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Speaker 1: the pads. What makes some noise? Good work? Good work.

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Speaker 1: Your Houston Texans are back for training camp. Trust each

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Speaker 1: other and trust the process. Trust what we're doing. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Texans Training Camp Live. Your sideline pass to the

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Speaker 1: Texans Training Camp Live is presented by Exfinity. Now let's

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Speaker 1: go down to the Houston Methodist Training Center. Here are

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Mark Vandermere and John Harris. Good morning everyone,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermir, John Harris. Like the man said, and when

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Speaker 1: Seth and Sean leave and we take over, it's like

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Speaker 1: a hockey line change. Okay, we just come right out

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Speaker 1: of the box and here we go, skating on and

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Speaker 1: scoring goals. When hockey sound people up hockey South good

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Speaker 1: when it's ninety degrees. By the way, just being around

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Speaker 1: now you have Disney on ice and that comes to

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Speaker 1: Here we're out at the Houston Methodist Training Center and

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Speaker 1: it is another gorgeous Houston day for training camp. That's

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Speaker 1: positive thinking, Johnny, gorgeous, beautiful sunny day. I was talking

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Speaker 1: overcast rain. Yeah. Nice, you over there though, clouds, it's

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Speaker 1: was funny. I was talking to Andre Roberts, who you'll

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Speaker 1: He's from the South. And I said to him after

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Speaker 1: believe it's from South Carolina. Yeah, that haven't checked his

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Speaker 1: actual location. I know he went to the Citadel. I

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Speaker 1: thought the same thing, that South Carolina should be really

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Speaker 1: let's let's get to some of the hot reads on

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Speaker 1: the day here, and obviously the big one yesterday that

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Speaker 1: swept to the country was the presence of Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: here at this camp, Johnny, and we're not going to

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Speaker 1: ignore those stories. We will dive deeper into the deep

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Speaker 1: album cuts as we put them, the stories about this camp,

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Speaker 1: getting the team ready to play in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and all the important issues position groups, players, everybody that

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Speaker 1: clearly it's a huge story here. And look, we addressed

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Speaker 1: it during the show yesterday. There's a presence here of

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Speaker 1: Traded it La to bring back Brandy Cooks. So if

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Speaker 1: don't remember this team having this kind of depth and

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Speaker 1: it's a lot to ask to say, hey, doing it

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Speaker 1: I have Philip Lindsay step up, because hey, he's never

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Speaker 1: He'll be good. So those two guys alone plus Ingram

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Speaker 1: should make it interesting. David Johnson, he had not missed

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Speaker 1: those four games with a concussion, would have been like

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirty five yards rushing. He would add

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred sixteen hundred yards and he'd been in total,

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Speaker 1: and he would have been in double figures in touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I think before the season, anybody, if you'd ask him,

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Speaker 1: take that. But he's got to stay healthy, and if

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Speaker 1: I've been here obviously for every first practice of every

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Speaker 1: new regime. No, look it, you look like you did

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Speaker 1: when you showed up here. Thank you. General. Wow. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: I've seen pictures. I've seen pictures in general. It's stuff

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Speaker 1: I thought even Bill O'Brien's first practice was a little

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Speaker 1: bit shorter, but he did run the gassers afterwards, which was,

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Speaker 1: As long as practice I can remember. I thought we

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Speaker 1: were going to start interviews about eleven fifteen. They were

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Speaker 1: still out on the field at eleven thirty, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's good. You know, you want to get them

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Speaker 1: And I'm guessing as they get up closer to the

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Speaker 1: they'll tone it down. But that's what training campus for.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Tillman was here and Spencer and I were talking

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Speaker 1: about his rookie yere in eighty seven back when they

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Speaker 1: off camp with two three hour practices and full padge

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, they had those cold

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Speaker 1: and Moon and uh it was really nice water after that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those were those were the good old days of training camp.

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Speaker 1: But I did think it was interesting that it went

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Speaker 1: so long yesterday, and maybe that's the way they did

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Speaker 1: thought it was good. I thought it was fun. More

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Speaker 1: they're on the field of better. What'd you make of

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Speaker 1: I can't tell that. I watched Cully. I watched Caserio

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Speaker 1: And he talked yesterday about hoping his arm would last

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Speaker 1: they went about their job. And of course we know

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Speaker 1: but we don't know until they started hitting, and then

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Speaker 1: of course until they start playing. I was they had

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Speaker 1: I was we'd have gotten to go to Green Bay earlier,

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Speaker 1: That was a fun time. I'd love to have that general.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for joining us. Mark and John, thank

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Speaker 1: think you might want to know about that. I want

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00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: to go first, you go first, all right, I'll go first.

638
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in no particular order here, Okay, all right,

639
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: in no particular order. I'm gonna go. Charlie heck Tackle,

640
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: second year player out of North Carolina who rotated in

641
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: at right tackle. All right with the reserves. But it

642
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: was interesting to note that he just looks physically a

643
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: little different, like, you know, he's all grown up now,

644
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: John He was a rookie last year. Now he's a

645
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: man now. It just looks different physically. Again, with a

646
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: full off season, knowing what you went through last year

647
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: as a player, that year one to year two jump.

648
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: We talk about that all the time with players. You know,

649
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: what's a big factor for that the off season they

650
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: get between year one and year two and what they

651
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: can do physically and mentally. But physically yes, and he

652
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: just looks like an established player at that position. Now,

653
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's gonna factor in it. If

654
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna factor in, I still stand by what I

655
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: said last year. He's kind of like a backup quarterback.

656
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: You don't want to see him, really, you'd prefer not to,

657
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: but if you need to, he's got to be ready.

658
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: And he was ready last year with his portunity came

659
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: and he looks ready right now. Day one of camp

660
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: last year in training camp watching Charlie, his mind was

661
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: a mess. He was all over the place with technique.

662
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: I was really into. There were no preseason games. I

663
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: was really concerned. But as the year wore on and

664
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: he didn't play, you can just tell he was He

665
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: was getting marrors must have been improving because by the

666
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: time he got on the field, you're watching it going, look,

667
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: it's not perfect, but this looks he looks capable, no

668
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: doubt as a fourth round So I'm gonna try and

669
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: match in some way, shape or form. Yours go ahead,

670
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: you what. Charlie Heck drafted fourth round twenty twenty draft.

671
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: Mine was the last pick of that draft, a wide receiver,

672
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: fellow Rhode Islander in college at least. Yeah, Isaiah Coulter

673
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: watching him yesterday. Look, it's really easy. We get excited

674
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: about Anthony Miller and we'll talk about him. Really liked

675
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: watching Miller, who were number eighteen. We found out watching

676
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: Kiki qt with talked about those guys watching the receivers

677
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: yesterday was really fun watching him catching football. I don't

678
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: know how often the ball hit the ground, which it shouldn't,

679
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of times I've seen you

680
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: hit the ground because we've had some receivers with your hands,

681
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: like Oven Mitts. I watched Isaiah Coulter a lot of times,

682
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: and he didn't get a ton of reps with kind

683
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: of the first group, as I say it in air quotes,

684
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: but he was catching a lot of things down on

685
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: the other side. And I saw him running his routes

686
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: and how clean they were. And he's got good athleticism.

687
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: He's kind of one of those under the radar. Don't hey,

688
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: don't forget about me over here, six two two hundred pounds,

689
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: good size. I watched him after practice catch him out

690
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: fifty different type of balls throwing with one of the coaches.

691
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy you just can't forget about

692
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: because he is a talented guy. Ran into four four

693
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: range at the combine. So Isaiah Coulter is my first one,

694
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: and I knew you're gonna pick him. So I predicted

695
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: one of your under the radars. I I know you.

696
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: It's like it's like we're an old married couple at

697
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: this point. We can finish each other. Change things up.

698
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's go with Roy Lopez. All right. Now, Look,

699
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: we're not looking at them in pads or anything. He

700
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: really can't tell a whole ton right now, but you

701
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: can see physical presence, and oh my gosh, is he

702
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: a presence? All right? If you put a coke machine

703
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: next to another coke machine and put legs on it,

704
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: that's Roy Lopez, and that's what you need him to do.

705
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: Eat up space, eat up blocks, enable other guys to

706
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: make plays. But in college he showed the ability to

707
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: get into the backfield and get TfL's reek havoc. Maybe

708
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: a sack on occasion, but I liked what I saw

709
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: on day one from Roy Lopez. He's a rookie who

710
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: knows I don't know how he's gonna figure in. It's

711
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: a big group. I wrote about the group yesterday because

712
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: with a four to three you have four guys up front,

713
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: and now they could really have an identity. You know,

714
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: three to four you only have three in at a time,

715
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: sometimes two in some packages. And who can the D

716
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: line really be? I know we had a tremendous you know.

717
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: D line is a power trio in a three to four, right, yes,

718
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: And we had a great lead singer here in J. J.

719
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: Watt for so many years. But now you have four guys,

720
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: you got a full band, and they can have that identity.

721
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: And we're seated already with these guy his personality wise,

722
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: gotta see it on the field, which is the most

723
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: important thing. But I liked that I saw out of

724
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: young Roy on day one. Okay, a lot of different

725
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: ways I can go with this one, but you mentioned it.

726
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: Roy Lopez plays on the defensive line. In the offseason,

727
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Texas traded for Shack Lawson, still have Whitney Merciless Jacob

728
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: Martin still around. When first group on on the field yesterday,

729
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: John Grenard was at the defensive end. John Grenard is

730
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say, totally under the radar,

731
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: but I think there are times we gloss over him, right.

732
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: I wrote a football one on one on he and

733
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Charles Amner, who how they can rush the quarterback. I

734
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: think John Grenard's got something to play the fourth three position,

735
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: even though he played he stood up and played a

736
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: lot of three to four type things at Florida. In particular,

737
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of made built like a fourth

738
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: three defensive end, and I think he's gonna fit this

739
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: thing hand in glove. I think by the end of

740
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: the year, if he can stay healthy, we're gonna see

741
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: a guy and be very pleasantly surprised with what we

742
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: see from John Garnard. So not totally. You know me,

743
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I like to go subterranean sometimes by under the radar.

744
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: But you thought I was gonna go Maleet Collins. You

745
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna go Millet Collins. So I threw

746
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of a curveball at John Grenard. And

747
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this about Mille Collins. I watched Jacob

748
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: Martino here in an interview with us. I think later today,

749
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: I love talking pass rush. I love watching the past

750
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: rish so when special teams are doing their work, that

751
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: the respective lines go off to field too, and they

752
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: work on some individual work. And so later in practice

753
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: defensive linement working on pass rush drill. So I'm watching

754
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: the interior guys and I'm watching them do their work,

755
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: and so they kind of have a drill where they're

756
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: setting up and so there's a blocker and so he

757
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of gets in a position. So they're kind of

758
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: almost like wrestling. They're almost kind of like getting in

759
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: kind of wrestling, you know, position. And then all of

760
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: a sudden, MALIEK. Collins through his pass rush move and

761
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, whoa, whoa, what just happened? And all

762
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden he was buying and I was like,

763
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: that's the quickest I've ever seen anybody do that for them,

764
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: that's what he has. Millie Collins has got some quickness.

765
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: And we I said, right next to him. You saw

766
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: him his thighs and his trunk, massive, thick and athletic.

767
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: And when that quickness is when he's got that thing

768
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: turned up, well, he is tough. He is tough. And

769
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: I was just blown away by that. So you thought

770
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: I was going, Millie Collins, He's not gonna be under

771
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the radar. He's gonna start. He's gonna be no Mallie

772
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: Collins because I think that, yeah, this is opinion here.

773
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: But when it's all said and done, if this defense

774
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: does anything, he's gonna be a huge part of it.

775
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: And he has to be. Yeah, he has has and

776
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: he's listed at three ten plus two stacks of pancakes.

777
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Millie Collins will be heard from under the radar. I'm

778
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: gonna go a subterranean, John Boy. This is flying low.

779
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: This is like the military exercise and stripes where they

780
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: go under those ropes. All right, this is so under

781
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: the radar. This is this is Navy seals under the

782
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: radar stuff just for this purpose. No specialist, because all

783
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: those specialists, even though I love them, they're all they're

784
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: all they're well about the radar. Okay, they're they're above radar. Okay.

785
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: All right now, it's been a lot of years here.

786
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: These Caps have been around here for a long time,

787
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: and there's always a tight end who you weren't thinking about,

788
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: who does some stuff in camp. He might not even

789
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: make the team, but he's like, wow, that guy's pretty good.

790
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: He looks like you can play. And sometimes they turn

791
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: out the players from other teams like James O'Shaughnessy and

792
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: people like that turn into players they start for other

793
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: teams or um, come on the country Singer's son, come on,

794
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay no from Katie Cheezha Supernal who you know

795
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: went and played for the Titans for a number of

796
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: years but it didn't obviously work out here, you know

797
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: guys like that. All right, here's a guy now he

798
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: has been around, okay, but you might not even ever

799
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: heard of him. Listener antony A Claire, Yeah, okay, can

800
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: you pronounce where he's from? Uh? His city? His city?

801
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: So on the roster in Quebec, Notre Dame, the Pine

802
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: in Quebec, Quebec, Canada. It's the roster's funny because it's

803
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: in all like nine font yea. His city and location

804
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: is font. Yeah, it's like Jack young Blood for the

805
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: All Claire because he caught everything. And I'm thinking, this

806
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: is a guy we're not even talking about, and he's

807
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: catching everything, and he's one of those guys who makes

808
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: it difficult not to notice him. So we'll see what

809
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: he does and look, who knows, Maybe injuries help out

810
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: the situation for him. I really hope that's not the case,

811
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: no offense to his cause, or maybe he's just that

812
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: great or that good that he can rise up and

813
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: if not here, catch on somewhere else. I'm sure nickos

814
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Suria loves me talking about guys like Antony all Claire

815
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: who he would love him to have stayed onto the

816
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: radar in all likelihood, give me one more. Okay, tight

817
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: ends covered a lot of times by safeties that watched

818
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: a lot of one on ones yesterday, and a guy

819
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: that was joined us on All Access last night was

820
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: a guy he said he didn't care for Gators, but

821
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: he had respect for Hurricanes, and he showed yesterday going

822
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: against Brevin Jordan, a former Hurricane, he showed him some

823
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: pass cover skills. And that's Terrence Brooks. Lonnie Johnson started

824
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: the season and started the season on active NFI, So

825
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Lonnie's not out there. So you've got at safety justin Reid,

826
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 1: You've got Eric Murray, got those two, you got a j. Moore.

827
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: Beyond that, you don't have a number of guys at

828
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: that position. So if you if you have another injury

829
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: at that position now becomes pretty thin. Terrence Brooks becomes

830
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: even that much more important and beyond that to nine

831
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: can play. He still got it. Got in the League

832
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: of twenty fourteen. He's bounced around. He's with the Patriots

833
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. He's kind of I think seeing the

834
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: AFC East, maybe all of them. Either way, I had

835
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: a great time. We had a great time talking to him,

836
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: But then seeing him makes some plays yesterday, I thought,

837
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: you know what, don't forget about him, and watching him

838
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: cover the tight end yesterday made me think about that.

839
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: And seeing how he covered Brevin Jordan, I thought was

840
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: pretty solid. Well under the radar. Speaking of under the radar,

841
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: you talk to an under the radar receiver who could

842
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: make some noise in a particular phase of the game.

843
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: And more. When this thing's all said and Donz, let's

844
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: get to Anthony or rather Andre Roberts coming up next.

845
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I still had anthonyo Claire on the brain. And also

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Speaker 1: Andrea start with this question, what in life do you fear?

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Speaker 1: and You're right, I have no fear. I'm confident in

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Speaker 1: it at that. I'm glad you trust your hands. I'm

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Speaker 1: All right. I'm a hands dropper, by the way. In

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Speaker 1: That's different. I thought It was really interesting because I

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Speaker 1: you don't really see kickoff guys, return guys catch those,

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Speaker 1: but he does. He trusts his hands, and I'm cool

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Speaker 1: with that because the second you let one of those kickoffs,

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember. There's one year because of our

1263
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: games inside we were playing the Colts. Yeah, that was

1264
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: also inside, And they've been twenty nineteen. I can't remember,

1265
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: but there were a number of indoor games because our

1266
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: opponents were playing inside, the Saints, the Colts, our games inside.

1267
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: We were playing an outdoor, even questionable weather game until

1268
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: like the middle of October. And so at that point

1269
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, look, you gotta be ready, physically ready,

1270
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 1: but you don't have to grind yourself into the dirt

1271
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna have to be at a point

1272
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: where you've got to be accustomed and acclimated to ninety

1273
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: five degree heat. Now. I don't know what Cleveland will

1274
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: be in week two. There's a chance it could be

1275
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: relatively salty. Who knows, Buffalo maybe, I mean, you never

1276
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: know Buffalo in early October. I mean it could be

1277
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: one way or completely the other. So I'm of a

1278
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: mindset to get yourself acclimated for it. But if you're

1279
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: not playing Jacksonville Miami, you're not playing one of those

1280
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: games in the sweltering heat early in the season, then

1281
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that the grind is kept

1282
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: in mind of eighteen weeks all the way through. If

1283
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: you were playing jackson where you're playing in Miami or

1284
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: someplace outside, Okay, then it's a little bit a little

1285
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: bit more. You gotta get a little bit more acclimated

1286
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: to it. But if you don't have to do that,

1287
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: then I think you could split your time and do

1288
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: different things that way. But you know who's to say, Well,

1289
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: we'll see how David Culley and how the staff goes

1290
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: about plantage practices going forward. You know, year two, Week one,

1291
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: they played at Miami and they were ready to go

1292
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: for that one and beat them because the weather was

1293
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 1: no problem for them. They were used to it here

1294
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: and back then the Dolphins didn't even have an indoor facility.

1295
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: In fact, I want to say year three, they were

1296
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: here for the preseason and did some joy practices and

1297
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: they saw the Texans bubble and they bought one just

1298
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: like it for their Davy Florida practice facility because they said, hey,

1299
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: they live in similar weather and they got this thing.

1300
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: They can go inside. We can't even go inside, so

1301
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: let's figure out a way to go inside. Look, when

1302
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: they built this facility here, this was state of the art.

1303
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: Now they've updated it and upgraded it and everything throughout

1304
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: the years, no doubt about it. But this was miles

1305
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: ahead of much of the league back then. And the

1306
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: big deal. Hey see is how I wanted it to be.

1307
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: You got one lock a year round, you got a

1308
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: lock of a game day, and it's the same lock

1309
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: of a training can and practice, and a lot of

1310
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: teams just don't have that. You know. A lot of

1311
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: teams go somewhere for training camp, they get a locker

1312
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: from their practice facility, and they get a locker in

1313
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: game day, which is fine for a lot of teams.

1314
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: They win that way, but it's just the way they

1315
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: wanted it here in the early going. So we're not

1316
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: in the early going. We're in year twenty and here

1317
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: we go back to the fourth three. And I wrote

1318
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: about this a little bit on the D line, Johnny.

1319
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: You had the three four here from two thousand and

1320
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: two through two thousand and five, then you went to

1321
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: basically a four three through two thousand and ten, then

1322
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: back to the three four from twenty eleven on until

1323
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: this offseason, and look the three four look. We get

1324
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: a lot of four three looks out of that. It's

1325
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: not always straightforward the way it is. They're not in

1326
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: base a lot these days, or the majority of the time,

1327
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: they're probably out of base. But here we are in

1328
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: the four three, and I'm wondering who's gonna lead this

1329
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: team in sacks. Here's one of the candidates. He's a

1330
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: salty veteran on this team. Now, the saltiest is Whitney merciless.

1331
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: But this guy in year three around here that's saying something,

1332
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: Jake good Martin, and we caught up with him and

1333
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: he took note to the fact that he's one of

1334
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: the guys who's been around here for a bit. Oh man,

1335
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's I've come far. It's been a journey, yeah,

1336
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: but it's it's awesome. It's a it's a it's a

1337
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: dope feeling, you know, to be able to lead guys

1338
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 1: in the right direction, you know, So I think that's awesome.

1339
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna ask a question. I know it's

1340
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: on the tip of anybody's tongue that has thought about this,

1341
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: And you know a question I'm gonna ask. You ran

1342
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: a three to four last year, Now it's a four

1343
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: to three. How does that change things in your world? Nothing? Man,

1344
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: It takes me back to my DNA. Honestly, you know,

1345
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm I was excited about the change. Um, I'm just

1346
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: really just been waiting for an opportunity to play in

1347
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: a four to three again. Um, you know that was

1348
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: my bread and butter at Tump University. Um, not having

1349
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: to be in coverage or things like that and just

1350
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: be a true defensive end, you know, based down reach.

1351
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: You know those are things that that are you know,

1352
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: easy money for me. So so you were, I mean

1353
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: for people out there sort of panicking about it, you're saying, hey, man,

1354
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: this is a return to center. Basically is this is comfortable.

1355
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: This is why I got drafted. This playing in the

1356
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: fourth three is the sole reason I got drafted. I

1357
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: didn't play. I've never played in the three four until

1358
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: I got here. What's the key? Playing a four three

1359
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: verses and three four? Like you mentioned coverage obviously in

1360
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 1: three to four year more of all the coverage, but

1361
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: playing a four three defensive end, how is that different?

1362
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: My hands on the ground, you know, uh, less to see,

1363
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: less to think about. Um, you know it's it's really

1364
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: I could play whole lot fasters and not a whole

1365
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: lot of thinking involved. I don't have to see who

1366
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm matched up against. I don't have to look out

1367
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: the wide receiver splits or um. You know. Now I'm

1368
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: really just focused on the backfield. Sets and or whatever

1369
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line gives me. So Jacob Martin joining us,

1370
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: what's love he smith like in the rooms? What's he

1371
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 1: like to listen to as he's addressing the whole group.

1372
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: You know, that's another legend of the game. You know,

1373
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: someone who who knows defense, he knows the NFL defense, uh,

1374
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, and he's he knows pass rushers. You know,

1375
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: he's uh has had some success with the guy he's

1376
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: had in the past. Um. So he's a great coach.

1377
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: Great gotta learn from great, gotta listen to um and

1378
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: really just to learn football from. You know, he's a

1379
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: great football mind. M real good at answering questions or

1380
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: asking questions and making his guys think. So I like

1381
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: that you mentioned pass rush. There's obviously a lot of

1382
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: technique work which seemingly is very scientific, seemingly on a

1383
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: pass rush, but there's an art to it as well.

1384
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: How do you kind of bridge the gap between the

1385
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: two to make sure that you stay kind of innovative

1386
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: and kind of artists like, but yeah, you're still hold

1387
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: you're still holding in on the technique that's needed. How

1388
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: do you match art and science, so to speak, to

1389
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: be a great pass rushing. Well, man, how I think

1390
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: about pass rushing, Like you said, I think of as

1391
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: an art right, And with art, you know, you have

1392
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: different kinds of paint brushes, right, So with pass rushing,

1393
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta figure out what paintbrush are you?

1394
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: You know, are you a power guy, you fan esque guy?

1395
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: You a little bit of both? You know. When I

1396
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:58,520
Speaker 1: mean power rushers, that means long arms, bullrushes, you know, stabs,

1397
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: stab clubs and things like that that. Um, or if

1398
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: you're a finesse guy, speed guy, you know, that's more spins,

1399
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: chop clubs, you know, uh, things like that where I'm

1400
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: using more of my speed to my advantage to set

1401
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: up rushes and things like that. Um, I think those

1402
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: are those. And how you how you marry the two

1403
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: is you figure out what brush you're gonna paint with.

1404
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: And once you understand that, then now you got to

1405
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: figure out Okay, how can I because everyone everyone moves differently,

1406
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: everyone has different steps, Everyone's different techniques or different you know,

1407
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: capabilities with in terms of their body. Um. You know,

1408
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: but I think some of the best pastors are kind

1409
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: of on excuse me, unorthodox, Yeah, you know, like it's

1410
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to mimic. Bonds rushes. It's hard to mimic,

1411
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, Frank Clark's rushes. You know, it's hard to

1412
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: mimic you know, um clear Max rushes or Sadarius Smiths

1413
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: rushes and things like that. Um, but I think that's

1414
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: what make guys unique, you know, them understanding what they

1415
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: can do physically and then mastering that. So now it's

1416
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: it's not a thought. It just happens, like when people

1417
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: asking like, what do you think, Like I have my

1418
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 1: go to rush, which would be a chop chop swing. Yeah, right, Um,

1419
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: that just kind of just happens. I really don't really

1420
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: think about it. It It just it SAPs, just because I've

1421
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: practiced it so much. You know, my first two years

1422
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: in the league. I if you go back and watch

1423
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: like my Seattle film or even my first year here,

1424
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: all I did was s throw that. Whether I won

1425
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: or lost, I was throwing it just to get the

1426
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: repetition of it, the muscle memory of it. So like

1427
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: when I'm in a position to throw it, it just

1428
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: it just comes natchurally interesting. All right. So we talked

1429
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: to my league Collins, and he mentioned your name specifically

1430
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: when we talked about the talent on the D line.

1431
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 1: So what about the talent on the D line? Jacob,

1432
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about what's up front this year?

1433
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of new guys, Like we said,

1434
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, picking up a league was like a was huge,

1435
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, having a having a Boss three technique that

1436
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: can get off the ball, and UH has very versatile moves.

1437
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: You know, he can power rush, you know, he's very athletic.

1438
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: You can spend you know, he can chop um. You know.

1439
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: Then obviously coming back and playing with Chuck again, UM

1440
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: and his and his variety of moves and UM and

1441
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: then adding Shack Lawson and um Jordan Jenkins, you know,

1442
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: And obviously I'm excited to see you know, John Garnard

1443
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, step into his role. I think he could

1444
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: be a really good football player. But really is excited

1445
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: to see how these guys work, you know. And I

1446
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: had opportunity to work with some of these guys VT

1447
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: and Um Jalil over the break, and you know, the

1448
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: guys were looking good, and I think the chemistry is

1449
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna be great, and it's really just gonna come down

1450
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: to work in those rushes with each other in practice

1451
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: and and the preseason games and things like that. You

1452
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: mentioned you've got a pet move, and I would imagine

1453
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: every got its pass rusher has a pet move. So

1454
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: what does it take to learn a new move? Pitchers

1455
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: got a fastball slider. He wants to learn a change up.

1456
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: He can go through years sometimes to learn how to

1457
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: throw an accurate change up and do that. What's it

1458
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: like to try and learn a new pass rushing move

1459
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: that you want to try and incorporate something that counters

1460
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: off what your best move is? How time is that

1461
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: to incorporate into your into your game, to bring in

1462
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: something new if you will right? And so last year,

1463
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: you know, my biggest thing was come up with the counter.

1464
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 1: A counter that made sense in terms of okay, because

1465
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people think you were gonna win on

1466
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: your first move often and how I won on my

1467
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: first move, Yeah I have, you know what I mean?

1468
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: But sometimes you get caught, you know. So being able

1469
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: to counter off that first move where it's it's fluid.

1470
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: You don't want to have to chop or chop your

1471
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: feet at the top of the rush or slow down

1472
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: at the top of the rush. Um, So being able

1473
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: to to counter off the chop swing, which would be

1474
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: you know spin you know, I could uh fake the chop,

1475
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: fake spin you whatever the case may be, or come

1476
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: inside whatever the whatever the case is. You know, developing

1477
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: rushes that okay, I know how I set my game up,

1478
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: would be, Okay, I'm going to power first, even though

1479
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a power rusher, right, I'm ana go to

1480
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: power first, So they don't know really know how fast

1481
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: I am, right, and then they're thinking I'm gonna come

1482
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: out the second time in Power Rush, I may touch

1483
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: and go right or or made you know ghost right,

1484
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: Von has you know, mastered the ghost? Yeah, you know,

1485
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: so learning what's the ghost? For the listeners? What's the ghost? Right?

1486
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: So it's like you're going into power Rush right like

1487
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: I may I may throw my inside arm um like

1488
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to long on them, you know, and I'll

1489
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: take the arm away. And when because disappeared and I

1490
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: and I ghost, I goes underneath his hands. You know,

1491
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: a lot officive linements are this league is amazing. The

1492
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: talent in this league is amazing. And offensive linement they

1493
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: they're they studied just as much as we study course,

1494
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: you know, and uh they kind of know us almost

1495
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: better than we know ourselves, you know what I mean?

1496
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: So um, being able to to it's almost like magic,

1497
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, trying to sell something that you're right that

1498
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: you're taking away, you know. So you get them, you

1499
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: get them to stop their feet or to brace for

1500
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: that long arm, for that power move, to power down

1501
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: it would be the technical term for them, you know,

1502
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: and and then abusing their abusing their athletic ability to mine.

1503
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm right more athletic than them, so I

1504
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: can start and stop a lot faster. So um selling

1505
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: selling those types of rushes, all right. So I got

1506
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: an explanation that was Jacob Martin, by the way, I

1507
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: got an explanation of what the ghost move was, which

1508
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: I really thought was sort of disappearing on instant uh

1509
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: Instagram or messaging apps. It's gotta not getting back to people.

1510
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: But in pass rushing it means something completely different. You've

1511
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: seen Von Miller do it. Yeah, Von's done it, and

1512
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: where Von will step up and then the offensive tackle

1513
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: is thinking, okay, I've got a brace, and so he's

1514
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: standing kind of you know, with high hands, and then

1515
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Vaughan just drops. He just puts

1516
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: a hand out and then he just drops and goes

1517
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: underneath and he's masterful because how many pictures, how many

1518
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 1: videos have you seen a Vaughan and he's going around

1519
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: the edge and his you know, he's bending the edge

1520
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: and the inside part of his body is like, you know,

1521
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: two feet off the ground. If that, I mean, he's

1522
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 1: had the amazing ability to do that throughout his career.

1523
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: And that's what he's talking about. It's I saw it's

1524
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: college guy, but I saw Drake Jackson use it from

1525
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: USC and I was like, I love that move. I'm

1526
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: not sure what it's called. And I heard somebody call

1527
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: it a ghost move and I was like, oh, that's

1528
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: a perfect name for it, because you literally show a

1529
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: hand in and you disappear. But him talking about it

1530
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: was I mean, that was cat nipp to me. I mean,

1531
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't get enough. I'm talking about the

1532
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: pass for us man. It was just it was so

1533
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: cool because he does, he has, he has, he has

1534
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: defined because I see him working. I saw him working

1535
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: on it yesterday, and what I liked is whoever he's

1536
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: working with yesterday, He's working with a defensive interior, defensive linement, right,

1537
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: And so I thought that was kind of interesting, but

1538
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: he can be a guy and that was just intriguing

1539
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: to hear. Hey, I played fourth three in college. That's

1540
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: why I'm comfortable with I'm like, that was great news

1541
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: to hear in some sense, he was so happy, so excited. Well,

1542
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: tell me how happy Whitney merciless might be about all

1543
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: this too, because he's been an outside linebacker. Here for

1544
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: him to get go, but he was a four three

1545
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: defensive end in college. Yeah, I think a lot of

1546
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: people want to talk about Wit. They think about twenty eighteen, Right,

1547
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: it was the year that that JJ, Clowney and Wit

1548
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: all stayed healthy, right, and you only had two outside spots,

1549
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: especially when you had a four man Russian nicol And

1550
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: how are you going to fill those if you didn't

1551
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: move Clowney or what inside? Then Witt had to drop off,

1552
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: as you know, off the ball backer and he's dropping

1553
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,959
Speaker 1: into coverage and that's just unfortunately, I think people assessed

1554
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: Whitney for that. Some people were like, look, that's not

1555
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: what he's made to do. Well, I think Jacob put

1556
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: it best. When you put your hand down on the ground,

1557
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: there's a four three defensive n you're going forward. You're

1558
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: going forward. You're not dropping in coverage. Now you might

1559
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: peel on a running back, depending on different schemes and things,

1560
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: you might peel on a running back meeting. If the

1561
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: running back you've got some sort of Blitzer call and

1562
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: you've got contained that running back peels, you might have

1563
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: to go off with him. But that's it. Other than that,

1564
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: you're full board, you're taking out tight ends, you're taking

1565
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: out tackles, you're setting the edge, and you're rushing quarterback.

1566
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: It's that simple. Three four outside linebacker has a lot

1567
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: more going with it. Here's the other thing, Mark and

1568
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 1: I thought about this a lot of teams. As I

1569
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: watch players coming from college to the NFL, I'm finding

1570
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: more and more and more three four outside linebacker types.

1571
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: So there's a possibility that with more four three that

1572
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: you might have an opportunity to get a guy that

1573
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: fits a little bit better. Look. You want to get

1574
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: the best player available. I get it totally. But there

1575
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 1: are some dynamic pass rushers in college are two hundred

1576
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds. You can't put that guy at

1577
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 1: four three defensive end right, so you but there are

1578
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: other teams, a lot of teams running through before they

1579
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: might take that guy. You have an opportunity maybe to

1580
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 1: find inefficiency in the market because there's so many teams

1581
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: looking for that one particular player that you might be

1582
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: able to You know, well, we're gonna take that four

1583
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: three defensive end over here. He's gonna fit us pretty well.

1584
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: And kind of a i'd say Moneyball concept. But take

1585
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 1: advantage of an inefficiency in the market if you will,

1586
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: at that particular position, and hopefully that pays off for

1587
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: both Whitney and for Jacob this year and they could

1588
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: put some sacks up on the board and get some

1589
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: big plays from those outside positions. Don't get me started

1590
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: on Moneyball, because I love that movie, right and vander

1591
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: Kid watched it. I had him watch it because he

1592
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: was like, he was kind of interested in the prospect

1593
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: of general manager or sports agent. He's fifteen years old,

1594
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: so he wanted to know about those kinds of things.

1595
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: I said, let's watch Moneyball just for the fun of it.

1596
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: You see the life of a GM. Now it's a

1597
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's based on a true store it A

1598
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: lot of it is true. A lot of it is

1599
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: and I know Art How's depictions. I'm very well thought of,

1600
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: especially in this City by Philip Seymour Hoffman as a

1601
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,440
Speaker 1: great actor, but he played a character that he imagined

1602
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,759
Speaker 1: more than was really art how But anyway, stuff like that, Johnny,

1603
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 1: have we seen now we see players going into the bubble.

1604
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: I just saw Malik Collins. I saw Brandon Cooks. There's

1605
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: some guys out here practicing with the jugs machine. There's

1606
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: Nevil hett Yeah, Neville Hewitt who's never led the Jets

1607
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: and tackles last year. And that linebacking corps. I wanted

1608
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: to go there, actually, but have you seen the quarterbacks

1609
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: come in yet? Because I've not noticed. I'm not. You know.

1610
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: It's funny because every time I see the photographers like

1611
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: really get into focus on someone, I'm thinking, all right,

1612
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: here we go. Well oh yeah, oh yeah. I really

1613
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: have to do is just watch the media. He'll tell you, yeah,

1614
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: we saw that yesterday, Like every time they went you

1615
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: could just see him going back and forth. And then

1616
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: there was our Pala Seth Payne watching special teams. Loved it.

1617
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: It's I loved yeah. I know, because he's a football

1618
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: guy and he wants to see all that stuff. It's funny.

1619
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: It's like watching the media and how they react to something.

1620
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you're a baseball played by

1621
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: play guy, you just watch the outfielder to see if

1622
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: the ball's a home run or not, because his body

1623
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: language will tell you a whole lot about where that

1624
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: ball is going. I feel bad for the baseball announcers

1625
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: who are still calling games off the monitor, because sometimes

1626
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell how deep those balls are going

1627
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: when you're just seeing him on a monitor. You know,

1628
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: you don't get that depth vision, and you know, so

1629
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: you have to wait. You have to wait anyway. So linebackers, though,

1630
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: let's go there for a moment here, and we're gonna

1631
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: go around the league in our next segment because there

1632
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: is some stuff to talk about related to former Texans

1633
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: and also what's going on in Green Bay because Johnny

1634
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: wants to talk about general manager Aaron Rodgers. We're also

1635
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: going to have Landry's camp questions coming up soon enough,

1636
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: but quickly. On the linebackers, because it is a four

1637
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 1: three night of the three backers, and we'll see what

1638
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: they do with the sub packages and everything. But I

1639
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: think that they have linebackers for days. I've said this.

1640
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: I think that they are stocked. We just mentioned Neville Hewitt.

1641
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he starts. Johnny led the

1642
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: Jets and tackles last year. He can play, but there

1643
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: might not be room for him in a starting concept,

1644
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: but maybe there is, and maybe he's a rotational guy.

1645
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to handle it, but

1646
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: you do have a lot of players to choose from here,

1647
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: and you're gonna sort all this out the next few weeks. Well,

1648
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: you've got between Zech Cuttingham, Christian Kirksey, Kevin Pierre Lewis,

1649
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: and Neville Hewitt. Those four guys, had they've been all

1650
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: on a sixteen game basis, they would have all led

1651
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: their teams and tackles. So when you do the math,

1652
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: that's four guys that led teams and tackles last year potentially,

1653
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: and you've only got three spots. But you know how

1654
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: it goes. Last year, b Mac gets hurt in the

1655
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota game. I think it was the Minnesota game. He's

1656
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: out for the year, and now Terrell Adams has got

1657
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: to step up. And look, Trell made a lot of

1658
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: tackles and I love Terrell Adams. He's just one of

1659
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: the greatest individuals you want to be around. But starting

1660
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL. That was not the role that

1661
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: he needed to have. We needed to have that position

1662
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: be better. So what did Nick Cassario do. He came

1663
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: in and said, wiped it all out, said Zach Cunningham's

1664
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: only guy. Seven other linebackers have come in, all from

1665
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: different teams, So it's gonna be a different look for

1666
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: everybody to take a look at it. But I think

1667
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: the common thread amongst those linebackers number one, the ability

1668
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: to attack the run. Number two, they all can run,

1669
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: and that at that position. Now it's I don't want

1670
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: to say that that that the linebacker position will ever be. Oh,

1671
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: let's put ability to run over the ability to go

1672
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: stop the run, make tackles. But we're getting there. We're

1673
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: getting to a point where, you know what, two twenty five,

1674
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: two thirty linebackers are common cover and they've got to

1675
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: be able to cover. And some teams will be like,

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Speaker 1: The game doesn't just change every five to seven years.

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Speaker 1: The game changes every two to three years. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: Some number switches as Nico Collins, the rookie from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: later and you better get it right. And who else

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Speaker 1: switched up John? So Nico Collins went from eighty four

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Speaker 1: to twelve, right, Chris Conley went from seventeen to eighteen. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: which makes me because Miller was going to go to eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Now my guess is Miller is going to seventeen, okay,

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Speaker 1: because Corner Armstrong was three. Anthony Millers wearing three yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but Cornel Armstrong was already three. So then I think

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Speaker 1: Anthony Miller. We heard he was going to eighteen, but

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Speaker 1: I can tell you eighteen just by looking out there

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Speaker 1: from what I could see, eighteen is Chris Conley. So

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Speaker 1: it's okay, we'll get we'll get it all. We'll get

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Speaker 1: it all straight. But like you said, um, guys are

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Speaker 1: out in the field getting things done. Four is here

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Speaker 1: and quarterbacks are working up on field two, special teams

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Speaker 1: going on field one and we're back at it, back

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Speaker 1: to the grind baby around the league and by the way,

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Speaker 1: Landry's camp questions coming up in the next segment. You

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Speaker 1: Lopez show. But we always have fun with Landry during

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Speaker 1: camp shows. Johnny JJ Watt on pup with the hamstring problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can't overreact to a hamstring problem.

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Speaker 1: But Watt is not in football years young anymore, and

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Speaker 1: you just hate to see that for him. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens with him. Yeah, and I've had I've

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Speaker 1: had that before many many years ago when I was

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Speaker 1: quite younger. But it just it's we know, with hamstrings,

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Speaker 1: they just linger, they just linger, and you never really

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Speaker 1: fully can get rid of it until you get that

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Speaker 1: full off season. And that's so we don't know the

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Speaker 1: extent of it. Could be just well, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a couple days, could be weak. But depending on how

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Speaker 1: bad it is, most some people it's so bad they

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Speaker 1: end up having to have surgery. And hopefully it's not

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Speaker 1: that for JJ. But well, it starts on pop but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna end up being it's gonna end up being

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Speaker 1: a problem you have him in traction already, Chatty, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that. I'm kidding, but there are some people

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Speaker 1: that have to have that surgery at some point. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, that's that's the far that's the far far

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Speaker 1: into the spectrum, the other end spectrum. It's back in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days and he's cool, but he's still

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Speaker 1: gonna have to be dealing with it. And that's that's

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Speaker 1: tough to do, no matter the age. So do you

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Speaker 1: think that Tom Brady playing so old forty three years old?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that is making us I don't

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Speaker 1: know overestimate the length of a career for some great

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks or not. Because Aaron Donald, thirty years old says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel you know, I'm feeling my age. I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: thirty years old. And you know, Sean mcvayh comes back

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Speaker 1: with he looks fine. Okay, he looks good to me,

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Speaker 1: and I bet he does look pretty good. Different plans.

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Speaker 1: Thirty is not old. It's extremely young in the scheme

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Speaker 1: of things in real life. But in football, you know,

1853
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Speaker 1: there was a time when you turned thirty it was

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Speaker 1: it was over. Yeah, it just felt like you were

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Speaker 1: in overtime. If you went past the age of thirty

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Speaker 1: almost in any professional sport. Obviously there were some exceptions

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Speaker 1: and some great exceptions, but what do you think of that? Well,

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Speaker 1: when life span, when you think about the life the

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Speaker 1: interior lives that JJ Watt and Aaron Donald have lived

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Speaker 1: as quick as Aaron Donald is, as quick as JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt is, They still are taking double teams, triple teams,

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Speaker 1: chips constantly. The amazing thing for Aaron Donald is he

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Speaker 1: is not broken down. He is not missed. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's missed a game, says his rookie year in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. And that's just amazing to think about. But

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Speaker 1: it just takes a toll. Then you add another game

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Speaker 1: watching him work out, like his workout videos like good Grief,

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Speaker 1: and I'll never forget being at the Senior Bowl. Mark

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Speaker 1: is my favorite story. We're at the Senior Bowl and

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a college coach, college coach who

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Speaker 1: I knew, and I was asking about his guys at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. And we were literally standing from metiu

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Speaker 1: tell you this guy. I think this guy's a first

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Speaker 1: round offensive lineman. I think you're really gonna love him.

1879
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Speaker 1: And I swear he can get that out of his mouth.

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Speaker 1: And Aaron Donald was going one on one with him

1881
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Speaker 1: and just destroyed him. And I'm like, whoa. And I

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Speaker 1: often alignment Now it's really impressive, all right, General manager

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that's what you're calling him because he's trying

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Speaker 1: to broke things up at Green Bay. Look, I do

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Speaker 1: perhaps in some personnel or whatever, like he says, when

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Speaker 1: you're as accomplished as Aaron Rodgers. I've been around here

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Speaker 1: for well over a decade. I mean, geez, I remember

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight was his first year. Yeah, played

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Speaker 1: Here's my issue. Here's my issue. And I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think organizations listening to key people. I think it's

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Speaker 1: totally cool. But what the players have got to understand

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Speaker 1: If you go about as a GM making every single

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Speaker 1: might be. They weren't one of those guys that I

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Speaker 1: So if you end up keeping all those guys around,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have the money, and so cap wise

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Speaker 1: it becomes problematic. And you walk in and you talk

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Speaker 1: those situations is that players voice their opinion to the GM.

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Speaker 1: The GM's like yeah, and then the players are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want that anymore. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: there you go. And that's kind of where Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: we really like Randall Cobb. I mean, I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: And I know it didn't work out as a player,

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced Coulter's out of that by any means.

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Speaker 1: Andre Roberts would be on the roster, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: really considering him quote unquote a receiver, so that's seven maybe,

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Speaker 1: but he's a returd special, he's more return special. I'll

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Speaker 1: go with that. Um So, yeah, that would be the

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Speaker 1: Those would be my six based on yesterday, just initial

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Speaker 1: right off the bat. Two team Miller, Cooks Conley look

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Speaker 1: really good based on yesterday. Okay, we'll see what happens today.

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Speaker 1: It's just day two of camps, so this is what

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Speaker 1: we do, all right. Most likely to happen Derek Henry

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Speaker 1: falls off or Jacksonville surprises some people and wins nine

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Speaker 1: or ten games. I would say Henry the stats. This

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Speaker 1: Henry has to fight every single statistic in every measure

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Speaker 1: for a running back. He oh, you don't give a

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Speaker 1: Oh he can't follow up, you know, three hundred fifty

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Speaker 1: touches and have another great year. He goes for over

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Speaker 1: two K the following year with over four hundred touches.

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Speaker 1: Like he's defying everything that there is about a running back.

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Speaker 1: But eventually father time wins. So I'm going with father

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Speaker 1: t He is a he lives in the gym, we've

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Speaker 1: always seen, and he makes that very well known. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was the MVP of the NFL last year,

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Speaker 1: and look, if he does it again this year, he's

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Speaker 1: got to get more recognition. You can't always give it

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Speaker 1: He was definitely the most valuable player last year. Without him,

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Speaker 1: nothing's happening up there. Okay, Now, I know you could

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Speaker 1: say that about any of the quarterbacks, but there's no

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Speaker 1: other team in the league where if you have a

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Speaker 1: good quarterback and you take away any other player, that

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Speaker 1: team isn't doing very well. Right, That's a team where

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Speaker 1: you take away another player and they're dropping off considerably. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's how that's how I arrived at my MVP

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Speaker 1: distinction for him. All right, let's talk about the three

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Speaker 1: rookies that we've been talking about the most, Davis Mills,

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins and Brevin Jordan. If you had to choose,

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Speaker 1: if you if I took you guys back to when

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Speaker 1: Miami or Michigan. Oh, when I was eighteen or now

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Speaker 1: you're now? My course, mister ivy league over there. So

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Speaker 1: my background. I coach long, long time ago, so this

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Speaker 1: was eighteen, but my quarterback when he was going into

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Speaker 1: I wasn't coach at the time, but I coached Jush

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Speaker 1: always stuck in my head. Probably at eighteen, I probably

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Speaker 1: would have picked Michigan. You know, I don't. I grew

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Speaker 1: probably wanted to go back experience to snow a little

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Speaker 1: bit that point. Back in the late eighties really nineties,

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Speaker 1: That would have been a cool place for you know

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Speaker 1: it's sorry to say no to Coral Gables. Go to

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Speaker 1: a University of Miami. Baseball game. It's ridiculous. I don't

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Speaker 1: don't even think up my wife's and I would say, Look,

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Speaker 1: I actually got into Miami, but I didn't go there

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Speaker 1: But I love Miami. It would be hard for me

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Speaker 1: and you can't say weather, so I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I realized this when I drove to La a couple

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Speaker 1: that different view, like I'm watching football eight rows up

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Speaker 1: He would make like a you know, two mile ride

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Speaker 1: ookt up in the loop. Today we got a lot. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I like that interesting news coming up on Landry and Lobez.

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Speaker 1: today at the Wildcat Pro Shop and mentioned Texans Radio,

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Speaker 1: and we'll add an additional two free golf fasts Kilt

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Speaker 1: bringing you inside the Wall, dringing you inside the Wall,

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Speaker 1: dringing