebody and his friends or whoever. And that's that's what comes.
Speaker 1: That's what comes with that lifestyle. That's what comes with
Speaker 1: the choices that we make. That's what comes with the
Speaker 1: brotherhood and the solitude.
Speaker 4: Of any uh.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you call it, but a
Speaker 1: league of men. It doesn't matter if you're the alpha
Speaker 1: five brotherhoods, a brotherhood, a coalition, a business. We have rules,
Speaker 1: we have we have a belief system, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So to me, I feel like the slime mentality.
Speaker 1: It's basically just boils down to me over everybody. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'll do whatever, I'll do anything,
Speaker 1: backstabbing and within my power to make sure that I
Speaker 1: come out on top of whoever I think is weak
Speaker 1: of honorable. And I think some of the most week
Speaker 1: as people are the people that pray on the week
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what the slanneship really mean. But
Speaker 1: just as a as a person and as all that,
Speaker 1: like why man now life, Like none of these rappers
Speaker 1: ever did nothing to me. I never gonna allow nobody
Speaker 1: to do nothing to me. I move or something type
Speaker 1: of way.
Speaker 3: You don't see anybody incarcerated.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, what I'm saying
Speaker 4: so sad.
Speaker 3: It's sad to see like damn everybody. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like the most famous ones, the one who ain't
Speaker 2: who ain't saying ship.
Speaker 4: You know, and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's about structuring order amongst the brotherhood that you have.
Speaker 1: If y'all don't, if you don't have discipline, order amongst
Speaker 1: your brotherhood, and everybody just we all getting money or
Speaker 1: we all we all rying for each other, but.
Speaker 4: You gotta.
Speaker 1: Well, when she gets real, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it. She always get real,
Speaker 1: even when it's going well always you always have signs.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't lead with an iron fist correcting
Speaker 1: these signs. Y'all not fighting each other, y'all not addressing
Speaker 1: issues when something got stolen and y'all not addressing it.
Speaker 4: Rumors that you heard, we heard you said this and
Speaker 4: this and that.
Speaker 1: So now we're fin to hold a meeting and everybody, Finn,
Speaker 1: come circle up, and we're fin the whole court for
Speaker 1: what we heard you did was wrong when you put
Speaker 1: a little talking to this girl or whatever. And then
Speaker 1: if whatever we feel this is wrong, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a disciplined action behind that.
Speaker 4: As brothers.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna hurt you like you're not finna take
Speaker 1: your life, but none of that. But it's gonna be
Speaker 1: some disciplined action amongst us as men. Just like with
Speaker 1: a job, you get, you get fired, you get viol
Speaker 1: you get a violation, you get administrative leave, you get
Speaker 1: a dock on your pay. It's a penalty for fucking up.
Speaker 1: So it's the same thing amongst us as men and
Speaker 1: the League of Gentlemen. Thereir penalties for sucking up. And
Speaker 1: if you don't execute and stand on all those principles
Speaker 1: when things get real and they get shaky, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of people with shaky legs on
Speaker 1: you that's gonna turn on you no matter how many
Speaker 1: times you feed their child. I mean, how many times
Speaker 1: you gave their mama cars in medicine, gave them a career,
Speaker 1: gave them a career. And that's that's fucking disgusting, just
Speaker 1: being honest. If because how they say no man owes
Speaker 1: another man anything initially, and that also plays for the
Speaker 1: man who's who is the leader in that circle, young thug,
Speaker 1: then owe them people nothing. I don't owe you a
Speaker 1: rap career. I don't owe you a song. I don't
Speaker 1: owe you a feature. I don't owe you jurry money
Speaker 1: called free clodes from a lot of people that want
Speaker 1: to They want to give me this stuff. They don't
Speaker 1: want to give it to you. They want to give
Speaker 1: this stuff to me for what I'm doing, how hard
Speaker 1: I'm working. I'm choosing to share this with you. I'm
Speaker 1: choosing to give it to you because I genuinely fuck
Speaker 1: with you. I like you, I want you around me. Then,
Speaker 1: when it comes to whatever goes on as far as
Speaker 1: protecting each other, protecting each other lives, that's what comes
Speaker 1: to being a soldier in the warrior, That's what comes
Speaker 1: to being a human. If any sort of success, you
Speaker 1: got to get security.
Speaker 4: You have to protect yourself.
Speaker 1: You have to think of enemies people who want to
Speaker 1: That's animal nature and a jungle.
Speaker 4: People hunt each other.
Speaker 1: Animals hunt each other to be the most dominant dominant
Speaker 1: animal in the safari. So that should not be a
Speaker 1: castigu to see or a point or reason for a
Speaker 1: person and feel like, well, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Switch on you when it gets real or we get.
Speaker 1: In trouble, because I felt like I was doing this
Speaker 1: and this and that for you in the streets were
Speaker 1: all doing We all taking sacrifices and chances for each other.
Speaker 4: All are taking chances for each other.
Speaker 2: And it's and at the end of the day, with
Speaker 2: that situation, obviously a big music in the price you know,
Speaker 2: it's like huge, Yes, it's like what I made.
Speaker 4: Everybody a millionaire music.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a huge deal fu having the catalog and
Speaker 1: doing what they did it. They did it that way. See,
Speaker 1: this is one thing about me. I'm a realist. I
Speaker 1: never hate. I'm not no hater, bro, I'm real like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm me, I'm gonna be a god rich superstar,
Speaker 1: and as long as I'm on this earth, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be Himan. Even after my life, I'm gonna be him.
Speaker 1: And I don't planning on going nowhere, no time soon.
Speaker 1: So I'm very happy with where I'm at. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, people always comparing contrast what
Speaker 1: I do or what other people do that either stole
Speaker 1: me a stall my style or like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, fun of me. All people that I get
Speaker 1: into it with and they success, and my sister what
Speaker 1: they crew and they and guess what we all meanings.
Speaker 1: We all medicines and says, and we all have been
Speaker 1: through things where we're getting in trouble. We gotta go
Speaker 1: through shit. But my people, we solid you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We love each other a different type of love.
Speaker 1: It's not just for the cameras. It's not for the
Speaker 1: famous not to be saying words that we are we
Speaker 1: are we are we are Splash, we are Sauces, we
Speaker 1: are Slam. Now, this ship really means something to us
Speaker 1: and our heart and our soul. To be able to
Speaker 1: be a representation of this, to to have this on
Speaker 1: your skin, to be of this cloth, like there's something
Speaker 1: that it's a different honor and a different code in
Speaker 1: the streets that if you really are that, you would
Speaker 1: never want to tournish that, no matter what the other
Speaker 1: person done. You would never want to tornish your name
Speaker 1: and your legacy. You would never want to put smut
Speaker 1: on your name. You want to be an honorable man
Speaker 1: and this shit forever bro so for people to be
Speaker 1: with and to risk that and the relationship with with
Speaker 1: somebody like young thug who changed all that life, I
Speaker 1: feel empathy for him, you know what I'm saying regardss
Speaker 1: of whatever I had personally with him as a man.
Speaker 1: I don't wish jail on my worst enemy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, somebody who's my superdue worst enemy, Like
Speaker 1: he's never been my worst enemy.
Speaker 4: That's on raph.
Speaker 1: I never did an enemy, you know what I'm saying, physically,
Speaker 1: somebody who's my worst enemy or real life. I wish
Speaker 1: for you not to be on earth. I don't wish
Speaker 1: for you to be in jail, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that's fair talk to me about Well, First of all,
Speaker 2: I just want to give you props because your la
Speaker 2: Leakers freestyle thank You was h incredible and it was
Speaker 2: just filled with so much game. You packed so much
Speaker 2: punch into that dog. That shit was crazy. I feel
Speaker 2: like recently, finally, because like you said, you were dropping
Speaker 2: those freestyles, I kind of caught the attention to B
Speaker 2: T and shit. But I feel like over the last
Speaker 2: like twenty four months or so, people have finally started
Speaker 2: to give your flowers and respect in terms of like
Speaker 2: your talent as a real top tier MC. Obviously you
Speaker 2: torn on the road with Griselda and Conway and those
Speaker 2: guys those I mean that Dan, just Damne. Your shit
Speaker 2: is fucking crazy. Do you feel like finally you're starting
Speaker 2: to get your flowers when it comes to just the
Speaker 2: tear of mcu are because you obviously care a lot
Speaker 2: about the craft of rapping, not just what it.
Speaker 4: Can bring you.
Speaker 1: Again, I hate to keep regurd just hating and saying
Speaker 1: the same shit like I'm just cut from a different cloth,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a nineties baby. I was born nineteen ninety,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. June nineteen ninety, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I grew up in an era,
Speaker 1: a tender era of hip hop where has style and
Speaker 1: flavor and individuality, and you know what I'm saying, more
Speaker 1: simple styles of music, but there were still captivating to
Speaker 1: the ear, to the audience. Starts to emerge, but lyricism
Speaker 1: is still important. Yes, lyricism is still still dominant my
Speaker 1: entire time of falling in love with hip hop and
Speaker 1: the way hip hop was given to me, even though
Speaker 1: I was giving hip hop through DJ Screw and slow
Speaker 1: the music and ship like that, which again is I
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's not punchlines driven, because it is.
Speaker 1: It's a huge amount of punch lines in our free
Speaker 1: style rap culture. But it's that's It's just not the
Speaker 1: main point. It's not the I feel like kind of
Speaker 1: like the real.
Speaker 3: Like if you're digging into out like it was really bun.
Speaker 1: Big Yeah, like bun Bee Chamellionaireire know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: uh Ki Ki has some punchlines to poll while two
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, comeaning up punchlineord.
Speaker 4: But again, like I said.
Speaker 1: In the Houston music lineage, like even within the Screw culture,
Speaker 1: it's like different breakords and different tiers of how we
Speaker 1: segregate them.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, how we look at them,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So where you to be honest, when you hear a
Speaker 1: huge amount of the lyrical structure and the lyrical capability
Speaker 1: that comes from tastes, It's in the pain music, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, From the likes of the Zeros,
Speaker 1: the Jade Doll, bun Bees, guard Face, pim SPM, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that, that's another huge
Speaker 1: part of Houston culture. And like I'm like the I'm
Speaker 1: like the Prodigy and the the mutant baby of all
Speaker 1: of that shit. Like I'm the best version of everything
Speaker 1: Houston was good at.
Speaker 4: I'm the best version of it.
Speaker 1: I'm my best lyricist without a question, and like the
Speaker 1: world been through that.
Speaker 4: But it was a combination.
Speaker 1: Of me overcoming the black ball and then also me
Speaker 1: being arrogant.
Speaker 4: You know, I was young. I was arrogant a lot
Speaker 4: of shit.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it, Like I was still
Speaker 1: in the streets a lot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So a lot of publications I didn't want to come
Speaker 1: do with the interviews or I didn't want to do
Speaker 1: the free I said there earlier.
Speaker 4: A lot of shit. Sometimes I feel like I might
Speaker 4: talk too much.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to, you know what I'm saying, Younger,
Speaker 1: I ain't want to do some of the publications that
Speaker 1: I could have done the freestyles though I've been one
Speaker 1: through do a lot of the freestyles that I do now,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't have the same resources and that
Speaker 1: come that came over time, but people giving me my
Speaker 1: respect from getting it through other ways.
Speaker 4: So that's why I agree with you with a met percent.
Speaker 4: Like the reachs that.
Speaker 1: I have now with the higher platforms, it's not no.
Speaker 1: It's no platform in the world who not only doesn't
Speaker 1: know me but doesn't want to work with me now,
Speaker 1: and I have to.
Speaker 4: Go along route around viral and working hard to do that.
Speaker 1: But from a lyrical standpoint, like just be just me
Speaker 1: being honest with myself and the fans like just no
Speaker 1: Bush And you can go through my discography and see
Speaker 1: this shit. You can go through my my Sorry for
Speaker 1: the Sauce mixtapes that I was did. Sorry for the
Speaker 1: Sauce one, two, and three. I think I think I
Speaker 1: think I did three of them. It's time to do
Speaker 1: four now, so you have there. I'm one of the
Speaker 1: best rappers to ever come ever Pier.
Speaker 2: There was like whispers, I feel like, because you know,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty tight with a lot of the Griselda guys.
Speaker 2: Was there ever like a discussion of you doing an
Speaker 2: album with Griselda?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really was a few albums with Moselda, like and we
Speaker 1: still work together to this day.
Speaker 3: Because you on all Darringer beats for an album.
Speaker 4: No, I have, No, that's my album I have. You
Speaker 4: know that's coming out this year. That's happening. That's happened.
Speaker 4: That's happening.
Speaker 1: And I thought you saying like you're just blacking out
Speaker 1: on all every song, every song, and then it's all
Speaker 1: crazy about it is the album. It is two years old,
Speaker 1: like I did the album two years two years ago.
Speaker 4: This shop is supposed to been come out, and just going.
Speaker 1: Through all the process to release it because it's a sample,
Speaker 1: it's a sample.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's so crazy. I been did that ship.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, even when that album dropping,
Speaker 1: everybody going crazy of it, like it's still not gonna
Speaker 1: even reflect the lyrical capability that I have still, but
Speaker 1: it's great album and it's gonna do great. But I'm
Speaker 1: I just get better every day and I've been this
Speaker 1: good too, Like I've been rapping like ghetto gospel and
Speaker 1: punchlines like this. I'm a batter rapper, like I come
Speaker 1: from that. I come from batter rapping and freestyling, and
Speaker 1: like I stopped. I recorded my first song in the
Speaker 1: student Yeah, when I was six years old, nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: That's the first time I stood in the studio and
Speaker 1: in front of what like is with a headphone and
Speaker 1: a real booth, like I'm a feno.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So crazy because that freestyle you dropped, I just was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: so many people are finding out about Sauce for the
Speaker 2: first time off this freestyle. I love it though, And
Speaker 2: it's so crazy because you get like, there's a few
Speaker 2: freestyles that have come out of the last like four
Speaker 2: or five years that I felt like, like, Yo, if
Speaker 2: you just listen to that freestyle, you could really kind
Speaker 2: of like applicate somebody of your bars, to your life,
Speaker 2: to your person, man.
Speaker 4: And that's the type of rapper that I am. Like
Speaker 4: other type of artists.
Speaker 1: You could close your eyes and listen to my lyrics
Speaker 1: and you could see every single thing that I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like the most vivid narrarator to a book to a novel, Like,
Speaker 1: that's just the type of artist that I am, even
Speaker 1: in my fun music and my grip music and like
Speaker 1: the exciting shit. And that's I think that's been also
Speaker 1: one of the like the determining factors that people necessary
Speaker 1: they respected me as a lyricist as well as that
Speaker 1: I'm so versatile.
Speaker 4: So versatile, you can do anything, do anything.
Speaker 1: I do rep any style, any be any language, any BPM,
Speaker 1: Like it is nothing that I cannot do on the
Speaker 1: court as far as being an artist singing rap hormonized,
Speaker 1: It's nothing that.
Speaker 4: I can't do well, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: it's like.
Speaker 1: That's another thing that kind of take away from people
Speaker 1: just straight looking at me as a lyricist, because it's
Speaker 1: something you might you might catch the singing saucewalker on
Speaker 1: accident first. You might catch the dripping and the pippin
Speaker 1: saucewalker first. You might catch the street gang banging saucewalker first,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the slide music then, or
Speaker 1: you might catch the financial literacy and the mental wealth
Speaker 1: and wellness and ghetto gospel. Like it's so many different
Speaker 1: right angles that I mastered.
Speaker 2: Can you break down something you said in your freestyle
Speaker 2: that I've been seeing a lot of people talk about
Speaker 2: recently is how business lines of credit work. We're talking
Speaker 2: about you said, financial literacy. Give me the game on
Speaker 2: if you have an LLC, if you haven't corporation, how
Speaker 2: can you leverage a business line of credit?
Speaker 3: And what is that and how.
Speaker 2: Have you been able to kind of because I've seen
Speaker 2: a lot of people talking about that.
Speaker 4: It's like something that they're doing, like.
Speaker 3: Well, because it's not yours, because you say and you say.
Speaker 1: Use their money absolutely absolutely, And to be honest, I
Speaker 1: hated OPM an first.
Speaker 4: Other people's money.
Speaker 2: That's what they call it, right, And I feel like
Speaker 2: sometimes you get brainwashed it like now you do it yourself,
Speaker 2: David Ramsey, shit.
Speaker 1: Right like that you just so like I said, it's
Speaker 1: a divine battle. It's like good versus evils. Do it
Speaker 1: by yourself, be independent on everything. And then it's also
Speaker 1: uh not not to say that if you can't beat them,
Speaker 1: join them, but that everybody needs somebody. All the greatest
Speaker 1: companies in the world are not raned by a single person,
Speaker 1: that ran by a great team. Correct teamwork makes the
Speaker 1: dream work.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, even though it's like a car, bro
Speaker 1: a car ain't nothing but a bunch of tools and
Speaker 1: pieces of metal and fluid until a human being gets
Speaker 1: in that motherfucking operator. That's why they're trying to change
Speaker 1: it to autonomous vehicles that drive themselves. And even with that,
Speaker 1: without the car being connected to the grid and the
Speaker 1: internet and GPS and all of those service that costs,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna move itself.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's the team.
Speaker 1: And guess with all of them components and the human
Speaker 1: and the car, it's like you could take one component
Speaker 1: out and it don't work. You take the wheel off,
Speaker 1: now all of that shit that we were just talking about,
Speaker 1: it don't work. Still off a fucking wheel a tire.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, so when I look at business
Speaker 1: from that aspect, it's like, Okay, damn yeah, it's great
Speaker 1: to be an owner and to be a self sufficient
Speaker 1: business or you know what I'm saying, soul proprietor owner
Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying, business person, that's great,
Speaker 1: but you gotta have a team. You gotta let other
Speaker 1: people make money, you gotta let other people eat, you
Speaker 1: gotta do business with other people to expand. So now
Speaker 1: where you said from the business a business a line
Speaker 1: of credit. I didn't agree with that at first because
Speaker 1: it's like, so, what is that essentially a taking a loan.
Speaker 1: You're taking a loan out as you're taking the loan
Speaker 1: from your entity, calibrated to how much money that you're
Speaker 1: accumulating as a business.
Speaker 4: Right, that's what they.
Speaker 3: Because every business has credit, just like every human has credit.
Speaker 1: Right, So we're going off of the trust of how
Speaker 1: much money are you accumulating annually, which is that's a year,
Speaker 1: how much you're accumulating monthly, and then they give you
Speaker 1: a baseline of credit to okay, if your company is evaluated,
Speaker 1: it is so much and you when we look through
Speaker 1: your bank's sales, this is all the different transactions that
Speaker 1: you have to show us xyz amount of money. So
Speaker 1: therefore we feel that at the leverage of your business though,
Speaker 1: because you're putting this at the leverage of the credit
Speaker 1: of your business, right, so that we will give you
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars, we'll give you twenty thousand dollars, and
Speaker 1: then over a period amount of time at a probate rate,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to pay that fifty thousand dollars back. And
Speaker 1: when you pay that fifty thousand dollars back, they're going
Speaker 1: to give you an even bigger line of credit. So
Speaker 1: usually for most people, most people that have the common
Speaker 1: sense to go do this type of stuff, they already
Speaker 1: have already made five figures. Already, they already making twenty
Speaker 1: thirty fifty thousand dollars in some way, type or form.
Speaker 1: So now you show that in business that you can
Speaker 1: be a fucking barber and show that shit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You can be a barber and.
Speaker 2: You're gonna use that barbiera like buy the barbershop or
Speaker 2: that whatever. It's the same thing with the he lock.
Speaker 2: If you have a home right you can pull out
Speaker 2: your bread. Let's say you want to go flip a property, y'all,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull out some bread from my house, pull
Speaker 2: out the pay it.
Speaker 1: Back it back, and then boom, Now own two properties
Speaker 1: or I sold a property, my house is paid for
Speaker 1: an app.
Speaker 3: And I made eighty thousand off the profit of the
Speaker 3: other one.
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's the same. It's the same difference with business.
Speaker 1: And the thing about like you said, music is twelve x.
Speaker 1: Regular business is ten X. Digital abausicy digital business is
Speaker 1: twenty five X. So like if you're on the website
Speaker 1: or something that's five and an app that's twenty, you
Speaker 1: sell that to.
Speaker 3: Oh no, the app money is crazy twenty five.
Speaker 4: If you can hear twenty five, it's twenty five ks.
Speaker 1: If you said that's a Hinge fund investment fund, that's
Speaker 1: twenty fives.
Speaker 3: Are you fucking with crypto?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of money crypto, but I don't
Speaker 1: like it though. But I made money on XRP on
Speaker 1: some rap shit promo. I was on Ripple too, Ripple,
Speaker 1: That's why I made my money from Ripple.
Speaker 4: I had, I had a guy.
Speaker 3: It was like in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty.
Speaker 4: Seventeen, twenty seven. I bought a Maybag off of that ship.
Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen, I had a guy. It spiked in December.
Speaker 1: Listen, I got in I had. I got in when
Speaker 1: it was like thirty cent.
Speaker 2: He got into crypto. He bought WILLI D's cord and
Speaker 2: lost his ass shot to the getto.
Speaker 4: I didn't see see. I got blessed. I didn't have
Speaker 4: to buy my coin.
Speaker 3: But you were early I was there too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't have to buy my coin.
Speaker 1: That's how I got my may back of twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, whenever there was twenty eventeen. I had a
Speaker 1: guy x RP mayback right. I did a commercial about
Speaker 1: it and everything. I had a guy like you're saying,
Speaker 1: a rap hustle, shit, leverage in the rap hustle.
Speaker 3: Wow, someone someone hits you to plug the XRP ship boom.
Speaker 4: He had.
Speaker 1: He had a telegram class called Winter's Cloud. Oh shit, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had like I think it was like I
Speaker 1: don't know when he met me. I think he had
Speaker 1: like eighty students or something, eighty students paying like five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month or some shit. Eighty students planing.
Speaker 1: He was making some cool little money yeah. Then and
Speaker 1: then he also was he was like a shark on
Speaker 1: the crypto shit, and he was like doing real good
Speaker 1: in crypto. He had like a lot of money in crypto,
Speaker 1: but he only wanted to pay me at crypto and
Speaker 1: I hated that shit. So I did the first commercial
Speaker 1: with him in crypto. I started up through cryptocount. We
Speaker 1: did forty thousand dollars for the commercial. The big old
Speaker 1: commercial for on talked about the crypto put out money
Speaker 1: on the internet and said about all this stuff if
Speaker 1: y'all can get on crypto XR people, but.
Speaker 4: Follow his class, his classes. We taught me how to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 1: His class went from like he was theret a one
Speaker 1: hundred hundred students first commercial got him to like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty almost two hundred students, which return of
Speaker 1: investment a good all while.
Speaker 4: So then he wanted to do it monthly.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, bro, we're doing this shit monthly, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not with the crypto shit.
Speaker 4: You gotta pay me cash.
Speaker 1: Like I need cash, bro, Like I want money, So like,
Speaker 1: all right, fuck it, bro, I'm gonna get We're gonna
Speaker 1: do seven months, forty thousand a month for one commercial
Speaker 1: a month. So we did half of the year seven months,
Speaker 1: and then it went good. We end up doing the
Speaker 1: full year. So I made four hundred some thousand off
Speaker 1: of doing the commercials with him, right, but the first
Speaker 1: forty thousand.
Speaker 4: Then he gave me cripto, so I p right.
Speaker 1: That was when they were for four hundred, because listen,
Speaker 1: it was thirty cents.
Speaker 4: It was like up to like three bucks. I got
Speaker 4: I pulled out of a dollar.
Speaker 3: Oh but still I went.
Speaker 1: Crazy though, I went crazy, and then like I then
Speaker 1: like we did some some weird like we did some
Speaker 1: songs with him, like he wanted to dude, like you know,
Speaker 1: we were hustling. But he's a good guy. I love
Speaker 1: gotta love him to it's a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. But we like made him an
Speaker 1: x RP song and shit like that. So I gave
Speaker 1: like some crypto to my partners, and he gave me
Speaker 1: more crypto. He was like, yeah, we just start like
Speaker 1: spreading the sh around. But I pulled out when it
Speaker 1: was a dollar.
Speaker 3: I mean, you made money because it because it's spiked.
Speaker 1: And I turned forty thousand, and then you know how
Speaker 1: that shit go be going down up, So basically it
Speaker 1: went down to like thirty two, right twenty something, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they just went.
Speaker 3: That ship's crazy.
Speaker 1: I went looking at the ship because you know how
Speaker 1: that shit goes. I got hooked up in one phone
Speaker 1: I only got I got the pass word and the
Speaker 1: coin base app on one phone I ould have then
Speaker 1: that lost the phone got to find Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine, bro who lost his
Speaker 2: he had everything on a hard ledger. He had about
Speaker 2: thirty or forty grand on there and lost it.
Speaker 4: I got I gotta lucky, bro.
Speaker 2: They say there's like million, hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 2: of lost bitcoin for sure, floating.
Speaker 1: Into almost lost my phone hundred thousand. I just got
Speaker 1: lucky that I found the call my manager. I found
Speaker 1: the phone at my manager the house one day. Connected
Speaker 1: that one phone. Yes, connected to that one phone, bro.
Speaker 1: I found the phone. The screen was broke, fixing the
Speaker 1: phone the morning. But it was cool, though it was, it.
Speaker 4: Was some cool.
Speaker 2: I got to ask you, man, you know, I know
Speaker 2: you had a relationship with Dolph resting piece to Doph.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been in like you were.
Speaker 2: In La you had that situation where it was around
Speaker 2: the time you recorded your freestyle the Guy, the Guy.
Speaker 2: Obviously there was a famous video of the blood on
Speaker 2: your shoes and all that shit. How when you see
Speaker 2: like you've been in those types of situations where you
Speaker 2: could have lost your life, you see friends who you're
Speaker 2: close with throughout the music industry losing your life. I'm
Speaker 2: sure people who we don't even know that are your
Speaker 2: friends from your hometown that have lost their life. How
Speaker 2: does that affect your mental because you're someone who's like
Speaker 2: out the fuck side, you know what I'm saying, very
Speaker 2: very accessible.
Speaker 4: You're a man of the people. But when you lose a.
Speaker 2: Guy like Dolf or you see what happens to Nipsey,
Speaker 2: you know these people who lost their life in their hometown,
Speaker 2: you know, does it make you second guess your approach
Speaker 2: to how you go outside, like moving around a certain way?
Speaker 4: I mean for.
Speaker 1: Number one, again, like everybody hometown in the city and
Speaker 1: state is different, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, how can I say this.
Speaker 1: I'm a person that believes in every ten years, you
Speaker 1: have to make an example for people to understand the
Speaker 1: respect that you.
Speaker 4: Demand as a human being.
Speaker 1: And I'm a person that I'm always gonna make sure
Speaker 1: that those examples have been made to gain my respect
Speaker 1: as a as a as a person. And I've done
Speaker 1: that way before this rap shit Like I grew up
Speaker 1: in gang wars, violence fights, going to jail, going to penitentiary,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, fighting with shanks, And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, a fucking fan putting a fan
Speaker 1: motor in.
Speaker 4: A sock and using it like a numbruck. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You get hit one time, yo, eye socker down there
Speaker 1: breaking come out like.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I've seen a different type of darkness, like regarded to
Speaker 1: all the OUI and the q shit and bubbos in
Speaker 1: my head like I'm a crack baby, Like I come
Speaker 1: from a different type of savagery. So my comfort, my comfort,
Speaker 1: and my peace is in the midst any abits of savagery.
Speaker 1: That's that's who feel the most comfortable around me. That's
Speaker 1: who I feel most comfortable around because we want them
Speaker 1: the same. And a lion knows a lion, a gorilla
Speaker 1: knows a gorilla, a bear knows a bear, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: But it feels like sometimes it's the goat or the
Speaker 2: fucking calf that comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: No, that's that's where.
Speaker 1: That's where again where I say, it's examples that got
Speaker 1: to be made, and there's good examples and bad examples.
Speaker 4: They got to be made.
Speaker 1: And we have to understand that nobody's bigger than the
Speaker 1: next person, you know what I'm saying. So just when
Speaker 1: you're a superstar and you somebody who's known in the
Speaker 1: position of power, you gotta give back as well. You
Speaker 1: have to give back charity, you gotta give back money,
Speaker 1: you gotta give back opportunities. You got to give bad clothes, food,
Speaker 1: the things that are nothing to you, or the things
Speaker 1: that you have an overabundance of, you have to give
Speaker 1: those things back. But just like you have to give
Speaker 1: that back, it's certain ass whoopings that you gotta give
Speaker 1: back as well. And a child without a ass whooping,
Speaker 1: or they don't know that you are a person that
Speaker 1: likes to kick ass, then they're gonna be rebellion to
Speaker 1: you and they're gonna do things to you that's insubordinate
Speaker 1: or this cause chaos because you don't apply order. I'm
Speaker 1: a person that I'm very very stern on applying order
Speaker 1: in my hometown, in somebody else town wherever I'm at.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm people people who don't or people
Speaker 1: like when they say that shit about checking in, Like
Speaker 1: if you don't a person that don't check in or
Speaker 1: that don't fuck with gangsters and people, that's a person
Speaker 1: that's like minding you. When you go to the city
Speaker 1: state you not like that you're not or you coming
Speaker 1: or you're coming to this place with all of your
Speaker 1: resources and in lines of defense with you to basically
Speaker 1: try to it's not even the user word in truth.
Speaker 1: You want to visit this person land to do what
Speaker 1: you want to do in their land, but you can't
Speaker 1: be thinking that you're going to do this permanently and
Speaker 1: stay here without having some type of a mishap of confusion.
Speaker 1: And I'm a person that grew up in so much confusion,
Speaker 1: so much controversy, so much violence, that I just know
Speaker 1: how to weather then deal with it so well, because
Speaker 1: that's what my whole like, like my whole entire childhood,
Speaker 1: Like like you google this shit, like look me up.
Speaker 1: There's not nothing like my life, not a secret ex
Speaker 1: around Houston like Texas, like us. My entire life has
Speaker 1: been so riding around violence, and that's rather subsiding violence,
Speaker 1: engaging in violence, or you know, having the mental capacity
Speaker 1: and respect to talk and a situation that's very very
Speaker 1: dangerous where we all could lose our lives right now,
Speaker 1: but I understand how to make conversation and wags of
Speaker 1: war to what we both can leave and go home
Speaker 1: and see our families and gain the level of respective
Speaker 1: understanding for whatever the problem was and get to a
Speaker 1: resolution to their problem in the midst of water. And
Speaker 1: a lot of artists, a lot of people shy a
Speaker 1: right away from that. They don't want to deal with
Speaker 1: their hands on they that hear about it, or they
Speaker 1: know it's a problem, and they allow a problem to grow.
Speaker 1: I don't allow problems to grow. Problems have to be
Speaker 1: put your hand on the problem.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: If it's an ant bed, you have to get that
Speaker 1: ant bed out of your grass, or you need to
Speaker 1: build an.
Speaker 4: Ecosystem where you and ants can live together in peace
Speaker 4: and harmony.
Speaker 2: It is interesting because, as you know, everyone's moving to
Speaker 2: Texas right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you got all of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's I love it. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Whether it's Dallas or Houston, it feels like or Austin,
Speaker 2: Austin's lit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love you. I love that everybody's coming to Texas.
Speaker 2: I like it's people don't want to pay taxes, man,
Speaker 2: and they want to.
Speaker 1: I don't know why people think you come in here,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay taxes, Like we have taxes.
Speaker 3: Don't got property taxes. Yeah, you ain't got state tax.
Speaker 4: No, we don't have a state tax.
Speaker 3: State tax.
Speaker 4: Thirty if you make some money to be in the
Speaker 4: state of California.
Speaker 2: Yes, so add that with your federal tax, you're giving
Speaker 2: up half your money.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You know we don't have that's what well, I never
Speaker 1: thought about that. But when you talk about like property tax, and.
Speaker 3: That's why Elon's over there making tessels out there.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, all of Yeah, we got testlatle buildings everywhere,
Speaker 1: like huge ass tessela facilities everywhere all over the state
Speaker 1: of Texas for sure, Amazon.
Speaker 4: And all them this shit, Yo, I love it. Though
Speaker 4: it's more money.
Speaker 1: It's like, like I said, our economy raises, ecosystem raises,
Speaker 1: do everything raises when everybody from around the world comes
Speaker 1: and see how amazing of a place that Texas is
Speaker 1: and the opportunities that we could create and share together.
Speaker 1: But it's up to the people that's from Texas to
Speaker 1: to take a leading force in the leading hand and
Speaker 1: what's going on in the evolution of our state.
Speaker 3: How you feeling about the Rockets, Man, great young team.
Speaker 4: I think we got a.
Speaker 1: Great I think the Texas period we've got great teams
Speaker 1: like the Houston Texans.
Speaker 4: We got a great team. C J.
Speaker 1: Stroud, Uh they just signed, just got step fun Diz.
Speaker 1: We got a great sports team, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We got some good coaching.
Speaker 4: Now. I think the Houston Rockets a great team.
Speaker 1: Books uh Green Van Fleet saying sant Goon is a beast.
Speaker 4: He's my favorite one of all of them.
Speaker 1: The Sam the Center excuse me, Turkish motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: All right, that's that's our droger, that's our joker.
Speaker 1: Like I got you one of them Europeans, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be that boy. We got some good Dirk the Winskey
Speaker 1: down that we're cool. I like him being there. And
Speaker 1: then the Dallas Mavericks was just in the.
Speaker 3: Championship and the Rangers just want to.
Speaker 1: And the Rangers just won the world title right after
Speaker 1: the Houston Houston that shows won too. So like all
Speaker 1: of those spaces, Texas is doing great. That's why I
Speaker 1: be so passionate about the music part.
Speaker 4: We talked about.
Speaker 3: Man, I think I think right now Texas in good hands.
Speaker 1: No, we're doing great right now, but it's still more
Speaker 1: work than needs to be done.
Speaker 4: But right now we're doing great.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm on the fans ass like right now
Speaker 1: the artist is doing whatever they supposed to be doing
Speaker 1: right now, my vendetta or my beefer who people who
Speaker 1: I feel need to be corrected is the is. The
Speaker 1: is the consumers, the fans, and the party promoters, y'all.
Speaker 1: The are you party promoters? Are you of club owners
Speaker 1: and store vendors and event planners and all that shit?
Speaker 1: And and the fans of people that's from the community,
Speaker 1: the regular people love the artists that's from And this
Speaker 1: is not a problem that I really did with like
Speaker 1: that because I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 4: Really him, But.
Speaker 1: Just as a universal growth of my state and my city,
Speaker 1: it's still greater opportunities that I miss out on as well,
Speaker 1: because it's not enough. See, the hater wants to be
Speaker 1: the owner nigga, that's the big popping stuff.
Speaker 4: No nigga, Well, who is Michael Jordan?
Speaker 1: If he don't got nobody else in the NBA to
Speaker 1: play against, Sure, he's just another tall nigga that runs
Speaker 1: fast and jump high. If you don't have competitive nature
Speaker 1: around you to where the world wants to see what's
Speaker 1: going on in your backyard, then it means nothing. So
Speaker 1: even though I'm saucewalking, I'm great making the status she's
Speaker 1: making him saying she's great. Uh uh, Travis Scott is
Speaker 1: Travis Scott, He's great. We all of these great superstar
Speaker 1: missive stars of cultural cultural pieces on different levels. But
Speaker 1: we still need all of the the Jermans and the
Speaker 1: ot B's and the Maxo Crans and all these other people.
Speaker 1: We need the big EXA plugs, D bat D baby
Speaker 1: Payso we need more and more and more and more
Speaker 1: of that. Because I don't I may not be able
Speaker 1: to knock down the door that you can't knock down.
Speaker 1: I think I might not be the person that brings
Speaker 1: Nake to the city but you pout to do. I
Speaker 1: might not be the person that could bring fucking Universal
Speaker 1: Studios or whatever this company was to the hit.
Speaker 3: I think I think, you know, also like bringing it
Speaker 3: like like you said, you you you have that compound
Speaker 3: space that you could bring people to do.
Speaker 4: That show it's happening. Everybody ain't got the money to
Speaker 4: do that show.
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about the artists that were you know,
Speaker 3: obviously there's artistic.
Speaker 1: Stead this ship called money, bro, Like, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: when you got people, you got to think everybody's trying
Speaker 1: to keep up with the Joneses. They're not getting that
Speaker 1: fat ass chack every money they living off of. I
Speaker 1: got paid one million dollars one time. I got paid
Speaker 1: two million dollars one time, and I got to stretch
Speaker 1: out this two million dollars until I go on to
Speaker 1: and get paid. Hey man, people, I feel like Posts.
Speaker 1: It's different post moone has the power. No, yeah, those guys,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But come on, Post moved to Utah.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be intensive. They don't want
Speaker 1: to be intentions to deal with the politics, right, they
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that. That's why Person Night
Speaker 1: Sauce Walker is so important. Because I got the millions,
Speaker 1: I got the power, I got the fame, I got
Speaker 1: the start them. I got all this ship to leave
Speaker 1: Texas and the win and never look back and get
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. But I stayed right, and I continue
Speaker 1: to fight and stay and make Texas greater, and I
Speaker 1: continue to be relevant. I stay rich, I stay bottling
Speaker 1: what new cyber truck out, we bound tyber truck road
Speaker 1: ortchu we bound roads, ruts, change costs.
Speaker 4: House or whatever.
Speaker 1: I keep my my I keep my stats up to
Speaker 1: the point to where every person that from Houston or
Speaker 1: front side of Texas has the same things to be
Speaker 1: proud of and be happy or that they have that
Speaker 1: other people from these other cities and states have. And
Speaker 1: then I make these other starts acknowledge it and love
Speaker 1: it and respect that when they come to my city
Speaker 1: the same way I do to them, and they just
Speaker 1: needs to be appreciating more all around the city.
Speaker 4: And You're right, these artistics is making money.
Speaker 1: Need to do things to invest into the city and
Speaker 1: the culture like I'm doing, Like having real estate. If
Speaker 1: you could do it, then do it. But it's hard.
Speaker 1: I'm paying seventy five hundred a month for my compound
Speaker 1: in Houston on top of having five houses that I have,
Speaker 1: on top of having another compound and bro in Miami.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We're just talking about to
Speaker 4: be there.
Speaker 1: We ain't saying all the bills and all the eighty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for fucking renovation, the floor, POxy, floors, cool ash,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like everybody for sure able
Speaker 1: get it, but just try try.
Speaker 3: Try anything coming music wise.
Speaker 1: My album just dropped Man South After two out right now,
Speaker 1: Soft Water two, a second addition to a series that
Speaker 1: I started a long time ago to that. Now I'm
Speaker 1: officially making the series. Most of my music got do.
Speaker 1: Most of my albums are serious pieces. Yeah, damn j
Speaker 1: album on the way. My story is growing. Have the
Speaker 1: other store in Miami, the sauspect three of Miami and Brickel.
Speaker 1: We got my boat Potential Watercrab, and have a boat
Speaker 1: company that I own.
Speaker 4: My artist dropping music.
Speaker 1: We're trying to get into movies and films and trying
Speaker 1: to get into you know, voice acting and you know,
Speaker 1: just working hard. I'm gonna put out a large body
Speaker 1: of work within the next two years, like music wise,
Speaker 1: because I'm thirty four years old. Now I'm a millionaire.
Speaker 1: I'm still making my money. I'm going but I want
Speaker 1: to hear in your prime, my primes. I'm over. I'm
Speaker 1: an overdo this ship and then I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: period of time where I exploring other ship.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Hey man, you got you could do a lot, dude.
Speaker 2: So, like you said, voiceover ship acting, whatever there it is,
Speaker 2: Sauce Man, I appreciate you finding pla away.
Speaker 1: Hey man, it's been a pleasure. I've been wanting to
Speaker 1: come here for a long time. Man, I'm glad we
Speaker 1: got to do it, fire,