WEBVTT - Part Four: G. Gordon Liddy: The Fascist Behind Watergate 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:04.960 Mhm, welcome back to Behind the Bastards. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:06.520 That's your normal voice. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:07.160 Robert does it. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.640 Robert does a different voice for when he's when he's. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:15.120 But that's the actual voice. I sneakily revealed it. So 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.239 now you can ai my voice and convince my loved ones. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:25.640 I've been kidnapped and ransom. Why not it's fun not 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.600 for it will be fun ish, Yeah, because you're the 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:37.239 one who's gonna get get robbed, Sophie, I know, speaking 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.880 of things getting lost, I gotta I got something I 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.159 want to deal with here. So I got some I 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.840 got some policing we need to do here because people 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:51.720 are people are people have gotten too Twitter brained, right, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.960 And I say this as someone whouses Twitter too much. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:55.880 You know, I'm not. I'm not coming out of this 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.279 from like a moralizing standpoint, right Like I'm I'm let 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.720 me start this by saying, like I've definitely you like 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.920 have a problematic relationship with Twitter. I'm not trying to 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.240 be judgmental, but like, this shit needs to stop. And specifically, 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.640 I think that made me realize it. As we record this, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:16.200 it's like a day after the United States Marine Corps, 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.800 like an airbase announced like Hey, guys, one of our 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.720 F thirty fives went missing. The pilot leapt out during 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.120 flight for reasons that we will not explain to you, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.240 left it on autopilot, and we don't know where it is. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.039 We don't even know if it's crashed. Like, we have 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:38.040 no idea where this amazing multimillion dollar like it cost 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.800 a trillion dollars to eighty million dollars to manufacture plane win, 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:46.280 no idea. If you see it, give us a call 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.880 at this number, Like it's a cat, Like it's someone's 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.920 cat who got out. They're just like, hey, guys, mister sniffles, 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.680 the F thirty five is lost. Give us a ring 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.320 if you see him. Don't try to chase him, Like. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.240 For real, high is that possible, like that something can 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.720 be lost in airspace. I just assumed it crash when 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.760 I saw the eject and from the headline, I assumed. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.399 It probably has. But like they so, it's a stealth plane. Right. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:14.920 One of the reasons why this is the problem is 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.360 that like that is legitimately an issue. So most every 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.360 plane that's not like an army plane, right, that's not 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.040 some sort of like government you know, jet has what's 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.320 what's called an ADSB. I think that's the name of it, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.400 Like it's a transponder that lets you know where all 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.320 of the aircraft are, right, because that's important to making 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.760 sure they don't hit each other. Military and government aircraft 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.080 don't have to have that right, and if you're running 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.440 a stealth plane, you wouldn't necessarily want that on right, 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.040 So I think that's probably anyway, it doesn't matter. This 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.760 is funny, and it's it's funny. Specifically, I made a 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.720 comment online about like this being America being the only 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.160 country that could both develop you know, this fucking trillion 0:02:55.240 --> 0:03:00.600 dollar like hyperadvanced weapons platform and lose it and need 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.440 to just like go to Twitter to be like, hey, 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:06.080 everybody keep an eye out right. No other country could do, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.720 and people like a bunch of people got like angry 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.800 and started defending the like well trying to lose his 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.000 planes too. It's like that number one. It's not the 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.080 point number two. Like they're like, why are you trying to, like, 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.840 you know, defend the like why are you trying to 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.440 like attack the US government over this, or like why 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.560 are you trying to pretend the Chinese government is I'm 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.920 not doing any of that it's funny, and it's specifically 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.440 funny that we are treating a lost hyper advanced self 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.960 craft like a lost cat. That's all. That's all. Not 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.040 making a point about politics, not making a point about 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.040 like the d od not making any kind of political point. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.240 It's just kind of funny. What on Twitter has ruined 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.960 our ability to just like laugh about this stuff. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:52.400 We lost. So here's what happened. We misplaced our F 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:57.040 thirty five. Not a big deal. Not a big deal. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.720 If anyone sees that shit, hit me up the deed. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.320 Like, yeah, Like my dream is that the auto pilots 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.280 set it down safely somewhere in North Carolina and it's 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.640 just in a man's barn. Right now, some guy just 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.320 tell that ship back and it's like, I don't know, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.360 I haven't made up my mind as to how I'm 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.240 going to deal with this, but I got it now. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.679 I mean this would. Yeah, this is such a great 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:28.360 opening to an actual James Bond movie because now it's 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.039 just this person should really just in the interest of 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.200 everyone learning their lesson, try to sell it to Russia 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:34.719 at this point. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.600 Yeah, just try sure, just like a maring call the 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.479 Russian embassy. Hey, guys, I got something you might be 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:47.520 interested in. Like I will tell you right now, if 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.480 this were me, you know, if I if I lived 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.479 out in the in the boonies and gained control of 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.240 an F thirty five, the only thing that I would 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.680 do with it, because I think it's really the only 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:57.919 thing to do with it, because I don't know how 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.719 to fly a plane. I don't know that like any 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.200 normal pilot knows how to. I'm sure there's a bunch 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.960 of special training to fly this specific plane, right otherwise 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.520 it's a fucking death trap. I would just drag it out, 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.000 like tow it out into my yard every couple of 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.760 months and just shoot at it, you know, just just 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.400 fucking shoot at it with my rifles, you know, just 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.640 play around see what happens. In part because when I 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.880 would try to make friends with the AI, turn it on, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.960 see if you can talk it out, ur chat gpt 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:29.560 on it. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.080 I think we could. I think we could iron giant 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.719 it with the AI. I think you turned this one 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:40.600 into the good play super mun Yeah, there's a lot 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:41.240 of ideas. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.960 There's a lot of ideas, folks. Sometimes you need to 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.440 just be able to enjoy the world when beautiful things 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.600 happen beautiful things like the F thirty five going missing, 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.480 like like doing a homeward bound with our Apocalypse fighter 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.600 gott to get led back to home by like a 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.480 fucking rogued chinook. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.359 Yeah, yeah, so cute. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:13.760 Yeah, So we're talking about g Gordon Liddies still for 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.120 so many, so many five hours now something like that anyway, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.960 I don't mean close. Yeah, when we left off, he 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.960 had just gotten shit canned by the Treachery Department for 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:28.280 rank and competence and repeatedly comparing stuff to the Holocaust 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:29.080 for no reason. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.200 Well, it does seem pretty clear he was never fired 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.480 for the for the SS stuff. Yeah, is the weirdest 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:37.240 part of all of that. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.600 That is fair? Yeah, because like I feel like there 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:44.080 is an amount of comparing things unnecessarily to the SS 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.839 that you should be fired for. Right, I don't know 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.240 what that amount is. Precise is really low. I don't 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:55.280 think it's high, right, I think it should be once yeah, once, Yeah, 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.960 you get one freebie and then everyone's like, man, stop 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.599 falling asleep to the fucking History channel. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.240 Like comes past. He's past where I think the number 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:05.560 should be significantly. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.200 Yeah, that's good to know. I'm glad that we're I'm 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:09.960 glad that where it's like you're it's like your fucking 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:15.360 Kevin Bacon number, right, you're here your unnecessary SS references number. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.480 So Lyddy is getting forced out of the UH of 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.400 the Treasury Department. This is a real embarrassment for him, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.920 so he completely ignores it in his autobiography in favor 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.600 of telling a long story about his sons getting bullied 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.040 at school and how he taught them like, the only 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.320 way to respond to bullies is like violence is immediately 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.960 escalating to violence, And the school is like, that's not 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.280 what we like our students to do here at this 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.280 private school. We would prefer they not immediately go to violence. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.080 And his wife is also like, I don't think this 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.360 is a good lesson to give the kids, right, I 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.960 think they're probably going to wind up creating more problems 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.960 for themselves that they respond this way. And so when 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.160 the school and his wife are both like, I don't 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.960 think are at are to them as immediately respond to 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.320 with violence to kids like making fun of them, Lyddy's 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.520 response to that is that before World War Two, they 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.080 French school started eduscate cating children not to respond violently. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.240 They tried to stop kids from fighting in schools, and 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.960 then in World War Two, the French lost because German 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:18.800 kids had been taught to be aggressive and get into 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.120 fights at schools. So I'm going to do what the 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.840 Germans did and teach my kids to get into pointless fights. Now, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.600 first off, yet another unnecessary Nazi reference. Second's really what 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.800 happened next? G Gordon Liddy Like, you're right, You're right. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.920 The French did lose the first part of that war. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:40.480 What happened next to the Germans? How far did starting 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.600 fights in every conceivable situation take Germany? 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:48.440 It's really just like, like, imagine being so convinced of 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:54.040 your rightness and having so little attention Spad that like, yeah, 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.320 he's like a real like first act of every movie. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.559 Yeah a guy, Yeah, what happened? Let's say two years later? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.960 Gordon Lyddy like where were where was Germany? Then? And 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.400 obviously this works the same way for his kids pretty 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.760 much that it does for Germany. And that the fact 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.520 that they're told like escalate physically, and like they're not 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.400 big kids, right, I think they're getting made fun of 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.000 and like, so they start escalating things physically and it 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.520 doesn't work out well for them, and in fact, not 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.199 only do kids not stop bullying them, but teens from 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.880 the local high school escalate and it's very funny. In 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.720 his book, Lyddy notes that like like, when describing these 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.880 teens that are gonna harass him and his kids at 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.400 their house, he notes, many of them larger, are larger 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:42.040 than me. Yeah, I am smaller than a child. So 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.160 some of these kids escalate to egging his house and 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.200 the family cars and throwing firecrackers at the Liddy house 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.360 at night, I think because they realize that, like, the 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.840 dad's a maniac too, so we can really fuck with 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.880 this family now. Lyddy knows he can't call the cops because, 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.920 in his mind, we live in a dangerous part of 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.160 and they've got enough on their plate. I gotta handle 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.800 this on my own, right like he's he's, he's, And 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.760 the way he writes this all out is very much 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.560 like fucking Liam Neeson and taken, where he's like, I 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.320 have a very particular set of skills that makes me 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.679 a nightmare to a fifteen year old like you. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.280 Yeah, I mean, I guess that's true. That is undeniable. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.320 He starts staying up at night and like waiting for 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.920 the kids to show up, uh, and then like when 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.319 they come out, he like chases them and gets one 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.640 of these children in a headlock. And then he he says, 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.359 one of the kids pulls a knife, and he explains 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.880 in detail, I will break that knife into pieces and 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.360 use him to like like cut this kid, Like I'll 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.040 kill you if you fucking pull that knife out on me. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.280 And like Number one, I don't I don't really believe 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.520 that a knife got pulled on him. Number Two, he 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.760 tells that stories if it makes him look cool. He 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.600 never provides evidence that these kids actually had done anything, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.320 Like theoretically, he just chased down and choked a child, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.720 Like there's no evidence given to us that shows anything 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.559 but that, like there's a real reason for him to 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.080 chase these kids because he's a maniac, Like he just 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.800 is pretty sure these are the kids, so he attacks 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:14.559 them in the street. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.600 There's like no version of this in the real life 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.080 version that didn't end with him getting pantsd right. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:24.280 No, for sure, they fell down as he was chasing them. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.680 Like I don't know that I actually believe any of 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.760 that he actually even caught a kid. But if he did, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.800 and if a kid pulled a knife. My guess is that, 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.680 like these kids were walking past the house and he 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.920 suddenly runs out, screaming and attacks one, and some kid 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.520 pulls a pocket knife because he's like, I don't know 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.400 what else to do in this situation. Yeah, and yeah, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.680 like that's probably how it goes. Nothing like, at no 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.960 point does this. This is not like whether or not 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.160 he actually got the culprits. They don't stop throwing eggs 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:57.520 at his house, right, Like, the minor vandalism continues, And 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.920 here's what he writes about A week later, another egg 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.280 hit the house. So I took to patrolling the alleys 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.880 on my own. Now I was hunting them. That's just 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.560 batman on them. He's like actively wandering the neighborhood at 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:15.080 night looking for teenagers to fight. Oh my god, that 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.320 spoiled all their fun and I assumed one complained to 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.000 his parents. One evening, as I was cleaning my gun collection, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.920 which was spread out for that purpose over newspapers on 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.240 the dining room table, many of the pistols disassembled. I 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.080 received a telephone call. A neighbor wanted to talk to 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.520 me about my nocturnal activities. I told him, fun, come 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.080 on over figuring he was one of the father of 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.200 one of the vandals. I wanted to talk to him. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.960 So first off, in the book, Liddy lays out all 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.800 of the different guns and descriptions of what and by 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.360 the way, nearly all of them German. Right, all of 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.320 these are like fucking lugers, Like they're all old Nazi guns. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.760 That's the only kind of gun he buys, Cowboy revolvers 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.720 and Nazi pistols. That's it for g Gordon Lyddy. So 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.080 he lays out all of this and he like spends 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.280 all this to tail on these guns that are laying out, 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.880 and then this guy comes over and Lyddy, he clearly 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.000 is like wants us to believe that like this terrified 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:10.840 the man that he like sees, Oh my god, Lyddy's 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.560 got all these guns. I better not fuck with him. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.200 There's he doesn't even provide in this story and the 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.280 evidence that this has an impact on the guy, right, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.640 Like the dude is like, you need to stop hunting 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:24.440 children in the night, right, And yeah, Lyddy is like, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.880 I don't want to stop hunting children in the night. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.880 And the guy says, well you should, and like it's 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.480 kind of over, like there's no evidence that his guns 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.040 had any influence on any of this, Like, we don't 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.920 need to know this, it's completely irrelevant, right, But eventually 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.319 kids stop egging his house, like, not even immediately. They 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.520 keep going for a while, and I think it just 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.960 peters out because children don't do anything forever. Yeah, And 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.000 he's like, it was clearly because I how scared this 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.120 man was of my guns. It's like, no, man, they 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.240 kept egging your fucking house. You did nothing. You had 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.079 no influence on this situation. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.760 That's really arkable that he didn't wind up getting like 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.160 his ass kicked by the neighborhood dads. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.640 I think he might, I don't. I think there's a 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.160 non zero chance that, like one night, when he's going 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.640 batman on some children, he gets hit in the face 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.000 with an egg and gets like a staph infection in 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.120 his eye. Look, there's as much evidence for that as 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.160 anything Lyddy. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:24.200 Claims for real. Jesus Christ, what a maniac. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.320 What a funny funny man so. Lyddy also claims that 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.560 he found during his time before getting shit Canned a 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.120 stack of Treasury Department badges laying around the office that 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.040 weren't real badges that were made up for the CIA 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.640 for CIA men who needed a cover, and so he 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.920 stole one, and that allowed him to carry a gun 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.200 anywhere in the country. Again, at no point does g. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.680 Gordon Liddy ever do anything involving a gun. This is 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.680 not relevant. There is no question that is answered by 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.760 the fact that he theoretically has the CIA badge, Like, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.760 he doesn't do anything with that. We don't ever need disinformation. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:03.560 He just cannot he like it is he he emotionally 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.960 he needs us to know he always had a gun 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.880 on him, Like he can't stand the fact that we 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.280 wouldn't know that. It's so funny. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:12.840 Oh. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.520 Also, I kind of don't believe that, Like I believe 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:20.280 the CIA gave people fake covers using other government agencies. Absolutely, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.160 I don't believe that they left their badgesting out in 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.880 the Treasury Department in a big bile where G. Gordon 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.119 Lenny could grab one. I do believe that he illegally 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.480 carried a firearm for years. I'll give him that. I'll 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.800 give him that. I bet he's I bet he broke those. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:38.400 Laws just like a stack of fake badges. Yeah, somehows 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.040 would let you carry a gun illegally, just sitting by 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.120 the coffee machine. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.040 Yeah, yeah, just like hanging out. Oh yeah, that's our 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.080 Cia badges. Don't take one g Gordon Lenny to let 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.800 you carry a gun anywhere you want. So again he 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.000 dedicates pages after this to talking, like telling all these 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.080 fake stories about how bad his neighborhood is in DC, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.880 and he he cannot again every time he encounters a 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.360 black person, he lets you know, right, and he tells. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.240 One of the stories he tells is that like one night, 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.360 this like black man knocks on the door and G. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.400 Gordon Liddy pulls a forty five and threatens to shoot 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.400 him with it, and again provides no evidence this man 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.960 wanted to do anything illegal, that like this was anything 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.160 but like a guy coming to his door by mistake, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.720 but by god, G Gordon Liddy is going to point 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.440 a firearm at a stranger. Great man hero. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:27.520 Yeah. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.920 So Lyddy gets pushed out of the Treasury Department. And 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.200 I'm not sure why. Maybe it's that he had made 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.200 enough friends, maybe it's that he had some lingering family connections. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.600 But they can't they don't feel like they can get 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:44.359 rid of him entirely, right, So instead of immediately pushing 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.640 lyddy out. They like, they find a job for him, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.440 they get switch him to a new boss, and they're like, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.240 you can stay here for a while, but you need 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.520 to find something else. So don't let it be too long. Right, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.440 And it just so happens that this is this is 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.760 the point at which Liddy wipes up in the Nixon 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.040 White House. Right, So this is the at this point 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.520 his career is was an FBI agent, got forced out 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.440 for incompetence, was a worked for the DA's office, probably 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.600 got forced out for incompetence, ran for office, lost badly, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.600 And then was that the Treasury apartment got forced out 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.520 for incompetence. Right? That is g Gordon Liddy's working career 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:27.240 at this point. Right, luckily for you know him, unlucky 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.560 and luckily for his coworkers at Treasury, but unluckily for 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.960 Richard Nixon and the rest of the country. The collapse 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.840 of his career at Treasury occurred right alongside an event 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.800 of much greater historic importance, the release of the Pentagon papers. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.280 I have you heard about this? Do you know what? 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.040 Like the Pentingon papers were. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.080 Was not enough? Actually, I'm happy to learn. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.159 I'll give you an overview here because people need to 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.879 know this, especially since Daniel Ellsberg, the guy who's kind 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.280 of behind the leak of these, just died very recently. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.000 The Pentagon Papers were an internal history of the Vietnam 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.520 War from nineteen forty five to nineteen sixty seven, commissioned 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.880 by the Defense Department. Right, it was this kind of thing. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.879 You know, again, the Defence Department is completely morally in 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.600 the wrong about most conflicts it's in post World War two. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.800 But this is a reasonable thing to do. Right, You've 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.280 just had this big disaster of a war, right, and 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.320 it's like it's going terribly. It's been going terribly in 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.760 nineteen sixty seven, it's still going on. Should probably sit 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.320 down and like try to lay out all the facts 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.920 about what happened and to figure out like what the 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.040 fuck went on here? Right, reasonable thing to want to do. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:26.679 So. 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.600 Among the fun facts revealed in the Pentagon Papers was 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.840 the fact that, despite President Johnson's claim to the contrary, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.880 at no point were we involved in Vietnam to help 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.160 South Vietnam. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:38.440 Right. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.240 The papers include the admission from the US government we 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.040 were there because we were in conflict with China. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:45.360 Right. 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.720 Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and others had come to 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.399 a view China as a Nazi like expansionist threat to 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.000 the entirety of Asia, and that's why we got involved 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.440 in Vietnam. It had nothing to do with supporting democracy 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.960 in South Vietnam, especially since South Vietnam was not really 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.720 functionally democracy or at least most of its history, Like 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.959 it was just because of our fears about China. Right, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.520 That's one of the things we get out of the 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.360 Pentagon Papers. The papers also contained evidence of US involvement 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.080 in the nineteen sixty three South Vietnamese coup and the 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.639 assassination of President DM. And there's always been like these 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.040 theories that did the US have this guy fucking iced 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.960 and like yes, basically yes, right. And there's a bunch 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.840 of other very shady or outright criminal acts that are 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.000 kind of revealed in the Pentagon Papers because these are 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:27.280 not meant for public release. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:27.600 Right. 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.560 The guy, one of the guys who compiles this report 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:34.479 is a Rand Corporation employee named Daniel Ellsberg. Prior to 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.479 working for the Rand Corporation, Elsberg had worked for the 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.960 CIA on a rural pacification campaign in Vietnam, so he 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.000 was one of the guys doing shady, dangerous shit for 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.320 the US in Vietnam. He had also been an aid 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.800 to Hank Kissinger, So like, this is a guy who 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.159 was pretty intimately involved in everything that's going on. And 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.480 as a result of kind of that process of some 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.240 of the things he sees, and as a result of 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.520 being part of the assembly of these Pentagon papers, he 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.680 gets against the war. Right now, there's some other again, 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.720 we're not going to give a comprehensive thing here, there's 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.320 some other like arguments over like Ellsberg and like why 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.399 he did what he did. But that's the broad story 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.760 and it's generally accurate. And in nineteen sixty nine he 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.280 leaks some of these papers to a New York Times 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.679 journalist and the whole thing blows up from there. The 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.159 time starts writing these stories about all this shady and 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.160