1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Hey, the folks in this episode, our conversation with the 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: woman who once held the title of fastest woman in 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: the world, Marion Jones. And with that, welcome to Amy 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: and DJ and your Lasting image Robe. Do you hear 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the name Marion Jones? And what is the image that 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: comes to me? 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: That big, beautiful smile, just that release of joy, like 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: this is somebody who worked her butt off and she didn't. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: It's just hearing your voice. You sound like you only 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: have happy thoughts, right right. We know the story that ensued, 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: But the same with me. The only image I have 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: is that big smile of hers holding that gold medal 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: up to that big smiling face. That is the image. 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: I had to think for a little while to come 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: up with the other image of her crying at a 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: podium admitting that she had lied and took steroids. 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: Correct And also, in knowing that we were doing this interview, 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: I learned things that I hadn't realized before that she 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: had actually gone to prison, spent a lot of time 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: behind bars, and completely then decided to take a step 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: back from the spotlight. All together, these are all huge 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: transformative moments that happened to her in her twenties, the 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: greatest of successes and then the lowest of lows. 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: And it's tough she was, and it's remind her. I 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: know that legacy is tainted, but she had accomplished so 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: much in her career. And look, she's admitted the things 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: she's done wrong, but there is some talent and some 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: a lot and not just not some, a lot of 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: talent and a lot of hard work behind what she did. 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: She was a world champion shell forget she played basketball. 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: It knows Romana and won a championship there, so she 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: has a world class athlete. But that scandal kind of 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: tainted everything. But to talk to her now, it sounds 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: like that was only the jumping off point to what 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: is now going to be her greatest legacy. Was cool 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: to hear her kind of talk about that. 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: Isn't it true? 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Though? Because for anyone who has achieved something great but 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: then had something taint their lives, so you don't want 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: to be defined by your worst mistake. And if anything, 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: any one of us who has lived enough life knows 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: it's those mistakes. It's those moments of poor choices or failures, 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them, that made you say 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: I got to do something different. I got to make 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: a change. I have to change the trajectory of my life. 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what she did in so many ways. 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: And her children are her legacy. How she's living her 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: life is what she wants to become her greatest legacy. 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Their children are her legacy. Folks. True story that we 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: had to cut the interview short because she had to 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: get a kid off to school. So it's kind of 52 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: cool to see her forty nine years old now and 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: just where she is in her life and looks like 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: she is happy as all get out. So, folks, enjoy 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: our conversation with the Marion Jones. 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: How are you doing? How are you feeling today? 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: And welcome? 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, thank you both. I'm excited to chat 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: with you. I'm doing well. You know, it has been 60 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: a whirlwinds year for me. I made certain certain specific 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: choices to step away from the spotlight and the public 62 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: eye for almost a decade right after everything went down, 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: and it was all very purposeful, y'all. I have three 64 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: beautiful kids now they're nearly grown. But I made the 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: choice that for my own mental health and for the 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: lives of my kids, I wanted to pour into them, 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: and I thought that a distraction would be the spotlight, 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: and so it was purposeful. But in that I always 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: knew that my reach, my public reach, my platform was 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: something unique and special. And even though right like there 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: was success on the track and I was blessed with 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: talent and speed, there is I don't want to speak 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: in the third person in the past, but there is 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: something unique about my ability to connect with people. Right 75 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: There have been a lot of Olympians, there have been 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: a lot of gold medalists, but very few have I think, 77 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: had the ability to connect with the world like I did. 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 3: And it's more than just me being able to run 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: from here to there very fast. And in that ten 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: year Hiatus, I knew that I still had a stage 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: and a platform to share, to share my experiences with 82 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: the hopes of helping people who have been through hard 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: times come back from then I was just waiting for 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: that time. So in that ten years you didn't see me, 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: but I was busy rebranding, creating my own narrative, refusing 86 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: to allow the media the world to create my narrative. 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: That that was my time to rebrand so that I 88 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: can still have a platform. And so this past year, 89 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: I said, you know, my kids are older, two of 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: them out of the house, they're in college, one about 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: to be out of the house. Now's the time. They're good, 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: they are healthy, Amy and TJ. They are thriving in 93 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: their own world. Now it's time for me now to 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: step back on the stage. And what do I have 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: to give to the public. What in essence, why am 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: I currently relevant? And it's it's it makes me smile 97 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: that there is an audience, that there are people like 98 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: you TJ and you Amy who remember me and remember 99 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: that there is there's something more like what is she 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: doing right? And I don't think that happens with every 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: former athlete, And so I'm excited to be able to 102 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: share my experiences with people, mainly but but really giving 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: people this sense of hope, which I think we really 104 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: really need in this day and time, that once you 105 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: make a choice good bad in between, and maybe there's 106 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: a setback of some sort, that your world doesn't have 107 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: to end, that you don't have to crawl under a rock, 108 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: that you can still rebrand and rename and get yourself 109 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: back out there in a positive light with the hopes 110 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: that you can help people live a better life. 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: Well, Mary, you said, you said you have this ability, 112 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: and maybe some of it is natural disability to connect 113 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: with people, certainly through your story, through your talent, and 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: through the huge platform that you had. But do you 115 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: find yourself these days when you're trying to connect with people, 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: do you find we're so you're trying to tell them, 117 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: appreciate to them to not make some of the same 118 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: mistakes you made, or do you find yourself teaching more 119 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: lessons about this is what you do when you make 120 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: those mistakes that are now necessary and we're even necessary 121 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: for you to be sitting here in the headspace that you're. 122 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: Tj a little bit of both. I share with people 123 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: that I am unique in that a former goal medalist 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: and former fastest woman in the world. Not a lot 125 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: of people can relate to that. But I think our 126 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: common bond is that everybody on this planet can or 127 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: will experience some type of setback or some type of failure, 128 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: or some type of something that knocks you off of 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: your feet. It can. I mean, it might not be 130 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: on the grand scale potentially that mine was or that 131 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: y'all's were or whatever, but people can relate to a 132 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: park happy everybody right and so that is how we 133 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: are unique. And I think that is what makes potentially 134 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: me a little more relatable. When you say, oh, I 135 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: can't relate or she man, she ran this, or she 136 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: had a gold medal, or she was on the cover 137 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: of Vogue or this, people can't relate to that. But 138 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: when you say, you know what, have you ever been 139 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: knocked down? Have you ever been a product of divorce? 140 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: Have you ever been bankrupt? Have you ever told a lie? 141 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: And you're like, shit, how do I make this right? 142 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: Most people can understand that. And so that's what I 143 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: share that it doesn't have to knock you down. You 144 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: deal with it, obviously, you deal with the consequences. Mine 145 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: were severe. Y'all's were severe, right, Like, we all deal 146 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: with it. But to me, it makes our testimony like 147 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: and are the fact that And let me give you 148 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: a quick example. You know, I have kids, they have 149 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: done sports, and I found that even with my own kids, 150 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: when they were growing up and they had coaches, they 151 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: would listen to their coaches, who maybe had a junior 152 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 3: high athletic experience over their mamas. Right, that's about right. 153 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: Kids are the same When you say, hey, like my 154 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: coach or my mentor or the person who's teaching me 155 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: something has really been through it. Like, doesn't that give 156 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: you like a little more mph to want to listen 157 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: to say? You know what, like if she or he 158 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: or they have been through what they've been through and 159 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: they're showing me how they can rebrand and rename and 160 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: put themselves out there whereby you know, the TJ's and 161 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: Amys and Robins and whomever in the world still want 162 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: to hear their voice and their experiences. Maybe I should, 163 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: Maybe I should take note right that you don't have 164 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: to just give up when life knocks you down. 165 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: And how often do you talk to people and you 166 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: get introduced, right, if it's an interview like this, where 167 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: how long does it take right talking to you before 168 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: anything related to a scandal gets brought up? 169 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: Right? 170 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: It's because, let me say you, like this from our experience, 171 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: it took a while to where we're like, oh wow, okay, 172 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: we're actually just normal people who are in reallytionationship instead 173 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: of scandalous this or the form or that. Right, does 174 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: it take a while? Is it starting to happen? 175 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: Do you? 176 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 4: Like, I know it's always going to be a part 177 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: of your story, but does it move way down in 178 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: terms of who Marion Jones is. 179 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm not at that place yet, TJ. When I'm introduced, 180 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: I am generally introduced as former Olympian gold medalists who 181 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: had being stripped because of poor choices that she made whatever, right. 182 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: What what I do find there's an area of growth 183 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: in my story is that after I am introduced and 184 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: after five minutes into our conversation right where it's addressed, 185 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: I don't run away from it. We talk about it 186 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: more choices, I lie, right, and I let down a 187 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: nation in a world. I get it at the age 188 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: of twenty something years old. Right, five minutes, maybe a 189 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: few more, and then I'm able rights put out there. Right, 190 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: I have attacked it. I have addressed it. And so 191 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: the rest of the interview or whatever it. 192 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 6: Is, we talk about what I want to talk about, 193 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: really right, which is how to help people live a 194 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: better life, how to help people get it have a 195 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 6: comeback which everybody can experience. 196 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: And I find that that is what is changing. 197 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 5: Right. 198 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: Sure, the introduction might likely stay similar for however long, 199 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: but the ninety five percent of the content of our 200 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: interaction has nothing to do with that, and it's going 201 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: to get less and less and less and less, and 202 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that as long as I see forward movement. 203 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you are doing that a triathlon? Why the triathlon? 204 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: And I'm just curious because for those of us who 205 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: don't know, because I get confused, what does that intel? 206 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: Obviously there are three different sports, and I know it 207 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 5: involves running, cycling, and swimming, I believe, But tell us 208 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 5: what you're in for. You're doing this in how to correct, 209 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 5: in may correct. 210 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: So it's always been on my bucket list, even when 211 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: I competed. The athletes in that sport are built different, 212 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: not just physically, but their mindsets is different. It is 213 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: similar to how I function, how I think in my 214 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: normal life right where you get obsessed with something right, 215 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: get obsessed with your training, your nutrition, how you live. 216 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: And it's the only way that you could succeed in 217 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: that sport by balancing all of those three things right, 218 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: which I think right now TJ and Amy is perfect 219 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: in my life because my constant challenge is how do 220 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: I balance? As you get older? It's all about balancing, right. 221 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: Like I teach my clients, it is a circle of 222 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: life and the goal is for everything to be green. 223 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: Which means good. 224 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 5: Right. 225 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: There might be some areas that are green, there are 226 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: some areas that are orange, and there's a few that 227 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: are red. The goal is for a balance and figuring 228 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: that out. At almost the age of fifteen, I couldn't 229 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: think of a more a better sport, a challenge to 230 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: choose than a try because I have to learn how 231 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: to balance all of them, which for me is a challenge, right, 232 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Like I'll tell you endurance side not my jam. 233 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 5: Right. 234 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: Do I run a few miles every day? Sure? Three macs? Right? 235 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: Do I know how to bike? Yes, because I have 236 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: kids and we used to go around the block. Do 237 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: I know how to handle power and cadence when it 238 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: comes to a bike a cycle? I do not. So 239 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: there's my challenge. Let's talk swim for a second. Do 240 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: I know how to swim? Do I know how not 241 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: to drown? Yes? I have kids, You're right, like, hey, 242 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: let me jump in the pool and play with them. 243 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: But do I know how to Do I know a 244 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: swim stroke? Do I know how to breathe properly? Do 245 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: I know how to keep my hips up and keep 246 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: my court? I do not. So the challenge of an 247 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 3: athlete former athlete in particular elite athlete to have to 248 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: figure out this balance at this point in her life 249 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: when now, TJ, I'm not paying to do triathlons, right, 250 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: this is my choosing. 251 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: You have pay to enter the triathlon. 252 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: In addition balancing everything else in my life. Right, So, 253 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: at the end of this try experience, and I don't 254 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: know when the end will be. Most likely it's not 255 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: going to be when I'm done with my first one, 256 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: because I'm gonna get hooked, right, But the challenge for 257 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: me is how do I create green in not just 258 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: my try journey, but in all of the other relationships 259 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: in my life, my business, my career, my everything like 260 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: that to me is success at this point. So that's 261 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: kind of in a nutshell, Amy, That's why I'm doing it. 262 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: How many how many miles are in the triathlon? 263 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's back up. 264 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: You said you only we run about three miles max, 265 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: But how many you got them run in the travelin? 266 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: Well, I have chosen for my first try to be 267 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: a sprint trye. So they're different, right, Like there is 268 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: an iron Man iron woman distance. We are not there yet, friends, right, 269 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: I am literally walking before I run. Okay, And so 270 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: in the sprint try, I mean specifics. I think it's 271 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: a little over three miles, right, so it's a much 272 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: dial down version. But I know me right, I know 273 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna crush it. I know all this, and I'm 274 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: gonna be challenged, which I already have been by my 275 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: try coach, Like I am looking for X, Y, and 276 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: Z after this, So the first one will be mild. 277 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: I like how you said the first one, so there 278 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: are more to come. And I'm curious as you talk 279 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: about how you're introduced and how you always have to 280 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: at least address or explain your history. 281 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: How do you hope in this next. 282 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 5: Check of your life where you are looking at everything 283 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: green and you're rewriting, or at least you're creating your 284 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 5: next chapter, how do you want people to introduce you 285 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: in ten years? 286 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, ten years? And know that's a good question. 287 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: I know that ultimately, I would love for my name 288 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: to be synonymous with people whom it struggled to navigate 289 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: stardom right, but figured it out, figured it out and 290 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: ultimately poured into the lives of people who around her 291 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: like that. That would be a great legacy for me 292 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: to have in ten years. I would hope people will 293 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: just say, wow, right, a talent, right, and maybe they'll 294 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: throw in a waste of talent. I don't think so, 295 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: because my talent has not just the physical. My ability 296 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: to motivate and coach and train and provide inspiration to 297 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: people is also a talent. Now you'll know everybody doesn't 298 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: have that, right, and so being able to foster that, 299 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: learn that create, cultivate that to me as a talent. 300 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: And so in ten years, I would hope that the 301 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: people who've the people's lives whom I have positively influenced, 302 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: is however many more than what it was before I started. 303 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: Right or people initially heard my name and were like, ah, no, 304 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: she's done. I don't want to hear from her, but 305 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: I sort of get something out of her story. And 306 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: if you've used it to I've used it to apply 307 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: to my own life, even if it's just a few 308 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: people's success. But I know it's going to be, however 309 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: many much more than that. 310 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: You know as well, to think the whole world is 311 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: watching you and Sydney, and we've talked about all the 312 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: people you inspire hired by your brilliant talent obviously, but 313 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: the thing that that might not even be your greatest impact. 314 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: That you're putting something together in your life now you 315 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: could have more of an impact on people's lives post 316 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: all of that than you ever did when they saw you. 317 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: But goldmells around you and TJ. 318 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: It's not even an if, right, Like it's not to me, 319 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: it's not even an if, And it's it's what I 320 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: share with the athletes that are achieving success right now. 321 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: Right whereby we only have athletes entertainers, We really only 322 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: have that big platform for a certain amount of time, right, 323 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: how do you capitalize on it? Right? Like these these 324 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: young athletes, they win a gold medal, right, they're on 325 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: the cover, they're making millions right now, but their window 326 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: is so short. Now if they squander that away with 327 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: silly stuff on social media or right like they are 328 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: doing themselves such a disservice, why not in that window 329 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 3: of fame which is limited, once again, they attach their 330 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: brand to something bigger than sport, right, whatever that could be, 331 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 3: whether it's about climate change or the homeless or whatever, 332 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: like something that you are truly passionate about, passionate about, 333 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: not just something that's going to you know, get a 334 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: quick audience. You will extend the life of your fame 335 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: ten years, twenty years, thirty years, and hopefully truly impact people, 336 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: because I know that me running from here to there 337 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: impacted the lives of people. I'm sure in a positive way. 338 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: But really, when you really look at the grand scope 339 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: of the platform that you can really get if you 340 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: truly are passionate about something bigger than sport man, that 341 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: could be something special in your life. So I love you, know, 342 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: and Mary, and I love you. 343 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: Just turned forty nine, and so many of our listeners 344 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 5: are women, and I'm in my fifties already, and I 345 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: love hearing, especially someone who has such an accomplished past. 346 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: And you were killing it in your twenties. 347 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 5: But now to be two decades older and to be 348 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: wiser and as TJ said, slower but go ahead, the. 349 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: Impact could be greater. 350 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: And I'm just that that thought that we have a 351 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: lot left in our tank to get in different ways. 352 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: And it's a beautiful message to all of us out 353 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 5: there that we still have value and we still have worth, 354 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 5: and we have so much more to give. 355 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: Perfect well said Amy, And really the best is yet 356 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: to come, and the best is yet to come, y'all. 357 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: I believe that for y'all, for me, and Pete looked 358 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: him knock down, and here you're like, you know what, No, 359 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: it's not who I am. Like that, my biggest mistake, 360 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: my biggest setback, does not define who I am. 361 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: I wish folks could see and we all fell in 362 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: love with a smile twelve years ago in Sydney. But 363 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: you still have that great smile and glow and energy 364 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 4: and you look like there is not a weight on 365 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 4: your shoulder in the least. You just look wonderful. 366 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: Marian. 367 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: Really, if you have to go run one hundred meter 368 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: right now, what time could you put up? 369 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 3: Well, since we were briefly speak talking about knees earlier, 370 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: let's first put that out in the universe. I have 371 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: grade four arthritis in both of my nis. All right, 372 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: I am, But I am an adrenaline junkie, which means 373 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: that when I train and work out, I don't feel 374 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: it right. I feel it the minute that I leave 375 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: the gym or walking the stairs or getting out of 376 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: my vehicle, which is a plus and a minus. When 377 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: I was in the midst of my career, I go, 378 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: I train hard, I go hard. I don't really feel 379 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: a pain injury. But if I was just stoop on 380 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: the track right now, A former athlete is always an athlete. 381 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: If you ask any football player, any boxer, any sprinter. 382 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: If you tell me TJ that I can get six 383 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: months dedicated to sprint training, I feel in my heart 384 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: that I can be back out on the track, I 385 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: don't care. And so if you were to get me 386 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: on the track, you and I, TJ. Nice say you 387 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: and I we were to line up, I would crush it. 388 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: I would crush you because I won't in the midst 389 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: of it feeling now, will I tear every hamstring? Tea 390 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: Achilles correct, I would we have to lift it away 391 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: from the track, But I would fly. I would go fast. 392 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I most likely I'm not going under 393 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: eleven seconds, but I don't know. 394 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he win the race, but I win the recovery. 395 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: Got it. 396 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: I would crush the race, but you would crush the recovery. 397 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 5: Yes, I love that positive attitude is taking board and 398 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 5: fill it up our day too. Marion Jones, thank you 399 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 5: so much for being with us on the podcast. Whish 400 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 5: we could talk longer, but mom duties are calling. I 401 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 5: know you got to get for your youngest to school. 402 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 5: So thank you for us today. 403 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: Thank y'all, I was so pleasant. I wish all all 404 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: the best in your training and in your world. And yeah, 405 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: have a great day, y'all. 406 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: Thank you there, you have a good one. Hopefully we'll 407 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: see you out on the road at some point. And folks, 408 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 4: thank you as always for listening to us. You can 409 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: catch us on our official Instagram page to Amy and 410 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: TJ Podcast, But for now, I'm TJ and. 411 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 5: I'm Amy Roboch. 412 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: Have a great day.