Speaker 1: Lame he laughing. If you watch Coffee Time to Baby,
Speaker 1: you know the name flame, my role also known as
Speaker 1: my role Flame. Come in with last and come in
Speaker 1: with Jawn love lunds. Baby, you better catch it when
Speaker 1: you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to polytics shouting
Speaker 1: now comics just paying homics. What's up till yeah? You
Speaker 1: know she raped shot towns on speaking to the ground.
Speaker 1: And second we're gonna last cut of the kicking in
Speaker 1: at the end. We leave it with just a lift
Speaker 1: you spirit. You think you want to revisit, tell your
Speaker 1: first take a listen, tell folks say it slip all
Speaker 1: folks that we take it to. No this, do what
Speaker 1: you do, nokis, do what you do? Can't no kiss,
Speaker 1: do what I do? No flame? What a flame? It?
Speaker 1: Come doun in that room which were thinking, well, hello everyone, welcome, welcome,
Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, come on. If we even introduced you, boy,
Speaker 1: I'll come on the show. Is this this is laugh
Speaker 1: and learning, laugh and flaming. Bro and new fans, y'all.
Speaker 1: See the new fans, y'all, see the new fans that
Speaker 1: came in. Do your job playing, Do your job play
Speaker 1: what else we got here? You take one. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what's your wrong with me? I just look like I
Speaker 1: just look like that. That's okay, I feel Look what
Speaker 1: about that one? That's the one right there, y'all and
Speaker 1: we have a he she we shaan hit you over
Speaker 1: with a wink. The fans are in y'all. I'm not
Speaker 1: shipping the mouth, so I don't start asking how you
Speaker 1: can meet me in Chicago on September two six for
Speaker 1: the White Party and you can get a fan uh huh?
Speaker 1: At that pretty pretty? And there we go, there we go.
Speaker 1: I'm a backwards queen, so yeah, pretty, look pretty pretty?
Speaker 1: Do your job playing? So lay Jim and thank you
Speaker 1: guys for joining us here today at Laugh and Learn.
Speaker 1: I am your host Slaming Row. This is my partner
Speaker 1: learning Hogan Um and we appreciate you guys. We have
Speaker 1: our camera, got Kendall here too, because Kendall gonna be
Speaker 1: some ox tails with us later. You have our sails
Speaker 1: so you can tell me though I'm eating when the
Speaker 1: shows over. Actually they were very tasty to see. I'm
Speaker 1: a good teaching Speaking of teaching, Thank you guys for
Speaker 1: joining us today. It has been a week. Lady and gentleman.
Speaker 1: It has been a weekend, let me say that, and
Speaker 1: it ain't even got staw it yet. We didn't get
Speaker 1: to that conversation later. I'll just say a piece of
Speaker 1: blessings that you made it back on time. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: because here we wasn't playing with y'all. Listen. I had
Speaker 1: to send flames and very mean emojis yesterday because she
Speaker 1: was playing with my emotions in terms of the time
Speaker 1: over the weekend. And she didn't even have a gumming
Speaker 1: who was acting like she was with the Lord. I
Speaker 1: was definitely with God and I wasn't with I was
Speaker 1: talking to him, but I wasn't sitting with him. She
Speaker 1: got some guns and knives emojis from me this Weekena,
Speaker 1: So New York, I went to New York. So my
Speaker 1: purpose for going to New York was to go to
Speaker 1: Ida rod Riquez, who is my girl from they Ready
Speaker 1: she take her when I was special for HBO and
Speaker 1: I promised her I would be there. So that was
Speaker 1: my purpose for going. Just other things the reason why
Speaker 1: I was there, which were great, we think so. But
Speaker 1: I am glad to be home. Thank you Henry for
Speaker 1: letting me out to lorn How it was your week?
Speaker 1: Did you no, thankfully. Actually, I was supposed to go
Speaker 1: to Jackson, Mississippi this Thursday because we were going to
Speaker 1: do this big concert with one of the radio stations
Speaker 1: there for my other other job. And basically we decided
Speaker 1: to cancel it because of all the COVID numbers, like
Speaker 1: Mississippi is the worst state right now, so we just
Speaker 1: kind of made the executive decision it wasn't safe and
Speaker 1: so I get to stay here for to it, which
Speaker 1: was segways us until I've heard the conversation that today
Speaker 1: the FDA approved the vaccines for fighter so the and
Speaker 1: now it is fd approved, will that change some minds?
Speaker 1: Possibly even mind possibly possibly even mine, because now I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know what, maybe now they get it right.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna I'm still not I'm still Teeta tartering,
Speaker 1: but at least now I feel now I feel a
Speaker 1: little saving that it's been FDA approved. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: still thinking about it. I'm still thinking about it, but
Speaker 1: I think that you've come a long way to even
Speaker 1: be considering it because we've we've had a lot of
Speaker 1: conversations about this, and oh you don't want to see me.
Speaker 1: I do want to see what I don't have as
Speaker 1: my real glasses. I left my glasses in the house,
Speaker 1: so I can't see none of the comments. But know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: You know that you're even still considering it because we've
Speaker 1: had lots of conversations just about you've got some type
Speaker 1: of protection is better than none, and you know you
Speaker 1: would hate for something to happen to family members, which
Speaker 1: is why I got it in the first time. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm seventy COVID tests in as when do we take
Speaker 1: the birthfastbut Friday as a Friday. I just had in
Speaker 1: my seventy COVID tests seven zero and I had to
Speaker 1: pay for that one, and I'm negatively still and I'm
Speaker 1: having another one on Wednesday because it's Friday. What are
Speaker 1: you doing? We will be on TVs Friday Night Vibes
Speaker 1: with Tiffany Hannish and Dr Code. So I'm aware of
Speaker 1: gown for y'all, friend and get y'all, give it to y'all,
Speaker 1: Give it to y'all. So we're gonna get to this
Speaker 1: fd air proved. I love the fact that they that
Speaker 1: they're moving so quick to try to get this done.
Speaker 1: So more people can get vaccinated, because it's coming down
Speaker 1: to you're going to have to be vaccinated in order
Speaker 1: to any to do anything. They had restaurants in New
Speaker 1: York when I was there that I couldn't go in
Speaker 1: because I didn't have that same car. The same thing
Speaker 1: in New Orleans too, And who would have thought New
Speaker 1: Orleans was one of the first states. So it's changing, y'all,
Speaker 1: The world is changing. You have to have that car.
Speaker 1: That car gonna be like, gonna have me a new
Speaker 1: joke because Angel leeves like flame, you got to have
Speaker 1: a vaccine card in order to get in here and
Speaker 1: get in there. I said, girl, I know people. She said, no,
Speaker 1: you have to have a car. I said, girl, I
Speaker 1: got a fake t Do you think I can't get
Speaker 1: a fake car? I don't have what I was just
Speaker 1: making a joke. You have to watch that interview tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that because you know, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the meat of the show. Right now, we're just
Speaker 1: giving you the Virgians. So, but let's kind of start
Speaker 1: with something that happened this weekend that I know is
Speaker 1: all in the blogs, all in the news. Is she
Speaker 1: carry Richardson? You know she ran the one dred in
Speaker 1: the Prefontaine race, and she finished in ninth. It was,
Speaker 1: and she finished she finished in last. Wow, that goes
Speaker 1: to show you that you only as good as your
Speaker 1: last show. Well, this is what I would say is
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people online are coming for her,
Speaker 1: and we're not going to sit up here and act
Speaker 1: like she hasn't made some very obnoxious comments, whether it
Speaker 1: was you know what she said about little Noazac's basically
Speaker 1: saying if you follow him, just then follow me now.
Speaker 1: And I just think that she's very young, she has
Speaker 1: she got a lot of you know, a spotlight put
Speaker 1: on her at such a young age, and she's getting
Speaker 1: so much scrutiny you don't always really know how to
Speaker 1: respond to it. So I think that she's made some
Speaker 1: you know, egotistical comments, but overall, you know, she basically
Speaker 1: congratulated the runners and said, you know, this is not
Speaker 1: gonna be my last you know race by any means,
Speaker 1: and it's a learning experience and she's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: chalking it up to say I'll be back and I'll
Speaker 1: be doing better. So I think she was humbled by this,
Speaker 1: and maybe she kind of needed to be humbled a
Speaker 1: little bit, and that way she can just kind of
Speaker 1: practice humility going well. Isn't that kind of like what
Speaker 1: we said about the baby last week, that she needs
Speaker 1: somebody around her as well too, because when you're when
Speaker 1: you're good, when you're when you're fantastic, because she is
Speaker 1: a fantastic runner, but you have to have a sportsmanship,
Speaker 1: You have to have somebody in your head to keep
Speaker 1: you grounded, like, yeah, you are the greatest, but you
Speaker 1: can't keep believing that you're the greatest, that nobody else
Speaker 1: will be as great as you, because that's when she
Speaker 1: gets cloudy. And if you get misjudged and you mess up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I just think you know, she was humble because
Speaker 1: nine place that was their last and she was winning everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just she has some of that
Speaker 1: heavy weeds. She has some heavy weed. It's sloading down.
Speaker 1: I think it was very embarrassing for her, But like
Speaker 1: I said, I think she's taken as a learning lesson.
Speaker 1: And she even apologized for the initial comments she made
Speaker 1: after the race and came back and said, this is
Speaker 1: what I meant to say. And I think just by
Speaker 1: her doing that is showing that she's been humbled, and
Speaker 1: she understands that she needs to practice the humanity and
Speaker 1: and will we accept her apology? Yeah, we will accept.
Speaker 1: I think that as a people, black, white, brown are
Speaker 1: indifferent that we need to accept apologies from everyone because
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a mistake. You're not perfect, You're gonna
Speaker 1: make a mistake. And did you want to need to
Speaker 1: apologize for Should I make plenty of I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: one this more? Yeah, But like you said, I think
Speaker 1: she needs somebody in her corner. I mean, maybe not
Speaker 1: a publicist, but just somebody that has some sense of how,
Speaker 1: you know, pr works, so that way they can kind
Speaker 1: of say, hey, stay off Twitter, or hey you don't
Speaker 1: need to be saying this, you know. So, But it's
Speaker 1: definitely you can see it's in the learning process for
Speaker 1: her and she's kind of figuring this out for herself,
Speaker 1: and we all and we all, and we all. Good God.
Speaker 1: It is definitely a life lesson. And thank god that
Speaker 1: they're not just canceling everything, you know, because she made
Speaker 1: some outrageous statement. Oh no, they're coming for her. Let's
Speaker 1: be clear, they're coming for her. Well, so, which I
Speaker 1: don't think it's cool either. We shouldn't be beating down
Speaker 1: you know, especially she's so young. And the internet, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a foul place, it really is. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: reprimand don't reprimand without teaching. That's all I'm saying. You're
Speaker 1: gonna reprimand me, reprimand me and teach me so that
Speaker 1: I don't make the same mistake again. Now, you know
Speaker 1: they saying you can't teach your old dog new trick.
Speaker 1: I may not be an old dog, but I'm damn
Speaker 1: sure a medium cat, Lauren, it is. Um. So let
Speaker 1: me give you all the good news before we get there.
Speaker 1: So thank you, oh my god, thank you Ken, because
Speaker 1: I am I ain't seen that. I can't even see
Speaker 1: my hair. Okay, there it is. So we were resigned
Speaker 1: by uh my heart and the Black Fake Network and
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the Gods to another year of laugh and learned.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. We appreciate that we are gonna get a
Speaker 1: face lift. We're going in a different direction. We made
Speaker 1: some changes. Who will come down the land later, but
Speaker 1: I think it's the new show, the new show that
Speaker 1: the new format that we have. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to catapult us and to something. And the Black Pag
Speaker 1: Network has just acquired a YouTube page or to help
Speaker 1: with our publicity and our pr and they got a publicist.
Speaker 1: So I think things and I'm Charlemagne hired me for
Speaker 1: his new show on Comedy Central, So I'm excited about that,
Speaker 1: executive produced by Stephen Kolbert. I'm moving in different spaces
Speaker 1: and different places, and yeah, so I'm going to that.
Speaker 1: You said too that you want to make sure because
Speaker 1: we're switching kind of from the politics avenue that we're in,
Speaker 1: so you kind of want to form us to chime
Speaker 1: in and say what they would be interested. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: want to know what you guys were like to see
Speaker 1: from us. Um, because we're going in a different directions.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do gossip, but we would like
Speaker 1: to talk about regular topics. But and we will still
Speaker 1: do politics. You cannot get away from politics if you
Speaker 1: awoke and grown and this this society. But we want
Speaker 1: to know what you guys would like to see from us.
Speaker 1: What kind of show would you all like to see? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're looking forward to that and we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: it moving and we just want to tell everybody thank
Speaker 1: you for making a show successful. We appreciate it. We
Speaker 1: appreciate giving us another year because this was our building year,
Speaker 1: this was our growing year. So now we're going to
Speaker 1: another year. We're going to go in a different direction,
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be great. I agree,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. You can put your suggested Bobby, you can
Speaker 1: send it to me, or you can put them on here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna do a thing because we're gonna
Speaker 1: look at it. Yeah, or you guys can send you know,
Speaker 1: me a dam or saying if you can't even send
Speaker 1: Flame the damn, I'll look at it. So because you know,
Speaker 1: Flame doesn't want to look to the dames. But unless
Speaker 1: you're cute, look at that. Look at what else are
Speaker 1: we talking a? So you want to get into the
Speaker 1: nitty gritty of everything, you want to just let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. M that's what that? That's what that I
Speaker 1: want to hear, so first and foremost, I know, initially,
Speaker 1: Flame is an interview of the Breakfast Club was supposed
Speaker 1: to come out this morning. However, anybody that has a
Speaker 1: tablet currently sees that her photo of her and Boosey
Speaker 1: has now gone viral and the blogs are in uproar
Speaker 1: about it. So due to that, the interview has been
Speaker 1: delayed today. It's going to come out tomorrow. But you
Speaker 1: can see part of the interview that Flame did with Boosey.
Speaker 1: It's up on YouTube on the Breakfast Clubs channel right now.
Speaker 1: So this part of the show is going to turn
Speaker 1: into I'm gonna basically be interviewing Flame. I'm really gonna
Speaker 1: be a troll at this point of the interview, Kendall.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could put like some devil
Speaker 1: horns on me or something, but I'm going to turn
Speaker 1: into a troll. Now. We're gonna have a very very
Speaker 1: open and honest conversation, and we'll bring in the Flame
Speaker 1: mats as well to kind of sound off, and he
Speaker 1: likes to obviously be in the comments as well. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about little blocy not to start with, why
Speaker 1: do you like this man so much? Because I like
Speaker 1: his realness. I like that he is authentically who he is.
Speaker 1: He's very genuine and as a parent as a dad,
Speaker 1: I watch how he raised his sons on what he
Speaker 1: shows us on social media. Now it's a little abstract
Speaker 1: for some people, but he is who he is and
Speaker 1: his kids are not hungry, his kids are not homeless,
Speaker 1: His kids don't look broke down. He is there, he's
Speaker 1: hands out and you might not like the way he
Speaker 1: raised his children, but that's not your call to make.
Speaker 1: That's his call because those are his children. He's still
Speaker 1: right there. It's a lot of dads who don't speak
Speaker 1: like Bucy speaks, who don't who not in the lamb like,
Speaker 1: who are wealthy and don't spend no time with their children.
Speaker 1: He is there with his children. I appreciate him for that.
Speaker 1: I like his wrap and that. You know, when I
Speaker 1: was a young girl, niggas might get down, but when
Speaker 1: I was not, I didn't know that he was going
Speaker 1: to be at the breakfast club. So when he walked
Speaker 1: in the room, we had to get a COVID test.
Speaker 1: So when he walked in the room, I fucking screamed
Speaker 1: like I failed out like the last city, y'all. I did.
Speaker 1: I promise you I did. Because if you're a flame
Speaker 1: mat and you follow me, you hear me always talk
Speaker 1: about Little Boozy that I like Little Boosy. I like
Speaker 1: what he represents as far as that hard. You know,
Speaker 1: then of course he said some things that are extreme
Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, who do that? Ain't cool? But
Speaker 1: who am I to say what he can? And can
Speaker 1: I say? He like? He said, he his own man,
Speaker 1: he'd make his own money, he did his own thing,
Speaker 1: and he was respectful to me. I understand that. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he treated nobody else. He was respectful
Speaker 1: to me. If you watch the inter it, he called
Speaker 1: me she she she he was? He said, I foxed,
Speaker 1: were flame. He was cool because I didn't come in
Speaker 1: with a with a comebative energy. I came in like
Speaker 1: a fan and what's up, boozy? You know. I greeted
Speaker 1: him like a grown up because he is a grown
Speaker 1: man and soul and I'm grown. I almost had the
Speaker 1: kids there. I forgot I had this leg. So I
Speaker 1: hear you say, and I could. I can understand that
Speaker 1: and even kind of agree and say that. You know,
Speaker 1: we have no saying how Blousey raises his kids. But
Speaker 1: I think the issue is is when you see some
Speaker 1: of the things that he said about his kids, and
Speaker 1: how there's a various biased view between son and daughter,
Speaker 1: which is very normal. I'm not about to sit up
Speaker 1: here and say that that's my dad is too most
Speaker 1: like most men are. But I think the issue comes
Speaker 1: in is when you know the topics of oh, he's
Speaker 1: you know, providing himself with prostitute and making these very
Speaker 1: misogynistic comments. And at the end of the day, he's
Speaker 1: still a public figure and he's supposed to be, you know,
Speaker 1: presenting this certain image quote unquote, So why are you
Speaker 1: still kind of okay with that aspect of it? Even
Speaker 1: and your dad too, so touch on that part. So
Speaker 1: when he when he first talked about maybe a year
Speaker 1: or so ago, that he took his son to a
Speaker 1: older woman to have sex with. Uh, I don't know
Speaker 1: if she was a protest or not. She couldn't, but
Speaker 1: he said the older woman he paid her. So But
Speaker 1: when he broke it down and explained it on the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, I completely understood it. Because the son is
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, he was already having sex or I
Speaker 1: was about to have sex or whatever. He had already
Speaker 1: experienced some things, is what's exactly what Boosey said, And
Speaker 1: he took him to somebody that was older and experienced,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't uncomfortable. Um, when he explained it, Laurence,
Speaker 1: I got it, you know what I mean. When I
Speaker 1: first read it or heard I didn't get it, but
Speaker 1: when he explained it to me on the breakfast Club,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know what that you took
Speaker 1: the time to break it down to explain it to me.
Speaker 1: I understand. Do I agree with the completely Absolutely not,
Speaker 1: But at least I took the time to listen to understand.
Speaker 1: And that's what we keep getting long set because we
Speaker 1: just hit the trigger words and want to fight an argue.
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good egg. I thought his
Speaker 1: energy was good. Uh. And that's very true. It's a
Speaker 1: different generation he's and he's in Baton Rouge. The reasonana
Speaker 1: he was raised there. Their raising of their children is
Speaker 1: very different from us. But it was okay. I thought
Speaker 1: he was okay because he explained it in a way
Speaker 1: that another parent, especially a dad who has a son
Speaker 1: who wants him to have a good sexual experience his
Speaker 1: first time, I could understand. I know that sounds a
Speaker 1: little fun fest, but if you're not a parent or
Speaker 1: a dad, you might not understand it. And that's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm on that one, but I thought even
Speaker 1: and I know he he is who he is. You
Speaker 1: know what I respect about him the most. He knows
Speaker 1: who he is. He knows it might be for better
Speaker 1: or for worse. But it's so many people who look
Speaker 1: more successful than him in life and and uh working
Speaker 1: in uh corporate America or the suits and whatever, that
Speaker 1: don't even know who they are in politics, they don't
Speaker 1: even know. He knows who he is. He and he
Speaker 1: accepts it and he embraces it. And that's all and
Speaker 1: the only way we're gonna ever me in between the
Speaker 1: heterosexual community and a gay community, even with some of
Speaker 1: the ship that stream ship that Boosey has seen it
Speaker 1: in the past and probably will say again, if we
Speaker 1: don't sit down and talk to each other and listen
Speaker 1: to each other, it ain't gonna never get fixed. So
Speaker 1: and I know that you never want to be like
Speaker 1: a spokesperson for the LGB teacher community just because your
Speaker 1: community is in opposition a lot of times with you.
Speaker 1: But what do you say to the homophobic comments that
Speaker 1: he has made, whether it was towards Little nas X
Speaker 1: or just gay people in general, and you do identify
Speaker 1: as trans, like, what do you say to that? Well,
Speaker 1: I would say that I probably had a view of
Speaker 1: him that was differently until I met him personally. His publicist,
Speaker 1: his publicist was Twinkle Tolls gay? Uh? He said somebody
Speaker 1: else that worked on his team was gay. So it's
Speaker 1: not that he has an issue with gay people. He
Speaker 1: has an issue with some things that he sees that
Speaker 1: happens in the gay community, and he just voices his opinion. Now,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not warranted. But should we all voice in
Speaker 1: opinion that sometimes not wanting? Myself included. Let me play
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate though, Um, I told you I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: a troll today, securely so. But you're saying though that
Speaker 1: he has, like you know, a gay manager and a
Speaker 1: gay assistant. What's the difference between when white folks say,
Speaker 1: I'm not racist, I got a black friend. You see
Speaker 1: how that can kind of be do you the same
Speaker 1: way I do? But that's also comparing gay to the
Speaker 1: black struggle, Okay, and I never you know, that's the
Speaker 1: thing of man, We don't compare gay to the black
Speaker 1: struggle because the black struggle will always supersede the gay struggles.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, in principle, don't look at it so black
Speaker 1: and white as the gay vers the black struggle. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about from a principal standpoint, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: trying to say I can't be homophobic because look, I
Speaker 1: got a gay assistant and a gay manager, So how
Speaker 1: can I be homophobics Well, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just, you know what, long because maybe I'm old school.
Speaker 1: I treat people the way that they treat me. I
Speaker 1: walked in the room. He came in the room, and
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. So when he came and
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you all this, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you all anyway. So when he came in the room,
Speaker 1: I was so excited, but I had to remember that
Speaker 1: I remembered his comments. I remember some of his views
Speaker 1: that he have said publicly. So I wanted to take
Speaker 1: a picture with Boosey because I'm a fan of Booty. Said,
Speaker 1: that's what you'll have to understand. I am a fan
Speaker 1: of Booste. So I went to his manager, who was
Speaker 1: sitting on the other side of the room, and said,
Speaker 1: do you think you were man if I take a
Speaker 1: picture with him? He heard me asking the man, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm right here, baby, you could take a picture with me.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, really, Because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: invade his personal space. I didn't know how he really felt.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get any negative energy from him,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to invade his face. And he
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want this day and queen pushing
Speaker 1: all up on me. So he's like, come to take
Speaker 1: the pure So we went to take the picture on
Speaker 1: we were as far apart as these two curtains. I
Speaker 1: purposely stood away from him because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be up on his person's face. And the publics like
Speaker 1: get close, to get close. I was like, oh, I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Boosey put his arm around me and pulled me close.
Speaker 1: They come on, baby said, oh, you smell good, very comfortable.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the picture, you'll see he's
Speaker 1: smiling just as big as I am. He was. I
Speaker 1: didn't make him uncomfortable. He wasn't. If I would have
Speaker 1: felt that like I made him uncomfortable, I would have
Speaker 1: pulled back, even though my pullout game it would have
Speaker 1: used to be. But I want to pulled back. But
Speaker 1: he didn't make me feel uncomfortable. He made me. He
Speaker 1: made me feel, you know, just like a regular person.
Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm talking to him like a regular person.
Speaker 1: Well what do you say too, because I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys kind of touched on it. But there's a common
Speaker 1: thread in the comments. I guess you can call it
Speaker 1: the same that you are a pick me and I
Speaker 1: didn't know what the hell that meant, But I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is when it pick Mark, Okay, let
Speaker 1: me let me grab Mark so he can. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick me, break it down so it can for everyone consistently.
Speaker 1: I'm not a trendy. I'm they say I'm not a
Speaker 1: because I Mark? What the hell is it? Pick me?
Speaker 1: Why don't ask that? They attempted to make it a read,
Speaker 1: but pick me as somebody who's essentially always seeking validation
Speaker 1: or approval from a certain demographic. Meanwhile, ship on their
Speaker 1: own right, So someone who's like desperate, for instance, they're
Speaker 1: trying to say Flames always seeking out heterosexual men because
Speaker 1: that's the audience that she wants to pee. That shows
Speaker 1: my d M. That showed you who's seeking out me? Right.
Speaker 1: What they're saying is that she's like she's she's sacrificing
Speaker 1: her values or character just to get a little bit
Speaker 1: of acceptance, which is not true because her rhetoric has
Speaker 1: a change. Right. It was a failed attempt how to
Speaker 1: read almost like a yes man essentially, right, Okay, I
Speaker 1: took it as an attention horn. That's what it sounds like,
Speaker 1: like you just love attention. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: with them trying to say that, you know, uh, playing sacrifices,
Speaker 1: you know, the community just to level herself up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's like whatever different community is saying,
Speaker 1: because she and everybody recognizes that she can cross barriers
Speaker 1: and communities. Now it's been labeled as a pick me
Speaker 1: some of that, some of the stuff people make up
Speaker 1: to say is really stupid to me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Um and if and none of these people
Speaker 1: are licensed, and it's always somebody that don't nobody can
Speaker 1: attention to. I want to tell you what you are,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. What they're mad at is
Speaker 1: that they picked flame and they didn't pick their go
Speaker 1: to what they don't even get asked questions at the office.
Speaker 1: Somebody is telling them what to do, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, well, this is what I think
Speaker 1: you are. I think your canvas owns of the community,
Speaker 1: you know, But you know, I have to give credit.
Speaker 1: What credit is do? That was damn good, That was
Speaker 1: ja um And I didn't have to get more to
Speaker 1: tell me what the hell they met. But again, I
Speaker 1: think that is so sad, so sad that you're trying
Speaker 1: to fix the fraendments in your community while you're trying
Speaker 1: to hurt someone of your career. Well, here's this, I
Speaker 1: don't even want everybody like me. Here's the kicker. I
Speaker 1: really did not when you're when you I'm not going
Speaker 1: to tell you all what the interview is. But when
Speaker 1: you see the interview, I think some of you all
Speaker 1: gonna be pleasantly surprised because y'all judging me off of
Speaker 1: a picture you haven't even seen the interview. And when
Speaker 1: you watch when they brought me in with Boothy, Boothy
Speaker 1: and I discussed his daughter, if his daughter was to
Speaker 1: marry well, and I boxed him in to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna love your daughter morning, you're gonna hate what
Speaker 1: she becomes because it's the truth as a parent, as
Speaker 1: a dad. But they don't want to hear that. They
Speaker 1: just saw that I took a picture with this guy
Speaker 1: who they think is a homophobe, and they just lost
Speaker 1: their man. And it's fan, lose your damn man, because man,
Speaker 1: my man ain't going nowhere. You know, like I said,
Speaker 1: don't know much about him, but I did watch the interview,
Speaker 1: and to be honest to me, I mean I think, yes,
Speaker 1: I think he's ignorant, but also at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think he's just very old school and conservative and
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts and you're not gonna change someone's
Speaker 1: mentality overnight. So the more he's introduced to people like you,
Speaker 1: and there's around people like you too, where he can
Speaker 1: hear bits and pieces because y'all box him in a
Speaker 1: little bit. He said he likes girl on girl action,
Speaker 1: but when it comes to him in it's opposite. So
Speaker 1: he already is starting to realize, okay, you you know what,
Speaker 1: they kind of me My head up right there with that.
Speaker 1: So the more he's around people like you and people
Speaker 1: give him the space say what he wants to say,
Speaker 1: you also learn and remove some of that ignorance. He
Speaker 1: will come around and maybe he won't. But it's not
Speaker 1: our place to force our agenda or what we think
Speaker 1: is right. Don't say that. Yeah, that's something that baton
Speaker 1: rouge and no disrespect what's so yeah at all? But
Speaker 1: that's some you know, bad rouge still floating in him.
Speaker 1: And I like to see the mix. I'd like to
Speaker 1: see the growth and people as well, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And really it comes down to, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: I think he's a root and this is no shade
Speaker 1: at all. I think he's really the example of toxic
Speaker 1: masculinity in a way. Right. It's with a lot of
Speaker 1: the heterosexual men. That's their thought process. But it's something
Speaker 1: that is almost common. And again, the more we allow
Speaker 1: them in our spaces and the more we allowed to
Speaker 1: have that conversation, eventually they will come around. And if
Speaker 1: they don't, and you have a problem with it, guess what.
Speaker 1: Don't support Boosey. I don't even know what Boosey song.
Speaker 1: I'm not bothered by it. Let me ask the question.
Speaker 1: You've been working with me for more than a year
Speaker 1: since and what do you always call me? Oh? Very sure?
Speaker 1: You were an anomaly. I've and I have said this
Speaker 1: before I were reiterated. I have never met a trans
Speaker 1: person like flame. And I work for the largest a
Speaker 1: s O, which is an aid service organization in the world.
Speaker 1: In the world, okay, we're in forty five countries globally,
Speaker 1: sixteen states domestically, and we have a specific affinity group
Speaker 1: called Flux and it is all trans people of the
Speaker 1: trans experience. That's that's who we work with. And it's
Speaker 1: a very extremely different experience working with you know, that
Speaker 1: Affinity group and working with Flame. I've never met someone
Speaker 1: of trans experience that has the same thought processes, you,
Speaker 1: the same ideals, or even just prioritize a certain topics
Speaker 1: like you do. Do you think I'm fair? Very, That's
Speaker 1: all I want to be. I just want to be
Speaker 1: fair to people because I want people to be fair
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah. I think what I create about you
Speaker 1: learn is that you don't you don't try to uh
Speaker 1: invalidate flames experience or her opinions. And what happened yesterday,
Speaker 1: what we saw was someone trying to, oh, well, don't
Speaker 1: come to Flame and ask Flame about this or that
Speaker 1: when they're just trying to promote a show. It's like,
Speaker 1: so you're saying that Flame's opinion is not valid. No,
Speaker 1: there is space for everybody, and until we get out
Speaker 1: of this headspace of entitlement in the community, feeling like
Speaker 1: we're entitled to something or there are ways the way
Speaker 1: we're never gonna change. Like it's just it's bizarre that
Speaker 1: so many of those fans and followers. They are not
Speaker 1: able to think and articulate their own thoughts or uh positions.
Speaker 1: They just hear what they think sounds good and they
Speaker 1: get behind it. But really, I think so you're a
Speaker 1: trial blazer and because you're comfortable with who you are,
Speaker 1: you don't mind speaking it. And that's a good thing
Speaker 1: in all of us, you know what I mean? Um
Speaker 1: and more people will come out with your same with
Speaker 1: your same sort of thinking because that you have created
Speaker 1: a comfortable space for them to feel that they can
Speaker 1: come out and say what they want to say. But
Speaker 1: um what that you'll grow in your community. It's gonna
Speaker 1: come with growing things for you. Now, it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like you're bothered because you do well with keeping yourself surrounded.
Speaker 1: But I think part of the problem is is that
Speaker 1: if you would put on like lipstick around here and
Speaker 1: in in exaggerate buffoonery, you would be more respected. But
Speaker 1: because you're smart, just not respected. Just further along in
Speaker 1: my career as far as statue litt because I don't
Speaker 1: know even know if they respect that that that gooner,
Speaker 1: it's just a novelty. I don't never want to be
Speaker 1: labeled as a novelty. Well, you know what earlier I
Speaker 1: think mixed up how how to accept people. So people
Speaker 1: were trying to get in anyway. And there's still some
Speaker 1: buffoonery right there in the community because they think that's
Speaker 1: what folks want. People have changed their imageries because of
Speaker 1: the sisters now saying, hey, that's not that's not might
Speaker 1: get down. I have a challenge, I have a crap.
Speaker 1: I am this person. Uh and so I think that's
Speaker 1: what all the craziness is far. I mean, everybody can
Speaker 1: get up and storm, you know, when there's an emotional issue.
Speaker 1: I take no brand, you know, gestures or posture as
Speaker 1: anyone who says, you know, up with the people, Well
Speaker 1: what you've been doing for the people every damn day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So to sit on a
Speaker 1: hot button, you know, an act like you're getting ready
Speaker 1: to touch it, you know, on issues I don't even know,
Speaker 1: like people reaction every people around me because it stumps
Speaker 1: micro you know. So I think that's what your face
Speaker 1: with because you're not dumb. Because the young lady yesterday,
Speaker 1: she came as a mouthpiece, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and they you know, she was set by the best
Speaker 1: and that's time, it just isn't what it has to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, everybody's sitting in church, don't bring one another.
Speaker 1: You can go to your house and everybody's not gonna
Speaker 1: agree inside your damn house. So why in the hell
Speaker 1: are they forcing you? Are trying to force you to
Speaker 1: be a mouthpiece for the whole community. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's one thing to know. Well, a couple of things.
Speaker 1: I want to just kind of highlight what you said
Speaker 1: t T. And to back up a little bit regarding
Speaker 1: Boosey and him being from Baton Rouge. I just want
Speaker 1: to make it very blatant and very clear. There is
Speaker 1: a lot of stigma throughout the South, from Alabama to
Speaker 1: Mississippi because we're really it's interesting now that you know
Speaker 1: certain you know, l g b t Q and a
Speaker 1: s o s are really being called into these areas
Speaker 1: to provide education because there's such a huge lack and
Speaker 1: it's really sad to see that a lot of people
Speaker 1: still think that, like you just simple things like you
Speaker 1: could get HIV from sitting on a toilet, like those
Speaker 1: are still things that people think are really real. So
Speaker 1: when it comes to the LGBTQ community and issues around,
Speaker 1: you know, trans experiences, trans experien and engay people. It's
Speaker 1: just there's so much stigma and ignorance that it's like
Speaker 1: in my mind, it's like I can't even expect anything else,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really sad to say that. Um. The
Speaker 1: only other thing that I want to say is can
Speaker 1: you just provide some more context to the female that
Speaker 1: you're talking about in terms of the interview, so that
Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about? It would have been uh,
Speaker 1: just Hope, Hope Giselle I always called Giselle, but it's
Speaker 1: Hope Giselle that interview. I h thank you again for
Speaker 1: sharing that with me. Um. I was familiar with her
Speaker 1: because of her role that she plays. Um, you have
Speaker 1: to be careful when you label yourself activists, and you
Speaker 1: have to be careful like I have to be careful
Speaker 1: who we send to speak for us, because I do
Speaker 1: think she said, I do think that because you had
Speaker 1: the same air for her as she had for Booty.
Speaker 1: She let her talk and they had a next change.
Speaker 1: But when she brought up past interviews to to to say, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't get you on my other dialog, what about this?
Speaker 1: But when you did that interview, who cares they invited her,
Speaker 1: and it was a lot of people that were like, yeah, Flame,
Speaker 1: you're white, You're right, But she wanted to bring this
Speaker 1: up as something that she had a problem. Would like,
Speaker 1: who said You're gonna be the mouthpiece? But I hope
Speaker 1: no one said I was gonna be the ear Well
Speaker 1: I will say is if you guys want to look
Speaker 1: at the interview, it's on Game Magazine's Instagram. I think
Speaker 1: it's literally the first post, and you can go and
Speaker 1: look at it. But just so we can set the
Speaker 1: record straight and break it down so it can forever
Speaker 1: and consistently be broke flame, How how do you identify
Speaker 1: are you a spokesperson? Who are you in the community
Speaker 1: or not in the community. Okay, so that's a good question, Lawrence.
Speaker 1: So I am. I am a transfer woman for more
Speaker 1: than thirty five years. But when y'all but y'all love
Speaker 1: to say I'm a dread queen, a lot of y'all
Speaker 1: haven't done no research on me. Y'all have seen me
Speaker 1: because I have become popular in the last two or
Speaker 1: three years, but I've been in the game for thirty years.
Speaker 1: I've been this same flame, same dialect, same way of thinking,
Speaker 1: same traction for thirty but you all just didn't know
Speaker 1: who I was. And now that I got a little
Speaker 1: shine and y'all see me in the forefront. I'm expected
Speaker 1: to be this super advocate who I support my transistors.
Speaker 1: And when you watch the interview, you will see that
Speaker 1: which side of history do you want to be on?
Speaker 1: Do I want to be on the side where you
Speaker 1: angry and disgruntled because you can't go to a bath
Speaker 1: froom when they didn't get your pronoun right, or you
Speaker 1: can't get this, Or do I want to be on
Speaker 1: the positive side of We are moving in spaces and
Speaker 1: capacities that we have never had in our lifetimes. We
Speaker 1: have a state senator, We have actresses. M J. Rodriguez
Speaker 1: has broken the glass ceiling that being nominated as the
Speaker 1: first female actress of transgender experience in a major role.
Speaker 1: Whether she wins or not, we have one. I don't
Speaker 1: see the glass half empty. I see the glass half full.
Speaker 1: The choice of what you see is on you. You
Speaker 1: cannot live your life through me. I can't live my
Speaker 1: life through nobody else. I'm uphill women's rights, uphill trans
Speaker 1: were trans women's rights. I find my sisters when it's
Speaker 1: a good, good thing. But when it's some bullshit, I
Speaker 1: ain't with the bullshit and I'm not gonna fight over
Speaker 1: the bullshit. And let's just stop making everything a social
Speaker 1: justice issue or a controversy. If you need a paycheck,
Speaker 1: go to Flame and say, Flame, can you help me
Speaker 1: out get an opportunity about listen? But you know my point.
Speaker 1: If someone wants to get on the platform, Hey, Flame,
Speaker 1: is there any way you can at least just make
Speaker 1: a connection from me, But don't try to create controversy
Speaker 1: because you need a paycheck and that's how you get
Speaker 1: your money. Well, I think the second or third show
Speaker 1: we did for Laugh and Learned were called pick your battles.
Speaker 1: And I'm a strong believer in whatever you invite into
Speaker 1: your DNA will be in your DNA. I don't invite
Speaker 1: bullshit into my DNA. Some things I just don't even
Speaker 1: want to know about. If it's insignificant to me, there's
Speaker 1: no need for me to talk about it. If I
Speaker 1: saw one of my trans sisters get whipped on the street,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull out my ship and bust them in
Speaker 1: the head, whoever he is, because that's my trans sistor.
Speaker 1: Whether she started to fight or not. But if it's
Speaker 1: some bullish it and she didn't kick it off, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put myself in harm's away or in
Speaker 1: jeopardy because a lot of times we walk around this
Speaker 1: grunted and combative and angry and arguentative. I'm not like that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight. I want people to get along.
Speaker 1: The only way we ever gonna make other people comfortable
Speaker 1: around us is making it's us being comfortable we who
Speaker 1: we are, and walking in that room and with your
Speaker 1: headheld had and feeling comfortable enough, and they can feel
Speaker 1: your energy. Energy is transferable. If you walk in in
Speaker 1: a good mood, they're gonna get that good move. If
Speaker 1: you walk in shitty, they're gonna feel that, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna get away from you because it's never going to work.
Speaker 1: I'm walking in shitty, I walk in bubbly and here,
Speaker 1: and I'll not tell you wait a minute, mar give
Speaker 1: me when I tell y'all, y'all thought that Booty was
Speaker 1: this and this. If Boozy had a box of me
Speaker 1: and me and Boosey would have went at it. Understand me.
Speaker 1: A n S is ruled number four to be in
Speaker 1: a flame. It that is ain't never skinned me and
Speaker 1: Booty would have had words, but there was no need
Speaker 1: to have words because I've expressed this many many times
Speaker 1: to you all. I don't demand your respect, I command
Speaker 1: your respect. The way I treat me is how you
Speaker 1: will treat me or you will get dealt with. I
Speaker 1: beg you did not walk in the room saying I'm
Speaker 1: chat or walk in completely pronounce me. Is this or doubt?
Speaker 1: You carried yourself in a way to where he naturally
Speaker 1: saw that, and that's how you present yourself, and that's
Speaker 1: how you respected you. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: times it's insecurities within a lot of people where they
Speaker 1: feel like they have to God gives them validation. Is
Speaker 1: when someone addresses them, she He's gonna naturally do that
Speaker 1: if you present yourself that way. So a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Now what what what I will say though, is part
Speaker 1: two one year point flame and marks is with my
Speaker 1: and my own experience dealing, you know, with the trans community.
Speaker 1: One I will say that there is a very serious,
Speaker 1: height level level of sensitivity when it comes to dealing
Speaker 1: with the trans community, and I wish that it wasn't there,
Speaker 1: because sometimes it feels like you're walking on eggshells now,
Speaker 1: mind you, I absolutely think however you want to be
Speaker 1: identified as that should be respected, and that's how people
Speaker 1: should address you absolutely wholeheartedly. It's important because that's how
Speaker 1: you identify. However, two flames point. To have these conversations
Speaker 1: and to really like make progress and move forward, there
Speaker 1: has to be we like y'all can't be on defense
Speaker 1: all the time. Now, mind you, I understand that trauma
Speaker 1: has been experienced and everything else, but guess what I'm
Speaker 1: black to We could probably relate on a lot of
Speaker 1: the trauma issues. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think that there needs to be some type of
Speaker 1: WOSA for we can actually have these conversations. Otherwise we're
Speaker 1: not going to move forward. And that's what I appreciate
Speaker 1: about you is that you never come into a situation
Speaker 1: being combative. You're coming to actually have a productive conversation.
Speaker 1: And that's why I said, in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: you're an anomaly. Well, to be fair, for most trans
Speaker 1: men and trans women, if you if you make them comfortable,
Speaker 1: if you put them in a space of comfortability. Most
Speaker 1: transmian and trans women love to share their stories, but
Speaker 1: you can't come at them sad ways and oh, I
Speaker 1: know you're a woman, but uh you but she looking
Speaker 1: like so it's a trans man. He looks like a man,
Speaker 1: but you know he's actually underneath biologically a woman. And
Speaker 1: you come and say, oh girl, girl, you not already
Speaker 1: made them uncomfortable. But if you put them in a
Speaker 1: space of safety and comfortable and say hey, what's your name?
Speaker 1: Your name Lauren, Oh my god, and you say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trans worm and say, oh my god, tell me
Speaker 1: about that. Most trans people are so transparent that they
Speaker 1: will share that story. But if you make me feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: we immediately go to the defense because we have lived
Speaker 1: our lives on the defense, mostly with our family, with
Speaker 1: our friends, because we have talked about this transgender and
Speaker 1: I think too, there's so much still that needs to
Speaker 1: still be learned. Like when I tell you a month
Speaker 1: ago I learned something new is that there are trans
Speaker 1: women now that are identifying as being hetero sexual women.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that that was even a thing.
Speaker 1: But again, education, things are changing so much like in
Speaker 1: your day, Seriously, forget the same thing. I did the
Speaker 1: same thing, but I didn't know that That's how the
Speaker 1: trans community is evolving now flame in your hey day,
Speaker 1: don't sit the water in your hey day? Was that
Speaker 1: even a thing? There's there's just so much still here's
Speaker 1: the kick now that let's just say this. So you
Speaker 1: say trans women have beans, women have now identified as
Speaker 1: hetero sexual women. So I ain't the only one that
Speaker 1: like some pus? Is that what it is? So that's
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. I ain't the only one. What
Speaker 1: you likes some puss and and and that's all. And
Speaker 1: I know I said it as simple as I could,
Speaker 1: but that's what it is. That is what it is.
Speaker 1: You just want to live and present yourself as a woman.
Speaker 1: But if you still enjoy the company of an anatomy
Speaker 1: of a female, then that's okay. That is what ah we.
Speaker 1: You can identify as what you want, but what you
Speaker 1: like is what you like. That's it. It's only gonna
Speaker 1: be one of the sick or the stone, the stick
Speaker 1: or the people. I got both within the the dick
Speaker 1: too small and the coach to be real talk, because
Speaker 1: if you got both of the penis always about this
Speaker 1: be real talk. But I'm saying all this to say
Speaker 1: is I just think it's important, especially now because things
Speaker 1: are ever evolving and changing is that we have. We
Speaker 1: can't come into situations combative because there's so much information
Speaker 1: that's changing every day that if we're gonna make each
Speaker 1: other feel comfortable, we gotta be willing to have a
Speaker 1: conversation and talk to each other. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna agree with I don't do it. I
Speaker 1: don't agree with everything that Boosey said. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with everything that he said on the show. But that
Speaker 1: was understand that when they called me and in my head,
Speaker 1: thank you for the compliment on being experience, and oh
Speaker 1: that was his interview. That was not my interview. I
Speaker 1: had already taken my interview. They called me into his,
Speaker 1: So I wasn't gonna come into his interview and and
Speaker 1: and dominate his interview first of all, and nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: dominate nothing of a boost because Bushy gonna get his
Speaker 1: point across real talk. That didn't gonna say what you
Speaker 1: got to say. But that was not my position to
Speaker 1: come into dominant. And now, if it was a one
Speaker 1: on one exchange interview with me and Boosey, we probably
Speaker 1: would have exchanged heat high low in between, but we
Speaker 1: would have listened to each other, and when Boscy talked,
Speaker 1: I shut the funk up and let him speak. Just
Speaker 1: like when I was speaking, he was quiet and respectful
Speaker 1: and let me get my point across. Were so quick
Speaker 1: to cut each other off when we when we hear
Speaker 1: a word that shake us one word trans. Oh so
Speaker 1: you don't like trans that you didn't even let the
Speaker 1: nigga finishes statement. I'm not for the argument. I don't
Speaker 1: want the pushback, and I don't want to fight. I
Speaker 1: want to work. I want my children to be safe
Speaker 1: and happy. I like the home that I'm living in,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I like my checks and lords your point
Speaker 1: about the labeling. The young lady yesterday made a comment
Speaker 1: about people are just lazy, not necessarily that people are lazy.
Speaker 1: It's really a lot. I just me and Bobby were
Speaker 1: just having a conversation about what the I I didn't
Speaker 1: even know. And it's not because I'm lazy. It's just because, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Last time I heard it was lgbt Q.
Speaker 1: Now it's I A and I just haven't taken the
Speaker 1: time to look because I'm like, well, damn, what else
Speaker 1: is on the spectrum. They're go ahead, al They're gonna
Speaker 1: have to put PM for pick me because that's a
Speaker 1: new one. They gave me pick me now, so you
Speaker 1: got PM terms. People like the newness of introducing stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a young lady and she identified
Speaker 1: as something. She said that she can't like anybody until
Speaker 1: she starts liking them, so she doesn't know. I said,
Speaker 1: if you're confused, damn, I'm confused. Don't give me another
Speaker 1: damn term to learn because I'm so not interested. And
Speaker 1: who you like and who like? Speaking to Gazel yesterday,
Speaker 1: you know, I think, like, Lord, you just made a
Speaker 1: very valid point about the South. So you can't send
Speaker 1: a highly educated vernacular person to the South that don't
Speaker 1: speak that to teach them about training. You have to
Speaker 1: give just like what the police it's called what what
Speaker 1: was they called? Not defund the police? What was the
Speaker 1: other thing? Reform? You have to put somebody who speaks
Speaker 1: my language for we can't understand what you're saying to me.
Speaker 1: So if I need Keisha to come explain it to
Speaker 1: me in the hood, because I'm gonna understand it from Keisha,
Speaker 1: then that's what it is. But if I'm in this
Speaker 1: high high m Peel Hill area and Mr Bartholomew comes
Speaker 1: to teach me his way, and that's the way I understand.
Speaker 1: Then that's what I understand. You keep trying to use
Speaker 1: these big words and all these different terminologies on people
Speaker 1: who don't even understand. It's either you got the A, B, C.
Speaker 1: And in order for them something yourself some people to
Speaker 1: understand it, or they're never going to understand it. And
Speaker 1: y'all don't want to ABC. Y'all want to use all
Speaker 1: these big gass terms and create some ship every day,
Speaker 1: including pick me baby. We can't keep up? How then
Speaker 1: keep up cobulary does not equal education vocabulary. That's not
Speaker 1: not at all. That's what I'm saying. I can tell
Speaker 1: you the same I can tell long the house on fire,
Speaker 1: beat your house on fire my way, or I can
Speaker 1: go Mr Tolliver, oh my god, there isn't there's an
Speaker 1: altercation on your block and there's a house that's burning
Speaker 1: and we think that it's yours when it could have
Speaker 1: been real something. But beat your house on fire now,
Speaker 1: or you say, Molly, you and danger girl, danger girl,
Speaker 1: thank you. But I think people are intrigued by because
Speaker 1: you have the spotlight now, so it's like, let's make
Speaker 1: it more complex, because complex is better, just like big
Speaker 1: words are better, or the more you pay for the
Speaker 1: item makes it better. And really it's bs. I really think.
Speaker 1: I think people are mirroring you because you are smart,
Speaker 1: and so before they embrace your smart it's looked at
Speaker 1: as uh a weapon or some sort because you kind
Speaker 1: of bleed in on You don't really have to act
Speaker 1: like that, you know, you just stand up for who
Speaker 1: you are, you know what I mean. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's a good point of that. I think that's a
Speaker 1: good point t T. Janny to say it simply, you
Speaker 1: don't fit into society's box. You don't box. I'm too fat.
Speaker 1: You just you don't. You you don't fit into the
Speaker 1: societal norms of what a person of the lgbt Q
Speaker 1: experience should be. And because you don't, all these people
Speaker 1: hate you. It's room for everybody, but clearly not do
Speaker 1: they hate me? Yes me, according to them comments, a
Speaker 1: lot of people hate you. Yeah you Friday Night on
Speaker 1: PBS go that's what that is here, here's the kicker Friday.
Speaker 1: I will be on TBS with Tiffany had It on
Speaker 1: Friday Night Apps with her and Deon Cole and I'm
Speaker 1: sure this is gonna come up again. And from Dion's perspective,
Speaker 1: y'all got to understand that the question that that nigga
Speaker 1: is gonna ask me, I probably need to be with
Speaker 1: God because I'm gonna give it to him straight and
Speaker 1: give it to him. Rolls from your couch with your popcorn,
Speaker 1: and I'm drinking. I'm drinking for that. I might have me.
Speaker 1: I might have me a cocktail to J and y'all
Speaker 1: know I don't drink. You don't drink. So the last
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna bring up, and I honestly I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep t T and mark on is what do you
Speaker 1: guys think about the baby? And that he was finally
Speaker 1: allowed to perform back in a public space at a
Speaker 1: main festival at Summer Jam in New York, and he apologized.
Speaker 1: He had a whole public apology as a part of
Speaker 1: his set, and I looked at the comments. Everybody was like,
Speaker 1: he's not canceled. How many times does he have to apologize?
Speaker 1: We love New York for being trend setters, And it
Speaker 1: seems like he's back in the fold. You know, he
Speaker 1: may have taken a couple of else but he's back
Speaker 1: so what do you think? And I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I mean, like, you know, I didn't know
Speaker 1: him before, um, but I mean I followed current events.
Speaker 1: He did apologize publicly to a crowd in real lifetime.
Speaker 1: I thought that was wonderful, and talking about being humbled,
Speaker 1: he thanked them for giving him the opportunity. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't have to cut off their damn leg. You know,
Speaker 1: I've misspoken, I've miss judge um, and I've stood up
Speaker 1: and wrong. You know, when you wrong and you think
Speaker 1: you're right, you'd be like, I don't give a fun
Speaker 1: what nobody said. That's what I heard, and I was wrong,
Speaker 1: But that does mean tear me down to my soul.
Speaker 1: So that's that's all I got. I thought it was wonderful.
Speaker 1: Long Okay, Yeah, I personally I don't think because again
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know him that well. I
Speaker 1: think he made a song about social justice or policing.
Speaker 1: That's the only song that I know that was a
Speaker 1: little baby. We're talking about dub baby. Look, I don't
Speaker 1: know who he is. Look, I don't even know who
Speaker 1: he is either. So all I will say is that, look,
Speaker 1: if you want to support him, support him. People are
Speaker 1: always gonna have fan bases, They're always going to have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to have a platform or space, and it
Speaker 1: is what it is. If you don't like him, then
Speaker 1: don't watch him. I said that from the beginning. If
Speaker 1: the continents didn't apply to you, why were you so
Speaker 1: buck heard about it? So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if he's making his money, that's awesome. He's making an
Speaker 1: impact on people, and it's really If you don't like him,
Speaker 1: then continue not to support him and mind you them
Speaker 1: like I'm doing. I know what I appreciate about it
Speaker 1: that it was so soon. You know, we we we
Speaker 1: we we hold on to grudge just for such a
Speaker 1: long time, but we can be forgiving. And I love
Speaker 1: the fact that he came out. Somebody gave him another
Speaker 1: opportunity and and he he didn't pullish Icari Richards. I
Speaker 1: hate to use this as a comparison, but he didn't
Speaker 1: Japans like, because here's the here's the other side of
Speaker 1: what could have happened with all the takeaway from him.
Speaker 1: He could have became angry and embittered and went on
Speaker 1: the rampage to shoot gay people because it looked like
Speaker 1: it was the gay people that was went after him
Speaker 1: to cancel him mostly, but he didn't. Somebody must have
Speaker 1: gotten his head or talk to him because he's young man,
Speaker 1: and like, dude, you still can salve it your career.
Speaker 1: Let's fix it now, not somebody. The nice white people
Speaker 1: who put on the concert, Thank you white people. He
Speaker 1: made them a promise. He didn't hit that OUI, and
Speaker 1: he didn't drink nothing, and he went out there and
Speaker 1: spoke for his well, thank god by white people. Uh
Speaker 1: the money, I'm told okay. And I love the fact
Speaker 1: that given him an opportunity so soon to you know,
Speaker 1: to reach out to salvage his career because they were
Speaker 1: willing to take away everything so quickly. And I don't.
Speaker 1: Don't reprimand me and don't teach me. I understand the
Speaker 1: reprimand reprimand me. I'm wrong, reprimand me, but didn't teach
Speaker 1: me something y'all can't. Here's the thing where y'all with
Speaker 1: the booty picture, y'all can't reprimand me because I ain't.
Speaker 1: Did you wrong? I took a picture as a fan
Speaker 1: with a celebrity. However you and took took that picture
Speaker 1: into your DNA or to your constitution. That has absolutely
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. Understand, I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: publicly on my platform. I will never apologize for taking
Speaker 1: a picture with Boosey. They're gonna need for me too.
Speaker 1: There is no it was. It was your community that
Speaker 1: came after him, you know what I mean, as they
Speaker 1: came after Shakary. So I think the hot buttons need
Speaker 1: to relax the moment. And if you notice how we
Speaker 1: come after our own folks faster than we go out
Speaker 1: say at one more time, Lauren, y'all ever notice how
Speaker 1: we come after us first before we go after the other.
Speaker 1: Here's the iron The excuse was the reason they were
Speaker 1: so upset and come after the Boosey s. The names
Speaker 1: they can come after because women Black women don't get
Speaker 1: the same grace, But they attacked Shakary Richardson for things.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you can't have it both ways, honey.
Speaker 1: Wait till y'all see the interview. I said on the
Speaker 1: interview early bit, if I would have went on the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club in nineteen the very first time and said
Speaker 1: everything perfectly that my community wanted me to say, word
Speaker 1: for word, verbatim, if it was on the paper and
Speaker 1: I didn't go off off topic at all. Guess what,
Speaker 1: It's still would not have been good enough for them.
Speaker 1: Someone would have found fault with me anyway. That's why
Speaker 1: I embraced this nigga right here, because I love this
Speaker 1: nigga that's talking to y'all right now, and he knows
Speaker 1: who he is. I know who I am. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you that to go look in your mirror and
Speaker 1: ask yourself, do you know who you are? Do you
Speaker 1: know who you are? You better say you better say it,
Speaker 1: and I get a fan if you don't know who
Speaker 1: you are with me. I just looked like this. That's
Speaker 1: that one says no bit. Okay, y'all already know y'all
Speaker 1: see that to look at me laugh, I'm laughing, laugh
Speaker 1: with me. We thank you guys, Thank you Mark, thank
Speaker 1: you James. If we appreciate your points of view. We're
Speaker 1: going on for another year, and we thank you guys
Speaker 1: for staying with us. Thank you, thank you. I'll be
Speaker 1: working with Stephen Kobe. I'm gonna put these titties on
Speaker 1: Stephen then start the fun fucking build mine. I thank
Speaker 1: you flame as, we appreciate you all. Thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us. I listened. The interview comes out tomorrow on
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Make sure you watch it and you
Speaker 1: judge for yourself what you think. And because what I
Speaker 1: did not do was go off the cuff because my
Speaker 1: manager this help of our here and Ms Claire and
Speaker 1: Sam Matelo along with some of you other Flame, Miss Bobby,
Speaker 1: Miss Jess Jane was like flame, you can't always give
Speaker 1: them what they want. Sometimes you have to remember that
Speaker 1: there's a bigger fish to fry. And I did remember
Speaker 1: that there was a bigger fish to fry. You judge
Speaker 1: me off of a picture that you haven't even seen
Speaker 1: the interview, Baby, I don't know what to tell y'all. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it was almost like I was giving you back your
Speaker 1: own advice, because you always tell me. Even when I
Speaker 1: started doing life and learned with you, you were like, Lauren,
Speaker 1: to look at them comments. I still look look at
Speaker 1: them anyway, but you were like, if you look at them,
Speaker 1: don't internalize them. So the same thing with you, don't
Speaker 1: feed into the negativity. And I'm glad that you didn't.
Speaker 1: For the interview. You had the interview how you wanted
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Speaker 1: to make that I'm so comfortable with me that I
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