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Speaker 1: All right, it is a Monday in September. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: get much better than this. We are live. It's the Herd.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be, and however you may be watching

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Speaker 1: or listening, We appreciate you stopping bylots of options one

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Speaker 1: hour from now. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of both. I'll be bitter about that

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos loss for the next six months. That hurt

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Speaker 1: Matt hassel Beck and Mark Slaret by the day jamact.

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Speaker 1: So I don't like to make definitive statements after the

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Speaker 1: first couple weeks, but there are some things. What do

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Speaker 1: they say two is a trend. There are some things

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Speaker 1: that we've seen before and they're resurfacing. So I am

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Speaker 1: ready for three hours of volcanic opinions. Are you ready

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Speaker 1: to roll? Yeah, Colin, I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling oh in two little Taylor Swift to start

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Speaker 1: the show. All right, here's what I know watching the

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Speaker 1: Eagles in Kansas City. Two things. Philadelphia is I guess beatable,

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Speaker 1: but it's not easy. And the dynasty days of Kansas

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Speaker 1: City they're over. They could be good this year, maybe

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Speaker 1: have some very good Sundays. But I watched that game

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Speaker 1: last night between the Eagles and the Chiefs. The twelve

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Speaker 1: best players, nine are probably Eagles. Even when the score

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Speaker 1: was ten ten and a half at Arrowhead, you kind

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Speaker 1: of felt like Philadelphia. You know, they'd think out a

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Speaker 1: way to squish you and grind it out, and they

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Speaker 1: do that a lot. I've never seen a team in

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Speaker 1: my entire life in the NFL that's better at getting

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Speaker 1: a yard or two or three or four. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: bad TV, it's ugly, but it's just who they are.

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Speaker 1: They're big, they're tough, they're physical and hurts and saque

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Speaker 1: in the offensive line and the tight ends. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: are four and zero since last season passing for under

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Speaker 1: one hundred yards. That's my favorite stat about the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's almost like passing gets in the way

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Speaker 1: of Philadelphia's offensive rhythm. AJ Brown yesterday he had five

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Speaker 1: catches for twenty seven yards. This is what Philadelphia does,

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Speaker 1: the whole mark of Philadelphia. They know what they are.

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Speaker 1: They esthetically can be ugly. The tush push they created it.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna fight for it. It may get banned, they

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Speaker 1: don't care. It's bad TV. They probably jump off sides

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Speaker 1: a little, but it's what they are. A tough, physical team,

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Speaker 1: not a perfect team. They probably are not designed to

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Speaker 1: play from way behind. But I mean, ask yourself this morning,

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Speaker 1: what is Kansas City really leaning into. I mean, Patrick

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Speaker 1: But I feel like Patrick Mahomes to the Chiefs offense

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Speaker 1: the only thing keeping the lights on. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: there's just Travis Kelsey hasn't play well. He got Xavier

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Speaker 1: but it really solved the game. So they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: better when Xavier Worthy comes back to Rashid Rice, and

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Speaker 1: I predicted they would be a wild card team. They

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Speaker 1: news for the Chiefs, the New York Giants are next

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Speaker 1: worthy should be coming back. But this was predictable regression.

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Speaker 4: We played good, two good football teams and made mistakes

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Speaker 4: But I think we're coming together as a team. And

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Speaker 1: They got kind of lucky. Either the Raiders or the

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Speaker 1: realize what you are. Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it works. The coach is a timing coach

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Speaker 1: So far this season the two Bear opening drives, Caleb

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Speaker 1: this league is not a timing style, and this coach

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Speaker 1: craves it. This coach craves structure. So it's Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: Caleb wouldn't work with Kyle Shanahan. Maybe there's a coach

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be big. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: You have to be consistently accurate. You just have to

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Speaker 1: be again, Jared Goff can't run. He's consistently accurate. Caleb's not.

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Speaker 1: And you have to be an anticipation thrower. You have

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Speaker 1: It also helps if you have composure. I don't think

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Speaker 1: is going to work. I think Caleb may work somewhere,

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Speaker 1: but this head coach did not draft this quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: how loyal is he going to be? And this general manager,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is three and seventeen scince. He took

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Speaker 1: over the job and is yet to draft a Pro Bowler.

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Speaker 1: And this general I've already told you don't have the ownership.

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Speaker 1: The front office has always been squarely. I like the coach.

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Speaker 1: I think the quarterbacks talented. But this general manager three

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Speaker 1: I think it's two week upstairs to overcome what you see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's certain franchises that can't get out of

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean people get divorced and they find the

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy may just be overwhelmed. I don't think Caleb

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Speaker 1: a huge arm. But this is a marriage. They don't

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Speaker 1: compliment each other. Here's the coach. We have a lot

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Speaker 5: I think they're just as disappointed as as the coaching

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Speaker 5: I have a lot of belief in them. Have leaders,

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Speaker 5: they find a way to respond. It's not demralizing at all.

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Speaker 5: It's not the moralizing all. We got to play better,

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Speaker 1: And what's really most disturbing is when they're on script.

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Speaker 1: It works, two for two, two touchdowns, looks excellent, which

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Speaker 1: He's had a great camp I mean, how many games

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Speaker 1: can you go with it?

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Speaker 1: Again, Cowboys are coming up, that defense isn't very good.

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Speaker 1: And this is not a season we thought they were

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl team. It was this season that you

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't think I'm way out there saying this.

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Speaker 1: There's certain things you can see quickly, right And I

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Speaker 1: just think this is a coach that craves structure and

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Speaker 1: something's got to change fast.

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Well, Chiefs. We predicted that they

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Speaker 1: would be thin offensively, and they may make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but it will only be as a wild card team.

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Speaker 1: They're just not as explosive. Some of that is the

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Speaker 1: they will get better offensively, but Travis Kelsey's last two

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Speaker 1: which became almost a pick six. They cannot run the ball.

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Speaker 1: But Holmes, as I said earlier, is like keeping the

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Speaker 8: then you know, obviously there's some like just mandatory things

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Speaker 8: for quarterbacks on an outbreaking route. You can never leave

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Speaker 8: it inside. You talked about confidence, I think when you

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Speaker 8: hold onto the ball. It doesn't necessarily hurt your confidence

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Speaker 8: as a court it hurts the confidence of the offensive line.

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Speaker 8: They might have done a decent job in pass protection,

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Speaker 8: but because you held on and hitched it a couple,

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Speaker 8: you know, one too many times, it feels like they

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Speaker 8: gave up a pressure when quite honestly, maybe they didn't

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Speaker 8: even give up a pressure. It just was you holding

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Speaker 8: on to it. So that's something that you know, the

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Speaker 8: young quarterbacks I think struggle with I know I struggled

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Speaker 8: with it. But you look at the game's best quarterbacks

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Speaker 8: over time, they get the ball out on time and

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Speaker 8: helps their team, you know, stay on track.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about this with my buddy John Middelkoff

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Speaker 1: last night. Is I listen, Sometimes as a quarterback you

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Speaker 1: get hurt. It's not your fault, you get blindsided. But

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Speaker 1: when a quarterback like Joe Burrell or a Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: get hurt time and time again, and Eli Manning never does.

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Speaker 1: I do think a lot of a quarterback's health over

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Speaker 1: the course of a career is are you good pre snap?

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Speaker 1: Do you see the blitzes coming? Do you get rid

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Speaker 1: of the ball quickly? Do you understand your personnel and

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Speaker 1: where to slide protect and where not to. I don't

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Speaker 1: think every injury for Joe Burrow is always on the

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Speaker 1: bad old line for the Bengals. I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: just feels like to me, we always blame the O line,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like the Brady's and the elis they

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Speaker 1: get down or they don't get hurt.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're I mean, listen, protect the team by protecting yourself.

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Speaker 8: I mean you're onto something here. Obviously, this last injury

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Speaker 8: on Burrows. You know, I'm not saying it's his fault,

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Speaker 8: but you know, as a franchise quarterback, which he clearly

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Speaker 8: is one of the great players in the game of

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Speaker 8: all time already, there's something too not being hurt. There's

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Speaker 8: something too not ending the season on IR. You know,

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Speaker 8: like the great quarterbacks. You mentioned some guys, but whether

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Speaker 8: it's Brady or Breeze or Manning or Stafford, you know,

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Speaker 8: how many seasons do they end on on IR. I

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Speaker 8: think that's something that they learn. You know, you see

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Speaker 8: Tom Brady, Peyton, Manning, they throw a pick, are they

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Speaker 8: going after it? Making the tackle? Sometimes they live to

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Speaker 8: play another play. They just get down. So I think

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Speaker 8: it'd be very easy to sort of blame the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: All the Bengals aren't spending enough money, They're not building

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Speaker 8: you know, I could blame the Bengals for maybe not

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Speaker 8: building the whole roster properly but offensively. If they're going

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Speaker 8: to give him the weapons talking about Joe Burrow that

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Speaker 8: they're given to him, I think one of the best

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Speaker 8: things that he could learn to do going forward is

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Speaker 8: understand that, hey, by protecting myself, by learning to live

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Speaker 8: for the next play, I'm really doing my part to

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Speaker 8: protect the team. And you know, I love Joe. I

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Speaker 8: love his style. He takes a bunch of sacks, his

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Speaker 8: eyes are downfield, he makes a bunch of big plays.

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Speaker 8: He's willing to put his body on the line. But

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Speaker 8: at the same time, I think understanding your value to

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Speaker 8: the team, that might be an area where you know

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Speaker 8: he's gonna want to you know, I think play a

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Speaker 8: little bit more like those guys you mentioned at Peyton

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Speaker 8: Manning and Eli Manning because of his value to the team.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Mac Jones had his best game as a pro.

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Speaker 1: He had no George Kittle Brandon aiyuk I said the

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Speaker 1: playbook by Shanahan should be called Quarterback for Dummies. It's

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Speaker 1: like everybody gets it. I mean, mac Jones did not

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Speaker 1: have a big arm. He's not super athletic. They asked

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Speaker 1: him to throw thirty nine times on the road. That

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Speaker 1: I mean like the Eagles with Jalen Hurst want him

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Speaker 1: to throw at twenty three. It's almost double the throws.

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Speaker 1: And so I looked at it yesterday and I'm like

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Speaker 1: mac Jones looked great. I mean, what does Kyle do

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Speaker 1: in terms of simplicity. He's got backup tight ends. You

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Speaker 1: know who are they? He's got to have some cheat code?

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Speaker 1: Does he not? For quarterbacks?

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Speaker 8: Well, if you were to talk to quarterbacks around the league,

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Speaker 8: I think you would hear this. I think you would

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Speaker 8: hear that Kyle Shanahan and Matt Lafloor are the guys

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Speaker 8: that they would want to go play for. And you

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Speaker 8: see guys try to resurrect their career by going and

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Speaker 8: spending a year with those kind of guys. And there

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Speaker 8: are other guys. I'm sure Daniel Jones you spent some

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Speaker 8: time with Kevin O'Connell, Like there's other guys. But you

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Speaker 8: saw what Sam Darnold did when he went to San Franz.

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Speaker 8: Was there as a backup kind of resurrected his career.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure that's what mac Jones thought. Hey, listen, I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna go do that now. Am I gonna overreact because

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Speaker 8: of a good game against the Saints? Like, No, not necessarily,

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Speaker 8: But this is why mac Jones chose to go there.

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Speaker 8: This is why quarterbacks around the league sort of are

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Speaker 8: jealous about the play caller, the scheme that is Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 8: that is Matt Lafleur. But to overreact and think that

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Speaker 8: maybe somehow, you know, like Brock Purdies, not like the

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Speaker 8: real difference maker on that team, like to me, I

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Speaker 8: think he is. But it goes hand in hand with

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Speaker 8: a great play caller, great play designer, which they clearly

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Speaker 8: have in San fran.

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this one more thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: know your injury history, but I said, whoever Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 1: surgeon is he didn't get paid enough. Dak is so rejuvenated,

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Speaker 1: his mobility is back, it's rookie or second ear Dak,

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Speaker 1: his confidence, his body language like Dak looked unbelievable yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and the Giants D line's pretty good and they don't

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Speaker 1: you know, ceede Lamps obviously a special talent, Like he's

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Speaker 1: really good, but it's not a great personnel group up

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Speaker 1: front for him. I don't know. I always thought pro

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Speaker 1: athletes off surgery had to play their way back into confidence.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of blown away by Dak through two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've heard you say it. It's the eye test.

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Speaker 8: You see a guy right away, you can tell what

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Speaker 8: kind of off season he had, you know, and there's

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Speaker 8: off seasons that you have that aren't really successful. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I remember I had one of those, I think eight

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Speaker 8: oh nine, and just like it didn't I looked at

542
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Speaker 8: myself and I didn't feel fast, I didn't feel explosive,

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Speaker 8: I didn't feel powerful. You've heard Dak Prescott talk about

544
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Speaker 8: this this talk about that this year, saying like, I

545
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Speaker 8: didn't like how I was last year, especially as a runner,

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Speaker 8: and so he's worked on that. I think he looks

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Speaker 8: different physically. I think he looks different running the ball.

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Speaker 8: He's been great. He's been great. And I know this

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Speaker 8: for a fact as a as a player, as a quarterback,

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Speaker 8: especially when you feel great about your off season training,

551
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Speaker 8: when you feel strong and fit and powerful and explosive,

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Speaker 8: you feel confident. Like you feel confident as a player,

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Speaker 8: you feel called, you just feel different, and I think

554
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Speaker 8: your teammates feel it. And I think there's an emotional

555
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Speaker 8: intelligence that kind of like rubs off on the sidelines.

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Speaker 8: If you watch Dak this year, he's not like sitting

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Speaker 8: on the bench, you know, getting drinks and water and

558
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Speaker 8: gatorade and all that stuff. The whole time he's on

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Speaker 8: his feet, he's dapping up his teammates, he's walking up

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Speaker 8: and down offense, defense, o line, He's engaged. I just

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Speaker 8: think that to me, that screams like a guy that

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Speaker 8: had a great offseason. Whatever he did, it was great,

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Speaker 8: and I think he should continue.

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Speaker 7: To do that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I asked him to throw against that front

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Speaker 1: for the Giants fifty two times, and yet he still

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Speaker 1: had at the end of the game the energy to

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Speaker 1: peel off to throw fifty two times. In the NFL,

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Speaker 1: that is the Calarie burn itself is insane. And then

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Speaker 1: he peels off or run in overtime and I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: that that is all time stuff.

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Speaker 8: That is Yeah, and having his legs is an important

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Speaker 8: piece to the puzzle of who he is as a player.

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Speaker 8: When he came in that rookie year when he replaced

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Speaker 8: Tony Romo. He gave them a little bit of a

577
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Speaker 8: boost with the mobility, with the naked bootlegs and that

578
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Speaker 8: one scramble that just breaks the defense back when they

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Speaker 8: call the right play. So you know, that's an important thing.

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Speaker 8: And this is a dangerous team with a great kicker.

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Speaker 8: They're saying his range is like seventy yards. Look look

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Speaker 8: out for Dallas. They're a lot better than people thought

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Speaker 8: before the season.

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Speaker 1: All right, Matt hassel Beck as olways great stuff on

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Speaker 1: a Monday. Yeah, I mean you go, look, folks, when

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Speaker 1: you ask a quarterback to throw fifty two times in

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Speaker 1: a pass rush of the Giants and they're still scrambling

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Speaker 1: for the first down late, it's impressive. Matt Hasselbeck, thank

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Speaker 1: you for stopping by on a Monday. We still got

590
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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. Mark Schlareth on that Bronco

591
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Speaker 1: giveaway game brutal. I didn't think yesterday was a great

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Speaker 1: day for officials. By the way, Dean Blandino came out

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Speaker 1: on the toush push and said, I'm over it. It's

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Speaker 1: a very hard play. I think that that's gonna seize.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be the end of the toush push

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Speaker 1: in the offseason when they raised their hands for a vote.

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Speaker 1: When the officials say we can't really officiate it, we

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Speaker 1: can't really clearly see it. I think that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. A league starts with rules any

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Speaker 1: sport if I don't care what sport you are, if

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Speaker 1: you're creating the UFC twenty five years ago rules, and

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Speaker 1: then you have officials, right, here's our rules. Here's the

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Speaker 1: people who will officiate it, will teach them. Then we

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Speaker 1: have the athletes. When the rules and the officials are

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Speaker 1: at odds and the officials are saying, you know, we

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Speaker 1: just can't see where's the ball. I mean, the Philadelphia

607
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Speaker 1: looks like they're nudging off sides and getting a false

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Speaker 1: start and nobody's calling it. That will be the end

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Speaker 1: of it. Because Philadelphia can say we invented it. Nobody

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Speaker 1: can stop it. But if the officials are struggling to

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Speaker 1: officiate a play, that's dangerous, and I think that'll be

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Speaker 1: the end of the touch push in the offseason.

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Speaker 9: Well wait a second, Yeah, for years the officials were like,

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Speaker 9: we don't know what it catches. I mean, the bobbling,

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Speaker 9: all this stuff this is a little easier, Colin, just

616
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Speaker 9: because they ran it seven times yesterday and Chiefs fans

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Speaker 9: can't stop it. They're very upset. They're crying, why don't

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Speaker 9: we just put a chip in the football? That is

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Speaker 9: the easiest thing you can possibly do to get a

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Speaker 9: great spot. People have been talking about this for years,

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Speaker 9: and by the way, kitt the officials just huddle up.

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Speaker 1: And be like, hey, let's have it.

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Speaker 9: Let's have an official meeting, and this is how we

624
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Speaker 9: we adjust to what the tush push is and we

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Speaker 9: make sure we do a better job of it. I

626
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Speaker 9: don't like outlawing the best play in football, the most automatic,

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Speaker 9: unstoppable play. I don't know why the rest just can't

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Speaker 9: be better.

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Speaker 1: I don't love it either. But and for the record,

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Speaker 1: other teams have tried it and failed. He does not

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Speaker 1: look the same with everybody else.

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Speaker 9: I say, JJ McCarthy's trying last night, He's like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. Like he looks scared

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Speaker 1: to R Williams, forget it. He doesn't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: It's not I mean, I know it's interesting. So Travis

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey retires best center in a decade, right and

637
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Speaker 1: the tush push doesn't go backwards, because what Jalen Hurts

638
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Speaker 1: is is the strongest quarterback pound for pound, probably in

639
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Speaker 1: league history. There's been a lot of big guys and

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Speaker 1: a lot of tall guys in Fasca. How many quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: you know do a six hundred and sixty pounds leg press,

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Speaker 1: And I think a huge component to this. He is shorter,

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Speaker 1: he's stout, he's smaller. He gets an incredible push. Now,

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Speaker 1: their O line is excellent, but they just lost the

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Speaker 1: best center in a decade in the sport, and the

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Speaker 1: tush push remains unstoppable. So it was not Kelsey, It's

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts who makes that puppy work. By the way, the.

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Speaker 8: Chiefs have Creed Humphrey, one of the best centers in

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Speaker 8: the league.

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Speaker 1: Why don't they run our Dutchess place. That's right, Just

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Speaker 1: give us out there, Pat, huh No, it's on. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts is just a weird combination of you know, diminutive size.

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Speaker 1: So you can't get Josh Allen's the most talented quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league. Justin Herbert. I've seen him try it. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're six'. Five people can headhunt With hertz head down

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Speaker 1: huge leg. Strength there's nothing you can. DO i, mean

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Speaker 1: there's literally nothing you can.

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