WEBVTT - The First and Final Crimes of Jocelin Harwood

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a handful of famous historical highway robbers whose names

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<v Speaker 2>and stories are still recognizable today, but the stories of

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<v Speaker 2>many highway robbers have become lost to history, or sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>confused with other robbers, or they turn out to be fictional.

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<v Speaker 2>Highway robbers primarily robbed carriages and often homes too, along

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<v Speaker 2>their preferred roads. When caught, charges against them were often

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<v Speaker 2>for robbery and horse theft, and during certain periods in history,

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<v Speaker 2>rewards and sometimes large rewards, were offered to anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>could capture a highwayman, and those convicted of highway robbery

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<v Speaker 2>were executed by hanging for their crimes. Jocelyn Harwood in

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<v Speaker 2>Our hot Seat this episode was a highway robber who

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<v Speaker 2>took things way too far one night, adding four horrific

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<v Speaker 2>and gruesome murders to his rap sheet. We are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to go into detail on his various highway robbery

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<v Speaker 2>adventures because frankly, a lot of them read kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. Pull out your pistol, yell your money

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<v Speaker 2>or your life. His crimes escalate greatly, though, so instead

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about his first hold up and

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<v Speaker 2>his last. He was insolent, he was violent, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is his bloody story. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria Tremarky.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Holly Frye. Jocelyn Hardwood was a highwayman who

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<v Speaker 1>committed such quote barbarous murders, and he was just so

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<v Speaker 1>wow that his fellow criminal associates betrayed him and gave

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<v Speaker 1>him up to the authorities, because even they could not

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<v Speaker 1>stomach his depraved behavior. The night of his final crime,

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<v Speaker 1>if any highwayman jumped the shark, as the saying goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it may have been Joscelyn. Moralized stories of crime that

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<v Speaker 1>may not be entirely factual appeared in the popular Newgate Calendar,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joscelyn's story was one of them. In print, He's

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<v Speaker 1>described as quote a degenerate plant from a good tree,

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<v Speaker 1>and that actually seems like a pretty apt description. His

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<v Speaker 1>father was, as far as anyone can tell, an honest person,

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<v Speaker 1>and the family was well off and had a good reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>Author Pascal Bonenfont writes that Joscelyn was the quote greatest

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<v Speaker 1>misfortune of his father's life. Joscelyn was born in sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine at Wateringbury in Kent. Some accounts of his

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<v Speaker 1>life report that he was educated, while a few others

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that maybe he had just some schooling. But whatever

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<v Speaker 1>his education level, none of that really mattered to Joscelyn.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the age of seventeen, Joscelyn committed his first offense.

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<v Speaker 2>He ran away from his family's home and took about

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<v Speaker 2>sixty pounds with him. He fled to London, where he

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<v Speaker 2>was looking for some excitement and to whet some of

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<v Speaker 2>his appetites. He lavishly spent the money he stole from

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<v Speaker 2>his father on all of the vices he could afford,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, making a rain like that caught the

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<v Speaker 2>attention of the wrong crowd, and soon Jocelyn was working

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<v Speaker 2>for the wrong crowd. In the first three years running

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<v Speaker 2>with them, his jobs primarily included smaller crimes like pickpocketing

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<v Speaker 2>and pilfering. But he wanted some power and wealth of

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<v Speaker 2>his own and decided to dip his toe into highway robbery.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a time in highway robbery where those actively

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<v Speaker 2>working the gig could make quite a bit of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Another plus, he could be his own boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Joscelyn stole a horse, which he named Blackheath. He also

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<v Speaker 1>stole a bridle, a saddle, holsters, and flintlock pistols, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got out of town. Well really, he just went

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<v Speaker 1>to the roads near town, ready and excited for his

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<v Speaker 1>first highway robbery. He soon came upon two men traveling

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<v Speaker 1>together in a carriage, approaching them on horseback. He pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out his pistol and yelled out the highway greeting your

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<v Speaker 1>money or your life. But things definitely took a turn

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<v Speaker 1>from what he may have imagined and hoped for from

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<v Speaker 1>this robbery, and it was definitely for the worse, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for him. One of the men drew a gun

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<v Speaker 1>and shot the horse, Black Heath, causing Joscelyn to fall

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground. Still alive, he walked away with non

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<v Speaker 1>fatal wounds, but he was without his horse because Blackheath's

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<v Speaker 1>injuries were too great.

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<v Speaker 2>But Joscelyn couldn't help but notice something about that failed

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<v Speaker 2>robbery attempt. As he shuffled away from the scene. The

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<v Speaker 2>men who should have been his victims and should have

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<v Speaker 2>been frightened of him, weren't. Instead, they'd been brave enough

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<v Speaker 2>to attack him, and he had not expected or even

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<v Speaker 2>considered that victims would do that. There were indeed some

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<v Speaker 2>passengers who did travel with armed escorts or they themselves

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<v Speaker 2>carried pistols for protection. In spite of this failure, Joscelyn

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<v Speaker 2>didn't quit life as a highway robber, and for about

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<v Speaker 2>two or three years he continued to target carriages and

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<v Speaker 2>homes on the highways around London. He got better at

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<v Speaker 2>it and it became a lucrative time for him. However,

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<v Speaker 2>much like when he stole money from his father only

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<v Speaker 2>to play it away, Joscelyn spent most of his highway

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<v Speaker 2>robbery loot in excess on his vices.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break here for a word

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<v Speaker 1>from our sponsors, and when we're back we will tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story of how Joscelyn the highway Robber became Joscelyn

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<v Speaker 1>the murderer.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about the final crime

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<v Speaker 2>Jocelyn committed and how it cost him and four other

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<v Speaker 2>people their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>The abbe LeBlanc, who we've named dropped in previous episodes

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<v Speaker 1>this season, wrote in the mid seventeen hundreds about highwaymen.

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<v Speaker 1>His writing about the attitudes of the English toured highwaymen

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<v Speaker 1>has an interesting and kind of opposite flavor from what

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<v Speaker 1>most highwaymen were actually like. He states, quote tales of

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<v Speaker 1>their cunning and generosity were in the mouths of everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and he continued quote a noted thief was a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hero that, though sounds very little like the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of most highwaymen. Joscelyn's story has never been confused with

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<v Speaker 1>the heroic legend of robin Hood, as is the case

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<v Speaker 1>with some of his peer highway robbers. He's also never

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<v Speaker 1>been considered a romantic figure or a gentleman robber. But

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<v Speaker 1>even though there are a lot of stories like that,

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<v Speaker 1>not many highwaymen actually were.

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<v Speaker 2>The night Blackheath was killed by Joscelyn's intended victims is

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<v Speaker 2>his first crime as a highway robber, And as we

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<v Speaker 2>noted earlier in the episode, instead of repeating the stories

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<v Speaker 2>of all the carriages he robbed and how many homes

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<v Speaker 2>he looted over the years, we're going to jump to

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<v Speaker 2>his last crime, and this is when a highway robber

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a ruderous burglar.

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<v Speaker 1>There were highway robbers who robbed but also kidnapped and murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them were actually violent there's one anecdote about

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<v Speaker 1>a highwayman who cut out the tongues of his victims,

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<v Speaker 1>ensuring that they could not describe him to authorities, but

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<v Speaker 1>that certainly was not a requirement for the job. Joscelyn

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<v Speaker 1>committed his most barbaric crime when he was only twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three years old, and that crime was not highway robbery,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was robbery at least it started out that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Joscelyn learned, you know that kind of wink wink, nudge nudge,

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<v Speaker 2>learned of a man named Sir Neiamiah Burrows. But note

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<v Speaker 2>though his given name sometimes differs depending on who's telling

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<v Speaker 2>the story, and he was at least rumored to be

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<v Speaker 2>a very wealthy man. Those in the robbery business assumed

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<v Speaker 2>he had a fortune just waiting to be taken. That

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<v Speaker 2>fortune was thought to contain money and plate he kept

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<v Speaker 2>in his house. In this instance, plate could refer to

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<v Speaker 2>plate money, which is usually made of cheap metal like copper,

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<v Speaker 2>and stamped to indicate their value, which is usually quite low.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's really doubtful. It's much more likely to be

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<v Speaker 2>referring to Burrow's tangible wealth, such as his silver goblets

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<v Speaker 2>and his ornate serving plates and precious stones and jewels,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the things that showed off just how wealthy

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<v Speaker 2>he was.

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<v Speaker 1>As you may expect, Joscelyn immediately wanted that fortune, and

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<v Speaker 1>with two accomplices, he committed what might be his first burglary.

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<v Speaker 1>When the men broke into the house, they first tied

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<v Speaker 1>up the domestic help. Then they tied up Burrows and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife. Next, scouting the house, Joscelyn found the bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>that the Burrough's daughter shared. As he was tying up

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<v Speaker 1>the girls, one of them asked him to be gentle,

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<v Speaker 1>and in return, she said she would not identify him

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<v Speaker 1>in this crime. According to the popular papers of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>she pled quote pray, sir, use us civilly, which if

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<v Speaker 1>you do, we will use you in the same manner

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<v Speaker 1>in case you and your companions should be taken for

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<v Speaker 1>I am sure we shall know you again, Joscelyn replied

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<v Speaker 1>to her, but not with any kind of romanticized highway

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<v Speaker 1>gallantry or even just silence. Rather, he said, quote shall

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<v Speaker 1>you so? I'll take care then to prevent your doing

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<v Speaker 1>any mischief.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Jocelyn's first burglary took a very big turn

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<v Speaker 2>into a murderous bloody night. He was not gentle, and

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't be able to identify him because after tying

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<v Speaker 2>them up, he proceeded to quote cut the girls in

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<v Speaker 2>pieces with his hangar sword, which is a sword designed

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<v Speaker 2>as a side arm for close quarter fighting. Next, he

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<v Speaker 2>murdered Burrows and his wife, and then he walked away,

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<v Speaker 2>pleased and looking like he'd been awarded a new Merit badge.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Newgate Calendar, Joscelyn's a acomplices were both

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<v Speaker 1>astonished by his violence and his viciousness. This was not

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<v Speaker 1>what they had planned or expected, and so they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to expose him his crimes and his inhumanity. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>him up to authorities.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a break for a word from

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors, and when we're back, we'll talk about Jocelyn's

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<v Speaker 2>capture and his death.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Of course, there is more than

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<v Speaker 1>one version of how Joscelyn Harwood was captured. The first

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<v Speaker 1>is actually pretty short. His horrified accomplices were able to

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<v Speaker 1>overpower him, then tie him up, and then they left

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<v Speaker 1>him in the house with an incriminating piece of evidence

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<v Speaker 1>for authorities to find. What they left behind is lost

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<v Speaker 1>in this version, but I'm thinking all of those bodies

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<v Speaker 1>probably were enough. They wanted actually to bring Joscelyn to justice,

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<v Speaker 1>and while they left the scene without him, they did

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<v Speaker 1>still take the loot.

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<v Speaker 2>And the second version, the one most often told, goes

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<v Speaker 2>like this. His accomplices agreed they'd capture him, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the Burroughs home. It was on horseback. Unclear

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<v Speaker 2>if this was the same night as the murder or

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<v Speaker 2>if it was just shortly thereafter. Their first move was

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot his horse out from under him. After he'd

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<v Speaker 2>fallen to the ground, they tied him up both hands

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<v Speaker 2>and feet and left him there on the ground. With him,

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<v Speaker 2>they also left an incriminating piece of evidence by his side,

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow's plate, which would have been traced back to its owner.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day, after some questioning and investigation, Jocelyn was

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<v Speaker 2>found in the same place and same condition as when

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<v Speaker 2>his accomplices had left him.

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<v Speaker 1>Apprehended, Joscelyn was sent under the eye of heavy security

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<v Speaker 1>to Shrewsbury Jail. An account suggests that once he got

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<v Speaker 1>there he quote behaved very audaciously. He could have gone

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<v Speaker 1>on trial for a variety of crimes, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>the murder and robbery that he committed at the borough's

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<v Speaker 1>home that he stood for. Joscelyn's trial was reportedly quite

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, and mainly because of his behavior during it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is little to read about the details of the

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<v Speaker 1>court proceedings, although there are some that give us descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>that say he spit in the faces of the judge

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<v Speaker 1>and jury, and almost all records agree that he used

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<v Speaker 1>vulgar and indecent language in the courtroom, and he did

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<v Speaker 1>so loudly.

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<v Speaker 2>He was sentenced to death by hanging, to be followed

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<v Speaker 2>with his body being gibbeted to warn other highway robbers

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<v Speaker 2>or other criminals not to follow his brutal path. But

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<v Speaker 2>one notable thing about his behavior in the courtroom wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily the profanity when the judge handed down his sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't seem to bother Joscelyn or make any impression

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<v Speaker 2>on him at all. He just continued his disrespectful and

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<v Speaker 2>rude behavior through the entire trial as if he hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>heard he was just given a death sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>Specifics of the day of his execution vary, but only

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<v Speaker 1>by a little. Some accounts indicate that he arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>Tyburn quote insolently drunk. His intoxication is really the only

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<v Speaker 1>maybe part. Tyburn Tree was a wooden gallows where criminals were,

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<v Speaker 1>for more than six hundred and fifty years hanged to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Most accounts report Jocelyn continued that same defiant and contemptuous

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<v Speaker 1>behavior that he had in the courtroom as he approached

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<v Speaker 1>the gallows. He was executed in sixteen ninety two, shouting

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<v Speaker 1>from the gallows that quote, he would act the same

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<v Speaker 1>murder again in the same case.

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<v Speaker 2>Jocelyn's crimes and his execution for them came at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of what's called the Golden Age of highway robbery,

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<v Speaker 2>which is largely considered to have been between sixteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>and seventeen fourteen, though the crime was certain not confined

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<v Speaker 2>to those years. At that time, horses were cheap to buy,

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<v Speaker 2>guns were easy to buy. Taverns meant for on the

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<v Speaker 2>go passengers to have a bite to eat and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>rent a room, were also easy hideouts for robbers to

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<v Speaker 2>plan and to distribute loot amongst themselves. Plus, with new

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<v Speaker 2>turnpike roads to improve transportation, it all led to new

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<v Speaker 2>criminal opportunities which led to highway robbery.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of robbing people on the road dates back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Middle Ages at least, and maybe men probably earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>But during the Golden Age, give or take a decade,

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<v Speaker 1>it's said that highway robbers in England were quote as

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<v Speaker 1>common as crows. The end of the highwaymen came about

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<v Speaker 1>a century after Joscelyn robbed the roads. The downfall began

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the eighteenth century, and in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh five mounted police started to patrol the roads around

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<v Speaker 1>London day and night. The officers that took part in

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<v Speaker 1>this patrol were nicknamed Robin Redbreasts because of their red uniforms.

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<v Speaker 1>But things got even worse for highway robbers when the

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<v Speaker 1>official Metropolitan Police were established in eighteen twenty nine. After

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<v Speaker 1>the last highway robber gang, the Hannam and Cockroad Gang,

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<v Speaker 1>were apprehended by police in eighteen fifty, there remained only

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<v Speaker 1>some small, remote clusters or even fairly isolated men and

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<v Speaker 1>women still trying to get your money or your life.

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<v Speaker 2>What you got in that hip flask?

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<v Speaker 1>Who ready? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one's scary, just because, as Maria and I

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<v Speaker 1>were discussing before we started recording, this person is clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a sociopath and it's very frightening. Yeah, just the complete

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<v Speaker 1>disregard for anything is very very scary.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something going on and it's not it's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a scary person in me. I, in thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>a drink for this, did not want to do any

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<v Speaker 1>of the gruesome things. But the detail that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>caught my attention than that, I found myself thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot this round is actually the Tyburn Tree, which

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up and started reading about because it is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a spot that is still marked today

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<v Speaker 1>and it is very interesting. So I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>a drink that had a plant note to it. This

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<v Speaker 1>actually has a couple and I wanted to do something

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little hard hitting without being too crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a nice, simple cocktail. But I will say

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. And this is one of those ones where,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike normally when I'm preparing for the show and I

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<v Speaker 1>am making drinks and testing them, I have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>SIPs and the rest kind of goes in the sink.

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<v Speaker 1>Not this one. I didn't mean. It's another one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to drink the whole thing, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the first one, I was like, is this

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<v Speaker 1>too tart? And then the second sip I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually pretty smooth, it's just not super sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the third sip I was like, I really

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<v Speaker 1>like this one, and then it was you know, weird

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<v Speaker 1>trouble after that. So this one, you're gonna prepare by

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<v Speaker 1>doing a trick we've done before, which is infusing some

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<v Speaker 1>gin with green tea. So you're just gonna take four

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<v Speaker 1>ounces of gin and throw a tea bag or equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>loose tea into it. You'll have extra, you'll have enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make two drinks because you need two ounces, but

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<v Speaker 1>doing two ounces of a tea bag seems wasteful. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get more flavor out of it than that, so

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<v Speaker 1>let that sit. Doesn't take long twenty thirty minutes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very green tea, so you are going too in

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<v Speaker 1>your shaking tin. Also make sure you have a cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>glass chilling. You're gonna put one ounce of lime juice,

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<v Speaker 1>just a half ounce of simple syrup, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>need an ounce of pear juice. And we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>this from like one of those little snack pack cups

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<v Speaker 1>of dice pears, or you can do canned pears, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this. We need an ounce, and

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<v Speaker 1>in my testing, a snack pack cup yields exactly one

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of pear juice after you have taken the fruit

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<v Speaker 1>out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question about pear juice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a big fan of but I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>is pear nectar that I get, which is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit thicker.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it's sweeter. So if you do that, I

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<v Speaker 1>would only do a half ounce, and I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would thin it a little bit with water, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can add a little extra lime juice, but it will

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<v Speaker 1>be more part so to this. So at this point

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<v Speaker 1>we have an ounce of pear juice, an ounce of

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<v Speaker 1>lime juice, a half ounce of simple syrup, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna add two ounces of your green tea infused

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<v Speaker 1>gin and just give it a really good hard shake.

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<v Speaker 1>You want it ice cold. This is one where when

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<v Speaker 1>I strained it into my glass, I used a mesh

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<v Speaker 1>strainer instead of a hawthorn strainer because it have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a foamy finish on top. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks pretty and smooth and it's delicious and

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<v Speaker 1>it smells really good. That foam tends to like retain

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<v Speaker 1>the depending on what gin you select, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>always is going to have its own flavors and profile

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<v Speaker 1>that have different herbal notes to it. So you get that,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the pear smell and that little bit of lime.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. It's an easy drink, so delicious. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>super sweet even with that little bit of simple in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Without the simple, it was too tart. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>version with no simple, and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually not balanced, So you do want to put just

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<v Speaker 1>a splash in there. So yummy, foolishly yummy. So this

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<v Speaker 1>one is really easy to do. Your mocktail version, you

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<v Speaker 1>were just either you can just make straight up green

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<v Speaker 1>tea if you want, but if you want it to

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<v Speaker 1>have that little bite so it kind of mimics a

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail a little bit more, you'll do the trick we've

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<v Speaker 1>done in the past where you let some tonic water

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<v Speaker 1>go flat and then infuse that with green tea. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a perfect sub in my opinion. It doesn't taste

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same, but it has a very similar feel

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<v Speaker 1>when you take a sip. So that is the Tyburn tree.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one where I wanted to use pear because

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<v Speaker 1>pair gets used all the time in autumn recipes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love it in autumn recipes, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that is the seasonality of pairs. But

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<v Speaker 1>we can have pairs whenever we want, thanks to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>modern agriculture and storage, and so I'm like, why not

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<v Speaker 1>put it in more spring and summer drinks because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so yummy. I love pear everything, and so this just

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<v Speaker 1>seemed exactly correct to me. So if you make the

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<v Speaker 1>Tyburn Tree, I hope you love it. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>am probably gonna go make another after we're done recording,

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<v Speaker 1>because I got two more ounces of gender use up where.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm really glad that you that you focused

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<v Speaker 2>in on the on the tree because we mentioned Tyburn

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but we never talk about Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>tree and the gallows and you know, just people go

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<v Speaker 2>there and they're hung is as basically as much as

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<v Speaker 2>we've ever talked about. So it was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>nice detail to add, and I'm so glad that you

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<v Speaker 2>focused on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the other options were not great in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't want to make a

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<v Speaker 1>drink inspired by someone being chopped pieces that's that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible if you if you had come out with like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's my red drink, and I'm like, I'm out, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I'm laughing after this horrible episode. But we

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<v Speaker 2>need if I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, yeah, you need a tyburn tree is what

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<v Speaker 1>you need. That'll just smooth it right out. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>if you make this drink that you love it as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I do. I was kind of surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>how much I love it, because I do tend to

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<v Speaker 1>like things a little sweeter than this. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know something about it works. We will be right back

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<v Speaker 1>here next week with another tale of highway robbery and

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