1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Well well, well, 2 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Historians, thank you for tuning in. It is a 3 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Friday here as we record, and we are excited. We've 4 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: got some adventures lined up on the weekend. I'm ben, 5 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm no, and I'm gonna have moonshine on the Biou 6 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and moonshine on the Biou. That's all I got. And 7 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: we've got our super producer, Casey Pegroom. He's gonna have 8 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: moonshine on the Bhi on the moon China. Right, Okay, 9 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: so you're in the moonshine on the bioum right, absolutely. 10 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I love both those things. You're into the Shine, Yeah, 11 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: the Shine, the Bayou, the whole nine The whole nine 12 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: that's a rhyme, and that's Casey on the case the 13 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: rhyming edition. It's interesting because the the whole nine yards 14 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: has its own strange etymology. Right. I think it comes 15 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: from the Army, but I'm not. I'm not too sure. 16 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I'll look into it later. Football thing, No, No, I 17 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: told you about the yard line and our boss yeah, cool, 18 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: can tell it again. Mentioned. I don't know if we've 19 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: mentioned on it's really really great. So our our boss 20 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: who is who is a great, great guy, is name Connell. 21 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: And he was in a meeting with us one time 22 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: where he tried to make a sports reference and I 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: don't think he knows a ton of stuff about football 24 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: because he said, you know, we're on the nine yard 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: line or we're on the first yard line. And we 26 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: had to stop him and say, you know, that comparison 27 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: doesn't What do you think you're saying? You know what 28 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean? Because all it up, not everybody, not everybody 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: can be an expert at all things. However, one group 30 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: of people who continually get underestimated, and even these are 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: modern days, are bootleggers. And one of the strangest, most 32 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: ridiculous eras in American history was prohibition. This is a 33 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: perfect thing to talk about on a Friday. Oh man, totally, 34 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm drunk already. No, no, I'm not, but I am 35 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to some on the value. Yeah, it's true. Um, 36 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: so here's the thing we know. A prohibition was quick 37 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: cooking dirty alcohol is illegal boom to nineteen thirty three 38 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: temperance people said, you know, folks will vote for prohibition 39 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: as long as they can stagger to the polls. The 40 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Devil's nectar. What did you call, oh, Grandpa's leg medics, 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: Grandpa's Oh, Grandpa's leg medicine. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It was 42 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: for boating big time. But as we know, when you 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: tell people what they can't do, they're gonna find ways 44 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: to do it, and they're gonna find ways to get 45 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: the thing that they can't have. Uh, and it's just 46 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna keep going. And the people that procure this stuff 47 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: for them, this Grandpa's leg Medicine, Devil's Nectar, were called bootleggers, 48 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: and they had to employ some kind of crafty subterfuges 49 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: and tricks in order not to get caught by you know, 50 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: the crazy bug eyed cop dude from Boardwalk Empire. Remember him, No, no, no, 51 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: the other crazy the bug eyed cop guy, the cop 52 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: guy who was a true believer. He was a true believer. Um, 53 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: he really really wanted to stamp out anything that was 54 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: impure and and and ungodly, and to him, liquor represented 55 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: debauchery and chaos, a society coming apart at the seams. 56 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: So he's who I'm picturing is in charge of this 57 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: whole thing. Interesting, I've never I've never seen Boardwalk Empire 58 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: I am aware of it, though, and I'm very glad 59 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: that we did not live during the era of alcohol prohibition. 60 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Long time listeners, if you've checked out Boardwalk Empire, or 61 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: you've listened to older episode of our show, then you 62 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: are doubtlessly well aware of the strange hypocrisies that proliferated 63 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: in this country during the US Prohibition era. You're also 64 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: aware of the rampant corruption. You know, some gangsters like 65 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: al Capone made vast fortunes. This was a huge watershed 66 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: moment for organized crime. Here's something a lot of people 67 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: don't know that could be a good episode all its own. 68 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Remember earlier when I said these moonshiners get underestimated. This 69 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: is a fact that a lot of people don't know. 70 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: Prohibition led to NASCAR. NASCAR would not have existed without 71 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: prohibition because, like you said, no, they had to be crafty, 72 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: these bootleggers, and they had to be sneaky. So a 73 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: lot of the improvements they made to their vehicles led 74 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: to the growth of NASCAR. I did not know that, man, 75 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: and that is a fantastic subject for another episode. But 76 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: today we're talking about a different kind of and a 77 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: that they spearheaded these these crafty bootleggers as you call them, um. 78 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: And it's a two words, very simple idea, but pretty 79 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: damn genius. Cow shoes, cow shoes, cow shoes, two separate words. Yeah. 80 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: So these moonshine stills would be out in remote or 81 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: hidden areas in a holler, maybe by a creek, but 82 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: they would they would be in the woods, you know 83 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. There wouldn't necessarily even be like a 84 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: deer path. The only way that the authorities, the g 85 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: men and so on could track down these moonshiners once 86 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: they were physically following them in the woods was to 87 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: find their footprints or do some you know, do some 88 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: boy scout path searching right, look for broken branches, look 89 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: for trampled grass, cracked leaves, things like that, and depending 90 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: on the train, you might get a footprint. So the 91 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: bootleggers said, look, we're gonna have to leave some kind 92 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: of prints as we walk in and out of here, 93 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: But why does it have to be a human footprint? 94 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: Right right? Indeed, and real quick, I just want to 95 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: point out that you can buy yourself your very own 96 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: five gallon moonshine still from Moonshine Still dot com. Um 97 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: and the five gallon unit is three seventy nine dollars. 98 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: And I love the look of these things. They look 99 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: like a cool like wizard chemistry set with like a 100 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: big boiler and then like a little dome that comes 101 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: off the top and then like kind of a swan, 102 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: like a little tube that then drip drip drips down 103 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: into the collection um receptacle. And that's how they make 104 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: the moonshine um pretty cool. Um. So, yeah, they would 105 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: have these out in sheds in the woods are like 106 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: just out you know, like in hidden in a glen 107 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: or something like that. But yeah, they needed to get 108 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: to and from there without leaving a trail, and that's 109 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: exactly what they did. Ben they would attach these uh 110 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: these cow um what do you call them? Well, you know, yeah, 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I was about to say horseshoes for cows. The cow shoes. Yeah, 112 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: that's literally what you know what you call them a 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: you uh, And they would attach them to their human 114 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: shoes and these would look like hoofprints or that was 115 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: the thought that someone would be searching through the woods, 116 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: maybe they catch part of a trail and then they 117 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: would look down and they would say, hang on, this 118 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: was just some cow walking in the woods or some 119 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: sort of hoofed creature. The idea most likely came from literature. 120 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: It came from a Sherlock Holmes story where a bad 121 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: guy and one of the stories, attaches fake cow hoofs 122 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: to the feet of his horse to avoid detections. Spoiler alert, Ben, 123 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: you just spoiled Sherlock Holmes. Yeah, I spoiled the whole thing. 124 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: It's over. It's okay. I think Sherlock Holmes stories are 125 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: past the statute of limitations with spoilers. Also, that had 126 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: Girland post story totally a monkey with a razor the 127 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: murders in the room or yeah, that's the one monkey 128 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: with a razor. So the Sherlock Holmes story specifically was 129 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: called The Adventure of the Priory School, which I have 130 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: not read, but spoilers three two and here be spoilers. 131 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: The plot involves a mystery surrounding a young student who 132 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: disappears along with his teacher, and Sherlock Holmes discovers that 133 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the murder culprit made his horses where fake cow hooves. 134 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: So that's the first time it exists in literature. But 135 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: what was it in real life? Pretty simple, They weren't 136 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: actual cow hooves. They were wooden blocks that have been 137 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: carved to look like the hooves, right, and then attached 138 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: to a metal strip and then strapped to a human foot. 139 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: There was an example of the shoe found near Port 140 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: Tampa and sent to the Prohibition Department in Washington. And 141 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: that's how the FEDS learned about this. So it was 142 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: a real thing. It actually happened. It also was described 143 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: in a couple of other things right in some newspapers. Absolutely, 144 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: it was ben in a nineteen two article from the St. Petersburg, 145 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Florida paper known as The Evening Independence is no longer 146 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: a thing. They discribed this technique as such. A new 147 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: method of evading prohibition agents was revealed here today by A. L. 148 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Allen's the account of them drifting into the mid Atlantic accent. 149 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: It's Florida, though, but it's fine. It's still fun for 150 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: reading this kind of old copy. Uh. A. L. Allen, 151 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: stay Prohibition enforcement director, who displayed what he called a 152 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: cow shoe as the latest thing from the haunts of 153 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: moonshin has. That's from the Evening Independent. So the discovery 154 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: of this astonishing cow shoe technology did not necessarily mean 155 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 1: the end of moonshining and bootlegging because people liked to drink. Nowadays, 156 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: it's weird as so many hipster restaurants and so many 157 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: of my hips her friends, to be honest, get have 158 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: gotten into creating or distilling moonshine. And it's been in 159 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: my family for a long long time. Right. We actually 160 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: do have some old moonshine stills that I wouldn't touch, oh, 161 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: EI think they'd be like they have a taint. They'd 162 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: be tainted with just age and rust and crust. I 163 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: don't know if it's up to health code standards. Yeah, 164 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: and and and we we we mentioned it briefly, but 165 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: that was the thing about prohibition period and these skills 166 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: is there was no health standard and a lot of 167 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: people died because they would use too much of a 168 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: certain ingredient or like there was too much ethanol in 169 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: the product and it would literally kill them. Not to 170 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: mention we do we do it on this show or 171 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: was that that? Don't want you to know? But the 172 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: government actually uh and intervened to try to um to 173 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: try to basically poison people who were illegally imbibing these products. 174 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Right then, Yeah, we did an episode on this, so 175 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: long story short, Uncle Sam during prohibition decided to deliberately 176 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: poison industrial alcohol which was being stolen and used to 177 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: make bootlegs stuff, and this led to the death of 178 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: more than ten thousand people in the US. And when 179 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: prohibition was finally repealed in nineteen thirty three, a lot 180 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: of he says said, you know what, We're gonna stay dry. 181 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: What's the what's the whiskey? Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels is 182 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: made in a dry county. Still, that's so funny. I 183 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: was just talking. I was in Tennessee over the last 184 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: few days in Nashville. Um, And first of all, the 185 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: tenant the Nashville Airport is basically like a liquor store, 186 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: like all of the gift shops just sell all of 187 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: the different types of tennants. Of course, yeah, I'm not 188 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: talking to you, Ben, I'm talking to the people. But 189 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: somebody told me they took the tour of the Jack 190 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Daniels distillery and they weren't able to You're not able 191 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: to buy any any liquor there at the Jack Daniels tour. 192 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: It's true, it's crazy. We also see the effects of 193 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: this sort of prohibition today. There was research conducted by 194 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: economists at the University of Louisville in Kentucky, and they 195 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: found that meth lab seizures in Kentucky are significantly more 196 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: likely to occur in dry counties. Surprised, right, I'm just saying, 197 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you you you'd tell people what they 198 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: can't have. They're gonna have it one way or another. Um, 199 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: whether it be an alcohol form or in meth form, 200 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: or crocodile or like jankum, that's not my jam. No, 201 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: it's not. You're not my jake. Definitely it's not. Look 202 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: it up, folks, if you want to be totally totally 203 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: grossed out, we consider it not safe for work. Always, 204 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: absolutely not safe for work. Like all works of genius, 205 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: the cow shoes were not restricted to a single use 206 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: or single application. It turns out that someone else would 207 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: come up with the cow shoe idea decades beforehands very true. 208 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: It was in the ninet twenties in the town of Elko, Nevada, Nevada. 209 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Which way am I supposed to say? So? People outside 210 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: of Nevada say Nevada, people inside Nevada say Nevada. So 211 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: what should I say? I'm outside of it. I don't know, man, 212 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: You gotta bring that Vegas with you. No, man, I'm 213 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: gonna say that. How I say it? Nevada? Yeah, co Nevada. Uh. 214 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: There was some really odd goings on that were documented 215 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: in the ninet twenties. You see, for a couple of months, 216 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: some cows from a place called the Utah Construction Company ranch. Wait, 217 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: why is the why is there a U Tak Instruction 218 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: company in Nevada? We'll never know. Um, they were disappearing, Ben, 219 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: they were disappearing. And you know Nevada is lousy with 220 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: UFO abductions, and then UFO alien types love cow situations. 221 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: They love like mangling cows. Was it aliens? Ben? What 222 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: was it? Well? It may have been aliens in some instances, 223 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: but at least one instance, it was a guy who 224 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: maybe had read a Sherlock Holmes story or two and 225 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: decided to build himself some cow shoes. A few of 226 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: the cowboys on the ranch followed a mysterious trail of hoofprints, 227 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: and then they came across their missing cattle being led 228 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: away by a notorious troublemaker named j R. Crazy Chicks Hazelwood. 229 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I think he's got one 230 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: of those sort of wish living varih who I love 231 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: that is he kind of shis whistle when he talks black. 232 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy chicks. Yeah. So the ranchers apprehended crazy text 233 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: and then they saw he was wearing cow shoes. He 234 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: had two boards mounted on top of two real cow 235 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: hooves each and according to Howard Hickson, local historian, there, 236 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Texts had no regrets. He bragged about how he had 237 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: learned to walk like a cow, like the gate of 238 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: the Cow. It wasn't good enough just to have the shoes. Uh. 239 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: And now those shoes, his cow shoes, are on display 240 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: today at the Northeastern Nevada Museum. I have not been 241 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: to that one. No, no, I have. My My current 242 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: goal for Nevada travel wise is to spend some time 243 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: at the Hoover dam You know, I always remember when 244 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: I think about the Hoover Damn that's seen in bibs 245 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: and but had to America where Bevis is like, is 246 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: it a goddamn sorry, I don't remember. Remember that move 247 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: doesn't hold up. It's not very funny. It didn't age well, 248 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't think. So there's a cool part where they 249 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: end up taking some sort of psychedelic hallucinogen in the 250 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: in the desert, and then it all turns into like 251 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: rob zombie animations and it's it's pretty psychedelic and cool. 252 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: I gotta say, Ben Howard Hickson great name for a 253 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: local historian, wouldn't you agree? Yeah, Yeah, he's the guy 254 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: that that was part of this whole, this whole situation here. Um. 255 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that prohibition era huckster's 256 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: would do to evade the authorities. This is the weirdest 257 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: on This is a weird one. Yeah, it's about a 258 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: bad sandwich. Yeah, I don't understand this. Okay. So, because 259 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: of the way exercise laws worked in in New York 260 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: State at the time, in like the end of the 261 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, if you went out for a drink, you 262 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: would have a very strange experience. Let's say you go 263 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: out your your casey pegrum out on the town, New York, 264 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: eighteen nineties. You go to your local bar and you say, 265 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'll have. I'll have a beer or 266 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: I'll have you know, whiskey on the rocks or something. 267 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: The waiter bartender would bring you the drink, but they 268 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: would bring it out with a sandwich and the sandwich 269 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: was horrible. Yeah, there were a couple variations of it. 270 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: It was it was more than just horrible. It was 271 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: it was inadible, um. And you know, speaking in broad terms, um, 272 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: it was quote an old desiccated ruin of this is 273 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: great writing of dust laden bread and mummified ham or cheese. 274 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: And that is from the mouth, the mind, the pen 275 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: of the brilliant playwright Eugene O'Neill. That was one variation 276 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: of it. Another variation was it was just made of rubber. Yeah, 277 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: that's gross, right, You're the thing is, you're not supposed 278 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: to eat the sandwich. They would take that, They would 279 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: bring the sandwich out to you, and then seconds later 280 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: they would take it back. It was the same sandwich. 281 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: It was just the sandwich was making the round in 282 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: the restaurant. Or it was an excuse for what serving booze. 283 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, very very creative. A lot of 284 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: this again, this involves a lot of innovation and creativity 285 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: and that is no excuse, um. And you know, the 286 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: owners of these establishments argued that this wasn't breaking the law. Right. 287 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: The strange ritual was a result of the Rains law, 288 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: which was described in Atlas Obscure as a combination of 289 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: good intentions, unstated prejudices, and unforeseen consequences. So the Rains 290 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: law was meant to get rid of dive bars. It 291 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: raised the cost of a liquor licensed the eight hundred 292 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: bucks three times would have been before. It said, you know, 293 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: you can't be open within two hundred feet of a 294 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: school or a church. You can't have a free lunch, 295 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: which was a thing that bars used to do this. 296 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: I had never heard of it either. I don't think 297 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: it was a great lunch, but you could go somewhere 298 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: than a rain sandwich though, right, Yes, it goes to 299 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: what they called it. Yeah, you would get cheese, soda, bread, 300 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: and raw onions for free. Yikes. Yeah, well, I guess 301 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: they do kind of do, like free peanuts and gummy 302 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: bears in certain bars in some places. I love the snacks. 303 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Any situation, I'm down to snack. Uh. And the law 304 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: also attacked drinking on Sundays, are being open on Sundays. 305 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: But here's what happened. You see, the law had a loophole, 306 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and then there was a loophole within that loophole. The 307 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: first one is this the law, the way these laws 308 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: were written allowed lodging houses with ten rooms or more 309 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: to serve guests drinks with meals seven days a week. 310 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: And then incidentally, wealthy New Yorkers would just dine out 311 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: at a ritzy hotel because that's a lodging house so 312 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: they can serve drinks seven days a week. And honestly, 313 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean that the little loopholes like that still kind 314 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: of exist today. Uh. And you know the bars that 315 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: we go to here in Atlanta, like more often than not, 316 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: they want to serve food, even if it's not a 317 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: big part of their income. Right, it's important to them 318 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: to be able to serve food because it allows them 319 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: to be open earlier. I want to say, or that 320 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: maybe you know the law better than me, but there's 321 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: definitely a reason that it's beneficial to a business that 322 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: serves alcohol to also serve food. I think it means 323 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: that the events don't have to be twenty one and up, 324 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Like if you're having concerts or whatever that might be 325 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: part of it, you can I think you can do 326 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: eighteen and up events if they serve food. I can't 327 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: remember what city I was in, it was somewhere in 328 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of a dodgy bar and I was trying to 329 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: figure out if they have food, and they had hot dogs, 330 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: but the person who is selling them was like, donate those. 331 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: We just keep those so we could say we have food. 332 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: And I ran in and maybe it was a real 333 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: life rain sandwich. Here's how the loophole worked. Here's how 334 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: we got this terrible sandwich. You can't sell booze on Sunday. 335 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: The rains law doesn't want you to, but that is 336 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: one of the most profitable days for a lot of people. 337 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Here's what the downtown bar owners did. They founded private 338 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: clubs and then they started handing out membership cards to 339 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: their regulars. It's sort of like if our local bar 340 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: the local and a birth of creativity is right, that's 341 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: still so it's hilarious what we say it on air 342 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: like that. But if they had to, if they had 343 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: to confront this kind of law, then they might very 344 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: well turn into a club, hand out membership cards and 345 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: so on. These people also converted basements and addic spaces 346 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: into rooms like hotel rooms, and then they said, okay, 347 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: we count as a lodging house. Will throw table cloths 348 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: over the pool tables. That makes us kind of a restaurant. 349 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: And because the law says, if you're a lodging house 350 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: with ten or more rooms, you can serve guests drinks 351 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: with food seven days a week, they had to pick 352 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: something they could use that would count as food. Yeah, 353 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: and I guess you could argue it's debatable whether this, uh, 354 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: this disgusting sandwich could be I don't know. You would 355 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: you would think that the law could come down on 356 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: them and say, guys, this is in fact inedible. Uh, 357 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: this does not qualify as food. Um. Yeah, it's it's 358 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: like your hot dog story, right right, here's the here's 359 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: the quote. Because I love where you're going with this. 360 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Law enforcement itself bought this. An assistant d A in 361 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: Brooklyn said the following to a group of police captains 362 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: as the first of these rains hotels started hitting the scene. 363 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: He said, well, I would not say that cracker as 364 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: a complete meal in itself, but our sand which is 365 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: how much did they pay him? They paid him something? Yeah, 366 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: it's that sandwich, sweet sweet sandwich money. Um No, I 367 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: don't know, man. This is very interesting stuff. It's all 368 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: about the little clever tricks, whether it's to disguise something 369 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: like a footprint, or that's to skirt the law in 370 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: some way, and we still again, we still see the 371 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: kind of legacy of this playing out into in today's 372 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: today's did this on modern world? Now? Of course it's 373 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: tempting to say, Wow, what a crazy story, what a 374 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: strange period in US history. But as William Folker said, 375 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: the past is not over. The past is not even past. 376 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: The Prohibition Party, your ridiculous historians, is still in play today. 377 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: It's still a thing. It's true. It is the oldest 378 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: third party in America. Uh, the next gold that would 379 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: be the Green Party. No, that's not true. I don't 380 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: know what the next old this would be. I did 381 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: not even know this was considered a party. But yeah, 382 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: it's on the ballot and at least three states. You 383 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: think we would have a more precise number of that. 384 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Is it three? Is it at least three? Is it 385 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: more than three? H you tell me, I don't know, Ben, 386 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: Oh well, whatever, somebody says it's a ballot in at 387 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: least three states, it means that it might be an 388 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: additional ones in the future. There you go. That makes sense. Um, 389 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: So here is how this works. It's never gotten more 390 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: than two point two percent of the popular vote. But there. 391 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: It is just the same. Um. It's shown up on 392 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: presidential ballot since eighteen seventy two every time, and it 393 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: has had some kind of spotlight e type moments, right 394 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: like during the nineteen twenty alcohol band Prohibition right, the 395 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: titular alcohol band of the party, the Prohibition Party, um, 396 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: and that was really it's time to shine. Yeah. And 397 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: it's strange when you think that the party is still 398 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: extant and it is still so focused on a single issue, right, 399 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: one thing that's really awesome. Although prohibitionists and not I 400 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: clearly do not see eyed eye on a great many things. 401 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: I found it inspiring and really cool that in nineteen 402 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: twenty four the Prohibition Party became the first political party 403 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: in this country to put a woman on the presidential 404 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: ballot when they named Marie C. Brem as their vice 405 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: presidential candidate. Very interesting, like oddly forward thinking, but like 406 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: at the same time she was probably a monster. I 407 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, come on for them to have 408 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: like pushed her forth, it's just me completely editorializing. But like, 409 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, like again I'm gonna go back to my 410 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Prohibition uh detective in um, you know, played by Michael 411 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Shannon in Boardwalk Empire. The the whole thing with the 412 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: Prohibition Party, and that movement is temperance, and that is 413 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: all tied to religious zelotry. Right, So a lot of times, 414 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be like you know, you have to 415 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: be the craziest religious zella to be pushed forth as 416 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: the president of this That's that's what I'm getting at. 417 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: You know, not to say that all religious people are 418 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: monsters or anything. I just think this type of puritanical 419 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: zealotry tends to yield troubling results. You know, we understand 420 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: that alcoholism can be a serious and very threatening problem. 421 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: That being said, I love prohibition propaganda, like the cartoons. 422 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: They're amazing. I wish they were more like this. You 423 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: know what, if I ever own a bar, I'm just 424 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: gonna decorate it with prohibition pictures. Give me some examples, sure, sure. 425 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Uh There's there's this famous one where there were a 426 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: bunch of very angry people, uh, staying around a sign 427 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: that says lips that touch liquors shall not touch ours. 428 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: There are things saying which gets your vote, mother or 429 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: the saloon vote. Dry asked the first ten mothers you 430 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: meet if they would vote for the saloon and govern 431 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: yourself accordingly, and then you have just some like outright 432 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, fearmongering things aren't even clever. Like beer doubled 433 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: the child death rate in the first five years of life. 434 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Children of sober parents died children of beer drinkers percent died. Alcohol, 435 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: whether in beer or in whiskey, is an enemy of 436 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: child life. That was the thing. Yeah, you'll see pictures 437 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: where it's the bar room or the boy your vote 438 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: may settle it. And there's a guy drunk outside of 439 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: like a western looking saloon, and there's a little kid 440 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: standing on the porch with him, going, is that you daddy? 441 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty sad. You got another one here where 442 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: it's a cartoon. This is a pretty clever one. Um. 443 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: It's a cartoon of like a dude and kind of 444 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: like a hounds tooth suit. But he's not a regular 445 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: old dude. His head is a globe. It is the world, 446 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: and it's being enveloped by something called the liquor octopus, 447 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: which is as you would imagine a cartoonish octopus that 448 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: has words printed on it. Uh in the you know, 449 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: in the style of political cartoons, and every tentacle is 450 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: a different vice. Right, We've got without vice, but it's 451 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: a different outcome. We've got poverty on one tentacle, crime, disease, debauchery, 452 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: and waste. And then at the bottom there's like a 453 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: log or something that he's supposed to sit on. It 454 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: says American anti saloon methods. That's where this came from. 455 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: I think the last example a'll site is the propaganda 456 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: poster that just it's kind of simple. It looks like 457 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: it might be from a different time. They claims there 458 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: are six bad things that alcohol can cause, adultery, drunks, violence, 459 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: illness centers, and atheist gasp. I like the idea that 460 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: somebody is going to have a beer and then instantly 461 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: go there's no God, There's no God. How bad was 462 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: that beer? Was it like a was it like a Michelobe? 463 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: Must have been ultra? What's the worst beer? Ben? I 464 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I haven't drank every beer. 465 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: I know. I'm kind of a philistine in this regard. 466 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm not a beer guy either. You know, what I 467 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: can say is a great beer? No, No, what's the 468 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: worst beer? I don't know what the worst beer is? 469 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: A good beer is Miller Lite it's so good, in fact, 470 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: that you can drink it with your mouth. Brought to 471 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: you by Miller Lion. That's true. That campaign was from 472 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: years ago. Ben still getting residuals Now, that is a 473 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: good line. And I swear to god they if they 474 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: haven't just like lifted that from you and used that 475 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: in their advertising materials, that's I guess I'm like an 476 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: old man advertising material. Um, then they are missing the boat. Dude. 477 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm more of a whiskey guy. But you know, 478 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I am divorced. It's certainly possible 479 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: that alcohol lead to directly or indirectly to my divorce. 480 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: I can neither confirm nor deny that. Um, I do 481 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: have a job. I pay my way. I am I 482 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: a sinner. I don't know. I'm not a saint. Are 483 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: you debauched from time to time? I don't know if 484 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm wholly debauched. So I think we have our debauched moments. 485 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: Check out my Instagram stories. You can follow me how 486 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: now Noel Brown on the Graham and you can follow 487 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: me at Ben Bowling. As you get kicked into and 488 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: out of various uh events, bars, restaurants, countries, there's always something, saloons, saloons, speakeasies, yeah, 489 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff. If you want to join our community group, 490 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: this is a very organic transition to the outure this time. Man, 491 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. If you want to join our 492 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: community on the Facebook, you can do so. We are 493 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: ridiculous historians. Just search for that group and name one 494 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: or both or all three of us or just us 495 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: say a joke that let's just know that you're you're, 496 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: you're cool, and we'll let you write. If it's a 497 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: good pun, I'm gonna just green light it all day. 498 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: We would also like to thank, as always, our super producer, 499 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: Casey Pegram, our research associates Ryan Barish and Gabe Lousia. 500 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Alex Williams, who composed our theme, also gets a hefty thanks. Um. 501 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: We'd like to thank Christopher Aciota is here in spirit. 502 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: There's a Christopher shape whole and all of our hearts 503 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: that we hope to fill very soon thanks to the quister. 504 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: I miss him. We need to bring it back in 505 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah he's okay. I'm warming up to the idea. 506 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: When he's gone for a while, sort of absence makes 507 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: the heart grow fonder and all that that's kind of 508 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: how I feel. But yeah, we should definitely have him 509 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: in so I can go back to hating him with 510 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: a fire deep inside me. Tell us and your fellow 511 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: listeners your favorite weird prohibition stories. Do you have uh 512 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: personal family connection to prohibition? To bootleg into moonshining A 513 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: lot of people in Appalachia do. Yeah. You can write 514 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: to us a ridiculous at I heart radio dot com. 515 00:29:51,960 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 516 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen 517 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.