WEBVTT - Mistakes Don’t Define Marion 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.120 Hey, the folks in this episode, our conversation with the 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:09.600 woman who once held the title of fastest woman in 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.360 the world, Marion Jones. And with that, welcome to Amy 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.880 and DJ and your Lasting image Robe. Do you hear 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.560 the name Marion Jones? And what is the image that 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:18.000 comes to me? 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:23.280 That big, beautiful smile, just that release of joy, like 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.599 this is somebody who worked her butt off and she didn't. 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.600 It's just hearing your voice. You sound like you only 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.839 have happy thoughts, right right. We know the story that ensued, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.360 But the same with me. The only image I have 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.440 is that big smile of hers holding that gold medal 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.239 up to that big smiling face. That is the image. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:45.599 I had to think for a little while to come 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.400 up with the other image of her crying at a 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.080 podium admitting that she had lied and took steroids. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.600 Correct And also, in knowing that we were doing this interview, 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.840 I learned things that I hadn't realized before that she 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.600 had actually gone to prison, spent a lot of time 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.839 behind bars, and completely then decided to take a step 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.600 back from the spotlight. All together, these are all huge 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.399 transformative moments that happened to her in her twenties, the 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.240 greatest of successes and then the lowest of lows. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.320 And it's tough she was, and it's remind her. I 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.080 know that legacy is tainted, but she had accomplished so 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.920 much in her career. And look, she's admitted the things 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.479 she's done wrong, but there is some talent and some 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.600 a lot and not just not some, a lot of 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.560 talent and a lot of hard work behind what she did. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.640 She was a world champion shell forget she played basketball. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.080 It knows Romana and won a championship there, so she 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.120 has a world class athlete. But that scandal kind of 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.680 tainted everything. But to talk to her now, it sounds 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.240 like that was only the jumping off point to what 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.480 is now going to be her greatest legacy. Was cool 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:57.600 to hear her kind of talk about that. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:58.200 Isn't it true? 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.680 Though? Because for anyone who has achieved something great but 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.400 then had something taint their lives, so you don't want 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.640 to be defined by your worst mistake. And if anything, 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.280 any one of us who has lived enough life knows 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.760 it's those mistakes. It's those moments of poor choices or failures, 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.000 whatever you want to call them, that made you say 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.640 I got to do something different. I got to make 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.239 a change. I have to change the trajectory of my life. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.280 And that's exactly what she did in so many ways. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.639 And her children are her legacy. How she's living her 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.639 life is what she wants to become her greatest legacy. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.800 Their children are her legacy. Folks. True story that we 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.120 had to cut the interview short because she had to 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.240 get a kid off to school. So it's kind of 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.400 cool to see her forty nine years old now and 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.400 just where she is in her life and looks like 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.120 she is happy as all get out. So, folks, enjoy 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.600 our conversation with the Marion Jones. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.239 How are you doing? How are you feeling today? 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:57.840 And welcome? 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.360 Yes, thank you, thank you both. I'm excited to chat 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.560 with you. I'm doing well. You know, it has been 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:13.200 a whirlwinds year for me. I made certain certain specific 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.200 choices to step away from the spotlight and the public 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.560 eye for almost a decade right after everything went down, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.920 and it was all very purposeful, y'all. I have three 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.920 beautiful kids now they're nearly grown. But I made the 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.040 choice that for my own mental health and for the 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.200 lives of my kids, I wanted to pour into them, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.800 and I thought that a distraction would be the spotlight, 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.000 and so it was purposeful. But in that I always 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:52.120 knew that my reach, my public reach, my platform was 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.880 something unique and special. And even though right like there 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.560 was success on the track and I was blessed with 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:03.040 talent and speed, there is I don't want to speak 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.200 in the third person in the past, but there is 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.640 something unique about my ability to connect with people. Right 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.280 There have been a lot of Olympians, there have been 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.640 a lot of gold medalists, but very few have I think, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.720 had the ability to connect with the world like I did. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.159 And it's more than just me being able to run 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.120 from here to there very fast. And in that ten 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:31.200 year Hiatus, I knew that I still had a stage 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.320 and a platform to share, to share my experiences with 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:39.080 the hopes of helping people who have been through hard 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.359 times come back from then I was just waiting for 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.240 that time. So in that ten years you didn't see me, 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:50.440 but I was busy rebranding, creating my own narrative, refusing 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:55.000 to allow the media the world to create my narrative. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.960 That that was my time to rebrand so that I 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.719 can still have a platform. And so this past year, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.760 I said, you know, my kids are older, two of 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.960 them out of the house, they're in college, one about 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.479 to be out of the house. Now's the time. They're good, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.360 they are healthy, Amy and TJ. They are thriving in 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.880 their own world. Now it's time for me now to 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.120 step back on the stage. And what do I have 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.560 to give to the public. What in essence, why am 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:24.520 I currently relevant? And it's it's it makes me smile 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.279 that there is an audience, that there are people like 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.839 you TJ and you Amy who remember me and remember 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.719 that there is there's something more like what is she 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.520 doing right? And I don't think that happens with every 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.479 former athlete, And so I'm excited to be able to 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:48.520 share my experiences with people, mainly but but really giving 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.320 people this sense of hope, which I think we really 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.760 really need in this day and time, that once you 0:05:54.920 --> 0:06:01.560 make a choice good bad in between, and maybe there's 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.400 a setback of some sort, that your world doesn't have 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.839 to end, that you don't have to crawl under a rock, 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:14.240 that you can still rebrand and rename and get yourself 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.600 back out there in a positive light with the hopes 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.960 that you can help people live a better life. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.120 Well, Mary, you said, you said you have this ability, 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.360 and maybe some of it is natural disability to connect 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.800 with people, certainly through your story, through your talent, and 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.880 through the huge platform that you had. But do you 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.080 find yourself these days when you're trying to connect with people, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.800 do you find we're so you're trying to tell them, 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.080 appreciate to them to not make some of the same 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.400 mistakes you made, or do you find yourself teaching more 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.000 lessons about this is what you do when you make 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.840 those mistakes that are now necessary and we're even necessary 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.520 for you to be sitting here in the headspace that you're. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.839 Tj a little bit of both. I share with people 0:06:55.000 --> 0:07:00.240 that I am unique in that a former goal medalist 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.960 and former fastest woman in the world. Not a lot 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.520 of people can relate to that. But I think our 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:13.000 common bond is that everybody on this planet can or 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:18.960 will experience some type of setback or some type of failure, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.720 or some type of something that knocks you off of 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.440 your feet. It can. I mean, it might not be 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.920 on the grand scale potentially that mine was or that 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.720 y'all's were or whatever, but people can relate to a 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:36.800 park happy everybody right and so that is how we 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.240 are unique. And I think that is what makes potentially 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.520 me a little more relatable. When you say, oh, I 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.520 can't relate or she man, she ran this, or she 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.840 had a gold medal, or she was on the cover 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.800 of Vogue or this, people can't relate to that. But 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.360 when you say, you know what, have you ever been 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.600 knocked down? Have you ever been a product of divorce? 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.920 Have you ever been bankrupt? Have you ever told a lie? 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.360 And you're like, shit, how do I make this right? 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.880 Most people can understand that. And so that's what I 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.480 share that it doesn't have to knock you down. You 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.280 deal with it, obviously, you deal with the consequences. Mine 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.520 were severe. Y'all's were severe, right, Like, we all deal 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:22.360 with it. But to me, it makes our testimony like 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.960 and are the fact that And let me give you 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.880 a quick example. You know, I have kids, they have 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:32.520 done sports, and I found that even with my own kids, 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.319 when they were growing up and they had coaches, they 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.920 would listen to their coaches, who maybe had a junior 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:45.719 high athletic experience over their mamas. Right, that's about right. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.080 Kids are the same When you say, hey, like my 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.280 coach or my mentor or the person who's teaching me 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.280 something has really been through it. Like, doesn't that give 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.640 you like a little more mph to want to listen 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.080 to say? You know what, like if she or he 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.880 or they have been through what they've been through and 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:11.520 they're showing me how they can rebrand and rename and 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:16.480 put themselves out there whereby you know, the TJ's and 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.600 Amys and Robins and whomever in the world still want 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.040 to hear their voice and their experiences. Maybe I should, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.440 Maybe I should take note right that you don't have 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:37.800 to just give up when life knocks you down. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:40.120 And how often do you talk to people and you 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:44.160 get introduced, right, if it's an interview like this, where 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.520 how long does it take right talking to you before 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.600 anything related to a scandal gets brought up? 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:52.160 Right? 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.679 It's because, let me say you, like this from our experience, 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.280 it took a while to where we're like, oh wow, okay, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.760 we're actually just normal people who are in reallytionationship instead 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.520 of scandalous this or the form or that. Right, does 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.160 it take a while? Is it starting to happen? 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:07.440 Do you? 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.839 Like, I know it's always going to be a part 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.840 of your story, but does it move way down in 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.880 terms of who Marion Jones is. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.480 I'm not at that place yet, TJ. When I'm introduced, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:25.200 I am generally introduced as former Olympian gold medalists who 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.600 had being stripped because of poor choices that she made whatever, right. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:33.120 What what I do find there's an area of growth 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:37.720 in my story is that after I am introduced and 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:43.280 after five minutes into our conversation right where it's addressed, 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.120 I don't run away from it. We talk about it 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.360 more choices, I lie, right, and I let down a 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.800 nation in a world. I get it at the age 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:57.319 of twenty something years old. Right, five minutes, maybe a 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.000 few more, and then I'm able rights put out there. Right, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.560 I have attacked it. I have addressed it. And so 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.920 the rest of the interview or whatever it. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.520 Is, we talk about what I want to talk about, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.000 really right, which is how to help people live a 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.240 better life, how to help people get it have a 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.040 comeback which everybody can experience. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.520 And I find that that is what is changing. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:21.120 Right. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:26.280 Sure, the introduction might likely stay similar for however long, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:32.000 but the ninety five percent of the content of our 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.920 interaction has nothing to do with that, and it's going 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.320 to get less and less and less and less, and 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.960 I'm okay with that as long as I see forward movement. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.559 Yeah, and you are doing that a triathlon? Why the triathlon? 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.840 And I'm just curious because for those of us who 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.280 don't know, because I get confused, what does that intel? 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.240 Obviously there are three different sports, and I know it 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.560 involves running, cycling, and swimming, I believe, But tell us 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.680 what you're in for. You're doing this in how to correct, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:01.880 in may correct. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.520 So it's always been on my bucket list, even when 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:11.280 I competed. The athletes in that sport are built different, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:17.720 not just physically, but their mindsets is different. It is 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.280 similar to how I function, how I think in my 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:26.040 normal life right where you get obsessed with something right, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.400 get obsessed with your training, your nutrition, how you live. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.280 And it's the only way that you could succeed in 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.280 that sport by balancing all of those three things right, 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.640 which I think right now TJ and Amy is perfect 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.920 in my life because my constant challenge is how do 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.360 I balance? As you get older? It's all about balancing, right. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.720 Like I teach my clients, it is a circle of 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.680 life and the goal is for everything to be green. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:54.960 Which means good. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:55.679 Right. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.120 There might be some areas that are green, there are 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.000 some areas that are orange, and there's a few that 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.360 are red. The goal is for a balance and figuring 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.240 that out. At almost the age of fifteen, I couldn't 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:13.480 think of a more a better sport, a challenge to 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.760 choose than a try because I have to learn how 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.400 to balance all of them, which for me is a challenge, right, 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.120 Like I'll tell you endurance side not my jam. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:21.719 Right. 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:27.880 Do I run a few miles every day? Sure? Three macs? Right? 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.400 Do I know how to bike? Yes, because I have 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.680 kids and we used to go around the block. Do 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:39.160 I know how to handle power and cadence when it 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.000 comes to a bike a cycle? I do not. So 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.160 there's my challenge. Let's talk swim for a second. Do 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.120 I know how to swim? Do I know how not 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.160 to drown? Yes? I have kids, You're right, like, hey, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.120 let me jump in the pool and play with them. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.280 But do I know how to Do I know a 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.600 swim stroke? Do I know how to breathe properly? Do 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.400 I know how to keep my hips up and keep 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.120 my court? I do not. So the challenge of an 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:08.439 athlete former athlete in particular elite athlete to have to 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.320 figure out this balance at this point in her life 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:16.040 when now, TJ, I'm not paying to do triathlons, right, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.720 this is my choosing. 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.080 You have pay to enter the triathlon. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.680 In addition balancing everything else in my life. Right, So, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.640 at the end of this try experience, and I don't 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.640 know when the end will be. Most likely it's not 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.360 going to be when I'm done with my first one, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.520 because I'm gonna get hooked, right, But the challenge for 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.840 me is how do I create green in not just 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.080 my try journey, but in all of the other relationships 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:47.200 in my life, my business, my career, my everything like 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.120 that to me is success at this point. So that's 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.080 kind of in a nutshell, Amy, That's why I'm doing it. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.840 How many how many miles are in the triathlon? 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:57.960 Yeah, let's back up. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.440 You said you only we run about three miles max, 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.200 But how many you got them run in the travelin? 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.560 Well, I have chosen for my first try to be 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.800 a sprint trye. So they're different, right, Like there is 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:18.160 an iron Man iron woman distance. We are not there yet, friends, right, 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:22.200 I am literally walking before I run. Okay, And so 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.840 in the sprint try, I mean specifics. I think it's 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.000 a little over three miles, right, so it's a much 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:34.840 dial down version. But I know me right, I know 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.240 I'm gonna crush it. I know all this, and I'm 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.600 gonna be challenged, which I already have been by my 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.560 try coach, Like I am looking for X, Y, and 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.760 Z after this, So the first one will be mild. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.360 I like how you said the first one, so there 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.320 are more to come. And I'm curious as you talk 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.080 about how you're introduced and how you always have to 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.240 at least address or explain your history. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.840 How do you hope in this next. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.720 Check of your life where you are looking at everything 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.080 green and you're rewriting, or at least you're creating your 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.720 next chapter, how do you want people to introduce you 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.040 in ten years? 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.800 Yeah? Right, ten years? And know that's a good question. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:22.000 I know that ultimately, I would love for my name 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:31.880 to be synonymous with people whom it struggled to navigate 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:37.240 stardom right, but figured it out, figured it out and 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:42.920 ultimately poured into the lives of people who around her 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.760 like that. That would be a great legacy for me 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.880 to have in ten years. I would hope people will 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.440 just say, wow, right, a talent, right, and maybe they'll 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.360 throw in a waste of talent. I don't think so, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.800 because my talent has not just the physical. My ability 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.960 to motivate and coach and train and provide inspiration to 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.960 people is also a talent. Now you'll know everybody doesn't 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.800 have that, right, and so being able to foster that, 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.439 learn that create, cultivate that to me as a talent. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.679 And so in ten years, I would hope that the 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:24.080 people who've the people's lives whom I have positively influenced, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:29.080 is however many more than what it was before I started. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.080 Right or people initially heard my name and were like, ah, no, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.560 she's done. I don't want to hear from her, but 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.679 I sort of get something out of her story. And 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.760 if you've used it to I've used it to apply 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.960 to my own life, even if it's just a few 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.320 people's success. But I know it's going to be, however 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:46.280 many much more than that. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.000 You know as well, to think the whole world is 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.240 watching you and Sydney, and we've talked about all the 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.439 people you inspire hired by your brilliant talent obviously, but 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.800 the thing that that might not even be your greatest impact. 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.879 That you're putting something together in your life now you 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.480 could have more of an impact on people's lives post 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.200 all of that than you ever did when they saw you. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:14.480 But goldmells around you and TJ. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.439 It's not even an if, right, Like it's not to me, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.320 it's not even an if, And it's it's what I 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:24.280 share with the athletes that are achieving success right now. 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:31.280 Right whereby we only have athletes entertainers, We really only 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:35.800 have that big platform for a certain amount of time, right, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.080 how do you capitalize on it? Right? Like these these 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.600 young athletes, they win a gold medal, right, they're on 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.800 the cover, they're making millions right now, but their window 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.600 is so short. Now if they squander that away with 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:54.000 silly stuff on social media or right like they are 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:58.200 doing themselves such a disservice, why not in that window 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:02.880 of fame which is limited, once again, they attach their 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:10.040 brand to something bigger than sport, right, whatever that could be, 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.439 whether it's about climate change or the homeless or whatever, 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.760 like something that you are truly passionate about, passionate about, 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.040 not just something that's going to you know, get a 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:23.960 quick audience. You will extend the life of your fame 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:30.960 ten years, twenty years, thirty years, and hopefully truly impact people, 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.880 because I know that me running from here to there 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.800 impacted the lives of people. I'm sure in a positive way. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.920 But really, when you really look at the grand scope 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.639 of the platform that you can really get if you 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.800 truly are passionate about something bigger than sport man, that 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.960 could be something special in your life. So I love you, know, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:52.880 and Mary, and I love you. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.359 Just turned forty nine, and so many of our listeners 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.199 are women, and I'm in my fifties already, and I 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.040 love hearing, especially someone who has such an accomplished past. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:04.840 And you were killing it in your twenties. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.960 But now to be two decades older and to be 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:14.000 wiser and as TJ said, slower but go ahead, the. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:15.560 Impact could be greater. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:19.600 And I'm just that that thought that we have a 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.760 lot left in our tank to get in different ways. 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.320 And it's a beautiful message to all of us out 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.480 there that we still have value and we still have worth, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.120 and we have so much more to give. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.600 Perfect well said Amy, And really the best is yet 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.840 to come, and the best is yet to come, y'all. 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.320 I believe that for y'all, for me, and Pete looked 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.240 him knock down, and here you're like, you know what, No, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.760 it's not who I am. Like that, my biggest mistake, 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:49.320 my biggest setback, does not define who I am. 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.600 I wish folks could see and we all fell in 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.119 love with a smile twelve years ago in Sydney. But 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.760 you still have that great smile and glow and energy 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:58.719 and you look like there is not a weight on 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.640 your shoulder in the least. You just look wonderful. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:02.399 Marian. 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.280 Really, if you have to go run one hundred meter 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.000 right now, what time could you put up? 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:13.120 Well, since we were briefly speak talking about knees earlier, 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.119 let's first put that out in the universe. I have 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.080 grade four arthritis in both of my nis. All right, 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.480 I am, But I am an adrenaline junkie, which means 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.280 that when I train and work out, I don't feel 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.400 it right. I feel it the minute that I leave 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.000 the gym or walking the stairs or getting out of 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.360 my vehicle, which is a plus and a minus. When 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.760 I was in the midst of my career, I go, 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.560 I train hard, I go hard. I don't really feel 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:46.320 a pain injury. But if I was just stoop on 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.720 the track right now, A former athlete is always an athlete. 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:53.600 If you ask any football player, any boxer, any sprinter. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.200 If you tell me TJ that I can get six 0:21:56.240 --> 0:22:00.000 months dedicated to sprint training, I feel in my heart 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:01.760 that I can be back out on the track, I 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.080 don't care. And so if you were to get me 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.119 on the track, you and I, TJ. Nice say you 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.600 and I we were to line up, I would crush it. 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.359 I would crush you because I won't in the midst 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:19.440 of it feeling now, will I tear every hamstring? Tea 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.280 Achilles correct, I would we have to lift it away 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:25.760 from the track, But I would fly. I would go fast. 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.760 I don't know. I most likely I'm not going under 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.480 eleven seconds, but I don't know. 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:36.480 Yeah, he win the race, but I win the recovery. 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:37.000 Got it. 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.879 I would crush the race, but you would crush the recovery. 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:46.359 Yes, I love that positive attitude is taking board and 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.359 fill it up our day too. Marion Jones, thank you 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:52.280 so much for being with us on the podcast. Whish 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.679 we could talk longer, but mom duties are calling. I 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.240