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Speaker 4: It pretty simple to me. Two. I already got email

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Speaker 3: But some of this shit, it's like, literally we're just

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Speaker 3: that were turfs, and I was like, what the fuck

439
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: is a urf? But but yeah, like they absolutely exclude

440
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 3: anybody that's trans from the entire conversation. And it's you know,

441
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: whether and it goes both ways, whether you transition to man,

442
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: where you transition to woman, then the un binary whatever,

443
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: they like, none of this is beneficial for you. Get

444
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 3: the fuck out. So uh yeah, Uh, being in a

445
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: physically abusive relationship that that can't happen to somebody that's

446
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: gender does does gender not conforming.

447
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: A trans right?

448
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 4: A lot of.

449
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 6: Times it's a higher percentage that it will. I mean,

450
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 6: it happens to women period. But you know when we

451
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 6: talk about trans it's a higher percentage, Like you're more likely,

452
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 6: it's just the rates increase.

453
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is the what's the privilege in that?

454
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: Like and what and where's your proof that that's something

455
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen to trans people? Uh discouraged from entering

456
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: uh stem fields so once it basically science fields, engineering

457
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 3: ship like that, medicine I think medicine, I can't remember

458
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 3: what everything, and then still but the point being, oh,

459
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: they discourage these they discourage girls from entering these fields.

460
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: So therefore, if you're trans and you're a boy and

461
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: you're and you're in school, they're gonna encourage you.

462
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: That's not true.

463
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 3: Well I'm just saying that's what they're saying, while trans

464
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 3: people are going, that's not what happened to me. It

465
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: just doesn't like they're literally talking over them. I don't

466
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: think they're even reading this shit. I honestly don't. We

467
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: Like I felt like we read that and talked about

468
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: it yesterday for nothing to some people, because they didn't

469
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: hear a fucking word we said. They just are like, nope,

470
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: I have talking points and this is it to hear. Yeah,

471
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 3: discouraged from competing in sports? What?

472
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 4: Okay? All right?

473
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: Uh sexual harassment. So apparently they did not get sexually harassed.

474
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: If your uh.

475
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 3: Trans and your kid, if you were in malebody, then

476
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: you didn't get sexually harassed. Okay, there are no sexual comments, uh,

477
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: inappropriate unwanted touching.

478
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: None of that happened, So don't worry about that.

479
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: Judge negatively for being assertive or aggressive that never happened

480
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: for none, none of that.

481
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

482
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 3: And body shaming, there was nobody shaming for if you're,

483
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: if you're. It sounds so ridiculous because I in my mind,

484
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: I think about kids that we grew up with that

485
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 3: were like gender queer, and they always caught hell like

486
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: it was just like it was fucked up, but it

487
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 3: was also like a fact of life, like that that

488
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: poor kid, that person is going to get hell for

489
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: just being themselves kids from a young age. And that's

490
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: before we had words in my in my vocabulary and

491
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: in my neighborhoods vocabulary for for even the concept of

492
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: like trans That was back when you just had gay

493
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: and people.

494
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: Were category regards to where you fell on the spectrum.

495
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 3: Right, they just call you gay, and then they would

496
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: just fucking harass the fuck out of those kids. And

497
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: I didn't, I mean, whatever privilege that people think they had,

498
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't see them getting to live out

499
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: that any of these positive things. I did see people

500
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: touching and harassing people. I did see people. I did

501
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: see kids body shaming and picking on people's mannerisms and

502
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 3: beating people and sexually harassing people and shit like I

503
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: did see that, So I just don't.

504
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: I think what happens is people wanted to be one story,

505
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 4: one story of.

506
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: Specifically for trans women in this case, but I think

507
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: trans people in gen they wanted to be one story,

508
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: which is the story of you perfectly fit in, you grow,

509
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: you grow up, no one knows anything, no one has

510
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: any idea, and then one day you just come to

511
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: your family and you're rich and you're white and you're successful,

512
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: and you say, I'm gonna transition to a woman starting today.

513
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about this shit yesterday, or I don't.

514
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't a woman.

515
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: I just woke up the day and said, wouldn't it

516
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 3: be neat to be another gender? And I'm gonna just

517
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: do that today because I can do it. And everyone

518
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 3: claps in applause and says no problem, and people are

519
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 3: are somehow that is the idea they have of what

520
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: it means to be trans in America, And it just

521
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what many, many, many, many, many many trans people,

522
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: especially trans people of color, say about it. They don't

523
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: give a fuck what you have to say, give a

524
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: fuck what like, They don't give a fuck basically about

525
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: your humanity, your life, or your words, they're just decided

526
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: that your experience does not count. And then there's also

527
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: this excuse about how chim Amanda is from uh Nigeria

528
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: and that's you know, and that's all fucked up and ship.

529
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: But you know what she was speaking for everybody at

530
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: the time. Man, Like that's the thing you get elevated.

531
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: If anything, you should be able to say, well, look,

532
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: I know she has this really popular qude about there

533
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: not being one story if anything. You would think that

534
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 3: would apply to to trans women as well. Right, there's

535
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: not one story to womanhood, so being trans is another story.

536
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: And then within that space there's a there's many many

537
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: many other ways that that that that that happens, that

538
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: that there's that this life of a woman can be

539
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: uh can go down different paths. It would seemed like

540
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: that should apply to all of it. But yeah, I

541
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: mean it does not harm me necessarily that people want

542
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: to deny this, but don't write up here to us

543
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: with the bull.

544
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 4: That's all.

545
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: Like I said, if she's your fave, she your faith,

546
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna buy her book, You're gonna do.

547
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: All that shit no matter what we say. I'm not trying.

548
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: I'm not here to convince you of any of that ship.

549
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: I'm just reading the words of the people who are

550
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: living this life and telling you what they're experiencing and

551
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: believing them.

552
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: That's it.

553
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Speaking, which we read some of Racaeil Racael Willis Uh

554
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Timay yesterday, Well, she wrote a piece for the Route

555
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: trans women are women.

556
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: This isn't a debate.

557
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: Nigerian writer and feminists Chimbermandanngozi Adichi uh has been a

558
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: favorite of mine since I first saw her we should

559
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: all be feminist speech. It was just a few months

560
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: shy Beyonce's The Least or Iconic Anthem, which heavily sampled

561
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: Adichi stripped down thesis on what feminism means. I was

562
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: inspired by seeing another Black woman so unapologetically claim the

563
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: feminist label and be willing.

564
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: To discuss it publicly.

565
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: However, I should have known that her analysis on womanhood

566
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: would exclusion transgender women. Plenty of other mainstream feminists have

567
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: shared their own trans sagonistic anti trans women views with

568
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: a conflation of gender, sex and socialization, and their core

569
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: believes about equality. Adichi steak in this bubbled to the

570
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: surface of the Chinnel four News interview that was at

571
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: least on Friday, which we I believe we played.

572
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: Yesterday, right, did we play the interview?

573
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: We just I just read it, all right, all right, Well, y'all,

574
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: remember she began about gayslighting transgender people. On one hand,

575
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: she wanted to give the appearance of inclusion to understanding,

576
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: but on the other she stripped trans women of their

577
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: womanhood by not being able to simply say trans women

578
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: are women, adi categorizing trans women as other from womanhood.

579
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: Trans women are type of women, just as women of color,

580
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: disabled women, Christian women are types of women. Just as

581
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: you would be bigoted to deny those women their womanhood.

582
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: You would be to so you would be to deny

583
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: trans women of theirs. Then Adiici invalidates trans women for

584
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: not having a certain set of experiences. When Sister and

585
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: the women do this, it reminds me of how white

586
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: women in the United States were initially viewed as a

587
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: more valid type of woman than black women. In her

588
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: iconic eighteen fifty one Ain't I a Woman?

589
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: Speech?

590
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: So journal Truth spelled out how inaccurate and privilege it

591
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: is for us to use these limitations in public discourse.

592
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: That man over there says that women need to be

593
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: helped in the carriages and lifted over ditches, and have

594
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: the best place everywhere. Truth says, nobody ever helps me

595
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: in the carriages or over mud puddles, or gives me any.

596
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: Best place, and ain't I women?

597
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: Just as it was wrong for womanhood to be narrowly

598
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: defined within the hegemonic white women's experience, so too is

599
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: it wrong for womanhood to be defined a hegemonic cis

600
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: gender women's experience, since women may be the majority, but

601
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: that hardly means their experience is the only valid one.

602
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: A DC's next major point that womanhood is about the

603
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: way the world treats us. It's problematic and uninformed as well.

604
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: Defining womanhood purely by how we are oppressed strips us

605
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: to our agency and self determination and powers of patriarchy.

606
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: I'm a woman in regardless.

607
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: Of my experience as a sexual harassment and being invalidated

608
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: by men at various points in my life. Further, these

609
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: are experiences that she either thinks trans women can't undergo

610
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: or it matters less when these things happen to us.

611
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: And if we play by the oppression Olympics view of

612
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: who has it worse, many will easily make the case

613
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: that trans women do. In a twenty eleven Survey and

614
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: Justice at every Time, transgender people were reported to be

615
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: twice as likely to be unemployed four times as likely

616
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: to be making less than ten thousand dollars a year. Then,

617
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: at a twenty thirteen report by the National Coalition of

618
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: Anti Violence Programs, transgender women were found to be one

619
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: point eight times more likely to experience sexual violence than

620
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: other survivors. Within the lgbt CAN comunity, trans women account

621
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: for seventy two percent of the homicides, far sur passing

622
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: numbers for assists women.

623
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: Yep, it gets worse than twenty sixteen.

624
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: The dailiest year on record for transgender women in the

625
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: United States, while our sisters in Brazil accounted for one

626
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: hundred and forty four reported murders throughout the year. It

627
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: is true that many trans women are not perceived as

628
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: women for a portion of our lives.

629
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 4: This, however, does not mean that we are afforded the

630
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: experience of men.

631
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: Does this mean that we can get back out get

632
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: back out o one hundred percent women distinction once we're

633
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: out as trans for more than the time we were

634
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: perceived as a different gender. Does this mean that a

635
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: growing group of young trans girls who transition at a

636
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: single digit age will never be respected in that womanhood.

637
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: This is a slippery slope, and if we define the

638
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: experience of trans women in this way, then you're defining

639
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: the experience assists women who may not be able to

640
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: live up to your expectations. I'm not interested in a

641
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: three fils compromise on my womanhood now. Despite my disappointment

642
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: in the DT's assessment of trans women and our experiences,

643
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in throwing out my sister. There's a

644
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: particular swiftness that plays black women who are in public,

645
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: who are public figures that don't that doesn't chase white

646
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: women in similar similar situations. If you want to stand

647
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: on a pedestal of the Nazi DC, you must be

648
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: doing the same to white women like Lena Dunnam and

649
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: Amy Schumer, who are praised while consistently feeding in the

650
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: anti blackness.

651
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: And while you're at.

652
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: It, understanding that liking post on Facebook and retweeting Twitter

653
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: threads isn't the only thing you should be doing to

654
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: confront trans misogyny, Compensate trans women for their work, expand

655
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: access to jobs and resources. Most of our elevate trans

656
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: women to speak for ourselves. Holding people accountable requires a

657
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: certain amount of creativity, patients, and empathy. When I hold

658
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: my black sisters accountable. As a black trans woman, I

659
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: acknowledge positionality in the nuanced way Black women in general

660
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: are overlooked, spoken over, and ignored in mainstream conversations on

661
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: women's issues. Understanding this allows me to approach the conversation

662
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: with a certain sensitivity to our common struggle. Now, I'm

663
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: not interested in collin cist people, but I believe that

664
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: if we show more care than not with our sisters,

665
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: our conversations will be that much more fruit for I

666
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: urge black CIS women to do the same, and also

667
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: realize that not all black trans women are interested in or.

668
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: Owe you this dialogue.

669
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know that's that run up and done

670
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 3: up on the wrong person, you know, because I like,

671
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: that's the thing. Like I follow like certain people that

672
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: are like like they're trans, but they're also like journalists

673
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: or podcasters or whatever.

674
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 4: And you know, for some people there's.

675
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: This burden of like educating people constantly, and whether it's

676
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: like for survival or whether it's for just you know,

677
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: peace of mind or whatever. I just look at it

678
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: and just think at the workload that that must be.

679
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 3: I'll talk about black shit all the time. I very

680
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: rarely engage with somebody and explain myself to them, right,

681
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: and when I do, it is fucking exhausting to be like, well,

682
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: this is what that means, and this is what that means,

683
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: and this is what I mean when I say that,

684
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: And have you sperience this and let me try to

685
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: reach you at this place that you're at so that

686
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: I can change this one single heart or mine, or

687
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: at least be understood. I'm much more quicker to be like, man,

688
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: fuck you. This wasn't a debate, you know, so I

689
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: could understand if if there were a lot of people

690
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: that were like jenderqueer that was out here, like yo,

691
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm just sick of fucking being on education teaching mode

692
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: all god damned day.

693
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: I am not being compensated.

694
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 6: I should not have to explain my humanity, period.

695
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: I do not care what.

696
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 6: Kind of lifestyle I live, what kind of my sexuality is.

697
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: I should not have to explain to you that I'm.

698
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: A fucking human being.

699
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: Don't you love your loved ones?

700
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 6: I love my loved ones. Don't you love yourself. I

701
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 6: love myself. Aren't you happy in your skin?

702
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: I'm happy in my skin too.

703
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 6: I should not have to waste my time explaining this

704
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 6: bullshit to you. I should not have to take you

705
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 6: to racism school one on one, transging to school one

706
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 6: on one, LGBTTQ school.

707
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: One on one. I should not have to waste my

708
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: time doing it.

709
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 6: And if I do, compensate me because it's time consuming.

710
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't know why you wouldn't read and

711
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: just leave it at that. You know, I don't know

712
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: where the impetus to like attack is coming from, or

713
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: the the no no no no no no no no

714
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: no no, you got this wrong. This is the only

715
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: way to be like, I don't know where it's coming from,

716
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: to be honest, you know, and not to mention. Like

717
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: I said, this argument never gets made the other way, right, Like,

718
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: there's never a like if there was a transman, somebody

719
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: who like I transitioned from like will not transit.

720
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 4: I was born. I was born male, a male and

721
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 4: a female body.

722
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: They don't never reach out and be like, well, that

723
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: person can actually tell me if I'm right or wrong,

724
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: because you know what, they lived a long time as

725
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: a woman. Please tell me you get to have say

726
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: so the final say on this discussion.

727
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: They just go no, no, no, no, no, you don't count.

728
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: Just never come like it just seems it seems so

729
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 3: loaded of a discussion. If your feminism does not respect

730
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: trans women in that full womanhood, if it's not truly intersection,

731
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: or if you don't advocate for the liberation and trans people,

732
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: you aren't truly investigating invested in equality. And if you

733
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: don't advocate on behalf of a trans of black trans women,

734
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: then you are truly investigated in black liberation, I mean

735
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: invested in black liberation. And you know, I'm sure, I'm

736
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: sure the trolls and the comments are being very very kind.

737
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 4: You know.

738
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: Uh, this isn't a debate, but it is hmm, okay,

739
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: all right. If you are human that possess x y

740
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 3: male chromosome pairs, you are male, regardless of any surgery,

741
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: drug therapy, make up a tired personal belief feelings, or politics.

742
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: It is simply science.

743
00:37:53,080 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, appreciate appreciate the input. Yeah, you know, I'll

744
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: look at this ship because a lot of people that

745
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 3: would write us but claim to be like we talked

746
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: about that ally ship yesterday. A lot of people that

747
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: would be like, no, I love no, I love trans women,

748
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: I love I love I watch Oranges and New Black

749
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: or whatever the fuck like, you know, I'm a big supporter,

750
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: would be the people that make these arguments but with

751
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: a smile on their face and they say the right words,

752
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: and then it's supposed to not be insulting.

753
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 4: You know, it's not. I'm not really.

754
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: Speaking over you, but I'm speaking over you. I'm really

755
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: just saying, bless your bless your poor head, bless your job,

756
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: bless your heart, essentially.

757
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, so all right, you got it, dog.

758
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: But uh, there's also this article I still think trans

759
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: women have male privilege.

760
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: Here are seven points, uh the prove that they don't.

761
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: And this is from everyday feminism, And uh they start

762
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: by saying that, uh, oh yeah, the ideas that trans

763
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: women with our masculine quote unquote bodies that haven't been

764
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 3: raised as male received all kinds of privilege that sis

765
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: women don't, such as religious safety from sexual harassment, social

766
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: preference in school and the job market, and so on.

767
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: As a result of this perspective, trans women are only

768
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: excluded from women only spaces are often excluded from women

769
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: only spaces on the basis that we might be violent

770
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: or make sis women are comfortable, or that we are

771
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: already served by male institutions.

772
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: So that's another thing that that that I was that's

773
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 4: weird on this too.

774
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: While you're not acting on it, you are essentially agreeing

775
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: with people that are like, stay out of my bathroom.

776
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 3: You're like, you're you're you're not a woman. You are

777
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: threatening me, you are different. You need to have your

778
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: own ship stayed, like I don't feel comfortable. Yeah, Like, like,

779
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: even though you're not acting on it, So you might

780
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: not be out here being like keep them out my bathroom,

781
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: but you are saying there is this this separation that

782
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: people aren't talking about. Oh, it's real, Like it's not

783
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: you're not the same, So don't think that you're included

784
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: in this, and not even saying you're different. But you're

785
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: not included in this is what you're not under the

786
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: umbrella of womanhood. You're perfectly fine to be in your

787
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: own separate category, but this idea of being under this

788
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: this umbrella with me not comfortable with that at all.

789
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 3: You should only you know, you should only do things

790
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: by yourself. So yeah, and then it goes on. It

791
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 3: has like seven the piece has like seven different points.

792
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: Let me just get to the points because it's long.

793
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: Trans women are not real women. This is a simple

794
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: truth that a lot of folks, even allies, even queer

795
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: and gender queer ones, tend to forget or misunderstand what

796
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 3: thinking about how trans women are affected by privileged oppression.

797
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: We are real women as many as as much as

798
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: any SIS woman is, and if we are women, that

799
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: means we cannot receive male privilege, because male privilege is

800
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: by definition something only men in masculine identified people can experience.

801
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: To say trans women receive male privilege, I applies that

802
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: we are partially male or less female than SIS women

803
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: are falsely female. All of the above are incorrect and

804
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: offensive because trans women are women. No ifs, no no if,

805
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: no uthers, and no butts about it.

806
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's another thing.

807
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't think people have listened to or understand that

808
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: trans people are most For the most part, I was

809
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: saying I was born a woman or a man like

810
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: I was, or gendernock like I was born like this

811
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: wasn't a At seven, I changed my mind. But I

812
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: don't think people can you know, understand that concept because

813
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: in their mind, I think everyone's looking at the outside.

814
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: So it's like at the second that you get some titties, Okay,

815
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: now you're I get it, you're a woman, but I don't.

816
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: But before that, you was always a man, you know

817
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: what I mean? I think, but I think that's how

818
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: they look at it, you know, That's why they That's

819
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: why one of the most common questions asked of like

820
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: celebrities and shit is like, well, have you had the

821
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: surgery yet? Because it's like, I'm not gonna truly just

822
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: say that you're a man or a woman unless your

823
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: body aligns with that through some type of surgery or something,

824
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: which is so wild because you're not gonna respect that

825
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: shit either, even after.

826
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: They have surgery. You just gonna be like.

827
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: How many people don't respect Kaitlyn Jenner as a to

828
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: like just the fact that.

829
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: She's a woman.

830
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 3: How many people don't respect that because they're just like a, Nope,

831
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't care if you have surgery or don't have surgery,

832
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: you are. I don't respect you period. How many you know,

833
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: as much as black people go up for certain trans

834
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 3: women or color and shit, how many other people are

835
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: still like you damn man, and making jokes and shit

836
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: like that, thinking that this harmless when it's kind of

837
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: fucked up, you know.

838
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: Too.

839
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: Trans women are not socialized as men. The idea of

840
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: trans women being socialized as male is the biggest argument

841
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: that turfs bring out when trying to justify the exclusion

842
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: of trans women from feminism, and is also the most compelling.

843
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: After all, it's true that trans women I proceed as

844
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: male at birth and we are treated as such. However,

845
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: most feminine children experience being treated as male extremely different

846
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: from CIS gender boys. CIS boys generally do not question

847
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: or feel that's comfort with the way the society treats them.

848
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: They are able to accept and enjoy their privilege, usually

849
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: without even noticing it. Being called boys for them is

850
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: not accept accompanied by fear, self doubt, or feeling that

851
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 3: there is something deep, something deeply fundamentally wrong with them.

852
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: Young trans girls, on the other hand, tend to experience

853
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: being treated as male as disorienting and terrifying, because it

854
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 3: teaches us that our identities are revoting to are revoting

855
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: to society.

856
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, for all that privilege.

857
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: Shit, if you're a woman and your male bodied and

858
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: you hear what the way that men talk when they

859
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: don't think women are listening. I can't imagine that shit

860
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: would be hard. Fine, you know, I was just playing

861
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: ball today and this dude and this, I'm not saying

862
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: this is horrifying, but this, this is just how much

863
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: is in our society. We were playing ball today right

864
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: at lunch, and this dude he was shooting bad. He

865
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: was missing a lot of shots, and we lost the game.

866
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: And he just goes, man, I shot like a girl today,

867
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: which is one like something I haven't heard since fifth grade.

868
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: But then two were grown ass men, right, Like he

869
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: could have said I shot like shit, my bad, I

870
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: was off my fall whatever, right, but he chose that.

871
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: And I'm saying, our girls that can shoot, what are

872
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: we talking about?

873
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 7: Right?

874
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: So it took us.

875
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, the cliche of girls playing basketball

876
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 3: would be that they can shoot. Uh, there's a lot

877
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: of other there's a lot of other stereotypes that people

878
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: might have against women as far as athleticism. We're dunking

879
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: or something, but fundamental shit like shooting, that's not a thing.

880
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 4: Anyway. He's like, I shot like your.

881
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: Girl today, And you know, silence hung in the air

882
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: for a couple of seconds, and it was just me

883
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: and this dude Ivan and then this guy and a

884
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean girls can shoot though, so

885
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: and then Ivan was like, yeah, you see that girl

886
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: from U come, She went like ten for ten for

887
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: three the other day. And I was like, man, you can't.

888
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: I was like, they just steamrolling people though, like all them,

889
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 3: all of them can shoot. And dude was like, and

890
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: I mean this only took less than a minute, this

891
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: whole conversation now, and the dude was like, yeah, you're right,

892
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: girls can't.

893
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: He was like, if I could shoot like a girl,

894
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 4: who would have won.

895
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, if all of us shoot like

896
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: them girls, we wouldn't be playing ball at lunchtime because

897
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: we'd be better than this. And that was it, like

898
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: a little choker when we moved on. But that's just

899
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: how That's just.

900
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 4: A little thing.

901
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 3: But he felt comfortable enough in a room of dudes

902
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: to say that because the assumption is that most of

903
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: us would either agree with him or not say anything, right,

904
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: so understand that that meant he was bad because he

905
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: shot like a girl.

906
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: Right well that.

907
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: Cause right now I'm now imagine like that you're a

908
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: girl but you're male bodied and and you got these

909
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: motherfuckers sitting around you saying way worse shit than that.

910
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: You know, that gotta be terrifying. You gotta be like,

911
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: I hope they don't figure this shit out. I hope

912
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: you know, what do they think about me? Just people

913
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: watch people watch the Moonlight, and that's not even about

914
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: a trans person.

915
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 4: That's just about a person that was gay.

916
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 3: And we got to see what terror that was for

917
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: that kid, you know, like what was the what was

918
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: this access and protection and all the ship that they

919
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: were afforded supposedly, you know what I mean?

920
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 4: It just feels so exclusionary.

921
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: But you know, and for the record, like I said,

922
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to change people's minds.

923
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: This is just the way we think.

924
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: And this is our podcast, so we talking about it,

925
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: but it's not I'm not saying this to debate.

926
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: It just seems so this is why it seems ridiculous.

927
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: To me to to fight this battle, you know, like

928
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: this is the truly like I don't This is like

929
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: when people say, well, look y'all should still support this

930
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: cause because we all black, and people are like, yeah,

931
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: but you've been treating me bad because I'm a black woman,

932
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: or you've been treat me bad because I'm black, and

933
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: on LGBT you treat me bad because i'm you know,

934
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm black and I'm from the South or whatever. And

935
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: then people are like, oh, you're being divisive. Can you

936
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: just shut up and support what the thing I want

937
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: to talk about anyway? Yeah, male socialization for us is

938
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: actually a coded message you're not who you think you are,

939
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: and if you try to be anything other than what

940
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 3: we say, you'll be punished.

941
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: Let me make it no analogy.

942
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: Imagine you're born with dark hair, but everyone you know,

943
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: from your parents and your teachers to your friends, tell

944
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: you that if you are blonde, starting from that moment

945
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: or your birth. As you grow up, you can see

946
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: that your hair is the same color as other dark

947
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: hair people. But the people around you insist don't give

948
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: you compliments for being blonde, And every time you say

949
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: that you think you might actually be brunette, they beat

950
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: you up. Told you're told that your mentally ill or

951
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: in the moral and subjected to experimental medical procedures designed.

952
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: To quote unquote fix you.

953
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other part of people When people say

954
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: like this privilege and shit there's a lot of families

955
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: where they like abuse kids for saying some shit like this. Yeah, like,

956
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: you know, not saying Tracy Morgan would actually hurt his

957
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: kid or anything, but like he felt comfortable enough to

958
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: say he stabbed his son for being gay on stage

959
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 3: and to a crowd of people for a joke and

960
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: thought that people would laugh at it. And maybe they did,

961
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, but the point being like, we ain't

962
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: came that far to feel like, oh, those kids will

963
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: be safe, just tell your mama, and they don't understand.

964
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 4: You know.

965
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: It feels a lot like that article we read where

966
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: the country was kicking people out and sending them back

967
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 3: to that country. It was like Europe was kicking people

968
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: out and saying go back to Afghanistan and they were like,

969
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 3: but we're gay and we'll get killed for being gay.

970
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 4: And they were like, well, just act straight.

971
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: Feel a lot like that, right, Like, well, obviously these

972
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: kids just need to act straight until they get get

973
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: a chance where they can transition out to the world.

974
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: Just act straight. I mean, it's that easy, right.

975
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, three trans women experienced misogyny before they present

976
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: as women. So here's a confession. When I was a little,

977
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: and everyone thought I was a boy. I didn't just

978
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: love Barbie. I wanted to be Barbie. There are all

979
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 3: kinds of internalized racism and fat phobia went into this.

980
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: This is common enough experience among children of the eighties

981
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: and nineties. All the other little girls I knew one

982
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: of the same thing. But every time I picked up

983
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: or even looked at a Barbie, I was called fag

984
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: or gay lord this is the nineties by the other boys,

985
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: reprimanded by my teachers, and punished by my parents. The

986
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: way I played, dress, walked, and talked with scrutinized or

987
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 3: criticized for any sign of femininity, of which of course

988
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: there were many.

989
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: Everything I was interested in, everything I did, or like

990
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: or wanted, was denounced for being girly.

991
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: I was often singled out or bullied by other children

992
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: for abuseful adults, because I was perceived as feminine and

993
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: therefore an object of entertainment and exploitation. From this, I learned,

994
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: as all girls do, that to be a girls to

995
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: be child of a lesser god. In this society, I

996
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: learned that girls a weak, stupid, frivolous, unimportant, and unnecessary.

997
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: And I, of course was a girl.

998
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: Even if no one would admit it when I went

999
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: to illustrate with this, and what I want to illustrate

1000
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: with this is that trans women experience misogyny even before

1001
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 3: we begin presenting or being read as women in society.

1002
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: We receive the same messages about femininity in girlhood assists

1003
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: women do, and we understand them to be about ourselves,

1004
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: however hidden those selves might be. For trans women don't

1005
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: experience less violence or discrimination assists women, she said, But

1006
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: I can already hear the church crying out trans women

1007
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: who are read as male are safer than from street

1008
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 3: harassing and sexual assault. Trans women who read his mail

1009
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: perceive preferential treatment in school and unemployment.

1010
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: This is actually not at all true.

1011
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: Trans women are one of the groups most likely to

1012
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: be discriminated against in the job market, housing, health care,

1013
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: social services, and pretty much every other field. As from

1014
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: professional personal experience, I can tell certainly tell you that

1015
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: we are not safer from harassing or assault. Actually, any

1016
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: person paying attention to the news should know that at

1017
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: a certain point in my life, it was true that

1018
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: I really really wanted to and if I really really

1019
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: wanted to, I could put on boy clothes when I

1020
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: went out into the world and get red as male.

1021
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: I used to think of this as male privilege because

1022
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: I could opt out of being street harassed, though at

1023
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: the cost of being misgendered. Then I realized that this

1024
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: is kind of like telling women they should be safer

1025
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: if they would only wear conservative clothing. It's saying that

1026
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: I could trade my freedom and identity for safety. Awesome

1027
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: privilege not in any case, this is something that I

1028
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: now cannot do. Having physically and medically transition, as many

1029
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: trans women do in some way or other, it doesn't

1030
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: matter what I wear. I would still be harassed just

1031
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: as much. Five trans women who aren't perceived as film

1032
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: don't experience more privilege than those who do. A friend

1033
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: of mine who was once involved in a nasty Facebook

1034
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: flame ward it lasts for several days. In it, some

1035
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 3: people were saying that because she is a butcher trans

1036
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: woman and doesn't pass assist, she experiences more gender privilege

1037
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: than film trans women. As a film trans woman who

1038
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: passes a lot of the time, I feel the need

1039
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: to stand in solidarity with all my transistors in state.

1040
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: First of all, that butch is an identity ori originating

1041
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: from the lesbian community that people can choose to identify

1042
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: with or not. It is not necessarily the same as

1043
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: being non passing a pre transition trans women, and if anything,

1044
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 3: trans women who can or don't pass assist women are

1045
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: often or even more likely to experience danger and discrimination

1046
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: than those of us who do because they are more

1047
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: visibly marked as deviant in the mainstream culture. They are

1048
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 3: more likely to be read as women who are betraying

1049
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 3: masculinity or as bad female impersonators. Claiming that some trans

1050
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: women are more masculine than others because of the way

1051
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: they look or dress is very similar to saying that

1052
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: real women have to shave their legs and wear makeup.

1053
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: It reinforces the police in the women's bodies and excludes

1054
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: many women from the conversation about what womanhood means to them.

1055
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: Six.

1056
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: Trans women may participate in misogyny, but they do so

1057
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: as women. None of the above exempts or excuses trans

1058
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: women for participating in misogyny. We are just as cable

1059
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 3: as anyone else of shaming and gender police and other women.

1060
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: Case in point, the first time I ever went to

1061
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: a local transc community center in my city, a trans

1062
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: woman I had never met before poked my chest and

1063
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 3: demanded to know why I didn't have breast yet. When

1064
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: I told her I wasn't sure if I wanted them,

1065
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: she sniffed and told me that every woman should have breast.

1066
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 4: I would be a very pretty woman, she told me

1067
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: once I have breast.

1068
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: This is because trans women are exposed to so much

1069
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 3: cultural misogony in patriarchy that we inevitably end up internalizing it.

1070
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes we even make conscious decisions to uphold patriarchy so

1071
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: we can better fit in with the rest of society.

1072
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: New flash this women do the very same thing. Yeah,

1073
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: all women, really, everybody. I mean, that's the thing I

1074
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: was saying because I think Leslie had commented on my

1075
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: post about the dude that was talking about I shot

1076
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: like a girl, and she was like, you know, it's quick,

1077
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: how it's funny. How quick he just like self corrected

1078
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 3: after just being challenged just a little bit.

1079
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 4: And I was like, I think that's because it's in everybody.

1080
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: Don't think there's anybody that don't have like we're all

1081
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: fucked up because we're all in a fucked up world

1082
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: in society.

1083
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: And I think while many people.

1084
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: Have decided to take on this goal of like competing

1085
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: with everyone, and they really do seem to be like

1086
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: making a huge uh ordeal out of like battling people

1087
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 3: all day. Some people just want to be better than

1088
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: they were yesterday, which is that's like the way I

1089
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: look at my life is like I just want to

1090
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: be the kind of person that I can look back

1091
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: on and be like, yo, that that person was a

1092
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 3: good person. That person was trying to do the right

1093
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: thing and doing the right shit more often than not.

1094
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: Like that's that's like it seemed like a simple goal.

1095
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: But that's it, you know, like I really don't have

1096
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: time to worry about everybody else and getting them in

1097
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: line and shit, because I can barely handle just me

1098
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: and shit. Yeah, so you know, I love that we

1099
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: had this platform and ship, but this every day that

1100
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: you hear it show is just a peek into our

1101
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: lives and the way we think and the way we

1102
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: do shit. It's not really you know, we've never let

1103
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 3: nobody no march, We've never you know.

1104
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: Started any movement or anything.

1105
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 3: Like we we love and support people and we want

1106
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: to definitely be here for all black people. Uh, but

1107
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: but that's it, you know what I mean, Like it's

1108
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: not really like to me it's not really about winning

1109
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: this fight against people, but everybody has it, so it's

1110
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: kind of like winning the fight against yourself, questioning the

1111
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: way you you view shit and why do you view

1112
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: it that way, and trying to get rid of the

1113
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 3: waste and trying to embrace things that that that because

1114
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: I think this shit makes you a better person when

1115
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: you let go some of this ship man. And it's

1116
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: funny because we ask and expect that of people that

1117
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: are in positions that can oppress and harm us, but

1118
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 3: then when it comes to ourselves, we also don't want

1119
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: to do uh.

1120
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 4: And I hate to call it the work, but it's

1121
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: the work, right, It's work.

1122
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily fun. But you know, reading, learning, listening

1123
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: for a lot of people.

1124
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 6: Reflection, which is the number one thing that people don't

1125
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 6: want to do because a lot of resistance to a

1126
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 6: lot of this is that people don't want to self reflect.

1127
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 6: People automatically say no, they're automatically reject they automatically get

1128
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 6: angry out of things they don't understand, and they don't

1129
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 6: self reflect to see how the things that they do

1130
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 6: is fucked up and if it was them on the

1131
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 6: other if it was them, how they would be mad

1132
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 6: that people treated them like that, because the thing about

1133
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 6: self reflection is they're honestly. Nobody wants to see their

1134
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 6: own flaws. Nobody wants to see their own imperfections. Nobody

1135
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 6: wants to see they ain't got at all. Nobody don't

1136
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 6: want to see that you might be quote unquote woking

1137
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 6: this area.

1138
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: But not woke in this other area. Nobody wants to

1139
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: say that.

1140
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 6: They might be ignorant in some areas, and they might

1141
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 6: say ignorant things and do ignorant things out of lack

1142
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 6: of understanding, lack of knowledge, and sometimes flat just not

1143
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 6: wanting to learn or not knowing that they.

1144
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: Should be on top of certain things.

1145
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 6: It is a learning process, and in part of that

1146
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 6: learning process, the self reflection.

1147
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: Is what people don't want to do.

1148
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 6: Because if more people self reflected, a lot of shit

1149
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 6: that happens, a lot of arguments, a lot of pointless

1150
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 6: engagements would not happen if people did a little bit

1151
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 6: more self reflection.

1152
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

1153
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: People just want to be right more than they want

1154
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: to be, you know, more than they want to treat

1155
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: people right. Like I want to make this debate or

1156
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 3: this academic argument more than I want to be a

1157
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: good person, or at least listen to people, or at

1158
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: least move out the way of people. Like people would

1159
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: rather stand in a way and be like, but I'm right.

1160
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: This is how I've learned. It is like everything you've

1161
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: learned you learned from a society. Everything we've learned about gender,

1162
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: we've learned from the same society that has killed women

1163
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: and burned them as which is, we've learned from the

1164
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: same society that wouldn't let women vote. We learned from

1165
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: the same society that wouldn't allow women to get divorces.

1166
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: We learned from the same society that allows you to

1167
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 3: beat your wife. We learned from the same society that

1168
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: says we need to get rid of planned parenthood and

1169
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: a woman doesn't have the right to choose. We learned

1170
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: from the same society that doesn't want to teach people

1171
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: about sex.

1172
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: We learn from the same society that thinks that.

1173
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: Religion should trump people's individual life choices. We learned from

1174
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: the same society that doesn't want to have marriage equality.

1175
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: All of this shit comes from the same source and people.

1176
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: I think people are gonna look back and be ashamed

1177
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: of some of the fucking Stanzas they took because of

1178
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 3: this shit is all happening one way or the other.

1179
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: So I feel like people gonna look back and be

1180
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: ashamed of the way they were because to me, a

1181
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: lot of just standing in the way shit for stuff

1182
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: that essentially does not affect your life on any level.

1183
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: Come on, you're just to me, you just might as

1184
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: well have the water holes. You might as well have

1185
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 3: the dogs. You might as well be standing in front

1186
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: of the school. You might as well be.

1187
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might as well be on the other side

1188
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: of Love versus Virginia like you like.

1189
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: Essentially, for most people, this has no impact on your life.

1190
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: And yet somehow you can't even quote unquote give anybody

1191
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: something like you have to be like, no, I'm right

1192
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: all the time, because this is what I learned, This

1193
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: is what I learned. This is since you what we're saying, like,

1194
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: there's no room for new knowledge, there's no room for change,

1195
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: there's no room for new ideas. I learned the thing,

1196
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: And I don't see how that is very much different

1197
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: than when people say it's tradition or whatever when it

1198
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: comes to racism and stuff.

1199
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I can personally say I've everybody has grown.

1200
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: If you are the same person you were.

1201
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 6: At eighteen, at sixteen, at twenty one, at twenty five,

1202
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 6: at thirty five, that you are now something's wrong.

1203
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: There should be some growth.

1204
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 6: And also in the middle of all of this was

1205
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 6: even more in my opinion, was even more fucked up.

1206
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 6: So many people are gonna have fucking selective memory when

1207
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 6: it comes to looking back on this, then not gonna

1208
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 6: say I'm sorry. They're not gonna say my bad, They're

1209
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 6: not gonna say I have grown and evolved. Then they're

1210
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 6: not gonna say because we live in a society that

1211
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 6: does not want to admit its faults anymore.

1212
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: I've realized.

1213
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 6: People that have humility, people that say my bad, people

1214
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 6: that say I'm sorry and truly mean it with their hearts.

1215
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 6: That's rare nowadays, people to say I fucked up, my bad,

1216
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 6: People that take responsibility for their actions. That is dying,

1217
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 6: And I don't know it's dying because it's a lot

1218
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 6: of people nowadays that do fucked up shit, say fucked

1219
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 6: up things, and keep it trucking tomorrow like they never

1220
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 6: said it.

1221
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just like I said.

1222
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 3: It's it's sad because I think a lot of people

1223
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 3: are gonna pretend that this never happened, right, Uh, but yeah,

1224
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: of course anybody can perpetrate misogyny that you know, women

1225
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: trans women, like everybody. That's how we grew up. It's

1226
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: not up, it's not up number seven. It's not up

1227
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: to say people to define trans women's experiences. And I

1228
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: think this is the most important part, and this is

1229
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 3: the major part that I believe, which is why the fuck.

1230
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh yeah, I just believe people, and

1231
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm just leaving.

1232
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: It at that.

1233
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: It didn't cost me a dime. It didn't change anyone,

1234
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 3: like didn't. All it cost me was how much time

1235
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: it took to read what people had to say or

1236
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: say or listen to what they had to say and

1237
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: go okay, cool, you know an experience I just did

1238
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: not know about. You know, I hate that people's lives

1239
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: have to be educational for other folks, but that's also humanity.

1240
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure my life is educational for some people, and

1241
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: Karen's life is educational for some people, even if we

1242
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 3: don't necessarily think of ourselves as educating folks. But I'm

1243
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: sure there's some people that are, like, I learned this

1244
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 3: thing because of you, you know, I meet me observing

1245
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: you enabled me to see this that of thing or

1246
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 3: the other. Right. But yeah, so it's not a the

1247
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: cist people to determine trans women's experiences.

1248
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 4: There's a very vocal community assists.

1249
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: Folks who are for whatever reason, highly invested in talking

1250
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: about and criticizing trans women's experiences. Many many cists, academics

1251
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 3: and media makers. I spent a lot of time writing

1252
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: articles and books and films about what they think we are.

1253
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: But in the end, it's not up to cists gender

1254
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 3: people to define trans women in our lives. It's up

1255
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: to cists feminists to tell us. It isn't up to

1256
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: cist feminists to tell us when we may or may

1257
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: not call ourselves women. Trans women are entitled to the

1258
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: right to decide for ourselves what we believe in who

1259
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: we are, and even when it is complicated, and even

1260
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 3: when we disagree, and it isn't self determination and is

1261
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 3: a self determination even in the midst of a complicated,

1262
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: violent world.

1263
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 4: The point of feminism.

1264
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: So yep, like I said, that was on Everyday Feminism

1265
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: that I read that and shot to Marissa Janey because

1266
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: she was the person that shared that on Facebook.

1267
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 4: And that's where I read it first?

1268
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: All right, speaking of which, beloved transgender icon performer China

1269
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: Doll Duprex was shot and killed in New Orleans.

1270
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 4: Have we read this before? Is it's just like a

1271
01:02:59,560 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 4: lot of.

1272
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 3: Killing transgender women in Louisiana, like left and right hapening

1273
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: like it feel like a like I don't know, mate,

1274
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: No fifth Young's the fifth trans woman killing twenty seventeen,

1275
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 3: trying to dog the pre ak, trying to gibs him.

1276
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: A beloved, the nationally renowned drag performer from New Orleans

1277
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 3: was shot and killed outside of a shopping center. Damn,

1278
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if we read this before. She was

1279
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 3: shot several times around eight thirty pm. People nearby her

1280
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: eight to ten shots ring out. No suspects are currently known,

1281
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: nor is the motivation. Yeah, so this is different because

1282
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 3: that other one was a quote unquote robbery, but they

1283
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: just having a rob to other another transgender woman. Earlier.

1284
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: Du Prix was living in California, but returned her hometown

1285
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: to celebrate Marty Gras. The Prix was described as a

1286
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: very loving person by unnamed woman who claimed to be

1287
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 3: related to her. She didn't do nothing to nobody. He

1288
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: was just a really good person, friends said to a

1289
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: local news station. Everybody loved her.

1290
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 4: This is unnecessary.

1291
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 3: Loved ones continued to moann to transgend the artists by

1292
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 3: sharing videos or her performances on Facebook and YouTube. My

1293
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 3: heartbreaks as this community must find a way to honor

1294
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: you and death and begin to move forward. One person wrote,

1295
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 3: the stage will never be the same. Yeah, Mike notes

1296
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: that Mike in my scene. The publication that Depri is

1297
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: the fifth transgender woman married in twenty seventeen, she is

1298
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 3: the third trans woman killed this a month, and this

1299
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: might be old. This might be older than the other articles,

1300
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: because I feel like it was nine or something.

1301
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 4: The other day. So that's the other thing that seems

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Speaker 4: so weird.

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: About this idea of people that aren't trying to find

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01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: what people's lives must be like. It's such a small

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01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 3: group of people, how could you tell them what their

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01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 3: life is like? It's like, do you even know one.

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 4: Person that's trends?

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01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: Have you known since they was a kid? For you

1309
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: to be like, this is what your life was. It's

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: so weird to me. It's just it's so fucking weird.

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: It's so people just can't help it, all right, Tampa

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01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: Bay dot com. Jacksonville passes a historic lgbt protection Jacksonville

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01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: City Council has voted to update the cities civil rights

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01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 3: laws to band discrimination against gays and lesbian That's right,

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01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 3: because you could do it up until then. Tuesdays twelve

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01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 3: to six vote. Well, six people vote against it. Huh see,

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01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 3: people protect.

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: Everybody, everybody. I don't know about everybody.

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01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 3: You mean, like all the people regardless of like orientation

1320
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 3: and shit, you.

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01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: Mean all of them.

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01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 3: So you mean you're gonna be letting people out here

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01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 3: have gay sex, and then we're gonna turn around and

1324
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: protect everybody from getting fired for having a gay sex.

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01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I gotta think about this. Let me see,

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Speaker 3: let me see.

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Speaker 8: Uh no no no no no no no no no

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01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 8: no no no no no no.

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01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no. I might have to put I

1330
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: have to say no on that. It don't don't calls me.

1331
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 3: And then, you know, in history will look back on

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01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: this and say I stood for my principles while twelve

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01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: other people said what the fuck is wrong with you?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, discrimination protection marks a historic moment in the LGBTQ community.

1336
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: In a hard fought battle that's taken about five years. Yeah,

1337
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: now this is in Florida. I wonder if any of

1338
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: this uh changed on a lot of people's minds after

1339
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: the Orlando shooting, after they shot up posts. I wonder

1340
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 3: if people was like, because like, that's the thing about Florida,

1341
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: Like a lot a lot of stuff down there is

1342
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 3: starting to get passed, and there's a lot of like,

1343
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: we need to protect this historic landmarkt we need to

1344
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 3: renovate it, we need to give money, and we need

1345
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: to and we're we're gonna pass along.

1346
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 4: We're gonna do that.

1347
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: And they're like, are y'all just doing this because y'all

1348
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 3: feel guilt because a bunch of gay people got killed?

1349
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 3: So y'all wouldn't have done this unless gay people got killed.

1350
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: Somebody had to kill gay people. Then you was like,

1351
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: we should see about them rights.

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: It's a whole lot more than I thought.

1353
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, while we still got some left advocacy group Equality Floor,

1354
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: that said, the LGBT community, plus a coalition over seven

1355
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: hundred small business and two hundred faith leaders, has demonstrated

1356
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: the urgent need for these protections so that everyone, no

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01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: matter that sexual orientation or gender identity, has an opportunity

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01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: to earn a living and provide for their families. All right,

1359
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean that's good news though, I mean shout out

1360
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 3: to them six people.

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 4: That was hating, but that was good news.

1362
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: Church of England could change his stance on homosexuality, y'all. Yep,

1363
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: could go from standing uh on the neck to just

1364
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 3: standing on your back.

1365
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 4: There you go, uh.

1366
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: Leading figures in the Church of England holding a massive

1367
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: debate on their stance on homosexuality and same sex marriage.

1368
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 3: A report by the House of Bitious, which will be

1369
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,479
Speaker 3: presented to the General Synod on Wednesday, says the church

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: could adopt a fresh.

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01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: Tone and culture of welcome and support for gay people.

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 3: However, it adds that it shouldn't change its opposition to

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01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: same sex marriage, and that both gained straight people training

1374
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: to join the priesthood should continue to have to answer

1375
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: questions about their lifestyle and an open letter signed by

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 3: fourteen retired bishops they retired. The proposed changes have been

1377
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 3: criticized for failing to recognize gay people's authentic voices. Protests

1378
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 3: in Westminster outside Oh wait, that's a picture.

1379
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, what am I reading? No, I'm

1380
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 4: reading the caption of a picture Okay, cool, Yeah.

1381
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: Our experiences would lead us to doubt whether there was

1382
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 3: an expectation around that cannons and doctrino statements would be

1383
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: changed within any reasonable time scale, and that focus scenes

1384
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: that have taken far from the time that it would

1385
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 3: have done if the authentic voices of lesbian and gay

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01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 3: people had been allowed to express the major focus of

1387
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: their hopes. The report published last month is going to

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01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: be the subject of a take note debate with more

1389
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 3: than four hundred church leaders on the third day of

1390
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: the Sinod at Church Hall in Westminster. This means that

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: the Synod will discuss the content and recommendations of the

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01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: report and they may inform its work in the future. However,

1393
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,919
Speaker 3: the proposals are not going to be formally rejected or approved,

1394
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 3: so it's it's just a debate. The lesbian and gay

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: Christian movement has warned the proposals would formalize don't ask,

1396
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: don't tell them clergy in same sex relationships, but the

1397
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 3: church rejects this claim and a dignified, peaceful protest is

1398
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: being held on the steps of the building by Changing

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:46,480
Speaker 3: Attitude with the support of Peter Tatchel, Yeah Tastel Foundation

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01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 3: and the out and Proud African LGBTI Thachial said that

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01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: he was appalled by the church's treatment of LGBT people.

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 3: The bishop reports the report the fiz headro sexual superiority

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01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 3: and opposed to same sex bladsons and marriages. He said,

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01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: the church blesses dogs and cats, but it refuses the

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 3: blessed loving Ain't that.

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: Some shit fucked up the animals? Is more portant than y'all.

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 3: Listen, we come here today to bless mittens.

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01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: Yes, mitons, Mintons is more blessed than y'all. Ain't got

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01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: something else?

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: Lord, please allowed this very very friend of the family.

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 6: We can't even take tithes and offering from it, but

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01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 6: it's more blest than you.

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01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 3: Please bless this, this fairy animal, this feed line, Mintons,

1414
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: go a fourth and prosper. Now, if you don't get

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01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 3: your gay ass out of my church, get out of here, Gym.

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 4: And Tom, what y'all doing in here? Try and get married? No,

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01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 4: I don't bless you, ant I bless you. I curse you.

1418
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 4: Get out?

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it said, but it refuses the blessed loving

1420
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 3: committed saint says couples, it treats LGBTI clergy and lied

1421
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: to as second class both within the church and the

1422
01:10:58,920 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: wider society.

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they get to be in charge.

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: Come on, and a syanide is a counselor of the church.

1425
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: In case anybody was wondering, I didn't know.

1426
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was assuming that, but I didn't know.

1427
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 3: Remember last week we had that theater that banded Beauty

1428
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: and the Beast because it has a gay character in

1429
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 3: the new version of Beauty and the Beasts. Well, they

1430
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 3: accidentally replaced it with a drag queen documentary.

1431
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, steps, what you get. You made it even gail

1432
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: then it already was.

1433
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 3: Why bigger than people gotta be stupid? Like I mean,

1434
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 3: I'm not saying all bigger than people are stupid. I'm

1435
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 3: sure there's some very smart ones too, But it just

1436
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: that being diagramed dog look a lot like one circle

1437
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: is all I'm saying.

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: Somebody, do not pay attention. They was like, we protest.

1439
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what, Wait a minute, This isn't worse

1440
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 2: than what were you protesting?

1441
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just read about this after refusing the screen

1442
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: Beauty and the Beast because of his newly revealed gay character,

1443
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: and the Alabama Theater accidentally scheduled a film about drag queens.

1444
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 3: This place, The Hand of Guard Driving mistakenly scheduled Fierce.

1445
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 6: Yea.

1446
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 3: Enough was about, this is what happened when you see

1447
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: when you hate gay people so much you don't even

1448
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 3: know the slang.

1449
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 4: What happened?

1450
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: What's happening here?

1451
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 3: He was like, it's that of Beauty and the Beast.

1452
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: We will be showing the tea is coming up. That

1453
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 3: because we're sicking, y'all and we're gonna be drinking some

1454
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 3: tea is probably an English What is this? Oh no,

1455
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 3: oh Jesus, Okay, you know what, Let's go with something wholesome.

1456
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 4: We gonna watch Milk. Okay, it's a documentary about drinking

1457
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 4: milk from cows because that is what God intended.

1458
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 6: And uh, this is not this is not the right movie.

1459
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1460
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 6: Even better, we're gonna do a movie called It's Everything.

1461
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 6: You know, it's just gonna be brandish.

1462
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, you know what, let's get reggae.

1463
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: What I broke Back Mountain? Okay, this man, this mountain

1464
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: was sorsh They broke their back. We are gonna watch

1465
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 3: Broke Back because I'm refused to give it to Disney's

1466
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 3: gay agenda.

1467
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 4: Let me read the.

1468
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 6: Oh no, oh, this is not what I thought.

1469
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: You know what?

1470
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: Let me I'll tell you what. We can watch the

1471
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: movie A BYuT Philadelphia. I love the Eagles, me to

1472
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 3: love the Eagles, Big Sixers fan. Uh, that's a great city. Okay,

1473
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 3: it's the start of our liberty in America. Okay, they

1474
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 3: got the liberty Baills. Oh no, this is not about

1475
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: Tom Hankseson. Oh oh okay.

1476
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 4: Well you know what.

1477
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 3: How about this? We'll watch Stone Wall you build up.

1478
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: It's about stones and walls.

1479
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 4: And gay people hate those things. Oh Jesus, Oh, you're

1480
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 4: not gonna believe this. You're not gonna Oh yeah.

1481
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 3: The tagline for this movie is when life drags you down,

1482
01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 3: drag it up, think about racing.

1483
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: Ha ha, that's what happened, not your funny When? When?

1484
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 4: When?

1485
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: Not? When?

1486
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 6: When bigger than people don't know slang or they separated

1487
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 6: from culture.

1488
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: This is what you get.

1489
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 6: Uh.

1490
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 4: Now it has been pulled since.

1491
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: But man, don't say dragon I would have loved that

1492
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 3: they accidentally showed this ship. They would have been wondering

1493
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 3: why sold many people were showing up in dragon Ship. Oh,

1494
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 3: They'm like, yo, we got a lot of pink Cadillacs

1495
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: and ship in the You're gonna be packed today.

1496
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,919
Speaker 6: With all these pink wigs coming from I don't understand.

1497
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 6: They said something about the barbies out here.

1498
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:38,879
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

1499
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 4: Half just stupid and bigger it just fucking stupid.

1500
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 6: Anyway, all right, let's get into that have messed around

1501
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 6: and people have been out their pregaming playing st velsa

1502
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 6: that have been confused.

1503
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for the record, for anybody else that's about

1504
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: to write end uh, I'm deadly serious. I'm not reading

1505
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 3: anybody like if you're trains and you want to ain't

1506
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: even cool if you want to write in like, but

1507
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm not listening no more people telling us what to

1508
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 3: think about what trans people said.

1509
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 4: Sorry, but I'm not.

1510
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 3: Really sorry, because it's really ridiculous that people even felt

1511
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: the need to do that. Michelle Obama wrote y'a Shahiti

1512
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,480
Speaker 3: College letter of recommendation.

1513
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 4: Y'all is blackish. We saw her when we were in Miami.

1514
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: Gorgeous.

1515
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1516
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 6: So I'm telling you one thing, Michelle Obama, write write

1517
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 6: you a letter.

1518
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 2: I know that thing gonna be air.

1519
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no way, she that's like a golden ticket. That's

1520
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 3: a golden ticket you.

1521
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: Can go with the rest of your life.

1522
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 3: I found this out today and it was sad uh,

1523
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 3: and I hope everybody's sitting down and prepared, uh.

1524
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 4: For some bad news. What's up, all right, Karen? Are

1525
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 4: you ready as rid as I'm gonna get?

1526
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: It's uh with sad news that it's my duty to

1527
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 3: inform everybody. Many y'all didn't know, and I don't want

1528
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 3: you to be surprised like I did. But uh oh,

1529
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 3: the Taco Bell Naked Chicken Chiloop is no longer being sold.

1530
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: Oh they took it away.

1531
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 3: A time.

1532
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: It was a as good as weird as that may sound.

1533
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 3: First we lost William William Hill arrested and then turned

1534
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 3: around and we lost the Naked Chicken Chiloop for y'all, I.

1535
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: Guess getting naggad wouldn't enough to keep it around.

1536
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: It's a limited time offer and just poured off of

1537
01:16:59,120 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 3: the menus.

1538
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 4: Good rest in peace, Naked Chicken Chalopa.

1539
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 3: Thank you for everything he did for my family and

1540
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 3: for my stomach and my taste buns.

1541
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 4: I don't know where it's going, joy.

1542
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 7: All, I know.

1543
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 4: It's well we be.

1544
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: And what.

1545
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 6: E be.

1546
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 2: Jes home is we.

1547
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 4: Gets so hod.

1548
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 6: Jes saying.

1549
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 4: To yes, and I can't play the whole song. Y'all

1550
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 4: get the gist. I know, guys, it hurt me too.

1551
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 2: How did you find out you wouldn't try to order it?

1552
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 3: I tried to order it, man, I said, y'all, it's

1553
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 3: nothing worse than going Taco Bell. We they ain't got

1554
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 3: what you want? All right, there's nothing worse. Everything else

1555
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 3: on that medo is useless. And I was at that

1556
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 3: Taco Bell. You gotta wait behind all them people because

1557
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 3: you can't get out of line. That's how they trick you,

1558
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: because they know they like if people can't find what

1559
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 3: they want, their leave, so they like put them in

1560
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 3: this line or they can't get out.

1561
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: Oh I hate that. That would have wan to trap you.

1562
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 3: I hate you off And they was taking their time,

1563
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: and I felt so embarrassed.

1564
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 4: I was like, y'all got the nigga chicken to loot,

1565
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 4: but they're like no.

1566
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 3: I was like, oh. They was like, well, can I

1567
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 3: help you? I was like, oh, well, I felt embarrassed.

1568
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll take a chicken soft taco because

1569
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 3: that's uh, you know, one of the lighter things on

1570
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 3: the menu.

1571
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 4: And shit, and I.

1572
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 3: Just I wanted to order something so I wouldn't feel

1573
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 3: silly at the waiting for five fucking cars to go

1574
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: because because it took twenty minutes for them to get

1575
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 3: to me anyway, I.

1576
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 4: Know you wouldn't have been like nothing, had no choice,

1577
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: That's my point. I was like, if I gotta wait.

1578
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 3: In this bitch twenty minutes anyway, then I guess I'm

1579
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: gonna get a chicken salt taco. And guess what Camp

1580
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: gave me? The wrong order didn't have chicken soft taco.

1581
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 6: Been better off if just waiting for the five cars

1582
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 6: of rolling off.

1583
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 4: Oh you know, I almost forgot to bring this up too.

1584
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1585
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 4: Some crazy white man knocked the mirror off my car today, y'all.

1586
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: I attacking w talking to you.

1587
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 4: I was going to see Camp. What was weird because.

1588
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: I had this unnatural calmness about me in this situation

1589
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 3: where I think most people would have been very fucking upset,

1590
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 3: but I was coming to meet you, and for some

1591
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: just for a random fucking reason, I decided to take

1592
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 3: the highway instead of the fucking normal way I take.

1593
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 3: I just made the right out of the apartment complex,

1594
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: not thinking, and I was like, oh, fuck it, I

1595
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 3: just take the highway. I'll still get there. At the time,

1596
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 3: it's no big deal. But I saw I was coming down.

1597
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: I was about to make a left and I was

1598
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: in the turning lane, and in front of me, I

1599
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 3: see his big ass dump truck and there's a car

1600
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 3: behind him, like blowing his horn or something. And the

1601
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 3: guy in the car starts to open his door, and

1602
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: then the dump truck dude opens his door and hops out,

1603
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 3: and he's like trying to grab something from behind the seat,

1604
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 3: and I'm like, is this Niga getting a gut?

1605
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 4: And I started, What's funny is I reached for my phone.

1606
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 3: Because I my reflex was like I need to record

1607
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 3: this in case something happens to somebody, because you never know,

1608
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 3: you know, which obviously should have been thinking about my

1609
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 3: safety first.

1610
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 4: I mean, he didn't pull out a gun or anything.

1611
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what I would have whatever, but I

1612
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 3: was kind of stuck in traffic anyway. Was know where

1613
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: I could have gone, really, but anyway, so he the

1614
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 3: white dude gets out and he has a stick and

1615
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 3: he pulls out the stick and he started and I

1616
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 3: still have the stick by the way.

1617
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 4: He starts walking.

1618
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 3: Towards this brown dude who gets out of his car,

1619
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 3: and he was like.

1620
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 4: To the dude, he was just like hey, I mean

1621
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 4: I couldn't.

1622
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 3: Hear him, but he was like approaching him, swinging his

1623
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: stick right and he was probably about a good twenty

1624
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 3: feet away from the guy when he takes the stick

1625
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 3: and just fucking throws it at him, like, I mean,

1626
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, like it made no sense to throw

1627
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 3: the stick. I mean, he had like zero chance of

1628
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,799
Speaker 3: hitting the gun, but he misses him. The stick hits

1629
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 3: the asphalt like three or four times, flips right into

1630
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 3: my car mirror. Not and it's my side, it's my

1631
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 3: passenger side, like the rearview mirror, the mirror you look

1632
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: to check the side and shit, the passenger side mirror.

1633
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 3: The one that says, I this may be because in the pre.

1634
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 4: Right hits he hits my car.

1635
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 3: The fucking mirror flies off, just like I guess it's

1636
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 3: designed that way where you can pop it off, which

1637
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: I learned that today. It flies off into the middle

1638
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 3: of the fucking street. The stick is in the middle

1639
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 3: of the street, and then the guy moving around, y'all,

1640
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 3: but it was stuck because of the stop, like so

1641
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: then the guy see, I'm like, hey, what the fuck?

1642
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 4: And I dropped my phone. I don't even where my phone.

1643
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: Was at, which I meant to record this ship and

1644
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,440
Speaker 3: take a picture of his plates.

1645
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: But I was like.

1646
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: Right and and and then when he sees me, he

1647
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 3: then goes back into his truck. Now I don't know

1648
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: if he was looking like this nigga big, I don't

1649
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 3: want to fight this nigga, Like I was just trying

1650
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: to hit that.

1651
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 4: Small brown dude. I don't I don't know what went

1652
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 4: through his fucking mind.

1653
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: But he gets back up in his truck, and you know,

1654
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 3: and there was this old black man with a with

1655
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 3: a cane that was crossing the street in front of us.

1656
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 4: I stopped earlier let him cross, and he.

1657
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 3: Stopped at the median and was like, damn, you hit

1658
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 3: your cars, like I know.

1659
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 2: And then like.

1660
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 3: And I think I think everybody thought I was gonna

1661
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 3: be mad, but I don't know, man, I had a

1662
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: calm around me, you always, which you know, it's almost

1663
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 3: it's a little bit scary because I was so calm

1664
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 3: that I was like, uh, I hope nobody tries to

1665
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 3: do anything to me or whatever, because I mean, I

1666
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 3: have a clear mind, like if someone tries to touch

1667
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 3: me or something, I will beat the fuck out of

1668
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 3: you in the middle of the street, no questions asked.

1669
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 4: Like I was definitely thinking very clear at it.

1670
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 3: It wasn't a rage or I think sometimes people outrage

1671
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 3: issues and they get out of control. I'm not that

1672
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 3: kind of person, and I was trying to calm everyone down.

1673
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 3: But I so like the dude who had to stick

1674
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 3: throw to him. He comes over to my car and

1675
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 3: he's all, hey, you okay, man, did you see that.

1676
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 3: This motherfucker's crazy. I was like, yep, I saw it.

1677
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 3: That is I don't know what happens, Like he almost

1678
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 3: drove me off the road, threw the stick in me

1679
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 3: and the ship, and I was like yeah, He's like,

1680
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm calling the police right now. I'm calling the police.

1681
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 3: And he had like pulled off the road and was

1682
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: calling the police and getting the tag number because the

1683
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 3: guy's tag wasn't on the back of the dump truck

1684
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 3: was on the side, so he was.

1685
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 4: Taking out a tag number.

1686
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 3: And then I I was looking for my fucking mirror

1687
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: to see if I could put it back on my car,

1688
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 3: and then rolled over and crushed the old black man

1689
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 3: stopped what he was doing, came back. He's like, and

1690
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: I kept my car was running the ship. So I'm like,

1691
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 3: you know, I'm trusting you, old black man. Don't hop

1692
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: in my fucking car, ride off and be mad. But

1693
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: he was like, he was like, man, you ok man.

1694
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm fine, dog, I just got I'm

1695
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 3: just trying to get my mirror.

1696
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 4: He was like, get that stick too, man, you ain't

1697
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 4: need that. The police might need that. I was like yeah,

1698
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 4: He's like, you need to call the police. I was like, yeah,

1699
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 4: I hear you.

1700
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: But I was really looking to see how much damage

1701
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: was done to the car to see if I needed

1702
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: to file insurance support or something. And so I looked

1703
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 3: at the mirror and what happened is the drop the

1704
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 3: passenger side mirror. There's not a lot of physical damage,

1705
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: like it's not scratched anything, but it's definitely like you

1706
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 3: could see where the stick hit it. And then uh,

1707
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 3: I was in the middle of traffic when I had

1708
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 3: to go get the stick and ship and he was like,

1709
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: you want me to get it, and I'm like, nigga,

1710
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 3: you have a fucking cane. You can better know, like

1711
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 3: you Yeah, I said, I got it, man, just you know.

1712
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1713
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 4: He was like, cause you need a witness. You talked

1714
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 4: to the police.

1715
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: I said, no, sir, it's fine, don't worry about it.

1716
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 3: He was like, oh, I got to go catch the bus.

1717
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 3: I said, please catch, do not miss the bus for me,

1718
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 3: and the other dude came and uh. And it's like

1719
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 3: right right when I was picking up the stick and

1720
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 3: putting it in my car and putting the mirror on,

1721
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 3: I just got back in the car and the police

1722
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 3: rolled up. And that's just because the police always be

1723
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 3: over in that area, and the officer like they they

1724
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 3: went and talked to the officer. I wasn't even gonna

1725
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: get out of my car. And I definitely didn't want

1726
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: to talk to police, to be honest. And I don't,

1727
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if that's the most rational

1728
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 3: thing because I had done nothing wrong, but I just didn't. Yeah,

1729
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 3: it just I didn't. I would rather not have the

1730
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: police involved. And I mean, now, if it's something I

1731
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 3: got to testify something, I'll do that because I mean

1732
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 3: it's this white dude like he was throwing that stick

1733
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 3: like it's Trump's American, now boy, you know, so I'll

1734
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 3: definitely testify against that motherfucker and he and especially since

1735
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 3: he didn't have a goddamn or that like, he didn't

1736
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: have a fucking respect to come over it because he

1737
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 3: didn't mean to hit my car that stick, but he

1738
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: damn sure didn't take any responsibility, didn't come over and

1739
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 3: offer to pay for it. He didn't apologize. He just

1740
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 3: left his stick in the middle road, and he left

1741
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 3: me with a broke mirror on my fucking car and

1742
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 3: he drove off. So if that officer caught up with him,

1743
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 3: they got my phone number, so they called me. Best

1744
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 3: believe I will be fouling the report. I have no

1745
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: problem with that. But you know, right right he was

1746
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 3: that was it was driving a dump truck. It wasn't

1747
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 3: like his personal vehicle. So whatever it is, if they

1748
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 3: track him down and he loses job or something, I'm fine.

1749
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 3: I'll be definitely returning any voicemails I get, uh because

1750
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 3: because fuck that dude. But yeah, I'm okay. I figured

1751
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 3: out how to get my mirror back on. It took

1752
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 3: a second, but it just popped right back on, and

1753
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm good. I gotta go to the next segment, y'all

1754
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 3: give me a second but yeah.

1755
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 4: I was like, let me just go, uh meet care.

1756
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: For lunch because this is fucking ridiculous. All right, live, yes,

1757
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: let me invite y'all over and I'm going live. There

1758
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,719
Speaker 3: we go, and I will invite you on the screen,

1759
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: Care and just keep on second that I don't know

1760
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 3: who that person is. No, you're not invited on Sorry

1761
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: about that, all right, just invite you on the screen.

1762
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was, uh, I think I my adrenaline.

1763
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: My adrenaline wasn't pumping or anything. I just wasn't mad.

1764
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 3: I just was more like annoyed and just thinking like

1765
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: stupid motherfuckers. Just and it also like it was wild

1766
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 3: the way I watched it happen. It felt like I

1767
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 3: was watching a movie or like I knew what was

1768
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: gonna happen before it happened, because like literally like I

1769
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: was thinking to myself, like, don't let this motherfucker have

1770
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 3: a gun.

1771
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 4: And then he pulled out the stick. I said, do

1772
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 4: not throw that fucking stick.

1773
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 3: And he started throw the stick, and I was like,

1774
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 3: don't let the stick hit my fucking car.

1775
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 4: As soon as it hit.

1776
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 3: My fucking cars, like oh man, god damn it, Like

1777
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 3: I knew this shit was gonna happen. It's all I

1778
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: get from even fucking looking to see if I can

1779
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: help somebody.

1780
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 4: It's my fault.

1781
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 3: Should have just been a bad person and drove off,

1782
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: get out the way, stick at a person?

1783
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: What were you gonna do? And this one?

1784
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you from my perspective, because you

1785
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 6: was like, well, I'm leaving at two o five.

1786
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool. I clocked that up to

1787
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: a five. I'm on my way. You on your way, okay, cool?

1788
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: I said, I gotta get some gas. Okay cool. So

1789
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 2: I basically left the job, got some gas.

1790
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 6: And got there and I was waiting and waiting, waiting,

1791
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 6: and I was thinking.

1792
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: Well did he leave later? You know?

1793
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 6: You know, I was just thinking I didn't know what

1794
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 6: was tying you up. You know, I was like, am

1795
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 6: I gonna have to go and eat without him? I

1796
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 6: was like, you know, I didn't.

1797
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: Know what was happening.

1798
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 6: Then when you did call, it made me panted because okay,

1799
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 6: you're calling me.

1800
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 2: I'm not trying funny.

1801
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 6: So I was like, well, you're not texting your collars,

1802
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 6: So something happened, and let me tell you right now.

1803
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 6: In my mind, when I I heard this other person's

1804
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 6: voice who I was unfamiliar with speaking in the background. A.

1805
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you did you get in the wreck?

1806
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 3: You know?

1807
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 6: And B I was like, okay, this person is close.

1808
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you from my prospect. I was like, okay,

1809
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 6: this person is close to my husband. Is the getting

1810
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 6: ready to be altercation? You know what's getting ready to happen?

1811
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 6: You know?

1812
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 2: And am I gonna have to leave here and go

1813
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 2: to wherever you were?

1814
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 6: Because I was getting ready to call my job be like,

1815
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 6: y'all know what I won't be in for the rest

1816
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 6: of the day.

1817
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all got planned on, but cansel

1818
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: like all your plans with me today?

1819
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 6: Do what you gotta do. Because I was like I

1820
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 6: didn't really know what was happening in it made my

1821
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 6: heart panic. I was like, okay, am I gonna listen

1822
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 6: be listening on the phone and hear my husband get

1823
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 6: an altercation? Am I gonna listen to on the phone

1824
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 6: and you know here my husband get shot? Like I'm

1825
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 6: just telling you what's happening. In my mind, I'm glad

1826
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 6: it wasn't that big of an ordeal. But once you

1827
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 6: start explaining and I realized you was okay. I was fine,

1828
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 6: but initially my heart started skipping.

1829
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 3: Well that's another reason I try to be calm, is

1830
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 3: because I don't want to cause other people to panic.

1831
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, it.

1832
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 3: Was weird because even after all that, then as soon

1833
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 3: as the police pulled up, I was just like, nope,

1834
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm ready to leave. And the police turned on their

1835
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 3: lights and went driving after the way the truck went.

1836
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 3: But I don't know if they found that person or not.

1837
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 3: So anyway, that happened.

1838
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 4: Crazy white people. What about the kids in wiscond.

1839
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 2: What about them?

1840
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 3: Man?

1841
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 2: Like I said, and I don't.

1842
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's irrational illogical thinking, but that's

1843
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 6: just kind of where my mind went.

1844
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 3: No, you're not being Irrationalological seafood company is convicted of

1845
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,959
Speaker 3: Adam accrouelty for properly killing lobsters.

1846
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,520
Speaker 2: Oh how do you improperly kill a lobster?

1847
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no true humane way to kill a lobster? Right,

1848
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 3: I mean, don't they all the motherfuckers are loves and shit.

1849
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: I've never seen it, but that's what I've heard.

1850
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 3: Well, even result they did is that that is not

1851
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 3: necessarily I mean, that's like saying, if yeah, there's there

1852
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 3: are in humane ways to kill something, they either.

1853
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 6: OK, so you're making it suffer more than a half Yeah,

1854
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,799
Speaker 6: carrying humane by with the lobster.

1855
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine, because like one of the ways

1856
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 3: is boiling them alive.

1857
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 4: So how is that? How's that not? This is bad?

1858
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know anyway. Australian based Nicholas Seafoods

1859
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 3: was caught killing losses in an illegal manner part of

1860
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 3: the process. According to Washington Post, the company was found

1861
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 3: guilty of violating local animal cruelty laws in New South

1862
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 3: Wales area and punished a fifteen hundred dollars fine. They

1863
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 3: were using a bandsaw to cut off the tails of

1864
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 3: the lobsters while they were still alive. The company was

1865
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 3: the first to be find under the loss under the

1866
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: region's lobster cruelty laws.

1867
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 4: Which means it was it happened so much they had

1868
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 4: to pass a law.

1869
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 3: It's possible that this incident is one of the first

1870
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: occurrences of a business being charged with the lost related

1871
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 3: cruelty crime in the world. This may be because loss

1872
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 3: that protect losses don't really exist globally. The United States

1873
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 3: for example, doesn't protect fist crustaceans, including lobsters, under its

1874
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 3: Animal Cruelty loss. And if you're wonder how loster is

1875
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 3: humanly killed, some suggestions include electrically stunning or chilling the

1876
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 3: lobster before quickly ending his life with a single strike

1877
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 3: through the center of the lobster's head and chest area.

1878
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:13,759
Speaker 4: With a knife.

1879
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 6: Wow, I rather just bullet alive. Just just just just

1880
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 6: just just just give it a hot sun of dep.

1881
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 2: All this other bullshit.

1882
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 4: Pretty sure. That's also not that humane.

1883
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 2: Put like this. None of u is actually humane. They're delicious.

1884
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 2: None of us humane.

1885
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 6: But it's just for the fact that you're thinking, I'm

1886
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 6: just gonna saw your tail off.

1887
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 4: Nah doubt, okay Uh.

1888
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 3: Dobe b is a rapper and he has an album

1889
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 3: coming out. The problem is Doebe died like in two

1890
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 3: thousand and maybe twelve or something, what I don't twenty thirteen.

1891
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 3: He died just after Christmas. He's tis former protege. He

1892
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 3: was gunning down tragically. But his estate is now ready

1893
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 3: for a posthumous album to unreleased songs. But there's just

1894
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 3: one problem. The album cover.

1895
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 4: Guys. The album cover is kind of creepy.

1896
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,919
Speaker 3: I'm assuming Karen hasn't seen this, and probably so he did.

1897
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 2: And somebody's taking his stuff and putting the album out.

1898
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, which isn't really a problem. The problem is the

1899
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 3: actual cover of the album. Is it showing up in

1900
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 3: the chat yet?

1901
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 2: Not yet? Let me make sure that, Oh, what's happening here.

1902
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: What happened to is a looking like a pirate.

1903
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 3: A lot of people wear our patches, Karen, I mean

1904
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 3: slick rick Ward eye patch.

1905
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 4: Patch. Some people wear eye patches.

1906
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 6: I know this, and there's nothing wrong with the eye

1907
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 6: with him having an eye patch. The problem is is

1908
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 6: that I didn't know you could call the coordinate your eyepatches.

1909
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're gonna die, you might as well

1910
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:53,839
Speaker 4: be fresh.

1911
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 2: To death, should your mind as well?

1912
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 6: Be?

1913
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 9: Well?

1914
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 3: The album is called No Life After Death. Yes, I'm serious, yep, yep,

1915
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 3: uh so.

1916
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1917
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 3: Apparently his mother is down with the cover, but the

1918
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 3: mother of his children is not with it.

1919
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 4: She does not like it.

1920
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 3: If you want to do anything for his kids, leave

1921
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 3: them with the last image they had of their father,

1922
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 3: not him laying in the casket. There's no amount of

1923
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 3: money that would make me compromise his dignity and respect

1924
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 3: the love of money is.

1925
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 4: The root of all evil.

1926
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 3: She said, Damn no, So I guess, uh, people must

1927
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 3: not care. People gonna buy this even is it worth

1928
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 3: all this?

1929
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1930
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 3: Well yeah, so I guess people are people cool with it? Yep,

1931
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 3: no life after death.

1932
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 6: Uh.

1933
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 3: Media outlets are accused of racism because there was this

1934
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 3: cute video and I do think it was cute, and

1935
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 3: I saw it late and I did not see it

1936
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: with the rest of Twitter.

1937
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 4: But there was this man being interviewed.

1938
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 3: On the BBC where his kids somehow got into the

1939
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 3: room during this important video live interview he was doing

1940
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 3: over Skype, and then a woman comes in and she's

1941
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 3: like on her on the ground, like trying obviously trying

1942
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 3: to avoid the camera, but it's obvious that you could

1943
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 3: see her on the camera, and she like snatches them

1944
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 3: little babies up and leaves the room that close the door.

1945
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 3: And I thought that was so cute and adorable and

1946
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 3: really thought that was all there was to it, and

1947
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 3: I just didn't happen to see the hubbub on Twitter

1948
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 3: about it. Well, apparently because his wife was a brown

1949
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 3: woman and Asian lady, apparently people thought she was his

1950
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 3: nanny and so people assumed the said of his wife

1951
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 3: that his nanny had come in there and snaw the

1952
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 3: kids up. I will try to play the video for

1953
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 3: everybody so y'all can see it, like I said to

1954
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 3: me and I and this is one of the benefits

1955
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 3: of not saying it with other people. I just wasn't

1956
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 3: tainted like nobody had. Like even the video I saw

1957
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 3: didn't say nanny, mother anything. It's just like, look at

1958
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 3: this video, the most important interview of his life, and

1959
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 3: this kid's coming the room and I just started laughing.

1960
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, that's hilarious.

1961
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 2: Kids.

1962
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, kids are doing I know.

1963
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 3: And the way the kids like stomped in there, it

1964
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 3: was just so like one of the kids just came

1965
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 3: walking in.

1966
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 4: Oh, it was so good, all right?

1967
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 6: And would it be in such a wack camera? Ain't

1968
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 6: especially when you're by yourself, you don't know?

1969
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you'll see he knows after a while when

1970
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 3: the kids.

1971
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 10: I would argue that this is a triumph with democracy.

1972
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 10: Scandals happen all the time. The question is how democracies

1973
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 10: just trying to scandals.

1974
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 4: And what will it mean for the wider region. I

1975
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 4: think one of your children is just walked in.

1976
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 7: I mean shifting shifting shifting signs in the region. Do

1977
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 7: you think relations with the Norse may change?

1978
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they do. He's pushing the

1979
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 2: baby back right No, not right now, not right now, baby,

1980
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 2: not right.

1981
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 9: Now of them, even though one on the walker.

1982
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 2: Got it of the region. Sorry, that's normally had no South.

1983
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 10: Severely limited in the last six months a year because

1984
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 10: of North Krists behavior almost recently the use of VX gas.

1985
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 4: I think it's able, right, I mean, you got one and.

1986
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 2: Those mos right behind it. Hey, I'm mobile to right.

1987
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 4: Well, apparently.

1988
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 3: This has been the fucking uh Rose Shark tests of

1989
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:56,759
Speaker 3: the world because so many people assume she was a nanny.

1990
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 3: But yet, of all the people, it's not because of

1991
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 3: her race, y'all. They just they said she was acting

1992
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 3: like a nanny. That's how nanny's act. Apparently nobody's racist,

1993
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 3: No one plicit bias because it was black people making

1994
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 3: jokes too. And I can't like and like I said,

1995
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 3: I can't even say I wouldn't have made the joke.

1996
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 3: I literally came in late, so I just don't know

1997
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 3: if I would have seen if the first thing I

1998
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 3: would have saw with someone saying she was the nanny.

1999
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 3: I probably would have been like, oh, she the nanny. Okay,

2000
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 3: I guess I got some jokes, but I just didn't

2001
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 3: see it. And I didn't see anyone calling her wife either,

2002
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 3: And I it says something about it said something about

2003
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 3: my life. Okay, let me say it said something about

2004
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 3: my life. I assumed she was the wife when watching

2005
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 3: the video because I did not think a nanny could

2006
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 3: snatch nobody's kids like that and not get in trouble.

2007
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 2: Come on, put your hands on kids like.

2008
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 3: That, like she snatched them kids about it? Like, come on,

2009
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 3: like by the arm. I was like, oh, that that

2010
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 3: must be the mom pan.

2011
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 4: Again that this is her husband's big interview whatever or.

2012
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 6: Relative like even if she was your wife, all like, okay,

2013
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 6: she must be related to him in some way, shape,

2014
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 6: form or fashion.

2015
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 3: To be honest, I didn't even think relative. I thought mom,

2016
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 3: because I was like, don't nobody put their hands on

2017
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 3: your kid like that except you. You can't just put

2018
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 3: your hands you can yank up they arm like that

2019
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 3: unless it's your baby that but see that says something

2020
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 3: about me. It's like I said, it's a test, almost

2021
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 3: the ink block test where people are like it's a butterfly. No,

2022
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 3: it's a tree, it's a leaf. It's like that for

2023
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: me because so many people had different reason of this.

2024
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 3: But the thing for me was, I don't understand how

2025
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 3: people could say they assumed it was his nanny and

2026
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 3: yet her race played zero part in it. It seems

2027
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 3: so weird to mean that people can't even admit that,

2028
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 3: But I have no choice with the believer man. A

2029
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 3: lot of people said that she was just acting like

2030
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 3: a nanny. I'm like, what does that mean? Like she

2031
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 3: was scared for her job or something. I said, Okay, cool,

2032
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 3: now we know it's not the nanny, it's his mom.

2033
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 3: It's the mom. Why would you while do you still

2034
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 3: like are you not questioning why she was so scared then?

2035
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 4: Because to me, I didn't read it. It didn't read

2036
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 4: it scary read.

2037
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: It's like the kids got away from me.

2038
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, like panic, Like these kids are sucking the dad's interview, trying.

2039
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 2: To make money and here comes to kids.

2040
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially that that first kid is.

2041
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 2: The best.

2042
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 4: What we're doing on skype daddy, right.

2043
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 6: And it took the other man to go, hey, you

2044
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 6: know your kids in there, we're.

2045
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 4: Getting an interview.

2046
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: It's also kind of funny too, that that's how society

2047
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 3: is now, Like, uh, it's like a big shame of children.

2048
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 3: Everybody got kids, you know what I mean. But it's

2049
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 3: so like, how damn child into this this space. I

2050
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 3: wonder how this video goes over if he like picks

2051
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 3: up the child and puts her on his lap and

2052
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 3: he's like, sorry, just let's just finish this interview, you know.

2053
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 3: Instead it's just like get these children off the screen.

2054
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you know what's happening.

2055
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 6: And a lot of you got parents that would have

2056
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 6: been with both ways depend but a lot of people

2057
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 6: would have panicked like, oh my god, you're gonna fucking.

2058
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:08,839
Speaker 2: An interview get away.

2059
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2060
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I'm not trying to position myself

2061
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 3: as better than other people either.

2062
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm like I said, maybe he's worse.

2063
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm Maybe that says something about the way I

2064
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 3: was raised. And I think a mom can snatch your

2065
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 3: kids up and that's okay. And I like maybe other people,

2066
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe they felt that it wasn't snatching,

2067
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 3: it wasn't aggressive.

2068
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to touch my children like that.

2069
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like it felt kind of aggressive to me,

2070
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 3: but in a way where it's like it's your family,

2071
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 3: so you can do that.

2072
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2073
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 6: No, the one in walker was Hilaryers, but yeah, hounter

2074
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:45,520
Speaker 6: your kids and walkers can move fast and depend.

2075
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 2: On what kind of walker it is.

2076
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 6: Some of them actually had the band because children were

2077
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,839
Speaker 6: actually rolling downstairs and shit, because it makes a child mobile,

2078
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 6: you know, and they just going on about their way.

2079
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

2080
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, I don't know, dog. I think it's

2081
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,719
Speaker 3: a very simple excentation. People assuming she was a nanny

2082
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 3: because she.

2083
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 4: Is Asian and he's white.

2084
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 3: And I don't think if a white woman came in

2085
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 3: there and snatched them kids up the exact same way,

2086
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 3: or just two people of the same race or whatever,

2087
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 3: I think most people would be like, that's that white,

2088
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 3: that's the wife, you know.

2089
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 4: And I'm not even saying I'm not even saying.

2090
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 3: That the assumption's correctness is okay either, because let's say

2091
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 3: you were right, still kind of you know, we're still assuming,

2092
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 3: we're still guessing. It's still based off of stereotypes and

2093
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 3: gender roles that we have in our head and shit,

2094
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 3: like it's still all of those things. Let's say that

2095
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 3: she would have been his nanny and not his wife,

2096
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 3: and everybody. They would have wrote an article about how

2097
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 3: many people assumed that she was the wife when she

2098
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 3: was just a nanny or some shit like you know.

2099
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 3: It's it's definitely yeah, it's definitely based off the fact

2100
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 3: that we had a very little information that people started

2101
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 3: going in making jokes on it's cute vi our video.

2102
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 4: I just thought it was cute.

2103
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 3: But I'm being fully transparent by saying I thought it

2104
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 3: was his wife, but only because she snatched them kids

2105
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 3: up and I thought that was hilarious.

2106
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 2: And and the thing about it, I didn't see the

2107
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: whole clip.

2108
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 6: All I seen was a gift of him talking and

2109
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 6: the first kid coming in halfway and then it stopped

2110
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 6: like it didn't show the whole transaction.

2111
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

2112
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I thought it was cool. Nigga Minaj goes

2113
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 3: off on party next Door on Twitter says, don't say

2114
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 3: you wrote my ship.

2115
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Hey we heard this part of next Door in the

2116
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 2: White People News.

2117
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 4: I want to say, yeah, I want to.

2118
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 2: Say he was dating a girl or something.

2119
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah he was.

2120
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, it wasn't White People News. He was in

2121
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 3: a love triangle between him and Kyrie Irving. We may

2122
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 3: have covered on bosdep or something.

2123
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 6: Oh okay, my bad, because I remember that particular name

2124
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 6: because it's so unique.

2125
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 2: It stands out.

2126
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 3: Him and Kyrie Irving were dating the same girl.

2127
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 4: I think that who was it?

2128
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 2: Was it?

2129
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 4: Or was it? Okay? Yeah, I just know it was

2130
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 4: one of them girls, one of them little girls. Yeah,

2131
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 4: I know, one of the little fast sass girls go

2132
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 4: full a black onyt on y'all.

2133
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 6: And yeah, yeah, And I remember this store because wouldn't

2134
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 6: it something like.

2135
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 2: They were dating her and Kyrie were dating.

2136
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 4: Oh god, I don't remember any of this. I don't

2137
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 4: remember the details.

2138
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it wasn't that consequential at the time.

2139
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 4: I just remember that was he was involved in that.

2140
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 2: Because I remember he didn't hmber that.

2141
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a love triangle or something.

2142
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 3: Uh. At any rate, Nikki Minaj apparently went and got

2143
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 3: mad at him on Twitter because people were saying that

2144
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 3: her new song, Regretting My Tears sounds a lot like

2145
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 3: Party next Door's signature sound, and he was retweeting, Uh,

2146
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 3: the people that were saying that ship Party next Door,

2147
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 3: I hope they paying you good money for them songs. Bro,

2148
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 3: you keep saving people. Also at Party next Door is

2149
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 3: the most underrated dude on the planet. Wasn't the best

2150
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 3: right now? Party next Door, your ghostwriting does not go

2151
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 3: and notice my brother real fast still hear you? So

2152
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 3: everybody gonna ride at Party next door cotail the number

2153
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 3: one away Party next Door reference track and with a

2154
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 3: picture of Nicki Minaj's new video. Nikki went on Twitter

2155
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 3: and said, not sure why he was liking tweets. Maybe

2156
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 3: it was just funny to him, maybe he was hacked

2157
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 3: l ol.

2158
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 4: Either way, this too much?

2159
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

2160
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 4: She used the hashtag funk out of here.

2161
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 3: Party next Door has nothing to do with hashtag regretting

2162
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 3: your tears. Nigga ain't never heard that song or day

2163
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 3: in his life, bless y'all heart. He must have thought

2164
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:40,799
Speaker 3: that catch and said work lol in andet getting spooky

2165
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 3: man like the nigga never heard the song a day

2166
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 3: in his life, oh man. So apparently Nikki was upset,

2167
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 3: and then Nicki went on I mean Party next Door

2168
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 3: went on Twitter and said, I can't believe call this

2169
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 3: is grown man?

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01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 4: This what is his real name? I have to go

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01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 4: to this man's real I cannot be a part of

2172
01:46:59,040 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 4: this anymore.

2173
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 6: Hold on, that's why I remember his name. Don't ask

2174
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 6: me it's real? But did you say his real name?

2175
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 6: But like, who you know the boy?

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01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 3: I have to know his real name? I mean, does

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01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 3: it at least start with a with a with a

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01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 3: P or something.

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01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 4: I just can't. I mean, it's name like Patrice.

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01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 3: Next next dover is as like, what is his name name?

2181
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 4: Anyway?

2182
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 3: Twitter said, I'm a fan of Nicki Minaj. We have

2183
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 3: a song together. I hope she's as cool as I

2184
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 3: always imagine. And that was I guess he was trying

2185
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 3: to be above it. But he since the leaded to tweet,

2186
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 3: so maybe he took it back. Mhm uh so yeah,

2187
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 3: I guess we'll see party next. His name is Jaron

2188
01:47:53,120 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 3: Anthony Braithwaite. I don't I guess jer Anthony bast the

2189
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 3: way it was taken on Twitter, I don't know what

2190
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 3: happened anyway. Uh, NICKI was mad at someone other than remy.

2191
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 4: Still interesting.

2192
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,440
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see what else you can talk about.

2193
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 4: I guess we can do some fucking with black people.

2194
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 3: Let me see if I what I even had it

2195
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 3: as when we see if anything happened, I feel like

2196
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 3: talking about before I make that promise to the audience.

2197
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I do feel like talking about some of this. Yep,

2198
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 3: let's get it over with. Let's get it on all right,

2199
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 3: let me find the music for the segment. We just

2200
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 3: fucking with those black people. Were just fucking with those blacks.

2201
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 3: We're just fucking with fucking with black people. That's right, guys,

2202
01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 3: tied to play the game and we all hate to play.

2203
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 3: It's fucking with black people the game. We go all

2204
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 3: around and gold we find it make us feel fuck with,

2205
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 3: then we will signed points course from Steel tw one

2206
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 3: hundred Interivals twenty five five much we feel fucked with

2207
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 3: the black people today's contestants for everybody. Cosmopolitan published a

2208
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 3: racist study that says the ten most beautiful women in

2209
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 3: the world and guess what.

2210
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:25,440
Speaker 4: Karen, They was all white, of course.

2211
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 3: Signed and they said it was according to science, So scientifically,

2212
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 3: the most beautiful women in the world are all white women.

2213
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 3: Amber heard number one, Kim Kardashian number two.

2214
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 2: The people I know Kim Kardashian is.

2215
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 4: Ever heard is the woman that Johnny Depp beat.

2216
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, that's sad that That's the way I got

2217
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 3: you to know it.

2218
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 2: Right, because I was like who this random white woman is.

2219
01:49:52,520 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 3: Kate Moss uh, Emily Righttajowski, Kendall Jenner, Helen Mayor, and

2220
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 3: Helen Mirren beat out all the black women in the world.

2221
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 2: Wow, I've heard of that. Now she's a actress, right yeah.

2222
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 3: Scarlar Johansson, Selina go man, she Latino, Marilyn Monroe, and

2223
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lawrence.

2224
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 2: Hein't Marilyn Monroe.

2225
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 4: Dad, Uh, she is dead?

2226
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought, what manch you man tell me a

2227
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 2: dead white woman get out of here?

2228
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 4: Mm hmm yep, ho list.

2229
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 6: I mean just because she your favorite president, don't make

2230
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 6: her a beautyful was white woman in.

2231
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,520
Speaker 4: The world still by science.

2232
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 7: Care white Tava, Jack and Julie too white.

2233
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 3: And sh let you gamman to load though the more

2234
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 3: I don't tell men it's the faika. You don't want

2235
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 3: to know what's going on because white girl, I wanta

2236
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 3: go away.

2237
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 4: Yep.

2238
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 3: Apparently white girls are the only beautiful people. Uh, scientifically,

2239
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 3: Karen ten most beautiful women in the world white, the

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01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:28,639
Speaker 3: Arian race them and Jeff Sessions that passes this right

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01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 3: oop oop.

2242
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna spill the tea.

2243
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 2: Because she's not white.

2244
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 4: Yep. Well, anyway Z one hundred.

2245
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 6: Oh, that's that's definitely a hundred, because yeah, there's a

2246
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 6: lot of problems with with that because honey, like I said,

2247
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 6: maybe it's just me, honey, it is some brown regular

2248
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 6: not what I mean regular. I mean they're not famous

2249
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,719
Speaker 6: brown regular women. They can put all them to shame.

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01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:04,839
Speaker 6: Women just walking around You're like, oh, you're gorgeous.

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01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 4: What the fuck is the world like if you?

2252
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,639
Speaker 3: I don't even want to know. I can't imagine people

2253
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 3: that don't find black women beautiful.

2254
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 4: That's that's ridiculous to me.

2255
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 6: Like.

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01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 4: Right, Gause, it's the white supremacy at work.

2257
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 3: Like whenever you hear somebody say something like I'm just

2258
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 3: not in the black women, I don't find them a tracker,

2259
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, something is fucking wrong with you.

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01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 6: And that's it because the most fascinating part is that

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01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 6: when you do this list, you have all these white

2262
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 6: women on there, but yet a lot of times white

2263
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 6: women as whole do everything they can to darken their skin,

2264
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 6: white in their lips, make the hips bigger, make their eyes.

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01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:46,560
Speaker 2: Wider like like like they'll do.

2266
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:50,839
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you can go straight down to like a Sally's

2267
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 3: beauty supply and be like, God, damn, you know what

2268
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 3: I mean?

2269
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 4: This is crazy? Oh well, you know what more for

2270
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 4: me to look at. That's fine. I don't need your validation.

2271
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,600
Speaker 3: Uh. Speaking of which, speaking of beauty supply stores, apparently

2272
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 3: we got something going down in our own town.

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01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 4: Care with with some with some. Uh, we're being fucked

2274
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 4: with this and this is my first time here in store.

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01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,520
Speaker 11: Owner is under fire.

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01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 4: And I'm putting it shows them kicking and actually American woman, okay,

2277
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 4: it came on, okay, all right, sorry.

2278
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 11: Here is Asian and this happened at the Missha Beauty Thursday.

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01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 11: Well today, community leaders and.

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01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 4: Jesus, what's with this video?

2281
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 2: Oh?

2282
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 4: Accidentally pos it?

2283
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let me see if I can make

2284
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 3: it bigger for one and then I'll hit play again.

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01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 11: All right now, Customers gathered outside the store calling for

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01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 11: a boycott. W b t v's Christian Flores joins us

2287
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 11: now live outside where all this happened. So, Christian, that

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 11: video pretty hard to watch. I know you talked to

2289
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 11: thus store owner.

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01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 2: What did he have to tell you?

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01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 12: Well, Sharon, the owner did confirm that that was indeed

2292
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 12: him in the video, and he also says that he's

2293
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 12: sorry to the woman he put in a choke hold,

2294
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,640
Speaker 12: but he also says that he thought to keep her

2295
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 12: in his store until Yeah.

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01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 4: OK, I don't know if that part of the played

2297
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 4: when I first played it.

2298
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it might be move but it's not moving

2299
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 2: on my screen.

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01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 4: But it's not moving.

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01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:22,679
Speaker 3: It off.

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01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 11: After a cell phone video shows them kicking and choking

2303
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 11: almost in African Americans here.

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01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 2: And this happened Thursday.

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01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 11: Well, today, community leaders and customers gathered outside the store

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01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 11: calling for a boycott. W BTV is Christian right now?

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01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 11: Live outside where all this happened.

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01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 2: So Christian?

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01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 11: But video pretty hard to watch. I know you talked

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01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 11: to the store owner.

2311
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 2: What did he have to tell you?

2312
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 12: Well, Sharon, the owner did confirm that that was indeed

2313
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 12: him in the video, and he also says that he's

2314
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 12: sorry to the woman he it in a choke hold,

2315
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 12: but he also says that he did that to keep

2316
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 12: her in his store until police arrived. He told us

2317
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 12: that she stole from him, But protesters say, whatever the case,

2318
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 12: he should not have gone to this extreme. What started

2319
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 12: as an owner's concern over a possible shoplifter quickly escalated

2320
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 12: into a physical altercation. Moments later, you see the owner

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01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 12: of Misha Beauty, Sung Ho Limb kick the woman, then

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01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 12: take her to the ground.

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01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 4: And put her in a choke hold.

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01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 12: Discussing this video has been circulating on social media, and

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01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 12: on Sunday, community leaders and customers held a protest calling

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01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 12: for boycott of the store.

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01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 6: He took it upon himself to treat her in the

2328
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 6: ways that no woman should be treated, in fact, no

2329
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 6: person should be treated.

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01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 2: I will never ever come in this still again.

2331
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 12: Wim talked with protests, apologizing to them that's a whole,

2332
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 12: But protesters say this apology may not be enough. Charlotte

2333
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 12: Mecklenburg's NAACP chapter, as well as national civil rights activists

2334
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 12: John C. Barne that showed up to the protest, saying

2335
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 12: the possible racial implications in this confrontation cannot be ignored.

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01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 2: It reminds me of any historical attack on black.

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01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 4: People, whatever the case may be. We do know that,

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01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 4: you know he can't be keeping someone in a choke hold.

2339
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 4: Ollim says this had nothing to do with race.

2340
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 12: He tells WBTV the camera phone footage doesn't show her

2341
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 12: stealing from his store. He filed a police report, telling

2342
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 12: the officers she stole eyelashes. However, no charges have been filed.

2343
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 12: One man who works in a store near Misha Beauty says,

2344
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 12: this is not how you handle a shoplifter.

2345
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 3: When I think they may be stealing.

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01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 4: I mean, as far as stores, most of them have

2347
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 4: cameras in Themlym says he should not have taken things

2348
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 4: this far.

2349
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 3: Probably wasn't.

2350
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 2: No matter.

2351
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 4: What's the reason that I'm feel their sorry to her.

2352
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 2: But for protesters, this woman could have gotten killed.

2353
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 12: They don't think he understands how serious his actions were

2354
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 12: when he.

2355
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 2: Was choking her. He was almost choking her to death.

2356
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 12: And no one has been charged in this case. Where

2357
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 12: told the woman actually left the store, but we poor

2358
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 12: police arrived now all them tells us he plans on

2359
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 12: apologizing till the woman face to face sometime tomorrow, reporting

2360
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 12: life and what Charlotte christens.

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01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 4: Shit look.

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01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 3: Obviously, if any crime occurred, if there were shoplifted and something,

2363
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 3: obviously that's you know, shouldn't stop.

2364
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 4: With all blah blah blah.

2365
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 3: You can't put your fucking hands on somebody, dog, that's

2366
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 3: what police are for. The fucking cameras are for. You

2367
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 3: can't just be putting your fucking hands off over adalyzes.

2368
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know enough about beating ship. Our

2369
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 3: allage is worth a million dollars now?

2370
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 2: Is that?

2371
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 3: Is it worth a lawsuit you might get for putting

2372
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 3: your hands on some money? Is it worth going to

2373
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 3: court over? Is it worth the court costs?

2374
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 4: The fuck?

2375
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 6: Man?

2376
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 4: You lost your goddamn mind.

2377
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, I believe if it wasn't a black woman

2378
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 3: you want to put your hands on them, That's my belief.

2379
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 3: That would be some white lady. You would have been like,

2380
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this air or a call the cops

2381
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 3: and do this shit the right way. But yeah, watching

2382
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 3: that video for me, just I don't put your hands

2383
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 3: on nobody dog period. And like I don't even blame

2384
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 3: her for leaving for the police came. Honestly, even if

2385
01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 3: I would have done nothing wrong, I probably would have

2386
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 3: left for the police. Came just for the just for

2387
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 3: the mirror. They don't even have our own video stealing

2388
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 3: nothing the fuck.

2389
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, because from my understanding, I think that from my understanding,

2390
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 6: he accused her because my cowork was Simmy. He accused

2391
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 6: her of stealing and actually looking to her purse. He

2392
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 6: actually opened up her purse and had him dig through

2393
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 6: her purse and he didn't find anything.

2394
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 2: He turned around other customers within the store.

2395
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 6: He locked the doors so that nobody actually could leave

2396
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 6: the store to lock her in there.

2397
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 2: Then this altercation proceeded.

2398
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 4: What oh yeah, that's why they boycotting.

2399
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 6: And because you had you because the person actually really

2400
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 6: a recording it, so nobody could get.

2401
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 2: Out the store, get of the store at the time.

2402
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 12: And so.

2403
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 2: I got something to say about this. I'm gonna tell

2404
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 2: you right now, shit like this.

2405
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 6: Really really really really really really really really pissed me off.

2406
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 6: Because you have a lot of people of Asian and

2407
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 6: Korean descent that come into the black communities, and a

2408
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 6: lot of them don't give a fuck about the black community.

2409
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 6: You sell us products, you sell us palm, you sell

2410
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 6: us hair, you sell us wigs, you sell all this

2411
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 6: stuff food right in the black community, but you don't care.

2412
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 6: A lot of You make billions of dollars, make money,

2413
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 6: Bring your family and friends over, get them into it, profiting.

2414
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 2: Off of the Black community. A lot of these Asian stores,

2415
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 2: a lot of them. You don't see these in white neighborhoods.

2416
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 6: You see them in the ghetto and in brown parts

2417
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 6: of whatever wherever you are okay.

2418
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 3: And still able to maintain the model minority reputation that

2419
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 3: we're never afforded, like, still able to be like those

2420
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 3: hard working immigrants they come to America, they just study,

2421
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 3: they just do the right thing. They star businesses, they

2422
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 3: help their family out, and they get all this credit

2423
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 3: on the backs of our money and.

2424
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 2: Then do shit like this, right, And then what really

2425
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 2: makes me mad is that you you profit off of us.

2426
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 6: You come here, you make money, You get loans for

2427
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 6: these businesses that we could never qualify for.

2428
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 2: They wouldn't even consider getting us.

2429
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:37,160
Speaker 6: Then what the biggest thing, if you know anything about

2430
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 6: how the structure is set up, they have such a

2431
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 6: fucking monopoly on this industry.

2432
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 2: They have a monopoly.

2433
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 6: They go and they buy warehouses, they go and they

2434
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 6: do wholesale, and a lot of times black people.

2435
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 2: That try an attempt to break into these markets can't.

2436
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 6: They don't allow them to the seminars, they don't allow

2437
02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 6: them to the shows. And then a lot of times,

2438
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 6: if you do get it, you're paying sometimes twice a

2439
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 6: triple the price, and then niggas complain why your price

2440
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 6: is so high?

2441
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 2: It's because I.

2442
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 6: Was charged more for wholesale because these Asian people have

2443
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 6: dominated it so much.

2444
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:18,880
Speaker 2: They family, their friends, they strung it. So I can't

2445
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 2: even crack into this industry if I want to.

2446
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 6: That's why when a lot of black people want to

2447
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:28,400
Speaker 6: sell their products, they do other avenues, they go online.

2448
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 6: They have to do the alternative routes because you can't

2449
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 6: attempt to do the traditional route because you're black balled

2450
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 6: out of the market.

2451
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 3: You know.

2452
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 6: You know how a lot of times you have these

2453
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:43,880
Speaker 6: stores and you run out of something, they'll go around

2454
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 6: and say, well, hey, do you have this?

2455
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 2: Do you have that?

2456
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:49,440
Speaker 6: And they'll swap products and all that stuff. They will

2457
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:52,720
Speaker 6: not do this with you unless you are a part

2458
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 6: of the of their community. So my thing is that

2459
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 6: you profit of off of black people.

2460
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 2: But yet, I'm gonna tell you right now, for me personally.

2461
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 6: I've shopped at a lot of these places, and it's

2462
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 6: very insulting and it's very demeaning sometimes to go into

2463
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:11,440
Speaker 6: some of these stores because you go you walk into

2464
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 6: some of these stores and you look up at every corner.

2465
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 6: It's a big ass mirror in every fucking corner, down

2466
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:21,160
Speaker 6: every goddamn ass. I'm telling you this because I want

2467
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 6: to make a point here, and because our men don't

2468
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 6: go to these stores, so they don't know what the

2469
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:28,360
Speaker 6: fuck women are complaining about. You go into these stores.

2470
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 6: They got mirrors on every ais A lot of times.

2471
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 6: These mirrors have cameras, a lot of times they have

2472
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 6: cameras in the ceiling. They have cameras. You can watch

2473
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:37,000
Speaker 6: and guess what. Some of this shit don't even work.

2474
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 6: A lot of times they do it to intimidate people,

2475
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:43,080
Speaker 6: just to prevent them from stealing. And the thing and

2476
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 6: and and the thing is a lot of times even

2477
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 6: to the way what the registers are a lot of

2478
02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 6: times they don't have to do this. A lot of

2479
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:52,600
Speaker 6: times they registers and stuff is set higher, and it's

2480
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:55,400
Speaker 6: purposely set higher so that they can wash the stores.

2481
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:57,960
Speaker 6: I've been in stores and watch this motherfucker go from

2482
02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 6: side to side as I go up and down the

2483
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 6: aisle watching me.

2484
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 2: I've been in there walking around, and you have a

2485
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:04,600
Speaker 2: motherfucker just watching you.

2486
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 6: They won't say shit. They're fumbling with shit. Bet you

2487
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 6: work here, I'm not asking you for help. Why are

2488
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 6: you following me around the goddamn store? And if I

2489
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 6: was to turn around and say something, I would be

2490
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 6: the motherfucking problem because.

2491
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:18,320
Speaker 2: You're accusing me of stealing. Yes, people still, Yes, people

2492
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 2: take from you. Yes it calls your costs to go up,

2493
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:23,760
Speaker 2: Yes it does. Well, My thing is this, you pay

2494
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 2: insurance and stuff to cover this cost.

2495
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 6: There are better ways to handle it, but the promise

2496
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 6: that you're in the communities where you think everybody in

2497
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 6: this fucking community has got damn stelling for you, because

2498
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 6: you think when that's saying, you thank the fucking thiefs.

2499
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 6: And it's a fucking problem. So I've gotten to the point, well,

2500
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:38,839
Speaker 6: I don't go anymore.

2501
02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:39,440
Speaker 2: You know what I do.

2502
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 6: I go to motherfucking salads because you know what, you

2503
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 6: don't walk around and watch them white women bitch yep, not.

2504
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:46,080
Speaker 4: To mention.

2505
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 3: Way I'll be at when you know, motherfuckers get shot

2506
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 3: up the street by the cops.

2507
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers want people want to march where you at?

2508
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 3: When when something happens in our community and you make

2509
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:04,920
Speaker 3: the money off our community, but you ain't supporting nobody

2510
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 3: in our community.

2511
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 4: You know, when you give back to the causes, to

2512
02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 4: our schools, to our children's programs.

2513
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 3: When y'all gonna sponsor one of our football teams for

2514
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 3: our youth or uh, you know, provide some provide some

2515
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 3: opportunities for people when y'all gonna employ people that you

2516
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 3: know live in that same community.

2517
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 4: Because you damn show will accuse us of stealing.

2518
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,320
Speaker 3: You damn show, we'll watch us like you damn show,

2519
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 3: treat us like inmates.

2520
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 4: At the first side of anything, you know, And like

2521
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 4: I said.

2522
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 3: I don't blame old girl from leaving before the police

2523
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 3: showed up, even if you don't do anything like you

2524
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 3: just never know what they're gonna assume after you've been

2525
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 3: accused of something, even if you didn't do it.

2526
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 6: Right, because a lot of times, for white people that

2527
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 6: are listening, he called the police on her.

2528
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 2: If she didn't leave, it's a possibility she could have

2529
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:56,839
Speaker 2: got fucking arrested.

2530
02:04:56,920 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 6: And she's the victim here because a lot of times, Wendy,

2531
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 6: these incidents happened.

2532
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 2: It's automatically assume.

2533
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 6: That, regardless you brown person, you did it because you

2534
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 6: because it's a privilege here, yes, with all minorities, but

2535
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 6: it's a priviage here, and they're gonna look at him

2536
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 6: as to quote unquote model citizen him in his life

2537
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:16,960
Speaker 6: and just assume that they're telling the truth, and that's

2538
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 6: where the problem comes in.

2539
02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 2: And also, yes, fucking boycott him.

2540
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 6: Stand out front of his door every goddamn day, because

2541
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 6: I wanted to be sure it wasn't somewhere I shopped

2542
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 6: or or had shopped in the past. Because I was

2543
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 6: gonna be like, fuck you. I'm telling everybody, don't come

2544
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:31,680
Speaker 6: here again.

2545
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 2: If you have to go out of your way, go

2546
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:35,360
Speaker 2: out of your way. Make him.

2547
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:39,000
Speaker 6: But I just the thing is, he don't think what

2548
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 6: he did was bad, because his thing was I'll go bitch,

2549
02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 6: don't talk to me.

2550
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 2: You got a lawsuit coming to you.

2551
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 6: On me.

2552
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing.

2553
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 3: I do think he's apologizing to the crowd and to

2554
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 3: that woman. I just don't think he's doing it because

2555
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 3: he got caught, because because his video.

2556
02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 4: I don't.

2557
02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 3: I just don't believe that, after goodness of his he

2558
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 3: realized he was wrong. The way I'm looking at him,

2559
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,280
Speaker 3: choked this woman over five dollars a niney nine cents

2560
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 3: worth of all lashes.

2561
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 4: Uh No, Doug, you don't do that unless you already

2562
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 4: think that we're subhuman. You just don't do that. That's

2563
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:12,600
Speaker 4: not a natural reaction.

2564
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 3: I worked at like media play if a mother fucking

2565
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 3: stole a CD and they was walking out that door,

2566
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 3: then they just got a CD. Bro Okay, my name

2567
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 3: ain't mister media play. And I damn I ain't worry

2568
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:26,960
Speaker 3: about five dollars of ninety nine cents worth of all lashes.

2569
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 3: Dog like you you must be out your motherfucking mind.

2570
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 3: Only somebody that thinks everyone that walks in his store

2571
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 3: is a goddamn thief and everybody is worth fighting over

2572
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 3: and shit, and you're gonna prove you the toughest owner

2573
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:42,400
Speaker 3: on the block. We do something like that, and it's

2574
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's very fucked up, man. So yeah,

2575
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 3: it's and especially knowing how you know, our community basically

2576
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:55,360
Speaker 3: is it's supposed to be a partnership, but so often

2577
02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 3: we just treated like fucking you know, like like I said,

2578
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:03,760
Speaker 3: like like prisons or thieves or or inmates and shit,

2579
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 3: like we just treated like criminals from the second you

2580
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:09,839
Speaker 3: walk in certain places. Like it's one of the reasons

2581
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 3: that you know, when you walk in like a certain

2582
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 3: convenience store or some shit, you don't feel it feels

2583
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:18,000
Speaker 3: like the difference between some white man with a fucking

2584
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 3: DC flagshirt watching me or some Asian dude follow me

2585
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 3: around the store. It makes no difference to me. Both

2586
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:26,360
Speaker 3: of them make me feel unwelcome, you know. So yeah,

2587
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 3: it's it's definitely, you know, a common issue, so right, and.

2588
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 6: It wouldn't surprise me if they go back. This is

2589
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 6: probably not the first time he put his hands on somebody.

2590
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 2: I guarantee you.

2591
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 6: Incidents has happened before where somebody may have accused him

2592
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:45,640
Speaker 6: and may haven't even reported it, but they didn't want

2593
02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 6: to charge or either something happened and because you're in

2594
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 6: the black community and it's assumed that you're always guilty.

2595
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,040
Speaker 2: They didn't report it because they didn't want to make

2596
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 2: a scene or they didn't want the pelice to turn

2597
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 2: them out and arrest them.

2598
02:07:57,320 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 6: So it's just one of those things where guarantee you

2599
02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 6: he had a history of this, because you don't openly

2600
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 6: put your hands on somebody like that and wrestle them

2601
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 6: to the ground and almost choked them to death without

2602
02:08:08,440 --> 02:08:10,560
Speaker 6: you doing this to the past, without something, without you

2603
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 6: feeling comfortable enough in your store to feel like this

2604
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:17,960
Speaker 6: behavior was okay. What if you would have killed her

2605
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:23,040
Speaker 6: in your store over fucking change. Believe you mean that

2606
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 6: that yaky ain't worth it.

2607
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 3: It was eyelashes, right, it was alashes, not even not

2608
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:32,440
Speaker 3: that any amount would have been okay, but it wasn't

2609
02:08:32,440 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 3: even weave, man, it was eyelashes. You choked a girl

2610
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 3: out over eyelashes. You thought that was okay to do,

2611
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 3: and tomorrow I was just your I was just crazy

2612
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 3: for a little bit. Well, motherfucker, you shouldn't have a store.

2613
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:48,000
Speaker 3: People that can go crazy and put their hands on

2614
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,920
Speaker 3: people for a little bit shouldn't have a store.

2615
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 4: I'm glad they came out.

2616
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:54,760
Speaker 3: Shout out to the NAACP on the local chapter, because

2617
02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:58,120
Speaker 3: people stay giving the NAACP local chapter shit when they

2618
02:08:58,240 --> 02:08:58,680
Speaker 3: fuck up.

2619
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 4: Was shout out to them for organizing that.

2620
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:03,120
Speaker 3: Man, I wouldn't even have known about this if they

2621
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 3: had to organize and then the news wentn't covered it,

2622
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 3: because you can see it wasn't the other way around

2623
02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 3: if they I would not have known about this. I

2624
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 3: live in this area, did not know about this until today. Like,

2625
02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:19,000
Speaker 3: but yeah, fuck that and fuck them right Hindred.

2626
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And my my thing is that I hope she

2627
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 2: sues him because I bet you one thing, you'll think.

2628
02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:26,040
Speaker 4: Twice for you put your lawyers the lawyers calling her.

2629
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 6: Right because she literally got to open it, and I

2630
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 6: don't even give a fuck if she stole it.

2631
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 2: You don't do that.

2632
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 4: Don't put your hands on people.

2633
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 3: You do not do this.

2634
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 4: I mean, call the police if you got to. Don't

2635
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 4: put your hands on nobody.

2636
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,760
Speaker 2: Right, Just we'll just sit here and all you out

2637
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 2: and my thing. You had no business going through my ship.

2638
02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:48,440
Speaker 2: Call the police. We'll both stand here and let them

2639
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 2: go through my ship. You have no right to touch

2640
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 2: me or go through my ships.

2641
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 4: All right, we gotta move on something. Pay some guests

2642
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Speaker 4: the rights.

2643
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 3: Okay, now that is time for some guests the rays.

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Speaker 3: time for some guests the race. That's right, it's guess

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Speaker 3: the race time.

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Speaker 4: That's right. It's time for guests the race.

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Speaker 3: The number one game CHU going across all the podcasts

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Speaker 3: we asked how contestants today the chat room and Karen

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Speaker 3: to guests the rays and of course Karen in the

2652
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2653
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Speaker 4: Two things. First of all, this is why people had

2654
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 4: a curl kid.

2655
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:42,520
Speaker 3: Ah, That's why they come to this, why they had

2656
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 3: that stuff shipped to their house every month.

2657
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:45,760
Speaker 4: She don't got to walk in that store and get

2658
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:46,200
Speaker 4: choked up.

2659
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:48,720
Speaker 6: Come on, that's my lives a lot of times. Whatever

2660
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 6: your favorite is, it sells online.

2661
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 2: So I like it like a so and my thing

2662
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 2: is that for a lot of them.

2663
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:57,480
Speaker 6: Also, not trying to be funny, I'm and not to

2664
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:02,400
Speaker 6: get off topic, more to know more and more women

2665
02:11:02,680 --> 02:11:05,840
Speaker 6: are starting to go natural. Is like a crave for

2666
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:10,800
Speaker 6: people transitioning to natural in various shapes or forms, even

2667
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 6: if they do it temporarily and go back. So a

2668
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 6: lot of the relaxes that they were selling aren't selling

2669
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 6: no more. A lot of the products theirself they're doing,

2670
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 6: like like, the sales for them have plummeted. And so

2671
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:23,920
Speaker 6: it's one of those things where because of online, you

2672
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:27,720
Speaker 6: have competition for online. So yes, it's quick and convenient

2673
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 6: for me to go to you because I can get

2674
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 6: on those spots. But you know what, I can wait

2675
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:32,800
Speaker 6: a few days to get.

2676
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 2: It online online and wait if.

2677
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:36,320
Speaker 6: I got to deal with this because this is the

2678
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 6: worth thing, because he did this to save his business.

2679
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 6: Because people protesting means people are gonna walk up there

2680
02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:45,000
Speaker 6: who might not even have known this story of my

2681
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:46,920
Speaker 6: not even being a loop and he's gonna They're gonna

2682
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 6: run business away.

2683
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:48,840
Speaker 4: I hope business.

2684
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 2: Yep, me too, business go out of business? Fuck you?

2685
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2686
02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 3: Uh and so yeah this uh this, this episode is

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02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 3: brought to you by Luke Craig of course.

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Speaker 4: It's called unboxing car. You said it right, Okay, let

2708
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 4: me get some scissors, I.

2709
02:13:02,320 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 2: Want to say right behind you.

2710
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 4: See it comes with the scissors, so that I mean.

2711
02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 3: It comes with a nice tape so it doesn't open

2712
02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:13,000
Speaker 3: up the male man, don't go through you cool ship.

2713
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Speaker 4: Uh. Let's see what's in this monst box man. This

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Speaker 3: Uh, a collectible figure and it does transform into all

2718
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 3: three phases.

2719
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:40,880
Speaker 4: So you got the the plane version. It's the VF

2720
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Speaker 4: one J special. Ops. You got the plane version. You

2721
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 4: got the part where it's like a plane with legs,

2722
02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 4: and you got the mech version. Yeah yep, Rubbotech.

2723
02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 3: We also got tetris uh ceramics, salt and pepper sat Oh.

2724
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:01,560
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.

2725
02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:04,520
Speaker 3: So now we will be looking like with the life

2726
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:08,280
Speaker 3: of the party when it's time to fucking season our food. Okay,

2727
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about oh, yeah, you guys

2728
02:14:12,160 --> 02:14:13,120
Speaker 3: out there got well you got that.

2729
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:17,280
Speaker 4: Boring ass white and black saltn pepper? Is that what

2730
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 4: you're all into? Ours? Now look like Tetris pieces? Yeah,

2731
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:25,880
Speaker 4: that's cool. Yeah. Now I don't know how you tell

2732
02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 4: which one is something which one pepper, but we'll figure

2733
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:28,960
Speaker 4: it out.

2734
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:34,720
Speaker 3: I like that. Let's see what else we got in here?

2735
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:42,040
Speaker 3: U is anyone into Game of Thrones? Yes, they have

2736
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:44,280
Speaker 3: a Game of Throns construction set.

2737
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:48,280
Speaker 4: For the Throne room. Oh so you put together, you

2738
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:52,080
Speaker 4: put it together. It has Jeoffrey in, it has the

2739
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 4: ron throne.

2740
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:56,000
Speaker 2: Might put that together display.

2741
02:14:56,400 --> 02:15:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we got Yeah, this is dope. Wow, this

2742
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:01,840
Speaker 4: is kind of big too.

2743
02:15:02,080 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes, three fourteen pieces.

2744
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 4: Jesus, but yeah you got that.

2745
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:09,200
Speaker 3: Man, give that to I was gonna say, you give

2746
02:15:09,200 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 3: it to a kid, but kids can't watch this, and

2747
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm not giving that no kid.

2748
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:14,720
Speaker 4: The only kid that would take that is Aria Stark.

2749
02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:15,840
Speaker 2: They an.

2750
02:15:17,480 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 3: Got some marble Agents of shield socks, I believe, And

2751
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 3: it's funny because it looks like half is Ages of

2752
02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:31,280
Speaker 3: shield and half is a hydra. Yes, so you can

2753
02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:36,680
Speaker 3: be agent May with one Hydra sock and one Ages

2754
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 3: of shield sock.

2755
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:39,760
Speaker 4: I love this I will definitely be playing basketball and knees.

2756
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:41,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's me.

2757
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:42,840
Speaker 3: Ye.

2758
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 4: It just allows you to be effortlessly nerdy.

2759
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 2: Oh.

2760
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:50,400
Speaker 4: The pen for this month is The Power Rangers.

2761
02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:58,960
Speaker 3: Oh and lastly, it's a book, Fantastic Beast Swooping Evil Inside.

2762
02:15:58,640 --> 02:16:03,760
Speaker 4: Look at the magic Zoology in the film and it's uh,

2763
02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 4: you know JK. Rollins, Fantastic Beast.

2764
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:07,200
Speaker 6: Uh.

2765
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:10,280
Speaker 4: And it's a book and it goes in the and

2766
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:14,320
Speaker 4: it's a punch out book too. So we saw that.

2767
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:17,400
Speaker 4: I think did you see that with me? I saw it.

2768
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if Layla saw it. I think Layla man.

2769
02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:24,240
Speaker 3: No, Layla didn't see that with us. All right, So

2770
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:27,000
Speaker 3: that's everything this month for the d X man. So

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Speaker 3: you can get afforded d X man, I say go

2772
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Speaker 3: with that.

2773
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Speaker 6: I'm trying to tell you the extra dollars our worth it.

2774
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Speaker 6: It's bigger and you get more cool stuff.

2775
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Speaker 4: Yep.

2776
02:16:36,320 --> 02:16:43,200
Speaker 3: And then the last thing I'll say is this and

2777
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:45,160
Speaker 3: this that I didn't ask him before this, but I'll

2778
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:46,960
Speaker 3: just try to uh bring it up.

2779
02:16:47,720 --> 02:16:50,959
Speaker 4: Uh safety pinbox man. It's not just for white folks.

2780
02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:55,440
Speaker 4: This month is just a very like just the time.

2781
02:16:55,480 --> 02:16:56,320
Speaker 4: It could not be better.

2782
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:02,280
Speaker 3: I guess uh, it's about trans women, black trans women.

2783
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Speaker 3: Safety pan Box and that's the theme for this month.

2784
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Speaker 3: The theme is Marsha P.

2785
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Speaker 4: Marsh and.

2786
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Speaker 3: They are creating content to help people become better allies,

2787
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Speaker 3: be better educated, to give you task and things of

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Speaker 3: this nature. And you can even donate I think fifty

2789
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Speaker 3: dollars to the Marissa P. Johnson Foundation and you will

2790
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Speaker 3: actually get this month's box. So if you don't want

2791
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Speaker 3: to sign up for like a subscription, but you want

2792
02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:34,280
Speaker 3: to get this month's boxes, maybe you listen to all

2793
02:17:34,280 --> 02:17:36,680
Speaker 3: this shit you think me in harrisond fucking Luoney tunes

2794
02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:38,760
Speaker 3: and we don't know what we're talking about. Or maybe

2795
02:17:38,800 --> 02:17:40,920
Speaker 3: you just feel like I mean the same way that

2796
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:42,720
Speaker 3: I mean I feel all the time, where it's like

2797
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:45,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what this is, I don't know how

2798
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:47,200
Speaker 3: to talk about this thing, but I would like to

2799
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:47,840
Speaker 3: have the words.

2800
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Speaker 4: I would liked to at least know the knowledge. Safetypinbox

2801
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Speaker 4: dot com.

2802
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:55,360
Speaker 3: Man, go sign up, follow them on Twitter, Safety pan

2803
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:59,280
Speaker 3: Box and ask you know Leslie and Marissa, you know

2804
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Speaker 3: if ll y'all most mostly our friends with them and

2805
02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 3: stuff on social media, ask them how you can get

2806
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:08,080
Speaker 3: the box man, Because like I said, if you're listening

2807
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:10,000
Speaker 3: to what we're saying, you feel like we just sound

2808
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:12,039
Speaker 3: like we're so out on left field on this ship.

2809
02:18:13,680 --> 02:18:16,960
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's a resource so you can learn, you know,

2810
02:18:17,320 --> 02:18:19,240
Speaker 3: so I don't think there's anything wrong with UH.

2811
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:22,200
Speaker 2: And you can learn in a private like privacy, Yeah,

2812
02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:22,760
Speaker 2: you can.

2813
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:25,560
Speaker 4: You can learn without getting dragged.

2814
02:18:25,400 --> 02:18:28,680
Speaker 6: Right, you can have the flows and it's all right

2815
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:31,360
Speaker 6: and it's okay, and you know with it. They have

2816
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 6: a private Facebook group where people can come in and

2817
02:18:33,800 --> 02:18:34,680
Speaker 6: ask questions.

2818
02:18:34,879 --> 02:18:38,360
Speaker 2: They actually have a podcast for people to subscribe to

2819
02:18:38,480 --> 02:18:38,800
Speaker 2: the box.

2820
02:18:38,879 --> 02:18:41,400
Speaker 6: The only people that subscribed is able to have so

2821
02:18:41,640 --> 02:18:46,160
Speaker 6: you get access to all this extra content.

2822
02:18:46,720 --> 02:18:49,000
Speaker 2: And so let's say you go with out.

2823
02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:51,480
Speaker 6: On half fifty dollars, go half and half with somebody,

2824
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:54,680
Speaker 6: split the box, share the box. You know, there's various

2825
02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:58,200
Speaker 6: different ways get for people. Everybody put in a little

2826
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:00,200
Speaker 6: bit of money and you can come up with it

2827
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 6: in no time. So you know, go support them down

2828
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,560
Speaker 6: here working hard to actually doing a lot of work.

2829
02:19:06,640 --> 02:19:09,000
Speaker 6: If you tired of explaining shit to people, get a

2830
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:10,920
Speaker 6: box and give it to somebody else and say I'm

2831
02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 6: tired of your dumb ass questions.

2832
02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:15,600
Speaker 3: A couple who faked a brutal murder and sent a

2833
02:19:15,640 --> 02:19:19,080
Speaker 3: gruesome crime scene photo to their family. They did it

2834
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:22,320
Speaker 3: to lure a relative who owed them money. What but

2835
02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:25,840
Speaker 3: now they admitt it was a bad idea Now then

2836
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:29,320
Speaker 3: and Ohio couples say they regret faking a brutal murder

2837
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:32,200
Speaker 3: in a twisted scheme to lure a relative who owed

2838
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:33,640
Speaker 3: them money to their home.

2839
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:35,280
Speaker 2: Who was this a Scooby Doo gang?

2840
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 3: Michael Risner twenty nine, and his fiance Natalie Schlept were

2841
02:19:41,080 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 3: charged with in inducing panic for sending the fake crime scene.

2842
02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 4: Pictures to their family members.

2843
02:19:46,520 --> 02:19:49,480
Speaker 3: Police say that Risner set up the elaborate stunt because

2844
02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:51,160
Speaker 3: he was trying to get his sister to come over

2845
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:54,120
Speaker 3: to his house as she allegedly owed him money. They

2846
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:57,200
Speaker 3: created a scenario in someone's mind that something really bad happened.

2847
02:19:57,240 --> 02:20:00,959
Speaker 3: Police Chief John or Orzec said the lesson for them

2848
02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:02,840
Speaker 3: is that they have to be accountable for their action.

2849
02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:06,040
Speaker 3: Risner had texted his sister a picture that appeared to

2850
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:09,199
Speaker 3: show Schlect lying dead and covered in blood in the bathtub,

2851
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:11,320
Speaker 3: saying he has no memory of what happened, but that

2852
02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 3: they have been arguing, and then he had woken up

2853
02:20:13,840 --> 02:20:14,560
Speaker 3: covered in blood.

2854
02:20:15,959 --> 02:20:18,520
Speaker 4: Please help me. I really didn't mean to. I don't remember.

2855
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:21,200
Speaker 4: I was arguing and woke up to this. He sent

2856
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:21,840
Speaker 4: his sister.

2857
02:20:23,440 --> 02:20:24,000
Speaker 2: At your house.

2858
02:20:24,680 --> 02:20:28,120
Speaker 3: Risen described to Inside Edition how he stayed a disturbingly

2859
02:20:28,200 --> 02:20:29,000
Speaker 3: realistic scene.

2860
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:32,040
Speaker 4: See why would you talk to you?

2861
02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:34,200
Speaker 3: This is a crime, and you go on the Inside

2862
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:36,200
Speaker 3: Edition to be like, listen to how I committed this crime.

2863
02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:38,959
Speaker 3: I kind of wipe ketch up everywhere a little bit,

2864
02:20:39,080 --> 02:20:41,280
Speaker 3: put ketch up in the water, he said, and they

2865
02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:42,600
Speaker 3: got it, and then she got in the water. I

2866
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:45,000
Speaker 3: started putting more ketchup to make it a little more gruesome.

2867
02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:47,880
Speaker 3: His panic sister responded, what the fuck is she dead?

2868
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 3: Micah answered me, Now, I woke up on the bathroom

2869
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:52,400
Speaker 3: floor with blood.

2870
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:53,879
Speaker 4: On me and her like that. I'm trying to clean

2871
02:20:53,959 --> 02:20:54,600
Speaker 4: but I don't.

2872
02:20:54,440 --> 02:20:57,880
Speaker 3: Know if it should if I should, he wrote. He

2873
02:20:58,000 --> 02:20:59,560
Speaker 3: then asked her to come by and pick him up.

2874
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:02,080
Speaker 3: Apparently believing her brother committed murder. She agreed to come

2875
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:05,440
Speaker 3: get them. Now that's that's a ride of that ship

2876
02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:08,160
Speaker 3: because my brother texts me that he just killed more mo.

2877
02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:11,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm calling the cops, right, I'll.

2878
02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 2: Be like here, their address gone up there and see

2879
02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:16,160
Speaker 2: about him. I'm coming too, but but but they'll get

2880
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:16,640
Speaker 2: the flyer.

2881
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm not becoming an alibi or a fucking accomplished. You

2882
02:21:19,879 --> 02:21:22,960
Speaker 3: can't be out here just killing random people and calling

2883
02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:24,640
Speaker 3: me like I'm the clean up man.

2884
02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:29,240
Speaker 2: You'd like it's a joke. Well, yeah, you're You're charged

2885
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:30,360
Speaker 2: for tying up now on one.

2886
02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:33,640
Speaker 3: She also seemingly advised Risener on how to cover it up,

2887
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 3: telling him to delete their text and throw his blood

2888
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:38,480
Speaker 3: stained clothed in a dumpster far away. Shit.

2889
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:41,039
Speaker 4: She been watching too much cereals.

2890
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:42,120
Speaker 2: For ground to investigator.

2891
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:44,880
Speaker 3: His sister didn't informed Risener that police are on the

2892
02:21:44,879 --> 02:21:46,879
Speaker 3: way to investigate after one of their broilers called now

2893
02:21:46,959 --> 02:21:48,560
Speaker 3: on One while the cops coming.

2894
02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:51,080
Speaker 4: Don't call the cops, he wrote. She was finding I

2895
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:51,840
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on.

2896
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:54,039
Speaker 3: Just to be safe, I didn't call them at Mike

2897
02:21:54,120 --> 02:21:56,840
Speaker 3: and oh, that's the type of delete all this from

2898
02:21:56,879 --> 02:21:57,400
Speaker 3: your phone.

2899
02:21:57,959 --> 02:22:00,320
Speaker 4: Police confirmed that several hysterical.

2900
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:03,160
Speaker 3: Orelaves had called to report the murder after receiving a

2901
02:22:03,160 --> 02:22:04,360
Speaker 3: gruesome crime scene photo.

2902
02:22:04,680 --> 02:22:06,720
Speaker 4: It looked very real. It looked like someone had been

2903
02:22:06,800 --> 02:22:09,240
Speaker 4: murdered or could have been self inflicted. You don't know.

2904
02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:10,879
Speaker 3: At the time, but if you look at the photo

2905
02:22:11,080 --> 02:22:14,200
Speaker 3: just getting it, it looks like a real crime scene incident.

2906
02:22:14,280 --> 02:22:16,959
Speaker 3: The couple halfs said spoken of there regreat about the prank.

2907
02:22:17,320 --> 02:22:19,040
Speaker 3: I just thought that it'd be really cool and funny,

2908
02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:21,480
Speaker 3: he sold inside the dish, but police failed to see

2909
02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:25,200
Speaker 3: the funny side. After receiving nine one one calls this abatter,

2910
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:28,080
Speaker 3: saying every single police officer in saying dusk Johie to

2911
02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:33,920
Speaker 3: the home. Every single police officer. They were like, they

2912
02:22:34,240 --> 02:22:39,599
Speaker 3: like they were here for a report of a homicide.

2913
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:41,320
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, no, no, that was me.

2914
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:42,560
Speaker 4: It was in the bathtub.

2915
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:43,040
Speaker 2: It was fake.

2916
02:22:43,080 --> 02:22:44,240
Speaker 4: It was a joke. I'm right here.

2917
02:22:44,959 --> 02:22:48,120
Speaker 3: Both schlet and Risina say they will think twice for

2918
02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:51,840
Speaker 3: performing another prank, definitely like murder scene ones. I'm going

2919
02:22:51,879 --> 02:22:54,520
Speaker 3: to stay away from that for quite a long time. Yeah,

2920
02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:56,800
Speaker 3: I don't think I should use those ideas anymore.

2921
02:22:56,879 --> 02:22:57,520
Speaker 4: Schleid added.

2922
02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:00,640
Speaker 3: When the police are out, they found Slid was alive,

2923
02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:02,520
Speaker 3: and well that's seen in the bath of the stage

2924
02:23:02,560 --> 02:23:04,680
Speaker 3: with ketch up. As a practical joke. We sent a

2925
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 3: lot of people there. The mother had that had called

2926
02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:08,600
Speaker 3: us on na on one was very distrived thinking this

2927
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:11,400
Speaker 3: is real or is that? She told Daily Mail Dot comic.

2928
02:23:11,440 --> 02:23:14,600
Speaker 3: The couple indicated resident's sister had allegedly stolen money from

2929
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:16,360
Speaker 3: them and it was their way of trying to get

2930
02:23:16,360 --> 02:23:17,320
Speaker 3: her to come back to the house.

2931
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:21,320
Speaker 4: He described the ordeal as a very bad joke. I

2932
02:23:21,400 --> 02:23:26,720
Speaker 4: guess the race can m white. Karen's going white.

2933
02:23:26,800 --> 02:23:28,360
Speaker 3: Let's check the chat room and see what you guys

2934
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:33,200
Speaker 3: believe the race will be inside. Addition, white, only the

2935
02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:35,840
Speaker 3: whites would find a full crime scene.

2936
02:23:35,959 --> 02:23:39,040
Speaker 4: Comical White? Did they send everybody.

2937
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:44,160
Speaker 3: Alive after franking the police? White thought murder was a prank?

2938
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:49,040
Speaker 3: White fuckery, rich crack cracker, writtener, Richner Sandusky, week of

2939
02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:55,080
Speaker 3: white CSI, pum music, white, fast police music, fast police response.

2940
02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:55,520
Speaker 4: White.

2941
02:23:56,440 --> 02:23:59,800
Speaker 3: Uh. The correct answer is you guys all guess the

2942
02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:03,680
Speaker 3: thing and you're all right they were white.

2943
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Was the fact that they didn't charge them with a

2944
02:24:16,120 --> 02:24:16,879
Speaker 2: crown for faking.

2945
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:19,800
Speaker 4: They didn't get charged with a crime for reducing the

2946
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:20,560
Speaker 4: panic and.

2947
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,360
Speaker 2: Panic that they are to make them pay back, pay

2948
02:24:23,440 --> 02:24:24,840
Speaker 2: them for the man hours.

2949
02:24:24,920 --> 02:24:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to.

2950
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:28,440
Speaker 3: It's like your sister owe you money now down, You're

2951
02:24:28,440 --> 02:24:30,080
Speaker 3: gonna have to pay a fine, or at least you're

2952
02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:32,000
Speaker 3: gonna end up owing more money.

2953
02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:34,960
Speaker 2: Better not be grad my family. I'm like, motherfucker, you

2954
02:24:34,959 --> 02:24:36,959
Speaker 2: may ever call me again with you didn't get your

2955
02:24:37,000 --> 02:24:37,480
Speaker 2: money back?

2956
02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:41,320
Speaker 4: Here they are, by the way, get it showing up

2957
02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:43,600
Speaker 4: that crime s.

2958
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:45,560
Speaker 6: That much funny and you send it to a group

2959
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:48,720
Speaker 6: of people. Don't you think somebody in this group is

2960
02:24:48,760 --> 02:24:49,800
Speaker 6: gonna be like, oh ship.

2961
02:24:50,680 --> 02:24:54,400
Speaker 3: Yep, they gotta catch up from the crime scene and

2962
02:24:54,520 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 3: the text they had. By the way, the reason I

2963
02:24:57,280 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 3: know they white, look at this knife. The reason I

2964
02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:03,520
Speaker 3: knew they was white is because they told the cops

2965
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:05,039
Speaker 3: and the TV people everything.

2966
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:07,920
Speaker 4: They were so proud of this, this old ordeal.

2967
02:25:08,520 --> 02:25:10,280
Speaker 2: And it's not funny.

2968
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a crime. What a y'all doing? All right?

2969
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:18,880
Speaker 3: As a twenty six year old man lay in the

2970
02:25:18,959 --> 02:25:22,959
Speaker 3: hospital bed dying, his girlfriend, who overpowered him and allegedly

2971
02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:23,680
Speaker 3: poured bleach in.

2972
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:26,000
Speaker 4: His mouth, laughed, prosecutor said in court.

2973
02:25:26,320 --> 02:25:30,720
Speaker 3: Old Yasmin Elder, twenty four, appeared before Judge Donald Peneris,

2974
02:25:31,320 --> 02:25:33,640
Speaker 3: who sat bell at one million dollars during the hearing

2975
02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:39,800
Speaker 3: at Latent Criminal Criminal Court. Elder is charged with first

2976
02:25:39,800 --> 02:25:43,840
Speaker 3: degree murder in the attack which left Darius Ellis dead.

2977
02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:47,800
Speaker 3: The defendant admitted to pouring bleach on the victim, and

2978
02:25:47,879 --> 02:25:50,640
Speaker 3: then laughed at the witness when she was informed that

2979
02:25:50,720 --> 02:25:51,640
Speaker 3: the victim might die.

2980
02:25:52,760 --> 02:25:56,560
Speaker 4: What the couple had been dating about a month? A month?

2981
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:58,840
Speaker 4: We kill the motherfuckers over a month.

2982
02:26:00,680 --> 02:26:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

2983
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm not pouring bleach down your throat in an not

2984
02:26:05,800 --> 02:26:07,680
Speaker 4: ask a month? No can what you say?

2985
02:26:08,480 --> 02:26:11,600
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not made for day nowadays, killing me

2986
02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:12,280
Speaker 2: out the month?

2987
02:26:12,440 --> 02:26:15,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's way too short of a time

2988
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:17,080
Speaker 3: to be killing somebody. And I'm not saying that any

2989
02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:20,160
Speaker 3: right time. But a month is definitely the wrong time.

2990
02:26:20,240 --> 02:26:20,879
Speaker 4: I know that much.

2991
02:26:21,440 --> 02:26:24,160
Speaker 2: Give at least get a catalog of reasons why.

2992
02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:26,840
Speaker 4: I mean, y'all, y'all not even engaged after a month?

2993
02:26:26,959 --> 02:26:30,280
Speaker 4: A month? A month? M m m.

2994
02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:36,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, apparently she laughed when she found out the

2995
02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:38,360
Speaker 3: victim might died. A couple of been day in about

2996
02:26:38,360 --> 02:26:41,120
Speaker 3: a month. Around twelve thirty am Monday, Ellis picked up

2997
02:26:41,160 --> 02:26:44,160
Speaker 3: Elder from work. About an hour later, while sitting in

2998
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:47,040
Speaker 3: the van, they began to argue, and Elder climbed on

2999
02:26:47,120 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 3: top of him cars and said Elder, twenty four, grabbed

3000
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:54,520
Speaker 3: Ellis's dreadlocks and used her knee to hold him down.

3001
02:26:55,440 --> 02:26:57,240
Speaker 3: She grabbed a bottle of bleach and put it on

3002
02:26:57,360 --> 02:26:59,600
Speaker 3: his face. Some of the bleach went down his throat

3003
02:26:59,600 --> 02:27:02,280
Speaker 3: and it'd have left advance. She could hear him yelling

3004
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:02,560
Speaker 3: that he.

3005
02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:03,320
Speaker 4: Could not breathe.

3006
02:27:03,800 --> 02:27:06,720
Speaker 3: Ellis twenty six collapsed and began phoning at the mouth,

3007
02:27:06,800 --> 02:27:09,280
Speaker 3: and one of several witnesses called now one one. He

3008
02:27:09,440 --> 02:27:12,400
Speaker 3: was taken to Straga Hospital or Is later pronounced dead

3009
02:27:12,879 --> 02:27:15,400
Speaker 3: after the ambulance sped away. One of the witnesses walked

3010
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:19,280
Speaker 3: to the Ellis home nearby and told eligence, while another

3011
02:27:19,400 --> 02:27:22,240
Speaker 3: witness saw elder walking near the home in in front

3012
02:27:22,280 --> 02:27:25,600
Speaker 3: of her. Elder appeared to admit it to pour and

3013
02:27:25,640 --> 02:27:27,840
Speaker 3: bleach on Ellis and laugh when witnesses told her he

3014
02:27:27,959 --> 02:27:28,440
Speaker 3: might die.

3015
02:27:29,080 --> 02:27:29,920
Speaker 4: She was pronounced.

3016
02:27:30,040 --> 02:27:33,160
Speaker 3: He was pronouncedad at three twenty six am and autosic

3017
02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:37,280
Speaker 3: determined Ellis died of complications from forceball administration of acoustic substance.

3018
02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:39,080
Speaker 4: His death was ru with a homicide.

3019
02:27:39,680 --> 02:27:42,280
Speaker 3: Ellis also suffered the brazings to his neck, cheeks, and back,

3020
02:27:42,400 --> 02:27:46,840
Speaker 3: consistent with caused by fingernails while being held down. Internal

3021
02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:50,879
Speaker 3: injuries towards esophagust the stomach consistent with chemical burns, bruises.

3022
02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:51,480
Speaker 4: To his head and back.

3023
02:27:52,160 --> 02:27:55,440
Speaker 3: Elda was on court supervision for mistermeter battery when she

3024
02:27:55,520 --> 02:27:57,360
Speaker 3: hit a neighbor in the head with a metal lock.

3025
02:27:57,959 --> 02:28:00,480
Speaker 4: Oh say.

3026
02:28:00,600 --> 02:28:04,280
Speaker 3: Elder's attorney says she is single, has previously worked in

3027
02:28:04,360 --> 02:28:05,199
Speaker 3: sanitation at.

3028
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:08,439
Speaker 4: A bakery, single and ready to mingle. I guess.

3029
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:11,920
Speaker 3: She's charged her first degree murder in the attack against

3030
02:28:11,959 --> 02:28:15,240
Speaker 3: Ellison was order held on a million dollars bell relatives

3031
02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:17,240
Speaker 3: said Ellis was the father of a five year old son.

3032
02:28:17,920 --> 02:28:21,279
Speaker 3: He was a good kid, said Ellis's maternal grandmother. Everybody

3033
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:25,360
Speaker 3: loved him. Shit, that's pure evil right there over a

3034
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:30,440
Speaker 3: fucking argument under the jail. What the fuck anyway? I

3035
02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:34,000
Speaker 3: guess the race can Karen's going with black? All right,

3036
02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:35,680
Speaker 3: let's check the chat room and see what you guys

3037
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:37,840
Speaker 3: believe after a month.

3038
02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:43,000
Speaker 4: I wish a motherfucker would Uh daish you are going

3039
02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:45,760
Speaker 4: to come clean? Black, says Denise.

3040
02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:49,320
Speaker 3: Uh what the fuck is wrong with her? Sadly, I

3041
02:28:49,360 --> 02:28:51,000
Speaker 3: think she's black. I hate to say it, but black.

3042
02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,320
Speaker 3: Let me clear my throat and black.

3043
02:28:55,000 --> 02:28:58,920
Speaker 4: Uh glad this psycho is off the streets. Uh, that's

3044
02:28:58,959 --> 02:28:59,400
Speaker 4: not a race.

3045
02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:04,160
Speaker 3: She was said alcohol. She wasn't alkaline. YadA didn't have

3046
02:29:04,440 --> 02:29:09,360
Speaker 3: time to boider water black black of the black black.

3047
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:14,400
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmm. Well the correct answer is and everybody gets black.

3048
02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:26,040
Speaker 4: She's black. Mm hmmmm.

3049
02:29:27,440 --> 02:29:30,520
Speaker 3: Uh. Let me see if I can put the picture

3050
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:34,520
Speaker 3: in the chat in a second. But yeah, she didn't

3051
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:36,040
Speaker 3: like she gives no fucks either.

3052
02:29:37,680 --> 02:29:42,680
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmm. Is showing up damn it? Of course it will.

3053
02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:47,600
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, Yeah, she looked like I did it and

3054
02:29:47,720 --> 02:29:48,320
Speaker 6: I don't care.

3055
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:51,240
Speaker 4: Yep, she goes.

3056
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:53,520
Speaker 2: She looked like Joe.

3057
02:29:54,320 --> 02:30:06,000
Speaker 4: You know, the favorite favorite anime is Bleach. All right,

3058
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:10,840
Speaker 4: that's a good one, thank you.

3059
02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:23,680
Speaker 3: Let's go to the bonus round. Guys, double up saying

3060
02:30:23,800 --> 02:30:25,800
Speaker 3: the race, double up.

3061
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:28,039
Speaker 4: I'm saying the race.

3062
02:30:29,040 --> 02:30:30,920
Speaker 3: That's right, Double the points, double the race for the

3063
02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:33,120
Speaker 3: bonus ride. To guess the raise so far, caring is

3064
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:35,360
Speaker 3: two for two and sores the chat room. But let's

3065
02:30:35,360 --> 02:30:37,520
Speaker 3: see if you can keep it going in the bonus round.

3066
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:46,000
Speaker 4: Steaks is high man. That was a crazy story. Nashville, Tennessee.

3067
02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:51,360
Speaker 3: A shitsu died late last month at the Metropolice Say

3068
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:54,800
Speaker 3: a man put it inside the apartment complex trash compactor.

3069
02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:59,320
Speaker 4: Oh mm hmm, that's right.

3070
02:31:00,520 --> 02:31:06,080
Speaker 9: Dogs trained, getting rid of his dog to sick, sick extreme.

3071
02:31:07,440 --> 02:31:10,600
Speaker 9: It happened at the Arbor Hills Apartments.

3072
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:11,760
Speaker 2: Just south of Bell Rode in Antioch.

3073
02:31:11,800 --> 02:31:14,560
Speaker 9: Brent Vermanda is at the complex where it happened, and

3074
02:31:14,680 --> 02:31:16,920
Speaker 9: we warn you ahead of time, it's hard to listen

3075
02:31:16,959 --> 02:31:21,359
Speaker 9: to some of this. Yeah, very disturbing.

3076
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:21,520
Speaker 2: Here.

3077
02:31:21,560 --> 02:31:24,080
Speaker 9: That's twenty seven year old Terrence Clark, the man who

3078
02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:26,480
Speaker 9: was arrested and charged here. It happened here at this

3079
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:30,520
Speaker 9: Antioch apartment complex, at this compactor here behind US police

3080
02:31:30,520 --> 02:31:32,560
Speaker 9: telling us that the man actually put the dog in

3081
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:34,720
Speaker 9: a trash sack, threw it away, and then turned on

3082
02:31:34,840 --> 02:31:38,800
Speaker 9: the compactor here. Very disturbing. As I mentioned, now, Terrence

3083
02:31:38,879 --> 02:31:42,320
Speaker 9: Clark has a criminal history that's pretty lengthy, including previous

3084
02:31:42,440 --> 02:31:47,080
Speaker 9: charges for attempted first degree murder, criminal homicide, drug possession,

3085
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:51,240
Speaker 9: and theft. Now he was arrested under and charged with

3086
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:54,880
Speaker 9: aggravated animal cruelty. His bond has been set at sixty

3087
02:31:54,959 --> 02:31:58,879
Speaker 9: five thousand dollars though. Once again, a very disturbing situation

3088
02:31:59,000 --> 02:31:59,680
Speaker 9: that went on here.

3089
02:32:01,240 --> 02:32:05,840
Speaker 4: You all right, Karen guessed the race of Terrence Clark.

3090
02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:07,440
Speaker 2: Black.

3091
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:12,040
Speaker 3: Karen's going with black. Let's check the chat room and

3092
02:32:12,120 --> 02:32:19,520
Speaker 3: see what you guys believe. Let's scroll down. Brianna says

3093
02:32:19,600 --> 02:32:23,840
Speaker 3: black first name, and they gave his criminal history.

3094
02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:28,360
Speaker 4: Negro white man who had a crush on his dog,

3095
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:32,400
Speaker 4: hot smash dog.

3096
02:32:33,320 --> 02:32:38,720
Speaker 3: That doesn't even make sense, uh, White white people only

3097
02:32:40,040 --> 02:32:43,520
Speaker 3: kiss dogs on the mouth and sometimes makes love to them,

3098
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:44,200
Speaker 3: not kill them.

3099
02:32:44,280 --> 02:32:44,520
Speaker 4: Black.

3100
02:32:45,120 --> 02:32:47,440
Speaker 3: I think he's a black to white folks love they

3101
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:50,800
Speaker 3: dogs too much. Terrence Black and with a hard R

3102
02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:58,000
Speaker 3: ship ship's mark Laker Black. Don't kiss the dog black.

3103
02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:00,879
Speaker 3: A lot of people went black. I think one person

3104
02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:10,320
Speaker 3: went white. The correct answer is black and one Pierson

3105
02:33:10,360 --> 02:33:21,680
Speaker 3: went white. Okay, here's something that's gonna sound weird to

3106
02:33:21,720 --> 02:33:25,520
Speaker 3: you guys, But you want to know what really bothered

3107
02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:28,880
Speaker 3: me about this story. The news article we had about

3108
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:33,520
Speaker 3: the dude choking out the black women. They were not

3109
02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:36,720
Speaker 3: nearly as sensitive as they were just about the language

3110
02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:39,920
Speaker 3: in this. They were like, this is gonna be so disturbing.

3111
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:41,240
Speaker 2: You got I listen.

3112
02:33:41,440 --> 02:33:44,320
Speaker 3: Trigger warning out there to everyone listening to the news.

3113
02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:47,840
Speaker 3: This is a very disturbing allegations to be able to hear. Okay, guys,

3114
02:33:47,920 --> 02:33:49,359
Speaker 3: go after you, Ted.

3115
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:55,959
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to get through this. That poor dog

3116
02:33:56,120 --> 02:33:57,000
Speaker 4: and you're like Jesus.

3117
02:33:57,120 --> 02:33:59,000
Speaker 3: And then when it's coming to somebody choking out a

3118
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:01,080
Speaker 3: black women, they're like, come up next.

3119
02:34:01,720 --> 02:34:03,480
Speaker 4: Did this man go too far?

3120
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:08,320
Speaker 2: We'll see because we're less. We're literally less than animals.

3121
02:34:08,800 --> 02:34:12,440
Speaker 3: Are your children drinking tap water?

3122
02:34:12,560 --> 02:34:13,360
Speaker 4: That will kill them?

3123
02:34:14,920 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 3: Now?

3124
02:34:15,080 --> 02:34:15,680
Speaker 4: That's scary?

3125
02:34:16,879 --> 02:34:20,000
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, this dog, we gotta play some soft

3126
02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:22,080
Speaker 3: music in the background in the eyes of an angel

3127
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:23,640
Speaker 3: without them.

3128
02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:24,800
Speaker 4: That's so funny.

3129
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:28,880
Speaker 3: That just a different tone, Like you feel like it

3130
02:34:29,040 --> 02:34:31,199
Speaker 3: was like there was more warning than there was story

3131
02:34:31,240 --> 02:34:34,320
Speaker 3: in that ship. This listen, viewers of your home and

3132
02:34:34,360 --> 02:34:37,960
Speaker 3: your half small children, just take them outside and just

3133
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:44,440
Speaker 3: let them up too much? Yeah, soy ratching this time, guys.

3134
02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:08,760
Speaker 3: Samurai sawd attacker found guilty. Oh shit, A Steven's Point

3135
02:35:08,879 --> 02:35:11,200
Speaker 3: man was found guilty after attacking a man with a

3136
02:35:11,240 --> 02:35:11,840
Speaker 3: samurai saw.

3137
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:14,160
Speaker 4: Joshua Bella guess the race White.

3138
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:19,640
Speaker 3: Was convicted of attempted first degree murder. International homicide.

3139
02:35:19,879 --> 02:35:22,240
Speaker 2: I mean why I wasn't International homicide?

3140
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:26,520
Speaker 3: International Homicide Division That sounded like a good movie or

3141
02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:32,040
Speaker 3: TV show starring j Lowe in the National Homicide Uh No,

3142
02:35:32,240 --> 02:35:34,279
Speaker 3: intentional homicide and armed burglary.

3143
02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:37,520
Speaker 4: After a Portish County jury deliberated for two days.

3144
02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:40,360
Speaker 3: In his trial, Bella was excuse of stabbing John Richard

3145
02:35:40,680 --> 02:35:43,119
Speaker 3: three times in the heart with the sword after breaking

3146
02:35:43,160 --> 02:35:46,199
Speaker 3: into his home. Richard drewmates were able to tackle Bella,

3147
02:35:46,360 --> 02:35:47,640
Speaker 3: and Richard was able to survive.

3148
02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:50,840
Speaker 4: That attack still took him two days coording the criminal complaint.

3149
02:35:50,959 --> 02:35:53,720
Speaker 3: Richard had previously kicked bell out of the halfway house

3150
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:57,000
Speaker 3: he owned at the Bella would not participate in urine analysis.

3151
02:35:57,240 --> 02:36:01,080
Speaker 3: The maximum punished bella face is good, it's sixt years

3152
02:36:01,160 --> 02:36:04,279
Speaker 3: sixty years, but because he was charged as a repeat criminal,

3153
02:36:04,400 --> 02:36:05,520
Speaker 3: it could be more severe.

3154
02:36:06,680 --> 02:36:09,280
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. And when you look at this dude's face, listen,

3155
02:36:09,440 --> 02:36:12,640
Speaker 4: I have to show you guy in his face. Well,

3156
02:36:12,720 --> 02:36:17,039
Speaker 4: this dude looks like Christian Bale in that one movie

3157
02:36:17,080 --> 02:36:17,920
Speaker 4: American Psycho.

3158
02:36:18,320 --> 02:36:18,360
Speaker 6: Like.

3159
02:36:18,480 --> 02:36:22,040
Speaker 4: He looks like like he like he looked like the

3160
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:25,120
Speaker 4: picture you have of somebody that killed a lot of people.

3161
02:36:25,360 --> 02:36:29,000
Speaker 4: He got a thick neck look, he has no facial hair.

3162
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:33,320
Speaker 3: That ponytail looks like scary. He looks very much like

3163
02:36:33,360 --> 02:36:34,520
Speaker 3: I just want to eat your skin.

3164
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:37,520
Speaker 2: If you try to tack him and choke and try

3165
02:36:37,600 --> 02:36:38,119
Speaker 2: to choke.

3166
02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:41,920
Speaker 4: Him your hands anyway, be careful out here. These people

3167
02:36:41,959 --> 02:36:42,600
Speaker 4: got swords.

3168
02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:44,760
Speaker 3: They come back to the halfway house. You just trying

3169
02:36:44,760 --> 02:36:46,879
Speaker 3: to help people at the halfway house. They don't want

3170
02:36:46,879 --> 02:36:49,040
Speaker 3: to take the drug test, and now somehow that's your fault.

3171
02:36:50,320 --> 02:36:53,879
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow till then, oh wait,

3172
02:36:53,959 --> 02:36:57,039
Speaker 3: and then Wednesday for a walking Day recap. Our guests

3173
02:36:57,080 --> 02:37:00,680
Speaker 3: will be Jeremy again from the Crown of Hours Podcasting,

3174
02:37:01,120 --> 02:37:03,040
Speaker 3: So until tomorrow, I love you

3175
02:37:03,160 --> 02:37:03,959
Speaker 2: I love it too, ye