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Speaker 1: is guaranteed. Well, Kirk Cousins has been benched, and according

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Speaker 1: May Who would ever thought that that would be a conversation,

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Speaker 1: But it's a legit conversation because one, if you did

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Speaker 1: a redraft today, Caleb Williams would not go number one,

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Speaker 1: Jade Daniels would, and I think the question is who

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Speaker 1: would go number two? And let's face it, the guy

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel played, or you know when he was a

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Speaker 1: coach who used to play a quarterback, was Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 1: who's like a game manager. He comes from the Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of school thought. As a player, the

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady that was the quarterback for the Patriots when

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Speaker 1: he was a player was not the Tom Brady that

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Speaker 1: we saw six oh seven moving forward. It was much

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Speaker 1: more in the game manager played defense. Now, you could

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Speaker 1: argue that's an archaic way of thinking, you can't really

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Speaker 1: operate that way, and I would tend to agree, but

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Speaker 1: your football philosophy is kind of your football philosophy most

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Speaker 1: of the way that I look at this world. I'm

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Speaker 1: open to new ideas, but like, my core values I

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Speaker 1: don't think have really changed in twenty plus years, just

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Speaker 1: like most football coaches I know. Doesn't mean they don't

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Speaker 1: implement new things, but their core belief on how to

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Speaker 1: play ball doesn't really change as they go from forty

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Speaker 1: years old to fifty years old to six years old.

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Speaker 1: They might implement some more things, but they still have

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Speaker 1: a core philosophy of how to play Dan Campbell, he

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Speaker 1: goes for it more than you know some of these

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Speaker 1: guys would have done twenty years ago. But like the

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Speaker 1: way he built his team. It's not paying off right

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Speaker 1: now because they're all injured, but like defensive line, physicality

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Speaker 1: with a big ass offensive line in multiple running backs,

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Speaker 1: like he built his team a lot like a team

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Speaker 1: that would have played in the nineties. And I just

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Speaker 1: wonder if Mike Rabol, like, would he even be interested

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Speaker 1: pretty big undertaking. I mean, the guy we saw the

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought it was crazy that everyone just

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Speaker 1: anointed him so quickly before the season. I'm like the

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Speaker 1: NFL is really hard, and listen, I thought he would

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Speaker 1: be a lot better given the wide receivers he's throwing to.

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Speaker 1: But you talk about a guy seeing ghosts, I mean

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold four years ago, got no clue what he's

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Speaker 1: doing and he just freezes. So, based on the information

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Speaker 1: we have right now, like I think you could make

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Speaker 1: has the connection with Robert crafton. Here's the reality. I

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Speaker 1: think you learned this the older you get in life

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Speaker 1: is whether it's the Bears and you got to deal

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Speaker 1: you know, if you do not are the boss or

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Speaker 1: be tough for Bill to work with people like he

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Speaker 1: have the capacity to buy one. So he's gonna need

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it's gonna work or not, but I could

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Speaker 1: do Like if you're a football coach, there's no just

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Speaker 1: chancellor buy into him. But he couldn't just start like

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Speaker 1: a copllege football team or an NFL team. So you

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Speaker 1: do have to learn to work with others. It's a

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Speaker 1: I totally understand how that would be tough, right, And

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Speaker 1: Question around the Chiefs looking forward to upcoming seasons? What

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Speaker 1: do you think the strategy is around some key players

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Speaker 1: that come at a price. We look at some of

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Speaker 1: these guys coming up on their final years of their

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Speaker 1: first contracts. Who do you retain versus who do you draft?

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Speaker 1: Players like Bolton Karlovskis McDuffie, Trey Smith, Pachaco. Not all

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Speaker 1: these guys are going to be top of the market.

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Speaker 1: Some probably are, but they aren't going to be cheap.

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Speaker 1: Curious your thoughts on those discussions with Veitch and the

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Speaker 1: team having around this topic. Well, I would say McDuffie

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Speaker 1: is a lock keeper. I would say Karlovskis is going

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Speaker 1: to be kept as well. Nick Bolton's obviously really good player.

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Speaker 1: It just becomes a little complicated with linebackers and prices,

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Speaker 1: how much you're willing to pay him, how much you're

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Speaker 1: going to allocate, Like McDuffie's not going to be cheap,

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Speaker 1: Like that's a really really expensive player. You know, George

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Speaker 1: But even if you get those guys at a discount,

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Speaker 1: it's still you know, what is it eighteen nineteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year? I would say Isaiah Pachaco, he is

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Speaker 1: not a second contract guy, despite him being a really

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Speaker 1: good player. My guess is that they will just play

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Speaker 1: out his rookie contract. When it comes to Trey Smith,

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Speaker 1: I thought they extended Tray Smith. Maybe they didn't, so

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Speaker 1: Tray Smith's contract. I mean, he's a really good player. God,

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Speaker 1: he's a great deal right now. Tray Smith currently costs

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Speaker 1: them ninety grand, so yeah, I don't know, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to pay some of these guys. Now, Karlovska's McDuffie

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Speaker 1: are both going into their second this is their third year,

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Speaker 1: so I think they would play it out again with

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Speaker 1: both those guys. Usually ideally with you know, guys you've

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Speaker 1: signed after four years, so you could keep them under

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Speaker 1: contract for another year? Am I nuts? Or? Is the

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Speaker 1: Donald versus McCarthy talk complete nonsense? How in God name

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Speaker 1: God's name are the Vikings going to even consider letting

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Speaker 1: Donald walk because they love JJ based off of what

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Speaker 1: on what planet doesn't unproven injury prone J Jim McCarthy

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Speaker 1: put you in a better position to win than Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree, But I think that they you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a moneyball element to them. They just did it

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Speaker 1: again with Donald. To JJ McCarthy, I think one thing

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Speaker 1: When you just build around him and keep JJ let

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Speaker 1: him prove that he's healthy as like a contingency plan, right,

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Speaker 1: Like if you knew if Cousins was a pro bowler

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Speaker 1: this year, no one would have any issue and they'd

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Speaker 1: be in first place. But he's a disaster, right, So

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Speaker 1: like once you sign the Bridge quarterback and then he's incredible,

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Speaker 1: and he's also twenty seven twenty eight years old with

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Speaker 1: a pedigree being a high pick, you go, are we

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Speaker 1: sure we didn't just strike oil here? I would keep mind.

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Speaker 1: I would offer him the Baker Mayfield deal yesterday. The

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Speaker 1: Packers have a ton of offensive talent, Watson, Dobbs, read

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Speaker 1: Wis and Tucker Craft. Who are they going to pay?

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Speaker 1: The Packers make quick, smart decisions, so I assume they

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Speaker 1: already made up their mind. What do you think The

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Speaker 1: Packers paid Love a ton of money, so that is

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Speaker 1: going to hurt them moving forward. They cannot afford to

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Speaker 1: pay everybody, especially with young emerging talent. Well, a tight

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Speaker 1: end is one of the best deals in the league

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Speaker 1: because the highest paid tight end makes less than half

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Speaker 1: get that guy at a very very cheap number. To me,

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Speaker 1: they are a great, great deal. So I would say

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Speaker 1: that Tucker Craft is a lock, and listen, how much

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Speaker 1: you still got another year under him on a very

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Speaker 1: this for him? Four? Or is this year three? Some

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Speaker 1: so twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. He's a second

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Speaker 1: year next year. He's kind of polarizing because he's been injured. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't really been that productive. God, he's been way

641
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: less productive than I realized. I guess last year he

642
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: was injured. This year he's got twenty nine catches only

643
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. What the fuck's that gonna cost you? I

644
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: think Jayden Reid's a stud. But how many you got

645
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: time on these guys? And when I say time, like

646
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: plus they all kind of take away from each other.

647
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: None of them, Like Jayden Reid is a second year

648
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: player and he's got forty four catches. Last year he

649
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: had sixty four, so he'll be back to back sixty

650
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: four sixty catches, seven eight nine touchdowns. I think you're

651
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: in a good position. None of these has to be paid.

652
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this for the mailbag? This is crazy.

653
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: You can talk to your players as the head coach?

654
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: Are you the boss of all bosses? Like? What is

655
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: this guy thinking? It was the video of the Eagles

656
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: defensive line coach screaming at Sirianni to get away from

657
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. I think Jalen Carter is a pretty big

658
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: wild card. And the way I heard it describe when

659
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: he was coming out of college like he's a little

660
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: bit of an emotional rollercoaster, so you gotta be careful

661
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: with them. And after he hit the dude on the

662
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Steelers and took the fifteen yard penalty, any coach worth

663
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: their salt would go over and talk to the guy,

664
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: every single one. But I wonder if the d line

665
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: coach knows that like this could this could unravel fast.

666
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: And Jalen has been playing at like a pro bowl level,

667
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: so it's like we got Sirianni who can be a hothead.

668
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: We're just trying to simmer everything down. But can you

669
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: imagine an assistant coach telling Mike Tomlin telling Jim or

670
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh telling Andy Reid, telling Kyle Shanahan, Er McVeigh

671
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: or Lafleur to back the fuck up. I don't know

672
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: that's not exactly what he told him, but like, you're

673
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: not talking to this guy right now. Think about that.

674
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: That was pretty nuts, Like, hey, bro, you work for me,

675
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: and I want to talk to my guy, even if

676
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: it's not a great idea. Now that position coach might

677
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: have been doing, Sirianni you favor because there might been

678
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: nothing productive that would have been a result of their

679
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: conversation because everyone's emotions were high. You're winning the game.

680
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: But that seems crazy to me, Like, get I'm the

681
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: boss and it's like, well are you. I don't know.

682
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: Those are a weird thing. It's like they're a dysfunctional

683
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: high end operation. It feels like they're a little like

684
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: they got a lot going on, but they got so

685
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: much talent it works. It's like sometimes you hear about

686
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: a buddy who like works for a guy. Sometimes you'll

687
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: just meet someone and you'll be like, this guy's nuts.

688
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: It happens a lot when I'm playing golf that you know,

689
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: you play with other friends and they bring people, and

690
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you'll realize, like on the

691
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: seventh toll, You'll be like, yeah, that company's talking about

692
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: he owns and it's worth like three hundred million dollars

693
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: something like that guy's yeah, he's just a dysfunctional, functional

694
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: individual and it works. And that kind of feels like

695
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: what the Eagles are. They got a lot of shit

696
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: going on at all times, but they got so much

697
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: talent and it all comes together and it just works.

698
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Question for the bag. We know that the quarterback is

699
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: the most important position in sports, but I can't help

700
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: but think that having an elite coach and a good

701
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: quarterback is better than an elite quarterback and a good

702
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: mediocre coach. Look at Burrow versus the Broncos and Bonnicks,

703
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: for example. I genuinely think that I would much rather

704
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: have Andy Reid and a quarterback like Dak than Josh

705
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: and Zach Taylor. Curious your thoughts, I would agree like

706
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: I would rather have Mike. If I was a fan,

707
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: my team would make the playoffs more often and more consistently.

708
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: With Andy Reid and Dak Prescott than Josh Allen and

709
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: just pick some terrible coach. The problem is is we've

710
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: seen like Andy with Josh Allen, how we saw Bill

711
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: the one good year he has with Mac Jones. Your

712
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: ceiling in the playoffs is pretty limited, so it's like, yeah,

713
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: your team can win nine to twelve games. We saw

714
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: with Andy for a long time with Alex Smith. Same

715
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: thing with Jim Harbaugh with Alex Smith. But you if

716
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: you get the real coach like Andy Reid Alex Smith

717
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: are making the playoffs every year. These weren't going far.

718
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: But if I gave Josh Allen, Josh Allen's in a

719
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: pretty good organization, like Sean mcdermot's a good coach. The

720
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: Bills are just a well run organization. If you put

721
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: them on like the Jags, you just might not look

722
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: the same, even if he was a great player. I

723
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: agree with you football more than these other sports like baseball.

724
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: My manager, how much does it really matter if my

725
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: team stacked right a little bit in the playoffs, But

726
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: during the regular season, if my team is loaded, I

727
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: can win one hundred games. In basketball, you would one

728
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: hundred percent pick one of the top players over a

729
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: top coach without hesitating football, Like, what's the number one

730
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: overall draft pick? If you were a team, could you

731
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: argue that you would pick Andy Reid before you picked Mahomes?

732
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: Because if you had pick number thirty three, you know,

733
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: think of all the coaches and quarterbacks that would be

734
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: off the board. Couldn't you just draft like Dak Prescott right,

735
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: or just some solid quarterback? So would you rather have

736
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Mahomes or Lamar One? And if I

737
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: got to pick a below average coach, that'd be pretty risky.

738
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: Football is the one sport where you could just if

739
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: I taken it, if everyone was available, taking the coach first.

740
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the right move, Like I probably

741
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: would just take Josh Allen, but if you took Andy Reid,

742
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't argue with you. Question for the bag longtime

743
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: nin Er fan. With Lynch willing to take swings, would

744
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: it be a fantasy world if him and Kyle would

745
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: be willing to trade Joe Burrow With reports coming out

746
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: between the disconnect and the Bengals and their history of frugality,

747
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: it would be a long shot, but the combo of

748
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: Burrow and Shanahan is a mouth watering prospect. I think

749
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: about this sometimes. I'd be lying if I said I didn't.

750
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: I think if you'd even entertain the call, even if

751
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: they say, hey, we'll offer you whatever you want, you

752
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: tell us what you want and we will we will

753
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: accommodate your wishes. Just fold the franchise. If the Bengals

754
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: right now would entertain trading Joe Burrow, they should fold

755
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: the franchise or sell the franchise immediately. So I tried

756
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: to put myself in their shoes. And I think because

757
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: the NFL, if this was baseball, you'd be like, yeah,

758
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's on the market, you could go get him.

759
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: But I think because it's football, they have the money.

760
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think he'd be available in twenty twenty five. Now.

761
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: Maybe in a couple more years. If they keep losing,

762
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: maybe they try to pivot. But I see under zero

763
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: circumstances now would the forty nine ers do it? In

764
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: a New York second, I'm with you, I mean Joe Burrow.

765
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen Joe Burrow and Brock Purty on

766
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: the same field at the same time. Last year. One

767
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: guy looked like Joe Montana and listen, it feels like

768
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm shitting on Brock Purty. I'm really not. I like

769
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: him a lot as a player, but like Joe Burrows

770
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: would an elite blue chip championship level player looks like

771
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: Purty is like, I don't know. I mean, we're still

772
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: kind of figuring that out. I mean, hell, he makes

773
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: a million dollars. What happens when he makes fifty? But

774
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: obviously you would rather have Joe Burrow than Brock Purty.

775
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: I just think it's very rare in the NFL. You know,

776
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: it takes a lot. Carson Palmer basically quit had to

777
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: retire for them to get rid of him. Berry Native

778
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: living near your hometown, living in Vacaville, No, I know Vacaville. Well,

779
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: they used to have a mall back when mals mattered.

780
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: I guess you guys still have outlets. When I lived

781
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: in Walnut Creek, I used to stop at They had

782
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 1: a Nike outlet there. They had a Chipotle there. Every

783
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: once in a while when I was feeling like a

784
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: fat ass that you had a Crispy Kreme there that

785
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: I hit up. They had an in and out, so

786
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: I was a frequent Vacaville Stopper really my adult life

787
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: and when I was a kid and my mom we

788
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: used to go there all the time. I am a

789
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: diehard Niner fan and a pretty believer, but I do

790
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: think he's anywhere. I don't think he's anywhere near the

791
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks and certainly doesn't deserve to be paid like

792
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: a top guy. If you were the Niner GM, what

793
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: would you do with brock In? What would his contract

794
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: look like? Second, looking down the road, after I retire

795
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: from my current career, I would like to get a

796
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: job in football, assistant strength coach or even a scout.

797
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: I've been an assistant football coach at my old high

798
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: school for twenty years and plan on continuing. I'll be

799
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: fifty and twelve years when I retire. God, you're retiring young.

800
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Life is good. So would I be too old to

801
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: get a job like a scout or an assistant coach

802
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: at like a sack State. I don't think he'd be

803
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: too old to get a job like a sax State

804
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: or UC Davis. I think it would be very difficult

805
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: for you to get a scouting job at that point

806
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: in time in your life with no history of It's

807
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: not like you could just even if you know football well,

808
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: it would be difficult obviously too. I don't know if

809
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: you don't know anyone and be near impossible. Sax State

810
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: or UC Davis is much more, I would say, of

811
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: an attainable goal. You know, I was trying to my fiance,

812
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Maria is a huge forty nine Ers fan, So we

813
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: were talking last night because she sees all these memes

814
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: and things and she's trying to figure out, like why

815
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: it's everyone talking about party in his contract. And she

816
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: saw Richard Sherman go on this rant like the price

817
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: is the price, and it's like, yeah, the price the price.

818
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: If you're bad at business. It's like, yeah, this house,

819
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: because of the market, is worth five million dollars. But

820
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: I also think if you're willing to pay five million

821
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: dollars for this house, I think you're an idiot. You know,

822
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: Like two things can be true, Like that's kind of

823
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: the going rate because of the market to conditions, and

824
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: it's like this house is in terrible shape and you'd

825
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: have to put in another three or four million dollars

826
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: just to make it livable. Right, But because of the

827
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: location where it is, I mean, we could argue market

828
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: conditions till we're blue in the face, and she's in

829
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: real estate. So I use the example of like, well,

830
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: he's technically going to make more than Patrick Mahomes because

831
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes side is contract years ago and a lot

832
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: like real estate, Well, if you bought the house in

833
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, now the next door neighbor's house, even

834
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: if it's not near, is nice, is worth more than

835
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: that four years later. It's kind of this scenario. But again,

836
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: like if you want to pay him that, I don't

837
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: know what I think you're I think it's bad business, Like, well,

838
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: the market's the market, that's well, yeah, the market is

839
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: the market, Trevor Lawrence. That's fucking terrible business, Tua is

840
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: those type contracts derailed their franchise, derailed the franchise. If

841
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: you would look at the Jags and go, they still

842
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: owe him. His contract hasn't even started. It's like, I'm

843
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: shorting your franchise, Tua. His contract hasn't even started. I'm out,

844
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: like I'm gone. So it's like, well, the market was

845
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: the market, Well, yeah, some things you pay market prices.

846
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: For other things you go all pass. That's not a

847
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: good idea. And I saw. One thing Richard said is like, well,

848
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: do you have a replacement? It's like, do you need

849
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: a replacement right now? He's still in your contract for

850
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: a year. Why can't we play it? What's he gonna do?

851
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Hold out? Okay, good luck, I don't think you will.

852
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to play hard I I what happened to that?

853
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: I think we need a little more hardball. Right the

854
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: NBA stopped playing hardball. We see how that's going not

855
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: well because they just acquiesced to every demand and now

856
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: they're starting to not but it's almost too late. Everyone

857
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: checked out. The NFL just kind of gave in to

858
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. It's like, yeah, we're just

859
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna let it. We're just gonna let it ride. It's

860
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: one thing. It's like Joe Burrow, Okay, generational player, we

861
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: get it. Like we've had we know what it looks like,

862
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: and this is fucking good. You know, we've had solid

863
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: average and Andy Dalton before that, we had high end

864
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, Like, Okay, we have a pretty good idea.

865
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: This is pretty special. This is what it costs. I'm sorry.

866
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: It's just just because other people got paid something doesn't

867
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: mean it's a good idea, It honestly makes no sense

868
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: to me, and I get the caps going up. And

869
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you pay him nothing, but like if

870
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: you use the Trevor Lawrence deal as a cop, I go, yeah,

871
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: we're not Theaguars. We don't ever plan on running a

872
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: business like the Jaguars, and we think signing a contract

873
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: like that is the immediate death of everything we got

874
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: going on here. So again we pass. It's like, well,

875
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: who's your replacement, Well, we don't have one. You're sure

876
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback? This is a National Football leage'ar under contract

877
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: and all that money you're making off the field is

878
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: because you're the starting quarterback for our franchise. And I'm

879
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: not trying to be a tough guy or whatever, Like

880
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: he's a very respectable, good guy and it's not like

881
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: he's even saying any of this. But this conversation I

882
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: feel like has jumped the shark. And maybe it's some

883
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: of the reporting Pealsarro said, I'm not gonna take a

884
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: hometown discount. Well who are you gonna play for? Then?

885
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: Like what's your market? That's where I still don't understand,

886
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: Like what's the market part of like when a guy's

887
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: holding out, like TJ. Watt, it's like, well, he'd have

888
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: a massive market, even IUK Last year, the whole den

889
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: like other teams wanted him. The Patriots willing to give

890
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: him thirty two million dollars a year, The Browns were

891
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: willing to give him thirty million dollars a year, Steelers

892
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: were willing to give him twenty eight million dollars a year.

893
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Like that, that was fat actual? Is that the case

894
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: with perty, Like, Hey, we're offering you one hundred and

895
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: ten million dollars guaranteed. Do you have other offers out there?

896
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: We'll let you sniff around. We need your replacement, and

897
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: we obviously let us know what the contract is and

898
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: we will see if we'll match or whatever. Like you

899
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: got one hundred and fifty million dollars on the open

900
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: market just because previous deals are bad, like the Deshaun

901
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: Watson deals. In embarrassment for the NFL, no one else

902
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: is getting fully guaranteed contracts. Is the mainstream sports media

903
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: propaganding us to believe Josh Allen is the MVP, Lamar

904
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: Jackson is leading him in every statistical category outside of

905
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 1: rushing ts. Is this sort of like Lebron fatigue. Why

906
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: do you think Lamar isn't getting any more love this year? Well,

907
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: he's the defending champion, you know, with the award, defending

908
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: award winner. He's he's actually having a way better statistical

909
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: season than he did last year. Remember last year he

910
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: threw twenty five touchdowns. This year he's got thirty four.

911
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: He's got multiple, like four or five touchdown games. Part

912
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: of it, too, is Josh's team has a better record,

913
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: and his team cut all these people in the offseason, right,

914
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: most of Lamar's teammates came back and they added a

915
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: very similar roster to last season. For Lamar Jackson, defense

916
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: has fallen off a cliff, but it's same players. So

917
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: I think there's some fatigue. I think if Lamar hadn't

918
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: won it last year, I think there would be more

919
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: of momentum for him in the mix. And I think

920
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: fatigue is fair. Like, is Lamar Jackson a three time

921
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: MVP at twenty eight years old or whatever he is,

922
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: Like that seems twenty seven years old. Like I got

923
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: no problem with people not giving him the award this year.

924
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: It's like, well, Okay, he's had a better season this

925
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: year than last year, but he still got the award

926
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: one of the two years. That's finaling me. I love

927
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: the content. I'm a diehard Chiefs fan and have been

928
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: one since I was little. We constantly get a lot

929
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: of hate from the rest of the league and fans

930
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: around the refs and dark Magic. I personally feel it's unjustified.

931
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: I was wondering your take on this and possibly what

932
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: you think about them completing the three peat and what

933
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: it would mean for them in the league. Well, you

934
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: know what's funny is historically the big brands used to

935
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: get this the Lakers. When I was a kid, I

936
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: hated the Lakers, right, I was a big Kings fan

937
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: as a kid, and the Lakers lost that series when

938
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: Vladie tipped it out to Robert Rory. And then it

939
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: turns out Tim Donage was throwing the game, like I mean,

940
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: he admitted to like, you know, cooking the books. And

941
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: obviously David Stern, which I don't blame him if I

942
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: was in his shoes, one of the bigger brands for

943
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: television ratings. But in the NFL, it doesn't matter whether

944
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl, whether the Bills

945
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: are in the Super Bowl, whether it's the Lions, whether

946
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: it's the Eagles, whether it's the Packers. It's been proven

947
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: now these last four or five years, these playoff games.

948
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: I just saw the Bills and the Allions outdrew the Steelers

949
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: and the Eagles. Twenty three million people watched the Bills

950
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: and the Lions. Buffalo and Detroit over the Steelers are

951
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: a top five brain in the NFL, and the Eagles

952
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: are clearly one of the biggest marcus in the league,

953
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: and they out drew them by a lot. Honestly, I

954
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: had both games on, obviously, so did most people, but

955
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: I had the Eagles audio on up until the second

956
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: half when the game kind of got out of control.

957
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Then I flipped. I felt like, and maybe it's I

958
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why I was inclined to

959
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: be drawn to the Eagles Steelers over Bills Lions, but

960
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: as a consumer, that's what I leaned toward. Like, if

961
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: you told me I could only watch one game at

962
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: the beginning of the day, I would have chose that game.

963
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: But so maybe I'm out of touch with what the

964
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: consumer is. The Lions are incredible story, great part about technology.

965
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: You can watch them both dark magic like no one

966
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: gives a fuck, like the Raider fans have been saying

967
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: it for years, like they still got it out for us. Like, guys,

968
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Al Davis has been dead for fifteen years, your franchise

969
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: hasn't been good in twenty, it doesn't matter. You're not

970
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: getting called for a lot of penalties because you're the Raiders.

971
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: Maybe that was true in the seventies and eighties, and

972
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was some validity behind it. That's not

973
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: true anymore. Just like the chiefs are not getting bailed out.

974
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: Referees are a lot like government officials. They're incompetent. Honestly,

975
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: nobody roots for referees. If it wasn't for social media,

976
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have realized they're you know, obviously the political

977
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: media and the sports media root for these politicians. It's

978
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: really weird, Like these people are lifetime politicians. Guys, they

979
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire in

980
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: their front yard. And it's like you guys are their

981
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: biggest cheerleaders. Like it's kind of weird. They're both incompetent,

982
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Like these guys couldn't fucking operate in the private sector,

983
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: like this is their only Jobicians like referees, Like what

984
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: are we doing here now? Being a referee is difficult,

985
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: like you're talking real time. You know, human beings, basketball, baseball,

986
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: football for sure, But in football, if you play bad,

987
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: you get caught or fired. You know, if you coach bad,

988
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: you get fired GM if you pick the wrong player,

989
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: you get fired. These referees make bad calls and they're

990
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: on the game the next week. I just don't get it.

991
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: But it's the way it is. So I've just I

992
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in anymore. But I don't some

993
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: stories I just don't pay that much attention to, Like

994
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: it's like I just I don't care. It's like Travis

995
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: Hunter and his girlfriend, Like I do not give a shit,

996
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: Like you have to pay me to care to have

997
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: an opinion. It's like, guys, he's twenty one years old.

998
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: How are people so invested in this? Maybe there are

999
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: certain parts of sports that like I'm detached from, but

1000
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: that's one area. And maybe there's a personal thing with me,

1001
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: like a big believer in I don't really have opinions

1002
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: on my friends or my family, like who they're sleeping with,

1003
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: whether it's girlfriends, wives, Like you choose to do that

1004
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want to do. I don't care.

1005
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: Like we're all adults. That's on you, you know, just

1006
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. I'm not gonna get

1007
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: caught up in it. The Travis Hunter things like, guys,

1008
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: what are we even talking about? I think the same

1009
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: thing about refereeing. It's like, are we serious? I also

1010
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: think that's such an online thing. A question for the

1011
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: bag I like when you shout out to other bald men.

1012
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm not bald myself, but I support the bald community.

1013
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: Give me your mount rushmore of bald guys, one for

1014
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: sports and one for general population culture. Also, how do

1015
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: you feel about bald men like Larry David who don't

1016
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: shave their heads instead maintain the cul de sac? Well,

1017
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: I think the older generation the coldest at being cleanly shaven,

1018
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: like with a bick razor back in the day, and

1019
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: now the you know four you know three heads, five heads,

1020
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: the mock three's, mock five's is much more in vogue.

1021
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: I would say I got no issue with Larry and

1022
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of that generation rocking that. My father, who was bald,

1023
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: rocked to coul de Sac when he was my age.

1024
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: If I rock to cul de Sac. I uh, I

1025
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: just I think people would think I was the ugliest

1026
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: human alive, so it's things have changed. I would say

1027
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore for the culture or pop mainstream non athlete.

1028
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: You would go when I was a kid, Bruce Willis,

1029
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: who's battling. I think dementia right now is not going good.

1030
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: But Bruce has got to be near the top. You know,

1031
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: this guy's technically an athlete, but at the last twenty years,

1032
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, he played college football with the Rock. Would

1033
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: have to be extremely high. I would go Bruce Willis

1034
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: the Rock. This is tough. Sports are easy, right, Michael Jordan,

1035
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods. We got any bald baseball? Jay Buner.

1036
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: Love Jay Buner and he rocked the cleanly shaven head

1037
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: in the nineties before it was cool. I'm trying to

1038
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: think of other really famous actors or people in pop culture.

1039
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: It's a good question. You know, the actors, it's hard

1040
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: for them to get jobs. So many people do fake care.

1041
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: So many people would be bald, but bald culture actors,

1042
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, like I wouldn't see honestly, I did most

1043
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: famous bald actors, and my two were near the top.

1044
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: Dwayne Johnson and Bruce Willis. I guess you'd go Jason Stadium.

1045
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't know Ed Harris, Samuel L. Jackson. I think

1046
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: Samuel L. Would be up there. You know, Vin Diesel,

1047
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't know Terry Crews, JK. Simmons, big fan of JK. Simmons.

1048
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: Travolta's one guy that clearly fought it for a long

1049
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: time and has now just completely embraced it. When you

1050
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: see Travolta now, he used to like he clearly had

1051
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: a wig for a long time. Bald singers, Kenny Chesney,

1052
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good one. Billy corgan Is smashing pumpkins.

1053
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: Not bad to me. It's it's hard to it's hard

1054
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: to get stronger than Willis in the rock. Everyone else

1055
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: is fighting and in sports. I mean, I would say

1056
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: the most iconic one by A Miles. Michael Jordan. I

1057
00:56:54,320 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: consider Tiger Woods bald as well. Eagles fan here. I

1058
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: know you have mentioned on several occasions the Big Dom

1059
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: is an important message to the Eagles. I think it

1060
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: was you that referred to him as the guy who

1061
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: knows where the bodies are buried. My friends and I,

1062
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: in our group chat have been discussing that he's become famous.

1063
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: It almost comes across as a joke. Every time his

1064
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: name is mentioned in his story about the team. I

1065
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: tend to agree that he is important to the team

1066
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: and their culture, but always get pushback. My question is this,

1067
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: Can you put into words what exactly Big Dom does

1068
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: and why he's so important to the team. No, I can't.

1069
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: I think he does a little bit everything. It's like

1070
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: there are humans in companies that work for the bosses

1071
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: that it's hard to describe their roles, but that boss

1072
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: and that human knows that they bring to the table

1073
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: that no one else can quite figure out. Right, in

1074
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: a lot of no on' like fortune five hundred companies,

1075
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: and like a smaller business, that guy exists sometimes and ultimately,

1076
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: while the football team is worth billions of dollars, they're

1077
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: not a huge operation in terms of employees. And obviously

1078
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: the most important employees are your players and your coaches.

1079
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: Like I would say, he assists them. He just makes

1080
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: sure things happen. You know, Philly's a town where you know,

1081
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: shit happens, and it's a small town despite it being

1082
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: a big city. So I think you know, when people

1083
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: have described like Ernie Adams with Belichick. They're like, yeah, well,

1084
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what he did, but I know

1085
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: what he did was important. Well Bill kind of knew

1086
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: what he did, and Ernie kind of knew what he did,

1087
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: and it both it just worked. It's kind of dumb,

1088
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: except it's not like on the field scheme stuff, which

1089
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: Ernie kind of did. It's more like lifestyle stuff. So

1090
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: whether it's helping guys out, whether it's a situation, it's

1091
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: a lot of personal stuff. It's just making things happen

1092
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: or go away. It's really hard to describe. I mean,

1093
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: I can't give you, like I could give you a

1094
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: couple examples way back in the day, probably statue of limitations.

1095
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter. It's not like I know like incidents

1096
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: that are going on right now. You know specific things,

1097
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: but I just know the general. It's why when people

1098
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: describe him, everyone talks about him kind of like a

1099
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: mythological figure because you can't exactly say what he's doing,

1100
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: even though half of it's not even bad. But every

1101
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: team's like that. I used to hear stories about Eddie

1102
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: de Bartlow when he owned the Niners in the eighties,

1103
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: like you think, I mean, same thing with like al

1104
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: Davis in the seventies, like all these guys had dudes

1105
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: that just took care of stuff. I like to get

1106
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: your take on just how close teams with no realistic

1107
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: chance of winning a championship or to the cream of

1108
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: the crop in both the NFL and college. Here's the scenario.

1109
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm a thirty six year old, six feet tall, two

1110
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: hundred thirty pounds out of shape, get to play as

1111
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: a twelve man on every snap of offense, defense, and

1112
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: special teams for the Jacksonville Jags or the West Virginia Mountaineers,

1113
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: my favorite team. Injury sliders are turned off for me,

1114
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: and opponents only get to play with eleven. I recognize

1115
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: that my forty times probably starts with a six and

1116
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: I can probably only bench two hundred pounds. Nevertheless, I

1117
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: am able to body adult males that would need to

1118
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: at least be accounted for schematically, and I suspect my

1119
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: presence would immediately catapult the team to contender status. I

1120
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: would be a little utility in open space. I would

1121
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: be of little utility in open space, but sure my

1122
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: use as an extra blocker inside rusher for every snap

1123
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: would post timing and assignment issues or you get to

1124
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: play as a twelfth man, It's a good question. I

1125
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: think you would probably impact more on defense, Like, for example,

1126
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: in the run game, if I just place you between

1127
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: the slot and whoever my rusher is, and you just

1128
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: ran up field, you would be like a forced defender

1129
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: to win the run game. Anything outside would force the

1130
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: guy in. Or if the guy was busting a run

1131
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: like you know, as an inside run, and he tried

1132
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: to break it out, you would be there even if

1133
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: you couldn't catch him and tackle him, which would be

1134
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: difficult in the big twelve level, I mean, you would

1135
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: be the worst athlete on the field every game you

1136
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: played the NFL, you'd have no shot. You'd have a

1137
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: better shot in college because the guys aren't in the NFL.

1138
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: You get hurt, that'd be another thing. You would get

1139
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: injured like, you would get hurt, and you would get

1140
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: hurt fast. So as a twelfth defender, even if you

1141
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: played for the Jags, like someone on the Titans would

1142
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: injure you. Who the Jacks just played the Jets like,

1143
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: they would fuck you up. I mean, and honestly it

1144
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: would happen in college too, depending on the team. I mean,

1145
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: you get hit hard in college, but you know there's

1146
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: a big difference getting hit by a guy at Alabama

1147
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: and get hit by a guy at Texas Tech. But

1148
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you would not last a game. I

1149
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: think you would. You would get injured quick. You would

1150
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: get tossed around like a rag doll. If you weren't touched,

1151
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: I guess you could impact plays on defense. Offensively, I

1152
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: do not know what you would do, because I would

1153
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: not put you at the line of scrimmage. You would

1154
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: get tossed if I moved you as a slot or

1155
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. A dB could break it off and

1156
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: come catch you. I think you would have little to

1157
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: no role as a bad athlete and out of shape.

1158
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: Listen to your answer about paying Brock. If we agree

1159
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: that Brock is easily a top fifteen quarterback, most people

1160
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: have him in the top ten, and you're wanting to

1161
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: pay him twenty five million dollars a year, do you

1162
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: think there could be a market reset for quarterback payouts,

1163
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: Because if the Jags are paying Trevor that much, he's garbage.

1164
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't the team pay Brock twice as much as Trevor. Also,

1165
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: the rise of backup quarterbacks like Donald and Sam or

1166
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: Donald and Gino could mess with the market. Is he

1167
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback? He was last year when everyone

1168
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: was healthy. Is he this year? We know he's not.

1169
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, Mahomes gonna have the worst year of his

1170
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: career and he's infinitely better. Burrow obviously much better, Lamar

1171
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: obviously much better, Josh Allen obviously much better. Justin Herbert's

1172
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: a better player. Matt Stafford is a better player. I think.

1173
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: Then we start arguing about the group that he's in,

1174
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: like the Dak You know, Kirk Cousins isn't good anymore.

1175
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: Jared Goff is a better player this year. Now he's

1176
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: not a better team Jalen Hurts is currently playing better

1177
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: or just more functional. Yeah, I think it just becomes

1178
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: complicated again. I understand that, like he's not going to

1179
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: sign for twenty five million dollars a year. My point is,

1180
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: like I just have a hard time giving him two

1181
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars guaranteed. I can't do it, especially not

1182
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: with a year remaining on his contract. My guess is

1183
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: they give him like one hundred and fifty million dollars

1184
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: guaranteed if they give him two hundred, Like I just

1185
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe I don't even know what I'm talking about, or

1186
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: maybe the forty nine ers are just like the Jags

1187
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: and the and the Dolphins. Maybe they don't know quarterback

1188
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: that well the quarterback market, and they traded everything for

1189
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: for Trey Lance and now they're giving him. I wasn't

1190
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: have to see how it plays out. But can you

1191
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: explain more about how teams deal with injuries like we

1192
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: have this alliance fan as far as once a player

1193
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: goes on I are and we sign a new player

1194
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: or an entire defense, Detroit has to is the player

1195
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: and I are counted against the cap. How do you

1196
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: balance the cap and money if you're having to sign

1197
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: so many additional players to fill in for these injuries.

1198
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: At a certain point you hit the salary cap. How

1199
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: do you sign additional players? Well, when a guy goes

1200
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: on injured, reserve his cap money, like the money you're

1201
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: actually paying him changes for a lot of these players.

1202
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: This is a good question for like Joshua or Jake

1203
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: Rosenberg specifically on the cap. But basically, when I put

1204
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: a guy on an IR he no longer takes one

1205
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: of the fifty three man roster spots. And then when

1206
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: I sign one of these guys, I'm obviously paying him

1207
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: the minimum salary. So if I'm up against the salary

1208
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: cap and I have an injury, how can I pay

1209
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: a guy when I'm up against the salary cap. I'll

1210
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't exactly know how to explain that

1211
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: because I don't know the exact logistics of it. Clearly,

1212
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: it makes sense once it's explained by a cap guy,

1213
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: But I know that, like when your roster opens up,

1214
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: you know a guy's salary if he's playing. You're paid

1215
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: to play games. So Cousins is getting sixty million dollars

1216
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: whether he plays, whether he doesn't, whether he goes injury reserve.

1217
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: But a lot of guys salaries it depends whether are

1218
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: you active on game day? Are you dressed on game day?

1219
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: Are you on injured reserve? A lot of these salaries

1220
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: get cut in half, like we're not just paying you

1221
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: to be on even though it's not your fault you

1222
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: got injured, but you get paid less, like ultimately you're

1223
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: compensated to play these games. Now. Ray Lewis once famously said,

1224
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: you pay me Monday through Saturday. Sundays are for free.

1225
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: But that's a better question for a cap guy. I

1226
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: don't know the exact answer to that one, or like

1227
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: how to describe it properly. I've been a Titans fan

1228
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: my entire life. I feel like we are such a

1229
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: weird spot with quarterback being the mad question mark. It

1230
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: had me thinking what can we realistically do? I don't

1231
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: think we get ahead of the Raiders of the Giants

1232
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: for Sanders reward. I also don't think Donald would be

1233
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: playing at the same level he is. He would be

1234
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: in Tennessee without Kevin O'Connell. I also don't see at

1235
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: a Ran Carthon could risk his job with another year

1236
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: of Levis. If you were the GM of the Titans,

1237
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: what would you do. I do think you'd have to

1238
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: entertain Sam Donald. I do think Sam Donald in your division,

1239
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: you would have to think long and hard about Will

1240
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 1: Levis is never going to be your quarterback again after

1241
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: this year. Like I don't even think he's on the team.

1242
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: I think he's a he'd probably get cut. Like the

1243
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: Will Levis experiment ends right now, you know? Or yeah

1244
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't, we'll see it. You know how many games

1245
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: does he plays? He benched? You know what his situation

1246
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: is these last three games. But there will never be

1247
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: Will Levis anymore in a Titans uniform. So you go.

1248
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, the draft is after a free agency. So

1249
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: in free agency, if Sam Darnold is available, like, would

1250
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: you be willing to give him a Baker Mayfield contract?

1251
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: We saw Callahan, you know with Joe Burrow, we know

1252
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: how he wants to play on offense. Your officers are

1253
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: kind of limited, Like, this is not going to be

1254
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: some loaded situation. The draft is terrible. We'll see if

1255
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: m quinn Ewers might not come out. He's not even

1256
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: a good player. Carson Beck who knows? You know? Is

1257
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: cam Ward a top ten draft pick? That seems kind

1258
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: of bold? Dion not Deon Shadour. I mean, all signs

1259
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: point to him being the number one pick. Would Dion

1260
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: even allows Shador to go to you? I don't know.

1261
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I mean, I'm not saying you're screwed,

1262
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: but I think you're in a little trouble. Do you

1263
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanaan is unfairly escaping criticism this season? He

1264
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: has been brilliant for years, but much like Belichick, he

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: is very slow to adapt or adjust. A lot of

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01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: the struggles this year are on injuries. Playing simple. But

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: Kyle had a funky year where he refused to adjust

1268
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: even though he had gotten predictable. Teams know exactly what

1269
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna run. Every time Deebo was in the backfield,

1270
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: they kept force feeding players like CMC and Deebo even

1271
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: when it was clear it wasn't effective. He has never

1272
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: been good halftime adjuster. His teams just tend to have

1273
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: the lead, so it doesn't matter. I wonder if his

1274
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: commitment to the game plan is hampering his quarterbacks development

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01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: and ability to make decisions, for example, calling audibles or

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01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: even using his legs. I don't think he scrambled at

1277
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: all that Rams game. You would think he would dial

1278
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: up a play using Brock's legs. I always thought the

1279
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 1: might of the forty nine ers weapons were a bit overstated.

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: Outside of McCaffrey, who's a monster, they are average at

1281
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: receiving and have a very good tight end. You could

1282
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: probably name eight nine teams with a better overall core weapons.

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01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: I think the receivers you know Ayuk's heard, but when

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01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: Ayuk's there Juwan Jennings Kittle, I mean, ultimately, if your

1285
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: tight ends a grid pass catcher, he's a receiving option.

1286
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. I wonder if this is being

1287
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: slowed by the lack of weapons or is the play color.

1288
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: He needs that physicality and ability to separate for his

1289
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: schemes to run the way he wants them. They went

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: from the best Yack team to one of the worst.

1291
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: Is this true? How do they fix? I think he's very,

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01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: very reluctant, and this is the way he builds his

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: team like. He doesn't want to play like you know,

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01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: old school Andy Reid. I don't want to throw the

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: ball forty times a game. I want to play where

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01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: the running game dictates the passing game. It's a very

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01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: old school way of thinking. Even if the running back

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01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 1: is coming back, that's just because our run game is effective.

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01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of teams like oh run games

1300
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: working today. We will keep running the ball. Kyle is

1301
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: dead set on making sure the run game works, and

1302
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: a lot of his pass plays are dependent on those

1303
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: run plays working. And if those pass plays are not

1304
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna get used, if the run game gets stuffed, and

1305
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: then a lot of his passing game is tied to,

1306
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: like the boosts and the waggles off the running game, well,

1307
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of times this year when

1308
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: you're playing Brock Purty, you know that, like, hey, do

1309
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: not bite on play action fakes because he's gonna roll

1310
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: right to you. And how many times they have tried

1311
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: to run like an outside zone that's a fake run

1312
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: the play action play with Brock then turning around and

1313
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: running the other way and the defenders right in his face.

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: It's like, Kyle, that you've been running this play and

1315
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: again I'm not saying scrap the play, but it is

1316
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: not as effective after four fucking years of using the play.

1317
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: And I just think that a lot of times, like

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01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: they can't just drop back and throw so well, I

1319
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: don't have a great answer. Obviously, Kyle knows what he's

1320
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: doing and knows his offense really well. He's clearly just

1321
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 1: been out of sync this year, and I think losing

1322
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: McCaffrey early on in the season really throw him off.

1323
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't have a great answer

1324
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: for you. I do think it gets back to though

1325
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: personnel and their offensive line sucks. So beside Trent Williams

1326
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: just to be like we're gonna drop back forty times

1327
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: a game, Kyle will be like, oh, guy's gonna get killed.

1328
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, well, start drafting some more offensive linemen.

1329
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: You draft Ricky Pierce on the first rounding can find

1330
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: Ricky Pierce on the fourth. So my bigger issue is

1331
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: not investing an offensive line. In fairness to Kyle, you

1332
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: watch some of these teams play right, they drop back

1333
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: and their guy just gets killed, and it's like they

1334
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: just call pass play after pass play. That's probably what

1335
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: would happen if they just called pass play after pass

1336
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: play with his offensive line. So some of these, like

1337
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: some of his minions, like Bobby Slowik is like, Bro,

1338
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: you keep calling pass play with your offensive line, You're

1339
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: gonna get fucking CJ. You know they're gonna bury him

1340
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: in the ground. Look at Gino. I mean, Gino's clearly

1341
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: run around for his life. My question is kind of twofold.

1342
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: As a Seattle fan. We used to be one of

1343
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: the best home field advantages in the league. Now we

1344
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: can't win at home to save our life. So one,

1345
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: what do you think is to blame for Seattle's home

1346
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 1: struggles this year? Also, I don't see Gino or Sam

1347
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 1: Howe being the quarterback long term. Well, I think we

1348
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: agree with Sam Howe. I think there's a chance Geno's

1349
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 1: your quarterback for a couple more years. I think sometimes

1350
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,879
Speaker 1: we take for granted of like your team was elite.

1351
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: So for like four or five years you had Russell

1352
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: Wilson in this unreal defense. You were winning most of

1353
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: your games home or away, but at home, like your

1354
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: fans viewed you as the best team in the league.

1355
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: So it was a massive deal when that team played right.

1356
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: It's still a big deal when you play a home game,

1357
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: but most of the people walking into that building don't go,

1358
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: this is the best team we've ever seen. So I

1359
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: think sometimes we overthink, like you had the best team

1360
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: in the history of your franchise for like legitimately a

1361
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: three or four year run, and this isn't the same

1362
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: and part of dominating, like your defense was elite. So

1363
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: when your defense is elite, people aren't gonna score on you.

1364
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: And it's super loud. I can't a good home field.

1365
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to hear anything, so it's

1366
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: kind of a double whimming. Well, your defense hasn't been

1367
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: as good the last four or five years, so the

1368
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: home field advantage is neutralized a little bit. I think

1369
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: it's really just that simple, right I mean, your team

1370
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: was a lot better. Team's not bad. Now. I think

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: you've what won nine games. If you win nine games

1372
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: this year, that was like three years in a row.

1373
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: But there was a stretch there when and this was

1374
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 1: pre uh seventeen game season, so basically when you really

1375
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: started kicking everyone's ass was twenty twelve, eleven and five,

1376
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: twelve and three, twelve and four, So you had a

1377
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: three year run of just domination. Twenty fifteen, you're pretty good.

1378
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: Two you went ten and six, then you went ten

1379
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: and five and one. Then you kind of had the

1380
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: down year as you started pivoting off some of the

1381
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: players nine and seven, and then you're really good at

1382
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: the end of the decade ten and six, eleven and five,

1383
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: twelve and four. Now you were losing earlier in the

1384
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: playoffs in the previous years, but still like you were

1385
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: really good. And now these last like the last couple

1386
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: years of Pete and now Mike, you know, seven and ten,

1387
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: nine and eight, nine and eight, and now you're probably

1388
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: at nine and eighteen. So I mean, there's a big

1389
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: difference between the teams we've seen these last three years.

1390
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: Did are nine and eight in the lob Marshawn Lynch teams,

1391
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: I goes. I think we all agreed that. If I

1392
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: take the twenty thirteen Seattle Seahawks and they played the

1393
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald Gino Smith Seattle Seahawks, if we're putting a

1394
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: line on DraftKings on that game, like I like the

1395
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: lob Earl Thomas, Richard Truman, Marshaun Lynch, Seattle Seahawks buy

1396
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown, you know, if not more? And if I

1397
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: told every fan what team they're ones wearing green and

1398
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 1: the others wearing white, you can wear one of the

1399
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: two jerseys and that shows what team you're rooting for.

1400
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,839
Speaker 1: What team do you think they'd be rooting for. We're

1401
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: all human beings, like we know what we're rooting for.

1402
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: It's like, why are the Chiefs losing? Because their fucking

1403
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: fans never think they're gonna lose when they enter the stadium,

1404
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: and in fairness to them, they never do. For the

1405
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 1: money bag, what's your gym and diet routine? If you

1406
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: follow any oh, I go to the gym. I try

1407
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: to go seven days a week. I'd say waits three days,

1408
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 1: uh cardio the other four and sometimes with weights we

1409
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: get cardio as well. With the wedding not too far away.

1410
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 1: I've kind of upped the intensity of the StairMaster. Usually

1411
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: do the StairMaster on cardio days for sixty minutes. You know,

1412
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: weights kind of lighter, higher rep just try to tighten

1413
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: up the bod. Diet is just very hit or miss.

1414
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: I have a sweet tooth. It's probably my downfall. Not

1415
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: a huge drinker. I would say I can go on

1416
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: stretches where I'm pretty good at, like fasting not eating.

1417
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: Not eating breakfast is pretty easy for me when I'm

1418
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: when I'm light and losing weight. I mean I was

1419
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: skinny a couple of years ago. I would supplement lunch

1420
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: with like chocolate milk to get some protein, and uh,

1421
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, whatever she makes for dinner, we get Hello Fresh.

1422
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: So we eat Hello Fresh a couple of times a week.

1423
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: Go to the store and make some food, eat out

1424
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:55,520
Speaker 1: maybe once or twice a week. I mean, pretty normal diet.

1425
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: I would say Carbs and sugars are things that I

1426
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: when I get bigger, I eat too much of. And

1427
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: when I slim down, I can avoid sugar is a

1428
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: key thing for me. If I can avoid sugars, I

1429
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: can drop like ten pounds quick when I'm eating. You know, holidays,

1430
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:17,959
Speaker 1: obviously you just eat cakes and pies and fucking candy around. Huh.

1431
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: So diet is something that is just I could be.

1432
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: I could be a lot better at I have incredible

1433
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: discipline getting to the gym on a daily basis, even

1434
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 1: if at the gym I'm not like, I'm not claiming

1435
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: to be Arnold Swartznaker, but I can get there and

1436
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: work out no problem, because I have to do it

1437
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: for my mentals. I'll lose my mind, Like I get

1438
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't like the way I feel if I don't

1439
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: get a sweat every day in some form or fashion,

1440
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: even if it's just sometimes it's going like an hour

1441
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: walk around like where I live, but I gotta move

1442
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: or my mind doesn't work. But as you get older,

1443
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: you realize you can outrun a bad diet. And to me,

1444
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: that's I even feel it from like thirty six to

1445
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: forty years old. It's dramatic and there was a big

1446
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: which for those listening in their twenties, like it starts.

1447
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: Hitting your late twenties to your early thirties is a

1448
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: dramatic change. I remember being in the NFL seeing like

1449
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,480
Speaker 1: older guys be very good about their diet and realizing

1450
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: that they knew that you got to be like you can.

1451
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: I remember Deshan Jackson could heat fucking French fries, you know,

1452
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: three meals a day. That'd be his only meal, like

1453
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: French fry. It wouldn't even matter, right, But some guys

1454
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful. And I definitely don't have the

1455
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: genetics where I can't just eat like shit and at

1456
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: my core kind of like, I don't really like eating

1457
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: like shit as you get older because I don't feel great,

1458
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: but I have no problem taking in the food. And

1459
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: then after you're like, I kind of regret that I'm

1460
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: loving Bo Nicks and Sean Payton combination. Do you think

1461
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: his ceiling is higher than the draft analyst thought? I

1462
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: would say, I think Bo Nick's a good example. And

1463
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,919
Speaker 1: this is like a lot of players. Some guys can transcend,

1464
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson was going to be a really talented,

1465
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: explosive NFL player whether he played for the Ravens or

1466
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: whether he played for the Jacks. But do you know

1467
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: what turns out about Trevor Lawrence, Like he might have

1468
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: really needed to go to a stable organization, and I

1469
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: think party who we talk a lot about here bow knicks.

1470
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: Some guys are desperate if they're going to succeed, to

1471
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: go to a good coach and go to someone that

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Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. Like if you put bow knicks

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Speaker 1: on Jacksonville, or you put bow knicks on like just

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Speaker 1: put them on some the Giants, it would look awful.

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Speaker 1: It would not look good, right, Just like if you

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Speaker 1: gave bow knicks to Andy Reid, he be a good player.

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Speaker 1: Give bow next to Champayn and he'd be a good player.

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Speaker 1: If you gave bow nicks to Kyle Shannon, he'd be

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Speaker 1: a good player. If you give Brock Purty to Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: he'd be a good player. So I think most guys

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Speaker 1: that aren't just trying, like Kyler Murray, who's up and

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Speaker 1: down player, like on any given play, he can look

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Speaker 1: like the best player in the league. Most guys don't

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Speaker 1: have that capability. So most guys are very, very dependent

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Speaker 1: on who's calling the place, who's coaching them up. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: everyone listening, have a great day. Talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: The volume