WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Tag, You're It 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.520 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:13.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:18.880 Player's laud broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:24.680 the Star. Now your hosts, Darry Church, Danny mccraig, heck 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:33.000 Ma Harrison and knew He Scruggs play sound free Agency season. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.400 Let's run, Let's get it home. Danny mccraig is here, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.440 heck My Harrison is here, Barry Churchy yeah scrugsd alrighty 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:45.040 A lot to get into. Let's start with Mike McCarthy 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.040 going to the combat. He's not gonna asks how we're doing. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:58.920 I'm my boy. Let me get our takeson. Garrett out 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:03.440 of how we doing? Guy, I ain't saying the guy 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.759 he only win this one. And though before we started 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.080 the show, he was already hating, so I already know 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.640 what time. I already know the Spish player hat his ball. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.920 We were just conversating. But because it happened to be 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.720 his city, sound hate but just bro I said. He 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.039 was said it's the greatest city in Texas. Okay, and 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.640 if you don't believe that, that's fine. He said he 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:30.240 was trash who I'm He didn't say, we were talking 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.160 about traffic, that's what we were talking about. Just to 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.720 get ad context. No, No, the context says Okay, I 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.240 said what he said. You know what, I probably went 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.160 the wrong way. You know, I didn't know you know 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.440 enough about what I said. Has he changed his opinion 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.440 yet as I continue talking, No, you haven't convinced him. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.920 That's what you're trying to do. You have failed to 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.440 convince him of that. But I mean, I gat good food, 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.360 good stuff to do. He hyped up the rodeo, hyping 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.280 up all. He's still saying trash. Okay, I've never had 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.600 a bad timing, he bro I've never had a bad time. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.360 If I could afford to roll like that, then it's 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.960 a whole nother deal. When you bc right about that, 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:13.920 it's rare. The last time I was in Houston, I 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.720 think I stayed at the Fairfield in because that was 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.760 all that was. It was out there, spring or whatever. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.240 Because because a super Bowl in Houston, I just say, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:27.640 man out in the wooland he's out of door. Are 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.919 you happy to try to get try to get yourself 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.760 a hotel in the super Bowl? You know, in less 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.440 than two and a half weeks before. That's where you're 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.840 gonna be any in any city gonna be wed So, 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.600 so your argument is based off super Bowl traffic. No no, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.520 wait we didn't. I didn't go to sup but we 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.320 would stayed at the Fairfield in we were in the 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.800 super Bowl. No so, so we were there Saturday night. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.359 You know that was that That traffic, wasn't I mean 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.600 first time that was. That's a whole different a city. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.480 The way a city gets shut down during the super Bowl. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.800 It's a total different deal in Houstons. I mean no, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.040 first off, you go to any super Bowl city prepared 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.400 for traffic to just be totally shut down. Um, but 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.480 that wasn't the big deal there, No, no, no, I 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.120 was that was fine. Just playing with you man. Bottom line, 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.919 can we not go back to get back to look 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.360 at the night Eminem? Tell them once a week, you know, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.960 makeing a little sense. You know, see how you doing? 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.800 Check in? You know what saying people, Hey us, how 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:23.120 we're doing guys? Yeah, hey, I'm doing good. It's good man. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.959 How we doing today? You should you should be a 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.360 beautiful day. Well we're talking about you know, played by 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.400 play trying to see he was on some basketball this 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.519 week because it's all these conference tournaments coming on, and 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:33.960 we got a bunch of them here, so we got 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.920 the conference. He was a tournament's gonna be right here 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.000 at the Star where we're doing a broadcast right here. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.640 So they do the men's and women's tournaments right over there, man. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.280 So that's very unique concept that they have. And then 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.600 the American Athletic Conference is doing theirs over Dickies and 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.440 for or on the tournament out there, So that's pretty cool. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.520 I enjoyed it fat living here in the town where 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.240 we got a lot of bass. I'm big college basketball, 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.280 gat haven't. Haven't spent a lot of time grow up 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.880 on number one, just because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.120 You know what you have. H is coming to the 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.800 Big twelve. Just you know who the head coach is. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.520 I'm saying, you know who the coach to Sampson Sampson, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.160 Kelvin Sampson. Yeah, Way graduated from. I want to talk 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:16.360 to Way graduate from. I don't know. Please enlighten us 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:24.520 everybody that I don't want to winning the reality shows. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.640 You put that clue together quick one. I bet you 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:32.880 ain't listening to the lights over there game. Actually, his 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.680 wife is now man with the trust. I didn't talk 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.200 to her because she was on the board when they 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:42.279 their lights back to Mike mccarth got back to So 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.039 Mike McCarthy goes to the combine. You want to know 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.320 the truth, man, tell you the truth. The people are 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.880 mad about what they heard. The man sat there and 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:55.159 told you, Hey, I like Kellen Moore. I used to 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.520 be Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore, want to run up points, 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.880 want a number one offense. I used to be that. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.400 But I want a Super Bowl. I want to run 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.560 the ball. I want to protect my defense. Man, head coach, 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.000 I see it differently. What he's saying there is what 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.880 I've had other coaches talk to me about, especially in 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.160 the college level, about dealing with dudes who are gurus 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.960 who want to run up and show off they plays, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.000 and I feeling like, man, this dude was scoring the 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.920 under the bus. This is what's happening. That's me. Then 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.640 you go ahead, Church a go ahead, because I want 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.359 to know. I feel like this is deflecting from the 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.480 real problem. But I'm not going to talk about the room. Head. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.479 Give it all out there, baby, give it. Wasn't this 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.600 team a top ten rushing team overall. Yes, they were 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.920 a top ten rushing rooms. Isn't the goal in the 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.800 NFL to score as many points as you can? No, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.919 that's not the goal scoring more points than the other team. Okay, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.640 So and they were one of the top teams that 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.039 scoring points. Is that correct? True? So what's the problem. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.000 There's what is the what's the problem? Now? You watch 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.679 the games like we watched the games, okay, and those 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.839 games where you put up forty on Minnesota, they can 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.240 they can change the average a lot those games when 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.320 you put up fifty on it, like they changed it. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.159 But when he came to the times when you really 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.159 needed to put us some points against some really good 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.960 defenses over the last few years, whose fault is that? 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.280 McCartney just said, Hey man, is that killer Moore? That's 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.279 what this is. This is just blazing to me. My 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:29.480 quarterback I hit throwing interceptions. We don't have the receiver, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.280 the receiving quarter that we thought we had. So how 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.040 can you then adapt to make sure that Okay, since 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.320 we can't do that, our quarterback ain't protecting the ball, 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.200 Let's lean on our defense and make sure that we 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.560 in every driveway to kick. How can we do that killer. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.160 He didn't do that. He didn't do it. He didn't 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.240 do it. I can see if we weren't even in 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.040 attempts you, I can see we weren't even attempting to run. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.000 The statistics get in the way. Go back to two 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.440 years ago when they were scoring forty against the NFC East, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.320 it was struggling againstbody else. And then when they had 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.320 to play the winning team, like talking about the Kansas 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.400 City game. When I went up there today played Kansas 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.640 City defense did enough for you defensive way offense could score. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.560 But then you gonna go ahead and play the Giants 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.840 and roll forty on them and fifty on them. There 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:19.320 was an imbalance about Arizon. The problem is that we 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.960 acting like these plays that are being drawn up just 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.640 ain't working. Because for some reason we understand why they're working. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.560 But if it's not working, if it's if it's consistently. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.360 As you're going into the season, you said, man, we're 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.160 in week seven and this ain't working. All right? We 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.600 leading the league in pixus to do it and came back. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.760 We cannot protect the ball. What do we need to 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.080 do to make sure we get this on track? You 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.800 played for defense corners and say, you know what, Brod, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.920 We're going back to the basics. We're gonna we're gonna 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.800 slim down the playbook because what we're doing right now 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.400 ain't working. And we never saw that happen with Keller 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.120 Moore calling the place we know saying, man, that got seventeen. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.280 He said, man, he gonna take care of the ball 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:56.920 this time. We give him another opportunity to go out 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.680 there though, three pieces in the game. So if you so, 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.520 what else can you do as an offer? If you're 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.760 a top ten in attempts and rushing the football as 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.040 well as you're putting up pots, what else can you do? 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.680 You're attempting to run the football? Is that? I mean, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.240 you're you're attempting to run the foot You're not running 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:17.880 it enough? Y No, no, no. The thing that I 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.080 think that you what you what's your point now? Churchill 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.520 is right because you're taking the sample size based off 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.400 of the statistics, and where you're going is we're handing 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.280 this offense over to Dak and he's turning the ball 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.440 over all right, this throw pretty much after missing five 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.000 games through more interceptions than any quarterback UH with in 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:40.080 last season. My thing was when I listened to Mike McCarthy. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.880 What I think he was just basically pointing out is 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.480 that as a head coach, his responsibility is totality taking 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.120 care of the team, you know, playing complimentary football, so 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.040 to speak. All right, but I'll give you I would 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.600 sum it up like this. When you look at let's 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:01.959 say the dan Quinn Super Bowl, they had satistically, mathematically, analytically, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.280 there's no way you lose that Super Bowl. If Shanahan 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.920 does well, run the ball, all right, that's that's going 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.600 to win you a super Bowl. As damn near impossible 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.520 mathematically to do that. Now you look at Shanahan as 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.200 a head coach of San Francisco, he don't call plays 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.440 like that because he's a head coach and he's also 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.600 thinking about his defense. Just one more think about the 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.240 Seattle Super Bowl, Seattle versus New England. Now that's Atlanta. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.200 That's one less Super Bowl ring for Brady and Belichick. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.800 Then you go to the Seattle New England. You're on 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.240 the one yard line and your OC calls a what 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.599 on the one yard line? And so I think what 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.199 michaelmccarthy is basically saying is being reckless at certain points 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.280 in time in the season. They just left the defense 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.479 out to drive. We have one of the best defenses, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.319 but you just don't call plays the way that Kelly 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.320 Moore did. And I'm sure if Dan Quinn probably echoed 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.560 that what he said, like if you call that dumb 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.200 one more time, and that was through the sea and 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.360 you're looking at it from the numbers, but just based 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.800 off of the eyeball test, there were certain players that 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.760 they called that you just it was had scratches through 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.280 the seas. Let me build on what you said about Shannonhead. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.280 Go back to when he was in the Super Bowl 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.520 as a head coach, had a ten point lead against 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.680 Kansas City and he gonna have Jimmy Garoppolo throwing the ball. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.120 Garoppolo missed pass, kans City get the ball right back. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.680 They go next thing, you know, Patrick, but the being 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.760 and they go win the game. And even the Kansas 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.120 City defenders are like, yeah, man, glad they started running 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:32.800 that thing here running this so much of it is 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.719 what these it is situational. So yeah, you could tell me, man, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:39.040 we were top ten, But where were you in the county? 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.320 And I think, and I go back to when you 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.079 got I think you were on a team with with 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:47.360 with Romo and DeMarco Murray. Romo's best year was DeMarco 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.680 was an NFL offensive MVP because they ran the ball 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.440 the more Dack and Romo through When you check their 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.360 record when they throw over forty passes, it's a losing record, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.240 even when even when Troy was here. There is something 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.240 to be balanced. And if we don't think that Dak 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.120 is in the elite quarterback, if you're not, if you're 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.560 not putting him in that Mahomes and Rogers, you need 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.040 to be running the ball more effectively. And as Danny 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.000 talked about, you see, man, you're getting them shots that 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:14.760 he's still throwing picks. You know what we're gonna do. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.679 Let's take that ball out your hand a little bit more. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.440 Run that thing and keep your defense off the field. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.280 This is not a defensive needs to be out there 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.800 thirty plus minutes. I don't think there. But was this 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.440 ad an extreme you're talking about, you know, running it 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.319 in circumstances and all that good stuff, But was this 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.320 team dominant in the ground, Like we can say, all right, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.880 you know what, Dad, you're struggling right now, Just turn 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.920 around and hand and football off. How many times did 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.240 we see Zeke go three yards in a cloud of dust? 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.400 You know? I mean, how many let's run this day? 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.040 We got? We got t Yeah, we did, we did. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.160 There was in the Pro Bowl running the football, just 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.480 in totality what he was able to do catching the 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.520 ball out of the backfield as well, I think I 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.240 think when that happens. What you also have to say is, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.640 Mike McCarthy is a Super Bowl winning coach watching killing 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.559 Moore called plays, maybe saying, okay, can we get a 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.520 little bit more creative with the runs? Did we have 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.360 the most creative run game in the league? But how 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.559 But when you go back to his Super Bowl, how 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.559 did he get there be something in the ground game? No, No, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:22.280 he's been in the lab. Now, if you if you're talking, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.880 if you're talking about running the ball, you been in 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.040 the lab. And let's say, let's say you've been studying 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.680 teams who who who had great defenses and they were 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.920 able to run the ball. Right, So you are looking 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.360 at a Shanahan type of offense and you're saying, hey, man, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.959 it's our running game, this creative. Do we have the 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.719 weapons to be able to duplicate what they're doing with 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.439 a Deebo, Sam, you are are the running back by committee? 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.120 When they come in, I would say, no, we don't. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.520 I would say our running game was less creative than 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.000 our passing game. I think most of the creativity was, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:52.760 hey man, how are we gonna line up four guys 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.840 out here, five guys out here and kind of trick them, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.040 dick them and see how we can get this defensive 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.920 kind of you know, lose sight of somebody versus, hey man, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.320 can we run missdirection that somebody that nobody's seen before? 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.199 We can get the linebackers out of position. Because we 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.760 always seem seemed to be that team right when if 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.360 we pursued too fast, then teams will catch us and 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.600 that we're pursuing kind of, you know, use the cutbacks 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.640 on us. Did we did we do that? I was like, man, 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.679 Tony Pollard in the game, all right, we know that's 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.520 where it's going, all right, Zeke in the game, we 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.400 know it's going right there. Yeah, And they became predictable 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.880 a lot in the season. But it's I think it's 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.360 just what I guess what we're talking about is was 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.679 what he said Shade at Kellen, and I thought I 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.800 didn't think it was I didn't think it was. I 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.160 thought as much as people perceived it to be that way, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.800 I thought he was just, you know, basically stating the 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.120 obvious about how you're supposed to take care of your 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.599 football team, especially when you have a lead or you 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.959 you know, wherever you are in the football game. But 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.559 I do understand what I agree with you completely. The 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.120 creativity and the running game wasn't there. They They ran 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.920 a lot of outside zone when Polo was in and 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.559 it was more power when Zeke was in the game. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:02.400 Fullbacks to boom fourth than one my man. Zeke was 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.679 lined up at fullback, you know, every every time. And 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.199 that's where I think a lot of times with this 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.040 the offensive play calling for Kelly Moore was so maddening. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.920 Is that the it just sputtered you didn't It didn't. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.240 They didn't have an identity. Even looking back over last season. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.320 What was the identity of this team? What were they 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.760 that you know, blood to bone? What were they good at? True? Well, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.960 what they were good at saying was all right, man, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.000 they extension of the running game. And that started in 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.000 week one of the season. We all said in his 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.280 and everybody's like, hey man, Tampa Bay got a great defense. 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:33.760 We ain't gonna be able to run it against the 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.320 so we're gonna have an extension of the running game. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.160 We got through a bubble screen, at the bubble screen, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.560 at the bubble screen, and everybody came here Saturday. I'm 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.840 talking about Yeah, Yeah, that's I mean, that's the running game. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.480 That's the running game. Two years later to a year later, 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.320 Mike called me talking about, Hey man, we need to 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.400 run the ball ball So what you think big Mike 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.400 was thinking? After that Press Company say, man, we threw 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:53.760 the ball a fet the time we lost the game, 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.520 and we talked about we ran the ball well because 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.800 we did extensive on the Hura Running Game. And as 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.400 Mike got criticism, I went back into this and we 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.680 kind of talked about this, and nobody's beat this one 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:08.000 home more than Danny. You hired a dude who was 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.920 a play caller and he's not calling the plays in 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.080 front of the beginning. Yeah, what what are we doing 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.120 other than I? And it's just just me. I believe 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.960 he sat there and just like, yeah, man, Kelling Moore. 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:21.600 To hire Kelling Moore? Where I went? So you get 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.720 the job? The man said, he looked the Jets and 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.160 Cleveland Browns told you know, so after you losing jobs 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:28.960 and them through franchisees. Man, he's gonna say what they 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.840 you need to. Oh yeah, you're a genius boy, Genie White. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.280 Work with a boy. Um, so you say what you 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.720 gotta say to get the time. I ain't gonna lie. Man. 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.360 My first job Nascar, Yeah, man, yeah, I ain't know 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:48.280 nothing except for Richard pett bro I't know nothing about Nascar. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.800 I knew that Joe Gibbs on the team. I knew 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.840 Richard Petty and here Richard Petty win the more races. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.360 So dude, I was that black dude out there? Um, 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:01.760 the black dude? It was? It was. It was a 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.360 couple of others, y'all, y'all head down of each other. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:13.920 He can you help me? What's the what's the tire test? Yeah? 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.120 What's right front? I mean, I ain't know, but you know, 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:18.960 I need to say. I need to get their job. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.280 So alert, But but look, unaway, unaway, what do you 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.360 have to do to get the job. Jason Garret was 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.760 already hired. I was already hired. You had to say that. 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.240 So basically the last two guys who come head coach 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.520 had to take these dudes them called play. What was 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.320 the question because I want to know what it was 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.320 asked to him? Like was it you know? Because I 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.720 feel like I don't know the exact question, but I 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.640 feel like he could have just been like, you know what, hey, 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.000 you know, Kellen is gonna have a bright future somewhere else. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.680 We're gonna go in a different direction and leave it 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.320 at that. Okay, this was the actual question. This is 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.520 great because when it happened, I asked for I produce, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.080 do we have this? Because McCarthy did the podium and 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.280 then Macholda told me no, this was off to the 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.320 side or like in the breakfast or whatever, old where 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.680 they didn't have cameras, people a little more loose, you know, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:08.880 and and and you guys know us very well. How 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.960 you hear something in writing versus watching someone say it. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.040 I didn't take it as him shading Kelln Moore as 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.800 much as I'm saying, hey, man, look young play I've 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.040 been here, man, Hey, this is my job is sent 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.560 upon dialogs who players this we're gonna do. It's a 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.960 head coach. I think differently. It's it's it's maybe you 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.119 studied this win in school. In your business school with 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.320 the zoom in, zoom out, mccarthur, us zooming out. You 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:34.879 look at it the whole thing you Kellen Moore us 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.840 zooming in because we were put us some points. That's 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.040 what we do. And McCarthy saying, man, I need as 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.840 a play calle to win championships, you gotta zoom out. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.159 And when you're young, you don't really know that. And 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.280 he it wasn't like he was on a super Bowl 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.320 team here or anywhere else in his career in Detroit. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.840 That's how I I didn't take it as a slam. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.399 I think Kelly mo Wharton him, we'll go to go 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.040 to LA and be good. Yeah, I think you're good luck. 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:04.520 I can't Keller More and Herbert now, I can't Baby Show. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.439 I think he would be good. You're gonna have him 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.040 on the show. The head coach will get everyone fired. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.600 Oh yeah, No, I want none of that. I want 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:14.960 none of that. I don't want to know. You're already 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.399 trying to hand the camp I don't want to hit. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.960 I want don't. He's not gonna let that man have 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.760 no out, no out campin already. No, it's going to 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.240 be allowed. Keenan Allen might not be the head coach. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.320 Not good, but Keller more doesn't Herbert, they hold them 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.280 back four to nine. He gonna let keller Morena call 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.760 the play and you good like that Zeke player gonna 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:45.000 be snapping the ball. See that ain't way? So who 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.440 can come on? Man O? The Big Mike raised ahead 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.320 of you. Believe Big Mike came up with the last 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.800 play that we saw this season when Zeke lined up 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.360 at center. 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