WEBVTT - Ep. 39: Bear Grease [Render] - Sky Busting, Gadwalls, and a Dying Forest 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:17.080 Yeah. My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.680 of the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.200 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:44.880 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. Um, hey, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.559 before we get started here, if you don't mind, I'm 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:56.320 gonna change my boot in your I feel like I 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.600 should go change. I feel under dressed. So I'm Brent. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:04.280 Why don't you describe what I'm putting on here? I'm speachless. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.560 Clay has pulled out a pair of gray crocs official 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.479 Crocs because I can see the alligator on the side, 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.560 and he has them in work mode. They are four 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:18.480 wheel drive and they match his puffy jacket. They do 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:23.280 match my gray puffy jacket and quite the ensemble. Now, 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.120 wait a minute, are we do I need to hook 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.560 money in? Are we going to fight for this? I 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.560 would hook him in four wheel drive? Here we go. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.640 I just after last render, when you know, kind of 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.840 dogged on the crocs and my kids bought these for 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.560 me for Christmas, so they are they're highly convenient, the 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:43.760 gift that keeps on giving a waterproof jelly. The man 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.640 they are, especially when you're duck hunting, because I was 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.040 this week. If you listen to the podcast, you heard 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.280 me say that I have a goal to see how 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.280 long I can be a water fowler, which I'm a 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.520 new water fowler. How long I can be a water 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.280 fowler and not actually own my own pair of waiters, 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.320 some borrowing waiters. But it's come back to bite me 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.920 when Sean Weaver is the guy you're barring him from 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.080 because he duck hunts, you know, hundred days a year 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.480 or whatever. And uh, the waiters that he let me 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:15.000 borrow had a whole I learned that you can take 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.639 crux with you so you can stay in the waiters 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.240 the least amount of time possible. Let's let's talk about 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.440 another thing, and that is that you were complaining about 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.519 how they made your figure look. You're like, oh my gosh, 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.160 I look huge in these. It's a true story, he did. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.880 They were giant. Looked big on camera. Yeah, they're giant. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.160 They were, Brent. I mean they were like eighteen inches 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.960 wide at the knees. Well, I heard slim fit waiter. Okay, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.640 makes you look like ten pounds tremor. I'm really just 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.560 looking forward to see a first light offers like a 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.720 modern cut. I'll tell you what, Clay, I started off 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.080 the season with six pairs of waiters and we're down. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.239 We're whittled down to two. Wow, it's pretty rough. He 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.440 fly fishing waiters as what he's using. Yeah, I feel 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.960 sorry for him because I think those are leaking. Now. Well, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.519 those big waiters you gave me, they looked pretty good. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.800 But listen to this hot tip, Austin. I'm gonna introduce 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.480 everybody here in just a minute. Hot tip. These waiters 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.800 were like soaked in the left foot and we hunted 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.200 the day before and it's cold, and I mean it 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.400 took me four hours to get warm once I got home. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.200 It was it was I was chilling cold. I think 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.200 it's play some coffee to warm him up while we 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.440 were hunting. Yeah, it worked. What I did the next 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.680 day because they didn't dry out, is I put a 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.440 ziplock bag over my foot. It worked. Great. You done 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.960 that before. I carry a roll of trash bag really yeah, Lea. 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.880 And the great thing about the trash bag is you 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:46.360 can tie it off the ankle, shin the knee, crotch, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.840 and I've gone that out with him. Like, what's the 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.080 old thing you used to do with the pillowcases? Put 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.880 them around your feet when you're a little kid, hop 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:58.119 around like a potato. Yeah, yeah, have you ever done 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.880 that with like two legs? And the waiters and oh man, waiters, 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.160 waiters a whole another story. Hey, once again, we have 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.800 to we have like legitimate guests on the render all over. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.960 Brent and I are the only ones that are the 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.800 regulars here, the curmudgeons. Yeah, so Brent, we're gonna have 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.920 to really behave beyond our best game because we have 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.200 I'm gonna go left to right to our left Max 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.279 barta of meat eater. Max is Uh. Probably should introduce 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:30.839 Sean first because Max works with Sean right right hand man, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.440 but you're left handed. Is that a slight to him? 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:40.160 Keep moving? Um? Max is Uh photographer, producer, waterfowl hunter, 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:46.320 twenty five years old, paternal twin um, and he eats 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.120 a lot. He's trim man though, eats a lot. But 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.240 read on his Instagram profile handle he can make he 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.599 can make friends with the two before. And it's true, 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:02.200 It's true. Thank you for having me Burger's Render. Max Barta. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.159 Max Barta sounds like a future president. It's a good name. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.320 That's funny you bring that about that yet, But maybe 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.040 it's funny you bring that up because every time, every 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.000 time we roll into a new group of people, we're 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.480 trying to do something, trying to get somewhere and get 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.720 something accomplished. Max slows us down. And I always say, 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.640 don't worry. Max is just running for president. That's right, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.880 because I'm just talking to people, getting you know, him nice, 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.720 trying to make him smile. You should say, for for 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.880 for the record here, I'm Max Parta and I endorse 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.920 this message. Yeah, okay, I'll say my name is Max 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:47.640 Parta and I endorse this message. Representative Left Sean Wever 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.960 of Meter Sean you you're you're an old pro on 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.400 Burgers have not been on the render though, Nope, not 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.520 been on the render. Sean drove. He drove to my 0:05:56.560 --> 0:06:00.920 house from Missouri. He was on his well, no, no, no, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.960 it was far for him because he drove from Utah 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.240 to Missouri and then down to my house late one 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:11.360 night to record those that session that we did. So 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.560 that was a night, but it was worth it. It 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.279 ended up being worth it for you. I mean it 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.839 was you did really good. And so Sean works for 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.320 meat either you you've worked for Meat Eater for less 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.880 than less than a year. Yeah, but we are currently 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.120 actually this is our last duck Hunt of the season, 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.680 putting the final touches on the new show duck Lore. Yeah, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.760 she'll be part of the Meat Eater network. You can 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.520 we tell people how many shows there are? Is that 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:43.320 a secret? The first season will be six episodes, and 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.960 we're also filming the second season in the same year, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.839 which will be six episodes, so they're twelve episodes. Twelve episodes, 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.800 and we can we can say that that's what that's 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.920 why we're here right now. That's why we will later 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:00.719 disclose where we're at. Not yet though. All all Austin 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:05.400 all entertainment is is just drama, drama and hooks. Okay, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.000 so you you you have a little drama like this 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.560 is a secret location and then you but you tell 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.800 them you're gonna tell it later. So we'll tell you 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.800 where we're at later. Later, I meaning like when do 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:22.240 we get to our next guest. No, it's great to 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:23.920 have you shot. It's been awesome. Hunting with you. We're 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.440 gonna talk to more about about our hunting to your 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.920 left and Marie d Ramos and Marie. Great to see you, Clay, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:32.920 thank you for having me. Glad to be here. So 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.840 Anne Marie is a commissioner and this is the reason 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.720 we have to be on our best behavior, you two 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:42.360 as well. Commissioner of a little organization they called the 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.680 Arkansas Game and Fish Commission. And so we've been here, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.440 Sean and I and Max have been here hunting with 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.080 Anne Marie for the last four days, five days, and uh, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.880 she's been hosting our team here at kind of the family, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.200 the Family Duck Club, which has been super fun. Great 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.040 to have you, hey, glad to be here. We've had 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.840 a great time the past few days, got our fair 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.840 share of hunts in um got you on your very 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.240 first god Wall shoot, which bravo. We're glad that you 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:15.760 finally moved away from the Millard. Yeah. Yeah, although she 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.040 shooting mallards is a lot of fun, I will say that. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.440 But yeah, we did have a good shoot on the 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.040 first day, had a great hunt second day. And uh, anyway, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.200 I think we're going to get out there in the 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.720 morning to before you guys head out. Yeah, we'll talk 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.280 more about our We'll talk more about our hunt. How 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.680 long you've been a commissioner, Emory, This is my third year, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.040 so it's a seven year term. It is seven year 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.640 term into seven year term, that's right. And I served 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.079 with six other commissioners from around the state. Yeah, and 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.880 one non voting commissioner who is always the head of 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.920 the Biology and Zoology Department for the University of Arkansas, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.240 doctor Stephen Bouprey. Got to get him a shout out 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.040 snake man and try he is snake man. Yeah, snake man. Um, 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:58.440 tell me describe how the commission works, like, do most 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.800 states have a pointed commission? Do we know that? In 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.480 your next The next guest I'm gonna introduce is Austin Booth, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.760 the director of the Game's Fish most states, but that 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.559 is a secret. I'm not gonna tell you that until later. Well, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.679 I couldn't tell you exactly the number, but I do know. Uh, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.559 there's many states were actually, So let me go back 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.080 to what the commission does. Essentially, where a governing body 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:25.040 who oversees the rules and regulation for all fish and 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.960 wildlife in the state of Arkansas. So a lot of 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.520 responsibility on our shoulders. And in other states. I do 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.520 know that some are still their rules and regulations are 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.360 controlled by the legislature, correct Austin. But for the most part, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.360 each state has their fish and wildlife agencies who determine that. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:48.320 And so tell me, tell me what what would you say? 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.040 Your main job is as a commissioner hearing, hearing from 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.440 the public, listening to the public, balancing science and public 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.120 opinion in order to make the best decisions possible for 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.880 our sportsmen and women throughout the state to Arkansas, but 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:05.400 primarily making regulations. Yes, well, and uh more than that, 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.120 approving budget approvals. For instance, we just this last month 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.960 approved for a boat ramp to be put in down 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.280 in South Arkansas. So several of the things that we 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.800 do in regards to you know, not just fish and wildlife, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:24.079 but infrastructure throughout the state. Yeah, awesome. Um, who are 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:29.199 your favorite? Uh? I'm kidding, I can't favorite. I was 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.559 gonna ask some awkward questions, are you gonna were you 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.760 gonna ask who would be like my ideal dinner party 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.520 or something something like that. But I was gonna ask 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.559 who your other favorite commissioners were. But this was a 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:43.360 joke all of them. We have a really great group 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.920 of commissioners were we're all friends, we all work great together, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.680 and I feel really really lucky to to serve on 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.400 this panel with the group that we're that we have. Yeah, 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.560 you know, it is interesting. And I'm not an expert 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.440 on government, nor an expert on the way other state 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.480 agencies work, but there are there are government structure, state 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:09.000 government structures where the legislature votes for wildlife regulations and laws, okay, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.840 And so that to me is a problem because then 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.800 whether our dear season is this date to this date, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.000 or are bear season is this to this all of 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.240 a sudden becomes a literal political issue that you vote 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.520 on to the general public. And so people start to 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.960 run on campaigns about wildlife, just like the New Jersey 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.800 governor did when he said in a I mean it 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.559 was like a this is part of my campaign platform. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.800 Did he get rid of bear season? Yeah? He did. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.559 He said We're gonna shut down bear hunting in New 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.200 Jersey and he did it. And so because every and 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.000 I said this in the podcast, any type of government, 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.160 somebody's going to be have some reason why, you know, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.400 they don't like it. And I take it he had 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:59.440 never been bear hunting. Yeah, no, no, no point being 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.880 how being a commission seven people or eight people that 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.839 are making wildlife decisions, it's usually really good. I mean, 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.440 because these people are typically going to be people that 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.360 are involved in wildlife management. And I would rather entrust 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.600 that kind of stuff to seven people that have some 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.000 founding in the state rather than the general public. So 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.600 that's just my two bits on state government. Because my 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.120 buddies up in Michigan, so we worked pretty closely in 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.440 UH with Bear Hunting magazine, with the Wisconsin Bear Hunters 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.960 Association and the Michigan Bear Hunters Association. Super strong state 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.200 agencies that raise tons of money and basically they spend 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:43.920 their life fighting anti hunting legislation and and that is 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.080 and it's because they have that type of government that 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.640 and so anyway, it's just a fight. So love it. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.600 And one of the many things that we have going 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.359 for us in Arkansas is UH we have a great legislature. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:01.120 They strongly support the outdoors. They understand the economic benefit 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.640 to Arkansas that you know, tourism brings all the out 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.440 of state hunters coming here, out of state anglers. They 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.640 know their communities just as well as we do, and 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:16.200 they understand how in the natural state outdoors is is 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:20.800 just in our veins, and having a commission that makes 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:26.800 those decisions basically insulates us from outside political influence outside 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.920 the state coming into the state. And so it's not 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.840 so much that we have a problem with the legislature here, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.360 but it understood it kind of insulates us from out 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.640 of state influence. And uh, couldn't be happier with the 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.199 legislation that we have. I agree with that, Austin. Actually 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.760 there's several legislative legislators who are hunters and anglers too, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.080 but they're not proud of I was within this Afrinat 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.560 did you introduce that fund? Man? Hey, you you keep 0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:02.680 your chair, Butty, we we take twenty minutes on introductions. Okay, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:08.400 I'm not like you're not president yet. Okay, Okay, friendly reminder, 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.800 Max would do that. You're such a nice guy. Is 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.520 going to be left out. Wait till I get to 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.080 this guy to Anne Marie's left, Austin, both the director 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.400 of the Arkansas Games. You're like a regular of the burglaries. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.800 Now if regular means to then you're right. Good to 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.720 have you man, Great to have you now. If I 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.680 get crocs, will create from regular to emeritus. No place 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.920 to go. But I feel like I need to go 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:37.400 change into crocs. Well, I'm embarrassed. If my family was here, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.320 if my wife was here, I couldn't wear these. She 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.960 don't like Well, I might have to defend her and 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:47.640 you can't. She loves him, right, Yeah, you just look. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.840 I mean, if if let's say, something goes wrong between 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.280 me and Austin, you know, and we go fist to cuff, 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.200 he's gonna beat me to the ground because for a 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:03.600 couple of reasons. I'm gonna go ahead and say it 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.120 is the other reason the knuckle dragging marine, because I've 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.720 heard that before. You know, I'm pretty worry. But you know, Austin, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.280 you've been duck hunting a lot, though I have. You 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.640 have some good, good duck hunts. I've been on some 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.800 great hunts this year. Yeah, we've got a lot of 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.840 ducks in the state right now. It's here. Yes, Uh, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:26.200 we're loaded full with hunters, loaded full with ducks. Still 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:30.200 down for the long term average, but duck hunters or ducks, ducks, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.240 ducks compared to where we were last month, a whole 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.160 lot of ducks in the state right now. We just 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.440 learned we were Sean and I were in a boat 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.960 with Luke Naylor a couple of days ago, and he 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.320 was describing to us the aerial counting. Yes. I just 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.720 turned to Luke and I said, how many Mallard ducks 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.320 are in Arkansas right now? And he just spouted off. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.120 I think he said five and thirty thousand five I've 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.360 hunned thirty two thousand and then and I said, okay, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.560 how do you know that? And he described to us 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.320 how they how they bring a cauldron and an airplane 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.440 and they sprinkle like a weird concoction of of like 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:14.000 guard blood and anti freeze, and just like, no, I 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:19.480 don't know, Like, man, this is no there there. Can 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.080 you describe how they count those? Do you know? It was? 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.560 It was transsex where they fly random lines across the 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.800 delta and uh, they get a count on that line 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:34.800 and then extrapolate out over those different transsex over the 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.200 square mileage of the delta. How many ducks that would be? 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.080 That's amazing. And I asked him, I said, how how 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.600 confident are you in that number? And he may have 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.920 been joking, but he said, plus or minds a hundred fifty, 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.880 but I don't. I don't think he was joking. Maybe 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.680 he was, but he was Yeah. Yeah, so that's pretty amazing. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.920 Do other states do other states do? Like? Are we 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.200 doing weekly counts during duck season? No, we do a 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.920 handful throughout the season, but they're not weekly. Um and 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.760 uh no, it's based on the splits. But there are 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.800 other states that do them. But obviously this is Arkansas. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.359 We do it. We do it best for sure. It's uh, 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:23.399 entirely based on places that are kind of epicenters. Right 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:28.280 state would the Illinois the Illinois River Valley, I believe 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.040 it gets flown every week. Um, the Missouri River in 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:36.520 South Dakota gets from North Dakota week Dakota as well weekly. Um, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.199 just kind of depends where you're at. But places that 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.480 are I guess historic migration routes and also epicenters of 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.280 water Fowler's typically get flown. Yeah, that's that's really neat. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.120 To Austin's left, Brent reeves chick one and Neel like, good, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.199 good to have you brand. So Brent drove down from 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.280 where he lives. So we are I haven't said where. 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.520 I did say where we're at. We're in we're in 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.000 Southeast Arkansas, and of Delta. I said we were at 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.280 Amrie's family duck camp, which is true, but that is 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:09.600 located in southeast Arkansas near Stuttguard. Yeah, stuck Guard, the 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.960 duck capital of the world. Stuttgard close to where actually 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.200 Brent used to used to hunt quite a minute just 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.359 up the road. Yeah. Yeah, so you hunted ten fifteen 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.000 miles from stutt Guard. Oh no, red ailes from here 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.760 is probably what is it eight miles? Man miles? Yeah, yeah, 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.919 not far hunting the same ducks, it looks I'm a 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.679 question for Brent, just so I can have a baseline 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.840 for your formal attire. You're wearing crocs this time. The 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.600 last render, you had a zip tie on your overalls. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.760 Have you upgraded to a button? The button? This is 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.040 a button. I was wearing those yesterday and I thought, Man, 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:52.320 I'm glad they didn't come out in the rotation tomorrow. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.080 Do you have to cut off the zip tie every time? Oh? No, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.440 it's all the side, Okay, gotcha, Yeah, no, it's zip time. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.160 We were talking the other day a friend of mine. 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:02.800 I don't know if I said this in the last 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.480 render or not, but a friend of mine who I 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:10.680 met during bear bating season last year. Corey Eisenhower brought 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.159 me a mess of squirrels and I was talking to 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.520 him on the phone. I hang up the phone and 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.760 Alexis says, what what were you saying? I said, well, 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.719 my friend Corey is gonna bring me some some squirrels. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.240 She said, did you say he was gonna bring you 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.880 a mess of squirrels? My wife from Texas? I said, yeah, 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.199 my friend Corey is bringing me a mess of squirrel 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.639 She said, I swear, It's like I've been living on 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.240 an eleven year episode of he Hall with no commercial. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.320 Sometimes she wonders how she got to where she's at. 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.200 Every time I see her, I wonder how she got 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.320 because she's such a wonderful woman. She has a taste 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:50.439 for roughness. Oh my goodness, Sean, walk us through our 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.040 our waterfowl hunts and let let me say, let me 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.480 just tell people, I have been immersed into the Arkansas 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.320 waterfowl world for the last a month and a half, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.359 more than any time in my entire life. Okay, I've 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:13.920 quickly become very opinionated, very informed, very knowledgeable, and like 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:19.240 all my other waterfowl friends, pretty much know what to do, 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:27.480 very good duck color at the best. No, no, I have. Um, 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.120 it's kind of interesting how this all came about, but 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:36.160 it was I was bound to end up in Arkansas 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.719 duck hunting just because it's I mean, I've lived so 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.320 close to my whole life and it just wasn't something 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.200 that we did, didn't have any connections here, and then 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.440 to come here and to experience it, and more than 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.719 just experience it, to see the culture of it. And 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.680 then it's one thing to hear from somebody from Stuck 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.440 Guard or somebody from down here like you three, how 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.280 cool it is and the culture here. The real data 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.040 point that I listened to that was like, hey, these 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:09.320 folks ain't lying with Sean Weaver, who has been like Clay, 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:14.240 this is the place for waterfowl culture. Even last summer 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:20.360 when we started planning doing a hunt together, it kind 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.119 of blew my mind a little bit. I was like, 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.800 you live in Arkansas. We've got to get you into 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.280 the Delta and do some duck hunting. We have to. 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.399 And yeah, so this this week's hunts have been before 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.880 we before we go there. So we went into Stuck Guarden, 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.760 we went to Max's Prairie Wings, which is an event 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.600 all of its own. Austin's eyes are rolling in the 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:44.440 back of Max. Okay, Max tell us about going to 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.560 Max's Prairie Wings. So Ever since I started water for hunting, 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.280 we didn't have any like great waterfall stores up in 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.159 North Dakota, and me and my dad, I was shopped 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.600 on Max's Prayer Wings and this was ten named after 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:02.879 the Max M A C K S and M A X. 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:06.879 But yeah, anyway, so like growing up, me and my 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:10.920 dad would always shop online at Max Perry Wings and 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.760 I was so such a big fan of it because 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.680 like every time a Max package showed up, I was like, 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.000 I don't know what that's gonna be. It's gonna be decoys. 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.679 So when we're up in the parking lot we're walking in, 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:26.720 you were like, I've been waiting fifteen years for Yeah, 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.399 he disappeared in the store. We didn't find him for 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:35.080 like walked down every single while when we when I 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.600 was like, I think all you bought was chapstick, though 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:44.680 every dull. When I said it's time to go, he goes. 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.960 I have not walked down every aisle yet. I was like, Okay, 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.439 it was fun. Max brought the energy that I needed 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.560 when I walked into Max. But so we went there 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:57.840 and you know, there's just kind of a waterfowl episode, 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:02.000 are you walking? Everybody's there all water Fowler's you know, 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:03.800 you just you just kind of realize you're in this 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.520 like hub of seriousness for this thing. Well, then we 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.720 drive down the street just within sight to go see 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:17.879 Jimbo ron Quest. Yeah, we actually had to get on 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.080 the two lane road and back in, but yes, it's 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.840 like right there. They told me we're gonna go by 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:27.320 Jimbo shop. And I had only met him just un 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.399 couple of days, but we were at a duck camp 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:31.000 and they said we're gonna go to a shop. I 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:35.040 am envisioning a wood shop where people make duck calls, 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:39.320 like a small metal building maybe with a couple of yeah, 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.959 maybe some ELPs, you know, some duck mounts maybe and 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:45.720