1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show our number two and I swear 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Clay and I today we were talking about how we're 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna do a variety of stories today. We're 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: gonna do everything we can to not just focus in 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: on this document situation. But the news is breaking right now. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: All the House Democrats and uh and everybody else are 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: jumping on this one right away. Oh boy, and they've 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: got they found classified documents at Pence's house. And you know, 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: at some point when you have many of the most 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: recent and most senior members of the government, to include 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: presidents and vice presidents in classified document trouble, it starts 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: to feel like maybe we need to revisit, certainly the 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: far more severe punishments that are given out to underlings 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: and the National Security Apparatus, people like I used to be. 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: I used to be one of them, and and act 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: like every document that has classified stamped on it is 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: you got the nuclear codes and we're all going to 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: die if this gets into the wrong hands. I think 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe this could be a moment where we have some perspective, 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: but apart from the legality of this, and we've got 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy joining us to talk about about that, I 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: also think this is Clay. The biggest moment here is 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: the shifts that are occurring politically that will affect the 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: country and its future as a result of this, you know, 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: tempest in a classified teapot right, as a result of 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff that's going on, you have I think 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: now Donald Trump is no longer in any realistic jeopardy 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: from the whole moralago documents in the FBI rate. We 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 1: should remember it because it was abusive. We should remember 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: it because each showed the double standard that existed even 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: before this, and the heavy handedness and the weaponization of 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: the DOJ under a Democrat president like Biden against his 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: chief rival. I mean, they're really not even trying to 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: hide this stuff. But I think it takes Trump out 37 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: of any possible jeopardy for that, and I agree with you, 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: by the way, I think this also moves everything toward 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: they can't prosecute Trump for anything anymore, which but I 40 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: want to hear your take on that. I think that 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden, this weakens him politically doesn't take him 42 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: out of the game politically, but certainly has spurred I 43 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: think after the mid terms it was one hundred percent 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Biden running again, and now the powers that be behind 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the scenes of the Democrat apparatus are going to be 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: having a conversation, is it Joe? And then this Pence. 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: The latest one is that Pence had classified documents at 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: his home in Indiana and this is confirmed now, you know, 49 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: I think Mike Pence did. He basically had already said 50 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: he was going to run for president, right. I think 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: this makes it harder for him, a lot harder for 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: him because to your point in the last hour, he's 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be the guy who I look. You can 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: say this is unfair to hold anyone the standard, but 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be the guy who is you know, 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: the voice scout who never makes a mistake and gets 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: it done the right way. This is not a great 58 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: it's not a great look. So I think he got 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: It's an a direct attack buck on his brand. There's 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: a great story I read a while back. Remember Brian 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Williams gets caught for lying about being under fire and 62 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: he basically lost his entire career. Brian Williams said the 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: same things that Hillary Clinton said about being under fire 64 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: when he was in Iraq, and it didn't even impact 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. And the reason was, well, people expect Hillary 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Clinton to lie and exaggerate, not tell the truth. They 67 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: don't expect that from Brian Williams. Now we can have 68 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: a huge conversation about why we have a higher standard 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: for true telling from a newscaster than we do from 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: somebody running for the president of the United States. But 71 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Mike Pence's brand is I'm above reproach, I am the 72 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: moral authority. The one thing UK he doesn't have a 73 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: lot of sizzle, but the one thing Mike Pence would 74 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: sell is you can trust me. I'm not gonna let 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: you down. It's why when Bill Clinton had trying to 76 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: see what phrase I can use got involved in the 77 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: situation with Monica Lewinsky, most people were like, yeah, I 78 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: can see that, And frankly, it's why I think the 79 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: Trump allegations involving you know, porn stars and all these 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: different women. People were like, yeah, the guy's been married 81 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: three times, he's a celebrity, He's never seemed like he 82 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: was a paragon of virtue. So Trump and Clinton I 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: don't think those scandals ever really attached themselves because they 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: didn't directly attack our perception. This, for Mike Pence is 85 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: a direct attack on what people think of him. And also, Buck, 86 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: there's audio of Mike Pence, just like there was audio 87 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden saying in the wake of the Mari 88 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: Lago raid, I could never imagine how anyone could have 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: classified documents. Let's play this interview from Mike Pennce. Much 90 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: like with Joe Biden, everybody was like, Oh, there's no 91 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: way this could ever happen. What is Donald Trump thinking? 92 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: And then they also have their own classified documents scandal. Listen, 93 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: you take any classified documents with you from the White House? 94 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: I did not. Do you see any reason for anyone 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: to take classified documents with them leaving the White House? Well, 96 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: there'd be no reason to have classified documents, particularly if 97 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: they were in an unprotected area. Okay, so he directly 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: contradicted himself. Now I think this was accidental, probably just 99 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: packing up boxes. They'd gone back through them, they found them. 100 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: But it makes me think that everybody has classified documents, Buck, 101 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: which is amazing because if you're in your first week 102 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: at the CIA or I'm sure same thing for military folks, 103 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: you know, and when you're getting your clearance. Not everybody 104 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: in the military has a clearance, but and there's very 105 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: different levels of clearances. Some of the intel agencies you 106 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: have to have above above a top secret level clearance 107 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: for you to just be you know, be able to 108 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: be working there. But you're this is treated with with 109 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: tremendous severity for everybody. And yet now we're seeing that 110 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: all the people that are supposed to be at the 111 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: very top of the national security food chain are incapable 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: of keeping classified documents out of their homes. I mean, 113 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: I also kind of wonder here, you know, it's not 114 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: like they would know if somebody. I'm surprised they wouldn't 115 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: just destroy these things, you know, honestly, which I know 116 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: people say, oh, that's illegal whatever. Yeah, yeah, but you know, 117 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: the documents that you find in your garage, you could 118 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: throw them in the fireplace. Nobody would ever know. So 119 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: why is this? I think they just must have no 120 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: idea where these things could even be, which to me 121 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: goes to an even greater level of carelessness, if that 122 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: makes sense, Like, no, that's not going to ask you, 123 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: is it worst? And the people out there listening Trump 124 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: admit that he had classified documents. He said he had 125 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: declassified them, but he knew that he had them, and 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: he knew where they were, and the dispute was over 127 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: whether he had the right to retain possession of them 128 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: to refresh. For everybody out there, is that worse or 129 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: is it worse to accidentally end up with classified documents 130 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: in your possession? I actually think the accidental you know, 131 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: the intent isn't there, but it speaks to not knowing 132 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: that you have them, as opposed to a dispute over 133 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: whether or not you have the presidential authority to have 134 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: them or not. Does that make sense. I think it's 135 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: really kind of an intriguing question. Yes. Well, there's also 136 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: something that they referred to as a positive control active control. Yeah. So, 137 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: for example, if I'm going from a Langley, which you 138 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: know is the CIA headquarters, which I think they renamed 139 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: like the George HW. Bush Center for Intelligence or something. 140 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: There's some new name for it, but you know, Langley 141 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: is what all the cool kids call it. If you're 142 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: leaving Langley, um, by the way, name for the estate 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: that used to be there. And there's actually some tie 144 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: in to the family of Robert E. Lee in terms 145 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: of ownership of that estate. I forget exactly what it is. 146 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to cancel the CIA. Now, well, Langley, 147 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, the whole Langley thing. I don't know that name. Um. 148 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: But if you went from Langley to the White House 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: and you know you have these documents, Let's say you 150 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: know you they're supposed to be a way you cut, 151 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: you actually convey them, you actually move them, um between places, 152 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: and you were to go outside of that conveyance, and 153 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: let's say you went into like a dunkin Donuts, you realize, oh, 154 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: I actually had a top secret document that I just 155 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: stuffed in my jacket pocket. Well, that's not the way 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be handled, and that's a that's a 157 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: security issue. Obviously you're not supposed to have some But 158 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: you could say I had positive control, meaning there was 159 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: never a moment that I didn't know where it was 160 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: and that it wasn't in my possession. And what we're 161 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: seeing with these guys is it's not because this comes 162 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: up with for example, Clay, I accidentally brought classified documents home. 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: If you bring them home and you realize, oh my god, 164 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: it's been in my briefcase this whole time. You bring 165 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: it back, that's positive control. That's a security violation. Yeah. 166 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: But if you bring it home and it ends up, 167 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: you know, in a box with some old newspaper clippings 168 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: and next to some baseball cards in the garage, and 169 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: you've had people coming and going over the course of 170 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: six years, that's not positive control. That's a whole other 171 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: level of risk of exposure of the documents. So that's 172 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: why what you're seeing with these individuals didn't even know 173 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: we'll get classified hanging out in their homes. It's it's dude, 174 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: it's it's bad news. It's really not go to your point. 175 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: The government has no idea that they have this. So 176 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: my thought also is how important are these documents in general? Right? 177 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean if they I mean you handled classified documents, 178 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: what percentage of them would you say, if suddenly someone 179 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: had seen them, it would have been a you'd have 180 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: been like an it would been an oh crap moment, 181 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: like to have that be visible, right, Like in other words, 182 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: all classified is not created equal. What are the odds 183 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: that if we saw the twelve documents that Mike Penns 184 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: has that we would even blink about. I mean, just 185 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: in my rough estimate, personal opinion back of the Napkin math, 186 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: I'd say thirty percent of what I saw that was 187 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: classified you could understand why you would really need to 188 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: protect it at some level. And you know, maybe five 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: to ten percent you were like this, really, you know, 190 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: this is this big deal. This this being published or 191 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: certainly getting out to the enemy would be a big deal. 192 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: But if I'm a solid majority of it, you're like, well, 193 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because because people don't even understand 194 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot of it is a lot of things can 195 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: be classified that are assessments, opinions of thoughts of and 196 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: that can be classified based upon source derivation. Right, but 197 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people think a lot of things. 198 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: So people, how many classified pieces of paper do you 199 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: think the average vice president would see in a day. 200 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: It's like territ like, I mean, I just have no 201 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: clue how voluminous the amount of paperwork that you would 202 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: see would be. That was clue. These individuals have staffs 203 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: and and have either so when when classified documents going, 204 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean I did two Oval Office deep dive briefings 205 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: for the intelligence community for President H. W. Bush, and 206 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: it was all very controlled and very you know those 207 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: documents that's for the PDB, the Presidential Daily Briefing. So 208 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: I was the lead briefer in a couple of Presidential 209 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Daily Briefings during the Iraq War, and those documents are 210 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: at that level of sensitivity. There's a greater sort of 211 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: knowledge and tracking of them where they are, of where 212 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: they are in thing else. But I mean, you can 213 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: go into there are a law enforcement off their law enforcement, 214 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: even local law enforcement like the NYPD. There'll be people 215 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: who have classified some level of classified access, much lower 216 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: level than you would say the CIA or the Pentagon, 217 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: And so there's document hand link procedures in place for that, right, 218 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: So it really depends. But yeah, there's billions of sheets 219 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: of paper that the government has. There are millions of 220 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: people they estimate, I don't even know what the number 221 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: is with either have or have had a clearance, And 222 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: there are billions of pieces of paper with classified on 223 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: it floating around there. So yeah, can we keep it all? 224 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: Can we keep track of it all? Well? I mean 225 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: there's can we keep track of it all? As a 226 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: general concept play, and then there's hey, when you're the 227 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: vice president, can you not bring this stuff home, like 228 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: it's a hardy boys novel that you're reading and you're 229 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: just going to kind of leave it dog geared next 230 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: to the pool. I think that's fair. I think you 231 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: can have that level of expectation. 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I think one the 270 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: idea that you're going to knock out Trump via charges 271 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: not only for the confidential document but also for January sixth, 272 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: are effectively out the window. I was of the opinion 273 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: that Trump was going to be charged prior to the 274 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Biden classified documents. Buck, I mean, I think, I think 275 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: this changes what was going to happen. Yes, yeah, I 276 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: think the Biden classified documents changes that. I also think 277 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: it makes it more likely that Biden gets a challenger. Now, 278 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's Eric Adams, maybe it's Joe Mansion. Who exactly 279 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: that challenger will end up being. I'm not sure there 280 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: will be an upstart, And this would be I believe, 281 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: the first challenger for an incumbent president since nineteen ninety 282 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: two in terms of someone who would really try to 283 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: go knock the president out in the primary. So it 284 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: is a weakness of the president if he is not 285 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: able to keep his own party from running against him, 286 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: given the fact that he has incumbency. So I would say, 287 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: to me, these are the two biggest impacts of the 288 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: classified document scandal at this point. I also just presume 289 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: that everybody's got classified documents. You know, you got Hillary, 290 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you got Pens, you got Trump, you got Biden. I 291 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: would bet that there's Obama classified documents out there. I 292 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: would bet if he still has all his papers, that 293 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: George W. Bush might have him. I mean, based on 294 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: the prevalence of this, I just find it hard to 295 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: believe there's not a general lack of a carefulness being paid. 296 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: And also it just to me, probably buck speaks to 297 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: the voluminous nature of the papers that they were moving. 298 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: When the White House, when you're the vice president or 299 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: the president, you're just throwing stuff in bags and boxes. 300 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a really serious process when 301 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: you're leaving like that. It may have to change as 302 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: a result of all. Well, I think there's a recognition 303 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: that just having a bunch of people show up like 304 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: they're you know, moving the couch and the TV to 305 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: somewhere else is not sufficient for security purposes. I gotta 306 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: say this, This is getting to the point though, where 307 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: there's such a it has crossed a line into absurdity, 308 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: and I think for a lot of people that then 309 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: just means they're gonna want to move past this. So 310 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that Trump benefits mightily from this. 311 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: From the circumstance, I think that Biden is, you know, 312 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: it's just still no one really expects more from Biden. 313 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of this. No one 314 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: surprised that he's a buffoom when it comes to classified documents. 315 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: So I don't think it really changes all that much 316 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: for Biden, and I think it maybe makes things a 317 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: little bit harder for from Mike Pence right now. But 318 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: I also don't see this story. I don't see that. 319 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: I keep saying, Okay, I think we're there. There might 320 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: be another batch or two found among these or some 321 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: other individuals of note, But either way, I think the 322 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: public will lose interest in this over time. Is my 323 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: sense could be wrong. Yeah, I think you're right. I 324 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: think it's a huge win for Trump, and I think 325 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: it's an issue for Biden, and I don't think it's 326 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: going away in terms of for Biden, whereas for Trump, 327 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: I think it's basically over. 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Fascinating to see what stories the media focuses 346 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: on day in and day out, because it tells you 347 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: so much about their worldview or their politics in a 348 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: whole range of ways, and certainly in the aftermath of 349 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: a horrific mass shooting, whether they decide that this story 350 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: deserves wall to wall coverage is a political call to 351 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: action and is something that should be used to shame 352 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: their political opponents, irrespective of really what the facts are 353 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: of the situation. That is something that we see happening 354 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: time and time again. I bring it up because right now, 355 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Clai and I talked to you yesterday about the shooting 356 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: that occurred over the weekend at a dance hall where 357 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: you had ten people who were murdered by this guy 358 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: who was just a disgruntled, disgruntled, deeply unhappy person who 359 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: just turned to the worst kind of evil, killed ten 360 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: people and was going to kill more. He moved to 361 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: a second location. I actually shared this clip on Twitter. 362 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: It's it's remarkable. Brandon Si was on scene there and 363 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: he was the individual, the hero who this guy is reloading. Now. 364 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people think, oh I would 365 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: have done this too. A lot of people would freeze. 366 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: You've got somebody who has I think it's been repeatedly 367 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: described as a pistol, but it's or rather as an 368 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: assault rifle in the media, but it's really a pistol 369 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: with a folding stock, I think. But either way it's 370 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: it's illegal under technically, a pistol of the folding stock 371 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: illegal under California law. This guy, Brandon Si, essentially rushed 372 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: the shooter, who you can, I think safely assume otherwise 373 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: would have been able to kill another ten, fifteen, twenty 374 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: people who were helpless, defenseless at this So this guy 375 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: saved a lot of lives. But that shooting occurred over 376 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: the weekend, and as we know, the Democrats immediately jumped 377 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: into the oh, this is a hate crime. And I 378 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: don't just mean in general, Democrats, top legislators, senators, Democrats 379 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: associated closely with the Bide administration in the White House. 380 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: There was another shooting over the last few days. Seven people. 381 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Seven people were killed in this shooting. And this shooting 382 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: also involved an Asian American elderly a person, yeah, a 383 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: person of Asian descent, a Chinese agricultural laborer sixty seven 384 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: years old, so he's almost a senior citizen, who was 385 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: in the San Francisco area half Moon Bay, went into 386 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: his work facility and just started murdering people. Shot seven 387 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: people in cold blood. Now that a seventy two hours 388 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: after the other individual who actually killed eleven people, excuse me, 389 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: one of them additionally succumbed to injuries. I'll kill the 390 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: eleven people at a lunar New Year's celebration in Monterey Park, 391 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: which is near Los Angeles. Two major mass shootings by 392 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: two Asian assailants, one of whom already you believe committed 393 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: suicide in the car right during the standoffs, so he 394 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: won't face any trial. But two shootings mass shootings Asian assailants, 395 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: and the media interest on this is minimal because it's 396 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: not an opportunity to try to find some tie into 397 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: Trump and MAGA and white supremacy and all this other stuff. 398 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: And one of the one of the big lives Clay 399 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: the media pushes about shooting a mass shootings, in particular 400 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: mass shootings of three or more people, is that this 401 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: is the it's disgruntled white males who do this. This 402 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: is what you'll always hear. It's actually not true. It's 403 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: not true because if you look at the data, what 404 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: you see is that when it comes to mass shootings, 405 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the ethnicity of the shooter is essentially totally in line 406 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: with their percentage of the population. So mass shooters are 407 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: spread evenly among all they're all male, but among all 408 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: demographics white, Hispanic, Black, Asian. But yet the media likes 409 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: to push this storyline of it's you know, angry white 410 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: males or you know, white supremacists who are the ones 411 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: who are doing all of this, which I think is 412 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: why they're not really talking about. Once again, they two 413 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: mass shootings, seventeen or eighteen people killed. You would think 414 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: like this would be wall to wall coverage. No, it 415 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: vanishes if it's not a white guy. And this is 416 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: the this is the truth. I mean, all of you 417 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: out there listening know that if there isn't an opportunity 418 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: to tie this into white supremacy or or to far 419 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: right extremist culture, then the story just automost automatically vanishes. 420 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: And the one that is maybe the most emblematic of 421 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: this to me, buck is the shooting that happened in 422 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Colorado at Boulder. Remember, they thought that that was a 423 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: white guy, just based on pictures that came out of 424 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: a guy who looked like he was white in terms 425 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: of you could see his skin, and then it ended 426 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: up being that he was Middle Eastern, and the story 427 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: almost immediately vanished. So they initially said, oh, look, another 428 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: crazy white guy goes in and kills a bunch of 429 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: people in Boulder, Colorado, and you could actually track the 430 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: story and how much attention it was getting, and then 431 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: as soon as it came out that he was of 432 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Middle Eastern descent, the story vanished and a lot of 433 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: you probably haven't heard anything about that shooting in Colorado since. Yeah, 434 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: there is something deeply disturbing when you look at when 435 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: you really dive into it, when you pay attention to it. 436 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: The Democrat liberal mind has an obsession with the denigration 437 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: of whiteness all the time, and particularly from white liberals. 438 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: They this is this is a a false virtue signaling 439 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: fixation that they have with how the evils of whiteness. 440 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: And you see this as it is evidenced by media 441 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: coverage of these these mass shootings we're talking about. We 442 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: all know if, the IF, the IF, the mash. Instead 443 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: of saying there are evil people and deeply violently mentally 444 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: ill people who are spread through all populations, which is true, 445 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: and understanding that there are going to be people that 446 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: from from all different ethnic groups that are mass shooters 447 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: that's going to happen, which is what the data all shows. 448 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: Instead of looking honestly at that issue because there's no 449 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: political advantage in it, they try to skew the issue 450 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: toward all mass shooters. You see this by the way, 451 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they'll even be blue check commentators. There's a 452 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: mass shooter and the guy's white. They say, oh, it's 453 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: always a white mass shoot It's just not true. Yeah, 454 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: but this is this is one of the lies that 455 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: they believe and one of the lies that they repeat. 456 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, a lot of people you and I make 457 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: a living knowing what actually happens and what the data 458 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: actually is. A lot of people see, oh, okay, well 459 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: CNN says, you know, another another white, you know, male shooter, 460 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: and this is all the mass shooters or white males. 461 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: It's not It's not reality. And that's why I think, 462 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, you have to remember the mindset during the 463 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: War on Terror era, we used to call the g 464 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: WATT the Global War on Terror, and then they try 465 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: to get rid of that term. The Obama administration came 466 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: in and they wanted to call this is the fight 467 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: against al Qaeda, and you know later ISIS and all 468 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: this stuff. They wanted to call it something like Overseas 469 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Continuency Operations against Violent Radical Extremism. I'm not kidding. It 470 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: was actually something that was so long. I remember sitting 471 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: in Langley when when the obamaministration came in and we're 472 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: all laughing our asses off because it was We're like, 473 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: that's this is ridiculous. This is an encyclopedia. This isn't 474 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: a you know, an operation discussion. But I remember there 475 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: was there was a belief that to service the narrative 476 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: of oh, we're so scared about Islamophobia, they would always 477 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: downplay when there was a terrorist incident. You know, oh, 478 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know if this person is 479 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: a Muslim, we don't know what their belief system is, 480 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: and they would do this and we all kind of knew, 481 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Like usually the guy screaming a lot of walk barns 482 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: on video and he's shooting something up, you kind of 483 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: know right away. I think there's a similar mentality among 484 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the democratic line media now, which is, 485 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: let's not focus too much on the mass shot, on 486 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: any mass shooting that doesn't evolve a white perpetrator, because 487 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: we have to tackle the problem of white male mass 488 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: shooters because they're the ones that do it all the time. 489 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: It's incongruent. It's what's the phrase, I'm dre cognitive dissonance. Yeah, 490 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: they can't handle it and just pay attention to this. 491 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we had the Walmart shooter, was a black 492 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: guy right in Virginia, went in shot up the place. 493 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: We had also in Virginia, in the same way that 494 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: we have the double Asian shooter. We had the former 495 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: football player at the University of Virginia who went and 496 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: shot several of his teammates. Two black mass shootings in 497 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: Virginia in like short concert. Now you've got two Asian 498 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: mass shooting in short concert. The stories will vanish, but 499 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: you still hear a lot of talk about the Buffalo shooting. Right, 500 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: racist white guy goes into a black supermarket, kills people there, 501 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: and they choose which stories to emphasize. To your point, 502 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: first of all mass shootings, if we eliminated every mass shooting, 503 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: and I think this is important, ninety eight percent of 504 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: murders would still be happening. So we have this idea 505 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: out there that mass shooting is a huge part of 506 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the national murder rate. It's actually the case that if 507 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: we eliminated them, forty nine out of fifty murders still 508 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: be happening in this country. You know that's also true 509 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: A part of an issue It's also true about modern 510 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: sporting rifles aka assault rifles. You bann assault rifles, ninety 511 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: eight percent of shooting still happen. Yeah, but they're you know, 512 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: they're obsessed with you know why because they view gun control. Yes, 513 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: ultimately they want to stop, they want to eliminate the 514 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: final stop gap against tyranny to the founding fathers and 515 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: shrine of the Constitution. But every call by a Democrat 516 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: for gun control in some way is meant to be 517 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: a thumb in the eye of a white male Republican, 518 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: AAR fifteen owner. And that's why Libs in Brooklyn and 519 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Santa Monica and Chicago and we're in DC, they get 520 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: so excited about it because it's meant to be c somehow. 521 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: You a law abiding gun owner who lives in Texas 522 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: and has you know, seven a R fifteens and loves 523 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: to go to the range, you're the problem. It's a 524 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: neuroses that they have to do this. They want to 525 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: poke those people in the chest and blame them for 526 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: mass shootings by lunatics that have nothing to do with 527 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: those individuals. But that's it's just meant to be a 528 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: political cudgel. That's how the exception to this rule, Buck 529 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: that I would point to is the shooting in Texas 530 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: and the school shooting is such a unique circumstance. The 531 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Hispanic shooter there they covered obviously, you vil Day got 532 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: a massive amount of attention because of who the victims 533 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: were and where that shooting occurred. But otherwise the focal 534 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: point is always on white guys. That was also on 535 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: the list of the biggest police failures of all time, 536 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, up there with the FBI response to Waco. 537 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Up there. You know, people talk about Ruby Ridge and 538 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Waco and uval Day is a place of abject law 539 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: enforcement failure, and you know, you would hope that there'd 540 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: be important lessons learned from it, if that's possible for you, 541 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: for future law enforcement generations. 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So 577 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: we're going to dive in with him on what he 578 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: thinks of the Biden classified document scandal, what about today's 579 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Mike Pence revelations, Where is all this is headed? We 580 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: will discuss quite a lot with him as we continue 581 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: to power through in the third hour of the program. 582 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Let me take a couple of your calls eight hundred 583 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: two two two eight two. We try to sometimes drop 584 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: in some callers during the course of the program. Let's 585 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: go first to Kenny in Indiana. Kenny, what you got 586 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: for us? Any guys? Thanks for taking a call calling 587 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: from the great who's your state of Indiana? Appreciate your 588 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: analysis on the classified documents? Of course. But I've felt 589 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: all along like this is just their panicking because they 590 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: knew that Republicans were probably going to take the House, 591 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: which they did, and they knew there would probably be 592 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: hardcore investigations to include the Biden crimes family, and I 593 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: think they've been preparing for that all along. They want 594 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: any and all documents that are out there. Of Course, 595 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: they're going to do the stormtrooper approach at Trump's place, 596 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: and they don't need to do that with Terence, but 597 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: with Biden, he's such an idiot. So let me just 598 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: ask you this question. I've here, I heard that theory, 599 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: and I hear it quite a lot, and I'm sure 600 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: you do two buck to me, the number one way 601 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: to draw more scrutiny on yourself. It's just like waving 602 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: a white flag and being like, yeah, I'm an imbecile. 603 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: I have improper documents. What Biden has done, if he 604 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: were trying to cover up his behavior, is actually the 605 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: exact opposite of a cover up. Yes, it keeps getting 606 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: worse for him, it's not over. So why that doesn't 607 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: I don't I don't get that. I don't understand why 608 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: I would understand it. If they went and looked up 609 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: all the documents buck and then they were just like 610 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: they burned them and we never heard about it up. 611 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: This is the opposite of a cover up. It's like 612 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: calling a penalty on yourself in golf that somebody else 613 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: might not have seen. And so it's the opposite of 614 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: trying to rig job. Something some people did notice. I 615 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: said it yesterday. I think it. I think it hit 616 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: home for them. Don't assume there's a Biden, can ye, 617 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: when there's a Biden dumbass, you know, like there it 618 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: is possible that the people in charge really are this 619 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: stupid and sloppy and not necessarily that there's some four 620 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: D chess going on here from whether it's Biden or 621 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: those who want Biden gone or whatever. I don't see 622 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: you know this, This all looks really bad for the 623 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: Biden White House right now. There's there's no way to 624 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: spin that. It's haphazard incompetence more than it's some sort 625 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: of venal plot to try to cover things up. I mean, 626 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: if you were going to try to draw less attention 627 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: to yourself, I can't think of a way that would 628 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 1: draw more attigion to yourself. Then remember five separate acknowledgements 629 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: of classified documents being found. That's just waving your hands 630 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: and trying to draw the attention of authorities. It's like 631 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: if you had a body in the back of your 632 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: car that you were trying to transport. Driving one hundred 633 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: and twenty miles an hour with your blinkers on while 634 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: going down the street would be one of the most 635 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: ways to avoid drawing attention to yourself. Well, we're gonna 636 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: be talking to our friend Annie McCarthy about this in 637 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: just a few moments here on the legal realities of this. Also, 638 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: in the next hour, former ci director, former Secretary of 639 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: State Mike Pompeo will be with us. Mister Pompeo is 640 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: going to talk to us about the Ukraine War. Here's 641 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: something you might want to know. We may be giving 642 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: Abrams tanks to Ukraine soon. I remember when just providing 643 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: them with fighter jets was something that was considered a 644 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: bit too far. Abram's battle tanks. We will discuss whether 645 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: this is a good idea. Are we getting deeper into 646 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: the Ukraine conflict than we bargained for play It's going 647 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: to be quite an hour, no kidding. Plus, we'll probably 648 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: just go ahead and ask Mike Pompeo, Do you have 649 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: classified documents too. We'll see what he says.