1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: We're needing the dough. We've got the flower out. I mean, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: we're literally redefining everything we do. I think he does 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: things at the position that you can't coach, like he 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: can see things. He's not one of those guys you go, ah, 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: he didn't see him. He was wide open. We're gonna 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: push extremely hard to be a really potent passing attack, 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: rushing attack, and the winningest offense in the league. That 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: that's where we want to be. You know, we're chasing 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: that kind of greatness. Welcome into the lounge. We didn't 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: have an episode last week because we're gearing up. Yeah, 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you sometimes you have to exercise patients and then 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: at the end of that you get a really good result. 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: And that's what we hope today is exactly. We have 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Greg Roman his first interview since being named 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens new o c uh and I have a 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: feeling he's going to shed a lot of like he's 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna tell us all the juicy secrets. Oh, he's gonna 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: give us all the dirt, get the game plan, get 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: the whole offensive ski, lay it all out. It may 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: not go that far, but we don't have a great conversation. 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: So without any further ado, that's go ahead and welcome 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: in our new offensive coordinator, Greg Roman. Greg, last time 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: we did an interview like this, it was sening coaches 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: and cars getting coffee. You and I went to dunk 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: in their nuts. No coffee this time. That's okay, that's okay, 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't in the title. I don't expect any coffee. Nice. Nice. 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: Now you're in the lounge, so generally, you know, crack 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: a beer in here or something like that if you're 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: interested in not throwing the work out. We got the 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: example to the podcast, will do it after hours. Once again, 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: I'll make the same joke I made with the coaches 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: and cars having coffee. You're a better employee than I am. 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: So we'll start with this kind of an easy one 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: for you, just the process of being an offensive coordinator again. 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: What's what's that feeling like for you, what's the emotions 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: for you? You know, it's just a great opportunity here, 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: great great organization, great people, and uh, you know, don't 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: take the responsibility lightly. UM, very excited about it, very 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: much entrenched right now with our own staff, rebuilding our offense. UM. 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: One thing I've learned is you know, you're only as 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: good as as how well you um uh put you know, 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: take the entire group individually and collectively of a staff 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: and and utilize and work with everybody. You know, our 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: power uh you know can be multiplied because we've got 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: a lot of smart, sharp people. Uh you know that 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: been in the trade for a while, I know quite 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: a bit. So we've got to met the challenge of 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: a coordinator is really maximizing everybody's abilities, identifying who were 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: strengths lie and and that can be the staff itself 50 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: for players too. So it's a great process and uh 51 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of experience at it, which I'm 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: thankful for that I can draw on and improve on. 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: So very excited though moving forward. So coach Hardball said 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: in his season recap presser that you guys are working 55 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: to build the offense from the ground up. So what 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: does that mean and what does that entail? Great question? 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Uh literally, I mean we have the dough out, the 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: rolling the rolling pin, and we're needing the dough. We've 59 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: got the flower out. I mean we're literally, um redefining 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: everything we do as a staff as a group. Uh 61 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: So you know, literally everything every formation, every route, every run, uh, 62 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, every route concept. How can we make this offense, 63 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: which up until this point has been good. We're trying 64 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: to make it a great as we can be, um, 65 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: but how can we make it as as learnable as 66 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: uh understandable, streamline as efficient? Uh? You know, and and 67 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: and you can really dovetail off into discussion about players 68 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you're getting nowadays from college and what their experience is 69 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: like from college? How do they call plays? How do 70 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: they communicate? How do they understand? How do they learn? 71 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: You know, So our offense will be a very concept 72 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: driven offense and you know, a very uh. Our goal 73 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: is to make it as uh depth and width and 74 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: breadth uh so you know, we can bring bring that 75 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: system to the players and you know, make it as 76 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: user friendly as possible to where guys coming in that 77 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: are new from a college system. Shoot, they might be 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: in a pro system, doubtful, not a lot of them left. 79 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: There might be from some spread offense. You know, what's 80 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna make the most sense to them? How are they 81 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: going to uh, you know, learn what we're doing as 82 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: efficiently as possible. So not only is it geared towards 83 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: guys will be bringing in but it will also hopefully 84 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: make our whole operation be more efficient. Yeah. So it's 85 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: a it's a very stimulating exercise, very time consuming, you 86 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: know really from I think January eleventh is when we 87 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: got started on it, and we've been grinding away at it, 88 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and you know we're only so far 89 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: into it because what I've learned and I've done this 90 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: a few times, um, and really I really feel like 91 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the best version of it. I 92 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: know it is, actually it already is. But um, what 93 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: you run into is, um, you know, it's like putting 94 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: your kids, uh, you know, baking of and or furniture together. 95 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: You know, like if you yeah, there you go, oh god, 96 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: if you make a wrong move early, or if you 97 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: make a move that doesn't make sense early in the process, 98 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: now you've got to unscrew everything and hopefully that paints 99 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: a picture for you. Like it's a it's a methodical process, 100 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: but you've got you know, there's land mines out there, 101 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: so to speak, and you've got to kind of put 102 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: the thing together to where it's going to be systematic. Uh, 103 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and it meets all the goals that you prescribe ahead 104 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: of time. I mean, you're really talking about everything at 105 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: a granular level. So it's a lot of fun, stimulating, 106 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: gives our staff a great time to interact, work through things, problems, 107 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: find solutions, and uh, I think we're gonna you know, 108 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: so far. I'm really really excited because it's very, very 109 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: fun to do this. So so like, I'm curious when 110 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: people have asked me what will the offense look like 111 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen with you as the O C. 112 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I basically said, it'll probably be kind of a bulked 113 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: up version of what they did the second half the 114 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: season when Lamar took over as the started quarterback. Am 115 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: I wrong? That is that accurate? I mean, I think 116 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: there's definitely gonna be elements. I mean, really, let's start 117 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: off with what's it gonna look like. It's gonna look 118 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: like how our players tell us that should look like. 119 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: So obviously with Lamar quarterback, it's gonna, uh, you know, 120 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: be tailored towards Lamar. It's not like we're thrown out, 121 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: but we might add a few you know, we might 122 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: do some things that look like r pos that aren't 123 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, we'll take the next logical step there. Um, 124 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: but you know, who are our receivers, who are tight ends, 125 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: who are running back? So all that stuff will and 126 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: then when you build a system, you want to build 127 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: it wide enough, you know, deep enough and broad enough 128 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: that you can move around in that system efficiently to 129 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: where guys aren't having to memorize all these new things. 130 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: Is there, they understand the concept and you can shift 131 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: move around within that. But to your to your question, um, 132 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: what will it look like? You know a lot of 133 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: it will depend on, you know, how the roster gets shaped, 134 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And uh, you know there's 135 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: a big year for Lamar and his development, but also 136 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: it's a big year for Orlando Brown. You know, can 137 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: we run behind him? Can we pull him more? You know, 138 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: can we pull our left guard, our right guard? All 139 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: that stuff will add up to it. Um, what's our 140 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: deep threat look like? We'll be we'd be able to 141 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: attack people at the third level, you know. So I 142 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of those things will go into it. 143 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think what what we've did 144 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: the last half of last year, Um, you'll definitely see 145 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: elements of that. Is it too simple to say? You know, 146 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: you talk about building around Lamar and that's been kind 147 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: of the big talking point this all season. But is 148 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: it too simple to say, like this is all built 149 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: around Lamar or is that just a fact, like he's 150 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: your he's your franchise quarterback. Now everything and all these 151 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: decisions kind of in a way revolve around him. I mean, 152 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: obviously we talking about Orlando Brown, whether he can pull 153 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: that's not hinging. Doesn't hinge on Lamar? But does does 154 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: a lot of your decisions hinge on Lamar and what 155 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: he can do? Oh yeah, I think that's where That's 156 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: where it starts. Um, that's where it starts. But it 157 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: doesn't end there. You know, there's so many different matchups 158 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: to come up. Factors. The factor in in terms of, hey, 159 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: what's the offense gonna look like? Well, you know, it's 160 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: really gonna the players are gonna decide what it looks like. 161 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,239 Speaker 1: Right now, we're building a system that's going to accommodate 162 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: whatever that could look like. You know what I mean. Um, 163 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: And and we'll go from there. But you know, the 164 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: quarterback is always is always the focal point of the 165 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: direction you go. So let's go backwards. It's a little 166 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: bit you made the transition to this offense when you 167 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: change quarterbacks. Obviously that happened during a bye week. Lamar 168 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: had to figure out what it's like to start in 169 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: the NFL and just get used to playing for an 170 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: entire game. You had to completely change the system for 171 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: the most part, even though you've been doing some of 172 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: the stuff. But it was a change. You know, how 173 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: challenging was that last year? No one complained about anything 174 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: like that, but how challenging was that when you went 175 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: through that process and did that sort of put a 176 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: cap on you know, you can't add everything to the 177 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: equation because you're trying to game plan specific that week. 178 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: So how big of a challenge was that last year? Yeah, 179 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: I mean it was definitely a challenge, but it was 180 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: a fun challenge. M One thing I'd say we were 181 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: the benefit the beneficiaries of was Lamar was our backup. 182 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: So this stuff wasn't Some of it was invented as 183 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: we went, but a lot of it was invented upon 184 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: what we had just done. A lot, you know, the 185 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: core basic principles we had practiced some in training camp, 186 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, with the idea or that the possibility existed 187 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: one way or another that he would be starting and 188 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: if so, you know, what's you know, let's prepare ourselves 189 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: for that problem or contingency or you know, situation. So, um, 190 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: it was definitely um worked on, but it has been 191 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: kind of put on the shelf, you know. But it 192 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: wasn't completely new. The fundamentals, principles and concepts weren't like 193 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: wasn't like whoa what is this? Guys that heard or 194 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: at least dabbled in at some you know, training camp 195 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: and a little bit actually throughout the year as we 196 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: interspersed him in in a two quarterback system, you know. 197 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: But it was definitely a unique change of gears, you know, 198 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: and you know, and and then you always want to 199 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: put yourself on the other side of the ball, like 200 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: you imagine what it was like for those teams that 201 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: had to deal with that right off the get, and 202 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: that that made it even more fun because that couldn't 203 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: have been fun for them. So and kind of piggybacking 204 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: off that, how complex could you make the offense last year? 205 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: Considering all the things that we just talked about, you know, 206 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: ushering him in season on a scale of one ten theoretically, right, 207 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: we like to simplify things, right, how complex could it 208 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: be last year? And then what's the complexity level and 209 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: what can I get to this year? Yeah, we'll see. 210 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean complex is really you know, our our our 211 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: perspective on offenses. We want to take and make it 212 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: easy for us and hard for them. So what appears 213 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: complex to them because of things we've done were added, 214 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: but to us it's simple, you know. So that's always 215 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: our challenge, Like how can I take this complicated idea 216 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: and print you know, concept and present it in such 217 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: a way and teach it in such a way to 218 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: where it's under easily understood. You know, how can I 219 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: barney it down so to speak? As I used to say, 220 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know if we got you. We're still 221 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: but uh, but that's always our challenge. So we want 222 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: we're definitely uh, you know, we definitely wanted to appear complex, 223 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: that's for sure. We want to put as much stress 224 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: on our opponent as possible, and you can do that 225 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: in a variety of ways, you know, So that'll be 226 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: our goal. You know, the most important thing is when 227 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: we get the players back in here and when we 228 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: start working with them and working through that process. But 229 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: we want to make sure we've got the table set 230 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: when they arrive. You know, so we've already mentioned Lamar's 231 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: name about a dozen times, but let's hang out on 232 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: him a little bit longer, because, like we're talking about, 233 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: he is kind of the centerpiece of this whole operation. 234 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: Just what was your assessment of how he played as 235 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: a rookie. You know, I think Lamar has great uh 236 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: intensive intrinsic um uh abilities at the position, like spatial awareness, 237 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: all these important things, uh, you know, death perception. Uh, 238 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: he's got a good feel um. So he's got to 239 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: you know, obviously become more consistent in certain areas. But 240 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, when you combine his progress and development with 241 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: what he's what he already has, you know, the arrows 242 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: up and it's it's gonna go up and one of 243 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: the most encouraging things to me. And I remember saying 244 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: this to somebody around week twelve or thirteen, Well, he's 245 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him throw it like this before. You know, 246 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: it was better than last week, and which was better 247 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: than the week before, and then the next week and 248 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: really it started on the practice field. So um, having 249 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: had that year owners belt, this spring practice time for 250 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: him is going to be very very important in his 251 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: development because you know, he get came in here as 252 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: a rookie with his body of work and his experiences. Um, 253 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: this league is obviously, uh you know, there's a learning 254 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: curve there. Some people take the learning curve fast, some 255 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: people not so much. You know, I thought he did 256 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: a very very good job with it, and he's just 257 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: got to continue, uh becoming a true professional, you know, working. 258 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: Uh you're round on his craft and and and whatnot. 259 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: So um, you know, really this seat this offseason is 260 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: going to be big for him. And uh, you know, 261 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: everything he does, he the more he works at it, 262 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: he gets better at so very encouraged by that. I 263 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: just want to talk about him as a pastor because 264 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: that's what everybody's talking about with him. I mean, we 265 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: all know what he can do as a runner. I 266 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: mean he might be the best running quarterback ever, like 267 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: not right now, But as a pastor, that's somewhere I 268 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: think that we all look at and say, all right, 269 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: he needs to make strides there, as almost every quarterback does. 270 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Where do you think he can improve as a pastor? 271 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: Where do you anticipate that he will improve it? In 272 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: what areas of his passing game? And uh, you know, 273 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: why do you believe that he'll do that. Okay, well, 274 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: let me first start off with I think he does 275 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: things at the position that you can't coach, like he 276 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: can see things. He's not one of those guys you go, 277 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: he didn't see him. He was wide open, or they 278 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: dropped coverage on this guy and he didn't see it. 279 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, that is hugely encouraging because, um, you know, 280 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: some guys just don't have that. You know, they're fundamentally perfect, meticulous, 281 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, with their approach, their eye progression, all that stuff, 282 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: their balance, you know, their alignment, all that they're throwing motion, 283 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: but they can't when when the pause button gets hit 284 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: play and twenty two people are moving. Some guys can't 285 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: process all that at a high level. He can, you know, fundamentally, 286 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: is where he needs to make his most strides. And 287 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: obviously once he gets working with his guys, you know, 288 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: building that rapport, chemistry and relationship you know in real time, 289 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: that's that's big too. But I would rather have a 290 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: guy that can see the field, they can see things, 291 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: and get his get him mechanically fundamentally progressing. Then you 292 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: know the guy that's really really good fundamentally but just 293 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: can't see the field that makes sense, Yeah, definitely, definitely, 294 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: And that's a big, big thing. And I think part 295 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: of that kind of plays into And this is what 296 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: I always tell people is Lamar might not you know, 297 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: it's never it's not gonna look like Joe throwing the ball, 298 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: and it may never look like Joe, like a twenty 299 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: yards out to the sideline, like might not be Lamar's 300 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: best throw ultimately, right, but Lamar is gonna make a 301 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: ton of plays on broken plays, hims getting out of pressure. 302 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: And that's kind of pertains to you talking about seeing 303 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: the field right. Like Ben Roethlisberger, part of what makes 304 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: him great is when a play breaks down, he sees 305 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: that guy get open and he can hit him for 306 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: a big play. Do you get the same feeling that 307 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Lamar can make big plays on broken plays? Kind of 308 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: like that? Well, I mean, yeah, that's that's definitely going 309 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: to be part of the formula. I mean, you don't 310 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: want to go into a game as a code saying, 311 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: hey man, you know, Mars gonna run around make some 312 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: big time plays and that's how we're gonna win. To me, 313 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, you're planning to win the game a certain way. 314 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: And those plays stacked on top of the other plays 315 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: are what we're going to make a big difference. But yes, 316 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: you're counting on those plays, uh, in the back of 317 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: your mind, but you can't say that's what that's our crutch, 318 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, and the reality of it though, they're gonna 319 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: be games we win because of what you just mentioned, 320 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: him making plays when we get off off schedule, you know. 321 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: Um so that's big too. I saw a lot of 322 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: improvement from from when he first stepped in a rookie 323 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: mini caans. Just the way the ball look came out 324 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: of his hands too when the Chargers game, the playoff game, 325 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: like just his actual throwing mechanics and the tight spot 326 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: and everything like that. Did you see a lot of 327 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: improvement in that regard? Oh yeah, a lot of improvement. 328 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: We we just gotta continue to uh develop him, you know. 329 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: And that's uh repetition, I mean, really is the mother 330 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: of that and uh that's very very important. But has 331 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: he made progress? Sure he has. He's made really good progress. 332 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: He's got to keep making progress and he will, you know, 333 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy he is. He's driven to 334 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: be successful and uh, you know that that'll be that'll 335 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: be a key factor in his an hour success though, 336 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: is him continuing to work and uh make that progress. 337 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: Something that's interesting about him is a lot of times, 338 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: when you talk about quarterbacks who have a tendency to run, 339 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: there seems to be a thought of, let's get the 340 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: number of rushes down run less. Where with him, I 341 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know if that's the case, because he's so 342 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: dynamic in that area and that's such a big piece 343 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: of the offense. What your mind is an ideal run 344 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: past balance with him at quarterback, very simply, whatever it 345 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: takes win the game every week, it might be different. 346 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: And one thing I've learned over over the year, I've 347 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: I've worked with a lot of athletic quarterbacks. You know 348 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: that that can affect Yeah, it can affect the game 349 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: with their feet. Even Alex Smith was yeah back then, especially, 350 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: But um, when a quarterback decides to run, he's in control. 351 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: It's it's when the quarterback doesn't see the guy, the 352 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: quarterback in the pocket, the blind hit, you know, somebody 353 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: rolling them up from behind, those kind of things, you know. 354 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: But when a quarterbacks in control, when he you know, 355 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: is running the football, he can pretty much control his fate. 356 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: You know, I can get down, I can get out 357 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: of bounds, I can slide, I can dive. Um. You know, 358 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: so when when the quarterbacks actually running the ball, um, 359 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: I think you you'd find if you really looked at it, 360 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: that they don't really take many shots. And if they do, 361 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: they probably didn't have to. And that's part of the 362 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: continuing education process. But we certainly don't want to go 363 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: into a game saying, hey, we're just gonna run Lamar 364 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: and hope that he can run around and make plays. 365 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: You know, that's not the formula. But um, if people 366 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: I want to play a certain style of defense and 367 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: they don't want to respect his legs, I mean I 368 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: don't care. You can go back through history, you know, Uh, 369 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: Steve Young, fran Tarkington, do you know, go back guys 370 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: that that can that can move and make place at 371 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: their feet. Hey, you better be ready to deal with that. 372 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, you got everybody covered great, are your 373 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: pass rush lanes perfect? Well they better be, you know. 374 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: So that's just another weapon. But in terms of saying, hey, 375 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna call just nothing but zone read 376 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: plays and you know, every week he's running the ball 377 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: twenty times. Now, we're not going to do that, you know, um, 378 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: but it's definitely gonna be a part of what we do, 379 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and it'll it'll vary a week to week. You bring 380 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: up the protecting himself because I think that's a lot 381 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: of times we can talking about him that that's where 382 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the conversation goes, like can't he can't he last without 383 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: getting hurt? Maybe people looking to say, well, r G 384 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: three got hurt. That's what I think affects all, yes, 385 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: and like kind of to the hit that you're talking about. 386 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: People and our fans are like, we look at r 387 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: G three, right, he got hurt, but one of the 388 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: ones he didn't have to take. And I'm not necessarily 389 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: convinced personally that a guy who's a runner is that 390 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: much more likely to be hurt than a guy who's 391 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: a passer. Like, I don't know what the numbers say 392 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: on that Joe Joe got rolled up on for his 393 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: A C L and then his hip, say, I mean 394 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: he got landed hard on his hip and a guy 395 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: lay on top of him in the pocket in the pocket, right, 396 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: and so like you can look at a number of 397 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: guys that pocket pastors that have been injured throughout their career. 398 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: It sounds to me like you're not. Obviously you want 399 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: to protect him, and you want to slide when you 400 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: need to slide to get out of bounds, you need 401 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to get out of bounds and all that. But it 402 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: doesn't sound to me like you're overly concerned about is 403 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: this guy gonna get hurt and are we gonna be 404 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: without him? No? No, but you know, and and gosh, 405 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: I've been through this and I've been overly cautious at times. 406 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: UM in the past. I've kind of been through it. 407 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: But no, I'm not concerned at all as long as 408 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: we are on the same page of an understanding of 409 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: once you decided to run the ball, you're in control, 410 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: and now here's what you need to do. UM, here's 411 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: how you need to handle these situations because unnecessary hits 412 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: are not what we're looking for, you know. UM. Over 413 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: the course of time, and this has been something we 414 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: would meet on last year, UM, generally I think it 415 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: was Friday's. I would get with him and we would 416 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: go through and and really study, you know, his decision 417 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: making process and those situations. And it improved greatly as 418 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: a year went on. But UH, you know's something it 419 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: will continue to improve. But it's no different than a 420 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: quarterback when he I don't care who it is, any 421 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: thirty two starting quarterbacks that decided to scramble for you 422 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: know on third down. Uh, it just may happen more often, 423 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: you know, but if you make great decisions, you know, 424 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: it's it's really the upsides' high and the downside is low. 425 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: So but again, going into a game, most games, you're 426 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: not gonna go We're not going to go into a 427 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: game saying, hey, he's going to tote the rock thirty times, 428 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, weekend and week out. Not at all. But 429 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: but it's an interesting discussion, and it's it's a thing. 430 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: It's a thing I've wrestled with for many years, you know. Um, 431 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: but I feel pretty good about it. So going back 432 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: to the opponent and what they do to kind of, 433 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, react to what you guys are doing in Lamar, 434 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people still talk about the Chargers games, 435 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: the most recent game and everybody's memory which obviously the 436 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: offense of Lamar kind of struggled for three quarters. What 437 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: was it that they did that really bottled up Lamar 438 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: and kind of throw a wrench in our offensive plans 439 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: and why there's been a lot of discussions since then 440 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: if oh, well, did they just catch up to it? 441 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: Did they catch up to Lamar catch up to this 442 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: kind of offense? Is that an example of how it's 443 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: not gonna work long term? Why is that not the case? Well, 444 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're not happy about how that 445 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: how we played that game, or coached or or any 446 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: of it. Really, Um, as far as they played better 447 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: than we did, they coach better than we did. I 448 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: think technique, I think they played better technique than we did. 449 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Up front, you know, they made some decisions that they 450 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: were going to let our backs carry the ball more 451 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: than our quarterback and that's fine, and other teams have 452 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: made that decision. We were just able to do a 453 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: little bit better, you know, blocking them and hitting the 454 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: whole and all security and whatnot. So our ball security. 455 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, that's gonna be one of our our biggest 456 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: themes moving into the spring, is uh, you know, making 457 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: sure we finished finish every possession with the ball. Um 458 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: That played a huge factor in that game. But frankly, UM, 459 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: but you know, as far as scheme wise, very very 460 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: similar to the way we've almost exactly the way they 461 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: played us the first time in the first game out 462 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: in California. So yeah, that was a little bit overrated. 463 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: All the staying like the whole seven dvs a little 464 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: bit more rumor and innuendo. Really interesting. I mean, you 465 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: know what, I do things different Heck, yeah I would, 466 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, but that that really didn't have much of 467 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: anything to do with it. Yeah, um, but credit to them, 468 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: you know, always credit to them. But I think we 469 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: would do things a little bit differently moving forward. Just 470 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: to go back to the point that Ryan brought up 471 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: in terms of sustainability, So like, that's the question that 472 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: some people have about this offense. Can it Can it 473 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: be sustainable from the injury standpoint? We already talked about that, 474 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: can it be sustainable? Because it seems to be more 475 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: run heavy the past heavy when so much of the 476 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: league is moving in this passing direction, Like why why 477 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: do you believe obviously you do does that this is 478 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: a sustainable offense that can last two in many years 479 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: beyond it and we're zigging when everybody else is zagging. Basically, yeah, 480 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: yes and no, um, I like people believing that. But now, 481 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean we've got to develop, um, a strong passing attack, 482 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: and Lamar's got to develop and everybody around him has 483 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: got to get better in that area. You know, obviously 484 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: there'll be more emphasis on that. But you know, here's 485 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: the thing. Um, if you've got a great receiver, what 486 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: do they do? They double them? Right? Um, If they 487 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: got a really good running game, what are they gonna 488 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: do put an extra guy down there. If you've got 489 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: a really good passing game, what are they gonna do. 490 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna tay too deep, They're gonna have 491 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: something right. Everybody wants you to have to fight left handed, 492 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: and the best thing we can do is become be 493 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: able to fight with both hands, you know. So we 494 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: want to be able to run it and pass it, 495 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: and they'll definitely be more of uh more of a 496 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: balance there. You know. That's how you win, that's how 497 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: you that it makes it makes it sustainable. And you know, 498 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: I can point to Seattle there for a while with 499 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: with their quarterback. You know, they were very very run heavy, 500 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: but they got going in the passing games some they 501 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: balanced it out, you know, And that's that's another thing 502 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: we want to do, is make make a lot more 503 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: big plays in the passing game. Take advantage of these 504 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: looks we're getting from defenses who are basically stacking everybody 505 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: up in there and playing they've modified six two defense, 506 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: you know. So um, you know that goes into it too. 507 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: So I definitely think you want we want to have 508 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: U we'll have more balance and um, that's what we're 509 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: pushing to do because if you can. I think you've 510 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: seen in very recent history teams that can run it 511 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 1: and throw it effectively. That's that's the panacea. You know, 512 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: that is where you want to be. You've seen teams 513 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: that are so one one you know, one handed man there. 514 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: They can throw it great, but gosh, when the times 515 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: get tough and they gotta run it, man, they're getting rejected. 516 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: That generally doesn't work. Either. It can, but it doesn't. 517 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: And the team that only runs it, uh and doesn't 518 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: really try to exploit the matchups and the looks you get. 519 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: You know that that can work, but that you're not 520 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: hedging your bets in the in the from a percentage standpoint, 521 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: we want to be great at both, no doubt about it. 522 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know we saw glimpses of it 523 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: this year with you know, the big play action pass 524 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: to Mark Andrews out in California. Um, you know that's 525 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: a reward for running the ball very well. You get 526 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do that, and the guys executed it. 527 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: So you know, we definitely want to be able to 528 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: put as much pressure on the defense at every level, 529 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, short, intermediate, deep, over there, over there, you know, 530 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline. We want to make them have to 531 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: defend the whole field, and if they choose not to, 532 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: we want to be able to exploit it. Do you 533 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: think one of lamar better balls is his deep ball? 534 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: Like he's got nice touch on his deep ball that 535 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: like gives his receiver a chance too. So I feel 536 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: like that third level that you talked about, like that 537 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: is attainable. Yeah, he's definitely shown that ability, you know. Um, 538 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: and he's just got to keep working towards being so 539 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: consistent to where he's hitting them when those opportunities come up. 540 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's hitting them all the time, and I 541 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: know that's how he feels too. Right. So so this 542 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: is your your third time as offensive coordinator, as we mentioned, 543 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, to San Francisco before this in Buffalo. How 544 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: did those experiences you would you say impact you now? 545 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: How do they make you who you are? Now? You know, 546 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Every experience I've had at 547 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: every level of coaching, UM, you kind of draw from 548 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: in this kind of role. UM really any and every 549 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 1: at every level of the organization. UM. And because no 550 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: matter where you are, UM. Shoot, I started off as 551 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: a glorified g A worked in the weight room. Uh, 552 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, coached on the defensive side, and you just 553 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: when you're around it that much at every level you 554 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: start to you just learned. You just learn things by 555 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: doing you know, time on task and UM specifically the 556 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: coordinate coordinator roles. UM. I mean, shoot, you can you know, 557 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: there's no greater learning experience and experience, you know, and uh, 558 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: I can look back and man, I would have done 559 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: that differently, or man, that was really good. I was 560 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: a good thought, or that wasn't or what if I 561 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: had approached this a different way? But I'd say the 562 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: thing I mentioned earlier maybe the best. The biggest thing 563 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: I've learned is that, you know, being uh able to 564 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: take our staff and being able to maximize their talents. 565 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of talented guys coaches on our staff, 566 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 1: and you know, really uh really trying to be a 567 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: force multiplier and trying to come up with the best solutions, 568 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: the best answers, the best plans. Uh, just you know, 569 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: really maximizing everybody and that that's the players as well. 570 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Does this remind you of what you went through in 571 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco? We've got a horriball as a head coach. 572 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: You got Colin Kaepernick obviously was a quarterback there, but 573 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: a dual threat, dynamic quarterback, you know, Crabtree was you know, 574 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: in both places, Like there's a lot of similarities that 575 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: that that seemed to exist between those two places. Yeah, 576 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, every situation is different. I think 577 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: it's great that I'm able to draw on that experience 578 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: because there are similarities there are very very much so um, 579 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: but you know this situation will be different, and uh, 580 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: you know having those experiences, uh, you know they're priceless really, 581 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: you know really as I look at it, you get 582 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: a really great chance to be critical yourself and how 583 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: you did things and you know, situations that you were in. 584 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Would you handle them differently? All those things? So um, 585 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: you know verys to have had those experiences and be 586 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: able to do this moving forward. Would you would you 587 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: have thrown at the crab tree on the goal line, 588 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: and Super Bowl again, I have to ask you that 589 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: there we go. I'm sure that debate still hasn't been 590 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: settled in the Harriball household either about whether it was 591 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: a whether it was a p I ancient history fellow. So, 592 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean one thing with the learning experience, Yeah, with 593 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: your your reputation. You know, in Buffalo and in San Francisco, 594 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: everybody talks about these running games, these amazing running games 595 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: that you've orchestrated and put together. I mean, the stats 596 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: just beared out that you've always had a really good 597 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: rushing attack. The passing attack hasn't been ranked as high. 598 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Part of that is because you haven't thrown it. You've 599 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: run the ball a lot, so your average yards per 600 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: game just kind of works out that way. But for 601 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: those listening, explain to them, why, uh you know you're 602 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: going to craft a good passing attack here? Well, I'd 603 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: say number one the greatest gift you can give is winning. Um, Like, 604 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: if you look at all the three yard passing games 605 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: this year, passers, tell me how many of those were 606 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: attached to a win. I'll let you go dig that up. Now, 607 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: you might be surprised. Yeah, so, um, I try to 608 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: look beyond uh fool's gold, so to speak. The biggest 609 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: thing is we've got to have a great passing attack 610 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: that can attack all coverages, be consistent and winning the clutch, 611 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, in all situations as well. So you know, 612 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: it's a NonStop uh you know, you're chasing that mythical 613 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: ridgeline that never ends. You know, you're constantly trying to 614 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: improve that, you know, in the in in those situations, 615 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: I'd say we were built, uh definitely in a way 616 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: that we were the best chance to win and was 617 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: too kind of operate within a specific formula um. But 618 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: when we had you know, I will say this like 619 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: games where it was like, hey, we got to score 620 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: some big points in this game, and these guys we 621 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: got good matchups here. You know, the passing numbers were huge. 622 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: But if I didn't have to do that the next 623 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: week to win, I wouldn't you know. I was more 624 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: concerned about winning and setting things up for the future, 625 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, rather than chasing chasing those stats. I'm always 626 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: chasing the wind column stat you know. And one thing 627 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: about Baltimore haven't been here in the past and again now, Man, 628 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: the Baltimore fans, they want to win. They want to win. 629 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: They don't really care how we win. They want a 630 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl here with incredible defense. And Jamal Lewis right, 631 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: Jamal Lewis left a lot of happy a lot of 632 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: happy campers because they were the champs. You know, they won, 633 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: So how you win? I don't really get caught up 634 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: in that. That's that's really You gotta take your players 635 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: and make them as good as they can be and 636 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: maximize their collective abilities to win. And uh, you know, 637 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: if that if we are built in such a fashion, 638 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: then or we're playing teams where man, we gotta take 639 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: advantage of these guys and make them pay, then we've 640 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: got to be able to do that, you know what 641 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we're not that. You can look at 642 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: some very recent teams that were Man, they might have 643 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: been even number one in passing, but are you kidding me? 644 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I mean they're turning the ball 645 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: over there, throwing interceptions there. You know, nothing demoralizes a team, 646 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, as much as just that sloppy approach 647 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: to things where hey, we're chasing stats, but we don't 648 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: care what happens. You know, that's not fair to the 649 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: to the rest of the team. So you know, we 650 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: will you know, we're gonna push extremely hard to be 651 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: a really potent passing attack, rushing attack, and the most 652 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: the winningest offense in the league. That that's where we 653 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: want to be. You know, we're chasing that kind of 654 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: greatness and my experiences, uh, you're gonna when you do 655 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: that and you're successful, you're gonna have great stats in 656 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: in certain areas and things you've got to continue to 657 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: work on. It might be passing, it might be rushing, 658 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: it might be this or that, But as far as 659 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: building a passing attack, that's fun. We're having a lot 660 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: of fun doing that. That's actually what we're doing right now. 661 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what we're doing that big time. Um, 662 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: but even were we're doing it really at every level, Like, 663 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: how what is the simplest, most efficient way that we 664 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: can be a multidimensional offense for the players to communicate 665 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: understand you know, formations, motions, everything, you know, how can 666 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: we you can't? The ultimate thing would be telekinesis right. 667 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: The quarterback just looks at everybody. Everybody knows what he's 668 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: saying because he just communicated its own and bam, we're 669 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: moving fast. Were he had a sore throat at the 670 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: end of the game, he was yelling so much. But 671 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: but you know that's obviously we haven't gotten to that point. 672 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: So we have we have to be able to communicate 673 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: and be able to be as hard to prepare for 674 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: as as possible. You know, we want to be the 675 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: hardest team to prepare for in the National Football League, 676 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: and we will be, but we want to do it 677 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: in such a fashion that is really really up, you know, learnable, likable, 678 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: all those good good terms, and as efficient streamline. And 679 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: I go back to a lot of teams in college. 680 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, they they're not huddle. What's a huddle? You know? Now, 681 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: I think we were up there in time of possession 682 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: this year, and we want to do that as well. 683 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: You know, we want to be able to control a game. 684 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: So huddling as good at times because you're you're you know, 685 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: you are definitely um keeping the other offense on the 686 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: sideline and whatnot. But we will also employ many different 687 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: tempos as well. It is interesting what a big takeaway 688 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: from from this talk is You're you're wanting to kind 689 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: of mold this offense to be an easy transition from college, 690 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: like taking things from college kind of making it more 691 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I think, I mean, I think ultimately 692 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 1: that's where the future is going to be. UM. But 693 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: also from a coaching standpoint, players aren't taught the same 694 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: way they used to be in a pro style system. 695 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: You know, they're uh, everything is a lot quicker, more 696 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: bullet point. You can we can have the discussion about 697 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: attention span now you know what I mean on Twitter 698 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: if you can, if you can present present what we're 699 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: doing in such a fashion, it's an easier transition for them, 700 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: which means better for us. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. So 701 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: we'll wrap up with a few questions about specific position groups. 702 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: We've talked enough about quarterback, but wide receiver this is 703 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: always like a huge discussion obviously every offseason around here, 704 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: and that's the case once again. So a debate that 705 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: Make and I have been having with each other fairly 706 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: often is what the ideal wide receiver looks like in 707 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: this offense. So DK Metcalf, did you see that photo? 708 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: Did you see the picture of Dk Metcalf? I'm keeping 709 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: all my scouting thoughts. That's what if you can just 710 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: look at me and it's kind of a representational. Yeah, 711 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: right right, I can help you right now. Guys that 712 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: guys that can get open and catch the ball at 713 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: an elite level and and can deal with people on 714 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: press man de band situations. You know, those are the 715 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: guys we want. Those are the guys. You know though, 716 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: that is the ideal guy now there are. You don't 717 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: need to have four of them guys like that. The 718 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: other guys you know, need to be dependable, reliable, but 719 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: in this offense to to kind of go where you're going, 720 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: we want guys that are tough mentally and physically dependable, reliable, 721 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, they could be able to block sure handed guys, 722 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: but physical guys as well. But the the the the 723 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: guys with the elite skill set or the guys that 724 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: make themselves into elite receivers that get open, catch the 725 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: ball consistently. Um, that's what that that's no different than 726 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: any other offense. You know, point scorers. And how do 727 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: you look at the running back position, because obviously Gusts 728 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: did really well last year and Katie when he came back, 729 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: he ran really well. Uh, you have have Alex Collins. 730 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: He was awesome, the year before. How do you look 731 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: at that position group and and uh, you know, just 732 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: to stay what you have. Well, um, all those guys 733 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: have very positive traits and um, you know one is 734 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: never enough in this league. You know, you've got to 735 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: have a stable of them. Um. You know, this organization, 736 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: this team has heads the elite running backs over the years, 737 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: and I think you're always looking for that guy, you know, 738 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: a guy that can make things happen on his own. 739 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: You know, we'll get all this done for you. And 740 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: hopefully if you deal with that one guy, if you 741 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: can deal with that one guy, however you deal with him, 742 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: that's how you get those big plays. So um, but 743 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: we you know, running backs are all unique, you know, 744 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: very much like quarterbacks. You know, they're all unique. They 745 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: all have a different style, and we don't necessarily have 746 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: to have the three clones of the same guy. You know, 747 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: they can all be unique. We can use them in 748 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: different ways. But that you know, elite running skills is 749 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: where it starts. You know, here's the ball, go do now, 750 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: make it happen, right, yeah, make it happen. There might 751 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: be a you know, a type of read involved in 752 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: the play for him based on the concept of the 753 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: run where he's got to be able to read the 754 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: blocking scheme or it might be more of a point 755 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: of entry run or a perimeter type run. But we 756 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: we have the memes, uh to use any kind of 757 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: running back with with skill um a variety of ways. 758 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: So let's finish up with tight ends because you this 759 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: is a position obviously that you know intimately well, you've 760 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: worked with the tight ends since you've returned here in Baltimore. 761 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: So last year Mark Andrews comes in and was had 762 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: a great rookie season was probably one of the I 763 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: would say surprises of the draft in terms of what 764 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens did just the production that he had. Hayden 765 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: Hurst didn't have a strong of a rookie season as 766 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: he dealt with the injury early. So what do you 767 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: think is the key for Hayden to kind of get 768 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: on track and and find the way that uh, the 769 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: Ravens expect out of him as being a first round pick. 770 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: And then what's the next set for Mark too? Well, 771 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: both of those guys very excited about them. Uh, you 772 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: know Mark was injured in training camp. Was kind of 773 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: a role reversal. Yeah, I was kind of worried about 774 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: that young man training camp, and then all of a sudden, 775 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: towards the end of training camp, he got healthy, got 776 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: on the field, and I think it was before we 777 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: played Washington in the preseas season game. During practice that week, 778 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa this guy is? Is is taking 779 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: off like he's figuring things out rapidly. It was very 780 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: frustrating for him prior to that. And then he kind 781 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: of grabbed the brass ring at that point. He was 782 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 1: getting to the point where Hayden was at. Hayden had 783 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: the unfortunate injury, and you know, he missed a big 784 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: part of time, a big piece of time, and really 785 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: the first two to three weeks coming out of that 786 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: was just kind of like ramping up time, you know. 787 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: But I like, really like how he caught stride towards 788 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: the end of the season, at the very end of 789 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: the season. Moving forward, uh, you know, he didn't have 790 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: a ton of opportunities throughout the year to really impact 791 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: a lot of games. He just kept grinding and kept 792 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: fighting through It was a great experience for him. We 793 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 1: expect him to be that much more of a pro 794 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: coming in this year. A very professional guy, but understanding 795 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: this game. Like I said to them last year and 796 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: whenever we brought him in, I said, you'll be shocked 797 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: at how much you learned. Next January you'll sit there 798 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: and go, Wow, holy cow, I've learned a lot. My 799 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: perspective has changed. So they've got that under their belt. 800 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: Those guys they're only gonna they're only gonna get better. 801 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: Those guys are they're gonna be really good. Right and 802 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: last with last one, with this, Bobby Anger moved from 803 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: wide receiver's coach tight ends coach. It's part of the 804 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: thinking there that you know you're still gonna work a 805 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: lot in terms of the run game and orchestraing that 806 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: and the tight ends and they're blocking role because that's 807 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: they're so important in your run game that Bobby can 808 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: really work with them in terms of receiving and being 809 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: big time pass catchers in this offense. You know, Andy 810 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: Bischoff worked with me with the tight ends for a 811 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: couple of years, so he's really going to assume a 812 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: big role in that area. And then Bobby is going 813 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: to be able to really use his expertise with those 814 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: guys um and all the different UH passing game, route running, 815 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: um winning off the line, maybe we split these guys 816 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: out a little bit more where their bigger receivers quote unquote. 817 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, now he'll really be able to help them, 818 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 1: uh coach them in that area, you know. But Bish 819 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: will have the other part of it handled, you know. 820 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: And as I told all the coaches, I'm gonna wear 821 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: my ugly head everywhere. Well, thank you so much, Greg, 822 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. So we took a lot of 823 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: your time up here today and then okay, I appreciate 824 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: the time with you guys. Thank you alright, really good 825 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: stuff from Greg. I'm excited about this offense more Yeah, 826 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: after that interview than I was. Not to say that 827 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: I wasn't excited before, because I was, but I'm more 828 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: excited now. So going back to what I asked him, 829 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: when I said, when I described basically my vision of 830 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: what the offense will look like, a souped up version, 831 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: and said, am I wrong? Now? He gave a long 832 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: winded answer, but he didn't really say whether I was 833 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: right or wrong. What do you say? Am I right 834 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: or wrong? Um? I mean, I would probably still describe 835 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: it as it's gonna be a better version of that, 836 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: but I do think that it was interesting. You know. 837 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: He he talked a lot about wanting you to have 838 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: a good passing game, and I think that the Ravens 839 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: will evolve into uh. You know, I think you even 840 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: said that you could see them being more run heavy 841 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: next year than they were this past season. I don't 842 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 1: know that I agree with that notion. After this interview, 843 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they are striving to be a 844 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: balanced offense uh and be able to run the ball 845 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 1: officially and throw it. Now, will they be more run 846 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: heavy than the rest of the league, Yes, but I 847 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: don't think that their aim is to be as I 848 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: think last year to kind of what he was saying, 849 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: we were we were fighting with one hand in large 850 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: into a large degree, and we want to be able 851 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: to throw with both hands. We saw you see the 852 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: New England Patriots, right, I mean, when they want need 853 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, they could throw the ball with 854 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and co. But when they run, needed to 855 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: run the ball, or even just wanted to run the 856 00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: ball because that was the best matchup they were getting. 857 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: He did so with Sonny Michelle and company. Well, I 858 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. Like Brady last year through for 859 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: like four fifty yards and the Super Bowl. Lost to 860 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: Phil this year, not a very good statistical super Bowl Forum, 861 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: one of his worst statistical Super Bowl performances, and they won. 862 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: And that's what Greg's point is too. We're trying to 863 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: build a winning offense. No, I think the Ravens last 864 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: year they went through the process on defensive, building it 865 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: from scratch and how that end up ended up pretty 866 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: during good tub of league. How about number one defense, 867 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: number one Offfen's baby wors super Bowl this year it's Miami, 868 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: al right. So that said, thank you so much to 869 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: Gregrowing for joining us, and we'll be back with you 870 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: guys next week.