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Speaker 1: Dan hands us along with Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: with you, let's unpack this a real stunner for a

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you scapegoat Eli Manning for what

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna be talking about today. Monday Night football

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427
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Speaker 1: It keeps to leave already wins it. Keep to leave

428
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 1: already owns that chain because Mike Crabtree is in the

429
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: locker room staring at the mirror with like masking tape

430
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,239
Speaker 1: or gorilla glue. Whatever he was using to keep that

431
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: chain from like flashing Intelipe's face didn't work. How is

432
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: Crabtree's mind on the game on any level? To leave

433
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: as a faster tactician brain warfare he has accepted. He

434
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Speaker 1: just cost himself is brain war more than a million dollars,

435
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Like he literally just took a million and a million

436
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: I think one point to five million is what he

437
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: earns in two game checks. And he just set that

438
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: on fire for being basically a child and the crab

439
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: Tree and to leap suspensions I think happened because if

440
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: they weren't suspended, they were just going to fight every

441
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: time they ever played like what you like, maybe it

442
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: gets reduced down to one, but like at some point

443
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: it's like, we get it, guys. You guys are just

444
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,239
Speaker 1: gonna fight every time you play it. You kind of

445
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 1: have to stop them from doing that. And it's incredibly

446
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: I guess you could say selfish, because the Raiders are

447
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: terrible in terms of the receiver position, their third and

448
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: fourth receivers. They're still in the playoff race, and they're

449
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: losing crab Tree, like that's a big loss. He was not.

450
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,239
Speaker 1: He was not thinking about any of that. You know

451
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: when he was when you have Marshawn Lynch is the

452
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: most mature person in the situation. This is something that's

453
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Speaker 1: completely out of him. That's fair and yeah, the my

454
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Speaker 1: final thought on it is when do face each other again,

455
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: she's gonna wear the necklace again. Too deep? Now he's

456
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: in way too deep. I would just player up. I

457
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: would wear as many as possible. Wearing the chain was

458
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: like his these colors don't run moment I would put

459
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I would just do layers and layers and

460
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: layers and tape. I'm talking like packing tape over this

461
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: really had no choice if anything. Taping it on was

462
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: was almost you're right, kind of caving instantly because he

463
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: wears a chain every game. That's his that's his tradition,

464
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: that's his routine. And if he was gonna he was

465
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: just about to do and he's like, no, I can't

466
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: wear it because it's a leave. It's like you you

467
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: did already lose. He took he took some of his agency.

468
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Speaker 1: I wrote about that on the end around. Please check

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Speaker 1: it out. Let's move on. Mike Tomlin. Oh, Mikey Tomlin.

470
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Speaker 1: He is like, you know, I like this because Mike

471
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Speaker 1: Tomlins he's not giving the typical coach speak. Uh. He

472
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Speaker 1: feels that this upcoming massive titanic matchup that's coming in

473
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Speaker 1: week fifteen between the Patriots and Steelers, it will likely

474
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen, but it has

475
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: a good chance of determining who has home field advantage

476
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: throughout the a f C playoffs. And Tomlin was speaking

477
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Speaker 1: with Tony Dungee. This is a good move by NBC

478
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: because to get these guys to say anything set him

479
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: up with somebody has a lot of history with Dungee

480
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: started Tomlin's career. Yeah, and Dungee not only that, said

481
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: don't before it started, he said, don't give me the

482
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Speaker 1: coach speak answers. He was like, Dungee is a broadcasting

483
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Speaker 1: pro if there was one ever to go that far.

484
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: But you are also being sarcastic, So no, I think

485
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: he's and this was a step forward in Dungee's broadcasting career.

486
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Speaker 1: Let's that I think that's to be blunt about it,

487
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: but in this case, nice job, Tony. Um. Here's what

488
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: he said. Here's what Tomlins said. I'm going to embrace

489
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. The game, referring to that

490
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: week fifteen tilt is going to be fireworks, and it's

491
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Speaker 1: probably going to be part one that's gonna be a

492
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: big game, but probably if we're both doing what we're

493
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: supposed to do, the second one is really going to

494
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: be a big game. Then what happens in the first

495
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: is going to set up the second one, which is

496
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: going to determine the location of the second one. I've

497
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: been saying this. I'm not I'm not a genius or anything,

498
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: but I've been saying this all year. All the Steelers

499
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: chances going back to this training camp was to get

500
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: a better record than the Patriots or somehow have the

501
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: head to head tiebreaker because I don't think they have

502
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: a chance in Gillette in the last in that playoff game.

503
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: But we'll see. And I love him saying all this

504
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: to Tony Dungee, and it is a window into how

505
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: different the Patriots and the Steelers organizations are because I

506
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: don't even think Bill Belichick not only would he not

507
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: say this. I I genuine he wouldn't do the interview

508
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: to start with, right, I genuinely he does interviews with

509
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee just doesn't say anything. I don't think he

510
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: honestly would see would believe this. And maybe it's not

511
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: a big deal, but maybe this is kind of the

512
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: reason why the Steelers go out on the road and

513
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: they stink it up against bad teams because you take

514
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: on the personality or coach. He is saying, basically, we're

515
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: going to the a f C Championship game. We should

516
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, like that's basically what he's saying. He's like, right,

517
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: But after the interview Dungee, they said they made the

518
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: same point. Why is why is why is he going

519
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: on here Mike Tomlin and saying all this this is

520
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: too much? Why are you putting your team in this position?

521
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: Dungee said, Look at the Patriots have been good for

522
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: two decades. When I was a coach with Indianapolis, I

523
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: saw it the same way. There's no way that you

524
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: don't see New England sitting down the run. They're the

525
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: one on the top of the mountain. Belchi doesn't have

526
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: to look down the mountain at the Houston Texans and

527
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and all these teams. I love that

528
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: he said this. I love that we finally got to

529
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: hear like some honesty and he was completely But is

530
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: it probably part one? If I'm if I'm a Steelers fan,

531
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's probably gonna be part one.

532
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: I think there's well it's part one. We don't know

533
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: if they'll be a part two. And I'm not sure

534
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: that that was the part that that struck me was

535
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: the part two. But this is just part one. The

536
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: big game is gonna be the second one. By the way,

537
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: part two might end the way every other Part two

538
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: seems to end when the Steelers played the Page Tree it.

539
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: So let's calm down a little. Uh finally, Uh, the

540
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: Indianapolis culture having a tough season. They are on the

541
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: outside looking in, uh in the playoff picture, a number

542
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: of difficult losses where they just we just talked about

543
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday Show, Greg, you brought it up how many

544
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: near misses they've had, and they could really be in

545
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs if they closed out some games, but they haven't,

546
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: so they're not really in the mix. And you add

547
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: to the fact that Andrew Luck has missed the entire season.

548
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: Tough year for Chuck Pagano, who probably won't survive this um,

549
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: good chance. He is one of the coaches that goes

550
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: on Black Monday, which, by the way, Black Monday is

551
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: on New Year's Day this year. Perfect for anyone strapped

552
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 1: to a news desk. That will be a celebration. I mean,

553
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: we're all kind of aged out of like wild New

554
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: Year's Eve shenanigans, but the NFL is making sure we're

555
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: buttoned up this year. It's like we'll do six team

556
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: games on Christmas Eve and you're a cute little podcast

557
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: that will take you later into the night and then

558
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: the next morning get up because it's Black Monday. Well,

559
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: the only thing that might help us a little because

560
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: I feel like the whole concept at all of this, Oh,

561
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: it's ten am on Monday. Let's start firing everyone. We

562
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: hear about of these moves beforehand, now or after it

563
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: comes out, it comes out throughout the week. You're right,

564
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: Although I think it's been it's been a long time.

565
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: I mean New Year's I feel like New Year's Day

566
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: is always an NFL day, or it has been for

567
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: many years. Here, Um, Anyway, So Chuck Pgano has had

568
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: a tough season and he's at his Monday presser. He

569
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: seemed loose. He seemed almost a guy that maybe was

570
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: resigned to his fate and was just shooting from the cuff, saying,

571
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: if you're shooting, you're it's from the hip. That's where

572
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: the gun is comfrom you. Yeah, the gun isn't really

573
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: related to the cuff. It's coming off the hip where

574
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: the whole st shooting from the hip. You keep your

575
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: guns in your cups. But if you're shooting from the hip,

576
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: that means you're just like you don't care. Yeah, it's

577
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, you're just doing it

578
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: from down there. You're just kind of like bam boom. Alright, Anyway,

579
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: here's Pagano. Here is what I call a monologue from Pagano.

580
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Some people might say it's a meltdown. I don't think

581
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: that's fair. Here's Chuck Pagano's monologue about um when asked

582
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: by a reporter if he's concerned that all these losses

583
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: will lead to some type of mental blockade for his team. Yeah, yeah,

584
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: that song we played, you know, woke up to that

585
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: this morning. That's sunny and share Huht asked about right, yeah,

586
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: when down got my coffee, said a load of what's

587
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: her names? A little gallot and the coffee shop on

588
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: the back of the truck. Drove my truck off that,

589
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, into the tor pit or whatever. The landfill

590
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: jumped off a building lives through it. Did you see

591
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: the movie? Do you ever see the movie Groundhog Day?

592
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: What do you guys? Do you spend so much time

593
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter? You're not enjoying the better things than life.

594
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: It's a great movie, things like jumping off building. I

595
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: jumped off of the roof at my home. It's not

596
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: going to with a great summary in the movie ground Hockey.

597
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: It's it's everybody, you guys, the fans, it's everybody driving

598
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: up there. It's everybody in the NFL community. Okay, there's

599
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: a storm in the atlant whatever you wanna call it.

600
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: When you're gonna hit the last me a little bit.

601
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: This is kind of like Hurricane Pogano in general. It's

602
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: coming third core, middle of the third, it's getting late

603
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: third or upten. Gotta happen sometime. It's a sell fulfilling prophecy,

604
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, So the hurricane of them blowing leads. Yes, okay,

605
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: got it? I follow it is and and what what's

606
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: got to happen is you know, being a lammy for

607
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: six years, when them storms start coming to Africa, the

608
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: coast of Africa, and then there's coming to the Atlantic

609
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: and they start coming up. What is you get if

610
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: you get a nor east right, you get a storm

611
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: up top before everybody has a buddy that's way more

612
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: weather before. That's how is my favorite? Who's the best

613
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: dude down there doing weather? Or do that? Huh? So?

614
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: When when it comes down talking about the storm, that's

615
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: right and it pushes the storm weary knows to see

616
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: right and it goes up the coast and there's very

617
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: little damage those rings that expends this way and bands

618
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: up top of the most of the ageous bands, they're

619
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: far enough outs. When when when this starts to happen,

620
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: film your tail off. I love it. Um what you

621
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: gotta respond? We need a storm to blow in and

622
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: push that doesn't hit land. I feel like I don't

623
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: know he wants the story. I've been there's coming, but

624
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: they need to push back. I don't know, Mark. You

625
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: had a stern face about that press cover two words

626
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: sleep deprivation. But I come out of it. It is funny.

627
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: I find I feel a little concerned for the guy,

628
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Like if I were one of his children, I would

629
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: be right on the phone to dad asking are you okay?

630
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Because it's like something was not right about that. We've

631
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: watched thousand press conferences from him, and I just think

632
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: that we're going to find out that something's not all

633
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: right there. I know, I know no one agrees with me.

634
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I guess, oh, I actually agree with you it all.

635
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: But like at the beginning, he's he's recapping groundhog Day,

636
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: it's a bit. I mean that no one really got

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Speaker 1: the bit in the room. I don't think maybe a

638
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: couple of the older guys did you know? That was

639
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: a bit and there was nothing weird about it, just

640
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: didn't totally land once he got into the weather thing.

641
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't. I wasn't sure like where that

642
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: was going in terms of his overall was like a

643
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: nervous public speaker, though completely spending on control. But he's

644
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: spoken in public seven thousand times, so I just I

645
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: am baffled by the performance. The reporters, the reporters who

646
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: know him well and around him every day. Actually believe

647
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: he's having fun. In the last two or three weeks,

648
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: he's kind of yeah that he's kind of he knows

649
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: where he is, he's gonna get fired, and that he's

650
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: basically doesn't care anymore. That he's just like he's Dennis

651
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Miller at the end of the tennis seen who he is.

652
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: Like that is Chuck Bagano. He's a little loopy. Alright, dude,

653
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and do that. Dude. That's let's uh, let's move on.

654
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Good job, Chuck. That's some fun out there, Chuck. That's good.

655
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: Storm bands were out there, do weather. I like the

656
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: assumption that the sports reporters in the room have a

657
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: weather back. If you cover anything, you cover everything. All right,

658
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. All right, now it's time.

659
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we teased it. Oh one last thing the

660
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: news before we move on. Greg, you have some sandwiches

661
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: because Darrell Reeves signed with the Chiefs, so we didn't

662
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: get a chance to talk about that last But it

663
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: was a bit of a instant karma scenario because you

664
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: threw some shade at me, some skyscraper shade on Twitter

665
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: that I was going to be making some sandwiches, and

666
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: Darrell Rivers got a job and he gotta even though

667
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: it's a we got we got banged on the counter

668
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: or multi year contracts sandwich wager he made that we

669
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: took him on because it's not a real multi year deal.

670
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Good job by Connor, who kinda was well it was

671
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: karmick payback. Mark randomly threw it through a tweet out there,

672
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: very randomly that Darrell Rivas was just walking along a river,

673
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: like what is he doing? I just said that he's

674
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: with six million in his pocket. He's sort of floating

675
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: along the Hudson River doing whatever he wants, not no

676
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: need to work, And where did I would think he

677
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: would ever have been signed this year based on the

678
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: whole continent. And I respond to respond, I responded saying, yeah,

679
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: maybe he's going to pick up some of those sandwiches

680
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: and the next day kind of pick up those sandwiches

681
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: for me. Uh and uh, the very next day he

682
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: gets signed. So that hurts me. I mean, it doesn't

683
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: hurt as much um as it hurts the Jets to

684
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: be paying him five point five million dollars to play

685
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: against them this week. But it hurts, Yeah, like the

686
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Jets scare. They actually made Yeah, they made likes, they

687
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: made out great. They gave him one of the worst

688
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: contracts in the last ten years. He can hang out

689
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: with brock Oswell talk about found money. We you know,

690
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: you lose a sandwich bet and then you try to

691
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: turn around into jets flaming. Yeah, pretty good tactic. Good Jet,

692
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: I'll enjoy your sandwich. Let's now move on to Oh yeah,

693
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: hot takes destroyedsting. I find that enjoyable. I feel like

694
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: that guy's in the in the same room as the

695
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: hot butt guy that was actually Chuck. That was Chuck

696
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Fagano in the shower this morning. Um, alright, anyway, Hot

697
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Takes Destroyed. What we're gonna do is what's some popular

698
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: um thoughts logic out there in the football Gagna sent

699
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: and We're going to really destroy those hot takes. And

700
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you, Greg Rosenthal. Uh yeah, we're

701
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna mix it up here, keep you on your toes. Um,

702
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: what hot take would you like to destroy as we

703
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: head down the home stretch of regular season? The hot

704
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: take I want to destroy is the Russell Wilson for

705
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: m VP bandwagon that is starting up the Hey like

706
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: I know, you guys are really into you know, Tom

707
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Brady and Carson Wentz. But Russell Wilson to me is

708
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: more valuable than to his team than anyone else, Like

709
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: he is carrying he needs to be in the conversation.

710
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: First of all, you don't you don't need to have

711
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: a conversation. You only vote for one player, You don't

712
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: vote for five players in the conversation is nonsense. When

713
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: you have two players that are far in a way

714
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: the best two players in the league, you don't need

715
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: to have a conversation. You don't need to come up

716
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: with like another cute sort of like hey, but you

717
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: didn't think of this. It's Russell Wilson, Like he's really

718
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: doing it this year, Like this is how we end

719
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: up with Derrick Rose for m v P over Lebron

720
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: James in the middle of his prime. This is how

721
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: we end up with I don't know Crash as the

722
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: best Oscar winner. Like you don't need you don't need

723
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: to come up with like a clever reason and the

724
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: whole reasoning here with Russell Wilson, it's like who's more

725
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: important to his team than Russ than that's the who's

726
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: more valuable? Who is more valuable to I'll tell you

727
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is more valuable, like of course, of course

728
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is more valuable. Him and are having two

729
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: of the best seasons any quarterbacks had in the last

730
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: ten or twelve years. Like Russell Wilson season is not

731
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: even in the ballpark of that. Russell Wilson has had

732
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: two or three games. He's having a great year. He's

733
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: number three I think in the league. So it's not,

734
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, destroying Russell Wilson. The other two guys have

735
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: been great week after week after week. People are like, well,

736
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have an offensive line, like he's

737
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: not being helped like okay, or running game. That's absolutely true.

738
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Speaker 1: He is. He does have a defense, and he does

739
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: have a very good I mean he like sec. He

740
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: has a very solid defense over the course of the season,

741
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: and they're fine. He does have a good wide receiver group.

742
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: How about make your offensive line better? Like people say, like, okay,

743
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: like you have to make your teammates better. You don't

744
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: think Tom Bradys Harris and Nate Solder and all those

745
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: guys better because of what he does as a quarterback,

746
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: like he makes them better. He makes Danny Amandola better.

747
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: He makes Chris Hogan better. Russell Wilson makes his receivers

748
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: better too. But that's a great group of receivers. Look

749
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: at the receivers when they leave Seattle, Golden Tate, Jermaine Curse,

750
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: like those are good players. Russell Wilson's incredible. But I

751
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way you could look at on

752
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: a week to week basis he's anywhere in the same

753
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: ball Greg this it's not a strong man day. A

754
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: week ago, the NFL's Twitter account tweeted out, Russell Wilson

755
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: equals m v P chat and your boy Evan Silva

756
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: days ago tweeted the same thing. That's his m VP votes.

757
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: So it's not a strong man I'll give you that. Yeah,

758
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: I've seen it a lot. I mean the amount of

759
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: scrimmage yards that he's eighty two point five per cent

760
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: of scrimmage yards on Seattle's offense, that is what he

761
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: is accounted for. That's the highest amount of He doesn't

762
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have a run, but that's what that is.

763
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: And it is kind of a tired cliche of a

764
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: conversation like, all right, but who's the most valuable? And

765
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I that from that standpoint, if all right, let's best

766
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: case scenario for the Seahawks. They win out and go

767
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: eleven and five and Wilson plays out of his mind,

768
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: it ends up with thirty six touchdowns and seven under

769
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: yards rushing and eight touchdowns on the ground, that type

770
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: of like monster, multi head monster season. Like yeah, I

771
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: think he could be in the conversation against maybe the

772
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time, probably having his best season

773
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: or one of his best seams. That's the whole point is,

774
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: Went and Brady are having unbelievably transcendent seasons that I

775
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: think if you if we watched him week after week

776
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: and Brady maybe doesn't get the love because he's Tom

777
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Brady and you're used to it, Like this is better

778
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: than he's ever been, And yes he's carrying them, but

779
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: he A lot of those sacks are on Russell Wilson.

780
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 1: Their offense is constructed in a way where the point

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00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: of it is for him to just run around and

782
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: kind of make things up as they go, Like they

783
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: don't really run a normal offense. That's picking on Russell

784
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Wilson last. I mean, Russell Wilson is a total magician,

785
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: So I can see why some people feel this way.

786
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: Another another option to be to be less attached to

787
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: these postseason awards, which I feel a little this frivolous. Again,

788
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: that's fair. It's a hot take. Maybe it has been nitpicking,

789
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be about going against Russell Wilson because

790
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: I think he's the third best player in the league,

791
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: the third best quarterback. Like he's having an incredible season.

792
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: It's just recognizing that the he's the third best and

793
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: it's not crazy that I think big chunk of people

794
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: would see him at the end. I think it is

795
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: because the other two are so far in away having

796
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: much better season. It's not just that the teams are better.

797
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: It's that they're better on a week the week basis. Alright, uh,

798
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: Connie Europe next, alright, great job destroying that. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I think that that was there. We go, Chuck, take

800
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: it easy, man, take take a vacation. Live in the sea, Yes,

801
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: live in the sea. That's the happy Chuck that the

802
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: reporters are talking about. Right there, got you? Okay, my hotache,

803
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm taking down right now. You know I've been hearing well, no,

804
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: you're not taking it down. Well, I'm destroying it okay.

805
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: The hot ache that I am destroying right now is

806
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: that Eagles head coach Doug Peterson is too much of

807
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: a bro. I say, he's just the right amount of

808
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: bro okay. Like you might have the wine and cheese crowd,

809
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: the coastal elites out there, who's saying, oh no, like

810
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: you and your visor and your flip flops, what you're

811
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: doing right now. It's but real Americans like me, you

812
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: know that it's just right. And I don't know if

813
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: you guys heard the press conference yesterday from I'm in

814
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: the dark right now and I'm happy Eagles head coach

815
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. But let's let's take a listen. In case

816
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: you missed it. Jeffrey said at the beginning of the

817
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: year that the young quarterback when he starts his first year,

818
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, learns what he learns. The second yeary makes

819
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: a few more steps, but his third year, fourth year

820
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: is when he kind of explodes. Have we seen maybe

821
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: a premature explosion or is there still an explosion? Um?

822
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's we're a day for press conferences. Wait,

823
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: but he lost he lost it again. He couldn't get

824
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: it together a seconds. This is my favorite part about

825
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, the fact that he did what all of

826
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: us would have done if we were asked that question.

827
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Hayes asked that premature explosion. Right, My, my hot

828
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: take is, you know this is on Marcus Hayes. I mean,

829
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: how can you say that out out to Marcus Hayes.

830
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean, I feel like Belichick is

831
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: not gonna laugh, but it would be in Marvin Lewis

832
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: isn't gonna laugh. There's a lot of people that wouldn't.

833
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: But that's a tough one to handle. That was special,

834
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: but not get it together. After that question, it was

835
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: a solid forty five seconds of just like silence and

836
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: him laughing, and the entire press room just broke out

837
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: and laughter. All right, So now just deconstructed, deconstructing a

838
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Is there some type of opinion out there

839
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: that he was too much of a bro there, too

840
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: much of a bro that that was part of it,

841
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: and that you know, he needs he needs to be

842
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: more of a professional and he shouldn't be laughing. There

843
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: are a lot of people, many people out there are

844
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: saying this, and I am saying that they are wrong.

845
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: I feel like Sean mcveighs a little BROI and that's

846
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: working out Rams and with Peterson. You spent half his

847
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: career hanging out in a quarterback room with Brett Farve.

848
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean not to be like a Washington Post reporter

849
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: or anything, but is gonna dig a little deeper? All right,

850
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: let's do it, um these people. Are there any specific

851
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: people you can mention that maybe said Doug Peterson too

852
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: much of a bro? Sports writer was married. NFL Media

853
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: broadcast Wolf John, who was a pie Chiefs resides in

854
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles with his wife and Dawn, specifically said that

855
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: this was a conversation at the Ringer yesterday that Doug

856
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: Peterson was too much of a bro. I'm destroying it now,

857
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: it's destroying all right, I'll go next. Good job, Connie

858
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: took that one down, took down the whole Ringer office

859
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: to eat it. Ringer. This is going to be great.

860
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Um okay, I will. I am going to destroy the

861
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: hot take that the Chiefs are done, that the chief

862
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: season is over, and I get it. Okay, that's that's

863
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs right there. That's how it fields. If you

864
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: are a Chiefs fan right now, like you're burning to death.

865
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is the Chiefs are

866
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: never as good as they were week one through five,

867
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: and they're not as bad as they have been from

868
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is week seven to week twelve or whatever

869
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: it's been like. So I believe there will be a

870
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: little course correction here. I think a lot of people

871
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: there's a sense now, a lot of people, the ringers

872
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: talking about it. I'm sure, um there's a sense that

873
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: the Chiefs now are in a free fall, and that

874
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: certainly could happen. But when I really take a step back,

875
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: do you want to just be a slave to what's

876
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: happening in the moment or do you want to realize

877
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: how these seasons go up and down like a roller coaster.

878
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: And I think that the head coach, who I trust,

879
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, to see them out of this. The quarterback, now,

880
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: do I think Patrick Mahomes maybe maybe could help this

881
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: team at this point a shot in the arm. Yes,

882
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: But also the West take that Alex Smith is having

883
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: a great season on balance and to stick with him

884
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: that is probably the more prudent move right now and

885
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 1: let the veteran quarterback in, the veteran coach and those

886
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: good skillmakers and Kareem Hunt to come out of his slum.

887
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: It's certainly more possible to me that they get things

888
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: straightened out and win ten or eleven games rather than

889
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: they end up going six and ten. Yeah, so I

890
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: am flaming that hot take that it's time to take

891
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs out of consideration and not even to think

892
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: about that. I'm not saying that at the Patriots level

893
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: or the Steelers level, but to now say, oh yeah,

894
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: put everybody in there. Put the Ravens and they put

895
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: the Bangles in there, put the Chargers in there, everybody

896
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: calmed down. The Chiefs aren't dead. I'm with you because

897
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: a they're winning the division, a bad division, they're a

898
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: game up, and they are. But if they don't, if

899
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: you don't win the division in one of these teams,

900
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: you're probably probably not going to be a wild card team.

901
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Who knows though, but Kansas City, if you want to

902
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: pick a team that is showing you that they can

903
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: get out of a slump, and as you said, course correct,

904
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: they'd be down. The definition of over. It's not how

905
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: far they're going to go to the season. I don't

906
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: bring up the Charges is a perfect example. I get it.

907
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: Everyone loves the chart Argers now, and they've been playing

908
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: very well on both sides of the ball last few weeks.

909
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: But let's not now pencil them into surge into January

910
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: when the Chiefs are still on the picture or not.

911
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm very as a as a longtime Chargers a homer

912
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: on this podcast really that I've been wrong a million

913
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: times about Like I'm uncomfortable with the idea that now

914
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: like they're the favorites, like they're the expected team. Like

915
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: what could go wrong with a five and six Chargers

916
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: team that's a game behind trying to get into the

917
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: playoff right? Like it just lock it up and the

918
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs don't play a team with a winning record the

919
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: rest of the season. They at least they at least

920
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: have a chance to beat bad teams like the Jets

921
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: or the Broncos and win a cup at home against Raiders,

922
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: home against Chargers, huge matchup in week fifteen home against Dolphins,

923
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: and then at Broncos. So that is a nice schedule.

924
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: They couldn't do anything the Giants and or the Bills.

925
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: If they stay at this level, they're gonna be lucky

926
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: to win one more game. I'm just saying I think

927
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm more confident that they find a way out of

928
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: this funk. I think people want them to be over

929
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: with the way they're playing right now more than most

930
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: people believe that. But I couldn't agree more with your

931
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: because the chart the playoffs would be more fun with

932
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: charge chargers, like we gotta flex the Ravens out of

933
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs too. I feel like that's but that's the

934
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: next movement hashtag flex Ravens gonna get one of these,

935
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: one of I guess you're gonna have be stuck with.

936
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm not buying the Ravens at all. Did that take

937
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: get destroyed? It's I think you wiped it out. Goodbye,

938
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: it's out. It's Mark, all right, close us out, destroy take?

939
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: Now all about this over? You see this everywhere on Twitter.

940
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: People think the NFL is free. People think the NFL

941
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: is free of witchcraft. I see this everywhere on Twitter.

942
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: This hot take is going down right now. Nonsense. I'm

943
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: here to tell you that a twenty plus year dark

944
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: magic curse has draped itself over the National Football League.

945
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: But once Mark is reading from a script. Whenever Mark's

946
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: reading from a script, something's going to go down. Well,

947
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: especially when it's two pages that's let's try to get

948
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: through it. People. Everyone get comfortable. Let's try to get

949
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: through it. One that all right, I'm gonna have to

950
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: go back here, and well, I have to tell you

951
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: that there is a twenty plus year dark magic curse

952
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: that has draped itself over the NFL, one that has

953
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: brought a magical streak of happiness to Patriots fans who

954
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: have come to believe they deserve it, and endless insane

955
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: heartbreak to Browns fans. Dan Hansas came closest to the

956
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: truth by suggesting that Cleveland's football complex and burrilla is

957
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: built above an Indian burial ground. But it goes much deeper.

958
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: I am preparing to release a two hundred and twenty

959
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: page report on this, but some basic bulleted bulleted details.

960
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: One January one, Bill Belichick's Browns beat Bill parcels Is

961
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: Patriots thirteen in the a f C Wild Card Game.

962
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: Remember that fact. Cleveland enters next season viewed as the

963
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: a f C favorite for the Super Bowl. But nine

964
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: months later, Brown's owner Art Model announces the move to Baltimore,

965
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: and annoyed Bill Belichick is summarily dis smissed as Brown's

966
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: coach and immediately joins parcels Is in New England as

967
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: assistant head coach of the Patriots. In the Browns no

968
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: longer exist as a football team, spinning only in darkness.

969
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: Months later, Parcels and Belichick go onto the Super Bowl

970
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: thirty one with the Patriots. Fast forward three seasons to

971
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: the Browns return to the NFL to begin a run

972
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: of failure unlike any suffered by any team in NFL

973
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: history following that season. Months later, in the year two thousand,

974
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is named head coach of the Patriots. Months later,

975
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: Belichick quietly drafts Tom Brady, a college backup. They win

976
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl one year later. Meanwhile, the Browns are

977
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: already onto their second head coach and pondering a quarterback switch.

978
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: This hext inverse relationship between Cleveland and New England is

979
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: only strengthened in two thousand two. Cleveland's only sad playoff

980
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: appearance since the wild card win over the Patriots in

981
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: comes yes in two thousand two, the year the Patriots

982
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: supper risingly missed the playoffs. It is New England's overtime

983
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: loss to the Dolphins in Week seventeen that directly helps

984
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: propel the Browns into the postseason. Since then, the Patriots

985
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: have used one coach and one starting quarterback to author

986
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: the greatest run in football history. Since then, the Browns

987
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: have been the dictionary definition of the opposite, the yin

988
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: and the yang, the dark in the light, shuffling through

989
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: seventy five head coaches and a hundred and ninety six quarterbacks.

990
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: One inexplicable blip on the radar came when Eric Mangini,

991
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: the man who came closest to revealing the evil secrets

992
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: behind the Patriots Dark Empire, took over as Cleveland's coach.

993
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: In two thousand ten, Man Genius authored one of the

994
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: weirdest NFL results over the past decade, a thirty four

995
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: to fourteen Browns romp over Brady and the Patriots. This

996
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: unusual victory came on November seven, fifteen years earlier. The

997
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: Browns move was announced twenty four hours previous on November six.

998
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: The hex was nearly broken, but the Patriots in Belichick

999
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: held strong. One final paradigm shift recently revealed itself. Cleveland's

1000
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: pursuit of Jimmy Garoppolo nearly came to fruition this past

1001
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: off season when Jimmy G announced farewell to New England

1002
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: with a late night Instagram post. The curse held strong, though,

1003
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: was the post was quickly and mysteriously erased, Jimmy G

1004
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: claiming that hackers posted it, and the trade didn't happen,

1005
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: not until Belichick intentionally prevented Garoppolo from going to its

1006
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: inverse identity, Cleveland, New England's polar opposite, instead shipping the

1007
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: prize quarterback to San Francisco. Hope you have enjoyed at

1008
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: Patriots fans whoa watching your faces during that was? Really

1009
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: that's just the beginning of it. It goes deeper than that.

1010
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait, there was witchcraft. But then sometimes the

1011
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: Browns win over the Patriots. How is that related to

1012
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: the witchcraft? They came close. There have been struggles to

1013
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: reverse the switchcraft. And where was he? Where is the

1014
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: proof of the witchcraft? Man Jennie who knew about you

1015
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: know who understands how New England operates behind the scene,

1016
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: and came very close to bringing that whole thing down.

1017
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: Became Cleveland's head coach and up against New England, had

1018
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: a chance to reverse it all destroys New England. Romeo

1019
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: Cornell was always on the outside a little too happy,

1020
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: go lucky, and New England loses that game to Cleveland.

1021
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: What do they do They rip off ten straight wins

1022
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: to end the season or something like that. So the

1023
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: hot take destroyed. Is that the NFL is free of witchcraft? Yes?

1024
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: And it is not there they go, I mean that,

1025
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: I have no counter argument. Are they talking about that

1026
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: at the Ringer too? We should bug the ring you

1027
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: know how they like in Watergate, didn't they Buggy or

1028
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: Nixon used to bug the White House. He also had

1029
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: his phone calls recording, which was building. I don't even

1030
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: know why we would need to bug the Ringer's office.

1031
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Maybe that's where the witchcraft is coming from.

1032
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: The Ringer has help how many years old? Four five?

1033
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: It's pretty new, So now I think that's that's that's newer.

1034
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: This is just be it's the stage back to the

1035
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: the witchcraft of the mid nineties, which I don't approve of.

1036
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: But you know who works or the movie on the

1037
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: Ringer is Michael Lombardi. Yes, he was a former Brown's employee,

1038
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: such as was your dad, Lindsay, I used to miche Lombardi.

1039
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm still struggling to see where the kernels of the

1040
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: Patriots fan I understand why you're going to be the

1041
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: stronghold of doubt and refusing to believe anything beyond the

1042
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: facts here. So you're basically taking down Gregs. No, not

1043
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 1: at all, I think the I think that Patriots fans

1044
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: simply believe this. Oh it's like how many times we

1045
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: cited Belichick's genius on the show already before my statement

1046
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: five six. Today it's all assumed that it's Bell the chicken.

1047
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Everything's perfect, But for two thousand two, it just sort

1048
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: of stopped for a minute for some reason. There's attempts

1049
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: to reverse it, attempts to reverse it. Things almost become undone,

1050
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: and then they go spin back if it's not strong enough.

1051
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: There you go, four for four, hot takes debunk maybe destroyed.

1052
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: Very powerful, very powerful, very painful for the people that

1053
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 1: held held those hot takes close to their heart because

1054
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: they no longer exist. Alright, real quick. Thursday Night Football preview.

1055
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: Um oh oh, I guess what it is? The shoulders

1056
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: A greatness presented my head and shoulders. Thursday Night Football,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys at Redskins. Mark. I wanna call this a

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00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: loser goes home match. But we just did that with

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00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Chargers last Thursday. So is this just

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00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: a loser match of mediocrity. I mean, it's it's I

1061
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: think the one thing that we probably agree on is

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00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: that I wish the Redskins were in the a f

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00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: C because I think they could get a playoff spot.

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: They're still fun to watch in my opinion. The Cowboys,

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00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: they've really statistically and just you know, in terms of

1066
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: the eye test, has spun completely out of control since

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00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott left the building and they had Tyron Smith

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00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: last back last week. It didn't really make much a

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00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: difference in terms of their passing game, their offensive production,

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00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: and any chance to think that they're going to go

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00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: on some sort of a streak to save their season

1072
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: in my book, Yeah, I mean we saw in that

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00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: game Zach Martin go down to on the offensive line.

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00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: We knew that they were sort of struggling already, but

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00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: he's practicing now, so that's good. We know. I don't

1076
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: think Shawn Lee is going to play in this game.

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00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: But on the defensive side of things, um, but Anthony

1078
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: Hitchens is expected to practice a little bit. I mean,

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00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: their defense is so banged up right now. So if

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00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: they don't have Hitchens out there either, that could be

1081
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: a major problem. Been part of the problem. Teams are

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: spending keeping the Cowboys defense on the field a long time,

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00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: kind of using the Cowboys approach how they used beat

1084
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: teams where they're just loading up on long drive time

1085
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: of possession. That's exactly what the Redskins do well. And

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00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: the Redskins defense have been playing better lately. Junior Gallet

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00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: is playing really well the last three or four weeks

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00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: in the pass rush. And you have him, you have Karagan,

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00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: you have a really good corner back group. And it's

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00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: not a good matchup for Dak Prescott and Dez Bryant,

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: who are struggling to get anything done. This is they're

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: both five and six both teams, so they're not technically

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00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: out of it. I think the Red the Redskins, it

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: would be kind of crazy if they won six straight

1095
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs, but crazier things have happened,

1096
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: including in Washington. You could win out and still missed

1097
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs. A tenant six in the end NFC, but

1098
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: you certainly can't lose again. So from that through that

1099
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: prison this game still has some meaning and it's gonna

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00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: be a desperation affair on both sides. So I think

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: there could be some juice in this game. And I

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00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: am interested to see, now that the Dak Prescott has

1103
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: really eaten some humble pie for a few weeks, how

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00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: he reacts in this game. And I think we I

1105
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be good game. I got a good

1106
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: feeling about this Thursday. I think some pier and I

1107
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: mean he's coming off a big game and I think

1108
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: it was back to back one yard games he had

1109
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: and he'll be able to run. I think it's a

1110
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: big five weeks for Dez Bryant. I think Dez Bryant

1111
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: is a huge part of the problem in Dallas. He's

1112
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: not coming up down with those fifty balls. He's getting

1113
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: paid like a superstar. I think something like I gets

1114
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: a big fifteen sixty million dollars or something this year,

1115
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: and I think he's do thirteen. I think I think

1116
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: this is hurt their team, Like I think they might

1117
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: have been a better team literally if des Bryant wasn't

1118
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: on the team, and I think they have to think

1119
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: about that going into next year. And I think how

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: he finishes off this season is going to have a

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00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: big impacts hurting the team. And it's also the Cowboys

1122
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: failing to develop another receiver to let him maybe slide

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00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: into a more maybe a number two role if that's

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00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: where he's at in his career now. They just don't

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00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: have They don't have big guy, another big guy on

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00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 1: the outside to kind of slide into that role. Maybe.

1127
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean he could go. I think Mark you made

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: a good point. I think Jason Barrett, they need to

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00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: finish the season out. Yeah, well, especially with all the

1130
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: play to on. They're frustrated with the lack of coaching,

1131
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: like with the lack of scheme changes and adjustments too.

1132
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. I'm going Skins. I'm going red Skins.

1133
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: I can't pick the Cowboys the way they look right now. Redskins,

1134
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: although I think Dallas because they practiced on Sunday. I

1135
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: think they're trying to make this a different type of

1136
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: week Washington, who they are. Both these teams are in

1137
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: the rare Thursday Thursday back to back, So they're in

1138
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: that strange sort of like their whole their whole life.

1139
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: And so Cousins one in nine now on weekdays in

1140
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: his career and just won a game on Thursday and

1141
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: now plays on Thursday again. How many quarterbacks get off

1142
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: and oh and nine weekdays schneide by winning two straight

1143
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: Thursday games. I don't think that's ever happened in NFL history.

1144
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: I think there's probably never been an oh and nine

1145
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: week days nine shot that's ever been broken either that

1146
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: County Fox. That is more NFL witchcraft. Yeah, that is.

1147
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm convinced now it's shoulders of greatness presented my head

1148
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: and shoulders all right before we go, Um, yes, Mark

1149
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: going gonna throw it to you because, of course, last

1150
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: month you found an abandoned kitten in your yard named

1151
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: Boo who did not make it, but mom kept the

1152
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: old irresponsible mom hag that she is kept showing up

1153
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: and birth the more cats. Well, okay, so let's start

1154
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: there and I'll throw it to you. Yea, they were

1155
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: probably part of the same. Yeah, if you're, if you're,

1156
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: if you're on the video show, you can see one

1157
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: of them. Is this one the one that's this this

1158
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: is a new god. Yeah. So three cats, Um, we've

1159
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: found in a little alleyway fenced in part behind our

1160
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: house and the mother. I think that the way the

1161
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: cats work feral cats, is that the mom will abandon

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: one that's just simply not fit to live. And I

1163
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: think the Boo was in that category. That's we were

1164
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: told a shelter. So the mom has come back and

1165
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: and fed these and these cats are getting stronger by

1166
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: the day, and uh, we still have to find a

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: way to get them to safety beyond our home. But

1168
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: but but in terms of blue, I'm definitely allergic. Like

1169
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Yes, it's like it's not our house

1170
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: is not a risk in the house, let's no. But

1171
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: they're like they're little kitty dand or whatever is floating

1172
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: in through windows and like I woke up like my

1173
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: left eye shut. Well you have two eyes. Yeah, that's

1174
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: that's what Simone said. So here's the thing, though, sons

1175
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: and your wife are not like cult literally asked if

1176
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: we could trade Daddy for the for boob when Boo

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01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: is still alive, which I you know, I tried not

1178
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: to take offense to, but I will say this because

1179
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Boo passed away and before we found the cats, our

1180
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: producer Lindsay had a great idea and h Lindsay will

1181
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: let why don't let you talk about it? So we

1182
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 1: thought that we would take a sad situation and turn

1183
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: it into a little bit more of a positive one.

1184
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: So we started a go fund me campaign and it's

1185
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: actually if you go to go fund me dot com

1186
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: slash a t N cat, nice and easy to remember,

1187
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: you could donate to that and all of the funds

1188
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: from that will go to the Karma Rescue. They found

1189
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: us a cat to sponsor, and his name is Jerry. Jerry,

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: that's if you're on the video show Gun that's a

1191
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: picture of Jerry. That's the cat we are sponsoring. Solid

1192
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: Cat Media too. So is Jerry drooling? No? I think

1193
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: that's his thanks, he's he's not rabid. For the record,

1194
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: that's a joke. So what perfectly fund me dot com

1195
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: slash a t N do it and we'll tweet this

1196
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: out as well. But um, yeah, we'd like to help

1197
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: them out and maybe they could help us take these

1198
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: three cats in my yard too. Yeah that would be

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Speaker 1: good because you're you know it really do all right,

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01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't let her go Alright, that's it. That's it

1201
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: for Tuesday's show. Yes, this is the video show. So

1202
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: just a reminder that uh, this evening, Um, if you

1203
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com slash a t M video

1204
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: beginning at six pm Pacific, which is nine pm Eastern,

1205
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: which is they'll figure it out overseas. Uh, you could

1206
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: check out this show and uh all the fun that

1207
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: we had today. Also a reminder that NFL Pick them

1208
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: on NFL Network airs on Saturdays at eight am Eastern,

1209
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: three pm Eastern, and eleven pm Eastern, and then Sunday

1210
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 1: morning right before uh Colleen's Game Day morning UH show

1211
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: uh six am Eastern. So that's the show. Thank you

1212
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: everyone for um following along since Dan Hanson signing off

1213
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: for a quiet storm. Connie Fox, the Old Boss, Lindsay Foulton,

1214
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: and Christian Anderson behind the glass. Thanks for the help

1215
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Speaker 1: us always tell Thursday