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Speaker 2: add to that list the great Jason Martin. Jmart how

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, Steve Man. I actually tell some people

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Speaker 3: I have never crossed paths with you in my entire

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Speaker 3: time at Fox Sports Radio. Even back when I was

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Speaker 3: interning in Nashville, I listened to you like I've listened

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Speaker 3: to you for a very very long time. So I've

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Speaker 3: been excited. I had to work with Arney Spanier last night,

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Speaker 3: in terms of the og Fox Sports Radio crew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going old school right now. I can tell

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Speaker 2: listening and texted me during the show. So you know,

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Speaker 2: right at the start here at J Martin, and you're

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Speaker 2: okay if I call you J mart Right, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. So you're a Nashville guy, right, And

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Speaker 2: I've never been to Nashville. Now, I've been to Knoxville.

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Speaker 2: I was a member of the UCLA broadcast team back

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six Maydon Manning's junior year. They had

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Speaker 2: Jmart Is this a good place for my daughter? Who

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Speaker 2: is I mean, you know, fathers loved to brag, but

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Speaker 2: Would this be a good situation for her if she chooses,

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Speaker 2: and believe me, she wants to get to Nashville and Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: Is this a good choice for her?

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Speaker 3: Well? Look, it's a great city, it really is. You

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Speaker 3: It's definitely a party city. But Vanderbilt's outstanding school. My

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Speaker 3: It's a very cool place to live, although at my age,

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Speaker 2: All right, So and then if I say, hey, stop,

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Speaker 2: I see j Martin. You know that's cool?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Anytime I got a two year old daughter. She

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Speaker 2: She can do that. You know, you mentioned babysitting. So

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Speaker 2: I like to name drop occasionally because I have been

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Speaker 2: So the other night I was having dinner with Tyler

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Speaker 3: Hey that's my alma mater. Man then went to Western Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's a small world. J Mart And

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Speaker 2: then my longtime friend, my dear friend, the great Hall

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of the Rams, other

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Speaker 2: Well here's the problem for the Rams. So you're right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want all in. I really want to

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Speaker 2: two NFL teams in LA. Chargers were never wanted in LA.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was just it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Would you sign up for that?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yes, yes. I've actually asked that hypothetical before. I've

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Speaker 3: these people that have been season ticket holders since the

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Speaker 2: I used to say this in San Diego as well, Right,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's another show it's never won anything, and

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Speaker 2: everyone's like, where do I sign up just to have

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Speaker 2: on the other side, Jason Martin here today, we got

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Speaker 2: a lot of NFL We're going to get to as

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Speaker 2: we drag ourselves through this endless preseason, something that's going

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Speaker 2: got to talk about the huge shakeup in the college

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Speaker 2: and I'm out here where it's pretty much been a race.

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Speaker 4: Well, good morning, good afternoon. It is a huge story,

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Speaker 4: Nicky Lopez. Love Nicky's game. He's a really nice, complimentary

435
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Speaker 4: utility player you can move around the diamond for you

436
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Speaker 4: have a really good at bat. I think he's got

437
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Speaker 4: a chance to make a make an impact on this

438
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Speaker 4: team down the stretch. But they make a moving for

439
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Speaker 4: him at the deadline and you're asking yourself, Okay, when's

440
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Speaker 4: he gonna play? Because our CIA does not take a

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Speaker 4: day off. They're a team that just does not have

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Speaker 4: guys that take days off. And I think it just

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Speaker 4: speaks so well to the way they've built their team.

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Speaker 4: All these takes no days off. He's one of the

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Speaker 4: best off as the second basement in the game too.

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Speaker 4: So the pitching, I do wonder a little bit about

447
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Speaker 4: how that will hold up over a long October journey.

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Speaker 4: But we're at the point now, Jason where If the

449
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Speaker 4: NLCS is not Atlanta versus La, it's going to be

450
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Speaker 4: a pretty tremendous upset.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Dodgers, seven straight wins, they're rolling right now.

452
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Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman has just had an unbelievable year. I guess

453
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Speaker 2: he got hit yesterday but with a pitch, But he

454
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Speaker 2: seems to be okay. But this is not the Dodger

455
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Speaker 2: team we've seen in recent years. When you talk about

456
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Speaker 2: where the Braves are right now, like they're a runaway favorite,

457
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Speaker 2: like there you know this run Well, that's where the

458
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Speaker 2: Dodgers have been for several years, and yet they've only

459
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Speaker 2: won one World Series along that way, and you know

460
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Speaker 2: a lot of people still want to put an asterisk

461
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Speaker 2: on that series of where they never left the state

462
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Speaker 2: of Texas. And then looming is the penning edition of

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Speaker 2: one show Hey Otani, who, by the way, is going

464
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Speaker 2: to sit out as next start. He's got arm fatigue,

465
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Speaker 2: which doesn't surprise me considering the Angels are completely fitting

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Speaker 2: out of the playoff chase. But can you see any

467
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Speaker 2: way that all the years the Dodgers were runaway favorites

468
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Speaker 2: to get to the World Series and maybe fell short,

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Speaker 2: that maybe they could actually sneak up with this team

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Speaker 2: and surprise a team like the Braves in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: I think they could. I mean, first of all, they've

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Speaker 4: got two of the best six or seven players in

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Speaker 4: the game in Mookie and Freddie. And when when you've

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Speaker 4: got that level of accountable and unselfish superstars, you're really

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Speaker 4: in business. And we talked Steve last weekend about San

476
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Speaker 4: Diego to watch the Dodgers play there and Dave Roberts

477
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Speaker 4: sitting in his office. He just made a great statement

478
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Speaker 4: about how fortunate the Dodgers are to have unselfish superstars

479
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Speaker 4: and what Freddie and MOOKI do for this team is transformative.

480
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 4: Mookie plays second base because first of all, he enjoys

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Speaker 4: the athletic challenge of doing it, but also because when

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Speaker 4: he plays second against the right handed pitcher, Dave Roberts

483
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Speaker 4: can have a fully left handed outfit, which makes the

484
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Speaker 4: team better. So it's not just Mookie's production, but it's

485
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Speaker 4: what his athleticism and versatility allows Dave Roberts to do

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Speaker 4: with the rest of the lineup. That is a value

487
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Speaker 4: component that is very real but will never be captured

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Speaker 4: by a statistic. And oh, by the way, when your

489
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Speaker 4: superstar players raise their hand and say, yeah, I'll play

490
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Speaker 4: every day, and in Mookie's case, I'll play a different

491
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Speaker 4: position to make our team better. If your player eight, nine, ten,

492
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Speaker 4: eleven or twelve on the team and your superstar does that,

493
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Speaker 4: how inspiring is that for you? What standard does that

494
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Speaker 4: set for you? And that's how you know you're really

495
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Speaker 4: in business. And they expect to get Walker Bueller back

496
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Speaker 4: before the end of the season. That's going to be

497
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Speaker 4: a huge lift for them. So it's a team that

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Speaker 4: I think bullpen wise, it's a little bit of a

499
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Speaker 4: different cast than they've had in the past. But Evan

500
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Speaker 4: Phillips has had a tremendous season. Bruce tar Gretaol has

501
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Speaker 4: been very good as well, so I think they've got

502
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Speaker 4: plenty of pitching there. It's a different recipe, and I

503
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Speaker 4: think the guy that you're really gonna have to rely

504
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Speaker 4: on down the stretch at some point to start a

505
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 4: huge game for them. When there's seasons online, it's going

506
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Speaker 4: to be Julio Rias because he has not really had

507
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Speaker 4: the year that we expected him to have, but it's

508
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Speaker 4: still in there, and I think if he's able to

509
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Speaker 4: combine with Kershaw and a healthy Buehler, that Dodger team

510
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 4: is going to be a very tough one to try

511
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Speaker 4: to knock out of the playoffs. Before all said and.

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Speaker 3: Done, Cubs are playing pretty well. Seven and three in

513
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Speaker 3: the last ten. They're sixty one to fifty six, just

514
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: a few games out of the lead in the Central

515
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Speaker 3: How for real are they right now?

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Speaker 4: I think they are for real And I love a

517
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Speaker 4: couple of things about their team. Number One, as we

518
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Speaker 4: talked about Dansby Swanson, come and go from the Braves,

519
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Speaker 4: and he's been playing every day with the Cubs. It's

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Speaker 4: just like you played every day with the Braves. He

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Speaker 4: brought that same ethic over to the Cubs. But I

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Speaker 4: think more importantly, they've had an MVP level of performance

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Speaker 4: from Cody Bellinger, and again talk about versatility. He can

524
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Speaker 4: play center, he can play first. He's swinging the bat

525
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Speaker 4: again like he was during his MVP year several years ago,

526
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Speaker 4: and setting himself up for a really nice payday this offseason.

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Speaker 4: I think that that, to me is a big question,

528
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Speaker 4: is how as a as a pure position player, he's

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Speaker 4: he's going to be in a market unto himself this offseason,

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Speaker 4: Because of course, show A is showy and so unique,

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Speaker 4: but Bellinger might be the most sought after one way

532
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Speaker 4: pure position player this off season. So I think Bellinger's

533
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: arrival has made a huge impact. Swanson has as well

534
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Speaker 4: the emergence of Justin Steele as a really solid starting pitcher.

535
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Speaker 4: Kyle Hendricks I think is really good as well. So

536
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Speaker 4: they've got, I believe, a really balanced club in what

537
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Speaker 4: the winnable division now. Milwaukee has a long history of

538
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Speaker 4: being a strong finishing team under Craig Council. I would

539
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Speaker 4: expect that they'll still be a very tough team to

540
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Speaker 4: contend with down the stretch, but the Cubs can also

541
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Speaker 4: compete for this NL wildcard and the NL Wildcard. We

542
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Speaker 4: expected the Mets to be a playoff team, they're clearly

543
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Speaker 4: not going to be one. We thought the Podres would

544
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Speaker 4: be one of the better teams the National League. Clearly

545
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Speaker 4: they're not, and so it's opened up a lot of

546
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Speaker 4: space in the wildcard race, so not only in the division,

547
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Speaker 4: but in the wildcard too. Jason, I think there's definitely

548
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Speaker 4: a very strong path for David Ross and the Cubbies

549
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Speaker 4: to make their way to October JP.

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Speaker 2: It is always a pleasure, always an honor to have

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Speaker 2: the Great John Palm Morosion have a wonderful week. We'll

552
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: check in with you next week.

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Speaker 4: Sounds great, guys looking forward to it. Yeah, we'll keep

554
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: combining a little uh little college sports talk as needed,

555
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: with a little MLB as well. So it is a

556
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: it is a great time. You and my friends always

557
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: love this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, the Great John Paul Morosi joining

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Speaker 2: is there? All right, let's find out what is trending

560
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Speaker 2: right now? I better late than ever, as Monsei has

561
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Speaker 2: been standing by waiting, waiting patiently, patiently, patiently. How are you?

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Speaker 6: I am hanging out?

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Speaker 2: How are you Sunday going? Well?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I want you to know that I ended

565
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Speaker 7: up going to Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: Oh now, Jason, you got to hear this. So she

567
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: was asking last week, everybody, can I throw the number

568
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Speaker 2: that you were throwing around on the ticket cost? How

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Speaker 2: about it this way? Is the four digit numbers? All right?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

571
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Speaker 2: And She's like should I do it? And I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: to myself, well, I mean, how much do you love

573
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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift? And You're like, three hours, I'm gonna sing

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Speaker 2: every word with her, like every single doesn't matter what

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Speaker 2: songs she sings. I know the worst every song. I

576
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Speaker 2: so well then yeah, I mean it's like a once

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Speaker 2: in a lifetime She went.

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Speaker 6: Yes. Everybody was very supportive, Jason. Everybody was like, do it,

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Speaker 6: do it.

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Speaker 3: God, it's not their money, it's not their money, right,

581
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Speaker 3: was like, so your friends because you have they have

582
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Speaker 3: friends and everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how was it?

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Speaker 6: Was honestly worth every every dollar? It was worth it all.

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Speaker 6: I would have gone again if it would.

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Speaker 7: Have just been half the price, I would have gone

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Speaker 7: on Wednesday. No, it was so good, no regrets, no regrets. Perfect, Yes,

588
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Speaker 7: loved it, loved it.

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Speaker 6: We have one baseball game going on right now, Fellas.

590
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Speaker 6: The Red Sox, who are three games.

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Speaker 7: Out of the final wildcard spot in the AL, have

592
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Speaker 7: extended their lead at home over the Tigers at six

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Speaker 7: to two, and they're about to start the six inning.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned it that the Angel said that show Heyo.

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Speaker 7: Tani will skip his next scheduled pitching start, which was

596
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Speaker 7: supposed to be Wednesday at Texas.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he has some arm.

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Speaker 7: Fatigue, but the team reiterated he's not injured and that

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Speaker 7: he's going to come back to the rotation during their

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Speaker 7: home series against the Reds which begins on August twenty First,

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Speaker 7: we got.

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Speaker 6: One NFL preseason I know it's preseason, I get it.

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Speaker 7: But Darren Carr's opening series was not too shabby.

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Speaker 2: This is the kind of score you're like, you know

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Speaker 2: it's the preseason when you look at this score.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I understand that.

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Speaker 7: But he did hit a touchdown, get a touchdown in

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Speaker 7: his opening drive.

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Speaker 6: He was six of eight seventy yards.

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Speaker 7: He found Keith Kirkwood in the end zone, then they

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Speaker 7: put in Jamis Winston, and then he found at Perry

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Speaker 7: in the end zone a twenty nine yard pass and

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Speaker 7: that is why the score is fourteen to zero against

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Speaker 7: the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes already out of the game.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 7: He just completed two of two passes for fifteen yards.

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Speaker 7: But yes, it is preseason. We have the last preseason

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Speaker 7: game of Week one later today, four pm Eastern time,

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Speaker 7: San Francisco, forty nine.

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Speaker 6: Ers against the last Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 2: That to you, guys, all right, MONSI thank you very

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Speaker 2: you go into a big Braves fan. How does it

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Speaker 2: sit with you seeing Freddie Freeman continue to add to

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Speaker 2: his Hall of Fame resume as a Los Angeles Dodger.

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Speaker 3: It stinks. It's still difficult, Like I said, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Matt Olson's making it easier just because of, you know,

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Speaker 3: being a guy that loved the team. Now he's playing

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Speaker 3: for our guys, and he's playing so well, even though

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Speaker 3: the start of the season was a bit of a

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Speaker 3: slump for him. But Freddie's just one of those like

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Speaker 3: he was probably the most known, most important Brave since Chipper,

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Speaker 3: certainly since that era. So to see him in another uniform,

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Speaker 3: that's tough. It really is difficult. And at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I can't stand the Dodgers. But every time I see

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Speaker 3: that Freddy's done something good, a little part of me

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Speaker 3: is happy, Like there's there's just some guys you root for,

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Speaker 3: and I root for him. Even though that situation got

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Speaker 3: very wonky and there was a lot of things said

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Speaker 3: and all that. Now that it's just settled and it's

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Speaker 3: not like they were going to pull back and just Okay, Freddie,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to actually make this deal. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: we're gonna undo this. That's not how it works. So

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Speaker 3: now I just wish him well. I imagine he goes

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Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame wearing a Braves uniform or

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Speaker 3: Braves lid, and I'm cool with that, Like, this is

652
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Speaker 3: just kind of how it ends up going. He got

653
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: he left Atlanta, but he didn't leave without leaving the

654
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: team a championship, and I think that was very important.

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Speaker 2: So it's got to ease the pain though, when he's

656
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Speaker 2: replaced by Matt Olsen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Forty two home runs, one hundred and

658
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Speaker 3: five rbi. I mean, Akunya was on was having an

659
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Speaker 3: insane year that was being sort of not covered enough

660
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Speaker 3: because of what shohe Otani is doing. And now Matt

661
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 3: Olsen's right next to him, like, all right, we got

662
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: multiple MVP candidates in the National League on the same team,

663
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: And yes, it does soften the blow quite a bit

664
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Speaker 3: when Olsen's playing like this.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we get

666
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: back to the NFL, and where are we in terms

667
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Speaker 2: of any significance with preseason football, and what is the

668
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: most viable option that actually would benefit NFL teams instead

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Speaker 2: of subjecting them to the possibility of injuries that could

670
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Speaker 2: cripple their season. We'll break it down. This is Fox

671
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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Jason Martin, Fox Sports Sunday. We

672
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Speaker 2: are live from the Tireac dot Com studios. All right, Jaymi,

673
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a headline here. Eagles linebacker Sean

674
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Speaker 2: Bradley suffers season ending achilles injury that was in their

675
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Speaker 2: preseason opener against the Baltimore Ravens. Gone sy, I mean,

676
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Speaker 2: this is this is the insanity of preseason football. You

677
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: don't have preseason games in high school, you don't have

678
00:35:53,600 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: preseason games in college. The games you play count. The

679
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: idea of preseason football originally was is that you had

680
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Speaker 2: to get players in shape for a season because they

681
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: didn't make a whole lot of money and they had

682
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: offseason jobs. So I get it. I mean back in

683
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Speaker 2: the day, this is not the case anymore. Twenty twenty,

684
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Speaker 2: with the COVID shutdown, there was no preseason. There was

685
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: no training camp. Seasons started on time, and it looked okay,

686
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Speaker 2: maybe a little rough for a couple of weeks, but

687
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: once they got into it, it looked normal. I mean,

688
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: this is insane. I mean, it just baffles me when

689
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Speaker 2: we have to sit here for a couple of weeks

690
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: because we're chopping at the bit to get the season started,

691
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Speaker 2: to have to sit through this gibberish known as preseason

692
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Speaker 2: NFL football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I understand there needs to be a

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Speaker 3: ramp up period so that guys can be physically prepared

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Speaker 3: for what they're going to see during the season. And

696
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 3: certainly there are five to seven jobs, give or take,

697
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: that are on the line and you're trying to figure

698
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: out your depth. But increasingly it does feel like the

699
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: cons just outweigh the pros. And you mentioned that headline.

700
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: I got one Packers tight end Tyler Davis tears Aco

701
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Speaker 3: and preseason opener. He's done for the year.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And we're not done with this because we still got

704
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Speaker 3: a couple of more weeks of preseason. The only thing,

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Speaker 3: the first and the only thing I usually say about

706
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Speaker 3: the preseason when what's relevant about it? What do you

707
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: pay attention to? Well, I just pay attention to the

708
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: fact that I'm praying everybody is healthy because I want

709
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: the best regular season and playoffs in the NFL that

710
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Speaker 3: we can get. And this is a sport that look, man,

711
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: the injury rate in the NFL is one hundred percent.

712
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: Like the more snaps you take, the more chances you take.

713
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: Even Mahomes playing a quarter and I saw his comments saying,

714
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Speaker 3: you know, he would like to play more. He likes

715
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Speaker 3: to take a couple of hits just so he can

716
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Speaker 3: know that the progress he's making when guys are not

717
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: allowed to hit him actually does make sense, and they

718
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: know that they're ready for the season. But at the

719
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 3: same time, good gracious, if he goes down, you're you're done. Like,

720
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Speaker 3: if he goes down, you're not gonna win another super Bowl,

721
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Speaker 3: You're not gonna have the kind of season, the amount

722
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Speaker 3: of money that you're paying these guys, and then you

723
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Speaker 3: throw them out in these scenarios. I argue with Arnie

724
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Speaker 3: last night. Arnie was angry that teams weren't trying to

725
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: win the games at the end in preseason. I was

726
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Speaker 3: just saying, well, that's got to because you're laying money

727
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: on them, like there's no other way, because I look,

728
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Speaker 3: if you go for the win and somebody gets hurt,

729
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Speaker 3: you are justifiably going to be mauled for that the

730
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Speaker 3: next day in the press. If you don't go for

731
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Speaker 3: the win, who cares. I've gone to spring games where

732
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Speaker 3: guys where it's just like third quarter, Hey, you know what,

733
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: we've seen enough, we're done. Like they don't even finish

734
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Speaker 3: the game. The wins and losses don't count. It's like

735
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: going to minor league baseball games and understanding and caring

736
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Speaker 3: about the win loss record of those teams. The purpose

737
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: of the thing is not the final score, Steve, among

738
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Speaker 3: many other things, but preseason football is baffling. You're right, well, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say this to my buddy Arnie. If you really

740
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Speaker 2: want to make money on preseason, just play the money

741
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Speaker 2: line on the Ravens, right. I mean they want twenty

742
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: four consecutive preseason games, which is really inexplicable. I mean,

743
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Speaker 2: I don't think the Ravens are winning by design, you know,

744
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: like they're going in like we've got to win this game.

745
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Speaker 2: It's just that fate has handed him for twenty four

746
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: consecutive preseason wins, including a one point So if he's

747
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: hell bent on that. Like I think you said it

748
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: perfectly here, j Mart. The cons way outweigh any pros.

749
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Speaker 2: They come out of the preseason football, and when we

750
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: talk about roster spots, every team may have four or five,

751
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, lower level spots available. And to be honest

752
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: with you, the determination on who makes the team and

753
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: who doesn't make the team is usually made on the

754
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: practice field. It's not made based on a preseason game performance.

755
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: It's just not I've seen time and time again. Oh

756
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: look at that unbelievable punt return. This guy's gonna make

757
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: and I think he gets cut the next week. It's

758
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: already been predetermined. So it's just very, very frustrating. I

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Speaker 2: guess the one thing that came out though this first

760
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Speaker 2: week that was most intriguing to me about the preseason

761
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Speaker 2: was that Broncos game and the fact that.

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Speaker 3: You see, that's my team, Steve so tread well, hold.

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Speaker 2: On, so you're a Denver Broncos fan.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, okay, we only have a few minutes before

766
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Speaker 2: the top of the ear. I'm going to get to this.

767
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Speaker 2: On the other side, quickly, explain to me why why

768
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Speaker 2: would you be a Denver Broncos fan.

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Speaker 3: Chuse, when I was a kid, it was time to

770
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Speaker 3: pick a team, and John Elway was a quarterback, and

771
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Speaker 3: I loved the color scheme, and I just started watching

772
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Speaker 3: the games and became a Broncos fan. And then for

773
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Speaker 3: Christmas one year, I got like a Broncos themed kids

774
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Speaker 3: deal and it was just on like neck bom from there, like,

775
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Speaker 3: I just absolutely loved the Broncos and always have. But

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Speaker 3: it started with Elway.

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Speaker 2: I am going to on the other side, give you

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Speaker 2: a little background on your favorite player. I'm also going

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Speaker 2: to explain to you why Sean Payton did what he

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Speaker 2: did in calling out his predeces. Sir Nathaniel Hockett, All right,

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Speaker 2: The way hire buying should be Do you travel a lot? Jmarin?

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Speaker 2: Are you on the road a lot or no?

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Speaker 3: Not particularly. There was a time in my life when

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Speaker 3: I did a lot of that. But when you got

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00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: a two year old, you do what she needs you

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Speaker 3: to do, and then you hope that you have time

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Speaker 3: left over.

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Speaker 2: Let me share a quick story. So this is your

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Speaker 2: first child, Yes, yes, so I had. I have three.

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Speaker 2: My boys were born nineteen and a half months apart,

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Speaker 2: so it was almost like twins. It felt like it

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Speaker 2: at the time that my daughter was born a couple

810
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Speaker 2: years later. So when my second son was born nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety nine, the Mets were in San Diego to play

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Speaker 2: the podres and Oral her Seizer was still pitching for

813
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Speaker 2: the Mets. I remember Piazza was catching him. I'm like,

814
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Speaker 2: how does this guy get anybody out? He goes, I

815
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: have no clue like he has. He literally has nothing.

816
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: Like he would literally say to hitters, how did you

817
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Speaker 2: not hit that? You know type of thing. But it was,

818
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: you know, between the years, phenomenal, right, he knew how

819
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: to get guys out even if he had nothing left.

820
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Speaker 2: But I remember him saying something to me because I

821
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Speaker 2: was he and our same agent. But his kids are

822
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Speaker 2: a little older, and it resonated with me forever. He

823
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: said this, when you have kids, the days are long,

824
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Speaker 2: but the years are short. And I'm telling you, Jane Mark,

825
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: you look at that little girl right, you know, And

826
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Speaker 2: I swear to god, my daughter's twenty two now, it's

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Speaker 2: in my mind she's still too. Like I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: like it is. It is unreal when you have kids,

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Speaker 2: how time goes into warp drive because as you know

830
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Speaker 2: as a parent, there's no there's no letup. He is

831
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Speaker 2: opening bell, closing bell. It's like start another day, seven

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Speaker 2: days a week. If you're that kind of parent, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you are so good luckily your daughter, Well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that. But yeah, that's definitely curtailed the

835
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Speaker 3: traveling aspect aspect my life.

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Speaker 2: It curtails a lot of things. Yeah.

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00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Although I went to the seven day wark week. When

839
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Speaker 2: I started piling up kids, I'm like, damn, I'm going

840
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: to have to work a lot more than I am.

841
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Speaker 2: And so I did that for about twenty five years.

842
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the fact you are a big time Denver

843
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Speaker 2: Broncos fan. Yes, a couple of quick stories. So John

844
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: Elway went to Granada Hills High School and I actually

845
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: saw him for the first time in a All Star

846
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: game after his high school days were over, and it

847
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: was quickly apparent to me that this is the most

848
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: physically gifted person I've ever seen play the quarterback position.

849
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Speaker 2: I mean his arm was unreal even in high school

850
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: before he added up to Stanford. But I used to

851
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: say this until they won those two Super Bowls. At

852
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: the end, I didn't think he was a Hall of

853
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: Famer because he didn't check. Because I looked at the

854
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: two ways with Elway, and I said, if you're going

855
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: to be a Hall of Fame quarterback, you have to

856
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: check one of two boxes. Either statistically you were a

857
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Speaker 2: super dominant quarterback, or you win multi well championships. He

858
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: didn't check either box. His numbers were not Marino. They

859
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: weren't even close in terms of passing efficiency or really

860
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Speaker 2: anything else. But when he won those championships, it was

861
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Speaker 2: a game changer, no question about that. I couldn't have

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00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: been more happy. Because here's the thing about a John Elway.

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Speaker 2: He and I've met John, good fortune to meet him

864
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: several times over the years. He's a team guy, like

865
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: he was a he was a teammate favorite. Reno wasn't.

866
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: Marino was one of those guys that sort of separated

867
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: himself from the pack that was not John Elway. So

868
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: his his championships were very welcome as far as the

869
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: current Broncos are concerned. Yeah, so, Sean, I want to

870
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: get your thought, obviously on this whole Sean Payton things.

871
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: But my thought because again I've I've had a chance

872
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: to talk to Sean Payne. He's a very smart guy.

873
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: I don't believe for a second it was just by

874
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: some sheer, you know, slip of the tongue, or he

875
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: reverted back to his commentator days at Fox, or I

876
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: think he said he had won too many lattes or whatever.

877
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: There's none of that happened by I just felt like

878
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: he walked into that locker room and it had the

879
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: feel of five and twelve, and he wanted to make

880
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 2: it clear to everyone in that locker room the only

881
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: reason you guys are five and twelve is the complete

882
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: incompetence of the coaching staff. They screwed up big time

883
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: here and he could have done that privately, but why

884
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: would he do it publicly? And I think he felt

885
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: starting with his quarterback, they needed a jolt because now

886
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: you know it, they're a marked team now. I mean

887
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: when your coach comes out and does the unthinkable, which

888
00:46:54,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: is publicly, you know, downgrade the job of his predecessor,

889
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: you got a target on your back. So what did

890
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: you make of though Russell Wilson, I would venture a guess.

891
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: Never has he played four offensive series in his first

892
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: preseason game, but he did for Sean Payton. What did

893
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: you make of that?

894
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: Well? I think Sean Payton is trying to set a

895
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: tone that what happened last year is not going to

896
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: happen this year. And I think there's a lot behind that.

897
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: To the Hackett comments. First, I felt like underneath all

898
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 3: of that was a message to Russell Wilson specifically, and

899
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: it wasn't necessarily I know you're still an MVP level

900
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: player or something like that. I think it was I'm

901
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 3: going to throw this dude under the bus, and I'm

902
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: going to make sure that as much of the stink

903
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: on you right now as I can get off, I'm

904
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: gonna get off. But now you'd better shape up this year.

905
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 3: I guarantee you, so I can do this ain next

906
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: offseason and we won't have Nathaniel Hackett to talk about.

907
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: I felt like this whole thing was a message to Russ.

908
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to give you a clean slate to save

909
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: your legacy, because I do still think there's something left. Now,

910
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: let's get to work, let's keep your guys out of

911
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: the facility. And I think to some degree that's why

912
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 3: he played in the preseason, and to some degree that's

913
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: why Russ did play in the preseason. Was it wasn't

914
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: just from Sean Payton's side, but it was Russell Wilson

915
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: potentially saying to Sean Payton, you know what, I'm not

916
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: even gonna argue with this. I'm gonna humble myself enough.

917
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: I know who you are, I respect you. It just

918
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: feels like there's a little bit of mind games being

919
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: played on both sides, where Russ is trying to fall

920
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: in line and Sean Payton is setting up the stakes

921
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: so that Russ will fall in line. I think there

922
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: is a very calculated I think it's all very calculated

923
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: what Sean Payton has done. He has basically put the

924
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: target on his own back and tried to take it

925
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: off of his team. And the thing about it was,

926
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: I was fine with what he said, and I didn't

927
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: care about the apology one bit because regardless of him

928
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 3: walking it back, that is what he thought and he's

929
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 3: not wrong. I had to watch that team last year.

930
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: We all did. We had to watch that Thursday night

931
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: game with the Colts, for example, we had to watch

932
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: the Sunday game against the Jags over in London. Like

933
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: what Seohn Payton was saying was accurate. And he's a

934
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 3: guy that's used to being in situations where those teams

935
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: won a lot of games. And then he walks in

936
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: and he sees this and he's like, Nah, this can't happen.

937
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: Like I've got to set a tone and change the

938
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: culture right now. And if that means abrasive, if that

939
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: means hurting a few people's feelings, if that means hurting

940
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: a few egos and forcing them to play a little

941
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 3: bit more in the preseason, That's exactly what I'm gonna do.

942
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: Because I was paid a lot of money to come

943
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: here and win, and I kind of liked myself a lot,

944
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 3: and I want to make sure my legacy is intact.

945
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot that went into that

946
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: behind the scenes where Sean Payton is setting the stage

947
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: for the future.

948
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: I agree with one hundred percent of what you said. Well,

949
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: actually it's ninety nine percent, okay, And I'll tell you

950
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: the one percent I don't agree with. All Right, First

951
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 2: of all, understand this about Sean Payton and the deal

952
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: that he signed with the Walton family. The Walton family

953
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: is the richest family in America. The deal that he

954
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: signed with the Broncos is the most unbreakable deal that

955
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: any current NFL coach has. I mean, he will determine,

956
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: he will determine how long he coaches the Denver Broncos.

957
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: That's his contract, that's the deal that he got from

958
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: the Broncos. So his job security is one hundred percent.

959
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: The one thing and everything you were on the mark

960
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: with one hundred The only thing I might disagree with

961
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: is the fact that he sees something perhaps in Russell Wilson.

962
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he sees anything in Russell Wilson.

963
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

964
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: I think that Russell Wilson will be the quarterback of

965
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos this year. Now, if they turn it around,

966
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: they win eleven or twelve games and win a couple

967
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: of playoff games, and he bears some resemblance to the

968
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: MVP candidate what he was for much of his Seattle career,

969
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: then fine, Russell Wilson will be the quarterback. But anything

970
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: less than that he gone, Like this is it? I

971
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 2: mean he is, he will, he will be gone.

972
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: Now.

973
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: You say, well, they're going to take a big it

974
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to the Walton family, right

975
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: and it certainly is not going to matter to Sean Payton.

976
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: Right he is You talk about a short leash. That's

977
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: where Russell Wilson is right now. So for the fact

978
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: that he was out there for four series, you know,

979
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: finally threw a touchdown pass the judy after they're going

980
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: against like the fifth string defense. Yeah, I one hundred

981
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: percent agree with you that. You know he's he's not

982
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: going to coddle Russell Wilson. If anything, he's going to

983
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: use him as a scapegoat if things don't go badly

984
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: this year. Sean Payton does have a relentless ego, relentless ego,

985
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't believe that Russell Wilson can execute

986
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: his offense, he's gone.

987
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: Oh. I agree. I also think Steve, no way does

988
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: he take that job if he doesn't have assurances that

989
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: they will get rid of Russ if it doesn't work

990
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: this year. There's no way that they said you got

991
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: to make this work for three to five years. No,

992
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: Sean Payton wouldn't have even taken the phone call the

993
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: second time. And that was part of the deal, right.

994
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't. Russell Wilson wasn't theirs, you know

995
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: what I mean. I mean it was. And again, when

996
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: you have that kind of wealth, we're talking about the

997
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: richest ownership in the league, then yeah, I mean they're

998
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: one hundred percent in with Sean Payton. Sean Payton will

999
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: make all the decisions. That's what he wanted to come

1000
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: back as a coach, I want total control of personnel

1001
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: for my franchise, every position, regardless of contracts. So yeah,

1002
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: if I were Russell Wilson right now, I'd be a

1003
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: little nervous because he has zero job security in that

1004
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Broncos job. So very quickly your gut feeling on the

1005
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: Broncos for twenty twenty three. Are you smelling a rebound

1006
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: from last year's debacle or are you seeing baby steps?

1007
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: What are you see in twenty twenty three?

1008
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, you're dealing with the Chargers. I'm

1009
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: still not sure about Brandon Staley. We'll see what Kellen

1010
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: Moore does. Obviously, the Chiefs are the Chiefs. I don't

1011
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 3: think the Raiders are going to be good at all,

1012
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 3: But so I think they're going to be a better team.

1013
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be a more discipline team. It's

1014
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: going to rise and fall on what Russell Wilson does have.

1015
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm afraid I don't think it's going to be a

1016
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: particularly good year. Do I think it could be a

1017
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: winning season? Yes, I think you're going to see the

1018
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: makings of what Sean Payton wants to do. It's almost

1019
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: like the college coach all but he's got to get

1020
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 3: in there and recruit his guys. He's got to get

1021
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 3: his guys in Well, he didn't have all that yet,

1022
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: and I don't think he has this guy at quarterback,

1023
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: and so I think this is a process. I think

1024
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: we're going to see some of those signs of all right, well,

1025
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: Sean Payton's probably gotten about the most out of them

1026
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: that anyone could and then we're gonna see what the

1027
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: future has. If I had to bet on it now,

1028
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: i'd say it's eight to nine, nine and eight something

1029
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: like that.

1030
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I believe that the Sean Payton Russell

1031
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: Wilson coach quarterback dynamic as far as a new pairing,

1032
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: is the second most intriguing this season. I'll tell you

1033
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: what the first most intriguing is. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1034
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Jason Martin, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

1035
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: from the Tirerack dot Com studios. I keep staring here

1036
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: at this Saints Chiefs game, like you look at that score,

1037
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: Jay Mario, seventeen to seven sais and you're reminded we're

1038
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: just we're watching meaningless preseason football with a lot of

1039
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: no names on the field. But there are certain games

1040
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: that have been, you know, getting headlines in this first

1041
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: week of first full week of the preseason football. So

1042
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: I mentioned going into the break that I think the

1043
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: Sean Payton dynamic of Russell Wilson is the second most

1044
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: intriguing quarterback coach duo dynamic in twenty twenty three. For me,

1045
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: the number one, and to me it's not even close,

1046
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: is what's happy in Indianapolis with a rookie coach Shane

1047
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: Steichen coupled with Anthony Richardson. And the reason I say

1048
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: that is if you look at the history of the

1049
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: National Football League, and in particular, if you look at

1050
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: coaches that have a spot in the Pro Football Hall

1051
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: of Fame with very few exceptions, they're there because of

1052
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: the success of their quarterback. Now, I can always go

1053
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: back and forth like who made who you know? And

1054
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: we can you know? This endless Belichick versus Brady argument

1055
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: certainly looks very much in favor of Brady with the

1056
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: success he had immediately in Tampa and the lack of

1057
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 2: success that Belichick has had since Brady left. But if

1058
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 2: you're a young coach like Shane Steichen, you've been basically

1059
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: told by ownership because Jimmers say made it clear when

1060
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: they drafted Anthony Richardson that even if they had had

1061
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick, they would have taken Anthony Richardson.

1062
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: I want to start this because you're right there in

1063
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: sec country. So you got a chance to see this

1064
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: guy in college. Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm looking

1065
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: at the numbers. I didn't see a whole lot of

1066
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: Florida football, but there was certainly nothing that jumped off

1067
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: the page where you're like, Okay, the guy's completing like

1068
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 2: fifty four percent of his passes. How is that going

1069
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: to translate to the NFL? So when he got all

1070
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: the booming hype coming out of the Combine, were you

1071
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: laughing about it or were you saying to yourself, Yeah,

1072
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: he's that good. Potentially as he moves to the next level.

1073
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: I think it's probably somewhere in the middle. But I

1074
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 3: think that it's what you have seen and what he's

1075
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: capable of, not just what we were told he was

1076
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: capable of a couple of years ago, but also just

1077
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: looking at him his measurables, you know what he was

1078
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: able to do, for example, at the Combine. Just you

1079
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: look at the guy and he's super impressive, and you

1080
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: just think, man, if he falls into the right situation

1081
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: with the right coach, the right guy that can help him,

1082
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: because he's still super raw and there's still a lot

1083
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: of matchuration on the football field that he's going to

1084
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: have to learn, and stepping into the NFL, that's going

1085
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: to be very, very difficult for him, especially in Indie

1086
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: where they still just seem to be there's like a

1087
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: virus that keeps wide receiver depth from existing in Indianapolis

1088
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: almost at all times. Understand it, but they just don't

1089
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: have very much weaponry around him, So he's going to

1090
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: have He's gonna have a lot of struggles. But I

1091
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: think it's man if he could just live up to

1092
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: what we know he's capable of his arm strength, if

1093
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: we can bring the accuracy up, if we can make

1094
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: sure the decision making is what it's supposed to be.

1095
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of caveats in the last couple

1096
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: of sentences that I have uttered, but if you could

1097
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: harness it properly, my goodness, the sky is the limit

1098
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: for him. So it's the difference between what we perceive

1099
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: he's capable of and the reality of what he's shown.

1100
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: I certainly was not on the full hype train because

1101
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of Florida football last year and

1102
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: it just it just felt like he needs more time.

1103
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: He needs he needs real time and real patience. And

1104
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: honestly that that's kind of rare in this day and

1105
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: age in professional sports. You don't usually get that time

1106
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: unless you have Aaron Rodgers that you have to sit

1107
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: behind for a couple of years or something like that.

1108
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: And that's not the Indy went for a guy because

1109
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: they're getting tired of the continuing conveyor belt line that

1110
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: is their quarterback position over the last half decade since

1111
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Andrew Luck decided to retire. I I think that man.

1112
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: I hope he does because it's gonna be He's he's

1113
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: gonna be scintillating if he If he lives up to

1114
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: the potential that he has, he's gonna be must watch

1115
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be incredible football. But it's gonna take

1116
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: some time, and I'm definitely I'm gonna it's a wait

1117
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: and see with me.

1118
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: For Anthony Richardson, Yeah, Shane Stike in after yesterday's game

1119
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: and Anthony played Okay, he threw an interception early had

1120
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: a misread on one play through an interception, and after

1121
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: that he settled in. By the way, they still haven't

1122
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: made up their mind if they're gonna start the season

1123
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson or Gardner Minshew, who, by the way,

1124
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: was a perfect six or six on the second string

1125
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: seventy two yards yesterday. But when the owner is publicly

1126
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: stating that this was the best player in the draft,

1127
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: then Anthony Richardson is going to be your quarterback. And

1128
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: here's the thing about Shane stike And I saw Shane

1129
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: working down there in San Diego for a little bit,

1130
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: and he was on the same staff with Frank Reich

1131
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: and Nick Sirianni. So they had all these you know

1132
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: guys that, by the way, they couldn't win anything together

1133
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: in San Diego, but they seem to have flourished since

1134
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: they left the charge of organization joined the club anyway,

1135
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: So I look at stichen situation because he's a very

1136
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: serious minded coach, you know, Sirianni sort of a goofy guy.

1137
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: That's not Shane stikeen. And so Anthony Richardson, and I

1138
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: guess part of it is the whole phenomenon that was

1139
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and Buffalo, right. I mean in college he

1140
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: was a fifty five percent passer. No, you don't go

1141
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: from that to sixty nine percent in the NFL unless

1142
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: Brian Dable your coach, which is a GAC that would

1143
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: happen in tutoring Josh Allen to become an accurate passer,

1144
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: because no offense works from a passing standpoint without accuracy.

1145
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: You can't run an NFL offense effectively if you're completing

1146
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: less than sixty percent of your passes. So that's going

1147
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: to be the question moving for it. Now, how do

1148
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: you get there? Right? And so this comes down to

1149
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: a couple things. You gonna have all the physical gifts

1150
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: in the world. When you're the most gifted athlete on

1151
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: the field, especially at the collegiate level, you can get

1152
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: away with a lot that does not play in the

1153
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: NFL at all. I remember when Vince Young came in

1154
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: the NFL and he was the offensive rookie of the

1155
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: year and then things started going south. Why it wasn't

1156
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: Vince Young, It's that defensive coordinators figured out his weaknesses.

1157
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had film on him. They years worth the tape,

1158
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: and they figured him out.

1159
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: They figured him out. They said, the guy can't throw

1160
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: going to his left. He wants to go to his right,

1161
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: So we're going to take that away from him. So

1162
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: these are the obstacles that Anthony Richardson is going to

1163
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: be facing moving forward. And at the same time, you

1164
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: got a coach that obviously is getting this opportunity be

1165
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: ahead coach in the NFL. He wants to make it work,

1166
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: but maybe he's of the mindset of what you just

1167
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: talked about, like he's not quite ready yet and throwing

1168
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: him out there to the Wolves may not be the

1169
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: best idea for his long term And so that whole dynamic,

1170
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: to me, is going to be very because honestly, I

1171
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: thought the Colts were a team on the commune. Know

1172
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: there's rotation of quarterbacks after Andrew Luck unexpectedly retired, and

1173
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: yet they were still there like they were in playoff

1174
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: contention until last year and things completely fell apart.

1175
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I agree, I agree that. I mean

1176
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: that I think that the best that you're making if

1177
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: you're a Colts fan, and maybe even if you're Jim Mersey,

1178
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: is that it was more stiching in Philadelphia than it

1179
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 3: was Sirianni right, that really helped develop Jayalen Hurts because

1180
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: Jaywen Hurts had a ton of question marks. Yes, and

1181
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: now those question marks have Benny raced. It's going to

1182
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: be really interesting to see what the Eagles are without

1183
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 3: both of those coordinators, but particularly without Stiking. And if

1184
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 3: Stiking can bring some of what he was able to

1185
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: kind of instill in Jayleen Hurts into a young Anthony Richardson,

1186
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: and Richardson's mindset is such that he just wants to

1187
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: be a sponge and absorb all that information. It could

1188
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 3: be a perfect match.

1189
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: All right, we got more NFL to get to, but

1190
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a difference spin at you, j mart

1191
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: on the other side. First though, let's find out what

1192
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: it's trending right now. So, Monsy, where were your seats?

1193
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean you were at so far right.

1194
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 6: I'm stuck. Yes, No, I'm good. I was sitting with Jesus.

1195
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 6: But it was fine. No, it was great. It was

1196
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 6: really great.

1197
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, and that place was packed, super packed.

1198
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 6: It was awesome. There was not an empty seat.

1199
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 7: I've never been to a concert where it was like that,

1200
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 7: Like I've been to several concerts, so you could see,

1201
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 7: you know, open seats, No this was completely full from

1202
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 7: top to bottom.

1203
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 6: They gave us these light up.

1204
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 7: Bracelets and so the bracelets had their own way of

1205
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 7: lighting up based on the song and then colors and

1206
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 7: you would just see the color scheme across and like.

1207
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 6: It was so awesome, it was so so great. She

1208
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 6: did not stop.

1209
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 7: If she stopped, she maybe stopped for two minutes, and

1210
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 7: it was because she was changing into another awesome glittery outfit.

1211
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 7: Like she did not stop. If you went to the restroom,

1212
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 7: you missed a song because she wasn't stopping.

1213
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jmr. Have you gone to see her

1214
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: in concert?

1215
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: No, I've never seen swifting it out.

1216
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: So no, no, no I haven't.

1217
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 6: But you said you have a daughter.

1218
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: Yes I did.

1219
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 7: Maybe one day, maybe one day you'll be at Taylor Swift.

1220
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 2: Oh my daughter has seen Taylor's.

1221
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 6: I'd never seen her.

1222
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 7: And I love all the videos of dads waiting outside

1223
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 7: the concert venues waiting for their.

1224
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 6: Daughters to come out. And all the dads are dressed.

1225
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 7: The same, They're all in shorts, a baseball cab, a

1226
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 7: T shirt, and they're all waiting for their daughters.

1227
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 6: It's so great. It was so awesome.

1228
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: It was amazing, amazing, except they don't go in.

1229
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 6: They don't, they don't.

1230
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 7: I'm sure they didn't want to, but it's really, you know,

1231
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 7: we were I was sitting.

1232
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 6: Next to this I'm gonna guess she was about.

1233
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 7: Fifteen years old with her mother, and the mother was

1234
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 7: just there like sitting down.

1235
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 6: Didn't get up.

1236
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: How many guys already?

1237
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 6: They got many?

1238
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 7: But you could see boyfriends, a couple of husbands, you know,

1239
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 7: a couple of other fans like you know, there were some,

1240
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 7: but it was definitely heymarty.

1241
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: You're ever drag to a concert you really didn't want

1242
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: to go to because of them?

1243
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: No, not not really. I mean my wife has taken

1244
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: me to a few, but we have similar music takes.

1245
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: It's one of the things we bonded over.

1246
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 6: So no, not really, No, not that one.

1247
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1248
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: You know Luis Miguel, Luis Migauz. Yes, you know the name.

1249
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 6: Are you talking about Louis Miguez Louise Miguel.

1250
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, of course I know louisgu When I met

1251
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: my wife, she was the biggest, really and I went

1252
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: to a concert.

1253
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome.

1254
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't speak anyes Manuel. I had no idea what

1255
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: was going on, that's kind of boyfriend.

1256
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 7: I was that good for you know, he is an

1257
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 7: amazing he's a heart throb. He's a heart throb. Back

1258
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 7: it still is. Yeah.

1259
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: I also took her as a gift when Ricky Martin

1260
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: nodded on the scene, I want to take her to

1261
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: Staples Center to see Ricky Martin.

1262
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 6: Now, how much did you shake your booty? Because there's

1263
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 6: it's impossible to not.

1264
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 2: Nobody was looking at.

1265
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 6: Me like, if you're listening effect, I love that. That's amazing. Well,

1266
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 6: we got baseball.

1267
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 7: In full effect today, Fellas. The Cubs were up, but

1268
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 7: not any more. Blue Jays have taken the lead. Dalton

1269
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 7: var Show had a three run homer. Eight is five

1270
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 7: to two bottom of the third inning. The Guardians have

1271
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 7: extended their lead over the Rays. It's six to zero

1272
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 7: bottom of the third. The Yankees have added another run

1273
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 7: thanks to an RBI.

1274
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 6: Double by John Carlos Stanton.

1275
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 7: Obviously, so they're blanking the Marlins two zero, bottom of

1276
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 7: the third inning. The Rwers have scored first against the

1277
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 7: White Sox in Chicago. It's one zero bottom of the second.

1278
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 7: The Red Sox holding onto their lead over the Tigers.

1279
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 7: They're at home. It's six ' three top of the

1280
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 7: ninth inning and the Tigers are down to their final out.

1281
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 6: The Twins have added one more run. They're beating the

1282
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 6: Phillies to zero.

1283
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 7: They're about to start the bottom of the fourth inning

1284
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 7: and the Reds have scored first against the Pirates. They

1285
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 7: do have a double header. This is game one. It

1286
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,479
Speaker 7: is one zero, bottom of the fourth inning. And yes,

1287
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 7: we do have NFL preseason action. It's halftime between the

1288
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 7: Chiefs and the Saints. New Orleans up seventeen to seven.

1289
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Speaker 7: But again it is preseason. Another NFL news, the Miami

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Speaker 7: Dolphins have signed wide receiver Keiki Cuti like the Orange,

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Speaker 7: that's right, who was released by the Saints on Friday.

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Speaker 6: Miami also signed defensive back Jamal Perry.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Last we'll check in with you a little bit later

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Speaker 2: on Steve Harvin, Jason Martin here, Fox Sports Sunday. I

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Speaker 2: want to switchcars for a second, or j mart Big

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Speaker 2: n NBA News, James Harden. The Philadelphia seventy six ers

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Speaker 2: have made a clear not going anywhere, and I want

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on this because this in particular

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: is an NBA situation where players now are dictating to

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01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: teams not only when they want to play, where they

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: want to play, who they want to play for, and

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01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: get it done or I'm done. And the Sixers, I know,

1304
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: made the obligatory call to the Clippers because apparently James Harden,

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: who's a LA kid, wants to come back and play

1306
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: for the Clippers, but the Clippers were not offering anywhere

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01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: near the package and return. By the way, it's very

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: similar with the Damian Liller situation in Portland that he

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01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: wants to play for the Heat, except the Heat have

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: nothing to offer that Portland's interested in. Same thing happen

1311
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: here with the Sixers and the Clippers. Is this good

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 2: for a sport that in some respect they've caved in

1313
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:05,440
Speaker 2: to the demands of the players to let them dictate

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Speaker 2: where and when they play.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's interesting from a soap opera standpoint.

1316
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 3: It keeps the league in the news even when there's

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 3: not anything else going on. It definitely makes their players'

1318
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: bigger stars because they are in the news. But no,

1319
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 3: not necessarily when it comes to Harden. Why would you

1320
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: offer a ton if you're the Clippers for James Harden.

1321
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 3: I don't understand it. I don't know. I've been negative

1322
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: on Harden for a very long time. But I have

1323
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 3: said many times on these very same airwaves that if

1324
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: James Harden plays for your team, I will not pick

1325
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 3: your team to win the championship. I just won't. It's

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 3: not a thing that's going to happen, because I have

1327
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 3: a mountain of evidence that tells me I'm going to

1328
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 3: be right. The only way that I would pick it

1329
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 3: to happen is if I've already seen it happen with

1330
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: my own eyes the year prior. That's the only way

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 3: I might even change my mind. I don't think at

1332
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 3: this stage you're gonna make yourself particularly better by bringing

1333
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 3: James Harden into your organization. I don't think you're gonna

1334
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 3: make your chemistry better. I don't think you're gonna make

1335
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: your locker room better. I don't think that you're going

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: to make much of anything better. The Clippers already have

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: a couple of kind of aloof personalities. There's no reason

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01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 3: to add this to it. But you're right. Unlike the

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01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 3: NFL the NBA, the powers in the hands of the

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 3: players in a much different respect. I think that at times,

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: it makes it hard for some fans to embrace the

1342
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 3: league the way they otherwise would because they just get

1343
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: the sense that the athletes don't care about them at all.

1344
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Speaker 3: And look, that may be true in every pro sport,

1345
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: as matter of fact, it probably is in a lot

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: of cases, but they hide it better. The NFL or

1347
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: the NBA does not hide their sort of It just

1348
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: comes across as a very self absorbed league in a

1349
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 3: way that other pro sports don't.

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Speaker 2: If that makes sense, well it does make sense. But also,

1351
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: one thing we find out about these sports leagues across

1352
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: the board, they tend to be copycats, right, so if

1353
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: it works for one team, it's going to work for us.

1354
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: And if you look at the last three NBA champions,

1355
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: the Bucks in twenty one, the Warriors in twenty two,

1356
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: and the Nuggets this year, what are these three teams

1357
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: have in common? Their core were homegrown, you know, I

1358
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: mean they basically their core they're elite players were home grown.

1359
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 2: You can even throw the Celtics who got to the

1360
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 2: finals a couple years ago in that same vein. So

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Speaker 2: this idea of acquiring players and you know, putting guys together,

1362
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: it's not working anymore. I mean, look at Phoenix two

1363
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: years ago. They won what sixty four games, and they

1364
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: gutted the depth of their team to get Kevin Durant

1365
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: didn't look all that great in the postseason, and now

1366
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: there are a noseman's land because they lost the depth.

1367
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at some look at the Clippers.

1368
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: I mean, in order to get Kawhi Leonard, Kawhi Leonard

1369
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: tells their zillionaire owner, the only way I'm gonna sign

1370
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Speaker 2: with the Clippers is you get me Paul George. They

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01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: gave up six number ones. Yeah, for Paul George. How's

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01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: that work?

1373
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,520
Speaker 3: So I haven't worked to a championship?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it just amazing to me when I

1375
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: think of someone like Steve Bomber, who is the tenth

1376
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: wealthiest person on the planet, a guy that could literally

1377
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: buy the entire NBA, that could be the National Bomber Association,

1378
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: and he's being dictated to by the players.

1379
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: Just it just.

1380
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely mind boggling to me. So I'm about free agency.

1381
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: I'm about players having freedom. I mean, because so much

1382
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: of what happens in sports is so backwards to the

1383
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: rest of the world world. Imagine Jamart if you had

1384
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: come out of college and you want to work in

1385
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: sports and you're drafted. I'm like, I drafted draft to where,

1386
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: Well you got drafteds Moines wants you yep, Well I

1387
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: don't want to work in des Moin. Well, you don't

1388
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 2: have a choice. So the draft is so illegal in sports.

1389
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: At some point, the draft's going to go away because

1390
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 2: everyone understands it's illegal what they do. Yeah, yeah, telling

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: someone where they're gonna work and everything else. But that aside.

1392
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 2: If you're an owner, I mean, you want certain control

1393
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: considering it's your money that they're playing with. So it's

1394
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 2: it's an interesting dynamic. But I will say this for

1395
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: the Sixers. Now he may hold out. I mean he says,

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01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: right now, I'm not showing up a training camp. Fine,

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: don't show up. You don't show up, We're not gonna

1398
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: pay you. You're gonna avoid your contract. You know, you

1399
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: can make the choice. But someone has got an up.

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: And by the way, the silence from the commissioner, Adam Silver,

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean to me, everyone loves to praise this guy.

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01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: And there's certain things you could say how he's been

1403
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: able to finagle billions of dollars out of China to

1404
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: pay these players. But the fact that he takes a

1405
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: step back and lets this happen on his watch doesn't

1406
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: look good to me.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. I mean I think that

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01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 3: Adam Silver he looks a lot of times like he

1409
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 3: doesn't have a backbone, just kind of the way he's

1410
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: built up. He's kind of strange and lanky and all

1411
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 3: that doesn't look like he's a particularly strong guy. His

1412
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: leadership is also relatively feckless. It doesn't feel like it

1413
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 3: has backbone. It feels like every five seconds he is

1414
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 3: laying prone on the ground and being stomped over by

1415
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 3: the athletes in his league in a way that David

1416
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 3: Stern flat out never was.

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: All right on the other side, and we get back

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: to some college football, if we will. I love college football.

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Week zero is just a couple of

1421
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Speaker 2: weeks away. I want to ask you about the most

1422
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 2: famous face on the college football scene and whether or

1423
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: not his position has been replaced. Well, explain. This is

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:17,839
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Jason Martin Here, Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: We are live from the Tireac dot Com studios. So

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: j mart a little bit earlier, we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: ever evolving landscape of well, college football, let's call it

1428
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: for what it is. I mean, you know there's college basketball,

1429
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: the Olympic sports. They're all going to have some effect

1430
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,959
Speaker 2: with all these reconfigurations of the conferences and you know, traveling,

1431
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: all the other things that are being discussed. But college

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: football ren supreme. It is the free minor league of

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 2: the National Football League. Whi's a hell of a deal

1434
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: for the NFL. So there has been one dominant name

1435
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: in college football. I want to always an update in

1436
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: this man. Sixteen years as the head coach of Alabama,

1437
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: his record is one ninety four and twenty seven. That

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: includes his first year when he was seven and six,

1439
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: So if you take that year out, he was one

1440
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: eighty seven and twenty one. That's close to a ninety

1441
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: percent winning percentage. I mean, we can talk about the

1442
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 2: greatest coach's most successful coaches in college football history. He's

1443
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: number one. There's never been a college I mean, they

1444
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: can go back to New Rockney. I mean, you can

1445
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: throw all the names out there. He is the most

1446
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: successful college football coach of all time, certainly based on

1447
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: what he stunned Alabama, but he's still the best coach

1448
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 2: now and you're in the uh hotbed of college football

1449
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: down there in SEC country. Is there a perception that

1450
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 2: Kirby's Smart now a protege of Nick Saban, has taken

1451
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: over as the dominant coaching force in America.

1452
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's if it's phrased that way,

1453
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's phrase has Georgia replaced Alabama?

1454
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 3: Then yes, I feel like Georgia is the new Alabama.

1455
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: Alabama is the new Florida, and Saban has kind of

1456
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 3: become the new Urban Meyer. Where there is somebody else

1457
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 3: for Urban Meyer, it was Nick Saban. For Nick Saban,

1458
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 3: it is Kirby Smart. But I don't I don't know.

1459
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just something about Kirby Smart. But I don't

1460
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 3: look at Kirby Smart and think, well, he's better than

1461
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 3: Nick Saban. I still believe Nick Saban is the best

1462
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: college football coach in the country right now. I just

1463
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 3: think that in this era, especially as things are changing

1464
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: within IL and all this, but even before that, Georgia

1465
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: finally getting the players that they used to maybe not

1466
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 3: always get, and they have a coach that does know

1467
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 3: what to do with them. But it's become kind of

1468
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 3: a snowball rolling downhill and just gathering and gathering and gathering.

1469
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: You see guys flipping to Georgia all the time. Their

1470
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 3: recruiting is outrageously good, and unlike Jimbo Fisher, they kind

1471
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: of know what to do with those guys, especially on

1472
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: offense when they get them there. So I think it's

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 3: more that I don't look at I still think if

1474
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: you surveyed a thousand people in my town here in Nashville,

1475
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 3: ten thousand people even, and so who's the best college

1476
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 3: football coach? I think the vast majority would still say

1477
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 3: Nick Saban. You would get a few Kirby Smarts. But

1478
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: I think that it's much more about Georgia as a

1479
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 3: brand and the players and the way that they have

1480
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 3: recruited than it is Kirby Smart. I don't think he

1481
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: has talked about in the same echelon as a Nick Saban,

1482
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: if that makes sense.

1483
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: Well, I was just watching yesterday a little update on

1484
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: Alabama as they try to figure out who's going to

1485
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: replace Bryce Young at quarterback, and they still don't have

1486
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: an answer, right. I mean, we're weeks away, obviously from

1487
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: the start of the season, and Alabama does not have

1488
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 2: an answer as to his their definitive number one quarterback.

1489
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: I just wonder, now that you know Nick is seventy

1490
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: one years old, you know, he certainly has nothing to prove.

1491
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,959
Speaker 2: I mean, he walks away today, his record is secure.

1492
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering how driven he is. And you could

1493
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 2: sense the frustration where he really called out Jimbo Fisher

1494
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: and spending all the money at A and M and

1495
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,480
Speaker 2: this whole name, image and likeness, it's changed the whole dynamic.

1496
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean, look what Lincoln Riley did at USC. They

1497
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 2: brought him like twenty plus transfers and they are rolling

1498
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: out money like you can't believe. Jason, I'm telling you

1499
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 2: the amount of money Caleb Williams is actually getting as

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01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: opposed to what's being speculated, It's like night and day.

1501
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: The price tag on Caleb Williams at US is beyond believe.

1502
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 2: What USC gave Lincoln right, yeah, is unreal. It's big money.

1503
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: And of course now USC has all that big ten

1504
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 2: money coming in. It's so ain't gonna go up. I

1505
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: just wonder if a guy like Nick Saban, who still

1506
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: strikes me as pretty much an old school guy, really

1507
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 2: wants to put up with this crap, Like, you know,

1508
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: I could develop a player and he could be an

1509
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: All American for me, I had no idea. What did

1510
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: they offer Bryce Young or Will Anderson a year ago

1511
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: to make sure they didn't go away?

1512
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 3: Right?

1513
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: So I mean, you're not wrong. I just to me.

1514
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: For a guy like Saban, I'm just like, look at

1515
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: Recruiting's tough enough, but now I got to worry year

1516
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: to year of keeping my players because somebody else may

1517
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: offer them more money. It's crazy.

1518
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I said, I think I said before last

1519
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: college football season, and whoever was producing on.

1520
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: Fox stay right there, stay right there. We got to

1521
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: get to it. Coming up much more here on Fox

1522
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Continuing a very busy Sunday on the sports scene.

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Speaker 2: should be. Jamar, let me ask you this as a

1529
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 2: man of the South, so you grew up in North Carolina,

1530
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: Am I right?

1531
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: I was born in Virginia, but yeah, I grew up

1532
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:25,839
Speaker 3: in North Carolina.

1533
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 2: So you grew up in North Carolina. What is your

1534
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: perspective as someone from that region of the country from

1535
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: a sports standpoint of those of us on the West coast. Hmmm,

1536
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 2: maybe be perfectly honest here, there's no wrong answer. Guse

1537
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, man.

1538
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 3: Late showing up, early, leaving. That's one thing that I've

1539
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: always heard being with Fox for as long as I

1540
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 3: have now talking to a lot of folks that live

1541
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: out there, I've come to understand it's a Lakers Dodgers town,

1542
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: with us being the other pro team. That it's not

1543
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 3: the Rams, that it never has been. That it's not

1544
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: the Chargers, that it never has been. The Kings are

1545
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 3: a cool little story here and there, but it's not

1546
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: you know, that's not an un particularly you don't mover,

1547
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 3: but generally it is. They do care about the NFL,

1548
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 3: but they really liked baseball, they really liked the NBA,

1549
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 3: and college football in many respects is kind of meaningless

1550
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: to a lot of them outside of maybe SC, especially

1551
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 3: when SC is good and Snoop Dogg and Will Ferrell

1552
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 3: are on the sidelines.

1553
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: Well, I it's a celebrity town. There's no question about that.

1554
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: I've said this many times about the Lake. Great doctor

1555
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: Jerry Buss. He made the NBA. I mean, the NBA

1556
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: was in shambles, you know, barely breathing before he took

1557
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 2: over ownership of the Lakers and created a different look

1558
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: for the league. It wasn't just showtime Lakers, Magic Johnson

1559
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: and company. It was the perception that you created the

1560
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: NBA games as a place to be if you were

1561
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,799
Speaker 2: a celebrity. He waited, sure you got recognizable faces and seats.

1562
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: This draws people to it. One of the drawbacks of

1563
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 2: being a West Coast guy in the sports world for

1564
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 2: me all these years is the idea that you can't

1565
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 2: be a West Coast guy and live in breeze sports

1566
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: like you know, the East Coast bias. I mean we've

1567
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: seen it with ESPN for one hundred years, right, I

1568
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: mean this is you know, it's a completely East Coast

1569
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: bias network. It always has been, it always will be.

1570
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 2: And with the growth and the domination of college football

1571
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: in the SEC, I mean, we didn't really get this

1572
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: whole look of what it was, what was going on

1573
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: down there, you know, until the sudden domination with the

1574
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: BCS championship game in the College Football Playoff, not just

1575
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: obviously the SEC, but obviously the ascending of Clemson, you know,

1576
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: such a football power out of the ACC, and Florida

1577
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: State for years, the emergence of the Florida schools going

1578
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: back with the U and then Florida State and Florida everything.

1579
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: This is almost in terms of the history of college football,

1580
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: rather recent phenomenon, and it's difficult to overcome. When you're

1581
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: on the West Coast, it's very different because what you're

1582
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: saying is the national perception of the West Coast. Now,

1583
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: like I said, for many years, I've been in San

1584
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: Diego area as well. I love San Diego, and I've

1585
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: said this many times. There's no city that has suffered

1586
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: more than San Diego. Cleveland has even one championship. San

1587
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: Diego's got nothing. They won an AFL championship in nineteen

1588
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: sixty three, and yet they weren't able to celebrate because

1589
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: of the assassination of President Kennedy. But no one buys it.

1590
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: They're like suffering. You live in the most beautiful city

1591
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: in America. You can't possibly suffer as a sports fan.

1592
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: If you're living in southern California because you got the

1593
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 2: weather and this nothing could be further from the truth.

1594
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: It's very we suffer as much as anyone else by

1595
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: the way bandwagon fans exist everywhere. Let me ask you this,

1596
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: So Alabama. We're talking about Alabama, right, and the fact

1597
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: that you know, Kirby Smart and Georgia back to back

1598
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 2: national championships may now be the team if Alabama, I mean,

1599
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: you're looking at Alabama. I'm still looking at some of

1600
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 2: the preseason rankings. They're top three by everybody, top four,

1601
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. What if Alabama just falls off

1602
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: the cliff? What if these quarterbacks they have none of

1603
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 2: them pan out, you know, sort of like the Uyunga

1604
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: l Lay situation down there at Clemson where they thought

1605
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: he would just take over for Trevor Lawrence and you know,

1606
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 2: just another quarterback, you know, Deshaun Watson Trevor Lawrence didn't

1607
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: work out. What if that happens to Alabama. How quickly

1608
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: do they turn on teams there when they don't live

1609
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:02,440
Speaker 2: up to expectations.

1610
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 3: Well, in terms of jumping off the bandwagon, not very.

1611
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 3: I mean they're the fans of these teams are die

1612
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 3: hard fans. Of these teams turning on specific coaches regimes

1613
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 3: say we got to change this up and that kind

1614
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: of thing. Yeah, that happens very often. The expectations have

1615
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 3: to be met or something has to be done, and

1616
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: there is a vast overreaction and a vast this guy

1617
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 3: stinks immediately when stuff starts happening. There's not a whole

1618
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 3: lot of patience there. Now, if you're a Nick Saban,

1619
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 3: you've created a good bit of equity. Alabama has won

1620
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 3: so much. You laid out the record before the heart

1621
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: out at last hour, like it. Saban's fine for a while,

1622
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 3: quite frankly, if he wants to be I don't think

1623
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 3: he's gonna be there that long personally, But I think

1624
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: that's I think that's more accurate to say that the

1625
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 3: bloom can fall off the rows fast for a coach.

1626
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 3: But you don't ever bail on the team because there's

1627
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: just too much tradition. There's too many families where the

1628
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 3: grandfather passed it to the father, who passed it to

1629
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: the son, and the uncles and the aunts graduated from

1630
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: the same place. They know. They have all the stuff

1631
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 3: on their cars, they have all the stuff around their houses.

1632
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 3: They have the flags at the front door. They've got

1633
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 3: the road painted a certain color, like all the stuff.

1634
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 3: The tradition and pageantry of what college football has been

1635
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 3: is something that's kind of kept it together, which is

1636
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 3: very interesting considering they're seemingly throwing a lot of that

1637
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: out the window right now as you look at the

1638
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 3: realignment structure. I'm curious to know how people feel about

1639
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: college football fifty years from now when it comes to

1640
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 3: the bandwagon, because it might be vastly different than what

1641
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 3: we've seen for the last fifty to one hundred years.

1642
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 2: I agree with you a lot of the selling point

1643
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 2: on college sports in particular, Jason, is the idea that

1644
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: it's about tradition that's literally handed down from generation to generation.

1645
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 2: One thing I've always found out about professional athletes and

1646
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,520
Speaker 2: I'll never get this. Years ago, I was doing a

1647
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: series of articles for a UCLA sports publication and I

1648
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: did a feature piece of members of the UCLA Athletic

1649
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. It's a long list. I mean, you know,

1650
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 2: guys like Jackie Robinson. I mean credible list, right. So,

1651
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: I remember doing a couple of interviews with a couple

1652
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 2: of contemporaries of mine, both members of the College Football

1653
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Linebacker Jerry Robinson had a very successful

1654
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 2: career in the NFL with the Eagles, among other teams.

1655
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: And Kenny Easley, who's in the Hall of Fame, great

1656
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: career with the Seattle Seahawks before injuries cut his career short.

1657
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 2: And I remember sitting down and talking with them about

1658
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: their UCLA career, and there were several years beyond their

1659
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: pro career at this point, and they started getting into

1660
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: details about their college games. And they didn't know what

1661
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: the other one had said, but they both said the

1662
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 2: exact same thing as we were rehashing in their college years.

1663
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 2: They said, you know, it's really amazing. I can remember

1664
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 2: almost every detail of my college career, and I can

1665
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: remember almost no details about my professional career outside of

1666
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: maybe playing in the Super Bowl or something like that.

1667
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 2: The whole dynamic is so different. But this is what

1668
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: makes college sports so great. I mean, you've got these stadiums,

1669
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: all one hundred thousand people. NFL teams could not fill

1670
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 2: those stadiums. I'm sorry they would not, No, not at all,

1671
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 2: and yet they do it every week, whether it's Tennessee

1672
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 2: or all these one hundred thousand Sea stadiums, they're sold out.

1673
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: And so the question is all this realignment, all this

1674
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: dismantling of longtime rivalries, will it have an adverse effect

1675
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: on the following of And again, I want to stick

1676
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 2: with college football because it's the king. What are your thoughts?

1677
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 2: I mean, are they in danger? As these schools are

1678
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: grabbing money, which, by the way, is necessary now if

1679
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: you want to compete with the name, image and likeness,

1680
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 2: you better have a pretty good coll for money available

1681
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: to you. But ultimately, could it destroy the fiber that

1682
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 2: has made college football so special?

1683
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean I think that you are in

1684
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 3: not just danger, I think, and not even just imminent danger,

1685
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 3: but I think this ship is already pulling away from

1686
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 3: the dock. I feel like the novelty of college football,

1687
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 3: what made it unique, is gone and is increasingly just

1688
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 3: deteriorating right before our very eyes. It's becoming like everything else,

1689
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 3: especially in its own sport. And there is something to

1690
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 3: be said for that. There is something to be said

1691
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 3: for going to you know, fill a fill a big house,

1692
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 3: or fill a new and stadium, or fill one of

1693
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 3: these giant buildings, even when the opponent was going to

1694
01:30:54,840 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 3: lose by forty five because of some traditional, long standing

1695
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 3: rivalry within the conference, giving up those things, giving up,

1696
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 3: honestly giving up the regional nature of college football and

1697
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 3: how it feels to be in the South and be

1698
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 3: around the SEC and me growing up on Tobacco Road

1699
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: being around ACC basketball, especially at that point in time

1700
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 3: when I was in high school, was in the mid nineties,

1701
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 3: and the ACC was just absolutely king. I can't imagine

1702
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 3: what it is now in that same area where I

1703
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 3: grew up, where you have all these schools that don't

1704
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 3: make sense from a regional standpoint, there's nothing that ties

1705
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 3: it together. There's no history. That's the thing that makes

1706
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 3: college football is the history. It's being able to have

1707
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 3: a right Thompson or whoever. It is great college football

1708
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 3: writers that can write this lengthy story about this one

1709
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 3: game that was a rivalry for seventy five eighty years,

1710
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff that predates even your own grandparents,

1711
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 3: and you can read it and understand kind of the

1712
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: underlying current that made it special. And college football is now,

1713
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 3: as John Morosi said when he was with us earlier

1714
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: in the show Steve, it is rapidly becoming the fifth

1715
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 3: professional sport. And I don't think there's a way to

1716
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 3: stop the train. Now.

1717
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how to be cause there are going

1718
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 2: to be people that say this just because it has

1719
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 2: been a tradition doesn't mean it has to remain a tradition.

1720
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 3: That's true.

1721
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 2: There is a whole generation people out there that have

1722
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:41,440
Speaker 2: no recall of how big a rivalry Nebraska Oklahoma was none.

1723
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean Nebraska bullet for the Big Ten. They did

1724
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 2: the money grab. By the way, Nebraska football is completely

1725
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: irrelevant now where it used to be. Obviously they were

1726
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 2: one of the standard bearers of the sport. But there's

1727
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 2: a whole generation that doesn't know any better. And I

1728
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 2: guess that's that's the hard thing. So for us that

1729
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 2: you know, grow up with a certain tradition everything else,

1730
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 2: and then it's taken away from us. We're like, yeah,

1731
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's gonna kill the sport. There's another tradition.

1732
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 2: They say, well, you make new traditions. So uh. And

1733
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 2: by the way, college football has a lot Like I

1734
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 2: said a little bit earlier here, when when when the

1735
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 2: University of Miami suddenly became a football power, like suddenly

1736
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: like Notre Dame Miami or Florida State Miami for a

1737
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 2: brief period of time became the game. It's like, how

1738
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 2: did this happen? Mm hm, So it does evolve the boy,

1739
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 2: the money, Oh, the money. It's just absolutely crazy. Bill

1740
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: all right. Coming up on the other side, we'll get

1741
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 2: back to a little NFL preseason talk, and of course

1742
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: the biggest story leading into this season has been the

1743
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 2: New York Jets. Are they going to be as good

1744
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 2: as advertised? Or is there a more distinct possibility that

1745
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is going to find out that he made

1746
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 2: a big mistake. We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1747
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,479
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1760
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 2: me ask you this a very similar feature in our

1761
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: backgrounds in this industry. So I was a very much

1762
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: a behind the scenes guy long before I ever got

1763
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,919
Speaker 2: on air. You know, I was the media relations director

1764
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: of the La Raiders back in the eighties working for

1765
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 2: Al Davis, which was a lot of stories out of that.

1766
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 3: I'll bet someday I want to just sit and listen

1767
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 3: to that.

1768
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: I can tell you there's some unbelievable stories there. But

1769
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 2: there's something to be said about being on both sides

1770
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 2: of the fence in this industry. I mean, you sometimes

1771
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: when you're the behind the scenes guy and you feel

1772
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 2: like because you're sort of helping other people like Star,

1773
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, and you're thinking yourself, I know more than

1774
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 2: this guy is a lot more of that. Did you

1775
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 2: go through all that? I mean, was this something that

1776
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 2: you felt compelled that you had to get your voice

1777
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 2: out there and get your opinions out there on the

1778
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: world of sports.

1779
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 3: I think it's more that I've always not just viewed myself.

1780
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 3: But I've always kind of been a performer, from working

1781
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 3: in professional wrestling to what I used to do musically

1782
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 3: and things like that in high school and early in college,

1783
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 3: to just speaking and things of that nature. It always

1784
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 3: made sense. When I was in college, I was, you know,

1785
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 3: a television anchor for news and sports. I was the

1786
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 3: host of the radio show, and I was doing some

1787
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 3: of the behind the scenes stuff. But I always knew.

1788
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 3: I think it was less that it was less about

1789
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 3: what I did being hard for me to take. And

1790
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 3: I think the bigger problem for me was that I

1791
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 3: wasn't good at that side. We're gifted differently, We're given

1792
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 3: different gifts. You know. I was always one that could

1793
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 3: speak and could write, but I'm not that great when

1794
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 3: it comes to technical stuff. Doesn't mean I can't work

1795
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 3: with Adobe audition and all that kind of stuff. In

1796
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 3: our industry. We have to, but I'm slower at it

1797
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 3: than some people. I'm just I'm not magical at putting

1798
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 3: together audio compilations and things of that nature. I can

1799
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:00,040
Speaker 3: do it, but there are people I know that I

1800
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 3: think are artists when it comes to that stuff, and

1801
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 3: that was never my side. So I think there was

1802
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 3: there was a part of it that was that. And yes,

1803
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 3: there was definitely a part of it where it was

1804
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 3: less about me thinking I was better than who I

1805
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 3: was working for or anything like that, and more me

1806
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 3: knowing I was good enough to do the thing that

1807
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 3: I felt like I actually was gifted and blessed by

1808
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 3: the Lord to do.

1809
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was I was this. I'm a

1810
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,480
Speaker 2: stat geek from the Valley, So I'm like this savant

1811
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 2: of sports stats. What exactly do you do with that? Like,

1812
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 2: how do you how do you make a living doing

1813
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 2: something like that? Thank God for sports talk radio. I

1814
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: mean I was very fortunate to get in literally on

1815
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 2: the ground floor, you know, way back in the early

1816
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: nineties on what was the first all sports station on

1817
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,799
Speaker 2: the West Coast, the w fan of the West Coast

1818
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: and and sort of right place, right time. But I

1819
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 2: nothing has changed for me all these years. I mean,

1820
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 2: every single time I can sit down, express my opinions,

1821
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 2: share opinions, share a conversation with someone that I know

1822
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 2: has the same passion, you can't beat it. You simply

1823
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 2: can't beat it. This is why what we do is

1824
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 2: is so much fun. It's not work. You know, people

1825
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: it's stupid.

1826
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 3: We get paid for this.

1827
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 2: It always has been. I mean I sit here in

1828
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 2: our Fox Sports radio studios here, we got multiple TVs.

1829
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 2: You know, once the football season begins, Jason, it's it's

1830
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 2: you know, our Sunday show, especially like Monsey was. It

1831
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 2: was her first year last year on our Sunday show.

1832
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 2: Can I have Monsey's mic on for a second here,

1833
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 2: so Monsey, Yes, we were getting you ready for week one. Yes,

1834
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: and our show starts at ten am on the West

1835
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: coast one pm on the East coast, and we have

1836
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 2: ten games yeah, kicking off simultaneously.

1837
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 6: Yes.

1838
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 2: And our job for four hours is too literally be

1839
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 2: your eyes.

1840
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1841
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: So if you're listening, you're obviously not watching, and so

1842
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 2: we have to tell you constantly what's going on. I

1843
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 2: remember you, like your first update that first week.

1844
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 6: I think I quit three times out there.

1845
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 2: I know what to do. J Mark. She was like,

1846
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 2: I have ten games going on right now, the same time,

1847
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 2: the same time, and where do we go from here?

1848
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1849
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 6: No, No, Thank goodness for the listeners that they had

1850
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 6: you and Rich because I was like, eh, what nobody

1851
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,959
Speaker 6: told me I was going to do this? Nobody prepared

1852
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 6: me for this. So it's fun. You know, I quit

1853
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 6: a few times, but I'm still here.

1854
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: You know, then you've got in your rhythm of it

1855
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: and you started figuring out. Oh yeah.

1856
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 6: After that, it was like nine games, that's easy.

1857
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 3: Game.

1858
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the season got you know, it's Saturday games,

1859
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:51,560
Speaker 2: so they took some off the Sunday.

1860
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, it's fun times to do it again.

1861
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean, I'll be perfectly honest here, Jmard.

1862
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 2: I mean, like these couple of weeks, uh are rough

1863
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 2: because once once we get week zero, I mean I'm

1864
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 2: even looking for a USC Spartans. And that's not Michigan State,

1865
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 2: that's San Jose State. Okay, just give me some games

1866
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 2: that matter. You look, have you been did you watch?

1867
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Are you fan of Hard Knocks? I used to be

1868
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 2: that sounds.

1869
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 3: Like it's not. Yeah, It's like I think there was

1870
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 3: a time where it just okay, I know what's going

1871
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 3: to happen every year, and I will if there's highlights.

1872
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 3: There's been some times that I will tune in, Like

1873
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 3: the Raiders year I wanted to see because of the

1874
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown situation. I was fascinated by what was going on.

1875
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 3: The last one that I remember just watching start to finish,

1876
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 3: probably was the Jets with Rex Ryan.

1877
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: I was in Courtland. They actually sent us to Courtland,

1878
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 2: New York to promote it, like they sent our radio

1879
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:55,480
Speaker 2: show there. We were there in the middle of nowhere,

1880
01:40:55,520 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 2: near Cornell. By the way. Rex Ryan's teeth are so distracting.

1881
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 2: He's got these veneers. Yeah, that are just absurd. Like

1882
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 2: he was sitting across from us of the table. I'm like, dude,

1883
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 2: what is up with your teeth? Very distracting.

1884
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, like I said, when it comes

1885
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 3: when just when it comes to hard knocks, it's just

1886
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 3: and I think you know this because you've been around

1887
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 3: for as long as you have and you have been

1888
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,879
Speaker 3: that close to it, you know. I've talked to coaches

1889
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 3: that have been a part of it, Yeah, and kind

1890
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 3: of learned how it works and how it doesn't work.

1891
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: It's not a gotcha show. It's a promotional tool for

1892
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 3: the NFL. Sure, and the team has final cut. Nothing

1893
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 3: airs that the team doesn't want to air. They're able

1894
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 3: to turn the cameras off whenever they want. They can

1895
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 3: actually just put a hand signal up and they have

1896
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 3: to shut the cameras down. They get to see the

1897
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 3: footage and then say nope, we're not running that, and

1898
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 3: they'll take it off. So it becomes a promotional tool

1899
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 3: for that organization as well, which is why so often

1900
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 3: you can fall into the trap of watching Hard Knocks

1901
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 3: and getting your heart set that some dude that's barely

1902
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 3: gonna make the team is actually about to be an

1903
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 3: All NFL player and excuse your it's the same thing

1904
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 3: as preseasons, Like you're watching these third stringers, You're like, man,

1905
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 3: why is this guy not starting well? Because he's playing

1906
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 3: against your grandma? Yeah, like that that's why, Like, imagine

1907
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 3: what the dude that is starting would do against these

1908
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 3: guys and say, I think it. I think it's just

1909
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 3: a It's an amazing way for the NFL to promote

1910
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 3: its product and for individual organizations sometimes to create propaganda

1911
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:26,719
Speaker 3: for themselves.

1912
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 2: All right. So on the other side, I want to

1913
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 2: cause I watched the first episode, uh, and I'm I'm

1914
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 2: one of you, one hundred percent, Like I was into

1915
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 2: it early on, but it just seemed to be repetitive

1916
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 2: that it was They're going to, you know, single out

1917
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 2: some obscure player and the Turk would show up and

1918
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 2: hand over the playbook and it's over, and that's that's

1919
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: the whole series. But I'm going to tell you why

1920
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: episode one of this season with the Jets is very

1921
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 2: different for one very specific reason. But first let's find

1922
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 2: out what's trending. So it's the of the calm before

1923
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 2: the storm. Yes, you know, these last couple of weeks

1924
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 2: before the start of regular season.

1925
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 7: Time.

1926
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 6: Totally, yeah, totally.

1927
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 7: I have not watched the first episode of Hard Knocks,

1928
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 7: but I just like to watch more than one episode

1929
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 7: at one time.

1930
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you're the first episode. Well, I'm going to

1931
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 2: get into it why the dynamic of the first episode

1932
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 2: honestly was not what I actually.

1933
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 7: It wasn't what you expected at Okay, all right, Yeah,

1934
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 7: I'm definitely gonna watch it. I'm just waiting for more

1935
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 7: than one episode to watch.

1936
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 6: Then. You know, I hate that they released one episode

1937
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 6: at a time.

1938
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 3: I hate Yeah, you're you're you're too young. You're not

1939
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 3: used to the time when we had to wait week

1940
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 3: after week after week after week for everything I did.

1941
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 7: You know, what I specifically remember was like season nine

1942
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 7: and ten of Friends, where I had to wait like

1943
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:45,440
Speaker 7: on Thursdays to watch the episode. That is like my earliest,

1944
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 7: you know, recollection of having to wait and now we're spoiled.

1945
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 7: So I'm just like, just release it all, Just do it.

1946
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 2: Come on, It could be worse. I was raised on

1947
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 2: black and white TV, so let's yeah. No, I actually

1948
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: had to get up and change the channel on the TV.

1949
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know that.

1950
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 7: I don't remember a lot of that, No, but I

1951
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 7: remember what the TVs looked like with those dials, Like,

1952
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 7: I do remember what they look like.

1953
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 6: But I don't think I experienced that myself.

1954
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 7: Well, the Chiefs have taken the lead over the Saints

1955
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 7: in this week one preseason that does wrap up today.

1956
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 7: They are up twenty one to seventeen. Early in the

1957
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 7: fourth quarter, Eagles linebacker Sean Bradley announced on social media

1958
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 7: that he's going to miss the remainder of the season

1959
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 7: after tearing an achilles and yesterday's preseason opener against the

1960
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 7: Baltimore Ravens.

1961
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 6: He announced it himself on social media.

1962
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 7: In Major League Baseball, the Red Sox are trying to

1963
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 7: stay alive and make it to the postseason.

1964
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 6: They end up beating the Tiger six to three.

1965
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 7: Adam Devall had a three run homer and four RBIs

1966
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:43,839
Speaker 7: in the victory.

1967
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 6: And I'm going to say this to everybody.

1968
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 7: Miguel Cabrera is probably you know, it's his farewell tour.

1969
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 6: If you have a chance to see him, you gotta go.

1970
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 7: So Fenway in his final probably at bat at Fenway,

1971
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 7: everybody got up, gave him a standing ovation as he deserves.

1972
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 7: So mcala, Cabrera, Derek definitely on his farewell tour right now.

1973
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 7: In Major League Baseball, though, the A's holding onto their

1974
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 7: lead over the Nationals five to one, top of the seventh,

1975
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 7: Twins still blanking the Phillies in Philadelphia two zero, bottom

1976
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 7: of the seventh. The Reds and the Pirates in game

1977
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 7: one of their double header, Cincinnati up two to one

1978
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 7: bottom of the seventh as well. The Blue Jays have

1979
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 7: added a couple more runs. They're beating the Cubs eight

1980
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 7: to two. They're about to start the bottom of the

1981
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 7: sixth inning. The Guardians also can't stop scoring. Every time

1982
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 7: I look up, they've scored another one. They're blanking, not blanking.

1983
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 7: They're beating the Rays nine to one, almost top of

1984
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 7: the sixth inning. The Yankees also keep scoring against the

1985
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 7: Marlins seven to one, bottom of the six, Angels holding

1986
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 7: onto that one run lead over the Astros in Houston

1987
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 7: one zero bottom of the fifth, the Brewers still beating

1988
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 7: the White Sox two zero, top of the six, and

1989
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 7: the FedEx Saint Judeo Championship has been suspended. The play

1990
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 7: has been suspended because of inclement. Whether they should be

1991
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 7: starting up again in about two hours is the latest.

1992
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Hi monsei, thank you very much.

1993
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1997
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Speaker 2: Progressive dot com. You're talking about Miguel Cabrera. I think

1998
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 2: about a guy like Miguel Cabrera where he is absent

1999
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 2: of any suspicion of peds. Here, Jason is the fact

2000
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 2: that he's had a downward trajectory in his career, which

2001
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 2: is what he used to be. Like you watched a

2002
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: Willie Mays or a Hank Aaron and they hang on

2003
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 2: for you know, three or four years at the back

2004
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 2: end of the career and the numbers are unrecognizable to

2005
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 2: their heyday. That's Miguel Cabrera. I love the guy. I

2006
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,839
Speaker 2: think he will go down as one of the most

2007
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 2: unsung great players in Major League Baseball history.

2008
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 3: I don't disagree. I mean, he's definitely a very old

2009
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 3: school of mentality, and he's a guy that's just been

2010
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 3: consistent of just being worth your time to see as

2011
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 3: a fan of baseball or just someone that covers sports.

2012
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 3: It's just there's not a whole lot of guys that

2013
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 3: feel made like him anymore. And You're right, the fact

2014
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 3: that there's not a bunch of cloud a suspicion around

2015
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 3: him makes what he's done even that much more remarkable.

2016
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 3: And a lot of times with these kind of farewell

2017
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 3: tour deals, I don't usually care that much because I

2018
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 3: kind of understand. I know it's hard to walk away.

2019
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 3: But if I'm a fan that would then tell me

2020
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 3: exactly what Monci just said, Like, yeah, I'd go see

2021
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 3: him if he came close by, because that's somebody I

2022
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 3: wanted to see. I saw Tom Brady in the last

2023
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 3: couple of years. That's the first time I got to

2024
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 3: see Tom Brady in person. But I'm glad someday I'm

2025
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 3: going to be able to tell my daughter, Yeah, I

2026
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 3: saw Tom Brady play football like in person, the best,

2027
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 3: the best that's ever done it, and I think there

2028
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 3: is something to be said for that. That's one of

2029
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 3: the reasons why even in terrible NBA markets where you

2030
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 3: can usually get tickets for four to six dollars, when

2031
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 3: Lebron comes, it's one hundred and fifty, because it's important

2032
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 3: to be able to see and be able to look

2033
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 3: back to so many we don't have paper tickets anymore, Steve,

2034
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 3: and I hate that because I've going back and I

2035
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 3: just cleaned out my parents' house as we moved them,

2036
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 3: and I was getting rid of a lot of things

2037
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 3: from my child and I found a lot of paper

2038
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 3: tickets from a lot of events that meant a lot

2039
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 3: to me. That are still things that cherished memories and

2040
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 3: those are keepsakes. And now it's just kind of I

2041
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 3: guess you'd just go there with a smartphone to make

2042
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 3: sure you take enough photos and that becomes the memento.

2043
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 3: But if I get the chance to see Lebron, I

2044
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 3: want to go see Lebron. I didn't. I haven't yet.

2045
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 3: I may not get to as a matter of fact,

2046
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 3: but I do think that there are bucket list items

2047
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 3: that when you have the opportunity to do it. I'm

2048
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 3: glad sometimes that these athletes have let you know, yeah,

2049
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,600
Speaker 3: you know, this is kind of the last hurrah, but

2050
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 3: it does give you the opportunity to check that off

2051
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 3: your list.

2052
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm one hundred percent with you on this, by

2053
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,799
Speaker 2: the way. The one thing, and I don't know why

2054
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 2: I started doing this from the get go. I have

2055
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 2: all my credentials.

2056
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 3: I have a lot of them.

2057
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 2: I have them all season credentials, gain credentials dating back

2058
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: to my days at UCLA. I went through a lot

2059
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 2: of these. I had them in sacks, and then I

2060
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 2: went through with one of my sons to you know,

2061
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 2: separate him by sports and everything else. And boy, you

2062
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 2: talk about trips to memory Lane. Some good stuff there,

2063
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 2: all right. So I watch episode one of Hard Knocks,

2064
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 2: and I was stunned because remember the idea was they

2065
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 2: couldn't find a team that was agreeing to it. There

2066
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 2: were only four teams under the rules they have that

2067
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 2: were even eligible, and the most obvious team was the Jets, right,

2068
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 2: And it appeared that Aaron Rodgers won and no part

2069
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 2: of it, no part of it. So I sit down

2070
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:43,919
Speaker 2: for episode one and the entire episode is Aaron Rodgers.

2071
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 2: I mean there's a scene where Leve Schreiber, you know,

2072
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 2: the actor who does the voice work on Hard Knocks,

2073
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 2: shows up at Jets camp like he's never done this before,

2074
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers is all over him like he's a

2075
01:49:56,479 --> 01:50:00,080
Speaker 2: huge fan, calls him the voice of God and and

2076
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 2: he's and then he goes over to the Nathaniel Hackett.

2077
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 2: He goes, you got to go say hi to him.

2078
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:09,839
Speaker 2: The whole episode is Aaron Rodgers. Like he is literally

2079
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 2: demanding the camera beyond him the entire time, the whole show,

2080
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the hell is this? And so

2081
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this whole dynamic out of Aaron

2082
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 2: Rodgers in a Jets uniform, Like immediately upon signing with

2083
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 2: the Jets, He's at every major New York sporting event.

2084
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 2: He's everywhere. He talks openly while that Super Bowl three

2085
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 2: trophy is looking really lonely, and I'm watching this different guy.

2086
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 2: I'll be kind on Aaron Rodgers. He's different. He marches

2087
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,600
Speaker 2: to a different beat, and I'm thinking, like, what is

2088
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 2: his motivation here? Like this is the guy who emerged

2089
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 2: from his panic room, if you want to call it

2090
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:57,600
Speaker 2: that saying that he was ninety percent certain that he

2091
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 2: was going to retire, but timber, the cent of him,

2092
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 2: said he was going to come back and it was

2093
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 2: going to.

2094
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 3: Be as a Jet.

2095
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 2: Now he's everywhere, He's promoting self promoting, promoting the Jets,

2096
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 2: promoting New York, everything else, And I'm like, what is

2097
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 2: what is going through his mind right now? So let

2098
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 2: me ask you this. Let's say we get to week

2099
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 2: four of the NFL. We're four weeks in and the

2100
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 2: AFC East standings have the Bills at four and oho,

2101
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are three and one, the Pats are at

2102
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 2: two and two, and the Jets are one and three.

2103
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 2: How quickly do you think we're going to see Aaron

2104
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 2: Rodgers meltdown that things are not the way I need

2105
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 2: him to be here with the Jets, because I personally

2106
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 2: think it's going to come sooner rather than later. If if,

2107
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,639
Speaker 2: and there's a very real possibility this could happen, they

2108
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: don't get off to the kind of start that Aaron

2109
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 2: Rodgers envisions.

2110
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 3: Credit to Aaron Rodgers for doing and saying the right

2111
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 3: things over the last couple of months and politically being

2112
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 3: very stavvy. I think that the way you have to

2113
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 3: always look at anything involving Aaron Rodgers is through the

2114
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 3: prism of what he cares about, which is him. It's

2115
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 3: always him. The way that he is acting towards the

2116
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 3: Jets is not so veiled a shot at the Packers,

2117
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 3: like yeah, it was you, not me. It's almost like

2118
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 3: this is a guy that you wanted, but I hated you.

2119
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 3: It's almost spiteful. It feels almost spiteful. But he's doing

2120
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,839
Speaker 3: he's saying all the right things. Their first four games

2121
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 3: Bill's Cowboys Patriots, Chiefs not the easiest four games to

2122
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 3: start your schedule by any story of the imagination.

2123
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: And that's a road game against the Cowboys one in

2124
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 2: three is very real possibility.

2125
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 3: It is, It definitely is. I don't know how fast

2126
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 3: that it happens, but I do know that Aaron Rodgers

2127
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 3: saying he wanted no part of Hard Knocks is It's

2128
01:52:55,680 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 3: about as believable on the surface as Harry and Megan

2129
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 3: Markle saying that they're tired of not being able to

2130
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 3: live out of the public eye, but then having multiple

2131
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 3: podcasts and Harry releasing the book and Megan Markle probably

2132
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 3: being married to him specifically because of who he is

2133
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 3: and how much camera time it was going to present

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Speaker 3: for her. It's just like, I don't care what you say,

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01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 3: I care what you do. Aaron Rodgers found the camera.

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01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 3: The camera loves Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers. I mean,

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 3: it would be hard for me not to suggest he's

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01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 3: a narcissist. Right. Most pro quarterbacks have heard so many

2139
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 3: good things about themselves. There's so much pressure on them,

2140
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 3: so many cameras on them all the time, it's hard

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01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 3: for them not to be kind of self involved in

2142
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 3: narcissistic Me. I feel like, yeah, I don't want any

2143
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 3: part of hard knocks, but if you're here, you might

2144
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 3: as well focus on me the entire time. So I'm

2145
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 3: gonna make myself as interesting and as marketable as possible.

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01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 3: I just the thing with Aaron Rodgers, as always, the

2147
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 3: way to determine what's gonna happen is what benefits Aaron

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 3: Rodgers the most, and that generally, I'd say eighty five

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01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 3: percent of the time, that's going to be exactly what happens.

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Speaker 2: Well, if they start one in three and again home

2151
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 2: games against the Bills and the Chiefs are very losable games,

2152
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 2: both in prime time. Hope they get a win at

2153
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 2: home against the Pass But if they're one in three

2154
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 2: and they go to play your Broncos in Denver in

2155
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 2: week five and lose that game because the week after

2156
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 2: that they get to host the Eagles. Yeah, and then

2157
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 2: they have a bye week. I mean, potentially, this could

2158
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 2: be a really rough start. Imagine if they were two

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01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 2: and four or one in five during the bye week

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01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 2: in New York, the spotlight on Aaron Rodgers. Hello. And

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01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: by the way, their first game out of the bye

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01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 2: at the Giants.

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01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unreal.

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01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:03,919
Speaker 2: I mean, the potential there for or a disaster is looming.

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Speaker 2: And but this is why you know, this is why

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01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 2: you know I do TV for the last twenty five years,

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01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 2: and we'll just have that one segment or it's one

2168
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 2: accident after another, you know, the whole segment is about

2169
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 2: death and accidents and everything else. People people watch, they

2170
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 2: want to see that. So, by the way, there's another

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 2: program on TV featuring a very well known sports figure,

2172
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel. Something we learned from this that isn't particularly good.

2173
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 2: We'll tell you why. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin,

2174
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, Fox Sports Sunday live from the tire rack

2175
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. So, Jmartin, have you had a chance

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01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 2: to see the Johnny Manziel untold, M.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something else. Yeah, it's something else, and it's

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01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 3: kind of sad.

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01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 2: I thought the exact same thing.

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01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to be spoiler alert on this whole thing,

2182
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 2: but usually when you have a story like this, you know,

2183
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 2: you tell all and it's it's almost it's a self

2184
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 2: produced piece. I mean, Manziel wanted it out there. In fact,

2185
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 2: he just posted something he said on his Twitter account,

2186
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 2: glad I could tell my story and be able to

2187
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 2: put a chapter of my life behind me. Very thankful

2188
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 2: for all the support over the last week. It truly

2189
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 2: means a lot. But usually when you have rags to

2190
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 2: riches and then riches to rag story, it usually ends

2191
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 2: on a high note. This does not like the end

2192
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 2: of this is like okay, like it's not going great

2193
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 2: for Johnny Manziel at all.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Someone also pointed out here saying, I'm watching Johnny Manziel untold,

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01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm confused by something. Manziel is on Netflix with his

2197
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 2: best friend talking about all the illegal stuff they were doing.

2198
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 2: What's the difference between the stuff he's doing and keeping

2199
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 2: his heisman and Reggie Bush getting stripped for his And

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01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 2: then Manziel responded by saying, I would like to see

2201
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 2: nothing better than Reggie get his heisman back. I mean,

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01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 2: the details of everything that he was involved with after

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01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 2: winning the Heisman. I mean it is so over the top.

2204
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 2: I mean, what was your general thought here when you

2205
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: watch this, because I will say this about Manzel when

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01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 2: I watched him, I will say this today, and I've

2207
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:44,200
Speaker 2: been watching college football for a long time. He is

2208
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 2: one of the five most exciting players ever. I'm talking

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01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 2: about can't keep your eyes on anyone other than him

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01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 2: when he's on the field. That's how dynamic he was

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01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 2: at Texas A and M. And by the way, I

2212
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 2: believe I was the old I was the first national

2213
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: sports radio guy to utter his name on the air,

2214
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 2: was like four weeks into his freshman season. I do

2215
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 2: a Heisman countdown because I've had a Heisman vote for

2216
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 2: all these years, and I said, and my current number

2217
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 2: one is Johnny Manzell. It's not Manziel, It's not Manziel,

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01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 2: It's Manzell. Everyone's like, who the hell is Johnny manzie Go.

2219
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 2: He's the quarterback at A and M. He's a freshman

2220
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 2: and he is unreal. But what was your takeaway from

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01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 2: what we saw there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think I think we could have

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01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 3: kind of written this story without watching it to some degree,

2224
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 3: because if you've read some of the things about Manziel's

2225
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 3: family and everything that happened even while he was in college,

2226
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 3: this guy was enabled by everyone around him. He was

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01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 3: told so many things about himself, and I think he

2228
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 3: got used to a universe where he thought it was

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01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 3: always going to be this way. He thought it was

2230
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 3: always going to come. He thought that he could just

2231
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 3: draw it up in the dirt, so to speak, even

2232
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 3: in the NFL, he could do what he had done

2233
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 3: throughout some of his time at A and M. But

2234
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 3: that he was just that special, that gifted, that unique,

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01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 3: that one in a million, and it came crashing down.

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01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 3: And we had Bernie Frado on last nighte Bernie made

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01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 3: kind of a similar point, and he suggested, you know,

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01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 3: watching the documentary, this is a guy who didn't even

2239
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 3: look at the playbook, right, m hm. This is the

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Speaker 3: guy who had it on his iPad and never even

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01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 3: looked at it. What was at zero point zero hours yeah,

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01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 3: that they said in the documentary. He just didn't even

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01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 3: he didn't prepare, and then by the time he realized

2244
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 3: he had to, he was so far behind that it

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01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 3: didn't even matter. And what you're saying about him as

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01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 3: a college player could not be more true. You could

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01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 3: not take your eyes off of a Manzell led A

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01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 3: and m offense. It was scintillating, scintillating, scintillating.

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Speaker 2: Oh it was. It was unbelievable. And then he talked

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01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 2: about when he joined the Browns like I don't want

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01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 2: to be here. I don't want to be here. And

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02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 2: then the things about like the wealth of his family

2253
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 2: was actually exaggerated. I mean, it really was a mind

2254
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 2: blowing documentary. But in the end it's like, Okay, now

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Speaker 2: what And there's no answer to that. No, he's got

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Speaker 2: a lot of life ahead of him, and what exactly

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02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 2: is he going to do? I just I And by

2258
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 2: the way, I also raise his name, image and likeness, right,

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02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean it was because of Manziel who generated hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars for Texas A and m hundreds

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02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. He should have gotten his just too,

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02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 2: and he took it upon himself to get it and

2263
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 2: then his world fell apart. All right, we got a

2264
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Speaker 2: lot more to come coming up here. Just keep it

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Speaker 2: of social media, no doubt, and doing what we do,

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Speaker 2: we have a lot of comments, good and bad. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, one thing I found out in the very beginning,

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Speaker 2: because I got started in this industry before there was

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Speaker 2: any of this. There was no Internet or anything else.

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Speaker 2: I remember we used to get faxes, you know, like

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Speaker 2: like we had a fax machine and people might call

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Speaker 2: in and say, hey, you're the greatest, or you suck

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Speaker 2: or whatever, you know, back and forth. And the one

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Speaker 2: the one fun thing about social media for me is

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02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 2: you think that like there are no fans maybe of

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Speaker 2: a team, and then you find that there's one, and

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Speaker 2: I have found that today a guy by the name

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Speaker 2: of Paul apparently is the one LA Charger fan. Oh yeah,

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02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:17,560
Speaker 2: he He's sent me a series of tweets saying that

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Speaker 2: the Chargers made the right decision moving to Los Angeles,

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02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 2: that any talk about them negatively is totally antiquated, and

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Speaker 2: that's great. My son, my younger son, is a huge

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02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 2: Chargers fan, like a huge.

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Speaker 3: Just two.

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Speaker 2: So there's two here, here's here's reality. So they do

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02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 2: marketing surveys in our industry all the time, because the

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02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 2: most important thing in our industry is to try to

2295
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:53,839
Speaker 2: figure out who's listening, and then you market toward the listener.

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02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:58,320
Speaker 2: And so in the LA market, as far as football

2297
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 2: is concerned, the latest and this is from people that

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02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 2: work directly in the industry, and this is what their

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02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 2: job is to do to figure out, like who should

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Speaker 2: we be talking more about the Rams or the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: And the answer is, in the LA market, the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders, the interest fans that identify themselves as NFL

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02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 2: fans in the city of Los Angeles. When asked who

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Speaker 2: is the team that you follow most, it's not even close.

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02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:42,919
Speaker 2: It is still the Raiders over the Rams and Chargers,

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02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:48,080
Speaker 2: in fact, Rams Chargers combined. I work for an LA

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Speaker 2: TV station and we are carrying the game that is

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Speaker 2: just kicking off right now between the Raiders and the

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. What were your thoughts when the Raiders

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Speaker 2: made the move to Las Vegas. Did you ever think

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Speaker 2: you would see the day that the NFL would have

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Speaker 2: a team in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: No, but I mean where sports betting has gone, and

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02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 3: just being in a city like that, it ends up

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02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 3: making sense. Maybe not necessarily because it was the Raiders,

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02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:21,560
Speaker 3: but to that part of the argument. Most of the

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Speaker 3: people at Fox that I have dealt with through the years,

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Speaker 3: producers and various people that I've worked with, I think

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Speaker 3: I've known one guy that's a Rams fan. No one's

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Speaker 3: ever said anything about the Chargers. I think Eddie Garcia's

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Speaker 3: wife is a Chargers fan, but he's a Steelers fan,

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02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 3: I believe is right. And then everybody is Raiders. Danny

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02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 3: G is Raiders. Rob G is Raiders. Almost everybody was Raiders,

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Speaker 3: and I would run into him and we would have

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Speaker 3: great rivalry conversations because as a Broncos fan, obviously Broncos

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Speaker 3: Raiders was the rivalry for me. And so we had

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun, you know, smack talking each other

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02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 3: year after year and all that. But that's not really surprising.

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02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 3: I mean the Chargers. The Chargers to me, I am

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02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 3: outside of the Jordan Love situation in Green Bay. I

2331
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 3: think the Chargers might be the most interesting storyline in

2332
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 3: the NFL this year because I think they made a

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02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 3: mistake bringing their head coach back. Yes, and they gave

2334
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert the bag. He secured the bag and you

2335
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 3: know who he is. But it doesn't matter if he's

2336
02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 3: going out there with one hand tie behind his back,

2337
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 3: are handcuffed because of late games situations, common sense bag

2338
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 3: coaching calls, and things of that nature. I hope Brandon

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Speaker 3: state he proves me wrong. By the way, I don't

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02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 3: care about being right. I want to see the best

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Speaker 3: version of football I can see. I also believe, though,

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Speaker 3: in the Peter principle, and sometimes you step one degree

2343
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:48,760
Speaker 3: higher than you should be. You know this, Steve. There's

2344
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,920
Speaker 3: some guys that are awesome coordinators who are terrible head

2345
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 3: coaches that just can't get that job done. There's some

2346
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 3: people that are great governors but can't actually rise to

2347
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,839
Speaker 3: the level of president or can't actually do the Senate

2348
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 3: roll or whatever it might be. There's somebody in your

2349
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:06,880
Speaker 3: company right now that probably has a job that is

2350
02:06:06,920 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 3: one step higher than they should have, and eventually that

2351
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 3: gets figured out. And that's kind of where I am

2352
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 3: on Staley is I kind of sense that that's the

2353
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 3: case with him. But the fact that the Raiders are

2354
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:21,080
Speaker 3: in Vegas, I felt like maybe they would have gotten

2355
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 3: a different franchise than the Raiders just because there were

2356
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 3: a lot of Raiders fans in LA, because I talked

2357
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 3: to him on a daily basis.

2358
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, think about this for a second. If you

2359
02:06:36,080 --> 02:06:40,080
Speaker 2: did not have Justin Herbert as your quarterback, Oh my goodness,

2360
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 2: how many games would this team win? His you know,

2361
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 2: going forward on fourth down. I mean that debacle against

2362
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 2: the Raiders a couple of years ago, and then his

2363
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:54,240
Speaker 2: constant defensive Like this is one of those guys that

2364
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:58,160
Speaker 2: looks at you cross eyed if you question any one

2365
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:01,480
Speaker 2: of his decisions. All I know is that he was

2366
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:04,760
Speaker 2: the architect of one of the greatest playoff collapses in history.

2367
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 2: Like it's almost impossible to lose an NFL game when

2368
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:15,560
Speaker 2: you're up four touchdowns. It's almost impossible. Like everything has

2369
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:18,240
Speaker 2: to go right for the other teams, and everything has

2370
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 2: to go wrong for you, and it did. And so

2371
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:25,960
Speaker 2: Dug Peterson goes in that locker room changes the entire

2372
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 2: dynamic of that game. And he had no answers, none

2373
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 2: other than please Justin Herbert save me. It didn't happen.

2374
02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:43,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with him more. I believe the Chargers.

2375
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:46,560
Speaker 2: You have obviously one of the most gifted quarterbacks in

2376
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 2: the league. There's no denying the talent of Justin Herbert.

2377
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:53,520
Speaker 2: But we also know that Brandon Staley was hired on

2378
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:57,400
Speaker 2: the strength of his resume as the defensive coordinator of

2379
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 2: the Rams when he had Aaron Donald the peak of

2380
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 2: his power, and the Chargers defense is bad, bad, so

2381
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 2: that was supposed to be what he was going to

2382
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 2: resurrect for this team. So I'm with you on the Chargers,

2383
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 2: and look for the one Charger fan that keeps sending

2384
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 2: me tweets. I'm with you, man, I am I say

2385
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 2: this to my son. I'm happy that you haven't jumped

2386
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 2: off what you love, no matter how bad the situation,

2387
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:29,080
Speaker 2: no matter how inept the ownership of this organization is,

2388
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 2: or the coach or the general manager or anything else.

2389
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 2: They can't help themselves, but they do have a great

2390
02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 2: quarterback to at least keep your head barely above water. Yeah,

2391
02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm with you, man, I think this.

2392
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2393
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 3: The staly thing is what's gonna be interesting. Is is

2394
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:48,880
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore going to fix some of this? Is he

2395
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 3: going to be the common sense guy? It's like Brandon,

2396
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Yeah, we need to do this,

2397
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:55,640
Speaker 3: And maybe that's going to be what he needs. Maybe

2398
02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 3: he needs somebody to check him because you talked about

2399
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 3: the cross Eide looked at him in press conferences when

2400
02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 3: you challenge him. That's because for some reason, he has

2401
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 3: a shrine to Excel spreadsheets. He has a shrine in

2402
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 3: his office or in his home somewhere where he just

2403
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 3: bows down to the almighty spreadsheet, the almighty analytics numbers,

2404
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 3: and he's baffled when all of that stuff doesn't necessarily

2405
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 3: work on the field. And the challenge is, but wait,

2406
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 3: Excel told me there was an eighty one percent chance

2407
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 3: of this happening. Yeah, but there's also a nineteen percent

2408
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 3: chance of it not happening. And you have to actually

2409
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:36,200
Speaker 3: look at what's happening on the field. You can't just

2410
02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 3: bury your head in a book and expect to understand

2411
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:41,200
Speaker 3: how the world works. You have to go live and read.

2412
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,720
Speaker 3: You have to do both of these two things. And

2413
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:47,080
Speaker 3: I think that he leans so heavily on one side

2414
02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 3: to the neglect of the other. There's got to be

2415
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 3: some better balance of what you have on a spreadsheet,

2416
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 3: what you have laminated, what you have in a notebook

2417
02:09:58,360 --> 02:10:03,000
Speaker 3: or an iPad, and actual eye test experience on the field.

2418
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 3: That's what happen is in a situation.

2419
02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 2: I can have anybody read a sheet. Absolutely, I don't

2420
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 2: need a head coach. If all you're going to do

2421
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 2: is go by the percentages on a sheet, that is

2422
02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 2: not coaching. I have the same problem with baseball managers.

2423
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 2: You know well it said, you know this was a

2424
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 2: good no. No, no, no, no no. This is why

2425
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:28,000
Speaker 2: I love like the Bruce Boucheese of the world. I

2426
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 2: know Boach since his Padre days. Boach is a guy.

2427
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 2: Hey show me the numbers. I'm interested in the numbers

2428
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:38,360
Speaker 2: and they will be part of the equation in my

2429
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 2: decision making. But if you can't get a feel for

2430
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:44,879
Speaker 2: a game. I took my boys to their first SOFI

2431
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:48,000
Speaker 2: game two years ago Staley's first year. They're playing the

2432
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs at home. Okay, they're playing the Chiefs and they

2433
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 2: had the ball the Chargers. We are actually ends on

2434
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 2: seeds second level and we're watching this front row seed

2435
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:02,680
Speaker 2: type situation. They just butchered this. They had I pull

2436
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 2: opportunities to kick a field goal and get points on

2437
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 2: the board. Instead they kept going for it, ended up

2438
02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:12,000
Speaker 2: with no points and ended up losing the game in

2439
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 2: over time. And then asked about it after the game,

2440
02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:20,600
Speaker 2: He's like, wow, you know we made the right move.

2441
02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 2: Now you did, and you made the wrong move. It

2442
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 2: wasn't working.

2443
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, look I'm gonna I want you to go

2444
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 3: with me on this. I haven't done this throughout the

2445
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 3: course of the show, but I did mention earlier, and

2446
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 3: a lot of times I go to this analogy because

2447
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:37,440
Speaker 3: it generally works. I worked in pro wrestling for a

2448
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:40,360
Speaker 3: very long time, wrote about it for even longer, have

2449
02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 3: hosted multiple radio shows through the years on it. It's

2450
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:45,080
Speaker 3: been a passion of mine and something that's helped me

2451
02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:47,480
Speaker 3: make a living for a long time. And there is

2452
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 3: something to the way that it used to be done

2453
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 3: where the guys that were going to perform in the

2454
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 3: ring did not sit in the back and plan out

2455
02:11:56,240 --> 02:11:59,040
Speaker 3: everything that was going to happen. You knew a bit

2456
02:11:59,080 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 3: of a skeleton, but you got out there and you

2457
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:04,240
Speaker 3: worked on feel. You worked on what the crowd was

2458
02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 3: offering you. And I remember being in locker rooms around

2459
02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 3: the turn of the century and having some of the

2460
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 3: older guys that were there basically just laugh off what

2461
02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 3: some of the new crop was doing because they were

2462
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 3: sitting in the back and literally going through the match

2463
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 3: in front of us in the locker room, like you're

2464
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:21,320
Speaker 3: gonna do this, and you're gonna do this, and you're

2465
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 3: gonna do this, You're gonna do this. And I remember

2466
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:25,360
Speaker 3: a legend I won't name him, but I remember a

2467
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:29,040
Speaker 3: legend walking up to one of those guys and saying, Hey, guys,

2468
02:12:29,040 --> 02:12:31,040
Speaker 3: I got a question for you. What happens if the

2469
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:34,560
Speaker 3: crowd's not buying that bleep? What happens if they don't

2470
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 3: respond to all that you're setting up? And they just

2471
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 3: it was like deer in headlights. No one had ever

2472
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 3: set it to him that way. It's like, no, you

2473
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:47,360
Speaker 3: have to work on what's actually happening just because you

2474
02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:50,080
Speaker 3: think something's gonna happen because it's in front of you,

2475
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 3: or because you have it scripted out. That's not how

2476
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:56,880
Speaker 3: it works. The actual job is being able to bring

2477
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 3: people off their seats and take them on a roller

2478
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,840
Speaker 3: coaster ride of ems to tell a story in the

2479
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 3: ring that makes sense. It's not to go through seventy

2480
02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:09,800
Speaker 3: five athletic moves that don't connect at all to the audience,

2481
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 3: and don't take the grandmother that's on the front row

2482
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:15,280
Speaker 3: that used to hit this legend with a loaded pocketbook

2483
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:19,520
Speaker 3: whenever he came by. It's just sitting there watching this

2484
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 3: stuff happen. And to me, it's similar to this analytics deal.

2485
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm not anti analytics, I am anti no balance when

2486
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:30,440
Speaker 3: it comes to your analytics. Your analytics, you need an

2487
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 3: analytics department, but you also need a I have eyes department,

2488
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 3: and I understand football department, and I think that's what

2489
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:41,120
Speaker 3: the Chargers have been lacking in this daily regime over

2490
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 3: the past two seasons.

2491
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:49,160
Speaker 2: Every time I hear someone trying to say it's not

2492
02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:55,200
Speaker 2: on the coach, then my retort has always sys, then

2493
02:13:55,240 --> 02:14:00,360
Speaker 2: why is he there? What is the purpose of coach?

2494
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:03,960
Speaker 2: If you say, well, the coach didn't fumble or this,

2495
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 2: what exactly is he there to do? The answer is

2496
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:13,000
Speaker 2: he is there. The only stat a coach has is

2497
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 2: wins and losses. That's their only stat, and so their

2498
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:24,440
Speaker 2: job is to win, however they go about it. So

2499
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:27,480
Speaker 2: the idea of having some kind of built in excuse

2500
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:31,000
Speaker 2: saying while the numbers say it's gonna work far more

2501
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:33,839
Speaker 2: times than it's going to fail, and it just failed,

2502
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:37,840
Speaker 2: that's not on me. And then I'm like, then why

2503
02:14:37,880 --> 02:14:42,680
Speaker 2: are you here? Then? What purpose do you serve?

2504
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 3: Well? Why? I think the biggest thing is do you

2505
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 3: ask one of those people, especially if you know that

2506
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:49,760
Speaker 3: that coach is so poor, You're like, hey, would you

2507
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:52,040
Speaker 3: trade him for Bill Belichick like back in the day,

2508
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:54,960
Speaker 3: or would you trade him for Nick Saban in college football?

2509
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:56,760
Speaker 3: And if they say yes, it's like, oh, it's about

2510
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:58,760
Speaker 3: the coach, That's all you have to say. At that point.

2511
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:01,600
Speaker 3: It's like, because you recognize, if we'd recognize that there

2512
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:05,800
Speaker 3: are coaches that are really good, that also has an

2513
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:09,080
Speaker 3: alternate reality where it also means that there are coaches

2514
02:15:09,080 --> 02:15:13,520
Speaker 3: that are really bad and it is their fault. Sometimes, yes,

2515
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:16,040
Speaker 3: they can't be the ones calling the play, or they

2516
02:15:16,040 --> 02:15:18,200
Speaker 3: can't be the ones on the field executing the plays,

2517
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:22,800
Speaker 3: and to some degree they are handicapped by that, but

2518
02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:25,240
Speaker 3: they also have to understand how to put their guys

2519
02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:29,200
Speaker 3: in the best situation to win and not take victories

2520
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:32,320
Speaker 3: away from them, and that happens far too often, not

2521
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:34,760
Speaker 3: just with the Chargers, but across sports.

2522
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:38,320
Speaker 2: Is it true one time and a match between a

2523
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:41,920
Speaker 2: HAULK Cogan and the Ultimate Warrior that the Warrior is

2524
02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:45,000
Speaker 2: basically saying I'm pretty much done during the match, and

2525
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:48,520
Speaker 2: Hogan said, no, no, no, no, we got seventy thousand people here.

2526
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:50,440
Speaker 2: You got a lot more in you, man.

2527
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:53,560
Speaker 3: You got a lot more in you. I don't know

2528
02:15:53,600 --> 02:15:56,240
Speaker 3: if that specific story is true, the fact that the

2529
02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:58,720
Speaker 3: Ultimate Warrior was blown up in a match at that

2530
02:15:58,760 --> 02:16:01,520
Speaker 3: point in time, blown up being out gas. Yeah, that's

2531
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:04,720
Speaker 3: certainly true. There's no question that's true. That's true of

2532
02:16:04,760 --> 02:16:07,760
Speaker 3: a lot of guys through the years. And sometimes you

2533
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:11,320
Speaker 3: do have to be dragged and sometimes you almost pass out,

2534
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:13,640
Speaker 3: and you're sort of at the mercy of both your

2535
02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 3: instincts and the person your dance partner in the ring

2536
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:18,080
Speaker 3: to help you tell that story and get you out

2537
02:16:18,120 --> 02:16:20,760
Speaker 3: of there. The problem for the Warrior was no one

2538
02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:24,280
Speaker 3: liked the Warrior, especially at that point in time. So

2539
02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:26,400
Speaker 3: if Hogan thought that he could make him look bad

2540
02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:28,480
Speaker 3: in that moment. Yeah, man, we got to go ten

2541
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 3: more minutes because he knows that the Warrior is going

2542
02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:32,960
Speaker 3: to be exposed. And the Warrior at that time was

2543
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:36,320
Speaker 3: his biggest challenger for being the top dog in the

2544
02:16:36,360 --> 02:16:38,280
Speaker 3: eyes of the fans. And I don't know if you

2545
02:16:38,320 --> 02:16:41,080
Speaker 3: knew this or not, but holcogin pretty big ego. Oh yeah,

2546
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:42,959
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of himself. I don't know if

2547
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:45,400
Speaker 3: you've known that about Hogan through the years. So if

2548
02:16:45,440 --> 02:16:48,120
Speaker 3: he got the opportunity to kind of maybe push the

2549
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:52,960
Speaker 3: Warrior's popularity down a bit by exposing his limitations inside

2550
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:58,120
Speaker 3: the ring, I would not put it past Terry to

2551
02:16:58,240 --> 02:16:59,480
Speaker 3: have done that. I'll just say.

2552
02:16:59,320 --> 02:17:04,039
Speaker 2: That, wow wow, wow, Yeah, I remember that. I remember

2553
02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:07,480
Speaker 2: that story. For someone like yourself, you would know the answer,

2554
02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:09,880
Speaker 2: and I like the answer, all right. Coming up on

2555
02:17:09,920 --> 02:17:12,959
Speaker 2: the other side, this game coming up or just kicking

2556
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 2: off right now between the forty nine Ers and the Raiders.

2557
02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:21,560
Speaker 2: Interesting storylines on both of these teams. We'll explain why

2558
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve Harbin, Jason Martin, Fox

2559
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are live from the tai Iraq Dot

2560
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:33,240
Speaker 2: Com Studios. Now, Jason, of course down there in Nashville,

2561
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:40,199
Speaker 2: and apparently some thunderstorms have hit. Yesterday we had Jeff

2562
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:43,280
Speaker 2: Schwartz on from the Carolinas and he said the humidity

2563
02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 2: was unbearable. Now, Chris, all of a sudden, we have

2564
02:17:49,640 --> 02:17:52,560
Speaker 2: a weather predicament with Jmark.

2565
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:56,359
Speaker 8: Happens this time of year. I lived five years in Savannah, Georgia,

2566
02:17:56,560 --> 02:17:59,600
Speaker 8: and I made the mistake of moving one time in

2567
02:17:59,680 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 8: July down there. Yeah, I feel I feel Schwartz on

2568
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:06,000
Speaker 8: the uh on the heat, on the humidity for sure.

2569
02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I know people don't want to hear this

2570
02:18:09,600 --> 02:18:13,680
Speaker 2: in other parts of the country. So there there are

2571
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:18,040
Speaker 2: certain advantages from a weather standpoint of living in southern California.

2572
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:26,280
Speaker 2: I equate it to this almost everywhere on the planet.

2573
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 2: Your first thought going into the day is what is

2574
02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:35,120
Speaker 2: the weather? Right? I mean it's like how hot is

2575
02:18:35,120 --> 02:18:37,039
Speaker 2: it going to be? How cold is it going to be?

2576
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:40,760
Speaker 2: How human is it going to be? Weather is a

2577
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:46,840
Speaker 2: factor for most people on this planet. It is not

2578
02:18:47,080 --> 02:18:51,360
Speaker 2: a factor for people in Southern California. Yeah, it just not.

2579
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:54,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's I mean, that's that's why there's

2580
02:18:54,920 --> 02:18:58,160
Speaker 2: there's shock when there's any rain or or any kind

2581
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:02,800
Speaker 2: of difference in our weather because the rest of the

2582
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:06,439
Speaker 2: world is accustomed to waking up with that thought immediately.

2583
02:19:06,879 --> 02:19:09,320
Speaker 8: I've lived in places with tornadoes, I've lived in places

2584
02:19:09,320 --> 02:19:11,640
Speaker 8: with hurricanes out here. I know it's you know, you

2585
02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:14,800
Speaker 8: got to worry about earthquakes, but there's no warning for

2586
02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:16,120
Speaker 8: that that's not tied to the weather.

2587
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:17,000
Speaker 6: I want to.

2588
02:19:16,920 --> 02:19:21,000
Speaker 2: Downplay the earthquakes situation. But when I see you remember

2589
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:23,680
Speaker 2: the hurricane that ripped through Tuscaloosa.

2590
02:19:23,959 --> 02:19:26,720
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, yes, yes, I do. I think I was

2591
02:19:26,720 --> 02:19:29,200
Speaker 8: in Savannah. What year was that, I might have been

2592
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:29,680
Speaker 8: still been.

2593
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:32,320
Speaker 2: Like ten years ago something like that.

2594
02:19:32,520 --> 02:19:34,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was in Savannah, and I think we got

2595
02:19:34,280 --> 02:19:35,720
Speaker 8: some of the storm layover from it.

2596
02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:40,920
Speaker 2: And I see the path of destruction where you have

2597
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:44,480
Speaker 2: blocks miles leveled.

2598
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,600
Speaker 8: And what's going on in Maui right now is just you.

2599
02:19:47,560 --> 02:19:52,640
Speaker 2: Know, terribly Already they're saying it is the deadliest wildfire

2600
02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:54,039
Speaker 2: in US history.

2601
02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:56,520
Speaker 8: There's a town I know of there that's just completely

2602
02:19:56,560 --> 02:19:57,280
Speaker 8: wiped off the map.

2603
02:19:57,320 --> 02:20:01,480
Speaker 2: There's not that left behind is gone. It's gone. So the

2604
02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:05,640
Speaker 2: very famous place you know, resort there, Mali, and it

2605
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:10,040
Speaker 2: is off it has been erased, so hopefully we'll get

2606
02:20:10,320 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 2: Jamar back because they do have a lot to talk about.

2607
02:20:14,040 --> 02:20:16,480
Speaker 2: By the way, after I'm done with the show today,

2608
02:20:16,520 --> 02:20:18,640
Speaker 2: I go to my TV gig here in La has

2609
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:21,160
Speaker 2: mentioned the fact that the Raiders rules supreme still in

2610
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:24,440
Speaker 2: the city of Los Angeles, despite two teams that actually

2611
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:28,560
Speaker 2: live here, and they're playing the forty nine Ers today

2612
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:33,320
Speaker 2: in their first preseason game. Very different dynamics one team. Well,

2613
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:36,680
Speaker 2: in some ways, let's face it, it's a transfer of

2614
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:42,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback from one of these teams, Jimmy Garoppolo, who

2615
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:45,879
Speaker 2: by the way, has the seventh highest winning percentage of

2616
02:20:45,879 --> 02:20:51,440
Speaker 2: any starting quarterback in NFL history, and now he's with

2617
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:57,760
Speaker 2: the Raiders. And there's so much to be said about

2618
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 2: the dynamic of these teams, but in both cases, it

2619
02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:05,920
Speaker 2: really starts and ends with their head coach. Kyle Shanahan

2620
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:13,080
Speaker 2: and Josh McDaniels are considered two of the most savvy

2621
02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:17,120
Speaker 2: young offensive minds of the last fifteen twenty years in

2622
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:23,200
Speaker 2: the NFL, and they have had an opportunity to be

2623
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:26,880
Speaker 2: head coaches. In the case of Josh McDaniels, it looked

2624
02:21:26,879 --> 02:21:29,720
Speaker 2: great for six games. That's why I wanted to sort

2625
02:21:29,720 --> 02:21:32,000
Speaker 2: of bring this up with j Mark because he's a

2626
02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:35,520
Speaker 2: Broncos fan and six games into his career, remember how

2627
02:21:35,560 --> 02:21:38,480
Speaker 2: that all started six and zero and he beat Belichick.

2628
02:21:39,959 --> 02:21:44,080
Speaker 2: Since then, Josh McDaniels record as a head coach is

2629
02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 2: eleven and twenty eight.

2630
02:21:47,280 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 8: That's not good, Josh McDaniels. I don't know what it

2631
02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 8: is about. Look, I think we're a few years removed

2632
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:57,600
Speaker 8: from the curses of the Belichick tree, that the Belichick

2633
02:21:57,640 --> 02:22:00,760
Speaker 8: disciples don't work out. But I guess we were getting

2634
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:03,840
Speaker 8: one last gas with Matt Patricia and Josh McDaniels. And

2635
02:22:03,920 --> 02:22:06,640
Speaker 8: it's not like he's This is a guy unlike Patricia.

2636
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 8: This isn't a guy who's jumping into a first time

2637
02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:10,960
Speaker 8: being a head coach. He was the head coach before

2638
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:15,119
Speaker 8: four the Denver Broncos. He has he's had this experience.

2639
02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:17,480
Speaker 8: He should know how this goes by now. And the

2640
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:21,600
Speaker 8: offense that's given to him in Las Vegas is nothing

2641
02:22:21,640 --> 02:22:26,440
Speaker 8: short of fantastic. But I don't know this. I want

2642
02:22:26,440 --> 02:22:28,560
Speaker 8: to ask you, Steve, like this, this doesn't This seems

2643
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:31,080
Speaker 8: like the experiment is going to get jettisoned fairly quickly

2644
02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:33,560
Speaker 8: if they can't get it going here right now. They

2645
02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:37,080
Speaker 8: can't have gone through all these quarterbacks, having DeVante Adams

2646
02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:38,600
Speaker 8: one of the best receivers out there. And I know

2647
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:42,280
Speaker 8: they have some problems with the offensive line, but for Vegas, like,

2648
02:22:42,360 --> 02:22:44,800
Speaker 8: you can't be the Raiders be in a city like

2649
02:22:44,879 --> 02:22:48,959
Speaker 8: Las Vegas that's rapidly becoming the mecca for sports and

2650
02:22:49,080 --> 02:22:51,640
Speaker 8: still be this in yet another year.

2651
02:22:52,560 --> 02:22:55,640
Speaker 2: Ralph Irvin, who worked here at Fox Sports Radio for

2652
02:22:55,720 --> 02:22:58,480
Speaker 2: quite a while, stop by my house, which was unexpected

2653
02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:01,480
Speaker 2: because he lives in Las Vegas. Now I don't know

2654
02:23:01,480 --> 02:23:03,440
Speaker 2: why he was in the La area. Oh, he told

2655
02:23:03,440 --> 02:23:06,040
Speaker 2: me I had a doctor appointment or something. So I

2656
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 2: asked him, what is going on with the Raiders in

2657
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:14,440
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Like, what's happening there? And he says, well,

2658
02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:18,720
Speaker 2: understand this. The Golden Knights are the team in Las Vegas.

2659
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:21,840
Speaker 2: They were born in Las Vegas. You know, they get

2660
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:24,920
Speaker 2: to the Stanley Cup Final their first year of existence.

2661
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:30,360
Speaker 2: They are the Vegas team, the Raiders.

2662
02:23:32,440 --> 02:23:37,360
Speaker 8: They're ls team. They are They're California's team, the Vegas's team.

2663
02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:41,640
Speaker 2: Right, it's not a local team. Their Raider die hards.

2664
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:45,120
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question about that. But they're trying

2665
02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:49,560
Speaker 2: to in some way distance themselves in their past well

2666
02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:52,640
Speaker 2: embracing their past, which is always a weird dynamic, right.

2667
02:23:52,760 --> 02:23:55,400
Speaker 2: I think what made the Golden Knights Vegas is not

2668
02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:59,240
Speaker 2: the black Hole, let's put it that way. That's that's Oakland.

2669
02:23:59,440 --> 02:24:01,600
Speaker 8: You've got an event there that people can come out

2670
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:03,640
Speaker 8: once a week and it's always and it's set up

2671
02:24:03,640 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 8: for visiting fans to kind of take over as they

2672
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:08,120
Speaker 8: make a weekend out of Vegas. But I think what

2673
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:11,360
Speaker 8: made the Golden Knights special was their appeal was primarily

2674
02:24:12,000 --> 02:24:13,840
Speaker 8: not to the people on the strip, but to the

2675
02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:17,120
Speaker 8: people who are working in Las Vegas. I know these

2676
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:20,240
Speaker 8: are the Vegas team. They are the blue collar team

2677
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,879
Speaker 8: of Vegas. I know blue collar as a Detroit sports fan.

2678
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:26,040
Speaker 8: It's a very overused word. Everyone thinks they're blue collar,

2679
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:28,600
Speaker 8: but that in that case, yes, their fans are blue collar.

2680
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:32,760
Speaker 8: It is something that appeals to the Vegas local. Whereas

2681
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:35,480
Speaker 8: I don't think the Raiders have made that impact yet

2682
02:24:35,480 --> 02:24:36,520
Speaker 8: with the Vegas local.

2683
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:40,440
Speaker 2: Just because happened. They're still Oakland, they have not had

2684
02:24:40,520 --> 02:24:44,320
Speaker 2: that impact. I'm not saying it's across the board. Obviously,

2685
02:24:44,320 --> 02:24:47,160
Speaker 2: there's some Vegas people that have latched on to the Raiders.

2686
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:50,920
Speaker 2: I mean they have the NFL, right, but they're not

2687
02:24:51,280 --> 02:24:55,800
Speaker 2: the Vegas team, not even close. And honestly, with Josh

2688
02:24:55,879 --> 02:24:59,240
Speaker 2: McDaniel's running the show, I mean when they come out

2689
02:24:59,480 --> 02:25:03,840
Speaker 2: and you know this whole Josh Jacobs fiasco, guy leads

2690
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:08,080
Speaker 2: the league in rushing And Josh McDaniel's answer to that was, well,

2691
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:12,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't really by design. We didn't plan on Josh

2692
02:25:12,280 --> 02:25:15,480
Speaker 2: Jacobs to have this kind of a season, Okay, but

2693
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:22,560
Speaker 2: he did. If you were send his franchise tag he

2694
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:26,160
Speaker 2: becomes a free agent, imagine if he then dons a

2695
02:25:26,520 --> 02:25:31,760
Speaker 2: Broncos uniform or dare say it Chiefs uniform, Like, what

2696
02:25:31,800 --> 02:25:34,400
Speaker 2: the hell is going on? All right, hopefully we'll get

2697
02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:37,200
Speaker 2: Jamart back, but first let's find out what is trending

2698
02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:43,960
Speaker 2: right now. And SOMONSI, yes, somebody again on our Twitter account,

2699
02:25:43,959 --> 02:25:46,200
Speaker 2: which I get so much more activity because you're here.

2700
02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:49,360
Speaker 6: Yes, they said you're a bad bunny, Stan.

2701
02:25:49,959 --> 02:25:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they also questioned, please stop talking about your

2702
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:56,480
Speaker 2: love for Taylor's strip and said me, it didn't even

2703
02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:59,760
Speaker 2: mention you. I'm like, I Ricky Martin, some guy named

2704
02:26:00,040 --> 02:26:05,240
Speaker 2: UIs Miguel I was bringing up sort of my sacrifice

2705
02:26:05,280 --> 02:26:09,840
Speaker 2: the idea to go to a Ricky Martin concert, Louis Miguel,

2706
02:26:09,959 --> 02:26:12,720
Speaker 2: because you were talking about the dads, yes, standing outside

2707
02:26:12,720 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 2: of SOFI because their daughters want to see me. I

2708
02:26:15,640 --> 02:26:18,320
Speaker 2: was trying to make a point here, But this is

2709
02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:19,680
Speaker 2: why I called selective. Listen.

2710
02:26:19,840 --> 02:26:21,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was about to say, I was about to say.

2711
02:26:21,800 --> 02:26:23,640
Speaker 2: Nothing that I love Ricky Martin.

2712
02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:26,720
Speaker 6: I mean maybe you do, but everybody loves Ricky Martin.

2713
02:26:26,879 --> 02:26:30,640
Speaker 2: Well, was unbelievable. It was so u talk about, it

2714
02:26:31,840 --> 02:26:35,640
Speaker 2: was so big, the women at that I was in

2715
02:26:35,680 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 2: the midst of that. It was freaking nuts.

2716
02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:41,640
Speaker 7: I one time saw j Lo and her opening act

2717
02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:42,800
Speaker 7: was Enrique Igles.

2718
02:26:42,879 --> 02:26:44,680
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, who I'm a fan of.

2719
02:26:44,959 --> 02:26:49,280
Speaker 7: But the way women were like, legit melting, yes over.

2720
02:26:49,720 --> 02:26:53,480
Speaker 7: I was like, wow, because I like him, yeah, but

2721
02:26:53,920 --> 02:26:54,960
Speaker 7: literally melting.

2722
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:57,320
Speaker 6: As he was on stage, I.

2723
02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:04,039
Speaker 2: Saw women move their by I don't want to get

2724
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:08,080
Speaker 2: too much because he cannot not move. My mouth was

2725
02:27:08,120 --> 02:27:11,680
Speaker 2: a gabe. As a guy, I was just like, I'm.

2726
02:27:11,560 --> 02:27:15,200
Speaker 7: Sure, but you have any any Ricky Martin song, you

2727
02:27:15,240 --> 02:27:17,440
Speaker 7: just suddenly start moving, you get into it.

2728
02:27:17,440 --> 02:27:21,560
Speaker 6: It's impossible. I bet I bet all right.

2729
02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:25,000
Speaker 7: Well, NFL news coming out of Indianapolis Colts head coach

2730
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:28,359
Speaker 7: Shane Steichen says that running back Jonathan Taylor is expected

2731
02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:31,240
Speaker 7: to return to training camp this week. He doesn't have

2732
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:34,560
Speaker 7: a specific date, but he said he'll be back, so

2733
02:27:35,080 --> 02:27:38,720
Speaker 7: good news there. Free agent pass rusher Jadavian Clowney is

2734
02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:42,760
Speaker 7: meeting today with the Jacksonville Jaguars. This is according to ESPN,

2735
02:27:43,240 --> 02:27:48,480
Speaker 7: and Game two of today's Week one NFL preseason is underway.

2736
02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:50,879
Speaker 7: The Las Vegas Raiders have scored first against the San

2737
02:27:50,920 --> 02:27:54,040
Speaker 7: Francisco forty nine Ers. It's seven zero, one minute to

2738
02:27:54,080 --> 02:27:57,400
Speaker 7: go in the first quarter again Week one of the preseason.

2739
02:27:57,600 --> 02:28:00,200
Speaker 7: Earlier today, the Saints did beat the Chiefs twenty He's

2740
02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:02,879
Speaker 7: six to twenty four. Now let's move on to Major

2741
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:06,600
Speaker 7: League Baseball, because, uh, there was a rookie today, an

2742
02:28:06,680 --> 02:28:09,080
Speaker 7: unexpected hero in Pittsburgh.

2743
02:28:09,160 --> 02:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Full calp.

2744
02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:14,000
Speaker 2: Here's the stretch, the pitch lin drive lapfield, toward the

2745
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:18,520
Speaker 2: line that's gonna get over the who the first two

2746
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:19,959
Speaker 2: run it.

2747
02:28:20,240 --> 02:28:26,360
Speaker 8: Jared Tringolo's career ply rid free run, pinch hit, o

2748
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:29,199
Speaker 8: run her big three.

2749
02:28:29,800 --> 02:28:33,320
Speaker 2: How about that for your first faitjor league homer.

2750
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:35,600
Speaker 7: I mean, if you're gonna go out there and hit

2751
02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:38,199
Speaker 7: your first career homer might as well be a pinch

2752
02:28:38,240 --> 02:28:41,359
Speaker 7: hit three run shot that gives the Pirates the victory

2753
02:28:41,480 --> 02:28:43,640
Speaker 7: over the Reds. They have a double headers. This is

2754
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:46,359
Speaker 7: just game one. You heard all on the Pirates radio network.

2755
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:48,640
Speaker 7: Four to two was the final score. And then of

2756
02:28:48,680 --> 02:28:53,039
Speaker 7: course there's sho Hey Otawani, who has hit home run number.

2757
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:57,240
Speaker 6: Forty one of the season. Really, I can't, I mean,

2758
02:28:58,360 --> 02:29:01,199
Speaker 6: it doesn't get old, it doesn't get a saying this again.

2759
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:07,680
Speaker 2: There is nothing, no player to compare him to.

2760
02:29:07,959 --> 02:29:12,400
Speaker 7: I really though, really though, it's incredible. And luckily the

2761
02:29:12,440 --> 02:29:15,200
Speaker 7: Angels are still up. Okay, sometimes I'm telling you show

2762
02:29:15,200 --> 02:29:17,240
Speaker 7: hey TONI did something great, But the Angels are losing.

2763
02:29:17,440 --> 02:29:19,840
Speaker 7: Angels are winning. They're beating the Astros two to one

2764
02:29:19,879 --> 02:29:21,800
Speaker 7: in Houston. It's the top of the ninth inning that

2765
02:29:21,879 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 7: is just getting started. Yankees holding on to their lead

2766
02:29:25,160 --> 02:29:27,800
Speaker 7: over the Marlins seven to three. Bottom of the ninth.

2767
02:29:27,600 --> 02:29:28,840
Speaker 6: Inning in Miami.

2768
02:29:29,160 --> 02:29:31,160
Speaker 7: Miami has a man on first and second. They're down

2769
02:29:31,160 --> 02:29:33,600
Speaker 7: to their final two outs. Blue Jays look like they

2770
02:29:33,720 --> 02:29:36,480
Speaker 7: just officially beat the Cubs. Yes, eleven to four was

2771
02:29:36,520 --> 02:29:39,320
Speaker 7: the final score. Guardians top the Rays nine to two.

2772
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:42,360
Speaker 7: The Padres are beating the Diamondbacks three to one. Top

2773
02:29:42,400 --> 02:29:45,240
Speaker 7: of the second inning. Dodgers have scored first against the Rockies,

2774
02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:47,880
Speaker 7: one zero, bottom of the second. Giants up on the

2775
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:50,800
Speaker 7: Rangers at home, one zero bottom of the third, and

2776
02:29:50,840 --> 02:29:53,320
Speaker 7: the Brewers have scored some more. They're blanking the White

2777
02:29:53,360 --> 02:29:55,800
Speaker 7: Sox seven zero. They're about to start the bottom of

2778
02:29:55,840 --> 02:29:57,720
Speaker 7: the ninth inning in Chicago.

2779
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:01,560
Speaker 2: Back to you, all right, A great job as Oh?

2780
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:02,879
Speaker 6: Yes, all right.

2781
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:06,720
Speaker 2: So I'm watching this scoreboard on this Raiders forty nine

2782
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Ers game. In the first quarter, Trey Lance starting and

2783
02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:16,880
Speaker 2: he's already been sacked three times. Yeah, in a preseason game.

2784
02:30:17,320 --> 02:30:19,959
Speaker 8: There's some rough performances out there, and especially these guys

2785
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:23,720
Speaker 8: are starting with their second offensive line, which I don't know,

2786
02:30:23,800 --> 02:30:25,760
Speaker 8: maybe I got after just some time, but it feels

2787
02:30:25,760 --> 02:30:27,840
Speaker 8: like offensive line play when you get out of the

2788
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:29,680
Speaker 8: starter is just really bad these days.

2789
02:30:30,120 --> 02:30:35,560
Speaker 2: I just keep going back to this Trey Lance deal

2790
02:30:38,400 --> 02:30:41,560
Speaker 2: and what the forty nine Ers, and in particular Kyle

2791
02:30:41,600 --> 02:30:44,439
Speaker 2: Shanahan was thinking. I mean, I know it gave mindset,

2792
02:30:44,760 --> 02:30:49,879
Speaker 2: well the mindset was is that in his mind, you know,

2793
02:30:49,959 --> 02:30:56,480
Speaker 2: I've got this incredible offense. Unfortunately I'm limited with Jimmy Garoppolo.

2794
02:30:57,680 --> 02:31:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he can't do everything. And honestly, what this

2795
02:31:00,520 --> 02:31:02,840
Speaker 2: goes back to is what happened with the Chiefs and

2796
02:31:02,920 --> 02:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So they had Alex Smith, who, by the way,

2797
02:31:07,400 --> 02:31:09,960
Speaker 2: if you look at Alex Smith's one lost records, one

2798
02:31:09,959 --> 02:31:12,680
Speaker 2: of the best in NFL history. Alex Smith was more

2799
02:31:12,760 --> 02:31:16,599
Speaker 2: than just a serviceable quarterback. He was a winning quarterback.

2800
02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:21,400
Speaker 2: But in the mind of Andy Reid, they were limited

2801
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:25,160
Speaker 2: offensively because Alex Smith did not have the skill set

2802
02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:27,160
Speaker 2: to execute some of the things they wanted to do.

2803
02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:30,879
Speaker 2: And they see this Patrick Mahomes, who no one was

2804
02:31:30,920 --> 02:31:34,480
Speaker 2: really talking about. He's coming out of Texas Tech where

2805
02:31:34,520 --> 02:31:36,879
Speaker 2: everyone's putting up huge numbers anyway, so why is he

2806
02:31:36,959 --> 02:31:40,880
Speaker 2: any different? Well, they obviously saw something in him and

2807
02:31:40,920 --> 02:31:42,720
Speaker 2: it was the right move. So from this point on,

2808
02:31:44,400 --> 02:31:47,800
Speaker 2: these coaches, these offensive mind head coaches, are like, I

2809
02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:51,880
Speaker 2: need a quarterback that has the skill set to execute. So,

2810
02:31:53,800 --> 02:31:56,560
Speaker 2: you know, Kyle Shannan was convinced that that's Trey Lance,

2811
02:31:56,800 --> 02:32:01,560
Speaker 2: who had played one year of FCS football, one year

2812
02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:05,240
Speaker 2: at North Dakota State where they're better than everybody they play.

2813
02:32:05,320 --> 02:32:07,879
Speaker 2: I mean, they're like an FBS school playing at the.

2814
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:11,000
Speaker 8: FCS level, like that quarterback class could go down as

2815
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:14,400
Speaker 8: a very poor class minus Trevor Lawrence. And we still

2816
02:32:14,440 --> 02:32:16,520
Speaker 8: need to wait and see what Trevor Lawrence can do

2817
02:32:16,600 --> 02:32:19,879
Speaker 8: in his third year. But between him Zach Wilson, I mean,

2818
02:32:19,879 --> 02:32:21,720
Speaker 8: he had they had the chance. I know. The argument

2819
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:25,039
Speaker 8: was maybe you take mac Jones there, and obviously they

2820
02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:27,720
Speaker 8: chose they put their chips in with Lance over Jones.

2821
02:32:27,879 --> 02:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Well they got their mac Jones in Brock Purdy.

2822
02:32:30,760 --> 02:32:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2823
02:32:31,320 --> 02:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like you know, we say this and I mean,

2824
02:32:34,040 --> 02:32:38,320
Speaker 2: this is what we talk about in terms of being enamored.

2825
02:32:38,800 --> 02:32:42,119
Speaker 2: You know, get back to Anthony Richardson's situation, Like you

2826
02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:47,480
Speaker 2: see the athleticism and if we can somehow you hope.

2827
02:32:47,280 --> 02:32:50,320
Speaker 6: It turns into more than that, correct, right.

2828
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:55,760
Speaker 2: Or you play it safe and you take the quarterback

2829
02:32:56,200 --> 02:32:59,560
Speaker 2: that sits in the room and studies the opponent and

2830
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:01,880
Speaker 2: does the basics to execute the offense.

2831
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Right.

2832
02:33:04,760 --> 02:33:08,360
Speaker 2: I just I mean, I'm watching Troy. I wish nothing

2833
02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:11,720
Speaker 2: but the best for this young guy. But again, it

2834
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:15,200
Speaker 2: can't be a shock that a kid that comes out

2835
02:33:15,240 --> 02:33:20,800
Speaker 2: of North Dakota State, playing overmatched opponents week after week,

2836
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:25,160
Speaker 2: is having a hard time grasping what it is that

2837
02:33:25,280 --> 02:33:29,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan is laying out for him to execute the

2838
02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:32,400
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers offense that he dreams of. So and

2839
02:33:32,440 --> 02:33:34,879
Speaker 2: it's a rough start today. So he's been sacked three

2840
02:33:34,959 --> 02:33:37,840
Speaker 2: times already, He's thrown for nine yards on two passes.

2841
02:33:38,120 --> 02:33:39,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's not looking good.

2842
02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:42,080
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, especially when you see others so

2843
02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:45,000
Speaker 7: far in this preseason that have executed.

2844
02:33:45,160 --> 02:33:46,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, can have done well.

2845
02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:48,360
Speaker 9: Can I throw out a thought I had about Trey Lance.

2846
02:33:48,800 --> 02:33:50,480
Speaker 9: I've been kicking around in my head all off season.

2847
02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:53,720
Speaker 9: I think that there's a greater than ten percent chance

2848
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:56,120
Speaker 9: that Trey Lance is on the Vikings before the season's over.

2849
02:33:56,240 --> 02:33:59,400
Speaker 9: Interesting because I think the forty nine Ers quarterback situation

2850
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:01,000
Speaker 9: is going to be bad enough where Kirk Cousins is

2851
02:34:01,120 --> 02:34:02,760
Speaker 9: gonna look very desirable.

2852
02:34:02,800 --> 02:34:05,400
Speaker 2: All right, Well, think about where he could end Tampa,

2853
02:34:05,560 --> 02:34:09,440
Speaker 2: right Tampa's about Atlanta? I mean, if Desmond Ritter is

2854
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:13,720
Speaker 2: not gonna be all that. But honestly, how much are

2855
02:34:13,760 --> 02:34:16,080
Speaker 2: you giving up for Trey Lance right now? Not much

2856
02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:19,039
Speaker 2: I need to. I mean, I'm what am I gonna

2857
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:21,680
Speaker 2: give up a mid round pick? The idea that Trey

2858
02:34:21,760 --> 02:34:24,480
Speaker 2: Lance I'm looking at some proposed trades where teams are

2859
02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:26,320
Speaker 2: giving up second and third rough.

2860
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:28,520
Speaker 8: No, Trey Lance, no more than a fifth rounder. No

2861
02:34:28,560 --> 02:34:30,320
Speaker 8: more than a fifth rounder. At this point, He's not

2862
02:34:30,400 --> 02:34:33,240
Speaker 8: worth anything more than that because you're basically putting your

2863
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:36,000
Speaker 8: chips in for a mystery box quarterback who hasn't been

2864
02:34:36,040 --> 02:34:38,600
Speaker 8: able to see the field and about it since he's

2865
02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:41,520
Speaker 8: been drafted, has has has had an injury history, and

2866
02:34:41,600 --> 02:34:43,080
Speaker 8: to be honest, you don't know what he's gonna be.

2867
02:34:43,080 --> 02:34:45,440
Speaker 8: And it's not like we haven't seen quarterbacks from small

2868
02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:49,800
Speaker 8: schools succeed before, but and it's not like we've seen

2869
02:34:49,959 --> 02:34:53,000
Speaker 8: a guy give like one good year in college and

2870
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:54,920
Speaker 8: still be good in the in the pros, which is

2871
02:34:54,959 --> 02:34:57,920
Speaker 8: like the Joe Burrow scheme. But yeah, it felt like

2872
02:34:57,959 --> 02:34:59,879
Speaker 8: this one was just such a huge swing and miss.

2873
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:02,280
Speaker 8: Everyone knows it. It's like we were saying last year,

2874
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:05,120
Speaker 8: if they believed in Tree Lance, they would have played

2875
02:35:05,160 --> 02:35:08,760
Speaker 8: him by now, and they don't. The two most important

2876
02:35:09,800 --> 02:35:18,760
Speaker 8: ingredients and a successful quarterback are accuracy and decision making.

2877
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:25,720
Speaker 8: The ability to have that instantaneous recognition of what to

2878
02:35:25,720 --> 02:35:28,600
Speaker 8: do with the football. Either throw it to this guy

2879
02:35:28,680 --> 02:35:33,600
Speaker 8: that guy, throw it away, eat it, run whatever. The

2880
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:37,600
Speaker 8: great quarterbacks can make these decisions in a split second. Yeah,

2881
02:35:37,760 --> 02:35:41,400
Speaker 8: Tom Brady's the Patrick Mahomes, all the legends can do that.

2882
02:35:41,800 --> 02:35:44,959
Speaker 8: If you can't, you're just going to be.

2883
02:35:44,959 --> 02:35:47,400
Speaker 2: Another one of the run of the milk quarterbacks that

2884
02:35:47,480 --> 02:35:48,520
Speaker 2: ends up on the scrap heap.

2885
02:35:48,560 --> 02:35:52,320
Speaker 6: And that's not something you can teach. No, And it's

2886
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:53,560
Speaker 6: more like no.

2887
02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 7: I know it's a very small sample size, but Trey

2888
02:35:56,680 --> 02:35:58,480
Speaker 7: Lance doesn't pass the eye test.

2889
02:35:58,720 --> 02:36:01,440
Speaker 2: He's got too many things going on. Yeah, Shanahan keeps

2890
02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:04,119
Speaker 2: throwing all this stuff to see this. He's not seeing

2891
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:04,680
Speaker 2: it again.

2892
02:36:04,760 --> 02:36:06,400
Speaker 8: If he was going to see the field, they would

2893
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:08,280
Speaker 8: have put him out there already exactly.

2894
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:11,520
Speaker 2: All right, Rock Perty can see the field.

2895
02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeh.

2896
02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 2: He may not have a fraction of the athleticism of

2897
02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:19,120
Speaker 2: a Trey Lance, but at least he can execute the

2898
02:36:19,160 --> 02:36:21,000
Speaker 2: place and get the ball in the right hands.

2899
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:21,280
Speaker 3: All right.

2900
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:23,560
Speaker 2: On the other side, wrap this thing up for a

2901
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:27,400
Speaker 2: very busy Sunday. This is Fox Sports Sunday. A sixty

2902
02:36:27,480 --> 02:36:30,160
Speaker 2: yard field goal, Try to close out the half, Chucker

2903
02:36:30,200 --> 02:36:31,119
Speaker 2: gets the leg.

2904
02:36:30,959 --> 02:36:31,760
Speaker 3: Into its.

2905
02:36:39,640 --> 02:36:40,680
Speaker 6: Prince up.

2906
02:36:43,959 --> 02:36:50,440
Speaker 2: That's the Ravens Radio Network twenty four consecutive preseason victories.

2907
02:36:50,920 --> 02:36:54,800
Speaker 2: That's an unreal number because you don't really go into

2908
02:36:54,840 --> 02:36:57,400
Speaker 2: a game, Saint Wyoway. You gotta win this preseason game,

2909
02:36:57,560 --> 02:37:01,440
Speaker 2: and yet the Ravens have done it twenty for consecutive times.

2910
02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:03,800
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2915
02:37:20,680 --> 02:37:26,400
Speaker 2: Jason's gone for the no obasion. Oh you're back? Yep, Hey, Jmart,

2916
02:37:26,400 --> 02:37:27,160
Speaker 2: how are you? Man?

2917
02:37:27,480 --> 02:37:30,039
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. We got a tornado watching area that

2918
02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:34,000
Speaker 3: is pale falling. That's not something you guys experienced too

2919
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:35,600
Speaker 3: often out there we were.

2920
02:37:35,480 --> 02:37:39,120
Speaker 2: We were commenting because nobody wants to hear this. Like

2921
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:43,680
Speaker 2: I said before, almost everywhere on this planet. Jmart, your

2922
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:47,080
Speaker 2: first thought is the weather, and as someone has lived

2923
02:37:47,120 --> 02:37:50,360
Speaker 2: my whole life in southern California, that's never my first thought.

2924
02:37:50,400 --> 02:37:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we we don't have weather. It's we don't

2925
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:56,760
Speaker 2: have seasons. Let's put it that way, like we don't

2926
02:37:56,800 --> 02:37:59,119
Speaker 2: have a fall, because you know, most of the world

2927
02:37:59,160 --> 02:38:02,640
Speaker 2: like fall and bringer is so beautiful. You know, we

2928
02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:07,560
Speaker 2: don't have that. It just sort of like lineal just

2929
02:38:07,840 --> 02:38:09,959
Speaker 2: the same pretty much all the time.

2930
02:38:10,040 --> 02:38:12,000
Speaker 3: You guys have other things I would I don't like

2931
02:38:12,040 --> 02:38:14,080
Speaker 3: out there, whether or not one of them. When I

2932
02:38:14,080 --> 02:38:16,280
Speaker 3: was out there for Anaheim a few years ago in

2933
02:38:16,360 --> 02:38:18,200
Speaker 3: Anaheim in the first time I've been there in a while,

2934
02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:20,720
Speaker 3: and it was like it was hot, but it was dry, yes,

2935
02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:22,039
Speaker 3: and that was fine.

2936
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2937
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:25,200
Speaker 3: Here when it's one hundred and ten heat index, which

2938
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:27,240
Speaker 3: it has been a couple times in the last few weeks,

2939
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:30,600
Speaker 3: and the de points in the high seventies, yes, it's

2940
02:38:30,640 --> 02:38:34,160
Speaker 3: literally a sauna. There's a massive difference between the heat

2941
02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:35,520
Speaker 3: out there and the heat here.

2942
02:38:35,680 --> 02:38:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, yesterday I was on with Jeff Schwartz, who

2943
02:38:38,480 --> 02:38:41,280
Speaker 2: lives down the Carolina, so he had the exact He

2944
02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:45,000
Speaker 2: actually went golfing, he said, yesterday, and he's a big

2945
02:38:45,040 --> 02:38:47,280
Speaker 2: man by his own emission, maybe not one hundred percent,

2946
02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:50,920
Speaker 2: in great shape, and it was like a death march

2947
02:38:51,400 --> 02:38:53,480
Speaker 2: through that golf course. By the way, I always want

2948
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:56,959
Speaker 2: to thank our crew here, Chris working the board today,

2949
02:38:57,080 --> 02:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Chris hanging out all day today. It's good to see

2950
02:38:59,240 --> 02:39:02,120
Speaker 2: Chris doing a tremendous job. Montsey. Of course, he's just

2951
02:39:02,200 --> 02:39:05,640
Speaker 2: counting down to now that she's gotten past Taylor Swift.

2952
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:06,840
Speaker 2: Now it's the NFL season.

2953
02:39:07,080 --> 02:39:10,560
Speaker 6: Yes, you're right, you're right.

2954
02:39:11,840 --> 02:39:13,320
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. There are a lot more

2955
02:39:13,440 --> 02:39:17,240
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift fans at so far than there are Charger

2956
02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:21,680
Speaker 2: fans at a Charger game. That's rue every Charger game

2957
02:39:21,720 --> 02:39:23,800
Speaker 2: I've been to, there've been way more fans of the

2958
02:39:23,840 --> 02:39:27,160
Speaker 2: other team in attendance than the actual Charger fans. And

2959
02:39:27,200 --> 02:39:29,520
Speaker 2: then there's Bo who, of course is our brilliant producer.

2960
02:39:30,040 --> 02:39:33,840
Speaker 2: And we were talking a little bit here in your

2961
02:39:34,640 --> 02:39:38,720
Speaker 2: unfortunate absence about this Trey Lance situation in San Francisco.

2962
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 2: He got sacked by the way three times in the

2963
02:39:41,720 --> 02:39:44,600
Speaker 2: first quarter of this game. However, he's now heating up

2964
02:39:44,600 --> 02:39:46,680
Speaker 2: here on his second drive, so he's playing a little

2965
02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:49,800
Speaker 2: bit better. But we're just like, I'm still trying to

2966
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:54,400
Speaker 2: in retrospect the ego of Kyle Shanahan, thinking, I'll look

2967
02:39:54,440 --> 02:39:56,800
Speaker 2: what Andy Reid did, right, he had Alex Smith, very

2968
02:39:57,440 --> 02:40:01,000
Speaker 2: serviceable quarterback, a playoff quarterback. But I want to do

2969
02:40:01,160 --> 02:40:03,760
Speaker 2: more with my offense. I need a quarterback that has

2970
02:40:03,800 --> 02:40:07,160
Speaker 2: more physical tools to execute. They get Mahomes. The rest

2971
02:40:07,240 --> 02:40:09,120
Speaker 2: is history. I think that's what they were thinking with

2972
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Trey Lance, but he just hasn't been able to do it.

2973
02:40:13,879 --> 02:40:16,120
Speaker 3: It never made sense. I never really got it. I

2974
02:40:16,120 --> 02:40:17,840
Speaker 3: had so many experts to try to tell me Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance was it, and I was like, based on what, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of egos these guys. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton kept used in Taysom Hill even though he

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Speaker 3: had Drew Brees.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, and again we had the Jared

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Speaker 2: Goff deal from Matthew Stafford giving up multiple number ones

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Speaker 2: and they won a Super Bowl. Hey Jason, man, it's

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Speaker 2: been a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, it has been man.

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Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed it absolutely. But there's much more to come.

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Speaker 2: So don't go anywhere, keep it right here. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.