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Speaker 1: infantestable amounts. So the league is doing this same Listen,

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Speaker 1: how can we get the union to shut up about

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Speaker 1: this and move on? What is the cheapest way out

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Speaker 1: of it? And that's what the league is doing. So

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Speaker 1: the league acquiesces, but not fully because the Players Association,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned, was looking for daily testing for all

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Speaker 1: players vaccinated or otherwise and they only got the testing

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Speaker 1: reduced from once every two weeks to once a week.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if that changes again, and if so,

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Speaker 1: when that change happens. Twitter conversation today obviously deals with

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Speaker 1: the formation of the fifty three man rosters, So with

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Speaker 1: that in mind, we are asking you the following. I

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Speaker 1: will be happy if the Bills blank with the roster

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Speaker 1: and there are choices there on the Twitter poll A

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Speaker 1: keep seven receivers, B trade from a position of depth,

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Speaker 1: C acquire a surprise contributor or D other and Steve

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Speaker 1: I saw in the early voting leading the way was

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Speaker 1: acquiring a surprise contributor on a loaded roster. The fans

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Speaker 1: are most interested in seeing more added to the roster.

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Speaker 1: How about that? I gotta I gotta be honest and

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Speaker 1: I'll full disclosure. That's how I voted. Okay, I like

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Speaker 1: the guys. They've got, no question there. This is a

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Speaker 1: talent hunted. When you say star studded or budding stars.

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Speaker 1: They got everything. They got quality veterans, they got young

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Speaker 1: guys who are spreading their wings. They got a superstar quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got everything you want. So if they

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Speaker 1: can find a way to get a guy that's like hey, wow,

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Speaker 1: look at this guy, yeah, I'm all about it because

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Speaker 1: it just makes them that much harder to beat. I

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Speaker 1: voted for keep seven wide receivers because I think with

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Speaker 1: the way we anticipate this offense operating on a weekly basis,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need fresh legs. We saw what happened last

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Speaker 1: year at the end of the season. Okay, John Brown

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Speaker 1: and trouble staying healthy all year but went out with

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Speaker 1: another injury, miss seven games last year. It's one of

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Speaker 1: your top three wideouts. Cole Beasley Cracks is fibule in

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Speaker 1: Week sixteen. Stefan Diggs has an oblique muscle tear late

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Speaker 1: in the season and really is still playing well, but

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Speaker 1: isn't quite the same. I think those injuries greatly contributed

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Speaker 1: to the offense and its production, which looked virtually unstoppable

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Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, to being not

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Speaker 1: as intimidating in the playoffs. Now, granted you are playing

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Speaker 1: better defenses, but I think we can agree Cole beasily

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Speaker 1: he wasn't right in the playoffs. Diggs was dealing with

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Speaker 1: an issue that compromised his effectiveness at times, and John

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Speaker 1: Brown didn't look the same either after his knee injury.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I would be in favor of or

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Speaker 1: I would be hopeful that they keep seven receivers, knowing

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Speaker 1: they're probably going to need to call on some of

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Speaker 1: those guys at given points in time during the course

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Speaker 1: of the year, especially knowing you've got an extra regular

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Speaker 1: season game in there, and I think maybe more than

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Speaker 1: ever NFL clubs, and knowing how advanced Buffalo's sports department is,

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Speaker 1: load management is going to be a phrase that's going

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Speaker 1: to be used, maybe more than ever in this league

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Speaker 1: because of it. And you know, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: tell you how much receivers run during the week and

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Speaker 1: in games. And I think to further that point, there

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Speaker 1: are players that have flashed too much in the preseason

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Speaker 1: for the Bills that you can't put him on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. You can't put mark Quez Stevenson on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. Someone will scoop him up. And so for me,

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Speaker 1: he was my seventh receiver. So I would be inclined

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Speaker 1: to have them keep seven receivers because that is the

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Speaker 1: heartbeat of what you are offensively, and you need all

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Speaker 1: the fresh legs you can get, and you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: to find a way to blend them in through the

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Speaker 1: course of the season in different given weeks based on

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Speaker 1: matchups you're facing a small secondary, get Komer on the

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Speaker 1: field for an extra four or five series in that game.

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Speaker 1: Then maybe how much usually play him? You got a

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Speaker 1: team that plays a lot of zone defense. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you use your underneath guys more that just know

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Speaker 1: where to sit all the time. You got guys that

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Speaker 1: play aggressive press. Get Stevenson out on the field so

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Speaker 1: he can get behind people, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think there might be knowing how much Brian Dable

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Speaker 1: plays to the individual matchups with his game planning and

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Speaker 1: play calling, I think they've got to be more open

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Speaker 1: to a rotation at receiver. Now I'm not saying it

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Speaker 1: take Stefon Digs off the field or Cole Beasley off

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Speaker 1: the field. But maybe there's a play in a series,

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Speaker 1: like you're on an eleven play drive, maybe on play

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Speaker 1: eight just sub out Beasley and you put somebody else

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Speaker 1: in the slot for one snap, and then Beasley's back

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Speaker 1: out there for third down. You know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a way that the Bills receiving Corps

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Speaker 1: is going to have to look at this much the

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Speaker 1: way they do with the defensive line. It's it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because once you go seven wide receivers, if you get

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Speaker 1: into one of these regular down and distance games where

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play three wides most of the game and

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Speaker 1: throw a tight end out there, well you got then

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Speaker 1: you got four guys on your bench that don't get

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Speaker 1: a chance to play. And you know what are they? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kumros play special teams. Isaah McKenzie returns kicks. Okay, there's two. Well,

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Speaker 1: or if you keep Stevenson Steve Stevenson returns kicks, McKenzie

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Speaker 1: returns punts. Now you're lightning the load for both. Because

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Speaker 1: I think what we have to look at is those

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Speaker 1: are two diminutive players in stature. Maybe you don't want

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Speaker 1: to wear them down, so the role. But think about it,

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Speaker 1: you're using two roster spots for a total of ten plays.

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Speaker 1: Tops you're talking strictly special teams. Yeah, so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you can sprinkle them in on offense and stuff if

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Speaker 1: you want. But who you're gonna take off the field

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Speaker 1: to put those guys on the field? Right? Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: also the like good five wide I guess, But the

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Speaker 1: point is you're gonna try and get the most production

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Speaker 1: out of the roster. The fifty three guys, forty seven

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Speaker 1: guys you've got on the field on a Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be active, who's going to be inactive? And

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Speaker 1: you can keep seven guys on the fifty three. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that all seven of them have to be

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Speaker 1: active every week, and you can you can monkey with

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Speaker 1: it that way, I get it. And you don't want

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Speaker 1: to lose one of those players because they can play.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem using up a spot for guys you

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Speaker 1: can play but aren't gonna play for you. That's when

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Speaker 1: you think, okay, can I get a draft pick for

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Speaker 1: these guys something? Because they're not We're not going to

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Speaker 1: get enough out if we stay healthy, we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get enough out of them. That's the big question. Can

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Speaker 1: you do that throughout the year to keep the level

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Speaker 1: of talent on your roster all the way down through

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Speaker 1: it at a high enough level so that no matter

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Speaker 1: what happens injury wise, you're gonna be able to fill

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Speaker 1: it in and keep on trucking. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you can do that. You keep too many guys a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. All of a sudden, you're juggling roster spots

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Speaker 1: during the regular season because you know they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: inactive one or all of the week. You know, most

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Speaker 1: of the weeks, you're not going to activate seven guys

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Speaker 1: unless you've got this, you know, four wide set, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go one hundred percent of the time. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna say this, between eleven and ten personnel, those

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Speaker 1: two lineups we three wides on the field or four

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Speaker 1: wides on the field made up ninety five percent of

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's play calls last year. Ninety five percent. They were also,

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Speaker 1: as I found out through my own research, seven NFL

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Speaker 1: clubs last year that carried seven receivers on their roster.

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Speaker 1: Nine teams carried five. The other half of the league,

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Speaker 1: sixteen teams carried six receivers, including the Bills. Those six

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Speaker 1: receivers were active every single week for Buffalo, Right, So

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Speaker 1: you're right, Steve one, if you carry seven, may be

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Speaker 1: inactive every week. But with the frequency that these receivers

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Speaker 1: are out running patterns, getting targeted, catching passes, getting tackled,

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Speaker 1: I just think the wear and tear and the aim

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Speaker 1: of this offense and what its identity is almost demands

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Speaker 1: that you have an extra set of legs at the ready,

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Speaker 1: And could you do it on the practice squad? Sure,

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Speaker 1: but I think Stevenson gets scooped up if he's on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad by another club. Yeah, I think he

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Speaker 1: run that risk. No question. Break time for us here

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Speaker 1: when we come back more on this roster discussion, and

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Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. You will be happy

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Speaker 1: if the Bills do what with the roster choices? Are

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Speaker 1: there at one Bills Live or you can give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty coming up second hour of

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Speaker 1: the show. Armando Salgaro, formerly in the Miami Herald, now

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Speaker 1: without Kick as a senior NFL writer. We'll find out

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Speaker 1: what the heck is going on down in Miami with

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Speaker 1: all these Watson rumblings, along with what's the outlook for

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Speaker 1: two of coming out of training camp in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: We'll delve into all of it at some point here

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Speaker 1: today on One Bill's Line presented by Kalada Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. There is an update concerning the

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Speaker 1: Saints and their Week one game, which I believe is

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Speaker 1: against the Packers. Is that right? So Sean Payton had

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Speaker 1: a press conference this morning. They're in Dallas, by the way,

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Speaker 1: practicing right now because there's nowhere to practice in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans with the city basically in blackout mode. There is

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Speaker 1: no power almost anywhere in the city center. And he

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Speaker 1: said he expects the Saints to be away from New

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Speaker 1: Orleans for the next month. I mean today is August

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Speaker 1: thirty first, so we're talking all of September, the first

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Speaker 1: four weeks of the season, or at least three weeks

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Speaker 1: because the season openers are the weekend of the twelfth.

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Speaker 1: With Sean Payton, he says over the next month, the

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Speaker 1: league says only that they are monitoring developments and are

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Speaker 1: in communication with the club. Nothing official as of now,

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Speaker 1: but they'll see where things go. That is upheaval to

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Speaker 1: the highest degree, and that organization has been through it before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still remember when the Bills had to

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Speaker 1: travel to San Antonio early in the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: five season to play against the Saints down there at

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Speaker 1: the Alamo Deile because that's where they were playing their

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Speaker 1: home games when they were displaced by Hurricane Katrina. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's what happened as well when I did a

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins game against the San Diego Chargers in Baton Rouge,

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Speaker 1: Louisiana because of wildfires in San Diego. I believe it

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Speaker 1: was it wildfires or was it the hurricane in Miami,

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Speaker 1: one of the two. They relocate those games every so often,

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Speaker 1: but never for a month like you're talking about. And

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Speaker 1: I remember Hurricane Katrina was sixteen seventeen years ago. I

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Speaker 1: went down there and did hurricane relief work for a minute.

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Speaker 1: He was unbelievable the devastation and this was supposedly worse

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Speaker 1: although they Category four, although they kind of saw it coming,

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Speaker 1: have been down that road before, so there's a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But people lost their lives and everything they owned. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to get excited about a football

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Speaker 1: team in that environment. On a much lighter note, Mike Reese,

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Speaker 1: the ESPN Patriots beat reporter, says Mac Jones jerseys at

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Speaker 1: the Patriots pro shop are already sold out. Awesome. He

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Speaker 1: was named the starter pretty much by default after the

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Speaker 1: team released Cam Newton. You could make a case that

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Speaker 1: Cam that Mac Jones has played better than any rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback thus far, all in all, better than Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: better than justin Fields, better than any of the Trey

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Speaker 1: lance He's played as well as any rookie quarterback thus

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Speaker 1: far this season in training camp from what you've heard

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Speaker 1: about and seen heard people talk about, Yep, it is.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton released by the Patriots. But we have other

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Speaker 1: things to discuss, and it concerns the Bill's roster, and

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Speaker 1: that is the subject of our Twitter conversation today, which

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Speaker 1: basically is, I will be happy if the Bills blank

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Speaker 1: with the roster. There are choices for you there at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live on Twitter, or you can give us

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Speaker 1: a call. Eight oh three oh, five fifty if you

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Speaker 1: have your own decision one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty open line for you. There among the choices,

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Speaker 1: keeps seven receivers, trade from a position of depth, acquire

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Speaker 1: a surprise contributor or something else, and keeping seven wide

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Speaker 1: receivers is gaining grounds on acquiring a surprise contributor. Pioplore

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Speaker 1: was fascinated when there's an acquisition via trade that always

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Speaker 1: seems to get some buzz to play, and it certainly

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Speaker 1: got you to vote there accordingly. So there it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's go to the tweet sheet. Find

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Speaker 1: out what you think. Tweet sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills from and Eric says, just stay the course.

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Speaker 1: We had a championship team last year, drafted quality players

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Speaker 1: and got back some of our COVID opt outs back. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was basically star We don't need anyone special. I

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Speaker 1: am less concerned with how many are kept and more

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Speaker 1: with keeping the players we had coming into the season.

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Speaker 1: So Eric votes for the status quo, So I get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the status quo can be a tricky thing though, in

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Speaker 1: a league that is this competitive. The Bills standing patch, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Bills aren't going to be the same team they

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Speaker 1: were a year ago. They've got too many guys and

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Speaker 1: new guys up on the upfront. They've got too many

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Speaker 1: guys on the rookies on the offensive line, and on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line. They're gonna have different depth players we've

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Speaker 1: already seen. It looks like the tight end room is

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Speaker 1: going to be completely different. You've added a key piece

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Speaker 1: to the running back room, a key piece, and the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver starting group. If you go even as deep

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Speaker 1: as three wide, different backup quarterback. You know, the only

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Speaker 1: thing that's really been stable is the secondary in linebacking corps,

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Speaker 1: right and for the most part, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a different team. They're gonna look different.

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Speaker 1: And for as much as as excited as we were

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen when they get in the playoffs, even

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Speaker 1: though they you know, they took it on the chin

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Speaker 1: in Houston, you know, after being up sixteen to nothing

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Speaker 1: at halftime, it looked great and they lost that game.

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Speaker 1: And as optimistic as we were, the twenty twenty edition

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Speaker 1: of the team was vastly different than the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: playoff two. There's no reason to think this club isn't

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Speaker 1: going to be maybe not vastly different, but significantly different

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Speaker 1: in whatever how it looks, you know, particularly you can

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Speaker 1: see it defensively easy how it could happen. A lot

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Speaker 1: of the primetime players are the same. There is a

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Speaker 1: young core here that is probably going to be here

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Speaker 1: for a while, provided they can keep all of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about the Josh Allen's, the Tredevious Whites,

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Speaker 1: the Tremaine Edmunds, the Matt Milano's, the Dion Dawkins, you know,

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Speaker 1: even Dick's. I mean that the core of the team

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Speaker 1: is that, and that will probably be here and be

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Speaker 1: kept together for as long as possible or as least

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Speaker 1: as long as the camp allows. So that's going to

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Speaker 1: stay the same to a large degree. It's the end,

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Speaker 1: you know, the secondary pieces around those cornerstone players that

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Speaker 1: are going to morphin chance, just by virtue of how

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Speaker 1: this league operates with free agency and the cap, so

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Speaker 1: there will be change every year. Staying the course, though,

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Speaker 1: can be a dangerous thing in this league because if

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Speaker 1: you think we're good, we're good enough, other teams are

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Speaker 1: always doing things to look at what the Chiefs did

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Speaker 1: last year in this offseason, they went to this they

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Speaker 1: beat the Bills and went to their second straight Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They didn't win it. They've got four new starting offensive linemen,

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Speaker 1: including a rookie at center, a Pro Bowl talent, and

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Speaker 1: All Pro talent at guard, and they traded for a

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Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean standing Pat is not the Norman

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Speaker 1: this league, right, that's exactly right. The Bills opening day

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Speaker 1: roster that they're facing in Pittsburgh Steelers has four new

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Speaker 1: offensive line You've got some of these teams. They've got

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Speaker 1: four new offensive lineman. They spent a first round draft

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Speaker 1: pick on the probably the best running back in the

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Speaker 1: in the draft class. He's big, fast, and got all

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Speaker 1: that going for him. I'm with you, I don't you

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Speaker 1: don't know. We all think we know because we've seen

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Speaker 1: it a ton, but all of these teams are a

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Speaker 1: little bit different year to year, and you don't know

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Speaker 1: how it's going to be until you see this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this schedule roll out. The Buffalo Bills had a very

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Speaker 1: difficult schedule last year, a really tough schedule, and they

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Speaker 1: hung thirteen wins on it. That's huge. This year, it's

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Speaker 1: not so much that certainly there's some there's some tough teams,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks of the Chiefs and the Titans, and those

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Speaker 1: teams are on it along with the Patriots that are

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Speaker 1: going to better this year. But you don't know what's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like until after you see these teams take shape.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to see the Patriots team until the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season. You know, we're miles from that.

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Speaker 1: So it's easy to sit here and sit back and say,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is how this is gonna go. We

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Speaker 1: don't know. And these this fifty three man roster we're

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Speaker 1: talking about today and all the changes that are happening

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Speaker 1: on our roster as well as other rosters that we're

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Speaker 1: looking at the Chiefs roster for another what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna you know, what are the Chiefs gonna do? Any

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Speaker 1: of these teams gonna do if it doesn't work out.

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Speaker 1: They're guys that they got the brand, even the Bills.

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Speaker 1: If we got all these brand new guys, all a

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Speaker 1: sudden the season starts, it's like, oh, what happened? Well,

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Speaker 1: why don't you guys play better? I mean, you look

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Speaker 1: good in the preseason. What's going on? What's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: and it all depends on how the coaching staff reacts

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Speaker 1: and what these guys really are when they line up,

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Speaker 1: because we don't know. We think we know. Jim Mora,

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Speaker 1: you think you know, but you don't know. You don't

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Speaker 1: and you never will will O God, I miss He's

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Speaker 1: the best. That's one of the all time. Brand takes

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Speaker 1: break time for us when we come back more to

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Speaker 1: discuss on the bills impending fifty three man roster formation,

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Speaker 1: along with your comments on the tweet sheet and on

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Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three oh five fifty don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Coming up top of the hour about fifteen minutes from

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Speaker 1: now one Armando Saligherio to tell us what the hell

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Speaker 1: is going on in Miami? Is the Deshaun Watson rumbling real?

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Speaker 1: Along with a whole bunch of other stuff that's going

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Speaker 1: on with that squad. We'll delve into that as well.

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Speaker 1: Coming up here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you as we are

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Speaker 1: discussing fifty three man roster formation. So we move along

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Speaker 1: here and I do want to bring this to everybody's

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Speaker 1: attention because there is an opportunity here for some Bills

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Speaker 1: Steve and I have a couple of these pennants right here.

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Speaker 1: These are the mini pennants that you get handed just

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Speaker 1: to win one of ten framed pennants like this with

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Speaker 1: a player's signature on it. So they're small, but hey,

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Speaker 1: you got Josh Allen sign in this thing, or Tradevious

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Speaker 1: White or somebody and it's framed. There you go. That's

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Speaker 1: a nice thing to hang in your bill's man cave

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Speaker 1: on your wall. You know what I like about it

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Speaker 1: I can put that on the back of my surface here,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, do you do what you need

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Speaker 1: But as long as you know, you're good to go,

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Speaker 1: get out there and donate. I just did it back

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Speaker 1: in May. And I know some people might be concerned

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Speaker 1: about you know, COVID and everything, but these medical professionals,

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Speaker 1: they know exactly how to handle all this stuff. They've

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Speaker 1: been dealing with it for eighteen months. So donating blood

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Speaker 1: win an autograph pennant, So there you go. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: want to get back to the conversation though, which is

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Speaker 1: you will be happy if the Bills blank with the

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Speaker 1: roster fill in the lank for us. You can do

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Speaker 1: that at eight oh three five fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 1: sheet at one Bills Live, which is where we go now.

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Speaker 1: And Matt says, I will be happy if they keep

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Speaker 1: seven wide receivers and use Kumero as a tight end,

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Speaker 1: trade from depth, and acquire a playmaker. They could easily

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Speaker 1: do all three. It's easy, Steve, It's easy. McBean has

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Speaker 1: shown a willingness to be aggressive when necessary, and there

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a more wide open Super Bowl window for

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Speaker 1: Buffalo since the four straight trips in the nineties. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's discuss that, Steve, because I think the priorities in

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Speaker 1: terms of the roster decisions are different now than they

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Speaker 1: were two or three years ago. Have you have to

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Speaker 1: position your roster in such a way that everyone on

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Speaker 1: the roster can help you right now? If you've got

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Speaker 1: a young play that well right, But I'm what I

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Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is if you have a young

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Speaker 1: player who's on the come and it might help you

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Speaker 1: in week twelve, like you feel like, hey, if this

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Speaker 1: guy keeps on this currency, you might help us by

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Speaker 1: a week twelve. That guy's got to go on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad this year. You need all fifty three guys

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Speaker 1: on your active roster now that can help you right

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Speaker 1: now win football. Yeah, I get it, and that's true.

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Speaker 1: But you know you're with that kid who's gonna help

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Speaker 1: you in week twelve. You can still you're trying to say,

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Speaker 1: you can still beat the Dolphins on the way, you

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Speaker 1: can still be the team's on your schedule. You can

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Speaker 1: still win games with those guys on your roster. The

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Speaker 1: reason you need that guy in week twelves because somebody

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Speaker 1: might get hurt or whatever. It's a death piece or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because, yeah, this is a much different

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Speaker 1: roster than it was. And I've been reading through this

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Speaker 1: and like there's some people who cover the Raiders. They're

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Speaker 1: out there going, oh, yeah, this is great for the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: They're going to really be able to get some depth

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Speaker 1: off the waiver wire. Remember when the Bills did that.

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Speaker 1: Every year you're saying, wow, I hope we get somebody

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Speaker 1: really good off somebody else's who wasn't good enough to

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Speaker 1: make somebody else's team, Right that that's no way live.

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Speaker 1: It's no way to live. You're getting. You're not gonna

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00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: get Depthet. You're gonna get a guy who's filling a

855
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: roster spot. You're gonna get a guy that wasn't good

856
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: enough to even to make that other team's practice squad

857
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: to put on your fifty three man. You're not getting

858
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: anybody who's gonna make a huge difference that's gonna get

859
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: cut from some other team. They're out there for a reason. Now,

860
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: there are some players who are notable names in this

861
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: league that have been clipped. I mean, Cam Newton has one,

862
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: but what is he now? That can be debated eight

863
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: ways to Sunday. The Bears are releasing receiver Riley Ridley,

864
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: former fourth round pick. Obviously Calvin Ridley's younger brother, Riley

865
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: is not Calvin. I'll be the first to tell you

866
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: that interesting decision there. So DeVante Freeman, the former great Players,

867
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: now he was on the Bill's practice squad last year

868
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: and now he was Yeah, that's right, I got about that.

869
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: You know. So there's guys whose names you recognize, how there,

870
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: but they're out there and they're not even if they

871
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: come in and they give you one or two games

872
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: and then they're you know, then there I r for

873
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the year, you know, because they're not

874
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: durable enough. They've been beaten up too much, you know,

875
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton, they're just too many miles on them

876
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: to make it through a seventeen game schedule, eighteen game week,

877
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: eighteen weeks um. It's it's where the Bills lived for

878
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: so long during the drought years, where they were always

879
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: trying to you know, shore up a week roster at

880
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: some position group or two or three position groups with

881
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: guys who are cut from other teams for whatever reason.

882
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: And you know, they might be a great athlete and

883
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: great physical ability, but they can't you know, they couldn't

884
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: execute a play, a game plan, they couldn't work work

885
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: a technique, they couldn't figure out how to get out

886
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: of their own way. So it's a good spot to

887
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: be in if you're a Bills fan. And for a

888
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: long time we were never here but a roster that

889
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: it's really really deep and difficult to make it when

890
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: you got tough decisions to make all over the roster.

891
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: It's a great place to be and whatever happens in

892
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: the next day or two, the Bills are gonna hit

893
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: the season with a really strong fifty three man group,

894
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: really strong. Yeah, we have to take a break. When

895
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll find out what the hell's going

896
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: on in Miami. Armando Salgaro, our good friend and frequent

897
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: guest now writing for OutKick. We're gonna check in with him,

898
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: find out what's going on with two as they head

899
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: into the season, who might be lopped off the roster,

900
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: and where there's smoke is their fire concerning a Deshaun

901
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: Watson trade. We'll investigate with Armando next. Here on One

902
00:51:48,480 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

903
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

904
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

905
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

906
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Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy here, all right, welcome

907
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: to our number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

908
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you One Bills Live, talking fifty three

909
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: man roster formation with you, and we're also checking out

910
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the league, most notably the AFC East.

911
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: And we'll be talking to Armando Salguero shortly from OutKick

912
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: dot Com, NFL columnist for them, obviously worked for years

913
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: for the Miami Herald covering the Dolphins, and he actually

914
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: just put up a story this morning about how Belichick

915
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: has ripped the band aid off in New England at

916
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. If anybody was paying attention though, and

917
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: Urmand kind of points this out in his write up,

918
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: you're paying attention to how they performed in the preseason.

919
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: Mac Jones clearly outperformed Cam Newton, and then the extra

920
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: opportunity with the first team that Mac got last week

921
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: when Cam was out with the five day reentry period

922
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: after a COVID testing issue. I think at all that

923
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: was the last straw. But Armando is going to join

924
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: us now. And Armando, thanks for giving us some time.

925
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: It's good to see you, man. We usually get you

926
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: on the phone. We get you live and in color. Here.

927
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: This is great live and I'm living color and you.

928
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: I got my beverage can collection in the background. You

929
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: know what could I tell you? Yeah, Well, the AFC

930
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: East has taking a little turn. Cam Newton is now

931
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: out of the of the picture. It's now Mac Jones.

932
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to a tongue of elo and Josh Allen,

933
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: what is your take on what happened? We heard that.

934
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, you're right, Mac Jones looked good in the preseason,

935
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: and all we've been talking about is how bad Cam

936
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: looked all of last year and in this seat preseason.

937
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: Was it a surprise? Of course it was a surprise.

938
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, so Bill Belichick being Bill Belichick, he said

939
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: at the beginning of training camp, Cam is our starter. Okay,

940
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna take you at your word. Then Cam

941
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: took every first team practice reps in all the practices

942
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: that he participated in except one dual practice against the

943
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: New York Giants. Then Cam started every preseason game, and

944
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: obviously mac Jones came in with the second team or

945
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: the second union. So logic dictated that Bill Belichick was

946
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: thinking one guy is my starter, one guy is my backup,

947
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: and that's how I'm gonna roll, Except that Bill Belichick

948
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking that way. He was being Bill Belichick and

949
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: thinking who's better this or who has been better this preseason?

950
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: The answer was Mac Jones. Mac Jones had nine drives

951
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He had five touchdowns and four field goals.

952
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: Every drive that mac Jones played in in the preseason

953
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: resulted in points. That's the reason Mac Jones is the

954
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for the New England Patriots. He was just

955
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: better than Cam Newton, right, And I do recall Belichick

956
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: at one point in the off season saying that Cam

957
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: Newton is the starter. Somebody will have to outperform him

958
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: to change that. So he left the door open, I

959
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: guess in that fashion. So yeah, I mean, we watched

960
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: a lot of Cam, probably too much of him last

961
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: year because it was god awful. I mean, the team

962
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: he had eight passing time touchdowns and ten picks last year,

963
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: and everybody was attributing it to brain fog coming off

964
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: a COVID and all of this stuff, new system. I

965
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: just really felt like people were making excuses for a

966
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: guy whose game was no longer at its peak. I mean,

967
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: maybe you chalk up some of those things to performance

968
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: he had last year, but I mean, and while he

969
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: was marginally better, maybe this summer I was convinced that

970
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: he was no longer starting caliber in this league. Well

971
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: you know what's funny is and people are not even

972
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: talking about this. Maybe he wasn't starting caliber anymore. But

973
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: you have to understand the Patriots cut him. They didn't

974
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: just say Cam, you're not as good as our starter,

975
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: you're our backup. They said, Cam, you're not our starter,

976
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer is our backup. Goodbye. And so that to

977
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: me is a little it's more than a little interesting

978
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: because it speaks to Cam's popularity in the locker room.

979
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 1: He is a leader on that team, and I don't

980
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: think that Belichick wanted that shadow on Mac Jones and

981
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: number two. You know, you can't overstate the fact that

982
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: Cam had a COVID Protocol MISSQ misunderstanding, as they said,

983
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: and he was away from the team for five days,

984
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: and that gave him a preview of what could happen

985
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: if there's another misunderstanding during the season. Suddenly your starting

986
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: quarterback or your backup quarterback is away from the team

987
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: for five days and you're you find yourself in some

988
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: serious trouble. I think that also played a factor, because

989
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots were not happy that there was that misunder standing. Now,

990
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: obviously it could have been as well that Cam Newton,

991
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: being the player of his stature, might have said, Hey,

992
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: if I'm not gonna be the starter, released me. He

993
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: could have asked for we've had none of that reported

994
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: at all. Maybe it'll come out later, but as of now,

995
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: you're right. They just said listen, you're not on the team,

996
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: probably for the exact reason you said. They don't want

997
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback looking over the shoulder of the rookie quarterback.

998
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: They're trying to groom and give the team to What

999
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: this does set us up for is an intriguing Week

1000
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: one matchup between two Atonga Ioloa and mac Jones, two

1001
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: guys who were in the same quarterback room at Alabama

1002
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: two years ago. And what do you think this is

1003
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna look like when these two teams meet in Week one?

1004
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna look like a jailbreak by the defenses. I

1005
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: know that the Dolphins are gonna come after Mac Jones

1006
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: with all their funky, exotic blitzes that they might conjure.

1007
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: And my guess is that the Paytriots will do the

1008
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: same to Tua because they did it last year and

1009
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: it worked for the most part. And so until Ta

1010
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: Tonga Vloa beats the blitz beats the pressure from the

1011
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: New England defense beats the disguises, he's gonna see more

1012
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: of them, and again the Dolphins are gonna do the

1013
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: same thing to to, you know, Mac Jones, because they

1014
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: did it last year to every young quarterback they faced.

1015
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: In fact, they've done it the last couple of years,

1016
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: regardless of the fact that in twenty nineteen they really

1017
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: didn't have the talent to make it work. The philosophy

1018
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: was still in effect. Right, So let's let's shift to

1019
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: the other side of that Week one matchup in a

1020
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: team you know very well. So the Dolphins, by all accounts,

1021
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Tuas had a nice summer, nice preseason, has taken steps

1022
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: with his personal game, looks healthier, hip looks better, and

1023
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: terms of driving his hip into the football with his delivery.

1024
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: And yet there are these smoldering embers of trade talks

1025
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson that are bubbling up to the surface

1026
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: here now right as the fifty three man rosters being formed. Now,

1027
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: the latest you know we're hearing from some of the

1028
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: national reporters is that Watson's going to stay on their

1029
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster in Houston for now. My first question, Armando,

1030
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: is how much legitimacy do you give to these trade talks?

1031
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Number one, because it's been reported by multiple people. And

1032
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: then number two, what are they doing here? This I

1033
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: mean the optics of this. I understand the upgrade at

1034
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: the position, but the optics with all the off the

1035
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: field stuff is just awful. Yeah, And that's how Dolphin

1036
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: fans feel. By the way. They don't like the idea

1037
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson replacing two A Tonga VLA. They hate

1038
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: it as a matter of fact. Okay, but the Miami

1039
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans don't run the organization. And so it is true.

1040
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: And I have reported that number one, the Dolphins have

1041
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: been in discussions with the Houston Texans about Deshaun Watson,

1042
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: even during this very training camp. We knew that it

1043
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: had happened in the offseason, but it's happened during training camp,

1044
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: and so that has happened. That is true. What is

1045
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: also true is that the Houston Texans, I mean, I

1046
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: don't get them. They're they're conducting themselves as if Deshaun

1047
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: Watson did not have twenty two civil cases alleging sexual

1048
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: impropriety pending. They are acting as if Deshaun Watson is

1049
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: not been invested being investigated by the FBI. They are

1050
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: acting as if Deshaun Watson does not have ten pending

1051
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: criminal complaints in Harris County in Texas, and they're acting

1052
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: as if there is not a grand jury investigation also pending.

1053
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: So they're acting like Deshaun Watson is a great quarterback

1054
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: and that's it, and do you want to trade for him?

1055
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: When the truth is DeShawn Robson Watson is a great quarterback,

1056
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: but he's got a lot of baggage, a lot of problems,

1057
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: all of them legal, most many of them civil. It's

1058
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: the Texans want to be treated like there's only part

1059
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: of that that's true. And as long as that's the case,

1060
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to trade Deshaun Watson. And

1061
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: what does it Yeah, what does it say about the Dolphin?

1062
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: Is this some sort of nod to the fact that

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01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: somebody in the organization doesn't like ta I mean, what

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: are they as this an admission that they got the

1065
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: wrong guy in that draft, that they don't think they

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01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: can win with him. I mean, I get it, Deshaun

1067
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: Watson is an upgrade over a lot of guys in

1068
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: the league. But when you make this kind of statement

1069
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: after twelve months, after a number five overall pick and tuah,

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01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: what are you saying? Well, tangibly, they're not saying anything right,

1071
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: because yeah, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah. Private publicly,

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: they're not even acknowledging that they're showing up for the

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: season opener. They're not. They're this her medically sealed organization

1074
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: that is not going to give you any quarter or

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: any information. So let's say that privately, it's clear that

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01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: they have seen, to a tongue of by law practice,

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: they have seen him play. They are aware what his

1078
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: demeanor and what his conduct is within the building. They

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: know the extra stuff that it takes to be a

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01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: great quarterback, the processing, how quickly he learned stuff, what

1081
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: kind of questions he asks in meeting, what his retention is,

1082
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: what his leadership is. They have seen all these things,

1083
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: and they think that they could do better if they

1084
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: have Deshaun Watson. That's clear. Forget the fact that Deshaun

1085
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: Watson has a status that is legally, you know, tenuous.

1086
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: Were it not for that, Let's face it, Deshaun Watson's

1087
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: a better quarterback than to a tongue of by law there.

1088
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone. I haven't talked to anyone who

1089
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: would argue that point with me, and I doubt YouTube

1090
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: gentlemen are not going to do it either. And what

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01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: it says about the Dolphins is they're exploring. They're you know,

1092
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: they're exploring their options, and if that option includes upgrading

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01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: at quarterback, they're gonna try and do it. I will

1094
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: say this talking to people around the NFL, no one

1095
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: fears the Miami Dolphins. They respect the Miami Dolphins. They

1096
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: think the Miami Dolphins are a team in a scent improving.

1097
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: But with twoa before here we are, before we start

1098
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: the regular season of twenty twenty one, no one fears

1099
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: that team. The Miami Dolphins with Deshaun Watson, that's a

1100
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: team to be reckoned with now because they've got a

1101
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: top five defense and now they've got a top ten

1102
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and off we go. Right. Yeah, I get all that,

1103
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: but as you said, there's just a ton of baggage there.

1104
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and I know we've talked about this

1105
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: with you before, Armando. We talked about Flores jettisoning five

1106
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: of the eight captains from last year's rosters, players that

1107
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: were supposed to come in and help cultivate the culture

1108
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: that he was trying to institute. There. They just cut

1109
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 1: the guy that they acquired in the shack Lawson trade.

1110
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: So they got nothing to show for that except dead

1111
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: cap from shack Lawson, the co coordinator issue on offense,

1112
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: there's a number of things here that I haven't even

1113
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: scratched the surface on. Then you know better than we do.

1114
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: And then there's the oh, by the way, the first

1115
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: five week gauntlet of a schedule that they've got to face.

1116
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna lump on top of that this cloud

1117
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: of a Deshaun Watson possibility. Just you can't tell me

1118
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: that's not a distraction, especially for Tua of all people.

1119
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he might say the right things publicly, but

1120
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, if this team stubs its toe out

1121
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: of the gate at oh and two, one and three,

1122
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and you still have the Watson

1123
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: cloud hanging over, I mean, this is a thing that

1124
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: could go sideways in a hurry. I know what you're saying,

1125
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: and I don't disagree with what you're saying. On the

1126
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: other hand, and trust me on this, If the Miami

1127
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins were a veteran team, if they were a team

1128
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: of family men with children who are grizzled veterans who

1129
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: think for themselves, I'd say all of that is true

1130
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: and possibly a problem. The Miami Dolphins today are still

1131
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: one of the youngest NFL teams that there is. Most

1132
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: of their guys are first, second and third year guys.

1133
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: Their oldest player, I think, is like thirty one or

1134
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: thirty three, something like that, and he's the one guy

1135
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: on the roster, mccordy, who is over thirty. They don't

1136
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: have anybody else over thirty. These guys are They do

1137
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: what they're told, They believe what they're told, generally speaking,

1138
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: and they believe. There is a culture within the Dolphins

1139
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: of it's us and it's them, and we believe us

1140
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: and in us, and everything the them people are saying

1141
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: is not true. Don't think about it, don't pay attention

1142
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: to it. It's it's noise. And that's why the Dolphins

1143
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 1: can get away with, you know, the whole flirtation with

1144
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, because you know, the coach can say, guys,

1145
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: it's us against them. Believe me, I'm telling you. We're

1146
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: good to us our guy, and you're not distracted, and

1147
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: they it works for them, and you know, I guess

1148
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: it's one of the one of the dividends of being

1149
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: a young team and having a very young roster. You

1150
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: can tell them. You know, they all have an opinion

1151
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: after they're told what that opinion is, right, Is that

1152
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: part of the reason a guy, like a veteran player

1153
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: like ben Nerrick McKinney gets gets let go or was

1154
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: he he was from what I understand, was playing as

1155
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: a starters number one he was released and you know

1156
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: they're elevating other guys. Is was that part of the

1157
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: reason that some of the purge took place in this

1158
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: last offseason. They just wanted to get younger and have

1159
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: guys that were more willing to buy in because they

1160
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: didn't know any better well as to McKinney. So they

1161
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: traded shack La Husson, who you guys are familiar with,

1162
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: for McKinney. And the first practice that I witnessed, the

1163
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: guy can't cover. He just couldn't cover. He's terrible covering,

1164
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean like terrible, terrible. So you have a starting

1165
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: inside linebacker who is a one down linebacker, right, and

1166
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: a one down linebacker a run linebacker in a passing league.

1167
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: So my friend, mister McKinney, off you go, because you're

1168
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: not gonna be on the field very often. Maybe you

1169
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: know eighteen twenty five plays a game, and we're not

1170
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 1: gonna pay you your three million dollars, which, by the way,

1171
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: we cut from seven million dollars because we realized you're

1172
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 1: not a three down linebacker, you're a part time player.

1173
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: So that's one reason. The other reason is, you know,

1174
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,520
Speaker 1: they got to land in Roberts, who's gonna be healthy.

1175
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: Sam agua Van had a game where he had like

1176
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: nineteen tackles, and so he won the backup role, and

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: so McKinney's gone. The fallout include, yes, one less veteran

1178
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: that isn't gonna be thinking for himself in the locker room.

1179
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: But there were actual football reasons for that cut. Yeah right.

1180
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: Heck they might look at it as a plus on

1181
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: the culture side too, based on what Urmanda was telling

1182
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: us already, what do you I know, you're much closer

1183
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: to this than we are. So that's why I want

1184
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: to ask this because Steve and I kind of wonder,

1185
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, we see all of these things come down

1186
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: the wires. This guy's getting clipped, this guy's getting moved,

1187
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: this guy's off the roster. They're pursuing this, you know,

1188
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 1: troubled off the field quarterback, and it just comes across

1189
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,520
Speaker 1: to us as a very kind of knee jerk reaction

1190
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: kind of philosophy, which kind of runs counter to the

1191
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: way maybe some of the more stable organizations in this

1192
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: league operate. Is it viewed that way in Miami? Maybe

1193
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: we're just overthinking it here. I'm just curious with you know,

1194
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: boots on the ground there, if it if it resonates

1195
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: differently in Miami than it might on the outside. You know, Chris,

1196
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: I think prospective is important. You have to understand, the

1197
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins have not won a playoff game since December

1198
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: of two thousand. December of two thousand, people have been born,

1199
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: started kindergarten, graduated high school, and went to college and

1200
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: they've never seen a Miami Dolphins playoff victory. So the

1201
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: fan base is that has suffered through that and experienced that.

1202
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: They're just eager and hungry for whatever might happen. They're

1203
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: a fan base that the Dolphins told them in twenty nineteen.

1204
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: You know, well they didn't tell them, but they did

1205
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: in fact tank in twenty nineteen because we're gonna start

1206
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: all over from scratch and it's gonna be different. And

1207
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: last year they were ten and six, so that fan

1208
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: base so far believes that the current building process, such

1209
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: as it is, is succeeding because they they revamped the

1210
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: whole they tore the whole thing down in nineteen, went

1211
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: got to ten and six last year, and they're expecting

1212
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: that this year is going to be a big, big

1213
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: jump from that to the point where they're in the

1214
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: playoffs and maybe making noise in the playoffs. It's hard

1215
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: to get people off of that. I know that from

1216
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: afar you're looking at it like, well, this doesn't fit

1217
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: the Buffalo mold where they went from point A to

1218
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: point B to point C to point B and then

1219
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,520
Speaker 1: there was progress at every point and it was logical

1220
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: and it made sense and we saw what they were doing.

1221
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: The Dolphins aren't like that. The Dolphins aren't we're here,

1222
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: we're there, we're over here, and we're over there. But

1223
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: their fancy that, you know, five and eleven, ten and six.

1224
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: The question is twenty twenty one, where did they go

1225
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: from ten and six? If they improve, if they make

1226
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs, that kind of wild zigzag thing that they're doing, hey,

1227
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna say it working. It's giving a cat by

1228
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:15,879
Speaker 1: a different way. Uh, you know, and obviously if it doesn't.

1229
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: If they have regression, if they regress to mean, then

1230
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: people will understand that's not the way you do it.

1231
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: Last one for me, what are they gonna do? How

1232
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: does their first round draft pick, Jaylen Phillips, how's he playing?

1233
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: What's he looked like? Jaylen Waddle? What's he what's he

1234
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: looked like? Well, I mean, you know, Jayalen Waddle is

1235
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 1: he's healthy, He's okay. And Jalen Phillips, who was another

1236
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: first round draft pick who's not been good as Gregory Rousseau.

1237
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: In the preseason, both from the University of Miami, he

1238
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: was injured most of the time. He got to play

1239
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: in the preseason finale. He'll probably be a starter on

1240
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: this team. But as far as the preseason is concerned,

1241
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't one where people go, oh my god, this

1242
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: guy's a revelation. So he's got a ways to go.

1243
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: And the weird thing about the Dolphins and their system

1244
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: is they don't ask their They asked their linebackers to

1245
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: do a lot of things, including cover Jalen Phillips at

1246
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: the University in Miami, was you know, a down hand

1247
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: in the dirt defensive end who went after the quarterback

1248
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: and that's what he did very well. They're asking him

1249
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: to cover about forty percent of the time. So his

1250
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: stats on the sack thing, they're not gonna be you know,

1251
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen sacks, it's not gonna be that. A really

1252
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: good season for him might be six six sacks. Sounds

1253
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: like they're miscasting him almost. Well, it's the New England

1254
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: Patriots way. Okay, it's it's their defense. It's what they've

1255
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 1: done with Danta high Tower and other guys throughout the years. Um,

1256
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: it won six Super Bowls. So yeah, it's hard to

1257
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: convince Brian Flores, who was part of that New England

1258
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: you know, culture and teens and has Super Bowl rings,

1259
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: that it's wrong. Yeah. All right, Armando, thank thank you

1260
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: very much for the time as always and for filling

1261
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: us in. We'll we'll see these guys in week two.

1262
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: Week two. All right, that's Armando Salgaro joining us OutKick

1263
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: dot Com columnist. I'm sorry, Steve, I cut you off

1264
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: on Jalen Phillips and you were one hundred percent right.

1265
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: I had Jalen Wattle on the brain. They have both

1266
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: of them. Um, that is a game that's not that's

1267
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: not a good idea. Man, Let the kid do what

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Speaker 1: he does best. What are you doing? Jayleen Phillips was

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Speaker 1: on the board, or it was on the on the

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Speaker 1: board with in the same team with Greg Rousseau. Rousseau

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Speaker 1: opted out last year and then he played together in

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Speaker 1: a sack and Jalen Phillips came in and just took

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Speaker 1: right over for took his number. The same guy. They're

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Speaker 1: both you know, um, Jaylen Phillips six five, two seventy

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Speaker 1: five guys, big dude killed it in the workout, really

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01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: really a good looking pro prospect. And now you know,

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Speaker 1: you heard what Armando said. He said he has not

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Speaker 1: looked as good as Rousseau in the preseason. And Rousseau

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01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: was the guy that was two years ago, had fifteen

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Speaker 1: and a half sacks and opted out and and uh

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: he's put on twenty pounds since then and now he

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 1: is he's the Bills guy. But in the three four system, Phillips,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't think he can set the

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01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: edge as a five technique, well then okay, I understand

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Speaker 1: why you want to put him an outside linebacker. But

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01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: as Armando said, this is a league where you gotta

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: cover even if you're an outside pass rusher guy, and

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: some I thought he was a hand on the ground guy,

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01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 1: so did six five and a half. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why you wouldn't put him at five technique where he

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: would be fast. Yeah, for a position player like that,

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01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: he's got enough size. They may do that, but I

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01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to. He can't play in reverse.

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01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: He can't do it. They did. They made the same

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01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: mistake with Shaq Lawson. That's why he got traded a

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01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: year later. They took a power rusher and tried to

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Speaker 1: put him an outside linebacker. It didn't work. They're making

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: the same mistake all over again. I'm not even a

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: scout and I can see that the hell is wrong

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: with this team. Let's just pray that it continues. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's good for the Bills. They gotta go

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01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: get it down. It's not great because listen, they're doing

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01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: something right down there. Because they had a number one

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01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: defense last year. They're gonna be really good defensively, and

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01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna be really good defensively upfront. It's gonna be

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01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: one of the strengths of their team. Mac and Jayleen

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01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: Phillips is gonna be a part of that. They're gonna

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01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: they're probably trying, and I get it too, if he's

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01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy they're gonna depend on. They put

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Speaker 1: him out there in the preseason and they'll have him

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: doing everything possible to see what he can and cannot do. Now,

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01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: they may not ask him to do any of that

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01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: stuff in the ular season. They may slide him into

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: defensive end inside on another outside linebacker. They could do

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01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: all of that. But so I'm I'm that doesn't really

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01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: get to me what they did with him in the preseason,

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: because that's what you do. You find out what your

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01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 1: guys can and cannot do. So Jaylen Phillips is intriguing

1319
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: to me because he was one of those guys that

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01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: it was like Rousseau and Phillips and these guys that

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01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 1: were available. It's a defensive end that may be available

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01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: for the Bills at thirty. So there you have it,

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Speaker 1: all right. Interesting. I don't want to give him the

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01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, but I guess we'll play the

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01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: wait and see game because the Bills are going to

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01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: see them very early in Week two. We have to

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Speaker 1: take a break here when we come back. More of

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the tweet sheet. You will be happy

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Speaker 1: if the Bills do what with their roster. Choices are

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01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: there for you at one Bills Live, or you can

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Speaker 1: give us a call. Eight oh three, five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty Steve and I

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Speaker 1: back in a sec here on One Bills Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Collid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: second half of the show underway here on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you One Bills Live. Here

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Speaker 1: with you till three. As we are on roster cutdown

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01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: day and we're awaiting the official release of the new

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: roster for the Bills for the twenty twenty one season.

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Speaker 1: And I'll remind our listeners and viewers again that the

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01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster we see today should not be

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Speaker 1: considered finalized. We often see shuffling due to injury, other

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01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: designations that become available to a team after the fifty

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 1: three man roster is set that offer more flexible options

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: than before. So there's a very good chance that the

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01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster we see later today after the

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01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: four pm deadline is not the same roster you're going

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01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: to see going into the season opener on Sunday, September twelfth, right,

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01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: I think the only differences will be at the back

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01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 1: end of the bottom two or three guys in the roster.

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01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: Nobody of consequence on the starting offense or defense is

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: going to be tinkered with, and it'll be probably guys

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01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: after today and tomorrow will be the guys that will

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01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: be inactive on Week one. Nevertheless, it's going to continue,

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: and I've seen it, and I sat down with a

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01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: couple of head coach back in my days with CBS.

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01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: We'd sit down with these guys and they talk about

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01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: the guys they're bringing in. When teams constantly churn the

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01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: bottom five six spots on their roster, depending on the

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01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: position of how they're spread out, even on the practice

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01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: squad as well, they'll bring That's why they bring guy

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01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: Tuesdays the big day in the NFL, because they travel

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01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: free agent players in, guys who are available to be signed,

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01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: and they work them out and if the guy, if

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01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 1: they get this guy in here and they think, wow,

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01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: this guy rings all the bells on these physical tests.

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01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: He's fast, he's strong, he's big. Look at him, and

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Speaker 1: he's an athlete. He can run the cone drill. It's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he's a much better athlete than this

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01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: guy over here who's not gonna play for us. Let's

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: sign him. Cut this guy, and we'll get better athletically

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of our roster. And maybe we can

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: get this guy to cover kicks for us, and if

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01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: we get into a bind, his athleticism will be better

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01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And we're just gonna keep doing

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01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: that at the bottom of our roster and hopefully we

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Speaker 1: get a guy who things clicked for with our coaching staff,

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01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we got this guy. That's

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Speaker 1: what they do all the time. That's Tuesdays in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like, I don't know. It's

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01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 1: like the buffet, right, the food is gone ten minutes

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01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: before the buffet is supposed to open up, right, he

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: gets there early. That's what happens on Tuesdays. You get

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: these guys and the good ones get signed, and then

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Speaker 1: if you get a guy that you know about, you

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01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: you bring him in and you look at him. We

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Speaker 1: have been trying to follow the various reports, both nationally

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01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: and locally of some of the players that have reportedly

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: been moved off the roster to get the team down

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01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: to the required fifty three by four pm this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: and among some of the names are some tight ends,

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Speaker 1: including Jacob Hollister, which was reported by a national reporter,

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01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: and then Nate Becker, who's been on the practice squad

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01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, also listed as a player release,

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01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: and Quentin Morris, the undrafted rookie at the position. I

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Speaker 1: think this reflects very favorably on one player We've discussed

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01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: a lot Steve, a multi positional player by the name

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01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: of Reggie Gilliam, as a very good chance he now

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Speaker 1: makes the roster with all of these other tight ends

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01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: lopped off. Yeah, it's been he has been a reporter

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01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: that he's probably going to make it well by process

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01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: of elimination, right, I mean, he's probably on there. It

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01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: looks so, I mean it's basically Dawson Knox, Tommy Sweeney

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Speaker 1: and Gilliam's right. That's right, which is something that we

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Speaker 1: had bandied about last week when we were doing Rostersson

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Speaker 1: end not only here on the show, but on our podcast,

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01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Light, and we mentioned this very scenario. What

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01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam offers you is a guy that's capable of

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Speaker 1: playing fullback but can also double as a tight end

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01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: for you, and his presence on the roster might allow

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Speaker 1: you to carry fewer tight ends. And it looks like,

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Speaker 1: at least at the outset, that may very well be

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Speaker 1: what happens. It gets you to the point where, okay,

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Speaker 1: what happens. If you get into a dog fight where

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Speaker 1: you need to run the football and run it in

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01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: a physical manner with a big, heavy set of guys,

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Speaker 1: you go in. And the Bills did this in the

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Speaker 1: preseason game against the Green Bay. They'd brought in three

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01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: offensive they had two tight ends or three tight ends

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Speaker 1: on the field, had an extra offensive lineman, one wide

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Speaker 1: out or two backs, one wide out in two backs,

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01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: so they were in like twenty three personnel I guess,

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01:24:52,080 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: and had zero either one wide out or zero. So

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Speaker 1: when they go heavy like that, when they want to

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01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: run it and get physically and get big against a

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Speaker 1: team that's got like a nickel defensive back on the

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Speaker 1: field or something, they want to be able to do it.

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Speaker 1: But you usually use tight ends because then you have

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01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: the semblance if you could break the formation and spread

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: those guys out and run pass plays, if you got.

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01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: If you use offensive linemen for that, that's not a

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01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: matchup win for you. If you if you break the formation.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you put Spencer Spencer Brown out there

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01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: as a tight end, split him out. They could put

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01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: a defensive end out there, and you're athletically okay. In

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01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: their mind, it's a thing where you want to be

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 1: as flexible as you can with a few with a

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01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: small amount of tight ends on the roster and one

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01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: of them being a full back slash tight end slash

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: running back and limits you. Yeah. Plus, we don't know

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,799
Speaker 1: the condition of Tommy Sweety's foot injury. He hasn't played

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Speaker 1: and either of the last two preseason games, hasn't practiced,

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01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: And we know a foot injury was a problem last

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: year that led to surgery coming into camp last year.

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01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: Well that yeah, do initially to his foot injury and

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01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: then secondarily to covid um. But yeah, and you know

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01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: who's you know who's in a similar boat on the

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball to that of Reggie gilliam

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Siran Neil. Yeah, right corner where the safety maybe even

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01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: a hybrid linebacker type if they want to put that

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01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: on his plate. He's a guy much like Reggie Gilliam,

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01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: who can be somewhat of a Swiss Army knife, and

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01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: that has value, and both of those guys have special

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01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: teams value. Right. The versatility is what the team looks for.

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01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: But it's not just the fact that they can line

1456
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: up and take up space either they want to, they

1457
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: gotta be good at it. They gave Reggie Gilliam a

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01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 1: chance to play tailback in the game against the Bears.

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01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: The Bears, and he's okay, I mean, he's not gonna

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01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: outrun people, but he does weigh two hundred and forty pounds.

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna bowls some people over. Pretty good short yardage guy.

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01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: And for a guy who was a has been a

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01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 1: tight end as well, you know, he's got certain gifts

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01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: that he can bring to the table there. So he's

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01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: got a it's not just that the guy's a tweener.

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Speaker 1: He's gotta be really good tweener. He's gotta be really

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01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: good at one and really good at the other, either

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01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: really good at one and okay at the other, or

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01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: vice versa, or pretty good at both of them, good

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Speaker 1: enough to win on certain Sundays. And if you can

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Speaker 1: find a guy like that, yeah, he makes the team.

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01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: Gillian will play some special teams as well, So he's

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: going to give you a lot of quality snaps all

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01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: over the field, which is great because then it lets

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01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: you go like two and what two and a half

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01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: tight ends? Sweeney knocks Gillian slash running back. That's it.

1477
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: That's all he got left on the roster unless we

1478
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: moved to choice C on the pole. Steve Well, I

1479
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: would be happy if the Bills added a surprise contributor.

1480
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: It's leading the voting. Do our listeners and viewers know

1481
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: something we don't know? You know, who's got some tight

1482
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: ends that might be interesting for the Bills to look

1483
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: at if they're not gonna all make the team as

1484
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Oh you like them? Huh yeah. The

1485
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham's got a fat price Jimmy Graham's got a

1486
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: fat price tag. But they got two or three guys

1487
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: playing behind him. They're both they're like, there's six seven

1488
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: two whatever. Whatever. Gold Comeet is making the team, right,

1489
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: he's there. He'll be their starter. But you know teams

1490
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 1: like that who have a type of type of white

1491
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: of tight end or a type of position player, and

1492
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 1: they're all the same much like the Bills with aj

1493
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau and uh and the rest those long guys

1494
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: like f the Obada. They got a bunch of guys

1495
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: of a type which means got You know, teams are

1496
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: kind of standing in line looking at the Bills, going, Hey,

1497
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna You're gonna need all those guys.

1498
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: You know. One same thing the Bills could do with

1499
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 1: a team like Chicago, who's got a like three six seven,

1500
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: two fifty five pound tight ends, Cole Commet, Jimmy Graham,

1501
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Jesse James J. P Holtz, jessper Horstead, who had that

1502
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: circus catch in the last preseason? Did you see that

1503
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: cats that kid made? I did not, And the Bears

1504
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: preseed basically made it behind his head with one hand

1505
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: and like waiter at a restaurant, carried it around to

1506
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: him to the front of his body with one hand

1507
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: and then ran to the end zone. Yeah. Get that

1508
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: guy right, he's not gonna make it. Hey, don't overlook

1509
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: Scooter Harrington. What I'm saying is those guys are out there,

1510
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: and if one team like the Bears, got like nineteen

1511
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: of them, they can only use three of them, might

1512
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: be able to get Jasper Horstead, right, why not? That's

1513
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: the that's the thought. Now, listen, that's the type that

1514
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: the Bills have too built. Tommy Sweeney, Dawson Knox are

1515
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: really they're like Josh Allen Tall. So that's kind of

1516
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: the guy they're looking for. And the Bills played those

1517
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: guys in the preseason. Jessper Horstead is six three and

1518
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: a half. It's not big enough. Okay, Well, I'm sorry,

1519
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Jack, give me the Jesse James guy. Well,

1520
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they, depending on what the

1521
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: cap hit is. And I didn't look it up to know,

1522
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: because Jimmy Graham is Jimmy Graham millions. Yes, he's like

1523
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: and he's thirty four. He's up there, yeah, so I

1524
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: think thrown overboard. He gets thrown overboard. Then he's not

1525
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: making anything, right, So there you go. Does he want

1526
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: to play? Yeah, I don't know. We have to take

1527
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: a break here. When we come back, more of your

1528
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet and we'll see if there

1529
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 1: are any other names trickling out that have been released

1530
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: by teams around the NFL. When we return here on

1531
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Kalid to health. It's Buffalo

1532
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown,

1533
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Steve Jasker with you and in an example of some

1534
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: of the roster shoveling I was just talking about last segment.

1535
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: According to NFL Networks Tom Pelisero, the Saints are releasing

1536
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Simeon, former starter for the Broncos, but they

1537
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: plan to bring him back later in the week after

1538
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: the rosters settle, so he's in line to essentially be

1539
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: the number two quarterback, knowing they're going to be using

1540
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill as kind of a do everything offensive player

1541
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: while Jameis Winston starts, so Simeon, the more conventional number

1542
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: two quarterback is the plan, but he's not going to

1543
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: be on their roster right away, and there's talk from

1544
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Mike Arrafolo that the Saints may do the same thing

1545
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: with wide receiver Chris Hogan, not put him on their

1546
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,560
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, initially feeling that the risk of

1547
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: losing him is minimal out on the open market, and

1548
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: then when they figure out some of their injuries, it's

1549
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 1: like they may have a couple of injured players too

1550
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: that they want to put on i R for three weeks.

1551
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: They don't have a roster spot for Hogan now, but

1552
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: as soon as they name the injured player to the

1553
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: fifty three minute roster or twenty four days later, they

1554
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: move them to IR. Now they have a roster spot available.

1555
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: They signed Chris Hogan again. Bippity poppity boot bippity bopp

1556
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: that's right, all simple and nice everything and is a

1557
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: place for everything and everything in his place. There you go,

1558
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: very nicely done. So there's that going on across the league.

1559
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: It's it's roster gymnastics, for lack of a better term.

1560
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: That's really what it is. The Only thing that you

1561
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: can really do is wait till all the dust settles,

1562
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 1: and then you know who they really liked, you know,

1563
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: because if they cut this guy to day, all of

1564
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: a sudden, oh he's back, it's like, oh they didn't

1565
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 1: like him, Oh they did like him, right, Same thing

1566
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: with the practice squad. And then the interesting thing is

1567
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: who they look around for and they released. You know,

1568
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: you're you're looking down the list of guys we've been

1569
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: who've been reported to be released, and he got guys

1570
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: like Cam Lewis, Josh Thomas, I'm talking about the defensive backs.

1571
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: You know those guys and you know Tim Harris. Tomorrow

1572
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: they bring them back. They bring like, they bring Tim

1573
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: Harris back and the other two guys are gone for good,

1574
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: and they bring two other guys in. That that's when

1575
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: you go, oh, wow, I didn't. I didn't see that coming.

1576
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't because those guys have been around,

1577
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, like Josh Thomas and Cam Lewis. I thought

1578
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: they were gonna actually make the fifty three and now

1579
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: they're not even on the practice squad and they brought

1580
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: these two other guys in. That's when you finally get

1581
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: a glimpse into Oh, I see they didn't really those

1582
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: guys weren't. They weren't part of the plan. They're still

1583
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: they're still looking. So that's when you find things out.

1584
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's ever gonna happen. These guys may

1585
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: be back there on the practice squad or even on

1586
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: the fifty three tomorrow who we can't tell. But as

1587
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: an example, when that roster's finally set and when that

1588
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: practice squad is finally set, that's when you really get

1589
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: concrete evidence of who they did, like during training camp,

1590
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: who did have a good training camp, who did all

1591
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: the little things that they were looking for better than

1592
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: the other guys. So up until that happens, we're guessing

1593
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 1: we are, Steve. We were talking about the Dolphins seeming

1594
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: compulsion to pursue Deshaun Watson via trade, and now Pro

1595
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: Football Talk is reporting that, according to a league source,

1596
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: owner Stephen Ross quote really wants the Texans quarterback for now. However,

1597
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Texans have been unable to reach a deal.

1598
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: So you suspected that this was owner driven, and it

1599
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,520
Speaker 1: appears to be the case. Now what was also reportedly

1600
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: owner driven was drafting ta I'm gonna go down this

1601
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 1: road again. You gotta well owners, Stephen Ross has turned

1602
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: into John Elway. You got it right. It's still swinging

1603
01:34:55,200 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. You who knows better than buff people. You

1604
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 1: gotta have that guy. Yes, nothing else matters. You're if

1605
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: you don't have the guy taking snaps that you can

1606
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: win with. The entire organization is focused on finding him.

1607
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: Everybody in the organization, by hook or crook, finding that guy.

1608
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: And that includes a guy who's on another team who

1609
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 1: is neck deep in off field controversy and controversy to

1610
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: put it mildly like he's he's got more baggage than

1611
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 1: O'Hara Airport right now. I mean, this guy is like

1612
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: untouchable from almost everybody and this, and it's like, how

1613
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: can we get him? That's it's not PFT. Report says

1614
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: Ross's desire to get de Seaun likely will not wayne

1615
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: unless Taga Voloa becomes a franchise quarterback this year. Wow, Like,

1616
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm just I understand the talent, the level of talent

1617
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: you're dealing with, it's unquestionably an upgrade. But for me,

1618
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 1: there is too much stuff around the guy that just

1619
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 1: here's the thing that I don't know if many people

1620
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: have considered the Dolphins have a lot of minority owners,

1621
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 1: one of whom is Serena Williams, you know there. I

1622
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: believe another isn't Fergie a minority owner from the Black

1623
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Eyed Peas. I think she's a minority owner. There's a

1624
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 1: bunch of people in the talent, you know, showbiz industry

1625
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 1: that are minority owners of the Dolphins. Obviously, I mentioned

1626
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 1: two females for the very reason of what Deshaun Watson

1627
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: has been accused of by twenty two women. How does like,

1628
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 1: I know Stephen Ross is the majority owner and what

1629
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: he wants he gets, But how does that play They

1630
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: don't have his phone number. That that's what I'm talking about.

1631
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: How does that play with your minority ownership? Maybe maybe

1632
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,839
Speaker 1: that's why it's hush hush. Nobody wanted to know, anybody

1633
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: to know about it. Well, it's out there now, right.

1634
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: You don't think somebody's like going to here what I like,

1635
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: scrolling through their contacts in their phone going on mean,

1636
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: call that ain't happening right, that's listen. It's one thing

1637
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: for it's for you and me ticket holders guys Charlie

1638
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: bag of Donut sitting in the corner of the end

1639
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 1: zone bought us ticket and there with his kid. It's

1640
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 1: one thing for those guys to like, go, I don't

1641
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: like that. It's another thing for somebody whose owns part

1642
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: of the team call you him and say hey, no

1643
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: to me. That's a big difference. That's a voice that

1644
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 1: you kind of got a risk listen to. That's why

1645
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: I brought it up. I mean, it's just that's bad.

1646
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: There's no do you think Serena Williams wants to be

1647
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: part of that acquisition as a minority owner who does

1648
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: one guy one guy, that guy. Yeah, I don't even know.

1649
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 1: We don't even know for sure what what Ryan Flores

1650
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 1: thinks about it. He may be like, uh, you know,

1651
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: it's well, you did hear him say yesterday? They want

1652
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 1: only character people throughout their building, which I think is

1653
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: a veiled reference to Stephen Ross basically saying what are

1654
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: you doing? What are you doing? Are you trying to

1655
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 1: completely compromise what I'm trying to build here? It sounds

1656
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: exactly like like Flores shot across the battle my watch.

1657
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: Don't do that to me? Maybe, so break time for

1658
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: us here. More on that along with everything else that's

1659
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 1: going around the league in terms of player releases. As

1660
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams, we'll be getting down to fifty

1661
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: three men on their active roster by four pm today.

1662
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, one Bills Live Hour

1663
01:38:47,160 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 1: number three. Next we'll see in a second at a

1664
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind

1665
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:10,839
Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player

1666
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even in

1667
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: the strated fere of normalcy here. Yeah, welcome to our

1668
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: number three Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you as we

1669
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: discuss fifty three man roster day, and we are asking

1670
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: you to fill in the blank. I will be happy

1671
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: if the bills blank with the roster among the choices

1672
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: carry seven wide receivers, add a surprise contributor. There's a

1673
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: what was choice number two? I already forgot choice number two?

1674
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: This is embarrassing, Um, what is wrong with me? Choice

1675
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: number two was from a trade, from a position of depth,

1676
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: that's correct and right now leading, and this has been

1677
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: leading wire to wire? Is a yer a surprise contributor?

1678
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: And we go to Rusty on the tweet sheet, who says,

1679
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: I'd be happy if they do all of these. I

1680
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: think seven wide receivers is happening. I hope they are

1681
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 1: always looking for guys on waivers, free agents or trades

1682
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: that can come in and make us better. I'm happy

1683
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: if they're keeping Zimmer he can help us. What's next

1684
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 1: a tight end? We were just discussing this thing. He's

1685
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: been listening to the show. What's next to tight end?

1686
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 1: Is the question at the end. It's more like who's next?

1687
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 1: While right there could be they could be looking around,

1688
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 1: or they could be perfectly willing given the fact they're

1689
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna keep seven wides to go with three three tight

1690
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: ends and try and find another one that is they're

1691
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: going to bring back for the practice squad. I mean,

1692
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, they could. They could bring back Hollister if

1693
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: they wanted to. Nate Becker could be brought back, Quintin Morris,

1694
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 1: Quintin Morris could be brought back. All of these guys

1695
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: could be brought back on the practice squad so that

1696
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: if something happens to Sweeney or Knox or Gilliam, then

1697
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: they could, you know, they could activate somebody and have

1698
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: them ready who knows the terminology and you just plug

1699
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: them right in. But you're right, I now that they've

1700
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: done it and we talked about them doing it, kind

1701
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: of makes me tense about having only three guys that

1702
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: can play the position. So you're hoping for it. You

1703
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 1: got it, and now you're nerve sixteen player practice squad man.

1704
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 1: You can always have reserves there. You can have up

1705
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,480
Speaker 1: to six players with an unlimited amount of NFL experience.

1706
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have you know, thirty three year

1707
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: old Jordan Devy on the practice squad if you want

1708
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: it to. Yeah, they need they need Yeah, they need

1709
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: tight ends on the speaking at squad, speaking of offensive lineman, Steve,

1710
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: going into today, they still had thirteen offensive linemen on

1711
01:41:54,479 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: their roster. Among the reported releases Jamil Douglas and Jackie Anderson,

1712
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: which brings them down to eleven. They may only have

1713
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: to move one more off their offensive roster conceivably, yeah,

1714
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,520
Speaker 1: and carry ten, which I think is a distinct possibility.

1715
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: They who have they released off the offensive according to reports,

1716
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Jamil Douglas and jack Anderson. Right, So, Bobby Hart is

1717
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 1: the only new name on there that wasn't on this

1718
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: roster last year, along with the two rookies. And we

1719
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: are hearing reports that Tommy Doyle has made the roster

1720
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: so interesting. I don't know. They don't have to do

1721
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: much more there, I guess that's what I'm saying. It's

1722
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: fascinating to talk. I talk about this stuff because it's

1723
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: a you know, it's a chemistry test. Yeah, Steve Simms,

1724
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 1: Nate Becker, Quinton Morris, Jamil Douglas, Jack Anderson, Cam Lewis,

1725
01:42:52,560 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Josh Thompson, Antonio Williams. Hollister is seems to be He's

1726
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: telling people that he thinks he'll be back when they

1727
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: ir somebody. Yeah, I think I think that could very

1728
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: well be the case, which without a layer fears, then yes,

1729
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: it would. Okay. Great. Tiffany on the tweet sheet says,

1730
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: you hate to see any good player released, but with

1731
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: this roster, it's going to happen. If you can trade

1732
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: that player and get something back of value in return

1733
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: would be the best case scenario. I have a feeling

1734
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 1: our GM is exhausting all options as he rounds out

1735
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 1: the roster. I think it's safe to say that Brandon

1736
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: Bean's on the phone. I think he might be getting

1737
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 1: more phone calls than he's making. Right. We do know

1738
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: that one team that is very much in the market

1739
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: for offensive line help are the Giants, who looked like

1740
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: they had a jailbreak in their last preseason game. Their

1741
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: left tackle Andrew Thomas more closely resembled a turnstyle. They

1742
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,839
Speaker 1: made a trade to acquire Billy Price from the Bengals yesterday,

1743
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: a center guard who was a former first round pick.

1744
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: But it's just not panned out in Cincinnati. And as

1745
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, Steve, these teams that are in dire

1746
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: need of depth players or god forbid, somebody they need

1747
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 1: to start. Now you're behind the eight ball here. Yeah,

1748
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: you're hoping to scoop up a table scrap that tastes good.

1749
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 1: Most of the guys that are out there can't play

1750
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: at a level that you need him to play to

1751
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 1: give you any value during the season. That's why they're

1752
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: out there. That's why they're out there now. There might

1753
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: be some who if you're a team like Buffalo, or

1754
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: like Kansas City or Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Seattle or

1755
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 1: Rams forty nine ers, you go down the list of

1756
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: the good players playoff to Cleveland. You go down that list.

1757
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 1: There might be some players out there to say, you

1758
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 1: know what, he's not now, but he's gonna be and

1759
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: we think he'll his skill set will fit us better

1760
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: than he'll fit Buffalo. Like if we're Cleveland, we think

1761
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: go fit us better than he'll fit Buffalo or San Francisco.

1762
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: Don't you come play for us? Say? Okay. So then

1763
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: he comes out and all of a sudden, you know,

1764
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: he kind of glatches on, hangs out for a year.

1765
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: Then next year he does make the fifty three. But

1766
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,719
Speaker 1: it takes a while. That kind of thing can happen.

1767
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, you gotta be in a certain

1768
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 1: spot as an organization to bring in a kid, pay

1769
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: him for a year, you know, for nothing, just a

1770
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: limb go out on. Yeah, on the chance that he's

1771
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: the right guy or a guy that can get right.

1772
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 1: That's it's a risk. Yeah, I mean, you got it.

1773
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 1: It's a luxury. Basically, it's a risk. But if your

1774
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,919
Speaker 1: team is that solid, it's a risk you can probably

1775
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 1: afford to take. We talked about it earlier. The Bills

1776
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 1: lived in this in this this was the most for

1777
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: seventeen years of the drought. A lot of those years

1778
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: right in this area right here is where Bills fans

1779
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 1: had the most optimism that they were going to just

1780
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: get better all of a sudden, We're gonna scoop up

1781
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: all these guys that can really play, and it's just

1782
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: it's just not true. Yeah, I mean I get it.

1783
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 1: It's it's intriguing to think about there may be some

1784
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: guy out there, there's always but there is. But you

1785
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 1: just don't want to live like that. And that's where

1786
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: this organization existed. Yeah, for a long time, not every year,

1787
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: but a lot of years they're saying, wow, we need

1788
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: some help right here, because they were in successfully building

1789
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 1: this roster through the draft. So they were looking at

1790
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 1: other teams table scraps to try to fill in their

1791
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 1: roster that had voids in it, left, right and center.

1792
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 1: Let's you think back, and you know, who knows who

1793
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 1: wants to talk about this, but I guess I would

1794
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: for a minute. You get a guy in here, he's

1795
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 1: here for five years, and then you change it. And

1796
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: then the next guy in has got a different philosophy,

1797
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: so you spend time switching over to his philosophy, and

1798
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: there's some hiccups, and there's some stuff along way, something

1799
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 1: else happens that one of their draft, key draft picks

1800
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: or one key position, you cannot find a guy, it

1801
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, you switching. Now the philosophy has changed again,

1802
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: so the roster has to wash through again, and there's

1803
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe a handful of guys that can play in that

1804
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: from the last minute. But you know, you just spend

1805
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: your life washing through a roster and trying to find

1806
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,560
Speaker 1: key components that are just too difficult to find. And

1807
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: now I think, like with this organization and around the league,

1808
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: if there's a if there's a trend towards teams being

1809
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: more successful when they draft, it's because they tailor their

1810
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: exes and o's around the Jimmy's and the Joe's right,

1811
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: the exes and o's fit the fit the players, not

1812
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 1: the other way around. For decades, it was the other way.

1813
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna play. If you're this big, strong athlete, you're

1814
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 1: gonna play in my system. I'm gonna coach you up

1815
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 1: and you're gonna change. You know, whatever your skill set

1816
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 1: is is irrelevant. I'm gonna make you into the player

1817
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: I want you to be. And it sometimes it takes

1818
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 1: a long time, and sometimes it never happens. But if

1819
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: you if you come in, you gotta get this big

1820
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 1: strong athlete. You do this and this, well, okay, do that,

1821
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 1: Just do that. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to

1822
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: do that when you're on the field. That's all I

1823
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 1: want you to do. Do what you do best. That's

1824
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: the better way to go. And that's what most NFL

1825
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 1: franchises have begun to do. All the really great coaches

1826
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 1: in the past did that. That's what Don Shula did.

1827
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 1: I used to He used to drive me crazy. They

1828
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 1: named anybody, and they were predictable sometimes because they had

1829
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 1: guys with limited skill sets some places, so you knew

1830
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: they weren't going to ask him to do this. You

1831
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: could try and get him to do that offensively, but

1832
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 1: they wouldn't do you know. So, but he always had

1833
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 1: guys who were really good at what they did because

1834
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: they only asked him to do what they did best.

1835
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 1: And they were good. Man, they were hard to beat.

1836
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 1: They were hard to be because everything that you could

1837
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 1: do against that defense, as simple as it was, they'd

1838
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 1: seen a hundred times when we're lined up in this

1839
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 1: everybody always attacks right here or right here or that that,

1840
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So they knew what they

1841
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: were looking at. It was just it's like beating your

1842
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 1: head against the wall for those guys. So now the

1843
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 1: entire league is more that way, and I think you

1844
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,799
Speaker 1: know it's it's a better place to be, no question.

1845
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: Nick on the tweet sheet says, keep seven wide receivers.

1846
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 1: Not only do we have so many talented receivers that

1847
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: I want to see on the roster, but we need

1848
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: the depth. We are deep now. But all it takes

1849
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 1: is one bad injury and a COVID issue and then

1850
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: suddenly our wide receiver room will be lacking. Now that's

1851
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: a good point. The COVID issue is still very much

1852
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 1: a part of the equation this year in terms of

1853
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 1: corrupting your roster depth. We saw it last week. Cole Beasley,

1854
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis. You don't have them for five days. Good luck.

1855
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: Now you still have the freedom with the relaxed practice

1856
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: squad rules to call up two players to put on

1857
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: your active roster as late as ninety minutes before a game.

1858
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: Provided it's a COVID related issue, you can wait that long.

1859
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: Otherwise you have to get it done by Saturday at

1860
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: four pm for a Sunday game. I guess that's a

1861
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: matter of preference, maybe more than anything else, like whether

1862
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 1: they're on your practice squad to be called up if

1863
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 1: you need them, or if you want to carry them

1864
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 1: on your active roster because you're worried about them getting

1865
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 1: signed away by another team to their active roster. Yeah,

1866
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 1: practice doing it. Doing it Saturday at four tips off

1867
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 1: your opponent as to what you're doing. For one thing,

1868
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 1: if you do it ninety minutes before the haze and

1869
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: the ball, yeah, you can't do that. Well, Yeah, there's

1870
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of that going on. But you're right.

1871
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: As long as you got guys you can plug in

1872
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: that you trust you can, you can get guys on

1873
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: the practice wading you have guys on the practice squad,

1874
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 1: you can protect guys and if and if you do

1875
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 1: have that like like the bills and maybe I don't know,

1876
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you how many it is, but if

1877
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of guys at one position group

1878
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 1: that are vulnerable because they're unvaccinated to the protocols, yeah,

1879
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 1: you keep a couple of extra guys on the on

1880
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 1: the practice squad because you may have to cover for

1881
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, you kind of have to. You gott

1882
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: to insulate yourself, right, Jason says, I still think we

1883
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: can get the packers to overpay for Kumero fourth rounder.

1884
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, factors are going to be the butt of

1885
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: jokes for a while. Yeah all right, let me ask

1886
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: you this friend, do you take a fourth for Kumero

1887
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: A four? Yeah, I'd be tempted. But here's the rub,

1888
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: And we talked about this earlier. This team is going

1889
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 1: for it. You describe them as a runaway train, and

1890
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 1: you need you need conductors, not passengers, and you need

1891
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 1: everybody on this roster to win more s. You need

1892
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 1: guys shoveling it into the furnace. Let's go. You need

1893
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: everybody to help you win now, and Kumarro helps you

1894
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: win now more than a fourth round draft choice, so

1895
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: I would shy away from it. Right now. I'm looking

1896
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,679
Speaker 1: to add a piece that puts me over the top,

1897
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 1: not subtract, and Kumarro's on my fifty three man roster.

1898
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 1: It depends to me. It depends on this. How many

1899
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 1: snaps do you envision Kumar getting an offense. I don't

1900
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 1: care about the snaps. I care about having the depth

1901
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: to overcome injuries. I care about having guys that can

1902
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: deliver in specified situations. If I'm in the red zone,

1903
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm putting Kumaro on the field because I can throw

1904
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:18,639
Speaker 1: him a jumpall in the corner of the end zone.

1905
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna outjump anybody. If I put it nine feet

1906
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: in the air. You could, Yeah, you could bring You

1907
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 1: could bring back Duke Williams for that though. I mean,

1908
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,799
Speaker 1: you had Isaiah McKenzie on this roster as a package

1909
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 1: player the last two years, right. I think Kumaro gives

1910
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 1: you enough value to use him on a package of

1911
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: plays every week and you'll line them up on special teams.

1912
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 1: All right. But here's the thing, is he gonna play

1913
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: those spits you could is that in the play, are

1914
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: you gonna take Gabe Davis off the field and put

1915
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:47,600
Speaker 1: Kumaro on? No? Or well, I mean, if it's an

1916
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 1: either or no, well, who you are you gonna take

1917
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 1: Digs off Beasley? Emmanuel Sanders? Who you're gonna take? You're

1918
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: you're operating in a vacuum. Now, now you're assuming you've

1919
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: got all of those guys, we're all seventeen game Okay,

1920
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 1: that's true, that's right. So so I don't know if

1921
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 1: that's a fair proposition that you're proposed, right, But think

1922
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 1: about it though, I mean, that's the that's the question though, Yeah,

1923
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: because you're not you don't know you're right. I mean,

1924
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: and if if Beasley goes down, it doesn't mean kumro's

1925
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: automatically on the field, but mckensanders in the slot and

1926
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: now Kumarro's outside. No, if you go yeah, or mckensey

1927
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: goes in the slot and you leave the guy's as

1928
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 1: is or whatever. So, yeah, that's what you're trying to get.

1929
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 1: That's what my point is. How much is Kumero in

1930
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,759
Speaker 1: a perfect scenario going to play for you as opposed

1931
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: to a guy in the fourth round that you're gonna

1932
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: get next year's draft that's gonna be a deep draft

1933
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 1: and all that name. It's it's pretty it's pretty cut

1934
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 1: and dry for me. Kumarro helps me this year a

1935
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: fourth round draft quick does not. And so because I

1936
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: am going for it, I am going for the whole

1937
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: kitten kaboodle. I need as many guys on the train

1938
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 1: that can shovel coal as possible. I don't care if

1939
01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:59,719
Speaker 1: I ask him to pick up the shovel two weeks,

1940
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: seventeen weeks, twenty weeks. I need guys that can help

1941
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 1: me this year in a fourth round draft. Choice doesn't

1942
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 1: you're talking like Sean McDermott. Now, talk like Brandon Bean,

1943
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: who's got to build it. We'll worry about it next spring.

1944
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 1: I already got an extra six and six ain't a four.

1945
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 1: Six ain't a four. But in the draft next year

1946
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 1: it might be all right, what if you get Kumaro? Yeah, okay, whatever,

1947
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 1: it's wen go round service. You're I'm I'm very fun.

1948
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing very hesitant to say it's all busting right now.

1949
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we got to do it now, Kumar, let

1950
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 1: me tell you this, If you're gonna win the Super

1951
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Bowl this year. I have a hard time getting to

1952
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 1: the point where Kumar is going to be the difference.

1953
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 1: You can say that now you can say that. I'm

1954
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 1: saying this too, going on going forward, another fourth round pick.

1955
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing that being a dynasty

1956
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 1: builder too. Yeah, see what I'm saying. Of course, Gabriel

1957
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: Davis was a fourth round pick. So nah, all right,

1958
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean you could, you could spend this thing, spend

1959
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 1: this top anyway you want. Um But I just I

1960
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 1: always come down on or a boy whoever did who

1961
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 1: is a rusty here? Who? Yeah? No, Jason, Jason, Jason, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1962
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: So Jason has hit the proverbial tipping point. What about

1963
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: a third Yeah? See, then you gotta do it. Well,

1964
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 1: you may have to. Yeah, you may have to because

1965
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 1: that's uncommon value. And hold on and you have enough

1966
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: roster depth here where you know, maybe Isaiah Hodgins gets

1967
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 1: healthy and you carry him as your seventh receiver on

1968
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 1: your roster. It's no longer Kumero, not the same kind

1969
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 1: of player. No, Hodgens doesn't give you the same thing

1970
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: on special teams. But you know, there you are, So

1971
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: what do you lose? You get a third maybe you're

1972
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 1: a little bit lesser of receiving core in terms of

1973
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 1: depth this year, but you have the chance to be

1974
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: better next year. There's no word that Hodgens has been

1975
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: I have not seen that seen that either. So he

1976
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 1: may he might be right. He might get on the roster,

1977
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: make the fifty three and then be put on ir tomorrow.

1978
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 1: Right because of whatever knee ailment he's had that's kept

1979
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 1: him out of the last two pres What about Guy

1980
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Marquez Stevenson. Is he one hundred percent healthy now? Because

1981
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: here's a guy non contact limping off and the Bears

1982
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 1: game on a punt return, and then last week he

1983
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 1: goes off them. Ye took a knock to the head,

1984
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 1: I guess, and he would he would. He had problems

1985
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 1: in college stain on the field. Yeah, that's an issue.

1986
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 1: Might want to keep Kumara. We're already taught you're already

1987
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 1: talking about losing people to injury. That that's a position

1988
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in in a year where

1989
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 1: I am going for the whole damn thing. That's that's

1990
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: why I kind of you'd really have to pull me over.

1991
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: You have to get up to the third rounder for

1992
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: me to budge on that we'll see. Veto says, I

1993
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 1: will be happy if the Bills somehow now are able

1994
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 1: to keep Justin Zimmer on the roster. I love his

1995
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: workhorse ethic. His workhorse ethic is that a thing, Mr

1996
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 1: Booze is what a Buffalo bill should be? Well, I

1997
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 1: agree with that wholeheartedly. I think there is a spot

1998
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 1: for him now that you've traded Darryl Johnson. That's one

1999
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 1: guy I might have considered carrying over Justin Zimmer, but

2000
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 1: now you don't need to. So gives you something something,

2001
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 1: no question. So right now, um, I'll tell you right now,

2002
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 1: I've got Zimmer over Obada on my roster. I don't

2003
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: know if different they're different positions they are, but I

2004
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: think with the injury to Harrison Phillips that helps Justin

2005
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Zimmer at least for the interim, because that was considered

2006
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: a week to week injury. So you have inside you

2007
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: have star Vernon Butler, ed Oliver Brandon Bryant, Trayvon Hester

2008
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 1: who's nicked up right now, and an injured Harrison Phillips.

2009
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 1: So for me, Zimmer is on the roster. Zimmer might

2010
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 1: be on the roster here for week one and then

2011
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: then go to the practice squad or whatever. But yeah,

2012
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 1: he's even We had Greg Cosell yesterday on he say

2013
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: he likes Zimmer. He says, he's not just a try

2014
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 1: hard guy's long chase player. He gives you something in

2015
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: the pass rush and he's yeah, he's more than just

2016
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 1: a fun you know, it's just a good story. He

2017
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 1: can play and he's not a dominant but he, like

2018
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: you said, he chases down the line. He's a glue

2019
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 1: guy like dun Semi. I think I think the coaching

2020
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 1: staff really likes him. Um, he's the he's available. Yeah,

2021
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, the guys shows up. He shows up on

2022
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: game day. You cannot under it. Look at what happened

2023
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 1: forty nine ers yet last year. You cannot underestimate how

2024
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 1: valuable it is to have a guy who is there

2025
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: lining up every week. That is an especially a guy

2026
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: like Zimmer who gives you a little something. Oh yeah,

2027
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: he's got some juice now right. He can out run

2028
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: eighteen miles an hour on Next Gen's Dead. He can

2029
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: run faster than every offensive lineman and every defensive lineman

2030
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 1: on the field. That screen pass from behind, I know

2031
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: from the wide side of the field, and I tell

2032
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 1: you this too. He does. He holds his ground on

2033
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage in the run game and forces

2034
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 1: the back to bounce. That's what they're supposed to do.

2035
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 1: Soak up some soak up some blockers, don't let him

2036
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: get push you back away from the line of scrimmage,

2037
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 1: and he holds his water and move and pushes the

2038
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: play along the line. It's he's a good player. He's

2039
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 1: a good player, and he's been more healthy and available

2040
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 1: in the last eighteen months than than a guy like Harrison,

2041
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:02,839
Speaker 1: like you know, Harry Phillips. As much as I love Harrison,

2042
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 1: as good at players he has been. It's a fact.

2043
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 1: Availability is a factor. We have to take a break here,

2044
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: but when we come back. One tweeter has a concern

2045
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:22,440
Speaker 1: about what we just discussed, Marquez Stevenson's availability based on

2046
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 1: some injury hiccups in the preseason. We will discuss that

2047
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: along with more of your comments on the tweetcheet when

2048
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health,

2049
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. There we go a final half

2050
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 1: hour of the program on League Cutdown Day, Interesting development

2051
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 1: up in New England. ESPN's field Yates is reporting rookie

2052
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent kicker Quinn Nordon has won the Patriots

2053
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:02,640
Speaker 1: kicking job over veteran Nick folk. Folk has been injured.

2054
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:07,320
Speaker 1: I believe he was on pup all through the preseason here,

2055
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 1: but it was thought, oh, once he's healthy, he'll get

2056
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:13,800
Speaker 1: the kicking job back. Apparently no, and Quinn Norton in

2057
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 1: the first preseason game was a train wreck. He missed

2058
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 1: an extra point, pushed another field goal wide. It did

2059
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:21,240
Speaker 1: not look good for him in the early going. But

2060
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 1: I guess he's done enough to convince them he will

2061
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: be their guy going forward. Another player who was very

2062
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:32,600
Speaker 1: intriguing in the draft class a couple of years ago,

2063
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver Antonio Gandy Golden out of Liberty. He has

2064
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 1: been waived by Washington, former fourth round pick in twenty twenty.

2065
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 1: I thought he had some potential. I liked what I

2066
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:46,240
Speaker 1: saw from him at the Senior Bowl when I was

2067
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 1: down there a couple of years ago. But he is

2068
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 1: now out there and will probably enter the waiver. Yeah,

2069
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 1: he will enter waivers as he has not a vested veteran.

2070
02:01:56,320 --> 02:02:00,200
Speaker 1: So some interesting things going on out there in the

2071
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 1: league transaction wire. We do want to get back to

2072
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, though, and to a comment from Jacob

2073
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 1: who said, I keep hearing Stevenson's name being on the

2074
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 1: fifty three even after his non contact injury after the

2075
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 1: Chicago return and also was on the sidelines against Green

2076
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Bay with trainers tending to him. Does this not play

2077
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 1: a factor for you guys? It does, But I think

2078
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:32,000
Speaker 1: what also plays a factor is what is your runway

2079
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 1: for a guy like Marquez Stevenson. Maybe he doesn't help

2080
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:39,600
Speaker 1: you a ton this year, but if he is in

2081
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 1: your plans for the future. Gold Beasley's entering the final

2082
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 1: year of his contract next year, age thirty three season.

2083
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders might only be here for this season at

2084
02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 1: age thirty four. You have to think of guys that

2085
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: you can promote through the ranks that can fill those

2086
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:01,040
Speaker 1: roles in the future. Can you afford to keep him

2087
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 1: on the practice squad maybe and make him one of

2088
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: your four protected players every week that can't be poached.

2089
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:11,360
Speaker 1: Maybe you do that. Yes, when you see a couple

2090
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:15,320
Speaker 1: of injuries crop up. Steve already mentioned Stevenson's injury history

2091
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 1: in college at the University of Houston. It is a concern,

2092
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 1: but I would not call his foot injury non contact.

2093
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 1: He actually injured that on offense on the previous play,

2094
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 1: then went back and returned the punt for a touchdown

2095
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 1: and came out of the game, So it wasn't a

2096
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 1: non contact injury in all fairness. But yes, I understand

2097
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 1: the concern. He is a slight framed athlete, so there's

2098
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: that to be concerned about, knowing it's a big man's game.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie, same deal. So there is a balance you

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Speaker 1: have to strike with players like that. How much of

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Speaker 1: a workload do you give them if they have a

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Speaker 1: history like that. Yeah, and every injury is different, kind

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Speaker 1: of evaluate is he willing to play when he's not

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Speaker 1: feeling his best? Because that's I mean, that's basically what

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Speaker 1: you have to do. Um. You can say what you

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Speaker 1: want about whether guy's vulnerable or fragile, but if he's

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Speaker 1: if he's not tough, he's not he's never gonna play

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Speaker 1: because you can take you never take the field feeling great.

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Speaker 1: You're always nicked. Yeah, So that's that's a concern. And

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Speaker 1: only the you know, medical staff and the guys who

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Speaker 1: know him and he himself can tell you that. You

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Speaker 1: can tell you the truth about it you know about

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Speaker 1: you know, does the guy want to play even when

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Speaker 1: he doesn't feel his best. There's been guys for decades.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a thing. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: play unless they feel one hundred percent. And you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't play. You just can't play no well because

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Speaker 1: you never feel that way. That's right after one and

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Speaker 1: there's some guys that can't handle that. You take one

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Speaker 1: sh yacht and you're not feeling you're in the next play,

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02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 1: You're like, I need to come out. Well what are

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02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 1: you doing? You know? I mean it's so it's it

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Speaker 1: is a thing, and I do consider we were talking

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Speaker 1: about it. You know, availability is the best ability, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a huge factor when you talk about

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Speaker 1: a guy like Harrison Phillips, who's really played well for

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Speaker 1: this franchise at times, but has really struggled with injuries

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Speaker 1: throughout his three year career. For your career, I can't

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Speaker 1: remember what it is. And then you get a guy

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02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: like Justin Zimmer he shows up and you can't get

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Speaker 1: him off the field for whatever. Maybe it's just dumb luck. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well that's the way it is. Then being able to

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Speaker 1: line up and not just play, but also practice and

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Speaker 1: prepare to play well is a huge factor. That's one

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Speaker 1: of the things that's been that was really noticeable about

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02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:49,040
Speaker 1: last year's team in Buffalo. You guys would get hurt,

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02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 1: but not only would they get them ready and recoup.

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02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 1: They would get them ready and recoup, not just for

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Speaker 1: game day. They get him for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday practices

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02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 1: so they could prepare to play well. And that's as

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Speaker 1: important as a factor as being ready on Sunday. From

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Speaker 1: Platinum one on the tweet sheet, do you think the

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02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:08,800
Speaker 1: Bills will now trade for zacher it seeing that they

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Speaker 1: have released some tight ends. I don't think we can

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Speaker 1: completely rule it out, but we're hearing that Jacob Hollister,

2146
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 1: who is a reported release, will be back on the

2147
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,480
Speaker 1: roster after they square away some IR designations once the

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02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster is formed, so knowing he is

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Speaker 1: probably back in the fold in the span of forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours, I don't foresee that, but I guess we'll

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Speaker 1: have to wait and see on it. Dave says, I

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Speaker 1: chose see. I don't think it necessarily needs to be

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Speaker 1: a starting caliber player, but maybe acquire someone who is

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Speaker 1: able to fill in when needed. I can think of

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Speaker 1: a couple of positions where we have depth and a

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02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 1: need elsewhere. So he's in your boat, Steve. He wants

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Speaker 1: to acquire a surprise contributor. We think at the top

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Speaker 1: of this roster, I mean we've got you know, we're

2159
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Speaker 1: talking about the bottom position player at every position group.

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Speaker 1: The top of this roster is pretty heavy. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's got. They got some dudes, let's be real.

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Speaker 1: So if you can get a guy that can jump

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Speaker 1: into whatever mix you talk about defensively or offensively and

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Speaker 1: make a contribution significantly, statistically or otherwise, that's that's a

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Speaker 1: coup at this point. Yeah, I hear you. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: the exception very much, it's the rule, very much so.

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Speaker 1: And even and as we often see, even the guys

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Speaker 1: that are released that are recognizable names, there's usually some

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Speaker 1: wart attached to them at that particular time, whether it's

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Speaker 1: an injury that this team does not believe offers him

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Speaker 1: a chance to play anytime soon this year. Another medical

2172
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:54,040
Speaker 1: staff for another team might say, oh, he's good to go,

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Speaker 1: be good in two weeks. Yeah, yeah, you should sign him,

2174
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Speaker 1: and then he'll wind up on another roster. Yeah. They

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Speaker 1: think about this. Acquired are a super surprise contributor, who

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Speaker 1: mean a trade from a position of depth you get

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Speaker 1: we're talking about getting a draft like a six or

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Speaker 1: a five, or like in Kumro's case of four, that'd

2179
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Speaker 1: be great, keep seven wide receivers. I think you and

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02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:15,080
Speaker 1: I both believe that's a done deal. But acquiring a

2181
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Speaker 1: surprise contributor, what are you gonna trade for him? Or

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Speaker 1: you just gonna find him on the scrap people. I

2183
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Speaker 1: don't think you'll find him on the scrape. It's got

2184
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 1: to be a player for player or a draft pick

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02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 1: for a player. And that's why some of these you know,

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Speaker 1: we're also getting on the tweet sheet where somebody's bringing

2187
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Speaker 1: up zach Ertz again. One thing to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: out for is whether Lee Smith makes the Atlanta Falcons roster,

2189
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Speaker 1: because as long as he does, the Bills then get

2190
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Speaker 1: that draft choice that's lock Stock and Barrel. It's in

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Speaker 1: what if he doesn't and the Bills bring him back? Possible,

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Speaker 1: very possible. Could happen they traded right, Yeah, they traded him.

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Speaker 1: Could happen. I agree. I I wouldn't have a problem

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Speaker 1: with that at all. Yeah, it would's interesting that to

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Speaker 1: me is interesting that that is, that is a it's juicy.

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Speaker 1: That is a pebble dropped in the calm waters of

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Speaker 1: my mind. That starts a ripple effect for me. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you know what I mean. Guys like that,

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Speaker 1: you know you can trade, you know what you're getting,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's a guy that when he

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Speaker 1: could you imagine when he walks into the locker room downstairs.

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Speaker 1: Those guys they throw a party. John Feliciano tackled him

2203
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 1: in the end zone, and they would absolutely they could

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Speaker 1: have it. They would throw a team party. They'd be

2205
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Speaker 1: hung over the next day, Big Country. They would absolutely

2206
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Speaker 1: jump for joy if Lee Smith came walking in that door.

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Speaker 1: And that includes the tight ends. Yeah, they traded him

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Speaker 1: for those that don't remember, for a seventh round pick

2209
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Speaker 1: on saying Patrick's day. Um. But as I understand it,

2210
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Speaker 1: Lee Smith has to make their fifty three man roster

2211
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Speaker 1: for that pick to be awarded to the Bills seventh

2212
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Speaker 1: round pick. So and if that's the and if that happens,

2213
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 1: then the Bills will have nine picks going into the

2214
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft, widely seen as one of the

2215
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Speaker 1: deepest draft pools in twenty years. Yes, listen, we have

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Speaker 1: plenty of time after February to start that conversation. Hold

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Speaker 1: onto that. We will take a break here, Steve and

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Speaker 1: I to close things up with what we have learned

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Speaker 1: from today's show. That's next here on one Bill's Line,

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Speaker 1: presented by Collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What

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Speaker 1: we have learned from today's show. We actually just learned something.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned how the Giants were in the market for

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Speaker 1: offensive line help. They have swung a trade. According to

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Adam Schefter, they have acquired guard Ben Bredeson from

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. This deal involves a swap of draft picks,

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Speaker 1: the rounds of which are not completely known, but we

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Speaker 1: do know New York is adding Baltimore's former fourth round

2228
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 1: draft choice Beren Breedeson. So we'll see. Maybe the Giants

2229
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 1: send them six and they get you know, Breeduson in

2230
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 1: a seven. So we'll wait and see the outcome of

2231
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Speaker 1: that trivia time. Steve and I have to credit a

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Speaker 1: lit of sports with this one, and Adam Schefter, who

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Speaker 1: tweeted it out. As we mentioned at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show. With Cam Newton now clipped by the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: every starting quarterback in the AFC East is age twenty

2236
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Speaker 1: five or younger, with Josh Allen now being the oldest

2237
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:56,760
Speaker 1: of the four. Can you remember the last time all

2238
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Speaker 1: four quarterbacks from the same division age twenty five years

2239
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:06,320
Speaker 1: or younger opened the season as the starting quarterback? Name

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Speaker 1: a year and the division game a year in a division? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go back a long way. Oh?

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02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:14,600
Speaker 1: Is it really okay? I was just gonna go back

2243
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 1: to pre nineteen eighty I have no shoe, No, nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy three AFC Central. Can you name the quarterbacks nineteen

2245
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Speaker 1: what sent three AFC Central Division? Because that would have

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Speaker 1: been the Oilers. Brown's Cleveland, I mean Systems. Okay, Bradshaw,

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Speaker 1: Bradshaw's correct. Come on, you can do this. Uh? The

2248
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 1: guy the q Snoilers? Uh? What was his name? The Yeah?

2249
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:48,720
Speaker 1: I don't, I can't remember. You can Kenny Anderson, Kenny Anderson? Yes,

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Speaker 1: two for two? Come on, Steve, you can do it.

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Speaker 1: Kenny Anderson, have faith in you. The one might be tough,

2252
02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 1: but you should get this. Third guy three? I can't

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02:12:59,640 --> 02:13:05,200
Speaker 1: right hold on? Um, what is the callian last name?

2254
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:10,440
Speaker 1: What is the guy from Houston? Yes, it's I can

2255
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Speaker 1: see his face. I'll give you the initials dpatorin the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnet and the Cleveland Browns quarterback would be No, it's

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Speaker 1: a good guess, but it's Mike Phipps. Oh, that's a

2258
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 1: good one. Mike Phipps. Almost, that's a good that's isn't

2259
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Speaker 1: that good? Trivia? There? You did good, Steve three out

2260
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Speaker 1: of four with a little help, but that's okay. Nineteen

2261
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Speaker 1: seventy three AFC Central the last division where all four

2262
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Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks in the season opener aged twenty five or younger.

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Speaker 1: Amazing wow. And the the AFC East is going to

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Speaker 1: do it this year. Where to go, Josh, Here we go.

2265
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Speaker 1: Jet's still in the market for a veteran quarterback after

2266
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Speaker 1: cutting Josh Johnson. For now, James Morgan is the backup there,

2267
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 1: but Josh Johnson has reportedly been cut, so they are

2268
02:13:57,760 --> 02:14:00,360
Speaker 1: still keeping an eye out for a veteran in QB

2269
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 1: they might want as a backup to Zach Wilson in

2270
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Speaker 1: New York. So we'll keep our ear to the ground

2271
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Speaker 1: on that. Stay tuned to Buffalo Bills dot com all

2272
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Speaker 1: evening for roster updates when it's made official. And don't

2273
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Speaker 1: forget tomorrow's show. Right here, we'll have Brandon Bean's reaction

2274
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Speaker 1: to the final roster assembly and Eric Wood joining us

2275
02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 1: for his reaction to the fifty three man roster. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you then