1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: We are standing by with a pretty key guest for 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: a day like today. 3 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: That is ARM CEO. 4 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Renee has with our own Caroline High Caroline. 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: It's great to be here with Renee, the CEO of ARM. 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: It is your day, Renee, talk to us about the 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: amount of emails, phone calls, text messages, celebrations, the Cambridge 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: part of your company going berserk? How does it feel? 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, what an exciting day. You know, I'm hearing 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: from high school friends I have not talked to in 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: a long time, who are saying you never told me, 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: I think as we're watching this on TV. But most 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: of all, I'm so thrilled for the employees of ARM, 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: thirty three year old company, great heritage. But watching all 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: the employees in Cambridge celebrate simultaneously, that was magical and 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: they might continue to celebrate as we see what seventeen 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: eighteen percent increase? 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: How has that journey of going out to investors the 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: road show, the story that you've been able seemingly to 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: successfully sell the fact that you're trading well on this day? 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: What was the vision they wanted to hear? Revenue growth? 22 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: I hear of eleven percent up to twenty five percent 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: in the next couple of years. What drives you. 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: I think it was a great process. Investors really wanted 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: to understand the opportunity we had in front of us, 26 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: and of course AI, which you can't really talk about 27 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: our industry without talking about AI. And I think helping 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: them understand that you can't really run AI without ARM 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: without a CPU, and just pointing out to them that 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: it's in everywhere, in every device that people touch, was 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: a big part of the process for us. 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: Because everyone has made the equivalent of your a smartphone, 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: it's completely absorbed, more than ninety percent of phones is 34 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: where your CPUs are. But the design, the fact that 35 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: you now want to be integral to data centers, and 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: they're like, how certain are you on the revenue vision, 37 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: on the profitability vision, even though we see concerns about 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: macro environment still and whether or not we're in an 39 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: AI hype cycle. 40 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so AI is everywhere, and if it's your edge 41 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: device like the Assistant or the Alexa or your autonomous vehicle, 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: that's all AI. And now we're seeing it in the 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: cloud and the data center. With all the growth with 44 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Nvidia in VideA announcing one of their newest products, grace 45 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Hopper that is based on ARM, so ARM is everywhere 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: relative to AI. We also have a very unique business 47 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: model that gives us the ability to have a very 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: very good vision in the future in terms of when 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: people use our products. So relative to our confidence in 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: the outlook, we have a very very high confidence that 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the growth rate that we have talked about will be sustained. 52 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: How word were investeds about China and your exposure. 53 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of questions, as you 54 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: can imagine about China in general, given all the geopolitics. 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: Our business there looks a lot like the rest of 56 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: the world. We have great growth in the data center, 57 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: we have great growth in automotive. China's huge on electric vehicles, 58 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: so it's been terrific there for us. I have the 59 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: same kind of headaches that every other tech CEO has 60 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: regarding how to navigate through this, but no different. 61 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: Do you think there will be more pressure now that 62 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: you're public again? Ultimately? I mean, you came to ARM 63 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, you were listed at that point, but 64 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: it's not Bean Sin's twenty sixteen that you have been 65 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: How does the game change as a leader of that 66 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: business now? 67 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's some things that we were able 68 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: to do as a private company that will just be different. Right, 69 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: quarterly earnings, making sure that we hit all our commitments. 70 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: But ARM is not a business you measure from quarter 71 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: to quarter. You measure us over years and decades, and 72 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: the long term vision is something that I am very, 73 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: very passionate about, and we'll continue to drive the company 74 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: the same way private or public. 75 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: You have a lot of key vested interests, whether they 76 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: be your clients, Apple, TSMC and tel taking big stakes 77 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: in the company today. How important are those voices? Visa 78 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: the masses the head of soft Bank. I'm sure you're 79 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: on the phone too daily. 80 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the challenges of our industry, im 81 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: prely with with ARM is that the fact that we're everywhere. 82 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: None of this works unless we play nice with others. 83 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: So we have to have a lot of engagements with 84 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: strategic partners and making sure that we're managing that balance, 85 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: including Masa, our chief shareholder. 86 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: Do you think he lets more of ARM become public? 87 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: Is that something you'd like to see you? 88 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Massa and I talk quite frequently, But it's really not 89 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: about the day to day. It's about the long term vision. 90 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: The passion that he and I have about the future 91 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: and really about what this company it can be long term. 92 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: So I don't expect that to change being a public company. 93 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: Do you think you go public in the UK? I'm 94 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: sure it's been a bit of sweet for the London 95 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: Stock Exchange today. 96 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. So today, obviously we're in New York, but we're 97 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: incredibly proud of our UK heritage and we are opening 98 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: to considering that down the road. 99 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Okay, any sort of time frame for that. 100 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: None that we can talk about today. I'm trying to 101 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: get through today a little. 102 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: Bit well before you get through today. In that respect, 103 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: investors do love all things regarding artificial intelligence. But how 104 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: have you managed to land that your story is different? 105 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: People have been so exuberant about Nvidia, where you used 106 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: to work, but they're really exuberant about GPUs. How have 107 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: you said that you are able to claim a larger 108 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: royalty share of how AI continues to be said? 109 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the benefits of the road show 110 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: was spending a lot of time with the investors talking 111 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: about AI and where we fit. And I think one 112 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: of the misconceptions is that a GPU can run without 113 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: a CPU, which is just not the case, the CPU 114 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: is central to every electronics device and there are devices 115 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: that chip with a CPU and a GPU. So once 116 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: investors kind of got that, then explaining where the puck 117 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: was going relative to gosh and vidia's next generation host 118 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: advanced product, grace Hopper, is using ARM CPUs instead of 119 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: the competition, the light bulb went on that, Oh my gosh, 120 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: you need the CPU. And at the same time, in 121 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Video has made a big bet on ARM in their 122 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: most sophisticated product, and once that message kind of sunk 123 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: through people, the light bulb went on as, oh my gosh, 124 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: I get it. 125 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: There has been this moment though, at which we're trying 126 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: to understand how the landscape works with global demand and 127 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: that translating into revenue. When you think of Oracle's numbers 128 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: that came in and look, they delivered thirty percent increase 129 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: and it comes to their cloud provision and their AI bet, 130 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: but it doesn't always immediately turn into revenue in the 131 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: here and the now. How convinced are you that it 132 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: is going to be in the bottom line evident in 133 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: the next coming quarters. 134 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: As far as AI, oh, I think it's un questionable 135 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that AI, which has already been here right for a 136 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: number of years. The Chat cheap D moment taught us that, 137 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the capability of what this can do 138 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: going forward has gone up a level. And I think 139 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: we've seen that over and over in our industry. There 140 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: tends to be lightning bolt moments that greatly accelerate the 141 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: adoption of technology. And I think with AI, as you 142 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: move towards AGI computers that can think, I think we 143 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: now have seen an accelerant for that. Ultimately down the 144 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: road how people make money off that. It'll get figured out. 145 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: But AI is here to stay. That's unquestionable. 146 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: And it seems as though you're integraled to soft banks 147 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: vision of AI and Massa's vision of AI. How can 148 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: you announce it a little bit? You say, talking to 149 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: him daily, what his vision of ARM within the ecosystem 150 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: going forward really is. 151 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: He and I share a very same view that ARM 152 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: is one of the most important technology companies in our industry, foundational, 153 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: if you will, and I would like to see us 154 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: over the next five to ten years really be recognized 155 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: that way, and he and I are very aligned on that. 156 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: As you can you when you think about five to 157 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: ten years out, there's a lot of things to talk 158 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: about in terms of the art of the possible, but 159 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: that's really where he's focused on when his conversations with. 160 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Me, long term thinking but then near term action. We 161 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: understand he was pretty integral to calling the shots on 162 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: price points for today's listing. How was that as just 163 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: an IPO experience? Did he end up being like, no, 164 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: we need to leave a little bit of money on 165 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: the table. This needs to be a successful trade. 166 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: But all I can say is this is my first 167 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: road show, so everything was altering experience. We wanted to 168 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: be at the high end of the range that we 169 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: set forty seven to fifty one, and that's where it 170 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: ended up. So we're happy. We're very thrilled with today. 171 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: You said that school friends are going to in touch 172 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: can why have you been hiding this from them? How 173 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: do you feel differently now as a CEO of a 174 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: publicly traded company? Do you feel differently today? 175 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit differently in looking ahead at 176 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: this number than what the share price is. That wasn't 177 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: something we looked at before. But you know again, when 178 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: and I told this to employees, while the IPO is 179 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: amazing and I could not be more proud of it. 180 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: I am far more excited about the next five to 181 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: ten years and that's where my head is focused. Obviously 182 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: we needed things as a public company CEO, but I 183 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: don't feel too much different. 184 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: And sometimes these are marketing exercises. Armor is B to B. 185 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: But do you think you've become more relevant B to 186 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: see now you're saying how people had no idea, Well 187 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: this because largely people don't realize that every day they 188 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: are interacting with your designs, with your blueprints. 189 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: The people who need to know what we do do know. Obviously, 190 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: just giving the fact that all the global partners that 191 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: we work with going forward, how to market ourselves as 192 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: a public company, That's one of the things as a 193 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: public company CEO, I'll spend some time thinking about. But 194 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: right now we're just kind of focused on today and 195 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: what that means. 196 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, within this exuberance of today, yesterday we saw 197 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: basically every key chief executive of an AI company, AI 198 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: related company indoors and a closed hearing with Senate Majority 199 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: Leader Chuck Schumer. Can you tell us about regulation? How 200 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: do you see the landscape evolving to ensure that you 201 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: can harness that AI moment? 202 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those areas that is an 203 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: unknown moment. And I remember talking to an executive about 204 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: the analogy or metaphor we used was when cars were invented, 205 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: you didn't have driver's licenses, you didn't have lanes, you 206 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: didn't have rules of the road. There was a lot 207 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: of things that people had to figure out in terms 208 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: of taking a device that was going to be very 209 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: very productive but could be very dangerous in terms of 210 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: automobile accidents. AI is a little bit of the same 211 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: in the sense that we're now in a new paradigm 212 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: where some rules and regulations need to be figured out, 213 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: and that's why I think you're seeing all this activity 214 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,239 Speaker 1: around that area. 215 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: Is the US leading the charge and regulation is Europe? 216 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: Is the UK is getting it right? 217 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: From your perspective, I think all the governments are trying 218 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: to figure it out. I know the EU has spent 219 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot of energy on this, as had the UK. 220 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: So in terms of who's getting it right, I think 221 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: it's still early days and everyone's really just trying to 222 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: learn how technology and this new powerful algorithm will work together. 223 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: Keep teaching us. Great to have some time with you, 224 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: I have because the CEO of