WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Bring Zack Back? 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:06.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:16.400 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:16.960 Yes? 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:18.840 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:19.640 Absolutely? 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.000 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.360 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:34.880 Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris and 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:36.080 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.640 It is Monday, December second, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.120 episode number seventy seven. 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See 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:56.280 why at LG dot Com Forward slash O lead EVO. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.080 How's Everybody's Thanksgiving? 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:58.760 Two words? 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.960 Derek Hookham, There we go, baby. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.280 Go, Let's go. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.880 I haven't been that excited about a game since maybe 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:07.720 two thousand and five. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.160 That was Nervers for you? 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.000 Oh man, that was pretty nice. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.240 Id you like that block punt? 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.000 There are so many moments in that game. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.160 You sweat those games more than Cowboy games, yes, not 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.320 even close. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:23.000 And part of it is. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.959 Part of it is this for me is very It's 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.960 it's very because I've worked in this profession. It feels 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.600 like my motives are very different, like and it's and 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.280 I've done it for so long now to where I 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:35.720 just kind of like some of it. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:37.120 I'm a little bit numb to. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.760 But but my my college man, I wear that on 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:41.240 my sleep. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.440 I mean, even with the twelve team playoffs, the losses 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.520 still still do mean a lot more than the losses 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.960 in the NFL. So there's there's a lot more on 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:49.840 the line weekend and week out, I feel like at least. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.800 But but yeah, as crazy how they decide to think 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.760 it's twelve twelve teams. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.000 It's gonna be a lot of good games in that 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.040 playoff I'm looking for. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.160 So I went to Texas and North Texas, so I 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.440 just kind of rep both. If they were to ever 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.400 play each other, I know what would happen, but I'd 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:04.120 show up in Green. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.400 So so that means you're in no Texas guy? Yeah, okay, yes, fair, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.280 as long as you don't say Texas Texas A and M. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:11.680 They don't know. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:19.639 I Like, I know, money goes to Texas, so I'm 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.480 in Texas going now. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.840 It's tough how many days a week does Brian have 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.040 L s U gear on three day three at least 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:28.560 three week. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.880 I love l SU no doubt you should. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:31.200 You should. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.760 It's a great school and man, when you send your 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.440 money there when you got and by the way, I 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.240 tell people this all the time, college is where you 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.840 have some of the greatest memories of your's if you 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.040 do it right. If you do college right, you should 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.079 have some of the greatest memories of your life outside 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.679 of probably marriage and kids, you should have some of 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.359 the greatest memories of your life in college. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:50.799 So of course you're going to root hard for him. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.680 Well, you know, to your point, though, Bennett, Bennett my 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.120 son has been very fortunate. He's been two. He went 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.080 went to Tuscaloosa, sawt Texas win, and he was on 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.359 his way to Michigan. You know, he messed that up. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.000 He had it wired to go when he messed up 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.440 the ticket deal, or he'd have been there and then 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.560 to watch a game at Kyle Field for them to 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.600 win there. Yeah, I mean he's on a little bit 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.919 of a role with these the way Texas. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:18.960 Send him to the championship. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.040 He was going to get a hold of you. He 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.200 was going to get a hold of you because he 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.120 has a ticket, but he's got a final on Friday 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:30.680 and one on Monday. And I think he was going 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:31.960 to try and get a hold of you seeing if 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.440 you wanted his ticket to Atlanta. It's it's the only one. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.080 It's only ticket. Now hard on a plane. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.000 See, my wife is also a Texan, and anytime I go, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:42.960 she's kind of like, well what about me? 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.760 I want to go, But he's got a ticket, and 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.080 but he can't. He's got a final on Friday and 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.440 one on Monday. He said, no, I can't make it, 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.520 So nobody said he goes. I sent him your contact information. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:55.960 I thought you were saying he was going to call 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:57.680 me so that I could call some of his professors 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:58.160 to see if I. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:01.640 Was going to say I wasn't that great a student. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.680 So I don't know how that's gonna work. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.320 He just he was thinking about somebody that really could 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.360 use a ticket, that would really enjoy the game, and. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.640 Maybe maybe Clarence Hillah, we know he always wants to 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:12.760 night game. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.640 That's why you know you maybe could pull it off. Yeah, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.360 because it's some Monday night game next week exactly. You know, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:19.680 Southwest gets there. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.120 I know, some people tell him call me, he's got 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:22.480 your number. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.280 That might be interested. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.960 But let's get to some Cowboys football. I actually had to. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.000 As I started doing my rundown for the show. I 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.240 was having a hard time because I kept thinking, and 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.279 I'm thinking of moments from that game, and I kept 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.680 thinking of Texas moments because I had to kind of 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.880 in my mind, they stopped thinking Texas. Let's think Cowboys. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.840 Let's start first. Where do you guys, what would you 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.840 guys say is the story of this game? Going back 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.479 to Thursday, Cowboys versus the Giants. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.840 To Marvin Overshown, he was a game wrecker, not only 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.200 the pick six, but you know, flying to the ball, 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.560 being as active as he was. There's other bright spots 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.799 to look at. But when I look at the story 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.440 of the game, it was a Marvin Overshown day. That's 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.599 that's gonna be the game we look back on something 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.479 that really served as a launch pad for his entire career. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.800 I think he's playing at a pro Bowl pace. In 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.520 my opinion, I think this is a This is a 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.479 guy who is more than deserving of that. If you 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.440 look at the tackles he's accounting for, you look at 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.640 the impact he makes not only in past rush but 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.000 also in coverage. He does a lot of things. And 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.400 so I'm a big overshown guy, and I think this 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:19.400 was the overshown game. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.520 Zach Martin is highly overrated at right guard. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:28.440 Him. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:34.400 There's a conversation not that it's not I don't think 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.320 it's should. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.800 Be the starting right guard. 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:38.719 No. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.880 I will say this though, that this offensive line, they 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.960 the Giants, we talked about it in the short time 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.080 we got to visit about them, struggled to defend the run, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.560 and you know, and and Rico Dabble, they loaded up, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.800 got some some quality runs. The offensive line I thought 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.839 did a really nice job, especially dealing with their defensive 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.040 tackles with Lawrence and stuff like that. So you know, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:10.400 give give give brock Hoffman once again, give give Mike 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.200 Solari and this group a lot of credit. You know, 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.240 that's a difficult front that they're there. That's where the 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.359 really the Giants their strength of their defense. So it's 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.040 those down linemen, and they did a pretty good job 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.080 holding up in protection wise and then being able to 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.000 run the football. And Rico Daddle was was very very 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.000 good in this football game. And so tip of the 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.120 cap to the offensive line and brock Hoffman once again 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.000 filling in and getting the job done. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.560 See, I I wanted a lot of times to get 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.680 really excited, but then remember it is against the Giants, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.280 like it was with the Giants. But at the same time, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.640 you know, it's still a professional football team. So during 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:55.120 the NFL for a reason too, despite how bad their 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.719 season is going, they're still all athletes and it was 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.240 very encouraging just to see some positive things that the 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.960 offense was was doing. The Cowboys offense and you talk 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.640 about a Rico Dallen, but in the running game, I 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.680 know Derek has been asking and begging for them to 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.680 run the ball, and we saw them being capable of 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.480 doing that. When they do decide to commit to their run, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.640 they can get it moving. So positive things from the 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.280 from the offense as far as just improvement in general 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.760 and kind of seeing Cooper Rush become kind of the 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.920 same quarterback that he was a couple of years When 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:31.280 was that? 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:32.800 What year was that? Two years ago? 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:37.800 Two years ago? Uh, when Dak was hurt. But also 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.040 the defense again winning and that energy is contagious and 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.760 you're just gonna it's infectious and everybody is gonna bring 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.840 their playing level up. You're looking at a team that 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.840 is not looking to tank the whole tanking's theory and story. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.240 That was clear when you saw that the Cowboys play 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.320 against the Giants on Thanksgiving. Nobody hears looking to tank 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.560 the season. They're going out there playing and doing what 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.040 they can do the best that they can do with 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.040 what they currently have. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.920 The only tank going on is Tank Lawrence potentially coming 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:11.640 back next Monday. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.240 By the way, I watched him, I was walking. I 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.320 took a peek out the window as I was walking 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.559 over here last week, and I saw him and Britt 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.480 Brown going at it pretty good. And that was incouraging. No, No, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.520 that wascurging. He was exactly we all go after Britt 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.400 that way, but yelling geez. But the thing about is 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:36.520 he was he was. They were working hard, and you know, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.120 and that was encouraging to me. In my mind, I'm thinking, like, Okay, 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.080 this is getting this getting serious over there, so you know, 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.400 hopefully you can you can get that thing squared back up. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:45.240 That'd be very nice. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.920 I have an apology to make to Osa Digizua. You know, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.080 we were talking about it last week about guys who 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.720 you know were on expiring contracts that should maybe be 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.280 deserving to coming back next year. He played really well, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:57.120 and he played. 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.720 Really thinking whether you would I spend that money? 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.360 I am, I am, I am rethinking that, especially considering 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.439 how much you are going to have to fill this offseason. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.640 Bring him back him? Okay, you can only afford one 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.880 him or Lewis that should I save that for yesterday 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.720 Tomorrow's Tuesdays. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.040 So that's a good conversation because I have an answered, 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.600 But I think that's a good conversation. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.000 I'd love to know other opinions. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.720 And when just saw the pain in your face. By 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.880 the way, there's like three teams I would love to 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.640 be playing right now. Love to play the Saints, yeah, 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.760 I love to play the Falcons. Love to play the 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:33.520 forty nine Ers. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:34.120 Yeah. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.959 Yeah, See that just shows that just shows you. Now, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.600 you're not great on offense right now, and that could be, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.240 but you're you're going the right way on defense. You're 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.280 going the right way with your pressure packages, playing the 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:51.400 run defense. You know, you get tanked back potentially. You know, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.640 if you could play the Saints, the Falcons and the 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.800 forty nine Ers again, that might be different story. You're 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.400 not gonna. I don't think different story versus Baltimore or Philadelphia. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.040 But those are three games early in the year that 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.800 are just going to probably haunt you. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.600 Although I will tell you this, the one thing about 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.800 Baltimore and the way the Cowboys came back in that game, 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.439 Baltimore's had some issues with it. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.920 It's all year and that's been an all year thing. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.000 And if they if Dallas were playing right at that time, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.120 like the run defense particularly is playing now, I think 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:24.440 that's a little bit of a different Bob. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.440 I'm only saying this because of the defense. I'm not 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:27.160 saying this because of the. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:28.079 Offense right exactly. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.079 And we're going to watch the Cincinnati tape this week 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.080 and we're going to be terrified of their offense. Yeah, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.160 we're gonna like, oh my gosh. But the one thing 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.840 you have is your defense is playing better your offense. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.720 I mean, it's coming down. You're having a score on 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:46.360 pick six's and kickoff returns. You know that that's not 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.840 going to be something you could travel with all the time. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.880 But man, I mean, if you could play those three 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.880 teams again with the way your defense is playing now 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.720 or playing better that, I think those would be different 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.360 outcomes we do. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.160 Yep, all right, let's let's talk about the offense from 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.480 this last game against the Giants. Rico Dawdle for in 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.280 my opinion, really the first time all year has shown 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.920 what I thought he really could be. You could say 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.040 the game before this they started seeing shades of it. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.280 Obviously got him to what is it's eighty seven yards. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.640 I think he was total in that previous game. But 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.880 this game he runs twenty two carries for one hundred 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.560 and twelve yards, a five point one average, a touchdown. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.640 It really felt like in this game they were committed 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.560 to him. Now there was a period and I want. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.160 To see what they run it all the way down 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.240 in three straight passes. 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.160 Yeah, well, I mean there was like three different there 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:36.600 were three. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:37.920 I stood up and yelled. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:43.839 Yeah, there was on the table, our end, our end. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.320 I stood up and went and got something to drink. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.440 I said enough, Like what are you doing? I'm like, enough, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.040 enough enough. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.680 It's just one of those things. I'm like, it's working. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:59.000 Yeah, when you find something that's working, keep That forced 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.360 them to stop Trump and so that just that did 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.520 kind of anger me a look, but. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.600 Overall they committed to the run. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.000 Well enough for him to have the yards that he did, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.800 it was the first time in his career he's passed 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.120 one hundred one hundred yards in a game. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.320 Think about this, the guy had two hundred yards in 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.880 five games. It's not five years in five days. I 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.040 mean he basically he backed to back. I mean you 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.520 you added up. I mean the number of cares. That's 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.880 tough coming off that Commander's game, tough game, running the football, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.520 physical game. The Giants we mentioned are struggling, but still 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.160 it's an NFL team and you got to you got 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.920 to run the ball. And he had two hundred yards 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.760 and really in five days apart, that shows you a 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.280 lot about that kid where he's at. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.640 And Tony Pollard always said that the Commanders were the 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.679 most physical challenge for him throughout the season as a 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.800 running back against a divisional opponent. And sure they have 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.440 some different personnel, but the personnel that they've added the 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.600 physical guys too. You talk about Dorn's armstrong and guys 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.880 like that. So yeah, it's impressive for for Reco daubtll. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.440 I think the big, the big runs were something that 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.400 was so healthy for this offense. I mean, it was 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.400 him breaking off the twenty two yarder and then backing 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.439 it up with a seventeen yard directly after. I mean, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.280 he's like patient. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.360 The pass and the pass and the pass. Yeah, after 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:12.600 talking about I mean. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.560 And then and then you could to that same point 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.480 the third and two they needed the first down just 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:18.920 to end the game, and they throw it to Cooks 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.800 and Cooks has to dive to catch it and instead 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.959 granted great catch by Cook's the end of the game. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.480 Nine times out of ten guys aren't catching that ball, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:26.840 and then the Giants are going to get a very 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:27.920 another possession. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:28.720 Two minutes left in the game. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:33.120 Man, Then I there's a there's a bigger conversation there. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.920 But I loved what Rico Dwell did. I loved what 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.839 Rico Dawell did on Thursday. You know how how pessimistic 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.040 I've been about this run game throughout the season. I'm 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.800 starting to get to a point with Dowell now where 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.800 I see, you know, opportunities for him for the future 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.400 after a game like that. Obviously, rock Hoffin bro I 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.120 told you it is. 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.000 Should have listened to me. I told you put Zach 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:56.360 put Zach Martin on the bench. I didn't say that, 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:57.480 say that when. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.320 He comes on the fan. What's that when sach comes 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:00.960 on the fan. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.000 That he didn't come on the fan? I give I 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:06.600 give Eric. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.360 I used to give Eric Kendricks tips. Did you hear about. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.160 Brian one day? 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.000 One day when you did it and he was you 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.080 could tell he so wanted you to just stop, and 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.360 you would not stopping, like I'm giving you this tip, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.560 like I'm going and he was just like, please stop 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:20.880 giving tips. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.480 It was hilarious, but I keep doing it. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.960 I did stop giving him tips. It was it was. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.680 It was a good tip though, but you know what, 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.400 he wanted me to stop because he knew I was right. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:32.200 It was. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:32.920 It was. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.760 And the thing is when you give the tip, if 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.520 somebody he's got it from that opposing to be listening. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.840 Now they know, oh he's clued in on this tip, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.920 maybe we ought to do something about So. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:43.840 It was like game related. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.840 Brian was basically scouting scouting. Yeah, he was giving him. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.560 I was giving a sky go listen when you see this. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.920 This is what's he goes. Why I watched the film 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.400 and I'm going, okay, but let me just tell you 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:57.320 what I say. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.960 And said it before he said it when he said 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.320 I got a tip for you, and he was like, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.080 you know that, whenever you see this, you could just 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.200 you could just hear in Eric's voice like he just. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.600 Stop right there, please stop right there. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.440 And Brian just runs right into it, like here's when 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.720 you see this guy and he does this. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:14.600 This is what's coming. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.360 Just But Eric doesn't like to give you when you 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.600 ask him about like schemes, he doesn't even want to 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.240 talk about. No, he does it. So I end up 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.960 asking questions about what kind of knives you use in 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:25.880 the kitchen, you. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.360 Know, what kind of Ryan's advanced scouting on it, scouting 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:30.320 on he's a big car guy. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:31.560 Yeah, he is a big car guy. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.080 Hey, if you guys happen to see anything when it 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.760 comes to ecodwa, did you see anything different that Dallas 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.280 was doing with the run game, with maybe the kinds 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.520 of plays they were using, the kinds of blocking schemes, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.200 anything different that would point to why they saw a 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.720 different results or was it simply we committed to it 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:46.520 and that's the result. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.280 I wouldn't say this is a major thing that's helped, 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.480 but it allowed one of those two big games that 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:54.320 I talked about. Jonathan Mingo is a really useful guy. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.000 As far as getting some space outside, you talk about 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.080 receiving receiver blockers. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:15:59.960 We throw him a good path. 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:06.480 Yeah yeah, yeah, he could block. He could certainly block. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.680 But it's helping the run game. It's obviously not the 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.160 biggest contributor. But it's something that I noticed off rip. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.040 Their tight ends are actually blocking span Ford, Schoonmaker, those 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.120 guys are actually getting like they're getting. They're getting combination 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.520 blocks like Steel and Hoffman. We're doing a really good 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.520 job of handling that, getting those down guys secured. They're there, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.920 but the point of attack tight end blocks have been better, 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.880 like span Ford has like it's like all of a sudden, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.360 it's all this playing time for him has made him 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.800 like a little bit more like, oh okay, I guess 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.960 I'm gonna have to do this. Either that or they're 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:40.680 not gonna play me. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.240 But that's what they saw in him man, when they kept. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:43.440 Him with. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.560 The things that have happened. The combination block, and we keep 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.040 we keep laughing about this. They do have a healthy 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.800 body at right guard. A healthy body at right guard 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.600 does make a difference. And then you get the combination 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:01.200 of Hoffman and then Steel. We're and stuff well together. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.359 Daddle runs tough. Then you get point of attack tight 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.560 end blocking that's helped. So yeah, it's really it's it's 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:14.720 been to me and there wasn't. Sometimes it's such predictability 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.560 with this offense. The second down run. You know, you're like, oh, well, 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.000 here comes the second down run. You know here he's 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.480 kind of mixing matching his runs a little bit better, 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.920 and I think that's helping the situation as well. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:28.520 Could I mention one thing about the running game or 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.120 out of the break? Okay, Ezekiel Elliott at this point 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.879 one carry during the game. He only had nine snaps 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.040 in the entire day season low. He didn't have any 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.240 snaps in pass protection. Let's elevate my league, Davis, see 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.400 what he's got. Let's see what you got going into 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.199 the offseason. You haven't seen what the kid can do. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.440 Get You couldn't get You couldn't get Cook on the roster. 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:50.199 What are you trying to do? 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.560 Exactly? Yeah, yeah, he had his opportunity to give Davis 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:53.080 his opportunity. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.639 Let's do it. He's saying at this point, just what 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:55.199 are you gonna do? 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:55.920 Cook? 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.679 You gonna I mean, you're gonna have to give him 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:58.960 a You say, bring him up for a week. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.000 Is that what you're saying, Davis? 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.520 Yeah, bring him up for a week. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:03.280 See just got I. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.320 Love how you think we would actually get to see. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:08.800 That like a GM. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.639 All right, we have completely forgotten that Malie Davis is 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:12.000 on this rock. 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:13.200 I mean we have to see him. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.439 We know, we know what he can do though, I 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.880 mean we've seen him play. He's a he's a good back. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.040 Just I don't know, he's a great bag. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:20.119 He's a good good back. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.000 Just keep giving Rico Dowbell the carry. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.240 Agree, Just just stick with what you mean. What do 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:24.760 you just work? 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:25.000 Now? 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.400 Just get five carries to league days? 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.360 We just hate Rico, do not. Let's go the. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.520 Case he's worked. I think exactly. You need to save 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.400 him for the future. Bring us up, bring thee Davis 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:36.920 up for a week. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.199 So now we're saving people. Okay, all right, let's take 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.240 our first break. When we come back. I do want 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.560 to talk about the left right. 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Jeez, Thursday, they 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:01.200 gave up zero sacks. They had a one hundred yard rusher. 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.160 My question for you guys and Brian you mentioned it earlier. 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.080 Brock Kauflin and brock Kaufman played at right guard in 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.960 place of Zach Martin, who's been out injured. And I 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:14.640 want to be really careful about this because I don't 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:18.520 want anyone to take from this conversation that somehow it's like, oh, 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.720 just discard the longtime great veteran who's headed for the 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:23.840 Hall of Fame and Zach Martin. That is not what 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:27.560 this conversation is about. This conversation is more about the 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:32.240 tactical point of right now, the way brock Kaufman is playing, 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.400 and I think you said it during the break, Nick, 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.320 he has one he's allowed one pressure in the time 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:41.480 that he's played, in the way that he's playing, compared 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:45.320 to what Zach. How Zach has been playing with all 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:48.160 the injuries, which right now, again that's not his fault, 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.160 but he has a ton of injuries and he's really 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.480 trying to battle through it. But you can tell there's 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.760 a marked difference between his normal play and the play 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.240 that he's had this year. Which do you think is 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:01.000 better for the success of this team, A healthy brock 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:02.680 Kauffman or an injured Zach. 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.159 Mart I'm gonna take the names out of it and 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.600 just look at the success. And I think brock Kaffman 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.720 is having more success. And you look at not only 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.399 pass protection, he's only allowed one pressure all season and 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.560 one hundred and eighty three snaps. You look at the 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.320 run game and what they've been able to generate in 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.240 the run game these last two games. You see the 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.080 lanes that they've been able to open up in the 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.200 middle of the offensive line. I credit brock Hoffman a 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.600 lot to that. Obviously Koober BB and Tyler Smith as well, 0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.080 But if I'm looking at results, I see a lot 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:30.639 different results with brock Kaufman. 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.840 And now also let's put it into this equation. 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:38.440 This has been over the last two weeks against the opponents, 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.560 specifically this last week against an opponent like the Giants 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:43.560 that is a less opponent than maybe some that that 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:44.199 Zach is at the. 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.159 Face their best player plays defensive tackle. 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.520 Yeah, he was defense what point. 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.080 Yeah, well at the elbow, yeah, he went down what 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:55.119 third quarter? I think it was late third Yeah, but yeah, they. 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:56.600 He is possible defensive player of the year. 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.680 Yeah, they they double team that dude sixty five percent 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.679 of them When you watch that play, I mean they 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.920 Dallas's plan in the first time these two teams met 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.960 was not to let they double teamed him every pass rush. 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:09.920 You know, they were not going to let him win. 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:16.199 He didn't and he didn't win. You know, it'll be 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.600 it'll be interesting now because basically what you've done is 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:25.280 you've bought You've bought Zach Martin. What now three weeks 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.600 would that be? How you look at this? Right? 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:27.879 With that? 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.520 If you count out the days of the games he's missed, 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.760 you know how, so he's missed. Yeah, but the two 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.720 games were five days apart, so you missed the two games. 0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.280 So you're really looking at that week and then another 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.159 week and now they're going to have a week to 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.560 get ready for this. So it's a Monday night, right? 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:47.480 Is that three weeks? Is that enough time to get 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.320 everything kind of in line again for a push for 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.680 for Zach Martin? Or do you this sounds so bad? 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.520 Do you just keep rolling because you're rolling on offense? 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.960 I mean, I say rolling. You've had your positive running 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.920 game against the Commanders positive running game we've talked about 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:12.280 the Giants. Seems like that in the Commander's game, they thrilled, 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.080 they threw the ball. The protection was good enough. The 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.560 Giants game, the protection was good enough. Do you just 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.120 do you just keep it rolling? Do you just tell 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.400 Zach Martin that we're gonna keep going with this and 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.080 do you rotate him back in? How do you how do. 0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.240 You just tell him like, we're gonna let you keep 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:30.119 getting better. 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.480 Because my assumption with all that you're saying, I'm in 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.760 three weeks, maybe he can't be one hundred percent, So 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.959 we just want you to keep getting better and we'll 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:37.920 wait that out. 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.960 I'm looking forward to watching Cincinnati and they have McKinley Jackson, 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.720 they have Chris Jenkins, they have these rookie defensive tackles, 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.640 BJ Hill, they have They've got all these these guys. 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:53.359 Sheldon Rankins, who they got from Houston is he's hurt, so, 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.760 I mean, I don't know what their defensive tackle situation is. 0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.720 Like it might be where you can once again play 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.919 with brock Hoffman and now you give Zach Martin a 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:07.320 full three weeks and then you get Now you're getting 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.320 in and heck, then you're at Carolina the following week. 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.159 I mean, do you just do you save Zach Martin 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.320 for Philadelphia and the Commanders? I mean, but what if 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.000 you keep winning? What if you keep winning? What if 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.280 you do beat Cincinnati and then what do you do? 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:27.760 Now you beat Carolina, You're back to five hundred. It's crazy, 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.200 you know, And so I mean, I think you'd want 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.880 to have Zach Martin there playing right, But if your 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.639 offense is playing better running the football and the past 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:43.320 protection stuff is better, does Zach Martin become just a 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.400 backup guy? Got? I think I never say that. 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.000 I think it's I like what Nick did. Like if 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:51.040 you do the whole on biased opinion and take the 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.960 name out of it and just look at the plays. 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.080 The position they're playing better, that's. 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.520 What you should rely on. And again, there's no way 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.600 that Zach is back to filling one hundred percent right now. 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.000 I mean, there's always a way, but it's it's one 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:10.879 of those scenarios that you you want to keep seeing 0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.160 what you have in Brockoffman and give him the chance. 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.080 It's going well so far, but also you want to 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.600 protect the health. 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.399 Of your Okay, I got one for you, A G 0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:28.159 seventy two Zach Martin better than brock Hoffman, so specific I. 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:31.440 Not seventy seven. 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:42.679 It depends on where we're just killed. It depends on 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:43.840 where we're at in the season. 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.719 I feel like you're trying to win games. I mean, 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.760 you've got to win. You really can't lose games. 0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.200 Yeah, if you have a shot at the playoffs. The 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.680 playoffs start today. 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:56.040 Every game, every game you play is a playoff game. 0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.200 Every game you play is a playoff game. 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.480 So excu, he's my emergency guy. 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:07.320 Hey, oh gosh, Mancy, because. 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.399 I want him to keep getting healthy and worst case scenario, 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:12.240 come back. We need you. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.119 This might be his last campaign, you know. 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.720 Yeah, we're gonna have the black SUVs take us away 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.240 when we walk out of this podcast studio. It's gonna 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:24.479 get bad. I I would go with Brockoffin in that equation. 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.960 A seventy two percent. Yeah, Zach Martin, not better than bet, 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.720 not better than off. 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.120 Give me the seventy two percent, Zach. Now, if you'd 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.480 gone to sixty nine percent, I would have changed. 0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:40.560 Seventy two percent. I'm taking. That's passing, Zach, Yeah, exactly taking. 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:44.239 I just want what's better for Sack. I care so 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.880 much about it. No, but it's it's a. 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.800 Tough is this is the okay? Is it is? It? 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.320 Is this the same situation they went through with Romo 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.840 and Dak in twenty sixteen. 0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.920 I think it's a little different just because of the position. 0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.719 I do think the position colors at a lot. 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.360 It's a lot different. There, different I think there. I 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:05.840 think there is a comparison you can make. I just 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:07.440 need to think of one off the top of my head. 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:13.000 Well, that's an easier switch, you know, versus you designing man. 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.960 There were people that wanted they wanted Tony back in there. 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.600 No, that was a hard decision, I think for the organization. 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:22.800 I remember, Yeah, there were some people that did want 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:23.280 him back in. 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.920 Yeah. When do you not play Zach Martin? I mean, 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.920 do you just because things are rolling along? I mean 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:28.920 at least through two games. 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.960 Well, let's also I think part of the thing is 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:36.000 the situation back then that was like that was the 0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:40.560 results were so spectacular that. 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.560 Year, like you beat Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh you. 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.040 Were just doing some things that year that just felt like, man, 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.280 this team is really rolling in a way that they 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.320 haven't really rolled in a while, and from the standpoint 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.240 of just the excitement that it that it built, and 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:56.920 and you have to factor that in when you think 0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:00.280 about the locker room, like if you there's more that 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:04.960 could go wrong with replacing Dak with Romo then with 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.720 staying the course, is the way I look at it, 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.360 and so I think it made sense and so but 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.920 but I don't think I think that was so different 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.000 than this like this season has been in most people's. 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.720 Estimations, a disappointment. 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.120 Has So from that standpoint, I think it's a little 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.800 bit of a different equation of well, yeah, you could 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.840 trade them back in or or not trade them back in. 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:26.760 If you put Zack back in, is he gonna make 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.480 that big of a difference where now they aren't gonna 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.080 make this improbable run. I don't know that you could 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:33.960 make that argument. So I think it's a little bit 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:35.440 different from that standpoint. 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:37.880 Yeah, I don't see it the same as as Dak 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.120 and Romo. If that's the question, Yeah, that was, Yeah, 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.120 I don't see the same. I don't see it the 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:42.560 same at. 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.120 All, not at all, not at all. 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.000 But I see where you're going with it. I'm trying 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.920 to think of like a more similar comparison. 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.320 Talking about you're talking about like you're like a like 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.560 a A. Okay, I'm just gonna say this in a 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.560 nice way. A journeyman right guard who's played really well 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.520 the last couple of weeks, Yeah, is he better than 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.160 playing with a Hall of Fame guard who is dealing 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.440 with a lot of injuries. See this is where this 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.160 is also I make it sound really dire. 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:08.960 Then this is also. 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.680 Where you know you think you factor in the human element. 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.400 So let's say, for example, if you're playing I don't 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.800 want to get too crazy, but if you're playing mad, 0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.520 if you're playing Madden and you got two players like this, 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.120 then you just take the player that has played better. 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.440 Whatever player is playing better, that's the player you take. 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.120 If if when you're dealing with humans, though, there's this 0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:30.400 element of man. 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.000 I've seen Zach be dominant. 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.680 We've seen him struggle, and that's because he's really I 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.200 think banged up, right, I get that. 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.520 But what I'm saying is I think for the coaches, 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.840 after giving him, let's say, three weeks to get healthy, 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.680 if he comes to you and says, coach, I'm good, 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.560 I can go believe him. You're gonna believe him right, 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.520 and by the way, he's earned that right. And so 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:55.320 this is not just a easy decision of this guy's 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.400 playing better, this guy was not playing well. 0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.840 It is there's a human factor in it. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.200 The human factor means that this guy that wasn't playing 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.320 as well because you trust him because of the history has, 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.479 if he says he can go, you're gonna throw him 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:07.920 out there. 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:08.239 No matter what. 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.440 That's what I was gonna say, Like he I don't 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.040 see Zach being the type of person that would come 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.040 in here and like throw a fit and be like 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.160 if he's not ready, if it's not if it's not ready, 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.960 and he like he he is a true professional, and 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.200 he he's not naive or blind. He can see everything 0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.160 and like know exactly what's happening. And I don't think 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.120 he would be one that if it's not ready, just 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.120 because of pride, he would try to throw a fit 0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.880 over there and argue like, no, put me out there now, 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:44.760 Rummel Again, different personalities, different scenarios. I'm not trying to 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:52.320 say nothing, but I'm saying I'm just say this, it's 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:56.240 a different scenario here. I think Zach and I agree 0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.000 with you, if he would be like, hey, I feel good, 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.400 I feel ready. There's no reason why not to listen 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:02.760 to him. 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:04.800 Okay, you don't even think about it. 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.080 You put really bad. What if this was a four 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.840 game winning streak? What you got going with, sack nothing, 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.840 I'm just no, no, I'm just with you. I'm just asking, 0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:15.680 I'm just seeing how committed you are. 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.680 I'm my evaluation is still the same. It's a four 0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:19.240 game win streak. 0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.520 Because because it's four game win streak, then I'm like, well, 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.760 Zach said, now what five weeks. 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.280 To get healthy? You give me a healthy Zach Martin. 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:30.080 I'm taking him over anybody on this offensive offensive maybe 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:30.600 Tyler Smith. 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.600 You're putting tank back in their over Golston, right, yes, yeah. 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.560 Yes, yes, when he's healthy, I'm putting it back in 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:36.840 there because of the history. 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:42.400 Come on, I trust the history. 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:44.000 Ask I mean, the last time we saw him on 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.040 the field, he was still a really good player. 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.720 The last time we saw Zach healthy, he was still 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:49.560 a really good player. 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.800 So I don't know if we've seen Zach healthy all year. 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:53.520 I agree with that. 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.640 I agree with that last time we saw him healthy 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.160 was last season, and last season he was a really 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:57.560 good player. 0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.000 Yeah, so it's tough to have this conversation. 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.120 Watch not be able to run the ball this week, 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.120 and you guys are liking to be like screaming at 0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:05.000 your into the press. 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:09.560 Come save usore, we do it. 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Back to the break. 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.520 At and T connecting changes everything. 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.360 Well back, we were in the final segment of the 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.759 break Life from this WBC Mortgage Studios at the star 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.319 let's talk about Cooper Rush. He was twenty one to 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.120 thirty six, fifty eight percent completion rate, one hundred and 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.600 ninety five passing yards, one touchdown, no interceptions, eighty two 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.479 point five rating by all accounts, a very solid day. 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.960 Nothing crazy, nothing crazy bad. How would you assess this 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:20.960 play from that game? 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.320 This looked like the twenty twenty two Cooper Rush because 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.080 he had a running game. He didn't try to do 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.439 too much, he was calculated, he didn't force anything, and 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.040 he had a healthy running game to help support that. 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.120 And it looked like a twenty twenty two offense in 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:35.560 that sense. 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.359 Yeah, the balls is not going down the field though, 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.960 very much, right, I mean, everything is kind of you know, 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.120 but when Cooper Rush doesn't turn over the ball, they 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.600 have a chance to win. When he does, they're going 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.320 to lose. It's just the way it is. So you 0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.200 still kind of you know, you're kind of looking for 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.480 a little bit more. That's my worry about some of 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.960 these games that you're going to have to try and 0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:03.440 wine down the stretch here if you yeah, Philly, Cincinnati, 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.799 since Tampa, that guy, you know, Baker Mayfield, the way 0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.319 he plays. I mean, if if you're gonna really be 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.640 in this thing, you're gonna have to go win those games. 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:16.719 And can Cooper rush generate enough offense if done turn 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.400 the ball over? Got a chance. But you know five, 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.680 you know, if you look at all the metrics and 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.680 all that, he's one of the he's one of the 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.000 he's one of he's near the bottom and most every 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:33.040 metrics there is for a quarterback. So you know, Dallas's defense, 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.799 they're special teams. That's gonna be a big calling card there. 0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.319 The ability to run the football, you know, like but 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:44.000 you're gonna have to play great defense and hope, like 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.440 hell that he could find some offense somewhere that Ceedee 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.160 Lamb can get going, you know, and you know, and 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.760 and maybe they found something with Turpin getting him more involved, 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.680 getting him down the field. But you know, we'll see 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.120 how that all plays out. I I have my doubts 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.160 because I think Cooper Rush is who Cooper Rush is. 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.120 There's not gonna be anything spectacular. And you know you're 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:11.120 going in all these games likely being the quarterback that 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.800 you're playing against is probably the better quarterback on the field. 0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.160 So it's a healthy Trey Lance better than a banged 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:16.600 up Cooper. 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.799 You know, I'm a feeling. I have my feelings. I 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:24.160 have my feelings about how to win these football games. Yeah, 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.640 and I think late in the year, I think it 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.239 would be really difficult for an NFL defense to have 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.840 to get ready to play against Trey Lance running the football. 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.440 I think you can. I think you can scheme and 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.359 and there's gonna be some games where you're gonna if 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.759 you're if you think you're going to shoot out, and 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.399 you might have to. You might have to shoot out. 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.080 I shouldn't use that term. But you're gonna have to 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.520 like play at a very high four. Yeah, you have 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.000 to play at a very high level to beat Cincinnati 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.040 because of their offense. You know they're gonna put Dallas's 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.920 defense is going to have their handsful, but on defense, 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.640 but they're playing better. You know they could. They could. 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.799 They're capable of playing really well. And but we keep 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.719 going back to how many three and outs are you 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.839 gonna have? How many you know, how many missed opportunities 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:11.640 are you going to have in the red zone? How 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.480 many times are you going to get down there, you know, 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.359 first and eight and have to kick a field goal. 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:17.960 I'm glad you brought up red zone, and I know 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.160 it's a much different situation. But you look at what 0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.680 Texas did in College Station on Saturday. Yeah, Saturday, My 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:25.520 days are all messed up. When they bring in arch 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:26.600 Manning in the red zone. 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.200 They had a specific package from him in the red zone. 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:30.279 It works perfect, It. 0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:31.759 Works perfect, well well done. 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.240 And when and when Dallas has these red zone issues, 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:35.640 why not integrate trade lance? 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:40.040 It's it's it's like copying. We don't like your copy. 0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:41.120 What works? 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:45.560 I got to college, speaking of college. 0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:48.200 Young people out there a couple of years. 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.759 Mister Broughts, why are you wearing a hat today? I 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:53.680 never wear a hat. 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:59.840 You're still you're still seeing the same missions that you 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.799 still like you had with dak in there. Sure it 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.680 still does like none of that, none of those problems 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:11.919 that you were having offensively have improved whatsoever. It does 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.560 help when you create that balance offense like you guys 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.279 mentioned having that running game, but as soon as a 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.080 defense is able to take that running game that recently 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:24.640 started to reappear, you're I don't think you still. I 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.320 don't think you can do enough because you haven't shown 0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:31.600 that you can offensively. And Cooper he can have some 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.239 good throws, but then there's a bunch that are just 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.719 like very close, and you're like, why why did you 0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.400 throw the ball right there? And I mentioned Mingo earlier. 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.279 I think he had I don't know how many, but 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.160 there were several missed opportunities there that had the ball 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.759 been thrown just a little bit better, he would have 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:49.160 caught that. 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.279 I know. The one thing about Trey Lance his arm 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:55.719 is stronger than what sure. I mean, you watch him throw, 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.040 and sure it could go all over the place. You 0:41:58.080 --> 0:41:59.600 could go to the other team, you know. 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.120 But so what I want to think is the reason 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.960 why we haven't actually seen more of Trey Lance. 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:11.120 Because because Cooper Rush has proven he can win games 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:12.040 and not mess it up. 0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.560 And let's be clear, I'm not saying I necessarily want 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.719 to see more of Trey Lance. I just want to 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.719 see them being I want to see some designed like 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:22.719 when they when they brought him in these last two games, 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.239 it almost felt like it was just kind of the 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:26.000 cursory thing. 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.680 Okay, let's get Trey in there and give them some reps. 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:29.640 Purpose. 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.759 Yeah, it felt like a preseason game where you kind 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.640 of just want to see instead of like you said 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.719 with the Texas game, it was clear they had a package. 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.640 When we get to the red zone, we're going to 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.160 pull this out and we're going to try these things 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.040 that's going to give the defense something different than what 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.680 we've necessarily shown, and we're going to take advantage of 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.560 this player's specific skills. 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:50.759 That's what I want to see. 0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.440 I want to see them try something in a specific 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:57.520 moment in games where there's a big opportunity to be 0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.760 able to take advantage of something because of this players 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:00.839 you need skills. 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.160 And then give them a play that's unique to their skills. 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:03.480 You know. 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.359 Yeah, So it's not more, it's not more, it's just well, 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:08.040 I'm more. 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.879 I mean exactly what you said, Okay, good, more, but 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.560 in a better way with the purpose, because just like 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.359 you said, the times that we have seen him in there, 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.200 you're like, what, like, what are we doing here? It 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.440 doesn't seem it just seems like you're just throwing him 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.960 out there just for the fun of it. You really 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.560 don't have a true plan behind it or a design 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.120 play that plays into his abilities, like you said, And 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.319 I think that's where they could get so creative and 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.040 just have the best of both things. Use Trey Lance 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.880 and then Cooper Rush with what he can do. 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:41.000 Not all good. 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.120 I'll say, you don't want to see Trey Lance start 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:43.640 these games? 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.200 No, no, you don't. I think Cooper still gives you 0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:46.800 the best. 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.440 Team, and we saw some of that in the Preseeds. 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.680 I think Cooper still gives you the best chance to win. 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.160 I think that Trey Lance right now is and I 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:55.839 don't want to son a bad term, because I think 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.120 it's a good term. He's a gadget player right now. 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.120 He's a guy that that you can pull out, and 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.560 he has some really unique skills that if you use 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.640 him the right way, you could throw something at teams 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.279 that they're just not They can't they haven't prepared for 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.560 in the way that they've prepared for Cooper Rush, and 0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.040 you can take advantage of it if you do it. 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:11.279 Well. 0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.760 See it's funny. I just looked up something just because 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:18.959 I was curious. They call this like the identity check. 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.880 You know in Next Gen you ever see that Derek 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:25.040 identity check. They see no need to blitz Cooper rush. 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.840 His five point three yards per attempt versus four or 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.720 fewer rushers is the second fewest in the NFL. 0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:35.040 Yeah, So he's just intentionally very he's. 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.880 Very conservative the way that he plays football. 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.560 At Brandon Whedon when he's here, Yeah. 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.080 And you're kind of like you're kind of sitting there 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.160 like going, okay, well, you know, thank god you got 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:48.799 overshown in Parsons and Bland and all these guys back, 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.560 because if you're sitting there, you're just you know, if 0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.600 you're a pastor and your five point three yards an 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.920 attempt and not even against the blitz just four man 0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.960 rush man, that that's that's that's asking way too much 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:03.319 of your your team right there. 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.600 All right, we appreciate you guys. Jonas will be back tomorrow. 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.520 We'll have a little game from Brian will look some. 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.920 Big pictures, just half my questions topics. 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.360 And get through that one tomorrow till then for Nick Harris, 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.160 Brian brought a Sandbergarci. I'm Derek hil from This has 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.680 been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.680 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.800 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.