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Speaker 1: Smell us Now, Lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain

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Speaker 2: Time on Thursday, December twelfth, and we are here live

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Speaker 2: for medi to HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Randa Williams, and I'm joined today by Brody Henderson and

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Speaker 2: Ryan cal Callahan. Did I get that right?

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Speaker 3: Nailed it?

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Speaker 2: On today's show, We're gonna talk to our good friends Bubbly,

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Speaker 2: Doug Duran and Pat Durkin. We're gonna dig into the

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Speaker 2: photo archives for another throwback Thursday. We're gonna know We're

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Speaker 2: going to North Alabama for One Minute Fishing. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: our top three wild game and fish species for the table.

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Speaker 2: And we're doing another highly anticipated installment of the Meat

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Speaker 2: Eater Movie Club where we will be reviewing the nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy eight film Buffalo Rider. Before we get into all that,

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Speaker 2: I've got an important announcement. There are only a few

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Speaker 2: more days left to be sure that any last minute

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Speaker 2: orders from the Meat Eater First Light, FHF, Phelps and

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Speaker 2: DSD stores arrive on time for Christmas. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: a Little Birdie by the name of Corey Calkins told

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Speaker 2: me that our twenty twenty five fucked up old shitters calendars.

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Speaker 2: That's the fed up old shitters calendars. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: in stock tomorrow, December thirteenth, so get them before they

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Speaker 2: are all gone, or before a twenty twenty five calendar

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Speaker 2: is irrelevant. Brody cal It's great to see you both.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that calendars go irrelevant because I think

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Speaker 1: most folks are just ad them for the photos at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you often walk into our garage and see

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Speaker 4: a calendar from twenty six years ago.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's usually you know, big Bucks or pin

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Speaker 2: up gals.

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Speaker 3: Not I was going to say, the older they are,

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Speaker 3: the more lud baby.

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Speaker 4: If it's a good enough shit or it could stand

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Speaker 4: the test of time, exactly.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Joining us on the line first today are friends of

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Speaker 2: the program, Doug Durhan and Pat Dirkin, who are joining

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Speaker 2: us on day one of Doug's Doe Derby in Wisconsin. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show. It's great to see you both.

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Speaker 5: Visible.

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Speaker 2: I see, So what is what's going on with the

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Speaker 2: Doe Derby there? Doug can you tell us what the

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Speaker 2: Casanovia doe derby is?

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Speaker 6: Well, the uh, we're started to take your time.

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Speaker 1: Doug, I'm sorry said take your time.

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Speaker 5: Is this thing on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's the same. You don't have the

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Speaker 3: whole show.

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Speaker 7: So we started the dough derby a few years ago

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Speaker 7: as a part of the forty antler list hunt. And

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Speaker 7: the idea is that we're encouraging people to reduce the

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Speaker 7: population by taking antler this deer, most of which will

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Speaker 6: And then the other thing is.

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Speaker 7: That we're getting them encouraging to get them tested for

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Speaker 7: CWD if they bring their harvested dough like to in

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Speaker 7: a trailer over or in our buggy over here that

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Speaker 7: we got the fine cut the head off submitted for

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Speaker 7: CWD testing. Inside this thing will be a couple of

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Speaker 7: tickets that they'll fill out. And through the support of

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Speaker 7: generous sponsors like like meat Eater and Vortex and can

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Speaker 7: Am and and but there's a whole list, we have

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Speaker 7: a bunch of prizes that we give away, so's we're

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Speaker 7: incentivizing people to h to harvest and get tested for CWD.

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Speaker 6: And then the other thing that we do is we.

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Speaker 7: Have this party here on Saturday evening with my tall

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Speaker 7: friend Pat Durkin will be a part of that. And Uh,

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Speaker 7: it's just a place where hunters gather and we you know,

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Speaker 7: tell deer stories and kind of some of the old

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Speaker 7: school stuff that and I used to enjoy a lot

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Speaker 4: Does Pat have all the prizes in those pockets.

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Speaker 6: On his bed? Like?

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Speaker 4: I feel like we do a whole segment just going

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Speaker 8: Said, I'm kind of kind of surprised you guys haven't

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Speaker 2: I figured it was just the angle of the camera,

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Speaker 2: or is there? Ah? Yeah, very nice. Well how's how's

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Speaker 8: I mean, I got this idea by watching the NFL

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Speaker 8: bad idea, so I figured stand. I used to Doug,

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Speaker 8: I looked like a little kid, So I thought today

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Speaker 1: So what is the the deer count? And have you

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Speaker 1: gotten any testing back yet?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're up to depending on just on the farm

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Speaker 7: and you know, the properties that I have here, we're

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Speaker 7: at about twenty five. Unfortunately, the later ones that we

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Speaker 7: But the unfortunate part is the ones that we got

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Speaker 7: buck that I got tested positive. Brock who's holding the

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Speaker 7: camera here right now, shot a a antlerless buck and

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Speaker 7: shot a three and a half year old buck and

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Speaker 6: They tested positive. So we have five.

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Speaker 7: That have tested positive out of eleven that we've gotten

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, and then.

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Speaker 1: Are those your only dough derby submissions the ones in

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Speaker 1: the canyon there or turned in?

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Speaker 7: Well, we've got uh. This year, we've expanded, so we

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Speaker 7: have five different kiosks like this where people can happen,

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Speaker 7: and the people who are running those kiosks are bringing

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Speaker 7: people are more you know, it's just more opportunity and

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Speaker 7: getting more people involved, and I haven't countered them all

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Speaker 3: Wow wow, very cool.

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Speaker 2: And this is just open to anyone who wants to

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Speaker 7: Anybody who can legally transport a deer, because there's just

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Speaker 7: all these CWD regulations that we're not going to talk

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Speaker 7: you have to kind of be adjacent, and of course

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Speaker 6: So folks can bring they can bring the head, they

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Speaker 6: can bring the whole carcascent if they want to. Some

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Speaker 6: people have just brought the limph notes and you know,

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Speaker 6: who's gonna lie about something like that.

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Speaker 7: So, uh, it's been it's been gratifying to see this grow.

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Speaker 7: I mean, cal you were here the first year and

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Speaker 7: we had I don't know, you know, less than one

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Speaker 7: hundred submissions, I think around fifty, and now we're you know,

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Speaker 7: we're approaching three hundred, so we're excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the way these things have to start, you know,

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Speaker 1: because then everybody who participates win something in the raffle

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Speaker 1: and word word spent spreads really fast. The other thing

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Speaker 1: that meat processor that you have up the road. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan and I were going to come back just

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Speaker 1: those guys make more brought worst.

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Speaker 3: That brought Worst is unbelievaba.

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Speaker 2: I'll testify. I did get to enjoy some of that

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Speaker 2: brought Worst and it is spectacular.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's great.

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Speaker 7: We're actually enjoying some of those this weekend as well

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Speaker 7: as a part of our as a part of the party.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, do you have any idea how many folks

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Speaker 7: I would stay somewhere between fifty and one hundred. You

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Speaker 7: don't have to be present to win, but I will

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Speaker 7: tell anybody who's who's in the area who might come

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Speaker 7: to the party. Saturday evening will start at about five

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Speaker 7: year for only for the people who actually.

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Speaker 6: Come to the party.

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Speaker 2: Very nice.

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Speaker 6: Along with the.

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Speaker 7: We have a Savage access rifle with a word Tech

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Speaker 7: scope and a Chris Crafted, a Chris Crafted custom sling,

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Speaker 7: got a big can Am branded YETI cooler seed from

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Speaker 7: my friends at Hoxy Native Seed Camp. Chef has given

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Speaker 7: us as they have in previous years. Are really nice

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Speaker 7: to burner stove. Our friends at Deck sent us one

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Speaker 7: of their cases to give away some really great prizes.

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Speaker 7: Binoculars from Vortex, a full set of meat Eater books,

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Speaker 7: all signed by Steve. And so those are some of

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Speaker 7: the prizes for the first drawing. And then we'll have

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Speaker 7: a virtual drawing the first week of January when the entire.

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Speaker 6: Season is over with. We have a this four day.

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Speaker 7: Season and then bow hunting continues and then there's a

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Speaker 7: holiday hunt. So between December fourteenth, hey, between holidays, right

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Speaker 7: December fourteenth to January first, there's also another twenty.

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Speaker 6: That's why I have Dirk and here. It keeps me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how much up for the festivities tonight?

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Speaker 6: We have a pretty good pile over there.

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Speaker 7: We'll be all right, you know, nobody's gonna get nobody's

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Speaker 6: We'll be able to see the fire from a ways away.

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Speaker 7: So you know, it's we have it's it's I think

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Speaker 7: we have brought back some of that enjoyment that people

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Speaker 7: right and people have really enjoyed coming to that. The

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of discussion about what CWD is doing,

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Speaker 7: That's uh pretty hard to point it in other directions

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've created a safe place, if you will,

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Speaker 1: for all these big tough folks to come together and

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Speaker 1: talk about killing does which is something that's very important,

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Speaker 1: and what they're going to do with the meat, and

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Speaker 1: then have thoughtful discussions on CWD and and what they're

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Speaker 1: going to do with all the cool stuff they want.

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Speaker 1: You're doing the Lord's work.

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Speaker 7: Doug Well, and it's great to see we're doing what

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Speaker 2: And it's great to see that you have the support

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Speaker 2: of a bunch of different great brands in the industry

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Speaker 7: It really has been and it's not been, uh, incredibly

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Speaker 7: difficult to get people to step forward. We've had people

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Speaker 6: Know for first Light. What a great you know, what

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Speaker 7: And it's really uh, it's been great to see that support.

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Speaker 6: And here we are, sunning standing in front.

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Speaker 7: Of the kiosk where we where if people do the

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 6: Think they're not.

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Speaker 2: It's the opposite of a live well.

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Speaker 3: And you're not on the dough board yet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I got to on the on the board so far,

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Speaker 8: and I tried to impress Doug you know that I

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Speaker 8: actually know how to remove the lymph nodes. So that's

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Speaker 8: my contribution is in there, just in a little bag.

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Speaker 6: They look suspiciously like consoles.

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Speaker 2: Now, is there any sign of our dear friend Chester

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Speaker 6: He will be here on Saturday, Yeah, for the for

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Speaker 7: Son and he said, I'd like to hunt, but I'll

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Speaker 7: think I got a spot for you. I'll put him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of Pat's pockets. I was gonna say, you

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Speaker 2: might save that, uh, save that milk crate for Chester

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Speaker 2: if we if we end up going back to you,

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Speaker 2: very good. Well, guys, it's great to see you, and uh,

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Speaker 2: congratulations on pulling together another great event. And best of

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Speaker 6: Thanks you guys, all right, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Couple couple solid folks there. Oh yeah, it is time

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Speaker 2: for Throwback Thursday, where we dig into the photo archives

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Speaker 2: and take a trip down memory lane with some of

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Speaker 9: Go back on a Thursday, Mon, Stephen Brody, take me

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Speaker 9: back to nineteen seventy four. Did I mentioned Stephen Brody?

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Speaker 6: Our old as?

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Speaker 5: I love it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's delightful, Phil, Thank you, really good.

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Speaker 3: That's really good Phil.

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Speaker 1: Oh the memories, the memories, the pictures here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get those pictures up.

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Speaker 1: I was personally shocked that people had digitized memories. I

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Speaker 1: and finding the polaroids.

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Speaker 2: Well, the new memories.

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Speaker 3: Look at that cute dog. What's that dog?

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Speaker 2: That dog? That dog is named Jack also known as

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Speaker 2: Jack Bishkins. He in that photo. God, he must have

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Speaker 2: been maybe two years old. He lived to the ripe

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Speaker 2: old age of seventeen. Whoa, and he turned into quite

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Speaker 4: Speaking of being old though, Like you can tell that

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Speaker 4: Randall is not old because this picture doesn't look old.

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Speaker 5: It's like like high quality. You know that you're mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is the early day of digital cameras.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how old I am in that photo.

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Speaker 2: Maybe nineteen twenty. That's my first buck, first white tailed

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Speaker 2: deer buck. I'm sitting there in Kentucky and I got

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Speaker 2: that I were sitting in the bed of black Thunder.

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Speaker 2: It's a nineteen ninety seven Ford Ranger with an orange

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Speaker 2: racing stripe on the side of it. Just just a

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Speaker 2: you know, great memory with a good dog, good firearm.

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Speaker 2: That is a Marlin Model eighteen ninety five g guide

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Speaker 2: gun chambered in forty five seventy oh wild. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: believe I was shooting a Remington cor locked the four

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Speaker 2: h five grand soft point and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, effective range of about one hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually this buck I shot him, he was he

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Speaker 2: was actually locked up with a smaller.

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Speaker 5: Buck and made that smaller bucks day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I brought an end to their exciting fest.

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Speaker 5: What did that smaller buck do after you shot the

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Speaker 2: It's all it's all a blur. It's all a blur.

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Speaker 2: But I shot him out of a homemade little crotch

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Speaker 3: Two by fours, right as in the crotch of the tree.

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Speaker 2: Crouched the tree. Indeed, and then the following year I

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Speaker 2: shot another ten point out of that same crotch with

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Speaker 2: that same rifle. So some of my early formative memories

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Speaker 2: there still got the rifle. I don't great big mistake

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Speaker 2: on my part.

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Speaker 1: When I first looked at this, I thought, you're there

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Speaker 1: is a cemetery as the back dry That's.

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Speaker 5: What I thought, excited to hear.

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Speaker 2: No, it's an old Uh. It's an old well pump

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Speaker 2: with like a crank handle at the Lewis family farm. Oh,

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Speaker 2: here's another one. This is me in maybe two thousand

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Speaker 2: and ten eleven with a couple of berbot at the

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Speaker 2: end of a long summer working in the last where

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Speaker 2: I have obviously lost my mind.

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Speaker 1: Do they call him Burbot in Alaska? Or was there

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Speaker 1: were there any other names for him?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 2: The guys I was with called him Burbot.

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Speaker 5: I think some people call him cusk up there.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I read that.

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Speaker 5: I think so they got so many different names.

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Speaker 2: Yes, these are just on set lines and we ran

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Speaker 2: and had a big old.

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Speaker 5: Cus or loss.

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Speaker 2: I forget what Herbert fry on my last night up there.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 2: So that's me and my amish beard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I should bring that back.

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Speaker 2: That's a strapping young fellow.

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Speaker 4: That's the first iteration of the first light suspenders col.

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Speaker 1: Wool pants, wool union suit. That's a full one piece

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Speaker 1: And if if the suspenders were turned the right way out,

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Speaker 1: they have little skiers on them, but they are no

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Speaker 1: more because they lost their elasticity a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's my first elk ever.

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Speaker 3: Right there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How old were you in that photo?

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Speaker 3: It was high school, probably a sophomore year.

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Speaker 2: I would think he grew up.

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Speaker 5: In Montana, right, yep. Did they not have an orange

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Speaker 5: law back then?

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Speaker 3: They did?

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Speaker 1: So this this, this is like a manufactured photo.

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Speaker 5: I got a lot of people take the orange off

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't. Is never something like I've made

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Speaker 1: a point of But I was out with my hunting

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Speaker 1: mentor my my outfitter buddy, the guy learned everything from

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Speaker 1: which was also like a father son and uh it

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Speaker 1: Not a lot happened, and we hiked tired all week

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Speaker 1: and nothing was happening. And as we were packing up

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Speaker 1: we got this. Why don't you take one more walk?

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Speaker 1: And so I did, and was in Hunter's orange and

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Speaker 1: you look close as a left handed seven mmg you know,

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Speaker 1: and you may may know that I would have nothing

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Speaker 3: Right or left handed. And uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, walked walked in and looked down into this cut

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Speaker 1: and there was a cow and a calf feeding there

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Speaker 3: Was all by myself.

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Speaker 1: First, OULC was like, oh my god, this is really happening,

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Speaker 1: and tried to talk myself out of it and all

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Speaker 1: the things and lay down and actually made a Texas

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Speaker 1: heart shot on this cow as she was going out

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Speaker 1: the spine, and that bullet went in, kicked off her

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Speaker 2: Textbook.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't didn't hit a stitch of meat. It was

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Speaker 1: like the most crazy shot ever. But you know, as

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, somebody else could get

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Speaker 1: and I was able to take the other father and

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Speaker 1: two shot the calf, and so they got to go

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Speaker 1: home with some meat. And Yeah, it was a you know, know,

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Speaker 1: a conflicting young man experience, right of like cow and

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Speaker 1: and then and then they were like, you got to

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Speaker 1: get a picture of that thing.

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Speaker 3: That's an antelope.

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Speaker 2: Another mustacheless photo, we do. I did see someone in

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There was some question about when you started growing at

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Speaker 2: previous photos, so here clearly you do have a full

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I rocked a lot of hair. But you know,

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was fleeting, but I made up for it in

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Speaker 1: the volume that I could grow around the deep pits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know remember what happened here with this antelope.

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Speaker 3: But that's Ruger M. Seventy seven and eighty all.

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Speaker 5: That I had. That rifle, it's a good rifle.

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Speaker 3: It is a good rifle. Yeah. That paddle stock, yes

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Speaker 3: it did. Yeah, did I tell yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, the full weatherized stainless steel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I cannot remember. I think my dad must have killed

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Speaker 3: So I was guiding for the.

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Speaker 1: Old outfitter and uh yeah, Dad, Dad, that's how that's

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Speaker 1: those Those are the photos we used to take back then.

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Speaker 1: Primary focus was on getting things gutted fast. And that

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Speaker 1: is still my biggest white tail buck to day.

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 1: Other than antelope. This is the only shoulder mount animal

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Speaker 1: this shoulder mount in person because it's hanging in my

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Speaker 2: It's impressive.

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Speaker 5: Yep, oh, there you is.

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Speaker 4: I only sent phill one picture. I didn't know we

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Speaker 4: were supposed to send multiples in. But anyway, that's me

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Speaker 4: when I was probably I was probably ten or eleven.

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Speaker 4: That's northwestern Pennsylvania on Elk Creek, which is a Lake

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Speaker 4: those lake Erie streams used to get They used to

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Speaker 4: have an artificial man made run of cohos chanook and steelhead,

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Speaker 5: A short period of time.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, when it started raining in the fall, and that's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I landed that thing and I was like the

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Speaker 5: first big fish I ever landed.

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Speaker 3: It looks like you have overboots on.

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Speaker 4: I do like what they call us, think galoshes, no waiters.

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Speaker 5: My dad was cheap skate back then.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like you go in as deep as

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Speaker 2: You're getting wet.

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Speaker 4: But they're like those streams are weird because they're all

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Speaker 3: Could, so they'll run up and sit in that bucket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so yeah. Man, I've always loved that picture

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Speaker 4: because I'm really reefing on that fish and I landed it.

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Speaker 4: It's good times back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and whoever colorized it after the fact from the

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Speaker 2: original black and white a really nice job. I had

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Speaker 2: to get one of those in.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well that's.

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Speaker 2: It for Throwback Thursday. Our next segment is One Minute Fishing.

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Speaker 2: Do I feel lucky?

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Speaker 5: We'll do.

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Speaker 2: You go ahead, make my cast. One Minute Fishing is

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Speaker 2: where we go live to someone who's fishing and they

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Speaker 2: have one minute to catch a fish, and if they're successful,

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Speaker 2: we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a conservation group.

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Speaker 2: This week, our angler is Kyle Liibarger, who's at Wheeler

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Speaker 2: Lake on the Tennessee River in Alabama fishing for crappie.

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Speaker 2: Kyle is the founder of the Native Habitat Project, and

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Speaker 2: today he is fishing for a donation to Conservation Fisheries, Inc.

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Speaker 2: A Knoxville, Tennessee based nonprofit dedicated to conserving the unique

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Speaker 2: aquatic ecosystems of the Southeast. Kyle, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: How's it going.

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Speaker 2: We're doing very well, sir. Welcome to One Minute Fishing.

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Speaker 2: Have you been fishing? Have you pre fished this spot

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Speaker 2: this morning?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I have a called about eight or nine keeper crappie

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Speaker 10: and probably twenty twenty five in total this morning, so promised.

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Speaker 2: This sounds like a very promising start. We've been on

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Speaker 2: a bit of a dry spell here, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's understating it. So were eager to have someone in

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Speaker 2: the hot seat there who knows what they're doing. Well.

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Speaker 10: This pile, it's a tree top and this thing every

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Speaker 10: time I come up to it and I catch one

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Speaker 10: of my first casts usually, so I'm I have a

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Speaker 10: mess with it in like two hours. I'm hoping hoping

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Speaker 10: there's some crappy on it.

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Speaker 2: So oh that's dedication. I love it. What's your h now?

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Speaker 2: What's your rig there? What are you fishing with today?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 10: I got all. I just got a little spinning reel.

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Speaker 10: It's a fluger and a finwick rod and uh I

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Speaker 10: got live minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, live minos, you said, yeah, yeah, so it's kind

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Speaker 1: of cheating.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, you know, I have petfish at home in

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Speaker 10: my pond behind my house, and so if I really

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Speaker 10: wanted to cheat, I could.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this seems like a good earnest effort. It

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Speaker 2: looks like you're out there, uh, getting after it. So well,

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Speaker 2: your timer and your one minute will begin whenever you

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Speaker 2: make your first cast, So whenever you're ready, Kyle, take

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Speaker 2: a shot, all right.

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Speaker 10: Let's try.

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Speaker 2: And the timer is going.

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Speaker 3: Is it on a jighead?

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Speaker 10: I have a little split shot about six or eight

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Speaker 10: inches up, so that's the way, and just free lining it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 10: sometimes I'll use a bobber, but I use a free line.

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Speaker 2: It's like a beautiful piece of water there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is Flint Creek. So we we manage a

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Speaker 10: little grassland at the boat ramp here, but the state

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Speaker 10: lets us manage.

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Speaker 2: But twenty seconds twenty seconds on the clock here.

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Speaker 5: Pressure's on.

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Speaker 3: M would not want to be you right now.

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Speaker 2: Ten seconds left here, five seconds.

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Speaker 1: Time.

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Speaker 3: I think you just got to go with a ripping

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Speaker 3: hook set just to see.

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Speaker 10: Oh oh look does that count?

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Speaker 1: Oh god?

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Speaker 2: The old stickfish.

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Speaker 10: I mean, there is a fish on it.

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Speaker 11: But there he's got a point. It's no arguing with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kyle, I think next time we need to get

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Speaker 2: you out there for your first cast of the day.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you have a pretty good track record

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Speaker 2: when you first get in there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it's a you know, I think you'll need

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Speaker 10: to change it to like, you know, ninety seconds or something.

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll put that one past Steve, But he seems

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Speaker 2: pretty firmly committed to this bit.

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Speaker 10: So how many of you, how many have caught in

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Speaker 10: sixty seconds so far?

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Speaker 11: Pat Dirkin did, But that was I mean, that was

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Speaker 11: a special circumstance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we should have a meeting about this offline

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Speaker 2: and rethink the segment. But Kyle, I think you've raised

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Speaker 2: some very valid points here.

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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to make myself feel better.

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Speaker 2: So well, we appreciate you, uh getting out on the

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Speaker 2: water for us and uh showing us your your spot

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Speaker 2: there and good luck with the rest of your day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 10: Give me a chance so I have a good one.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see again here.

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Speaker 3: I did, like I got a call.

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Speaker 1: I saw one comment in there where somebody's asking for

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Speaker 1: current fishing conditions on Henry's Lake, Idaho.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what That's just the kind of community

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Speaker 3: we need, just.

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Speaker 2: Throwing it out into the universe.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, who knows what the show will become in

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Speaker 11: a year.

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Speaker 2: It could just be you know, oh yeah, just a

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Speaker 2: live fishing report exactly. Yeah, uh, Phil, Why don't we

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Speaker 2: take a little break here, get some listener feedback. What's

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Speaker 2: happening in the chat?

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Speaker 11: Let's do it.

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Speaker 9: Let's start off with a with a breezy one. I

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Speaker 9: don't I don't know if how people decorate their homes

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Speaker 9: for Christmas? If if anybody but Aaron's asking who at

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Speaker 9: meat Eater has the most festive house?

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Speaker 3: I know, Phil, put up lights?

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 9: I've got a very basic icicle lights set up with

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Speaker 9: a wreath on the door, nothing fancy. I've also got

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Speaker 9: a one story house, so I can't go too crazy.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, do you guys decorate the exterior of your

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Speaker 9: homes or the.

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Speaker 5: Entry of lights on our porch?

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Speaker 4: We're definitely like in our neighborhood where like the lame

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Speaker 4: House screach house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Phil, are you gonna play coy? Are you

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Speaker 2: gonna let people know you've seen the inside of my house?

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Speaker 11: Well, Randall, I happen to know that you have quite

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Speaker 11: a tree. We do.

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Speaker 2: We do have a big home.

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Speaker 11: You too, it's very impressive.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have the lame house from the outside, but

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Speaker 1: if you come in, there's gonna be a cold beer

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Speaker 1: and something good to eat.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not one or the other. You can have

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Speaker 2: it all.

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Speaker 3: Col not with the timeline I have.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen Cal's garage. He doesn't have any room

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Speaker 4: for distorre. Yeah, like ornaments in the season.

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Speaker 2: Might need to hang some new shelves from the ceiling there.

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Speaker 9: I'm actually I'm curious, you know the answer to this question.

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Speaker 9: Eric is asking the longest you've gone without punching a tag.

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Speaker 9: He says this is his second year in a row.

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Speaker 9: Have you guys had this speaking of dry spells.

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Speaker 3: M Oh yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: I've definitely definitely been there.

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Speaker 2: I don't have enough self restraint to not punch tags.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since I haven't killed anything. I

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Speaker 2: will say I went my first six or seven years

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Speaker 2: of elk hunting without shooting an elk, and I was

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Speaker 2: on a little streak there, seven years in a row

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Speaker 2: with bulls, and this year it.

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Speaker 4: Came to you were way ahead of the odds, So

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Speaker 4: you can't be too unhappy about.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty unhappy, Brodie. Actually, I figure I don't have

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Speaker 2: that many good elk cunning years left, you know with

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Speaker 2: my so I just I'm like when am I hurting,

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Speaker 2: I'll never get to eight.

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Speaker 4: You're already planning, like for your physical just debilitation to

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Speaker 4: the point where you can.

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Speaker 1: Keep after it. Eric, I mean, ill straighten itself out.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is is, like, man, there are there

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Speaker 1: are no days of failure in the woods. Like if

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Speaker 1: you're out there, if you're not killing, you're still learning

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Speaker 1: a lot more than somebody who's not out there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I will say too a couple of

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Speaker 2: those Like I can think of one bowl in particular.

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Speaker 2: We're about to pack up, and we said, before we

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Speaker 2: take the tpee down, let's just go for a little walk.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're out here, we might as well put

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Speaker 2: another fifteen minutes in. And I shot that bowl like

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Speaker 2: fifteen yards outside of the tepe. I got out there,

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Speaker 2: put my backpack on, took it off, and shot that thing.

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Speaker 2: It was just across the canyon. So it can happen

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Speaker 2: at any time, discouraged.

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Speaker 5: The more tags you have, the better your chances are.

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Speaker 2: That's true. We're pretty spoiled here. Yeah, you got all

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Speaker 2: kinds of seasons to hunt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 4: Little different, like when you live in a state where

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Speaker 4: you might may only have a chance at Like a dear.

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Speaker 9: Uh Tyler is asking a question for cal Phil Can

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Speaker 9: you ask Cal why no conservation organization right now is

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Speaker 9: dedicated to pronghorn? He could be incorrect. I don't know,

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Speaker 9: so I'm coming to you cal Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a ton of overlap in that space,

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Speaker 1: as with with everything. Habitat is is king habitat and connectivity,

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Speaker 1: and so you have like a bunch of groups working

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Speaker 1: on a new bill that would incentivize the preservation, conservation

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Speaker 1: and re establishment of grassland ecosystems in North America, which

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Speaker 1: we're losing at an incredibly alarming rate. Everybody should be

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Speaker 1: very concerned about this. They may announce the monarch butterfly

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Speaker 1: being put on the endangered species list, that is like,

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Speaker 1: if we can save the monarch butterfly, we're going to

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Speaker 1: be kicking ask for pronghorn.

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Speaker 3: So there.

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Speaker 1: I know there's some folks interested in starting up a

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Speaker 1: antelope prong horn specific organization, but don't feel like that

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Speaker 1: work isn't being done.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I like I do believe there is a

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Speaker 2: group that has recently incorporated and they're kind of bootstrapping

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Speaker 2: it and looking for funders. Yeah, and but I don't

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Speaker 2: know that much about it currently.

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Speaker 4: I mean MDF, Mule Deer Foundation, Sage Grouse Initiative, like

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Speaker 4: there's antelope are benefiting, like Cal said, from the work

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Speaker 4: of other organizations.

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Speaker 1: So I mean even like RMEF, like Migration Corridor Protection,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah.

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Speaker 4: That migration initiative that focuses on that ho back to

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Speaker 4: red desert migration, like the antelope use that migration corridor.

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Speaker 2: So but I will say, anaalope a cool critters, incredibly

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Speaker 2: cool tasty critters, and there are.

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Speaker 5: Definitely places where their numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah are and very fun to hunt, and so I

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Speaker 2: you know, it would be great if a prong horned

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Speaker 2: specific group could take off and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or or if some of these other orgs were

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Speaker 1: willing to like really get some dedicated funding in that space,

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Speaker 1: because there is some really unbelievable inconsistency on on how

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Speaker 1: those animals are managed at the state level, But there

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Speaker 1: are some federal and state dollars available for like animal

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Speaker 1: friendly fencing that that definitely need more help to.

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Speaker 9: So well, Jared is asking he has a neighbor who

672
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 9: raises breeder bucks and does how will that affect his hunting?

673
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 9: He can see the high fence from his blind. Do

674
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 9: you have any theory res or firsthand experience with this?

675
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: I got some.

676
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: We used guide on a ranch in Colorado and the

677
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: neighboring ranch was a high fence elk operation, and all

678
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: the bugling that would come off that high fence place

679
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: could could be helpful on the on the other side

680
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: of the fence.

681
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

682
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: I would think if a bunch of those dose are

683
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: going into Astris and they're you know, essentially chained up

684
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: at the neighbor's place, that yeah, that's some good scent attraction.

685
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: But you might want to going back to Doug and Pat.

686
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: You also might want to look into the whole c

687
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 4: w H get.

688
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: Your dear tested.

689
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully there's an exterior fence around the internior fence

690
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, ways of preventing any nose to

691
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: nose contact because those operations are inevitably a CWD HOTS

692
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: on the map.

693
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: I would be interested to learn what your experiences are.

694
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: Jareded with that, because I think it would be just

695
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: sort of a novel scenario to watch play out during

696
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: the rut.

697
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, cool, and we'll do one more for this little

698
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 9: segment here, Fantastic John is asking how he can convince

699
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 9: his girlfriend to allow him to put a shoulder mount

700
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 9: in the bedroom.

701
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: Good luck as it were for me.

702
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, pick your battles, I think.

703
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: Are we talking like a prong horned shoulder mount or

704
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: moose moose sick point bull elk?

705
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: Right?

706
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

707
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: How tall are your ceiling?

708
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: How big is the bedroom? How important is it for

709
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: you to put a shoulder mount in the bedroom. I

710
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: feel like I have pretty free reign of the house

711
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to stacking skulls and you know, bear rugs.

712
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: Now, eventually that might end.

713
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: Though we reached a satur Yeah there's a point, we're

714
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: at the saturation point.

715
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: But I've never it's it's never really uh come to

716
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: a point where I felt compelled to hang on in

717
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: the bed.

718
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: There's too many unanswered questions here, like is this the

719
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 4: only thing this guy would have in his house or

720
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: does he already have a bunch?

721
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: Yes, the bedroom the only place without a shoulder mountain.

722
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Plus, if you guys are still boyfriend girlfriend, just do it.

723
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll find out if you're gonna get married her.

724
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: And that's our segment of Cal's relationship advice, just test boundaries. Alrighty,

725
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: now it's time for another round of Top three.

726
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 5: Wow Phil hitting the high notes there.

727
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: That was incredible. I will say for a little behind

728
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: the scenes look at how things go here. I was

729
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: in this studio bright and early, and Phil came in

730
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: and he said, can you please leave? I need to

731
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: record a drop And I said sure. I said, would

732
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: you like me to put a do not disturb sign

733
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: on the door, to which he replied, yes, This might

734
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: be the most embarrassing thing I've ever done. I know,

735
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: I think you're perfectly I mean, you didn't have time

736
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: to auto tune that.

737
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 9: No, that song, really it really shows you the limits

738
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 9: of your singing abilities.

739
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: That's go straight from the pipes. I'd take that as

740
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: a that gets my stamp of approval, Phil, Great, Thank

741
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: you boy. Thursday is my favorite. This week we'll be

742
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: ranking our preferred species of fish and game for the table,

743
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: or talking the critters that you're reaching for if they're

744
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: in the freezer. Brody will start with you. What's your

745
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: number three choice?

746
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 5: Am I doing all three or just my third choice?

747
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: Let's go and row. Let's go your third, cows third,

748
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: my third, your second cow sick in my second, Okay,

749
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: and then we'll continue that pattern.

750
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: But I am going to say that I think that

751
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 4: this is one of those like tough and almost kind

752
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: of meaningless ranking systems because I like all kinds of

753
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: wild fishing game and it's kind of.

754
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: Like based on the time of year.

755
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: Like I don't have any wild turkey brass in my

756
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 4: freezer right now, so like if I had some, that

757
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 4: would be my favorite thing to eat.

758
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 5: I'm just just.

759
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: Putting I was gonna I was going to expect that

760
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: from cow.

761
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it totally changes you disagree with.

762
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: The press, Yeah, I think I think in the spirit

763
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: of this of this segment, if it's in the freezer

764
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: and you think I have X, Y or Z freezer,

765
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: like what what which one are you most commonly going

766
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: to reach for?

767
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: It's well, I don't know that it's a common thing either, right,

768
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 4: It's like it might be you only have a little

769
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: bit of it.

770
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: Exactly, Brody, what's your number three choice?

771
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's like there's a lot to think about here, Randall,

772
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: I'll say king salmon, because I only got a little

773
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: bit of that stuff left right now. And it's like,

774
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: if you've had the different kinds of Pacific salmon, there's

775
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 4: like no question that nocean cock king is the best

776
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 4: of them, batty, delicious, No man, King's got kings. King's

777
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: like bigger and better and it's a cooler fish.

778
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 5: Everything about it.

779
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: It's good. Col what's your number three?

780
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Elk?

781
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: Care to elaborate on the reason behind your choice.

782
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: Elk is a fine meat, but I don't find elk

783
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: to be very flavorful at this point in my life.

784
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 4: There's a lot of variability too, man, Like you shoot

785
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: an old cow, you.

786
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 5: Might break a tooth on that thing, or it could

787
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 5: be super could be super tender.

788
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: That cow in the in the picture you literally pulled

789
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: her ivories out what was left of them with your fingers,

790
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: like they fell out super old cow and she was

791
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: delicious yep. But like I have a bowl in the

792
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: freezer right now, and the tenderline was like, this is

793
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: going to take a while.

794
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the safest bet is to shoot

795
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: a young raghorn bull because then you know it's not old.

796
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, timing as early as possible or as

797
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: late as possible.

798
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I went for elk as well, and the

799
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: reasons for that are versatility and quantity. There's there's a

800
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: lot of especially with all that ground and sausage, there's

801
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: a lot you can do with it, and so it's

802
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: kind of just our go to and it's also our

803
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: go to because there's a lot of it for every

804
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: elk you kill. Mm hmm, yep, Brody, what's your number

805
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: two here?

806
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd I'd probably go with some white meat game

807
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: bird like blue grouse.

808
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 5: Well, i'd go with wild.

809
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: Turkey just because you get more of it. I don't know, know,

810
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: I'm going with blue grouse. It's better than wild turkey.

811
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: Blue grouse is fantastic.

812
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: What are you doing with that?

813
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 4: Typically all different kinds of stuff, man, like you can't beat.

814
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 4: Just like I like to save the legs from all

815
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 4: my game birds and then do something with those. But

816
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: like the breast from a blue grouse pounded out, just

817
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: battered and fried on a sandwich.

818
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: It's hard to beat.

819
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, col number two, I say mule deer. So

820
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'd like I really for whatever reason, don't

821
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: find uh, you know, even trying to kill big old bucks,

822
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: like I don't find them.

823
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 10: Uh.

824
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Chewy, and they have more flavor than elk, So I'd

825
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: prefer mule deer over elk.

826
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Big mule deer, all right.

827
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: That are living the life of mule deer, a good

828
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: life far away from agriculture.

829
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

830
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

831
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: I went with salmon for my number two, and I

832
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: couldn't decide between sakkai or king, so I just went

833
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: with the generic salmon. But I like sake if it's

834
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: just going on the grill, but I feel like king

835
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: is more maybe a little more firstile, like for a

836
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: chowder you have all that extra.

837
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 5: Fat and slicing it up and eating it raw.

838
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love it. I love having a big

839
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: pile of salmon in the freezer. And for your number

840
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: one selection, Brody.

841
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: Well, I got a shitload of moose in the freezer

842
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: right now, so that's my favorite.

843
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 5: But actually like it. I think out of.

844
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: The different servid species, moose has like and this is

845
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: going to sound weird, some people be like, no way,

846
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: but I think it's like it has a beefier flavor

847
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: than other deer species. It's like noticeable and it's like

848
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: you you take a bite of that stuff and it's like, yeah,

849
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: that's that's like good, good meat and yeah, so I'm

850
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: glad I got a lot of it right now.

851
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be enjoying that one for a while.

852
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: Ducks, Mallard Ducks or you know Mallard Wigeon, Gadwall fat tails.

853
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, something with fat. Yep.

854
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that is my Are you familiar with this

855
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: like girl dinner phenomenon that? Oh yeah, you know that's

856
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: my girl dinner.

857
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Like I so cal call and snored on the couch. Yeah,

858
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: with a rom com on.

859
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: It'll eat a hole with it. Yeah, I love it.

860
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: So throat on the grill with a big fireball that

861
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: maybe comes close to burning down your friends on the

862
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: fourth of July.

863
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that type of duck's bread to sop up

864
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: that fat with Yeah, salt, fat, protein, medium, rare blood

865
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: all around.

866
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Yep.

867
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: Like that speaks speaks to a person.

868
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: Hard to beat.

869
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

870
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: I was surprised. Uh. My number one choice is antelope.

871
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 5: Man.

872
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: If I get an antelope in the freezer or in

873
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: some years multiple analope in the freezer, that stuff just

874
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: goes so quickly because it's simple, you know, seer it,

875
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: cook it, rare salt, and you don't need much else

876
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: because it's just got so much flavor on its own.

877
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: Yep.

878
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: So I thought I thought this was going to be

879
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: uh more of a boring segment because it would be

880
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: on the same page. But I like that we got

881
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of variety here.

882
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I do side with Brody. Here is like,

883
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, some seasons of plenty in one protein department

884
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Like I mean, last two years ago, I

885
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: had two big chunks of blue fin tuna mm hmm,

886
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, holy shit, man, I.

887
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: Thought there was another way to approach this, where it

888
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: was what's one wildfish or game species that's been in

889
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: your freezer once that you'd like to see back in there.

890
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like Musko's loin is I think unique and

891
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: really really fantastic, like big.

892
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 5: Horn sheep battie delicious yep.

893
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: Hard to acquire, Yeah.

894
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 2: Hard to acquire. Yeah, I'd go with mountain lion.

895
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: Mountain Lion's fantastic.

896
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: If I could shoot a mountain lion every year instead

897
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: of a deer, I'd probably do that just for variety.

898
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, variety is the key man. You

899
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: can get sick of anything, Like you to have the

900
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: best elk in the world, but if you're eating it

901
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 4: every day, you're gonna get sick of it eventually.

902
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

903
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Like you had a long stretch of being up to

904
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: my ears and elk meat and not hunting elk for

905
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: a few seasons, I haven't been like missing elk in

906
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: the freezer, you know.

907
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: M Well, thanks for playing along, gents, will come up

908
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: with a more compelling clearcut prompt for our next top

909
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: three segment.

910
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, always room to improve, you know.

911
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: Our next segment is meat Eater movie Club.

912
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 9: Oh love what you did there, Phil, It's a menadrie.

913
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: The nineteen seventy eight or perhaps nineteen seventy six. I

914
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: found a few discrepancies in various sources for when this

915
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: film was released. The nineteen seven eight film Buffalo Rider,

916
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: directed by John Fabian, Dick Robinson, and George Loris, stars

917
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: stuntman Rick Gwynn as Jake Buffalo Jones, a frontiersman who

918
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: tames an American bison and uses it as his primary

919
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: mode of transportation while battling both natural elements and human adversaries.

920
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: The film's plot follows Jones, the writer, and his companion

921
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: Sampson the Buffalo, through a series of increasingly outlandish adventures

922
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: across the frontier. Their primary antagonist is the ruthless market

923
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: hunter Frank Nesbitt, who the narrator tells us quote loves

924
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 2: the killing, and his unsavory gang of hide skinners, Ralph

925
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: Pearson ted Claiborne, who serve as the film's central villains.

926
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: While most peculiar to a contemporary audience, Buffalo Riter's unconventional construction,

927
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: a rough cobbling together of pre existing wildlife footage, stage scenes,

928
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: buffalo riding stunts, and excessive narration, is representative of the

929
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: low budget exploitation filmmaking of the nineteen seventies. This genre

930
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: emphasized shocking violence, lurid sexuality, and unusual spectacle to draw

931
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: audiences away from the production values and narrative coherence of

932
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: mainstream Hollywood cinema. Beyond a simple representative example of this

933
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: particular style, however, Buffalo Writer serves as a rich text

934
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: that emerged from and reflected the speci the specific historical

935
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: conditions of its creation. Its chaotic, almost anarchic production reflects,

936
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: no doubt unintentionally, America's fractured cultural landscape in the nineteen seventies.

937
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: This was an era of profound disillusionment in American life.

938
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: The Watergate scandal had shattered public faith in authority and

939
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: established institutions, the Vietnam War had ended in humiliation, and

940
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: economic stagflation was eroding middle class stability. In nineteen seventy nine,

941
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: only one year after the release of Buffalo Writer, President

942
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: Carter would deliver his famous Crisis of Confidence speech, diagnosing

943
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: a nation that had lost its sense of purpose and

944
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: direction in many respects. The confusing structure and seemingly arbitrary

945
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: narrative choices of Buffalo Writer embody the fraying coherence that

946
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: Americans in the late nineteen seventies saw all around them.

947
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: Perhaps most obviously, the film's technical shortcomings. Its rough editing

948
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: and consistent tone, and apparent lack of quality control reflect

949
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: the decade's material constraints. Likewise, the prevalent drug culture of

950
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: the decade might help explain some of the film's more

951
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: bizarre creative decisions. The inexplicable genre hopping between wildlife documentary

952
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: and Western adventure, the replacement of dialogue with unceasing descriptive narration,

953
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: and sequences like the Buffalo in a Saloon shootout suggest

954
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: a production process operating on its own might I suggest,

955
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 2: chemically altered logic, Perhaps most poignantly, much like the nascent

956
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: environmental movement of the nineteen seventies, which struggled to reconcile

957
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: ecological concern with embedded cultural practices and market forces, Buffalo

958
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: Riders environmental message, while sincere, is undermined by its own contradictions.

959
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: Just as the villainized hide hunters within it, the narrative

960
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 2: exploit wildlife for profit, the filmmakers themselves commodify animal violence

961
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: for monetized entertainment value. As the film's catchy theme song

962
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: rolls over the end credits, the viewer can't help but

963
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 2: wrestle with an unresolvable tension between our heroes guiding ethos

964
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: and the commercial imperatives of artistic production in capitalist society.

965
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: Viewed through this lens, Buffalo Rider becomes more than just

966
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: a badly made movie. It serves as an inadvertent cultural

967
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: artifact capturing the disorientation of American life in the late

968
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies. It's very incoherence tells us something about a

969
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: moment when American society itself seemed to be coming a

970
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: part at the seams, when the old certainties of post

971
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: war prosperity and progress were dissolving, and new truths had

972
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 2: yet to emerge. I give it a ten out of ten,

973
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 2: and for your viewing pleasure, I am pleased to share

974
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 2: one of the YouTube clips that gave this film something

975
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: of a renaissance in recent years. We're going to watch

976
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: a brief excerpt from episode two of Guy on a

977
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo by the band Jomo and the Possum Posse out

978
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: of Austin in Texas. Please Phil take it away.

979
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 3: One day, the guy on the buffalo hopped off.

980
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 5: To stretch his legs, walk in the bill.

981
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Hey wants to send the weeds. It's a baby, awesome

982
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: and put it in a saddle, hopped on, hoped.

983
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: It up the hill and across the blame drying across

984
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: the river. Not gonna happen, man riding on a buffalo

985
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: member or keep the baby up floating with your.

986
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 11: Guy out the buffalo. Gotta find your friends.

987
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: She's barish, guya love, Hey, you want this baby?

988
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: She put then a doch you guy.

989
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 5: You're welcome. Lady.

990
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 11: Gotta bull it on on of my.

991
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: Guy on a full loop. One day the guy on

992
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: the buffalo walked off.

993
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: It's so good.

994
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: It is so good.

995
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: No, no better than the movie in Fast.

996
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 3: Well.

997
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: The thing is is, this is how the movie is narrated.

998
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: It's like and now he's doing this and this and this.

999
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: That's what's striking to me.

1000
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: Got you're straight out and got my back.

1001
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: Okay, this scene where he shows the scars on his back,

1002
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: it's like, well, understand that, get.

1003
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: Out of here. So there's the animal violence. Yeah, multiple

1004
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 3: times in this show.

1005
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: Thank you, Phil.

1006
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 3: Definitely get kicked by a buffalo.

1007
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: Thank you Phil. So I do have a bit of

1008
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: research that I'm tickled to share with you, uh as

1009
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: a bit of a prelude to our discussion. I found

1010
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: an article, uh that was published by the Canadian Broadcasting Company.

1011
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: Is mister Gwyn who plays Jake Jones is now Burton.

1012
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 6: So.

1013
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: The film was filmed in Utah and Oregon and the

1014
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: lead actor, Rick Guinn, was working for a company that

1015
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: supplied animals for film productions. He was in Missouri to

1016
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: purchase some mules and someone offered to sell him a

1017
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: buffalo as well. He decided to try to tame it

1018
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: so that he could ride it, and he was successful

1019
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: in doing so, and then some filmmakers saw him do

1020
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: that and said, do you want to star in a

1021
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: movie about a man who rides a buffalo? So that's

1022
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: how we got this film. Many many of the scenes

1023
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: were unscripted, and they simply captured what happens when a

1024
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: man is on top of a buffalo. According to Gwinn quote,

1025
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 2: there's still a wild animal, and they feel a little different.

1026
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: They're a little more stubborn and not as smart as

1027
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: a horse. It seems his fall off Samson in the

1028
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: film was in fact a real fall that resulted in injuries.

1029
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: To questioning that.

1030
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: My favorite detail, the mountain lion attack in the film,

1031
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: was in fact a mountain lion attack. The lion was

1032
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: being filmed on the same property for a different production

1033
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: when it escaped the production ran onto the set of

1034
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo Rider and attacked mister gwyn.

1035
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 5: But it wasn't a wild mountain lion.

1036
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: I mean it attacked him. It was being filmed for

1037
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: like a nature show, and so it it attacked him.

1038
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 2: The cameras just happened to be rolling as he was

1039
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: filming a hunting scene. According to Gwynn quote, I had

1040
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: to kind of fight him off. It was a life

1041
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 2: or death situation. I kind of had to do something

1042
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: real quick. We had lots of shots like that that

1043
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: were just built in the movie that were accidents. Just

1044
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: changed the script a little bit and continued on.

1045
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: But that mountain lion obviously didn't have full Yeah, but

1046
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: when they showed his injuries, those were real injuries.

1047
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were like they were and.

1048
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: That was a real lion.

1049
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: Had been a real lion, yeah, there, a fully intact

1050
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: lion injuries would have been.

1051
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 5: The fact that they escaped production.

1052
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. The fact that you guys are not listen, I

1053
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: think it's amazing.

1054
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: You're not enthralled by the idea that that lion attack

1055
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: was totally listen.

1056
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: I have to point something else out here. The fact

1057
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: that that buffalo comes out of Missouri is very telling

1058
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: because you can tell that that thing has a lot

1059
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: of beef Caligi.

1060
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yes, So just general thoughts on

1061
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: the film.

1062
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: It's a beefalow.

1063
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: It held my attention for less time than your review

1064
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 4: of the film did and then went back to cleaning guns.

1065
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're crazy, man. Listen. I would watch.

1066
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: This over Escanaba in the moonlight. Yeah, nine out of ten. Absolutely.

1067
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: I loved the You know if you're you know, old

1068
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: enough to remember like the old the big Long run

1069
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: a Disney movies. Yeah, right, yeah, this is like right

1070
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: in that genre. And then yeah, it has all this

1071
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: like very gratuitous like you know, Nature document What was

1072
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: that guy's name who Grizzly the nature guy who they

1073
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: found out like a lot of the animals in the

1074
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: Nature documents his name.

1075
00:57:59,720 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1076
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: Uh anyways, yeah, I know you'd be like synonymous with

1077
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: nature for a long time. But anyway, yeah, I mean

1078
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: in just crazy departures.

1079
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: And Bandit the Raccoon.

1080
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: To me, it's it's hilarious because there's like some filmmaking

1081
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: one oh one right where it's like, well, if you're

1082
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: going to talk about it, you have to show it. Yeah,

1083
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: and it's be like so then he got on the

1084
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: track and it looked like that of a mule track,

1085
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, there's Jake on the track.

1086
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: Except I liked the part in the film where they

1087
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: mentioned a character who never appears on the stream. He's

1088
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: like he talked to the sheriff and the sheriff said

1089
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: it was okay.

1090
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 4: So he went on, Oh, there's a lot of filling

1091
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: in of gaps with the narration because otherwise.

1092
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: There would just be no story and it's just constant narration,

1093
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: which is what are There.

1094
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 2: Is a saying in showbiz, you know, it's it's show,

1095
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: don't tell, and they took that axiom and flipped it

1096
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: on its head and it's like, we're actually just going

1097
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: to tell you things that are happening that you won't

1098
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: see happen.

1099
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the scenery was great, was great, strongest part of

1100
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 1: the movie. There's wildlife so well that the actors weren't

1101
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: going to carry any part of this that it's like

1102
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: just lean on the scenery, the narration, and the animals.

1103
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: Oh the line, the line delivery was insane.

1104
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 4: What I want to know is like the people who

1105
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: made this movie was it made? Were they serious about

1106
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: like this is like a movie or were they just

1107
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 4: fucking around?

1108
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 5: I believe they.

1109
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: I believe there were.

1110
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: There's a messing around came before it was an actual

1111
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: movie and then somebody was like, yeah, we're gonna pay

1112
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: for this.

1113
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: Oh God.

1114
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: There was a quote from uh Rick Gwynn that it

1115
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 2: was essentially just like meant to be a fun, silly

1116
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: family wildlife movie with a bit of adventure. So I

1117
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: don't think it was like done as a parody, right,

1118
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, like it's just like a fever dream.

1119
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: Like at one point they go with the racket. They

1120
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: follow the raccoon, and the lion tries to drown it,

1121
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: but then the lion is in the cold deep water

1122
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: and it can't drown it. So the raccoon gets away

1123
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: and then rides an ice rides a ice flow. Yeah,

1124
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: rides an ice flow down the river, thinks.

1125
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: Long and hard before he comes near that river again.

1126
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. On the next scene, phenomenal the.

1127
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: The Pioneer lady, her acting, I mean, they they make

1128
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: the decision to stick with her long. You can see

1129
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: her like emotional wind up to her line, but they

1130
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: show all of that. I mean, it's it's really amazing.

1131
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: It's like it seems like so weird and such an

1132
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: outlier now fifty years later or whatever, but really it's

1133
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 4: not that unusual.

1134
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 5: For the seventies. They made a lot of weird movies.

1135
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: Go back and watch easy. You're like Rancho Deluxe, Rancho DELX.

1136
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: The raccoon scene in this film reminded me of the

1137
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: like ten minute sex scene in the middle of Rancho Deluxe,

1138
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: And you're like, why did they do this. Were they

1139
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: just filming time? It didn't need to be in this movie.

1140
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: But Sydney had a theory that the raccoon was important

1141
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: because when Buffalo Jones returned the infant to the ranch,

1142
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: you know that the raccoon would have to nurse the

1143
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: baby to health because they made a big point to

1144
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: say that it was a female raccoon to everyone's surprise.

1145
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the big reveal, and he got.

1146
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: Cobbler and Stu or something. I mean, it was just.

1147
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would watch this folks at home. Yeah, I mean,

1148
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: this is going to surprise you. It's great. Like there's

1149
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you're probably numbing your mind

1150
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: with on Netflix.

1151
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: Check this one out.

1152
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: And I will say the beginning of it, when they're

1153
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: out lining the historical context is pretty solid.

1154
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, like historically or the man? Right?

1155
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 5: So how accurate is what they were?

1156
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Buffalo Jones is a real person who's life

1157
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: in no way movie the.

1158
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 5: Whole thing was depicted.

1159
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was for the.

1160
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 5: Conflict in the movie.

1161
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 2: Well they they I mean, these guys had one pack

1162
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: animal and they were hide hunters, so they wouldn't have

1163
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: gotten very far, you know, typically I think they would

1164
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: have operated with a few wagons. But the way that

1165
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: they hunted them, like when he's talking about shooting the

1166
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: lead cow and then shooting the whole herd. I mean

1167
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff is straight out of like

1168
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: the sources that you read, right, and the stand hunting

1169
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: like going up and getting you know, sneaking up on herd,

1170
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: getting down prone. He even had the shooting sticks at

1171
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: one point, Like that's something.

1172
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: That they did some some solid research and laying out

1173
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 4: the cartridges.

1174
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that all seemed.

1175
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: And the guys like when the guys like the narrator

1176
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: like then they got the sharps, the big fifty sharps

1177
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: and they were shooting him. I forget he I think

1178
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: he said like to six fifty. Yeah, I don't know

1179
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: how how you know accurate that is. But from the

1180
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: beginning of it, I was like, man, if this is

1181
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: like a documentary or something produced for high schoolers, like

1182
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: this would be pretty informed.

1183
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 11: That's exactly what it reminded me of.

1184
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 9: Like I'm just old enough to remember, like the substitute

1185
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 9: teacher comes in and rents out like an old VHS

1186
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 9: from the av department and puts it on and like mister.

1187
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: Jones has a fever, and so I'm gonna just play

1188
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: this film for you to continue our lesson on the

1189
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: West and the destruction of the Bison.

1190
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1191
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 4: I said this earlier, but I do think Steve would

1192
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: take issue with with demonizing the buffalo hunters. Oh yeah,

1193
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 4: I like, which is not an uncommon thing in movies, Like.

1194
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: Sure, and I did like that they were just like

1195
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: basically thirteen year olds who got into wrestling matches at

1196
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: the drop of a hat. But the one the one

1197
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: guy did have a conscience. He did say at some point, uh,

1198
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: he killed the woman. Oh, shoot, you didn't have to

1199
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: do that. And then he says killing women ain't good.

1200
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: So killing women ain't no good. That comes from Ralph.

1201
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: So I mean they did have there were there was

1202
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: some depth to those characters, but the main hunter, rather

1203
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: than his skinners, seemed to be sort of an unredeemable figure.

1204
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: When they first focus, you know, nobody gets to jump

1205
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: on Frank Nesbit. Yeah, some line like that, and then

1206
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: the narrators like Frank Nesbit told everybody about a guy

1207
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: riding a buffalo, and then it's like in the saloon,

1208
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: he's like there's.

1209
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 3: A guy riding a buffalo.

1210
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: And then he goes up to the bar and he's like,

1211
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: there's a guy riding a buffalo.

1212
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: We saw him two days from here.

1213
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 6: Oh.

1214
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: There's also these nuggets in there that you wonder, like

1215
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: where they going to do something else? Because the camera

1216
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: when he when he rides the buffalo into the saloon,

1217
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: the camera makes a point to show you that it

1218
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: knocks over the stove, and we were just waiting for

1219
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: the saloon to go up in flames, you know, and

1220
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: and and then there was really no point.

1221
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 5: For the camera. Too much plot for this.

1222
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1223
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also a point where I do wonder if

1224
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: it was a stuffed buffalo head that knocks over the

1225
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: card table in that scene, because it was just a

1226
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: weird cutaway. Also odd like frank Nesbit and the boys

1227
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: are are bad people and Buffalo Jones concentrates of the

1228
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: gunfight on the auxiliary character and frank Nesbitt never gets

1229
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: a shot off.

1230
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:42,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like.

1231
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: Well, okay, it also seems.

1232
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: It was the only fly I found in the well.

1233
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: I think my favorite part of the film was that

1234
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: they ordered Gin and Tonics, a classic frontier drink. Give

1235
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: me that watch, we're getting a couple of gin and tonics.

1236
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: And then the fact that they had sort of a

1237
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: dual ending where they filmed the saloon shootout and then

1238
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, it shouldn't end here. Why don't

1239
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: we just have one of these guys.

1240
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: Not be here? My dad told it.

1241
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: And then the buffalo can kill him.

1242
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. But then, man, the chase scene at the end

1243
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: goes like.

1244
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: It's phenomenal, It's great.

1245
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: I would watch this again.

1246
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: It takes that mule a little while to get going though,

1247
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: Like the first two minutes of the chase, the mule

1248
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: just seems.

1249
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: To interesting deal there too. Where'd the mule come?

1250
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: Now?

1251
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: Did they steal the mule from the wagon train? I guess,

1252
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: but no, no saddle.

1253
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're asking too many questions.

1254
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: I thought it was very strange that they didn't take

1255
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: the wagon itself, because the primary their primary motivation in

1256
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: all this was just logistics. They wanted to be able

1257
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: to transport more hides, and so they killed his family

1258
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: and then they leave the wagon there. But like the

1259
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: reason that they first tangle up with buffalo Jones because

1260
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: he looks at the buffalo and he says, boy, that

1261
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,479
Speaker 2: could carry a lot of stuff. Let's kill that guy

1262
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: and take his take his mode of transportation.

1263
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1264
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the whole time the costumes, I just kept

1265
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: thinking I was watching like a Jethrow Toll documentary. It

1266
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: was just like it was like, ye, if you tamed

1267
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: back the fringe just a little bit and added like

1268
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: a feather in the hair, were at Woodstock all of

1269
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: a sudden.

1270
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: Well no, I mean yeah, they're in easy Writer. Yeah right,

1271
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 3: I mean.

1272
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 4: That's Hie seventy one that much different from the eighteen seventies.

1273
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Like no, I mean the fashion was po wore.

1274
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 5: The same kind of shit. It all, it all comes

1275
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 5: there dirty, like yeah. Yeah.

1276
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: The I thought that Buffalo Jones really had a very

1277
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: striking resemblance to like nineteen seventies, you know, portrayals of Jesus.

1278
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: The long hair, the beard, and he's just always sort

1279
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: of has his contemplative look on his face. There was

1280
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: a lot to unpack here.

1281
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: There was there a real buffalo being shot, yes, and

1282
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: definitely real dogs being kicked, and definitely a real mountain

1283
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: lion getting punched in the face.

1284
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that first buffalo that gets shot in the neck. Yeah,

1285
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: I read somewhere someone claimed that they had trained them to.

1286
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 5: Fall when that's rubber bullets, but yeah, I don't think so.

1287
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 4: That's I have interesting to find out when Hollywood really

1288
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 4: started cracking down on that stuff, because like animals got.

1289
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 5: Shot and like.

1290
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 3: Stampede scenes, like somebody's breaking the legs.

1291
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of horses get killed in Hollywood. Boy,

1292
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: thanks for indulging me and taking an hour and twenty

1293
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: eight minutes of your time to review that film, because

1294
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: that just tickled me to death.

1295
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh again, I'd watched that over asking abb in the Moonlight.

1296
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: And thanks to our audience for the recommendation that one

1297
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: did come to our inbox as a as a suggested

1298
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: film for discussions, So thanks very much for that. It

1299
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: was just a real pleasure, Phil. I think that's about

1300
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: time for today. But do we have any more items

1301
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 2: from the chat that you like?

1302
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 9: Sure you've got a few, not not a whole lot.

1303
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 9: Came in and John's just asking a general bow question.

1304
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 9: What bo's did you guys use this year, if any,

1305
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 9: and are you excited for any new ones?

1306
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: A six milimeter creed more.

1307
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: I got a rob Lee bow out of Texas new

1308
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: re curve that is absolutely bad ass.

1309
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 3: I love it.

1310
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: It's the first new bow I've had in a long time,

1311
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: really really awesome, awesome bow, and I'm not looking for

1312
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: another one.

1313
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't add anything to that.

1314
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: Great.

1315
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 9: Mountain Bucks is asking if you've ever eaten Bobcat and

1316
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 9: what's better, Mountain Lion or Bobcat.

1317
01:09:59,240 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 6: I have.

1318
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: I've had Mountain Lion tacos a couple of times.

1319
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it's it's good.

1320
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think I'm eating Bobcat.

1321
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 5: I have. It's very similar. Yeah, I think you can.

1322
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 4: You get the right line, You're gonna it's gonna be

1323
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 4: a little fattier.

1324
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you just have more to work with,

1325
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, like those loins and stuff on. These animals

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Speaker 1: have a lot more sinew, and so yeah.

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Speaker 4: You probably get more meat off of what like a

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: wild turkey gobbler then you'd get off of a Bobcat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah probably, Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Cal, what's your beer of choice?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 9: Some typos in this in this question, So I'm kind

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Speaker 9: of just making an assumption that that's what you're.

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Speaker 11: Asking, kind of like you don't like beer or lights

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Speaker 11: of your.

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Speaker 3: Choice right now?

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Speaker 1: There always used to be like all these good seasonal

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Speaker 1: dark beers that come out around Christmas time and for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, and here in bos Angelus, you know, cultural Mecca,

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Speaker 1: you can't get any of them.

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Speaker 2: So that's the only part of the War on Christmas

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Speaker 2: that's succeeding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Phil found jubile Ale and that's good stuff. Nincossi

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Speaker 1: had I think it's Nincosi had Slayer.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, So Nincosi used to distribute to southwest Montana

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Speaker 9: and then there was some some some distribution of war

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Speaker 9: happening and and uh, someone pissed someone off, and then

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Speaker 9: they stopped distributing.

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Speaker 1: Nincossia was a Slayer was good? Yeah, yeah, So I like,

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Speaker 1: I like both ends of the spectrum. Love Rainier when

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Speaker 1: it's hot, and uh, you know, you just want to refreshing,

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: very light, generic logger. But other than that, it's got

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01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: to have some some flavor, like a really good pilsner

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Speaker 1: or get into the dark beers.

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Speaker 2: Got a six pack of the Bavic super Pills.

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Speaker 3: That's a Bombic super Pills. Yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 9: And then just for the freaks out there, another plug

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01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 9: for the meat Eater Dungeons and dragon session. I'm saying

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Speaker 9: this on record. It will happen in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you will ever see it.

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Speaker 2: It might not be official.

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Speaker 11: No, it will not be official.

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Speaker 9: It will be It will probably be me in the

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Speaker 9: Spencer's kitchen, hopefully Randall's there and a couple other people.

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Speaker 2: When you asked me to join your dungeon or whatever

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01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: it's called, I did say yes, you did. I preface

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: that with the caveat that I don't know what I'm doing,

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Speaker 2: but I'm I'm down.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And if if any of you know any sort

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Speaker 9: of outdoor like hunting, animal tracking centered one shots, let

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Speaker 9: me know, because I'm probably not gonna write my own

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Speaker 9: m because I'm lazy and not that good.

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Speaker 11: So hit me up.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you to explain one shots for

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01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: me once we sign off here.

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Speaker 11: Yes, sounds good.

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Speaker 9: Uh, and yeah, I think that's all we got for questions. Well,

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 9: we're already we're alread running a little long here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a meaty episode. Before we go, I

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Speaker 2: would like to make a couple of quick announcements. We

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Speaker 2: are in fact going to do a great American venison

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01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: jerky competition, and we will have more details for you

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01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: in the new year. In the meantime, start perfecting your

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01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: venison jerky recipes. And thanks to everyone who already emailed

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: us about their jerky. The inbox has been overwhelmed with

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Speaker 2: interest from prospective contestants and we appreciate your enthusiasm. Also,

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned last week, we will be pre recording

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 2: episodes for the holiday break and we would like to

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: address listener questions. So if you have a burning hunting

1390
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 2: and fishing question that you'd like the crew to answer,

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Speaker 2: send it along to Radio at the meat Eater dot com.

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 2: That's Radio at the meat Eater dot com and looking

1393
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: forward to recording that episode. It should be a fun,

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: fun little hour of discussion. With that, I'll just remind

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01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: you to get those holiday orders in quickly so your

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Speaker 2: gifts arrive in time for Christmas. Keep an eye out

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Speaker 2: for our restock of the fucked Up old shitters calonder

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Speaker 2: and we'll sign off from Bozeman, Montana. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: joining us.

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Speaker 5: Happy holidays,