1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, sixty three, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Episode three of Joe Daly's Eye, the production of I 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, December ninety 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: two days until January. My name is Jack O'Brien, A 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: k A. Well, it's a marvelous night for a concert 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: um a star who's a guide in your eyes. Fantabulous 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: night to get COVID watching the ramblings of two older 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: guys and all the geasers are sneezing and coughing on 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: the boomers tacked in the front row. But baby, that'ss COVID. 11 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: It was invented to enslave. Even though I'm Irish, white 12 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: and rich, super rich, can I just spread some COVID 13 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: germs with you, my fans. That is courtesy of Matt 14 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: Dick at mcdick though, and I'm thrilled to be joined 15 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: as always by my co host, Mr Miles. Grandma got 16 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: infected by the virus sitting in the church. But Christmas Eve, 17 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: some may say there's no such thing as COVID, But 18 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: as for me and Grandpa, we believe. And that's from 19 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: Jimmins on the discord. I think somebody I think you're 20 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: you're partner put it in there and said, okay, my 21 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: my husband is a registered nurse and was just singing 22 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: this in their head all day. I think this could 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: work as an a k A. So that is a 24 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: genesis of that one. I'm glad it stayed in his 25 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: head and he wasn't saying that ship like out loud 26 00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: as he That would be from terrible excuse me another 27 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: And I was just just as I was going through 28 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: that extended that LP of a. It was just realizing 29 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: how we kicked the show off with what is the 30 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: closest the show gets to a Morning Zoo. Uh, it's 31 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: just like one of the Morning Zoo comparody people can't sing. 32 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: That's that's the innovation that we've brought to it. Anyways, 33 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat 34 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: by the hilarious and talented Connor del Rio Air con 35 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Air the con Man s conob eight of worlds right here, baby, 36 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey, thank you. I wouldn't say you guys 37 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: can't sing at all? Like publicly, I was into it. 38 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: There were things that resembled notes for both of us. Uh, Connor, 39 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: what's what's new with you? Man? What's happening? How are 40 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: you making out in these troubled times of hours? You know, 41 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm making out pretty good. I'm not making out. I'm 42 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: quite lonely, but I've I mean, I'm surrounded by towels 43 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: right now in the closet. Uh. And not just for 44 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: this recording, just in general, said yeah, this is my 45 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: temple spiritually mentally you're surrounded by towels in a closet. 46 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Metaphorical yeah, Uh, most of Baby Hitchhiker's Gut of Galaxy 47 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: always have a towel. Uh. I So in March, when 48 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: things like first, I think it was March, right, you 49 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: can all remember back in March fields, like when things 50 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: first started getting a little crazy. I actually so, I 51 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: was supposed to move into this new apartment on April 52 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: one in Los Angeles, and about a week before moving in, 53 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: I get a message from my friends saying, hey, my 54 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: roommate actually decided he's not going to move out anymore. 55 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm screwed, Like that's come on, man, 56 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: you can't do that. A week before I'm like, my 57 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: my roommate at my current apartment already are already found 58 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: a new roommate for the apartment. Like I, I got 59 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: nowhere to go. So I called my buddy and I 60 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: was like, hey, could I just you know, crash at 61 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: your place for a couple of weeks or a month 62 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: and I'll you know, I'll pay for your A C 63 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: bill or whatever. I'll pay for half your rent just 64 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: until I find a place. He was like, yeah, no problem. 65 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: And then two weeks into staying there, NEWSOM shuts down 66 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: the state and then all of a sudden everything starts 67 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: shutting down, and the guy who screwed me over, I'm 68 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: actually like, hey, thanks. You know, I didn't have to 69 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: sign a your lease. I wasn't stuck in a lease 70 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: like a lot of people have been unfortunately. And uh. 71 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: And so then I decided to go to I called 72 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: my aunt and uncle who live out in bumble fuck 73 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I mean, there, their street, their street name. 74 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: Well I can't I shouldn't give their address, their zip 75 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: code and zip code and social start with their social security. 76 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: They they live in bubble fuck New Hampshire. And I 77 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: was like, well, that's probably the better place to be 78 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: right now with everything going on just around nobody. And 79 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: they also had my dog because when I was filming 80 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: um the movie Half Brothers Uh last year, it was 81 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: in New Mexico for three months, and I don't want 82 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: to put them in boarding and they love dogs, and 83 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: so I brought him there to New Hampshire and so 84 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I hung out with them for what I thought was 85 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: gonna be like a month. I think we all were like, Oh, 86 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: this will be a month and then this Corona thing 87 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: will be gone, and but we all didn't know what 88 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: we were talking about. We're all confused. I think a 89 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: lot of us still are, but hung out New Hampshire 90 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: for three months. And then I'm from Chicago, born and 91 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: raised in Chicago, so I came to Chicago after that, 92 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and I've been in Chicago since June just kind of 93 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: all my family and closest friends are still in this city. 94 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: So this is where I've been hunkered down and you know, 95 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: trying to find the positives and things. Yeah. Yeah, the 96 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: real sampling of the different ways that the nation, different 97 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: parts of the nation shut down, deal with with quarantine. 98 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: Any any any insight to share how Chicago doing in particular, 99 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Chicago is doing well in New Hampshire, you know, my 100 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: My aunt and uncle are very they're scientists. They're all 101 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: for mask wearing all that stuff. And when I would 102 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: have my mask on everywhere i'd go, I'd get a 103 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: lot of dirty looks and things at gas stations wherever 104 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: I was. And uh, and then in Chicago it's you know, 105 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: obviously completely flipped. Um. People have been really smart about 106 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: it here. They supported it. Um. I also got here 107 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: in the beautiful summer, so it was it was nice 108 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: because people, oh my gosh, yeah, that's one of the 109 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: best cities in the world. To have a great summer, 110 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: you have to have an awful winter. People don't. People 111 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: don't take it for granted here. But so it was 112 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: kind of nice, man, Honestly, Um, it was really beautiful 113 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: and people were outside. I was riding my bike every day, 114 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: so it wasn't it wasn't sad. And um, you know, 115 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: cases were okay. And I have friends who work in 116 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: hospitals and they're always updating me saying, no, it's fine. 117 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's not bad at all. And March it 118 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: was really bad. You know, the people who don't like 119 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: to believe in this stuff just talk to like the people, 120 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, those are the people I trust the most 121 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: the ones who are actually they're dealing with this. Yeah, 122 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: and it was hell for them healthcare workers who are Yeah, 123 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: it blows my mind. We were recently talking about how 124 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: the nation has turned its lonely eyes to you as 125 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: a person in Chicago. All the all the top shows 126 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: in America are Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, Chicago, I don't know, 127 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls. Yeah, you saw that documentary over the everything. 128 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Chicago is having a mom um. Yeah, the Chicago Wednesdays 129 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: on NBC or something. I think they have like a 130 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: whole night dedicated to it. Yeah, I don't watch them. 131 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: You live it, man, We watch it to see how 132 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: you're living. Thank you. All right, Connor, We're gonna get 133 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 134 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things 135 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're gonna check in with the Florida 136 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: whistleblower who checked in with early on in the pandemic 137 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: when she was fired for building out data that was 138 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: too responsive to the facts. Her house was just rated 139 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: like a dissident in a post apocalyptic movie. So we're 140 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: talking about that and how CBS News is covering that 141 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: mainstream media nailing it once again. We're gonna just do 142 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: some COVID stuff. William Shakespeare got vexed in the UK. 143 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, um and how confidence in the 144 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: vaccine is increasing. We'll talk about whether we're allowed to 145 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: call this damn thing a coup despite the fact that 146 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: it uh seems to be more slapstick comedy. Uh, there's 147 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: been some interesting articles about why it's still more dangerous 148 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: than you would think based on the comedy of it all. 149 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the fact that the former head of 150 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Israel's NASA basically the NASA equivalent in Israel, says Aliens 151 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: are already here kicking it with us, no big deal. 152 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that, connor, what 153 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: is something from your search history that's revealing about who 154 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: you are? All right? You know? I was like, should 155 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I remove this? But I'm just gonna go for it. 156 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: The last thing was if you fell from a high 157 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: building on top of a person, would you live? Huh 158 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: okaya fight what? Yes? So if you fell from a 159 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: high building on top of a person, would you live? 160 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: But I couldn't word it in the way I was looking. 161 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: What I wanted to find was if you fell with 162 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: a person. Let's say you fell with a person and 163 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: then you kind of were holding to them on top 164 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: they hit the ground with the inertia, still kill you 165 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: as well. That's more my question, but I couldn't find 166 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: the answer. Is the person Batman? Because Dark Knight, I 167 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: think answers that when Rachel and Batman right right, the 168 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: person is not Batman. Yeah, I think you both die, 169 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: then both die. Yeah, unless they're really uh you know, 170 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: large and squishy. I would imagine like a person made 171 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: of mattresses. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's the only way. 172 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: It would have to be the only mattress, some manner 173 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: of beached whale. I feel like you'd be okay, like 174 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: one of those carcasses that from back in my crack days. 175 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: We did a like action movie myth busting article that 176 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: I think we we were specifically focused on the idea 177 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: of jumping off of the building into a dumpster, because 178 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: that seems to be the standard small breaking awnings. It 179 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: seems too obvious that you would just tear through and 180 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: uh you know, create modern art with a doorman and 181 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: your own inside. But but even the even the um 182 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the trash dumpster, it seemed like people were saying that 183 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: if it's beyond I think it was. It was a 184 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: surprisingly low number of stories that it's just deadly. It 185 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You're gonna because there's something specifically engineered in 186 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: there to uh slowly break your fall. You're you're gonna 187 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: get turned into putting. What if you're holding an umbrella 188 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: well as you descend? Yeah, exactly, it's a prettier fall. 189 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: Take that science, I think. But also I think the dumpster. 190 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean you have to like swish, your body has 191 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: to swish that. I mean to be perfect, the heel 192 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: of the rim your spinal explode. Yeah, you have to 193 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: before you jump off, you have to say lebron hopefully 194 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: into that because hold up your goose neck shooting hand 195 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: waiting for it to go in. Still all right, so 196 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: you die? So okay, yeah, wait what brought on that search? Exactly? 197 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Like what were you really were having a discussion and 198 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: you just be like, God, this dream may be real. 199 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: I was writing something, I want to say, I was 200 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: writing something and trying to figure out if that would 201 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: you want to the science? Yeah, I want to honor 202 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: the science. Yeah, I mean I've also like when I 203 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: would take elevators. I don't know if everybody thinks this way, 204 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: but before you hit, right before you hit it, do 205 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: you jump right before you hit and you like do 206 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: it on your side? You know, you go huh, but 207 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: I think the nurses still takes you. Yeah, it still 208 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: takes you down. I think so because your jump is 209 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: relative to the ground. So just like you're hitting the 210 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: ground at the same speed that you were traveling when 211 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: you jumped on a on a like stationary. I think 212 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: about this ship all the time, man, I know, I 213 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: get Yeah. The other thing I think about is like 214 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: if you jump off of a building, like running as 215 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: fast as you can, like how far out can you 216 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: make it? Um? Because yeah, that's just not that far. Yeah, 217 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: not that far, that far, not that far. Um Anyways, Uh, 218 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: fucking elevators, Man, you gotta watch out for those things. Uh. 219 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: At otis guys always trying to take you out. What 220 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: is something, uh that you think is underrated? Uh? Something 221 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: I think is underrated is uh the Leftovers series? This 222 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: television series. For some reason, it just went nobody watched it. 223 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: But that was like that's probably at least in my opinion, 224 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of critics and other people. 225 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I think it's like one of the greatest written shows 226 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: of all time. Like I was just I just talked 227 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: to somebody last week who was just swearing up and down. 228 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: I think Jack, you first started talking about it when 229 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: we started watching watch Men. I think because you were like, Yo, 230 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Lindeloff in The Leftovers is was like fire and and 231 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: I think my conception was season two was really good, 232 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: season one is whatever, Season two is like unbelievable. And 233 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: someone else came at me with the same things, like 234 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: you gotta funk with him in season two and through 235 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: like there there, it's next level. Yeah, damn. It was 236 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: interesting on the Watchman front because he basically started with 237 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: season two of of like season one of Lefto is 238 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: the book, and then season two they keep going and 239 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: like he gets to like write what happens after Yeah, 240 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: and that's when it gets really really good. And so 241 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: with Watchman, he was just like, let's just start here 242 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: that Usually most of the time it's the opposite, like 243 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: once people lose the source material, then all of a 244 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: sudden it downgrades. Yeah. Yeah, the Leftovers just what your 245 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: friends said. I mean, it's a heavy show. It's a 246 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: hard show, and I could see why a lot of 247 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: people maybe couldn't get in tune with it. Uh, But 248 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: that second season is like the writing is just like 249 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: a sweater that's been threatening, Like I see that's I 250 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: love writing like that. I think that makes sense because 251 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: I was a stupid Lost fanboy like up until season 252 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: three or four, and then like it completely was like, 253 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: oh I don't like it too much, but I will 254 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: stick around to be upset. I mean, especially that last 255 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: season with straight disrespect um. But yeah, and I think 256 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: then but like watching Watchman as well, where you go 257 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: seemingly from like this is all chaos and then you're like, 258 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, it was the fucking pieces where I 259 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: was eating the puzzle pieces the whole time I didn't know. 260 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: That's one of one of my favorite ways of like 261 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: enjoying like long form TV content. So yeah, that's also 262 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: one of those uh places where we like got the duo, 263 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: we like gave j J Abrams all the credit, and 264 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: then Lindeloff was back there actually like turning out to 265 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: be the dude who I don't know. I guess they're 266 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: both talented in their own ways. But I feel like 267 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: when when Lost first hit, people are like Abrams He's 268 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: gonna be the future, He's the next Spielberg. And then 269 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I feel like, what about Carton Ques Brood about that 270 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: guy on last year? I'm just thinking that, Like I was, like, 271 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: I only remember J J. Abrams. Yeah, um yeah, Lindeloff 272 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: is the band though. I think he's like one of 273 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: the best show runners and creators on TV right now. 274 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: He's awesome. I love the pilot of The Leftovers as 275 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: one of my favorite pilots of any show. Um. Then 276 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the season one wasn't crazy about and 277 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: didn't really watch it beyond a certain point. But season 278 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: two is incredible. And then for some reason I never 279 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: watched season three. It's great. It's great. Season two is 280 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: definitely like the Pinnacle, I think. But but season three 281 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: is wonderful. I think it has a perfect ending and 282 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: just great acting, great writing, great cinematic, great music, great everything. 283 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: It's just great, great, great great. What is something you 284 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: think is overrated? Coconut water? Coconut everything? What is up? 285 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: What is up? Come on? Man? I think I honestly, 286 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: I think coconut water tastes like like severed decayne feet 287 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: sitting in a swamp filled with trash, and like zombie 288 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: decomposed beavers swimming around in it. Like, I don't understand 289 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: the love for coconut water, especially in Los Angeles. That 290 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: is like it's holly there, coconut water, cocon I just 291 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 1: don't like coconut everything. The aftertaste is awful, It's awful. 292 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: Some coconut waters I've liked because the ones that are 293 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of taste good to me are the ones that 294 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: kind of smell it. Their tastes like old corn flake milk. 295 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Like there's like a feeling of old cereal milk to it. 296 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: Is that kind of coconut water. I drink and I'm like, oh, 297 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: this ship kind of tastes like an old bowl of cereal. 298 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, why do I pay five bucks 299 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: for this? I don't need this funk with it? Like, 300 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: I really like it. I think it's very refreshing, and 301 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: even I admit that it tastes like bad breath time, 302 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: Like when it's when it's warm, it just feels like 303 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: the inside of a mouth that hasn't been rushed in days. Yeah, yeah, 304 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: that's the flavor of coconut. Yeah. The the oil, I 305 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: like the oil, you know, good for my dog's coat, 306 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: my skin. You know, those things I think are undeniable. 307 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, the water I just remember to like, you 308 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: know what, maybe eight years ago is when it was 309 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: like it was started. It was perco Laton, like the 310 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: coconut water just trend and to the point like where 311 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: everyone in l A like it almost felt obligatory that 312 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: you went to some at least one event that was 313 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: sponsored by a coconut water company. Uh. And now I 314 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: feel like we're I think, I don't know, like what, 315 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I don't know who this. 316 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: I don't know as many hardcore coconut water people as 317 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I used to, or it's just normalized now right right, 318 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: It's just they just call it water, I guess in 319 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: defense of I am a big coconut head from the 320 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: day I was a child. I remember like still fucking 321 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: with like the coconut candies and a coconut or in 322 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: a like love Mound's Love Almond joy Um and coconut water. 323 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: I there's this anecdote that I think is true that um, 324 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: during World War Two, when there was a shortage of 325 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: blood plasma, they would use coconut water because it's identical 326 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: to human blood plasma. And could be safely injected directly 327 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: into the bloodstream according to body ecology. Uh so don't 328 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: do that, uh needlessly. But that's why I when I 329 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: drink it, I have the feeling of like, and it's 330 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: probably mostly mental, but I have the feeling like, ah, 331 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: this is going directly into the old veins, making that's 332 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: like minimal cannibalism. The way you phrase that you're just 333 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: drinking human when you can't drink human blood is what 334 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You've gotta go just go for the coconut. 335 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: Ever since you and Peter Deal have been on the 336 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: outs here, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, like Lacroix. 337 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: Whenever I see somebody who has Lacroix coconut, I'm just like, 338 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: it was a hard sell that. I mean, I like, like, 339 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: coconut cold is the only way to I have a 340 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: friend shoutout Nurse Brittany, who loves coconut. Lacroix drinks the ship. 341 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: I've seen her drink at room temperature, and I'm like, 342 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, sun tanned lotion that sounds like coconut 343 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: always available. That flavor is always available in the aisles. 344 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: When you look at Lacroix I'm just saying it's the 345 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: one that's always there, Yeah, the one that's vaguely brown 346 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: on the can, which is always an enticing flavor when 347 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: you're reaching refreshing seltzer. Yeah. I don't funk with coconut 348 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: flavored like things. Just okay, ump, except noah imitation. I've 349 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: always said that. All right, let's take a quick break. 350 00:21:47,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back. So there was 351 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: a news story yesterday warning that Rebecca Jones, who we've 352 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: checked in with before because she built that uh lit 353 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: Florida database or was in charge of populating it, was 354 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: key instrumental in building out this Florida database early on 355 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: in the pandemic that was just updating with data and 356 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: like making contact tracing uh seemingly possible, and then got 357 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: fired because she was not like telling the party line 358 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: of not nothing to see here. So her house was 359 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: just rated. The police came in with guns drawn to 360 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: take her computers and phone because they think she sent 361 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: a like hecked the system and sent an email to 362 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: people saying, like, you know, encouraging other people to be whistleblowers. 363 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: She claims it wasn't her, but regardless, it seems that 364 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: they would come in with guns drawn and point them 365 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: at her children. Uh, like two and eleven are Um. 366 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: It just has a very like dissident in a post 367 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: apocalyptic movie vibe to it, like where they're dealing with 368 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: the people who and without any you know, it's a 369 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: it's a Santist joint. This, this is a de Santist joint, 370 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: brought to you by the the artist, the director, Ron 371 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: de Santis. But it was weird because I was I 372 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: was reading through the coverage of this, and CBS News 373 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: took a a strongly skeptical view of Rebecca Jones. They 374 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: were like Since her firing, she has lit up social 375 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: media with post criticizing de Santis and his state agencies. 376 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: For months, she has tried to promote herself as a 377 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: victim who was fired for telling the truth, although there 378 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: is no evidence that supports her claim, which is just 379 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: I think a good reminder that the mainstream media is 380 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: in the business of like gaining access to people in 381 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: power and exchange for you know, favorable coverage and posing 382 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: up to the people in the know, um, and that 383 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: their point of view is irrevocably warped by you know 384 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: and tilted in favor of the people with access and power. 385 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: Just seemed really disgraceful that that was like their point 386 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: of view going into this thing where a person who 387 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, has a social media platform is going up 388 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: against the fucking government and they're pulling guns on her 389 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: and her family. They're like, yeah, Okay, she's been hella 390 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: thirsty on social media's it's like, what are you this? 391 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: The wild thing to me about her is too when 392 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: they when they say there's no evidence that like, you know, 393 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: this could be retribute or whatever they say, there's no 394 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: evidence that supports her claims that she was like a 395 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: victim who was fired for telling the truth. I mean, 396 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she has documentation around the idea that 397 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: they were saying, we need the numbers to look a 398 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: certain way, even if they don't, so we don't have 399 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: to lock down. Like the official party line is that 400 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: she was insubordinate, Like it's like what we're talking about, 401 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, the gun thing is so unnecessary. Like the 402 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: police like sort of pushed back on the idea that 403 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: they did drug guns. Cut to her video that shows 404 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: them with guns in hand the stairs, and then yeah, 405 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: the Miami Herald article was like, there's no evidence from 406 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the video that says that uh authorities pointed weapons at 407 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: anyone in Jones's home. What the funk are you talking about? 408 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: So they were just like vaguely pointing them up the 409 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: stairs where her and her kids were. But see they 410 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: put in new audio that sounded like police were there 411 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: and saying get your hands up whatever. And really it 412 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: was like a part the Season party sort of scene 413 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: where they were like, hey, if you're in the building, 414 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: get your guns up, and they were kind of doing 415 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: that thing. And see that was a total of deep 416 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: fake video that they did on there. But it's just 417 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: all it's all trash. I mean, the even like the 418 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: way that system is set up. I was reading that 419 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: that whole COVID like thing that she had set up 420 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: that's used by the state. They used the same user 421 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: name and password for the entire thing. So even if 422 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: she was booted out, like they didn't even change the 423 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: information after Like the I T security is absolutely laughable. 424 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: But then they want to act like, oh, these people 425 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: are hacking in or like using this information or whatever. 426 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: It's like this is all like it's such a clear 427 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: cut case of harassment. Um, And I mean, I don't 428 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: know I mean, we don't know if she left that message. 429 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like that's the most effective way to 430 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: get your point across. If you know, you're a data scientist, 431 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: but you know that's that's that's where we're at right now. 432 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Then De Santis has made his state like like intentionally 433 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: hostile to people who are either exposing the truth, standing 434 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: for the truth, or in opposition to any kind of discrimination. 435 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: So this, this, this all seems on brand for the state. Yeah, 436 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: and it's terrifying. I mean it's terrifying. You're right, it's 437 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: on brand. But I just don't understand, Like, if okay, 438 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: you're you want to get a cell phone, you want 439 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: to get a computer, why do you have to even 440 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: start with the raid of the house. Why does that 441 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: have to be the start. Why can't you have a 442 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: megaphone outside? Like, if you're gonna do this this little 443 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: mafio so thing that they're pulling off, why not have 444 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: everybody stake come outside. Everybody comes outside. You don't have 445 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: to have your guns drawn, especially since there's children. They 446 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: they if they know where she lives and they know 447 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: all this information about her, they know she has children, 448 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: they know what age, they are you know, tried to 449 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: do and they said she ignored them. The cow minutes, Yeah, 450 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: the cops knocked on her door and she was like, Okay, 451 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get arrested, so I should get dressed and like, 452 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, because these are COVID times, not everybody is 453 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: like camera ready the second the cops decide to randomly 454 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: make a house call. So and during this yeah, and 455 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: then during those twenty minutes, uh, they took that as 456 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: her you know, the police were picturing her in their 457 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: barricaded with weapons instead of just like putting you know, 458 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: getting her hair ready for rest or whatever the fuck. Um. Anyways, meanwhile, 459 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: just another story about who de Santis has put on 460 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: his actual uh you know, data analysis COVID team. Uh 461 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: is a young man, not a young man, old man 462 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: by the name of Kyle Lamb, forty year old who 463 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: is a sports blogger spent several years writing about Ohio 464 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: State University for Ohio State Universe. I apologize that is 465 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: my bad. Um. I remember being so confused on Monday 466 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: night football. I'm like, why the fund do they all 467 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: have that energy for the university? Does that go back 468 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: to like a feud with oh you or something where 469 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: like Ohio University was like claiming they were Ohio University 470 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: the state anyways. Uh, anyway back to the cluster. So 471 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Lamb has then recently gained a Twitter following for 472 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: doing the easiest thing to get yourself Twitter following and 473 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: amplifying conspiracy theories about COVID nineteen uh, including his belief 474 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: that masks do not prevent the virus from spreading and 475 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: that the pandemic might be part of a bio war. 476 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: And De Santis brought him on as a yeah, as 477 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: a member of his team to replace you know, I mean, yeah, 478 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: these are all attempts that legitimizing this kind of outlandish 479 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: talk of saying, well this is my expert, okay, and 480 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm ordaining them as being on my panel as governor. 481 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: That now suddenly people be like, well, I don't know 482 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: why they if this guy is on the governor's panel, 483 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: Like maybe we do need to think about this whole 484 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: bio war nonsense. It's fucked up, Like it's completely you 485 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: know that That's why everyone's faith in or in science 486 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: and medicine is like, you know, vacillating between like uh 487 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: faith and like what the fun is going on and 488 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: it's his. Uh, I feel like it's his. It's the 489 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: santisist way of just trying to throw as much you know, um, 490 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: like garbage in the middle of the floor that people 491 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: have to clean up before getting to him. Flood the 492 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, flood the zone with ship is ship before 493 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: they can blame me and take me out. You know. 494 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: It's that is a bet. That's something from his playbook. 495 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's terrifying. Man's so it's so awful, Like 496 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: that's why I'll I will always I'll always go with 497 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: the scientists. I mean, luckily, you know I had There's 498 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: there's quite a few in my family. Shout out to 499 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: my cousin Elliott Stanford working at a lab making masks 500 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: for people around the world out of old Scoopa mass 501 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: And I mean she's been working since March Man Cameron 502 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: growing weed. We need that too, we need that too. Um. 503 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's uh. I've heard he's converting some scuba 504 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: masks as well. Is that Yeah, he is just cut 505 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: some ship to like the wildest dad rig you've ever seen. 506 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: There were some scholars in my family. I did like 507 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: two weeks of community college and was like it's not 508 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: for me and UH and left. You know, all my 509 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: community college students out there, they'll keep going. Man, get 510 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: to get to get to get to get it. Uh. 511 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about, um, some ideas for police reform that 512 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: are being put forward in California. There's a bill being 513 00:31:54,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: discussed that is kind of incrementalist the way that basically 514 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: all of the ideas for police reform that are endorsed 515 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: by uh the police are attend to be. But yeah, 516 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: this one is basically saying that becoming a cop should 517 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: require you to have a bachelor's degree and be twenty 518 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: five years old, just based on statistics about what police 519 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: officers with those attributes, how violent they are versus otherwise. Yeah, 520 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: the legislator who's putting it, who's who wrote the bill, UH, 521 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: is referring to like this study in twos ten that 522 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: that basically says that college educated officers typically typically typically 523 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: use less force often and fewer complaints filed against them. Now, okay, 524 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: that's a good thing to identify that group of people. UM, 525 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: but this is you know, like we're saying this is 526 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: incremental change when we know what the real issues are. 527 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: But you know, this isn't the issue here. And like, 528 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: the reason this bill is coming out isn't because we 529 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: have a problem with you know, not enough cops who 530 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: studied abroad in Bartarlona. You know, we have fucking real 531 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: issues here. This is an issue within policing that is 532 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: anti black, anti poor, anti fucking everything. Uh. And they're 533 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: protected by powerful unions that can keep any kind of real, 534 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: meaningful like legal repercussions from ever you know, getting close 535 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: to them, as well as like the financial consequences via 536 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: these like ridiculous retirement plans a lot of these people 537 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: have where it's like, dude, you get fired and then 538 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: you're fucking set, like no matter what, even if you 539 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: straight to murder somebody twice. Uh. And this is just 540 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, these are the kinds of things that you'd 541 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: wish the legislators were actually looking at, because this is 542 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: a good way of legislator being like, well, this is 543 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: this is an improvement. Yes, that would be great because 544 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: right now you just need to be I think like eighteen, 545 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: or have an equivalent like eighteen with an equivalent in 546 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: a high school diploma to begin your training, and it 547 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: can be I think twenty. If you're in the California 548 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: Highway patrol. But yes, this is that's a good way 549 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: to try and weed out other people. But it's really 550 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: a disingenuous attempt at real reform, and we just need 551 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: to look at how much money is going to these 552 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: departments and actually just having this conversation about reinvesting in communities, 553 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: because the perception in law enforcement in this country is, well, 554 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: people commit crime because they're black, rather than seeing the 555 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: full picture of how black and brown Americans have been abandoned. 556 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: And we're merely just branding this failure of governance as crime. 557 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's not, oh, it's crime. It's not we've 558 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: failed these people. They have no recourse. They're so desperate 559 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: that they commit crime. People commit crimes out of desperation. 560 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: You know, nine times out of ten. There are some 561 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: people who just do it for the jollies. But let's 562 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: be real, like a lot of this is about survival. 563 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: Like you deal drugs not because you've got to kick 564 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: out of dealing drugs. You do it because that's the 565 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: only employment available to you that has the kind of 566 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: income that are looking for. Unfortunately, or things other things 567 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: like that. Gang people don't want to be in gangs. 568 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: Like this is all these are all you know, fact, 569 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: these are all byproducts of this failure. Um. And I 570 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: just want to also point out that this study that 571 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: the legislator uh is using to say like, oh yeah 572 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: look check this out, like you know, people who have 573 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: been to France and college, you know, murder less. Uh. 574 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: It was done by the National Police Foundation, which I 575 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: just want to point out that they love community policing 576 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: like solutions, and they love putting forward the broken window 577 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: policing strategy, which is totally fucked up and completely wrong 578 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: and backwards and biased. So it's already like you know, 579 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: it's we're we have an imperfect thing, drawing from an 580 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: imperfect place, trying to you know, be presented as you know, 581 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: meaningful change. Uh. So it's just I think, just well, 582 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: we will continue to see things like this that look 583 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: good and are good, but I think are avoiding what 584 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: all the outcries were from the public over this last year, 585 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: over what is necessary to change the relationship between the 586 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: community and law enforcement. Yeah yeah, I mean, I you know, 587 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: I grew up in in the city of Chicago. What's 588 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: Chicago public schools? Very diverse schools and all that, and 589 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: I I can't tell you enough. I mean, there are 590 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: people who I've met and who I've known a little 591 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, I'm becoming a cop. In my head, 592 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, they're letting you become a cop, right, They're 593 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: they're allowing, and I'm like, I'm like what, And so 594 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't. It's like there's so much about character and 595 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: personality that matters, I think with becoming a cop that 596 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of thing you could create 597 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: to figure that out of how you get the best 598 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: character and personality to become a cop, because it's it's 599 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: it's it's a humanity job. It's dealing with people. It's 600 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: having empathy for people, Like you need to have empathy 601 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: for people. You need to want to work for people. 602 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I think even to your point about like the character 603 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: that of you know, of the kinds of officers that 604 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: need to be out there on street is I think 605 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: you start that by just having like reinforcing the fucking 606 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: rules so the ones who don't act with humanity in 607 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: mind are quickly just booted the funk out and it's 608 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: made known to people. It's like, yo, yea, this isn't 609 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: the place, like if you want to funk around and 610 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: do that go to Florida or whatever fucking other you know, 611 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: police department. But I think for police departments this whole 612 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: idea of like, well, a couple of bad apples or whatever. 613 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: It's like, well, then tossed out all the fucking bad 614 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: apples then and then see what you're left with and 615 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: then figure out what the real problem is. But they're like, 616 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 1: there's no even sort of the energy for that isn't 617 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: even there. So we get all these sort of like 618 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: half measures that have the like on paper are police reforms. 619 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: But we are we are well, and we are way 620 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: past the time for these small things like those things 621 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: should happen sixty years ago if you want to like 622 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: start that little incremental process. But now we're looking at 623 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: the situation and we need, you know, we need to extinguish. Yeah, 624 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the more you know about history, like that's 625 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: that seems to be something that like the like, it's 626 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: not just that black communities are abandoned, it's that they're 627 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: actively imprisoned through redlining in communities where the you know, 628 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: official government policy is to deprive them of resources and 629 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: then they're only interaction with the state. Like that ten 630 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: year old who's riding by on his bike. Is only 631 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: interaction with the state is violent racist police, Like it's 632 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 1: it's not a problem that can be addressed through incremental change. 633 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the pandemic. What's going on 634 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: with the vaccines? The UK started giving out the vaccines 635 00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: and we get to see people get yeah, there's it's sick, dude, 636 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: we're getting vaxed. So where did they specifically choose someone 637 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: named William Shakespeare, like for for the purposes of just 638 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: like good good marketing. They're like, guys, Bill Shakespeare is 639 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: getting the vaccine, y'all, come on, UK, where are you 640 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: at it? Just you know, it began with like some 641 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: elderly people and yes, they're just happened to be this 642 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: eight year old man legal name William Shakespeare who got 643 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: vaccinated on Tuesday. And I think that's been getting a 644 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of attention. I think, ay, just this story because 645 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: like we're seeing like massive rollout of immunization programs happening, 646 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: and like that's I think I think that most like 647 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: oh fuck, hope on some level please now soon. Um 648 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: So because of that, they're getting a little more attention here. 649 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: And then the story within this area that got the 650 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: like the first rollout of vaccines in the UK, you 651 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: got an old guy named Bill Shakespeare. The literally the 652 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: first person and or technically the person who first got 653 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: it is a ninety year old this nine year old woman. 654 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 1: But I think Bill Shakespeare is just getting the shine 655 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: because of the name um in the in the difference 656 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: in photos like the photo of I posted in the 657 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: dock of like Bill Shakespeare. He's very like stoic and 658 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm getting vaccinated. And the woman who is 659 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: actually the first person to get it, she looks like 660 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: god funk at all. Like her energy is like she's 661 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: wearing a mask. She's got like a cheery Christmas shirt on, 662 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: but her face is like says, this is such a 663 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: fucked up year, even though I'm getting vaccinated. I feel 664 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: like her image really sums up like where people are 665 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, this good things happening, I guess, 666 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: but like I'm I'm fucked inside from the last nine months. 667 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: Also such a perfect encapsulation of what we see with 668 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: the old white guy, or just the white guy not 669 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: wearing a mask. Uh, he's just like why would I 670 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, but I'm vaccinated right, Um Yeah, I 671 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: mean it's nice to see that this happening. Like it's 672 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: weird how I'm getting a secondary high right yo. Yo, 673 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: the vaccine, Yo, they're getting it over there. But I 674 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: don't know if like we're after hearing that Trump turned 675 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: down for like the opportunity to buy more vaccines from Fiser, 676 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh fuck, so that was over the summer 677 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: before we knew. It was like, hey, things are promising, 678 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: let's buy some Let's buy some of these these vaccines. 679 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: And he was like, nah, yeah, well I don't think 680 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: it's fiscal restraint more than his just like I don't 681 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: know if I who gives this ship. It's it's it's 682 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: not real, but yeah, this is. But seeing this happen, 683 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: I think it should bring great joy to at least 684 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: the people of the UK and then whenever the funk 685 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: it happens in the US. There was a super producer 686 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: and sent around like a link to be like figure 687 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: out your place in line for the COVID vaccine in America, 688 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: like based on like the county you live in, in 689 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: your age, and I'm it's it's gonna be a while 690 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: before I get to the top of that list. Yeah, 691 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: but you're right though, it is nice. It is that. Uh. 692 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: I think it's that light at the end of the tunnel. 693 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: I think some people are starting to think that tunnels 694 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: like really short. I'm like, no, we still got a 695 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: ways to go, you know, but there is one from 696 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: the darkness to light. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's not like yo, 697 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: I can I can make out a tree in the 698 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: tunnel's mouth. It's like it's a pinhole. Yeah, a couple 699 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: of times. Yeah, we got Yeah. I mean we're seeing 700 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: just steady increases in the number of people who feel, 701 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, willing to get vaccinated, who are going to 702 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: be who think they'll be willing to get vaccinated. Uh. 703 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: The numbers were very discouraging earlier in the vaccine or 704 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: in the pandemic there I forget. I think back in 705 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: September it was about fifty percent of Americans said they 706 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: were down to get the vaccine, and now that numbers 707 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: up to sixty three. Uh so, yeah, it makes a 708 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: difference when I wonder how much of it has to 709 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: do with Trump losing two that, like in general, they're like, well, 710 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: if you're asking me in this administration in this context, 711 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm not really but the number started going up in October. 712 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: So I don't. It seems like it's a It could 713 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: be many different things. But in terms of Democrats, they 714 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: said SI said they would be open to it in 715 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: September and now it's at seventy. UM. When it comes 716 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: to independence, just over sixty of Independence say they would 717 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: be willing to get it, and fifty percent of Republicans 718 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: reported that they were willing to be vaccinated and that 719 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: hasn't changed. So I don't like if Trump is, I don't. 720 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what their logic is that 721 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: if it was Trump's they were still at fifty because 722 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: all of the misinformation has themselves fucked up that even 723 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: if it was their d your leader being like, here's 724 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 1: your vaccine, they're still like, I don't know. Meanwhile, there's 725 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: movement on the other side being like yes, please, like 726 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: we need health, we need safety. I think wondering too, Sorry, 727 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: keep going. I was just I think I think his 728 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: leadership has just been so like this seems pretty intuitive 729 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: to me that that as you know, the person who's 730 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: in charge, or as there's even light at the end 731 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: of the tunnel, as like the media seemed to come 732 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: around to the fact that he was losing the election, 733 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: like I feel like and as the you know, vaccine 734 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: and the pandemic response got dissociated from his administration, but 735 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean his his leadership has been you know, undeniably bad. 736 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 1: So like the idea when when you're at first associating 737 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: it with a world in which he is the person 738 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: who is like leading the charge versus like a world 739 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: where he might not be, I can fully understand that 740 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: that shift. Hmm. I wonder too though, like this is 741 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: maybe this is like an off ramp from the main topic. 742 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: But this whole like disinformation thing is So did you 743 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: guys read the talking to strangers by any chance? But Gladwell, 744 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: there was this, uh, there's this interesting portion of the 745 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: book that talks about like that outlier, like everybody in 746 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: society can say, let's you know, forty years ago, let's 747 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: say of people say yeah, I'd take a vaccine. I'm 748 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: all four vaccine, that's the science. I support it. And 749 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: then you have one person who's like, now I'm going 750 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: to question this a little bit. I'm gonna go on 751 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: the other side of it. You know, what, what can 752 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: does a vaccine due to your body? Do we know 753 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: the long term effects? All these things right, and you 754 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: have that one person, that outlier, and he talks about 755 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: how it's always important to have, you know, at least 756 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: one person who kind of goes against the majority to 757 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: kind of just question things right. But then he talks 758 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: about what happens if everybody starts to become that kind 759 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: of outlier, idealist and personality who's questioning everything, you don't 760 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: you have a society that can't function because everybody's just 761 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: like going off the walls with their ideas and what 762 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: they believe in. And I feel like that's kind of 763 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 1: what he talked about is kind of what's been happening 764 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: with social media and this mass amount of disinformation and 765 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: people not people find it hard to I think, believe 766 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: anything at this point, and I think some people have 767 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 1: a hard time believing Bolsa either side of the yell. 768 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: Then you have people like Jake Paul who then are like, yeah, 769 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: of news is fake. Like no matter who you're getting 770 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: here from, you're like, oh wow, I'm glad you have 771 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: the eye for that two of real news. And it's 772 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: twenty million people right who follow this guy and and 773 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: and listen to that platform, which just scary. So it's 774 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: like is this Are we on this like indefinite path 775 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: of disinformation? How do we does this? Does this cease 776 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: to exist as this administration slowly becomes a ghost. And 777 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: I think I'll always just point to the fact that, like, 778 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: until we take care of people's needs, they're gonna be 779 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: willing to believe whatever explanation someone just slightly a few 780 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: ticks smarter than them is going to offer them. Um. 781 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think like even if we do get 782 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 1: a hold of it, like if you don't get people 783 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: like like to work or like the ability to support 784 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: their families or to have a life and to have 785 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: health care or an education, I think like that's probably 786 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest tool to melt away like the 787 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: you know, that sort of mentality of being so contrarian 788 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: to like, you know, or feed these fires of misinformation. Um. 789 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, it's it's I think we're 790 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: experiencing like we're just at the beginning of it, Like 791 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: we're just at that stage where everyone's like, I think 792 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: it's a problem. Yeah, and that's where we're a yeah, yeah, 793 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: crazy man. The And I think also we need to 794 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: figure out what we're going to do with regards to 795 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: social media idea and how that is policed, but at 796 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: all I don't know a good solution to that, because 797 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: they're good value, valuable things that it brings in also 798 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: just nightmarish what happens if you have no replies, no arties, 799 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: no likes on Twitter. Well, it's also like the level 800 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: of control that we're asking the social media networks to 801 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: exercise is not when you look at like the story 802 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: about how the Facebook spreading misinformation that led to like 803 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: race riots that killed thousands of people, Like the that 804 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: was a story that was on their radar, and they 805 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: just didn't do the necessary things to like monitor they're 806 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: not they didn't create like the team that was necessary. 807 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: It's just there's no incentive. So I guess like one 808 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 1: answer would be that like just trying would be a 809 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 1: good first step, because we haven't even tried. It has 810 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: just been a complete fucking free for all in terms 811 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: of like letting these uh networks operators just ad networks 812 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: who are only there to monetize the interactions and have 813 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: no actual responsibilities. All right, let's take a quick break 814 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back, and we're back. What one 815 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: thing that I've noticed is there's been a flurry of articles. 816 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: We've been talking on the show for a while now 817 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: about how the it's hard to take the Trump administration, uh, 818 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 1: their attempt at, you know, overturning the election seriously because 819 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: of just how surface level farcical it is um at 820 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: every turn. Um. But there does seem to be you know, 821 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: we like when you describe in broad and general terms 822 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, it's actually very scary. So 823 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: we were kind of wrestling with that over the past 824 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and the mainstream media seems to be 825 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: at least having the conversation about how to you know, 826 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: take some of the stuff seriously. Hopefully not too late 827 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: that they're having this conversation, but like there there's a 828 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: bunch of articles on whether it can be called a 829 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: coup or not because it's so incompetent, Like is does 830 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: it belong in that category of attempts that overthrown government. 831 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't think style treatment of talking about this is 832 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: going to help. It's like, can he even call it 833 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: a coup? Like really, you know, like it's like, um, 834 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: let's not laugh at like the smoldering fire in the corner. Yeah, 835 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, so recently, yesterday, the Arizona Republican Party at 836 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: easy gop so, the actual you know Twitter handle of 837 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: the Arizona Republican Party asked their followers if they were 838 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: willing to die for the cause of stopping the steel 839 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: in a retweet of an anti Semitic right wing extremist 840 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: who tweeted, I am willing to give my life for 841 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: this fight, and there's on a Republican Party retweet and 842 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: said he is are you? Um is the gatorad commercial? Yeah, 843 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: exac like what um So? They took that down when 844 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: it started getting some backlash. Uh. And then immediately after 845 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: posted a tweet that was a picture from the movie 846 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: Rambo with Rambo pointing an arrow point blank at somebody's 847 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: like face, like the tip of the arrows in the 848 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: person's face and he's pulling it back, getting ready to 849 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: just do a point blank headshot with an arrow, bow 850 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: and arrow and says uh. And the tweet is in quotes, 851 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: this is what we do who we are live for 852 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: nothing or die for something American flag again from the 853 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: official Arizona Republican Party. Um, this is how like extremist 854 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: groups also recruit martyrs like people. It's the same language 855 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: of like die for this, you down to die for this, 856 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: and I mean i'd luckily, like I mean somewhat luckily, 857 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: Like a lot of other Republicans are pushing back on 858 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: these tweets, which is what when they were getting ratio, 859 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, maybe a bad idea, but nonetheless that's 860 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: still creating this environment still exists. Like people showed up 861 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: to the Michigan Secretary of State's house. Yeah, I mean 862 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: protesting on this stop the steel nonsense with weapons while 863 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: she was trying to decorate her house for Christmas, or 864 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: a real war on Christmas moment. Uh, will not get 865 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,720 Speaker 1: covered by Fox, i'd imagine. So just on a longer 866 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: term and like more circumspect view, you know, I've also 867 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: seen the response even from like people who I think 868 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: are smart on the left, who it just seems like 869 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: from a posturing perspective, don't want to seem like they're 870 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: the boy who cried Wolf, or alternately just want to 871 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: seem like cool enough and like worldly enough to be 872 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: like this isn't a coup. You think this is a coup, 873 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: This is nothing like are idiots? You should have studied 874 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: Barcelona in me right stuff? Yeah, but this writer in 875 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,439 Speaker 1: the Atlantic who's a popular, really talented academic name named 876 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: zep tufik Chi wrote, So, she grew up in uh Turkey, 877 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: and she writes about how basically like if you are 878 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: from a place where coups are common, Um, this definitely 879 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: feels like a coup, and the question of whether it 880 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: should be called a coup seems somewhat silly and beside 881 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: the point. And it's more important to just talk about 882 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: in specific terms, like what is actually happening, because these 883 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: are all norms that are being toppled that make it 884 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 1: so that you can do a coup with impunity. Like 885 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: just because this particular time is incompetent um, it does 886 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: not mean that we should be ignoring. Like at one 887 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: point she uh just lays out all the things that 888 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: are happening. Um, and you know, viewed from the perspective 889 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: of someone who grew up at the whims of you know, 890 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: five major coups throughout her lifetime, pants a pretty stark 891 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: picture like that. The president has repeatedly and baselessly claimed 892 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: the election was stolen and continues to do so daily, 893 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: effectively charging the election officers around the country being involved 894 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: in a dangerous conspiracy. The president is key. Allies have 895 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: repeated really called for Republican state legislators to steal the 896 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: election for him. The president, who has the power to 897 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: appoint judges, is asking for Supreme Court nominees to UH 898 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: or Supreme Court to steal the election for him UH 899 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 1: and has asked the court to throw out valid votes. 900 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: Right after the election, a legal advisor to the president stated, 901 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: we're waiting for the Supreme Court to do something and 902 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,320 Speaker 1: hopefully Amy Comy Barrett will come through. High profile allies 903 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: of his are physically intimidating George's Republican government or governor 904 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: for backing the actual vote count, amplified messages that call 905 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: for people to fight back hard, and then his election 906 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: lawyer said that the entire election and all swing states 907 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: should be overturned, like it's just yeah, it's all there, yeah, 908 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: And then they said that Christopher Crebs uh should should 909 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: be shot at dawn, like that's all the sort of 910 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: thing that you would have in a coup. It's just 911 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: that because the president didn't do the planning necessary and 912 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: the political maneuvering necessary, he isn't capable of doing it 913 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 1: like his team. They're saying like Basically, the incompetence of 914 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: the whole coup is why people aren't stating that this 915 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: is a coup. It's like this, it's like that's it's 916 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: like you know, fucking crocodile Dundee ship where by trying 917 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: to rob you with a knife and you're like, that's 918 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: not a knife v season knife and you're like you're 919 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: you're laughing off. You're the transgressor because the attempt is 920 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: so whacked and you're like, I'm gonna call the cops 921 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: on that idiot that would and it's like the mentality 922 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: when it's like, well, hold on, that wasn't attempted robbery, 923 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: So really, if we won't put this on paper, this 924 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: motherfucker attempted to rob you. To be clear, that is 925 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: not an advisable way to deal with a mugging because 926 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: they could just go and get a gun, right, but 927 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: either way, But to that point is maybe some other 928 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: goon saw them be like okay, so you can't stick 929 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: them up with that knife. Okay, so I need something 930 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: bigger than that knife, and you're setting it like again, 931 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: were the real thing here is also in her article 932 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: is talking about you know, treat I think what was 933 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: that I put the quote at the bottom she like, 934 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: this is your first coup. If you want to be 935 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: sure that it's your last, exactly like treat this like 936 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: a robbery and fucking golf and and and bring the law, 937 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: bring them to just like you can't do this ship. 938 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: And I think that's why there's this other debate that's 939 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: also brewing, is what is Joe Biden going to do 940 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: when he becomes the president because this like hand holdie, well, 941 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: we don't want to like we want to heal the country. 942 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: That's not healing my man. That is not going to 943 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: be healing That is saying yo, y'all can get away 944 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: with this ship if you do it slicker, and that 945 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: is a terror, like you have to we have to 946 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: actually put an end to it by actually exercising or whatever, 947 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: using the legal system, justice system to try and hold 948 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: these people to account. But I I seriously doubt that 949 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: that would ever happen because you know, Democrats are the 950 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: party of like where this is a smoke free environment, 951 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: even if the smoke is necessary for the good of 952 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: the country and the you know, she talks about how 953 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: one of the coups that overthrew her government and that 954 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,479 Speaker 1: was very dangerous and led to hundreds of people being 955 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: tortured to death. Was like basically the remnants or the 956 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: aftershock of an original coup that was laughed out of 957 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: the building, like like this one is being like it 958 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: was not seen as serious. And she also points to 959 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: Napoleon Bonaparte, the third Napoleon bonapartes I guess grandson like 960 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: did did a coup that was like called beyond comedy 961 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: by uh the French press, and then eventually like ten 962 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: years later overthrew the government and remade it in his 963 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: image for you know, thirty years and completely altered the 964 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: course of history after or unattempted coup that was absurd 965 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: and hilarious. The wild thing is this isn't even hilarious, 966 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's in a way 967 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: like sure, Rudy Giuliani sweating and black from his head 968 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: and you know, smear and snot on his face and 969 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but like the but when you're looking 970 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: at it, it's truly like we're saying, like it's the 971 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter for white supremacy as like a form of governance, 972 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: or there's attempts to try and fight fight back against it, 973 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 1: and it's like they're not gonna fucking just lay down, 974 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: Like the whole country was built on this. So there, 975 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a dangerous thing to like 976 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: I think on one level, like we laugh about it 977 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: too on this show, but that's more of like out 978 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: of existential dread, but at the same time wanting to 979 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: keep an eye on this ship because I think we 980 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: as we talk about it, you there will always be 981 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: somebody who's trying to improve upon the last person's contribution 982 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: in like every field, you know, like there is somebody 983 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: who's knuckling up, like see Trump did it wrong this way, 984 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna bring in a ethno state, it 985 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: has to happen this way. And that that that that 986 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: that that like there are people whose gears are moving 987 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 1: to and I think that's why it's it's it's important 988 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: to not to also have the mindset that this doesn't 989 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: it's not over January twenty, like this is this is 990 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: the beginning of the new the next phase of whatever 991 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: this country's history is, and it's going it's pivotal, right. 992 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: I also think too, in uh, just America in general, 993 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: of American people and even I think to an extent. 994 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm I've certainly thought this way. Sometimes. I think there's 995 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: like disillusionment of like, oh, that wouldn't happen in America 996 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: though like Turkey, you know, tanks like running over civilians 997 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: and helicopters shooting at buildings like that, that wouldn't happen here, 998 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: That could never happen here, And I think I think 999 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: it's important to keep in mind that that absolutely could 1000 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,919 Speaker 1: happen here. I mean, I to be honest, I didn't 1001 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: even I used to think a coup is only defined 1002 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 1: as uh like a general military. Yeah, I didn't even know. Yeah, 1003 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea that it could be. I mean, 1004 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: and it totally makes sense obviously that it can be 1005 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: defined as an administration just kind of refusing to down 1006 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: there's no it's it's wild because that specific definition, and 1007 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: like the it really seems strange that there would be 1008 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: so much energy on being like this isn't a coup 1009 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: and defining what a coup is and like making sure 1010 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: that uh, something that isn't that like doesn't get because 1011 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: there's been like tons of articles. There's a Washington Post 1012 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: op ed that is like all about how this isn't 1013 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: a coup and you shouldn't call it a coup um. 1014 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: But like the the US government has been subject to 1015 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: coup's from like within, from the CIA, Like you know, 1016 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: you have these governments within the government that are taking over, 1017 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: uh doing underhanded black state, black ops ship and you know, 1018 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: because we're not willing to like when you actually read 1019 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the history of these things, uh, it's like, oh, yeah, 1020 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: they created the reality that we grew up in to 1021 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: favor them. But like it's that there's a whole of 1022 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: their history of like uh things that just we didn't 1023 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: view as a coupe because it was happening under the surface. Yeah, again, 1024 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: it's a coup on paper, so treat it like you know, 1025 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's why the next administration and even 1026 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: now they need to be talking like this. But again 1027 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 1: it's too spicy. It's it's okay for the people on 1028 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: the right to be calling for whatever the funk they're doing, 1029 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: but it's but it's like just a bridge slightly too 1030 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: far for democratic democratic leadership to be like they are 1031 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: attempting at coup. I don't know, I don't care what 1032 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: they want to call it. This is straight horse shit. 1033 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: But it's more just like, well, we'll let the courts 1034 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: handling him. That was a nice try. Um, finally, I 1035 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about a story that would have I 1036 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: don't know it's it seems like it's way too important 1037 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: to cover in three minutes, which we're going to try 1038 01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 1: and do. But the former head of Israel's uh what 1039 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: what's his official title? He ran and he ran into program. 1040 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: He was the program. Like there's no, he's not some 1041 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: guy with a cool Twitter handle that you know bb 1042 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: Net and Yahoo like Fox with It's like, you know, 1043 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: he's he's I think he was running it from like 1044 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: the eighties to like or something like that. And but 1045 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: for a context, he's saying, if I had come up 1046 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: with what I'm saying today five years ago, and we'll 1047 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: get to what he's saying, I would have been hospitalized. 1048 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Wherever I've gone with this, in academia, they've said the 1049 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: man has lost his mind. Today they're already talking differently. 1050 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: I have nothing to lose. I've received my degrees and awards. 1051 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm respecting universities abroad where the trend is also changing. 1052 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: That trend he says that, uh, we have made alien contact, 1053 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 1: the US government and Israel in particular, that we are 1054 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 1: in communication and in fact, in a legal contract with 1055 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: the extraterrestrials. Um. I mean, I'm glad of one of 1056 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: his quotes. I'm glad that the Aliens respect contract law. 1057 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: That's a good sign. He said, quote, there's an agreement 1058 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: between the US government and the Aliens. They signed a 1059 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: contract with us to do experiments here. They too are 1060 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: researching and trying to understand the whole fabric of the universe, 1061 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: and they want us as helpers. Um. I I just 1062 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: the signed a contract is where it goes a little 1063 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: too far. I was on board agreement maybe you know 1064 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: contract where they were they redlining? Did they get the 1065 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 1: lawyers involved? Are the Are the Aliens their own legal counsel? 1066 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: They're like, sorry, this this is actually a poison pill 1067 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: in this deal. We will not do it if it's 1068 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: if it's contained in the contract language. I don't, um, 1069 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: but they're saying one of the first hubs of cooperation 1070 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: is a base on Mars, where, by the way, astronauts 1071 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: have already set foot, American astronauts, and the basis underground. 1072 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 1: That's why you can't see it. I love Aliens. Two allions. 1073 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: My uncle has a ten telescope in New Hampshire and 1074 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: he was showing me Jupiter up close. I've I've said 1075 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: this before, I'll say it again. If I have a family, 1076 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: six kids, I need to be there for my family, 1077 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: and aliens come to me and say, hey, we'll take 1078 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: you with us. You can never come back here see 1079 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 1: anybody again, but you'll get to see the galaxy for 1080 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 1: what it is. I'd be like, let's go. I would go, okay, 1081 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: I want to prolog with that. But I will say 1082 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: this guy lost me when he plugged his book. He's 1083 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: coming out, he's got coming out, and that's where he 1084 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 1: lost me. You know, I know it. And even in 1085 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 1: a way though it's like you don't want this guy's 1086 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: book though, you know, even like as a thing off, 1087 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: like if he was talking that real ship, he's like, 1088 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's so complex, like to say it used 1089 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: the word agreement would completely betray the forms of communication 1090 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: these life forms used. I would be like, whoa, okay, 1091 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: But when you're treating it like a fucking like just 1092 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: you know a funny comedy film where they was like, hey, 1093 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 1: let's collab on some research, fam like okay, and then 1094 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: even like his his explanation, it's like what what, where 1095 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 1: y'all been, Where the aliens been? What's going on? He 1096 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 1: mentioned Trump in there too. Yeah, he did say that 1097 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Trump was on the verge of revealing all of this 1098 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: path Aliens in the Galactic Federation, which I think is 1099 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: literally a term from Star Trek, but maybe not. Aliens 1100 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: and the Galactic Federation are saying, wait, let everyone calm 1101 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: down first. They they don't want to start mass hysteria. 1102 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 1: They want to first make us saying and understanding. So 1103 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: here's why, Like, obviously I want to believe, and I'm 1104 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 1: going to always error on the side of yeah, this 1105 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 1: could be possible. The thing about the contract. So one 1106 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: of my theories on aliens is that they might end 1107 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 1: up being a lot more similar to us than we 1108 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: expect them to be because of parallel evolution and the 1109 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: fact that like when you look in Australia at like 1110 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: the wildlife that evolved there, and it like looks almost 1111 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 1: identical to wildlife that evolved independently in the US. It's 1112 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: like there, when you have the conditions of life in 1113 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: two different, seemingly different places, like they do end up 1114 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 1: cohering similarly. So I don't know, like, maybe maybe that 1115 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: is something that eventually always comes up and when when 1116 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: there's a civilization that has evolved to a certain point, 1117 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 1: maybe they're like, well, you gotta have contracts, man, I 1118 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 1: mean otherwise and then nothing separates us from the single 1119 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: cell to organisms. Please, I didn't come all this way 1120 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: to not have the legal paperwork and to protect my 1121 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: interests in this agreement, Earthling. But I'll so just like 1122 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 1: picturing the process of getting from respected in academic circles 1123 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: has this hugely powerful uh career, and now what makes 1124 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,600 Speaker 1: like just selling books just being like yeah, like it 1125 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,600 Speaker 1: just seems I don't know, I have I have a 1126 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:28,879 Speaker 1: hard time imagining that evolution, like unless he was always 1127 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 1: all along, like had some suspicion that there was alien contact, 1128 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 1: Like he just given his mouth shut because it's going 1129 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: to cost him his job all the time. They're like, dude, 1130 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 1: you gotta knock that shut off, like like we're serious 1131 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 1: scientists and he's just using like the same ship that 1132 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: UFO heads in the US used, Like I'm just saying 1133 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: roswell though, dog look at this viral video, Dude, what 1134 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 1: about that beam of light above tel Aviva just shot 1135 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 1: up in the sky? What was that? I have it 1136 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 1: from multiple angles. It's like that was doctored. We already 1137 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 1: talked about this doctor alright, it did a great job 1138 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: on it, you know, yeah, no, I mean it looks 1139 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: like it looks like I wonder if to like yeah, 1140 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: like at a certain point, you know, this is like 1141 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: his like breaking bad like kind of thing was like, 1142 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: fuck it, I got nothing on this alien ship and 1143 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: get a book deal and get my little check. So 1144 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: I can, you know, just buy my retirement cabin and 1145 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,680 Speaker 1: live life comfortably because my government pension is running out. 1146 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: So I gotta exploit that position to say some wild 1147 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: alien ship. I don't know that would be a smart 1148 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: move though, because instantly right like it's a it's this 1149 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 1: has been a global headline because of because of the 1150 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: position he helped. So it's like just if so if 1151 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: you just have that former title to give you any authority, 1152 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: keep in mind, anybody in any position with authority, you 1153 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: can do this. Come out with some outlanders ship. That 1154 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: would just be like up end the general accepted knowledge 1155 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: of your industry, and people like what the formerhead of 1156 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: what said? What but this huh? And then people will 1157 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 1: laugh you out, but you'll get your little shine. Yeah. 1158 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: So you're you're officially on this guy's uh lost it 1159 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: or is just trying to sell books ship, I don't know. 1160 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean I like the energy. I love I love 1161 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 1: the energy of someone who's gonna like completely change the 1162 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 1: game on us like this and be like, no, y'all 1163 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,799 Speaker 1: not listening. They have signed fucking contracts, okay. And Trump 1164 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 1: almost sucked it all up. And then the aliens were like, nah, 1165 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: found just dead that for a second because the people 1166 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: are not ready for us to do our grand reveal. 1167 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: So if you could just sit on that, we would 1168 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 1: appreciate that. And Donald Trump was like bet, and you 1169 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: know that's basically who our president is. He respects the 1170 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, agency of these aliens to themselves. I just 1171 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: love it. It's like it's also tough down too, because 1172 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: we're we're like having this conversation in society right now 1173 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: about believing the scientists and buying any of these people. 1174 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy is an academic, super respected. He 1175 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: ran their space program, So this is somebody who we 1176 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: should buy into, right, Like we should say like I 1177 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 1: need like for something like this. It's like, yo, you 1178 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 1: need I need you to bring another few friends with you. 1179 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: The ratios aren't good here for a thing like this, 1180 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: I need better ratios. I need like five other people 1181 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: who like y'all can actually be like yo, yo, Okay, 1182 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,080 Speaker 1: we're not going to tell y'all, but that one mission 1183 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: look into that, and then I would be like, oh oh, 1184 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 1: but if the aliens are out there trying to get 1185 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: us to be more reasonable, you know, I'm just saying, 1186 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 1: where did this vaccine come from? It's all of a 1187 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 1: sudden we got a vaccine this accurate or effective. Come on, dude, 1188 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 1: you think they aliens didn't give that to us? What then? 1189 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Did you think I was talking about Operation Warp Speed. 1190 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,600 Speaker 1: I was on the fucking USS Enterprise, motherfucker secure in 1191 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the vaccine. There's no way he was down. I was 1192 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: in the hospital. I was doing deals in fucking zebulon 1193 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: three six nine das Z. There's no way he'd be 1194 01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 1: able to uh not brag about that ship I know, 1195 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 1: actually brokering this deal right, because he's gonna do. We've 1196 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: heard about his negotiating tactics. He's gonna be in. There's like, 1197 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 1: nice to meet you alien people. I'm surprisingly calm in 1198 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 1: this negotiation, but I just want to shut up by 1199 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: saying fuck you and he walks out. That's right, That's right. Ship. 1200 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,559 Speaker 1: That is the main thing that keeps me from believing 1201 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: this is the idea that Trump would be able to, 1202 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, put his own behind the greater good of 1203 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 1: the species relationship to our alien leaders. Um yeah, well, uh, 1204 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 1: stay tuned, I guess also stay tuned to what Trump 1205 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 1: has to say when he's out of office. Connor, it 1206 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 1: has been fun having you, ma'am. Where can people uh 1207 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: find you and follow you? Hey? Twitter or Instagram. I'm 1208 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 1: not super involved in Twitter, so it's you do need 1209 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: to follow me on Twitter. I'll just make my random 1210 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: sports tweets that are useless. You can you can follow 1211 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 1: me on Instagram at Connor del Rio dude. And you 1212 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 1: can follow me on I make Actually I know, you know, 1213 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 1: people got this idea about TikTok, but I make some 1214 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: pretty uh, I make cool TikTok's. I actually put quite 1215 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 1: the amount of effort into them. You can follow me 1216 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 1: onto horror movies in there yeah a little Yeah. I 1217 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: like to have fun on there and actually try to 1218 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: do some things. Um, so you can follow me on 1219 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 1: TikTok as well. And uh, you can also if it's 1220 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 1: safe to do so. I've got a movie called Half 1221 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Brothers with Focus Features in Universal in theaters right now 1222 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,720 Speaker 1: where it's safe to do so. It will also be 1223 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 1: available on p v O D at home later this 1224 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 1: month as well. Yeah. Yeah, uh. And is there tweet 1225 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 1: or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? 1226 01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always. I don't know if you guys 1227 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,679 Speaker 1: are familiar with Moses Storm. I always really enjoy his tweets. 1228 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 1: He's a stand up comedian in l A very very funny, 1229 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,640 Speaker 1: very very talented guy. Uh said when l A was 1230 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 1: first starting this lockdown, he said l A lockdown in quotes, 1231 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 1: you can't go anywhere but anywhere. Yeah, that did kind 1232 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 1: of seem that way when they were first talking about it. 1233 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 1: You know parking signs. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's one. 1234 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 1: It stuck with me. Yeah, he's a very funny guy. 1235 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,439 Speaker 1: People should follow him. Very funny. Miles. Where can people 1236 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram, Miles 1237 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 1: of Gray. Also other podcast for twenty Day Fiance Talking 1238 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 1: ninety Day Fiance and um, this okay, I'm sorry this 1239 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: tweet is is a little vulgar you know a little 1240 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,560 Speaker 1: n S f W, but I gotta say it's a 1241 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 1: it's a cum joke, so brace your ears, y'all. Uh. 1242 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 1: It's from Stacy at Cute Little Snaces. It's just using 1243 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 1: heart emoji. Just got a lovely d M from a 1244 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 1: man saying I'd look way hotter with come on my face, 1245 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 1: which really got me thinking. So question for the guys, 1246 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 1: you're in a bar and there's two equally attractive unaccompanied women, 1247 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 1: one with come on her face and one without, which 1248 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: do you go for? That's a great question. And then 1249 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,600 Speaker 1: it's the chin rub emoji with another heart beautifully constructed. 1250 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Um to check her out? Um uh? At Almond tittiesh tweeted, 1251 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 1: tweeted rock Bottom has kind of lit all my homies 1252 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: down here with me, which I liked. Uh. J Murph tweeted, 1253 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 1: surely not everything is on this bagel uh And at 1254 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: driving Me. Maddie tweeted, just because you think you're trash 1255 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you don't do great things. That's why it's 1256 01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 1: a garbage can, not a garbage can't. Very clever. You 1257 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You 1258 01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at 1259 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan 1260 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 1: page on a website Daily zi geist dot com where 1261 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link 1262 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 1: off to the informage that we talked about in today's episode, 1263 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 1: as well as the song we ride out on Miles? 1264 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 1: What are we riding out on? Two Bay? This is 1265 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 1: a track from Ruth Then r U T h V 1266 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 1: E n uh. And this is an artist out of 1267 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 1: London who's just doing like throwback R and eighties R 1268 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 1: and B style, but like from the year. So if 1269 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: you like got down to any you know, you love 1270 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,640 Speaker 1: that eighties R and B sound, you're gonna like the 1271 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 1: work of Ruth Then. But it's also like funny because 1272 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,639 Speaker 1: his like Londoner accent is so strong that it comes 1273 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: out in some words and you're used to hearing like 1274 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 1: more like American, like Black English saying certain words and 1275 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: then suddenly yet laka in it or whatever of some 1276 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,719 Speaker 1: kind of idiom or something like that. But the track 1277 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,560 Speaker 1: of goals it's called Evil and it's I don't know, 1278 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 1: it's like just one of those things. It's it's it's 1279 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 1: remarkably nostalgic but also future looking, so we like that. 1280 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna ride out on that. The Daily 1281 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 1: zis the production of I Heart Radio for More podcast. 1282 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: For my heart radio, visit the heart radio app, Apple podcast, 1283 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is 1284 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 1: going to do it for this morning. We're back this 1285 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk 1286 01:17:29,040 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 1: to you then bye. Byember. The day au