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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of r

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Speaker 1: I P. KFC Popcorn Chick trend. We could just go

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Speaker 1: popcorn chick trends, safe characters. I'm Jack that over there

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Speaker 1: is t d Z writer researcher J M McNabb Jing,

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Speaker 1: not too much, Thanks for having me. That's never the answer.

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Speaker 1: Always so much is happening. That's why people tune into

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Speaker 1: this show. Got to lie to them and make it

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Speaker 1: seem like there's constantly important things happen. I thought you

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Speaker 1: met with me personally. Oh yeah, no, I don't care

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Speaker 1: about that. Man. That fair enough. UM, great to have

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Speaker 1: you back. Uh, just a lot popping off, including KFC's

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Speaker 1: popcorn Chicken is no more. UM, this is I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever had it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie to you, but I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 1: had KFCs popcorn Chicken. Are you an American? I just

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Speaker 1: assume you had KFC three meals a day. And I

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Speaker 1: have eaten a lot of KFC and that is never

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Speaker 1: the thing that I want. I think I must have

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Speaker 1: had it once because it's just too much bread and

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Speaker 1: not enough chicken. I like the actual chicken. Breading balance

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Speaker 1: of the actual fried chicken and the popcorn chicken is

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Speaker 1: just like all all popcorn not enough chicken personally, which

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say deserved to die, and I hope

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Speaker 1: it Brendon burns in hell. But I just think that

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Speaker 1: this might so anyway, Like this has been long rumored, right,

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Speaker 1: They've they've been saying, hey, we're we're we're going to

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Speaker 1: replace it with a better chicken nugget product. That's what

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Speaker 1: I heard. Yeah, Like food bloggers have been meeting with

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Speaker 1: strange men and parking garages, getting like the inside scoop

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Speaker 1: about the planning the hit take out the popcorn chicken.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I know. So I guess people have been

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Speaker 1: saying it might happen for a while and I guess

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Speaker 1: now it's official. Um, it's just sad. The troubling detail

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Speaker 1: is that there's no firm date because there's still they're

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Speaker 1: out of the remaining supply of each other. So like,

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Speaker 1: if you can get popcorn chicken like two weeks from now,

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Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself do you really want it? Right,

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Speaker 1: because it's been like they're not making new popcorn chicken, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely something that it feels like, probably has a

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Speaker 1: um unnaturally long shelf life, but yeah they're good to like,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, you have a while to get them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just like. The thing that's weird about it, I

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Speaker 1: guess is I remember when it was like a big

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Speaker 1: new thing, Like the ads were like like they acted

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Speaker 1: like it was a scientific discovery. Like you like popcorn,

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Speaker 1: you like chicken, guess what, prepared to have your minds blown.

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Speaker 1: They're the same thing now and I remember that being exciting,

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Speaker 1: and now they're just just getting rid of it. Just

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Speaker 1: it should have hit. This should be a bigger deal

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Speaker 1: to me, because it did. The product was launched in

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Speaker 1: ninety two and mc hammer was the spokesperson. This was

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Speaker 1: a time when I had an mc hammer poster on

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Speaker 1: at Dayton Arena and where the University of Dayton Flyers

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Speaker 1: played basketball. Opened by end Vogue, I was, I was,

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Speaker 1: I should have been, should have been wooed by this,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was just too I just felt like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's awful but like as a small child,

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Speaker 1: I liked it. Yeah, they're also killing the Kentucky Fried

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Speaker 1: Chicken Wings, which I didn't know existed. Um, chocolate chip cookies,

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Speaker 1: Nashville Hot Sauce, and strawberry lemonade, so probably less less

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Speaker 1: important people. Um. We're also saying goodbye to arrest the

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Speaker 1: Development on Netflix. Possibly, um, I don't know, still a

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Speaker 1: chance there there might be like a last minute stay

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Speaker 1: of execution, because that's what happened with Netflix's first original show,

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Speaker 1: Lily Hammer. Yeah, so thank goodness because I've been binging Hammer.

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Speaker 1: It's just I just leave it on, you know, for

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Speaker 1: the kids in the background. It's like a fireplace. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's funny, even Lily Hammer, like as a devoted fan

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Speaker 1: base that is like, you will not let this contract

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Speaker 1: lap licensing contract lap. But the first three seasons of

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Speaker 1: Arrested Development, which are the ones that I most care about,

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Speaker 1: we're all right here. It's just one of those weird

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Speaker 1: things because I wasn't like a big fan of the

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Speaker 1: fourth and fifth season, but like because they licensed the

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Speaker 1: characters for Netflix, but they produced their original content. Like

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Speaker 1: the fact that that's disappearing, Like it's kind of now

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Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth season, because I suppose a deal

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Speaker 1: guess that happened maybe with like some of the Marvel

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Speaker 1: But it is again a reminder of like, you know

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Speaker 1: it if you're a fan of something that I I mean,

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Speaker 1: I still am a proponent of physical media, Like I

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Speaker 1: like the fifth season of Arrested Development. It's just potentially gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a So my pitch for them is what the

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Speaker 1: thing that you are having trouble licensing is the characters.

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Speaker 1: There are these new ads starting jan Asanta Coupo where

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Speaker 1: like your Google phone can remove people from photographs, like

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Speaker 1: if you get photo bombed by accident. So my pitches

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Speaker 1: and it's just like ambient background characters unlicensed just kind

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Speaker 1: You don't seem that enthusiastic. You don't have to say,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to spit ball and blue sky in it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just I'm reaching from my phone called

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Speaker 1: Ted Surrando's right there you go. Um and big news

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Speaker 1: new absolute hot garbage New York Times op ed just dropped. Um.

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Speaker 1: The op ed is titled in Defense of J. K Rowling,

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Speaker 1: so apparently like a piece of viral marketing for for

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Speaker 1: a podcast called the witch Trials of J. K Rowling,

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Speaker 1: And the podcast apparently compares the historic event in which

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Speaker 1: innocent women were murdered by zealots to the time a

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Speaker 1: angry on social media, and then she bragged about how

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Speaker 1: cancelation just means more money for her, and then so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that is the witch burning in question. But this

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Speaker 1: in addition to the extremely wealthy and billionaires being protected,

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Speaker 1: but it is wild and infuriating that The New York

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Speaker 1: Like it starts off by like comparing people being angry

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Speaker 1: leads to her getting richer. Is she's saying is the

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Speaker 1: that's not the same thing at all. They're saying that

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Speaker 1: And the murder rate of trans people is shockingly high,

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Speaker 1: Danny McBride is such a genius that he is channeled

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on Twitter. Still it's at j

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