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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 4: He is the Matt Williamson and it's another cold day

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Speaker 4: here in Pittsburgh. I'm as bad as I thought walking in,

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Speaker 4: though maybe I just didn't hit the win getting used

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Speaker 4: to it. That's that's the thing, right. I also wasn't

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Speaker 4: up at six am when it was minus eighth or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It was today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to get used to this. No, right,

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Speaker 4: but especially warm up tomorrow, I think a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully it'll warm up for us so next week

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Speaker 3: in Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 4: But that'd be right.

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Speaker 3: I did look ahead. It's supposed to be in the sixties.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's take that right now.

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Speaker 3: But they did get like five inches of snow yesterday. Okay,

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Speaker 3: there were like ten inches on Bourbon Street.

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Speaker 4: I heard. I heard they were like skiing on Bourbon

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Speaker 4: Street or something. A bunch of drunkards.

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Speaker 3: What could go wrong there?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: That's awesome, I mean that's the best thing going.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, it's a new day here, and uh well, new

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Speaker 3: show and Matt. I've been doing some position reviews for

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Speaker 3: Steelers dot Com and I want to start talking about

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Speaker 3: some of those today. The first one I did was

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Speaker 3: a position review on the offensive line and the group

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Speaker 3: that you're looking.

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Speaker 4: At, like giving up grades or anything, just kind of

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Speaker 4: like I'll look at the season and then you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of a look ahead who is going to be

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Speaker 4: free agents of the group.

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Speaker 3: So you got Dan Moore, Isaac Samalu, Zach Frasier, Mason McCormick,

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Speaker 3: Broderick Jones, Troy Faltanu, James Daniel, Nate Herbig, Spencer Anderson,

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Speaker 3: Ryan McCollum, Calvin Anderson, and Max Sharping. Those are all

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Speaker 4: That it's anyone who got snaps right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically we're on the team all year. Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: So I have a practice squad, never got in a game,

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Speaker 4: I didn't include, Yeah if they were never on the

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Speaker 4: active roster, didn't you know, weren't on the active roster

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Speaker 3: So that group, Daniels, Moore, Calvin Anderson, Sharping, and her

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Speaker 3: Big are all scheduled to be unrestricted free agents. Well,

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Speaker 3: McCullum is an exclusive rights free agent, which means he's

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Speaker 3: not going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to go anywhere, and I'd like to

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Speaker 4: keep him too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he showed that he's certainly capable.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a chance to be on the roster

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Speaker 4: next year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paly won him in camp. I think he is

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Speaker 3: a very high chance to be on the roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he's the bat might be practice squad, but

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Speaker 4: he's the backup center, backup center right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no other guy on there that I mean

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Speaker 3: you unless they resigned Nate Herbig and say he's going

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Speaker 4: That's a move i'd be very interested to make. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it would cost you a lot. His

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Speaker 3: He could didn't play it all, had a sight out

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's no way his contract demands went up

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Speaker 4: free agents. I'd be most interested at what they'll probably make.

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Speaker 3: And what people forget about Nate Herbig. While we're on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, I mean they draft that change quickly,

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Speaker 3: And he started four games for them in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: There's value there. They like him.

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Speaker 4: I think it'd be crazy enough to talk to him.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely try to bring him back.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things that I continue to see

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Speaker 3: sign her big. I would think, okay, that's seven.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to go out and add a veteran.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can also resign Calvin Anderson, who's played a

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he actually filled in in the playoff game at Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: not flew under the radar.

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Speaker 4: That he wouldn't cost you much either, bring him back

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Speaker 4: over right, right, right.

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Speaker 3: But you're not adding another starter to this group.

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Speaker 4: Ness, I don't think so. See them all lose contracts

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Speaker 4: but you have I think you're fine for now. I'm

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Speaker 4: not using a high pick on a guard, but kind

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Speaker 4: show up. I could see that. I never turn my

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about with that. That's

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Speaker 3: Well, that's all things determined. Yeah, yeah, you know I

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: We haven't had any conversations yet about any of this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they could look at this and say we're

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Speaker 4: That's kind of what I'm guessing. But either way it

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Speaker 3: we drafted Broderick Jones to be our left tackle of

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Speaker 4: He's just played so much right now, you know, kind

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know, you're not.

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Speaker 4: They do a good job of it. We'd like to

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Speaker 4: But it does seem like that he's big on give

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and that's why you know, so I

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Speaker 4: Who you know, he's a little bit cheaper, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's maybe he's not one of the top sixty four

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Or again, I wouldn't turn. I know there's been a

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Speaker 3: No, I think people are looking at as I always

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Speaker 3: and they often do. Yeah yeah, especially that group especially,

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Speaker 3: And when you look at that group, you had two rookies,

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Speaker 3: Fraser and McCormick. Broderick Jones is actually younger than McCormick. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: leg the same age as Fraser. He's the same age

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Speaker 4: The young human beings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Broderick Jones had fifteen career starts in college.

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Speaker 3: he did as a collegiate player.

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Speaker 4: Makes sense, Yeah, yeah, Now.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't excuse some of the what I what I

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Speaker 3: see as mental errors that he has.

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Speaker 4: I thought a lot of them before the buy in particular. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think the bye did him a lot of good.

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Speaker 3: Now they still happen, I think on two common an occasion.

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Speaker 3: But I think the athletic talent is there. He just

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Speaker 3: looks like a first round tackle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, needs to put it all together right right right,

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Speaker 4: And this upcoming year will be really important for that.

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Speaker 4: It's his third year.

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Speaker 3: Some people are already calling him a bust.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's that's that's not fair at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean I look at the guy with the Giants

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Neil.

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Speaker 3: Neil benched and yeah, yeah right, people, that's a bust.

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Speaker 4: They can't see the fields, run a bad line.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this would happen, but it it because

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Speaker 4: But no, I think you run it back, especially because

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Speaker 3: But all in all, I mean, I wasn't pretty sad.

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Speaker 4: Everyone else can do whatever you want to tap out?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not. And what I'm saying about the three left

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Speaker 4: I am dale lollystening to the drive here on the

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Speaker 4: Steelers Audio Network. Matt, Now, I'll be back with more

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Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 3: Radio and welcome to the Drive. Back to the Drive,

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Speaker 3: I should say, I'm Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Williamson and we want to welcome in the Dina Doom,

442
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Speaker 3: the lord of living in his fears, Bob Labriola, who

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Speaker 3: got a late Christmas present on Sunday night. Ah, Yes,

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Speaker 3: grinning like the cheshire cat.

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Speaker 1: World. All is right with the world. Ravens are at home,

446
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Speaker 1: and you know the Ravens are at home. And my

447
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Speaker 1: personal take from the game was that, you know, too

448
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Speaker 1: many people were point to figure at either Marky Andrews,

449
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Speaker 1: we're not catching the ball, or that two point conversion

450
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Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson not throwing it in a place where

451
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Speaker 1: you know that kind of twisting, almost acrobatic catch was necessary.

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Speaker 1: But for me, it's harbaugh. Why did they Why did

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Speaker 1: they even need that two point conversion at the end

454
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Speaker 1: to tie the game? And they wouldn't have if he

455
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Speaker 1: didn't foolishly, in my opinion, go for too late in

456
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Speaker 1: the third quarter. You know he's too married to that

457
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Speaker 1: analytics chart.

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Speaker 3: Oh don't say that, Bob. You say that, all the

459
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Speaker 3: analytics people come charging out at you. I always say,

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Speaker 3: let them come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, I got I got the hardball thing

462
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Speaker 1: on the video and we can all sit down and

463
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Speaker 1: watch it together. Always get all that credit for being

464
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Speaker 1: so forward thinking with analytics and all that garbage. Well,

465
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Speaker 1: enjoy all your forward thinking from the.

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Speaker 4: Couch, Bob.

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Speaker 3: But did we learn anything in regards to these playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Because I here's what I've learned, and and the the

469
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Speaker 3: league sent out the package of you know, the after

470
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Speaker 3: all the playoff games in teams that win the turnover

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Speaker 3: battle and this year's playoffs seven.

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Speaker 4: And zero, it's crazy. Yeah, home teams and winning the

473
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Speaker 4: turnover battle is massive trend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know about you know, learning

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Speaker 1: it reaffirmed it.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, that's when when when when Mike Tomlin talks

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Speaker 3: about the you know, the turnover culture and stuff, and

478
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Speaker 3: and well, you know that you can't you can't rely

479
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Speaker 3: on that, you can't do that. But you can't turn

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Speaker 3: the ball over. Even if you're not getting turnovers. You

481
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Speaker 3: got you gotta have you got to give yourself a chance.

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Speaker 3: And that Ravens game is a perfect example. I thought

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Speaker 3: they lost it more than the Bills won it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and you know it's and And the

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Speaker 1: other thing to me is that I believe is important

486
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Speaker 1: to kind of highlight slash emphasize, is it's turnover ratio.

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Speaker 1: If you turn it over two times and you get

488
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Speaker 1: four takeaways, you're plus two. Well, that's still you know,

489
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Speaker 1: that's a good situation to be in, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's don't turn the ball over. It's

491
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Speaker 1: don't be a minus at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: In turnover ratio, if you're giving it away, you've got

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Speaker 1: to take it away more often, or at least as

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Speaker 1: often so that you know you're either on even footing

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Speaker 1: or a little bit on the in the plus side

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Speaker 1: on in that statistic. Now, for me, what I learned

497
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Speaker 1: was it's it's ridiculous the way Patrick Mahomes continues to

498
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Speaker 1: get treated by the officials. It's even more ridiculous for

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Speaker 1: the NFL to come forward and try and justify that

500
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Speaker 1: garbage with their ambiguous rule book where it can be

501
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Speaker 1: interpreted any way that you want to. And then it's

502
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Speaker 1: totally ridiculous for people in the media. That's some to

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Speaker 1: say that Mahomes has earned the right to be treated

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Speaker 1: that way by the officials, because to me, you know,

505
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Speaker 1: no man is above the rules.

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Speaker 3: In the rule book that you're this. This is a foul,

507
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Speaker 3: but it's it's only a foul if the quarterback has

508
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Speaker 3: won three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Right, so you know, just they say, well, Brady earned

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Speaker 1: that right to though he didn't. He was given that,

511
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Speaker 1: but that didn't make it correct then and it's not

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Speaker 1: correct now. So that's what I learned that everything you

513
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Speaker 1: might believe about the ludicrous of NFL officiating and how

514
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Speaker 1: it is arbitrary and inconsistent, that should be totally cleared up.

515
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Speaker 1: Now everybody should understand that it is. And so now

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Speaker 1: all of my energies that I was focused on getting

517
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Speaker 1: the Ravens on the couch, it is getting Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: on the couch as well, so then I can sit

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Speaker 1: on Super Bowl Sunday and enjoy the game.

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Speaker 4: So Labs the first segment, we had a big, in

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Speaker 4: depth conversation on the Steelers offensive line, and Dale wrote

522
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Speaker 4: about it for Steelers dot Com and kind of came

523
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Speaker 4: to the conclusion chances are more and Daniels won't be back.

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Speaker 4: Would love to see her big back, But I just

525
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Speaker 4: wanted to get your overview of what you think of

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Speaker 4: the line right now and what we what expectations should be.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, first of all, it's not good enough as

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Speaker 1: it was constituted at the end of the season. Now

529
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, you have the expectation slash hope

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Speaker 1: that you know file Tanu, who you know, missed all

531
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Speaker 1: but fifty five snaps of the regular season. His addition

532
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Speaker 1: is going to allow Broderick Jones to move to his

533
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Speaker 1: more natural position. That plus the fact that you know

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Speaker 1: Broderick Jones now has more uh more games under his

535
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Speaker 1: belt of experience both you know, because really, what do

536
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Speaker 1: you play twenty three games in college or something.

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Speaker 4: That fifteen number fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, and a young human being too, So

539
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Speaker 1: you know you're hoping that you know, that is a plus.

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Speaker 1: You know, Zach Fraser will be a second year guy.

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Speaker 1: That's to be a plus. You know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: you know, nice to think that, you know, Mason McCormick

543
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Speaker 1: is going to be someone you know who can be

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Speaker 1: a starter for you in this league, a quality starter,

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Speaker 1: but in a no offense to Mason McCormick. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sold on that yet. I want to see more. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he can't, but I'm really not ready to

548
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Speaker 1: assume that he.

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Speaker 3: Is out of the woods yet with him yet, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yes, not out of the woods yet. And you know,

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Speaker 1: this is another thing that someone amuses me is that,

552
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Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line is being criticized for injuries,

553
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Speaker 1: as as though those seasons a couple of years back

554
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Speaker 1: where everybody played one hundred percent of the snaps is

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Speaker 1: what you should you should expect now every year. People

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Speaker 1: don't understand that was you know, that was like that, right,

557
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Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to think of something that

558
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Speaker 1: you know, Hallie's common or something that only happens once

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Speaker 1: in your lifetime. I'd never seen that before ever, and

560
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Speaker 1: never even heard of it before, especially at the NFL level,

561
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Speaker 1: And I don't ever expect to see or hear of

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Speaker 1: that again. So you know, injuries are part of it.

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Speaker 1: So my point now with that is there's not enough

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Speaker 1: of them either. You know, you don't have enough good

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman because you're are going to have injuries. You know,

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Speaker 1: Nate Herbig is a guy who you know, he's he's

567
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Speaker 1: a nice thought, but you know, his availability hasn't exactly

568
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Speaker 1: been at the top of the charts since he's come

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, So you know, I don't know, somebody's gonna

570
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Speaker 1: have to evaluate that because to him, to me right now,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a rumor. And I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: who else there is in the depth chart behind them.

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Speaker 4: You know, Spencer Anderson and McCollum have done some things.

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Speaker 4: You know, the interior's got some guys I think another

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Speaker 4: tackle wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Hurt Yeah, again, you know, you have some guys who

577
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Speaker 1: can be part time fill ins and possibly not really

578
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Speaker 1: hurt you. But if you have some early season, season

579
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Speaker 1: ending injuries, do you have any guys you can put

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Speaker 1: in there and you're comfortable with playing twelve or thirteen games?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know again, Spencer Anderson is valuable

582
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Speaker 1: for his versatility. He can you know, he's a good

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Speaker 1: guy to give a helmet two on game days. He

584
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Speaker 1: can play a lot of positions, so you know that

585
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Speaker 1: helps you. You know, Spencer Anderson, in my view, is

586
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Speaker 1: a guy who helps you get through a game, But

587
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Speaker 1: can he get you through a month without a guy

588
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Speaker 1: that you anointed or decided was your full time starter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm not ready to say that

590
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Speaker 1: he is. And so that's why I say, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's kind of like Corey Trice

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Speaker 1: to me, you think that the guy can be good,

593
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Speaker 1: but counting on him, Yeah, I think it's optimistic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, insurance policy, you know, right if he he right.

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Speaker 1: If he isn't, because he hasn't been, he hasn't been

596
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Speaker 1: able to you know, the the succession with Corey Trice,

597
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Speaker 1: the succession of knee injuries that went back to his

598
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Speaker 1: time in college. Just for me, uh, you know, living

599
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Speaker 1: in your fears, the lord of living in your fears

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Speaker 1: that you know, with Corey Trice, I think you kind

601
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Speaker 1: of have to live in your fears based on his

602
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Speaker 1: recent history. It's not his fault. I'm not blaming him,

603
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Speaker 1: but it's his reality. So that's the other thing. With

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, who do you have you know that

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Speaker 1: you can put in to start thirteen or fourteen games

606
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Speaker 1: at one of the guard spots or at center. I

607
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Speaker 1: don't know that you have anybody. Now maybe you don't.

608
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Speaker 1: You don't. You can't afford to try and build the

609
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Speaker 1: line depth that way. Because you have other things you

610
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Speaker 1: got to worry about, and you only have you know,

611
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Speaker 1: the draft is only seven rounds. You only have you know,

612
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Speaker 1: so many picks in the first couple of.

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Speaker 3: Days, and all the other thirty one teams are having

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Speaker 3: the same conversation, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody has enough offensive line. So you know, I

616
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Speaker 1: think it can be better, should be better next year,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know about depth. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: injury situation is something you're gonna need to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of luck with, Bob.

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Speaker 3: But you mentioned the you know, thinking one thing and

621
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Speaker 3: being able to know that thing are two different situations.

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Speaker 3: Thinking that this player can do this and then knowing

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Speaker 3: that he can be the starter all sixteen games are

624
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Speaker 3: different knowing that how does that? What does that mean

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Speaker 3: for the quarterback position? For you?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a tough it's a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I also think that you can only

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Speaker 1: do what's realistic. I don't know that it's possible for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers to go into twenty twenty five knowing that

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Speaker 1: they have a quarterback who is capable of playing an

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Speaker 1: entire season, UH getting them into the playoffs and then

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Speaker 1: winning in the playoffs. You can think or hope, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I just don't. I don't believe that it's possible,

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Speaker 1: you know, to have that kind of certainty for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the my lifetime during this,

636
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Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers during my lifetime, you know, there

637
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Speaker 1: hasn't there haven't been many years when they've had that

638
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: kind of certainty. And you know, there there was a

639
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Speaker 1: time in Terry Bradshaw's career when he gave you that certainty,

640
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Speaker 1: but it was not when he was drafted in nineteen

641
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Speaker 1: seventy nor was it probably until nineteen seventy five. You know, Ben,

642
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: with Ben, that was a uniquely you know, that was

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Speaker 1: a Halley's common kind of situation where pretty much, you know,

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Speaker 1: eight weeks into his rookie season, eight weeks into his

645
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: rookie season, you kind of knew this guy, this was

646
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Speaker 1: the guy. But you know, outside of that, I don't remember,

647
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Speaker 1: you know, anybody who.

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Speaker 3: You said you don't feel that way about Neil.

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Speaker 1: I still I will say this. I will tell anybody

650
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Speaker 1: who ever asked me this, if Bubby Brister was the

651
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Speaker 1: quarterback in Super Bowl thirty, the Steelers do not lose

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Speaker 1: that game. That's how convinced I am that it was

653
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Speaker 1: not Neil. Neil was not interested in a lot of

654
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Speaker 1: doing a lot of the gritty things that quarterbacks have

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Speaker 1: to do to win games, i e. Standing in the

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Speaker 1: pocket and taking a hit and livering the ball, and

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Speaker 1: so no, it was never Neil for me.

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Speaker 4: Never is your hunch the opening day starter will be

659
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Speaker 4: one of the two guys that were on the team, though.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean because I don't. There's right, you can't.

661
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Speaker 1: You're not going to sign a free agent. Those guys

662
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Speaker 1: are looking at forty million a year and up, I

663
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Speaker 1: think you know it's gonna get stupid. March start in

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Speaker 1: March twelfth, and all of those guys are I think,

665
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Speaker 1: at least the ones I can think of are multiple

666
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Speaker 1: team rejects or move on from us or however you

667
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Speaker 1: want to describe Seem Darnold as an example. And I

668
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Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go that route.

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Speaker 4: And it's a good end if with Scott Mitchell, yes,

670
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Speaker 4: and he probably doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy

671
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Speaker 4: that you got a guy yet either, you know, if

672
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Speaker 4: the day you sign him, it's still uncertain.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and again, this is not a roster in my

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Speaker 1: opinion that just needs that position. I mean, that's a

675
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Speaker 1: very important position, and I think that there is a

676
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Speaker 1: definite need at that position. And but I don't think

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Speaker 1: you could commit your salary cap dollars all to that

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Speaker 1: and think, Okay, now we got to figure it out

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Speaker 1: based on what is available in this particular free agent class,

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Speaker 1: or really in any free agent class at that position.

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Speaker 4: And then it's not like Burrow onto this roster or

682
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Speaker 4: you know Lamar Allen, right right.

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Speaker 3: That's a completely different conversation those guys.

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Speaker 1: And there is also there is also if you have

685
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Speaker 1: the first pick in this draft, there is no Burrow either.

686
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that you kind of have to

687
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Speaker 1: figure out who you know, it's either just If Justin

688
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: Fields or Russell Wilson. Who do you like better? Who

689
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: do you think gives you a better chance to do

690
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Speaker 1: what you want to do and get where you want

691
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Speaker 1: to go?

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Speaker 4: And I see the argument for both considering cost and

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Speaker 4: age and every ass spect of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, yes, and every aspect of it cost and

695
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Speaker 1: age and height. Yeah, And.

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Speaker 4: As the just athleticism.

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Speaker 1: Athleticism I mean is Justin Field is going to be

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Speaker 1: able to read it, see it and deliver the ball

699
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Speaker 1: or or let me say it this way, read it,

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Speaker 1: anticipate it, and deliver the ball, because if he waits

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Speaker 1: until he sees it, it's too late. You know, that's.

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Speaker 4: The Ohio State anymore, right, Yeah, because you don't get

703
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Speaker 4: to play Northwestern. You just don't a bunch of first

704
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Speaker 4: round picks protecting you in first round picks getting open

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Speaker 4: and right.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you don't have the talent disparity at every

707
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Speaker 1: position like he had at Ohio State. And you know

708
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Speaker 1: the level of defense you're you know, every maybe the

709
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Speaker 1: most NFL players an Ohio State quarterback has ever gone

710
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Speaker 1: against on an opposing defenses three or four except practices, right, well,

711
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: but they don't hit them in their own pre right.

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Speaker 4: Even Monday night, there was only a couple on their right.

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Speaker 1: Even against Jacksonville or whoever you could perceive as the

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Speaker 1: worst team in the NFL, that team has twelve NFL

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Speaker 1: players on their defense. Maybe you don't think they're any good,

716
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Speaker 1: but they're good enough to be in the NFL, and

717
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Speaker 1: they're good enough to be starting in the NFL, and

718
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Speaker 1: so that makes them better than you know, ninety five

719
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Speaker 1: percent of the defensive players on any college team that

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Speaker 1: you might face. So, uh, you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the answer is. I'm just glad I'm not the

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Speaker 1: one making it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly what we said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that there is a slam dunk

725
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Speaker 1: right answer, but you better come up with the right

726
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Speaker 1: somebody might somebody better up with the right answer, or

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Speaker 1: you know, the twenty twenty five season, I don't even

728
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna. I don't know that it would

729
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: be a whole lot different from twenty twenty four in

730
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Speaker 1: terms of frustrating, ending in a disappointing way, because that

731
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Speaker 1: position is just too too important at the NFL level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you completely, Bob. And you know,

733
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Speaker 3: it almost sounds like, well, there's no hope for twenty

734
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Speaker 3: twenty five. Well, I don't know that I would say

735
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Speaker 3: I would go that far, because I do think that

736
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: this team can again some of the young guys that

737
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: have played a lot over the last two years, they're

738
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Speaker 3: allowed to get better, and you're going to add an

739
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Speaker 3: influx of talent onto this roster, presumably in the draft,

740
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Speaker 3: and they got to you know, they've got cap space

741
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Speaker 3: to do some things in free agency. I think there's

742
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: some ways that they can certainly upgrade this team and

743
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Speaker 3: be better in twenty twenty five than they were in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. And I you know, it wasn't all

745
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: bad in twenty twenty four. I know that the way

746
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: it ended was bad. There's no in fans or mutch

747
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: about it and the way you know you went out.

748
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: But you're not going to play a stretch of games

749
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Speaker 3: where you play the Eagles, Bravens and Chiefs in a

750
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: short period of time. Presumably you're not.

751
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Speaker 1: Going to get hosed again for Hard Knocks.

752
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Speaker 4: You would think not. You would think not.

753
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Speaker 1: And that's you know, speaking of you know, my rant

754
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: about the ridiculousness of the NFL. And then there's that,

755
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: because that's that's what's important to too many people in

756
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: New York, that kind of garbage Hard Knocks. Let's let's,

757
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, create Let's create drama instead of just

758
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: allowing it to unfold. Because as I've said on with

759
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: you and Matt, I've said this, I've written this. No

760
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: one will convince me that that schedule, the way it

761
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: was loaded and all that stuff was not a favorite

762
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Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks. You know, let's create this, this show

763
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: for this broadcast partner or whatever this is, and you know,

764
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Speaker 1: let's do this. It's it's just as stupid as allowing

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Speaker 1: one quarterback on one team to be treated totally differently

766
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Speaker 1: than every other quarterback on every other team. And you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: you did your hard knocks penance. Now now let's get

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Speaker 1: to you know, get to something that's you know, makes

769
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Speaker 1: a little bit more sense in terms of this, the

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Speaker 1: spacing of the games, the placement of the games so

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Speaker 1: that it's not allow the drama to unfold, allow the

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Speaker 1: you know, the reality of the reality TV aspect of

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Speaker 1: the NFL where on any given week, any team can

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Speaker 1: beat any other team. Allow that to unfold organically. Let's

775
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Speaker 1: not script it, uh, And that that to me is

776
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: competitive fairness. Allowing it to develop organically. Let's see what

777
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Speaker 1: we can set up here for TV or for behind

778
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Speaker 1: the scenes cameras or or that kind of stuff. To

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Speaker 1: me is it's a shame that that exists.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 3: We've got to let you go here, Bob. We appreciate

782
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Speaker 3: your time. As always, we can let you get back

783
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Speaker 3: to enjoying a week of no more Ravens football.

784
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Speaker 4: No more hard knocks, because no one's left in the

785
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Speaker 4: division yeah, nobody.

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Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe I'll actually get to go to

787
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: full days without shovel.

788
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Speaker 3: And snow that happen, although it's so cold now it does.

789
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Speaker 3: It's not knowing it's too cold to snow. So there's that.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen in Washington this morning.

791
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Speaker 3: Oh it was Chile, it was chilly.

792
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Speaker 4: Anyways.

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Speaker 3: Our guest has been Bob Labriola, the Dean of Doom,

794
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: the lord of living in his fears. Any editor of

795
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Speaker 3: Steelers Digestic Steelers dot Com does great work there, check

796
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Speaker 3: that out. We're gonna let Bob go. He is Matt Williamson.

797
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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

798
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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 3: right after this.

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Speaker 2: At this he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

801
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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

802
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back on Dale Lolly. He is the

804
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and gets some news and notes here for today.

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Speaker 4: Matt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the coach se ands and Al Golden set to

807
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 3: return as the Bengals defensive coordinator. He just was coaching

808
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 3: the games defense.

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Speaker 4: They got eliminated time like he got hired the next day.

810
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he will be the guy coordinating the Bengals defense.

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Speaker 4: I know he's been in the league, but I don't

812
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: know what style of defense he does in what his

813
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: situation is. But they got a lot out of that

814
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: Notre Dame defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's returning to the Bengals because he was their

816
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Speaker 3: linebackers coach under Zach Taylor from twenty twenty to twenty

817
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Speaker 3: twenty one. Okay, so he was part of their Super

818
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: Bowl run that year, gotcha?

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Speaker 4: Gotcha? Not a lot of crazy changes probably, Yeah, I

820
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: wouldn't think so. And he's gonna have the same players,

821
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Speaker 4: well hopefully not for them. Yeah, we're going to add

822
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Speaker 4: some move on from quite a few, I would. Yeah,

823
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Speaker 4: I think that defense will look a lot different. But

824
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Speaker 4: I don't know how many cards in their hand they're

825
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Speaker 4: going to have to do that if they signed Higgins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a problem. The Jaguars also fired that GM

827
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Speaker 3: Trent Balki. He is out. Just happened, Yeah, he is

828
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Speaker 3: out of the Jaguars GM. Of course, the Lions of

829
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Speaker 3: lost Aaron Glenn, as they've lost both coordinators now Aaron

830
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Speaker 3: Glenn becoming the head coach of the new York Jets,

831
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Speaker 3: and so Arthur Smith will not be getting that job, right, right, right.

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Speaker 3: The Balki thing was interesting. Lines are gonna hit pretty

833
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: hard with yeah coaches, right, But the Balkis things interesting

834
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Speaker 3: because they had the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator came

835
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Speaker 3: in for an interview and left town said he's gonna

836
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Speaker 3: go back and be the offensive coordinator of the Buccaneers

837
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Speaker 3: as opposed to becoming the Jaguars head coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and became the highest paid offensive coordinator in

839
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Speaker 4: NFL history, which probably something to do with it as well.

840
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Speaker 4: But I wonder, like I think a lot of this

841
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: is a Ben Johnson ripple effect. Like I think the

842
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Speaker 4: Jags came in second on Ben Johnson and then pivoted

843
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 4: to Cohen, and Cohen told him no. And I think

844
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: Cohen might have looked at Johnson and said, if I

845
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Speaker 4: returned to the Bucks, we win the South again, We've

846
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Speaker 4: got a good line.

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Speaker 3: I might get my choice of john get a better

848
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Speaker 3: job than the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't have to do the head coaching

850
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: stuff this year, and I'm getting paid really really well.

851
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 4: I can, and you're seeing that a little bit more

852
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: with these coordinators are like, maybe my family likes it

853
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: in Tampa, sure, you know, the Lebos and Spagnolo's, and

854
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: they're like, maybe I don't want to be in charge

855
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: of the diets and the parking situation, all the and

856
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 4: the media and all the nonsense that is opposed to

857
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: coaching guys. You know, Kingsbury came out and said, I'm

858
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: just loving calling plays and developing quarterbacks. You know, I

859
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: was supposed the head coaching stuff, and they're really well compensated.

860
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But the Balki thing becomes interesting now because you know,

861
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars could have fired him at the end of

862
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Speaker 3: the year and maybe had a head coach by now,

863
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: and maybe had a head coach by now. We're another

864
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: GM in place to hire your head coach. Now they've

865
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Speaker 3: kind of drugged their heels and missed out on some guys.

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Speaker 4: I think the owner, mister Kahan, realized this. I didn't

867
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Speaker 4: play this right, you know, like people are telling me

868
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Speaker 4: no because they don't want to work with him.

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Speaker 3: Not that Trent Balkie felt the wreath of.

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Speaker 4: Kahn, the wreth of Gone, Yeah, indeed, but he should

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Speaker 4: have done felt it probably a month ago, and the

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Speaker 4: Jags might have been in better shape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he is buggered up that situation over

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Speaker 3: and over again.

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Speaker 4: Over and over, and he's been part of several hires.

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Speaker 4: He's got kind of an odd way of evaluating players,

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Speaker 4: going back to his Niners days. He's all about length

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Speaker 4: and traits. And you know, he took Walker instead of Hutchinson,

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean, the perfect example, and he has

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Speaker 4: the owners seems that he had kind of a teflon

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Speaker 4: feel to him there for a while too, but I

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Speaker 4: think they realized this is not helping the cause.

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Speaker 3: To your point, they've had the number one overall pick

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Speaker 3: a couple of times. Yeah, during his tenure, they're pretty

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Speaker 3: damn close to having the number one pick this year.

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Speaker 4: It's becoming a regular occurrent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this was how bad things can get.

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Speaker 4: Folks.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this was a Jaguars team. If you remember that,

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Speaker 3: and obviously you do if you're a Steelers fan. That

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Speaker 3: came in here in twenty seventeen, was supposed to be

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Speaker 3: the next big thing in the league. Yeah, well, you

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Speaker 3: look at all this young talent that they have, Look

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Speaker 3: at all these guys that they've they've acquired here, they

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Speaker 3: make it to the AFC, championship game and haven't sniffed

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Speaker 3: being that far since I.

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Speaker 4: Mean at least the last decade. But coming back even further,

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Speaker 4: look how many times they've picked in the top eight,

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Speaker 4: you know, four Net and Ramsey and Bortles, imber.

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Speaker 3: Answering those questions when the Steelers did play them in

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. Look at all that defensive talent they've acquired. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're picking in the top ten every year. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like that's how you get those guys.

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Speaker 4: And they also had a habit after that, more recently

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Speaker 4: of just overpaying a lot of defensive talent and then

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Speaker 4: having cap issues and not enough to show for it,

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Speaker 4: which is also a Balki thing. But I look at

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Speaker 4: the Lions and be like, you lost both coordinators. I

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Speaker 4: think the Shay Townsend is interviewing with the Niners right now.

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Speaker 4: Their defensive line coach who I actually was with Williams

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Speaker 4: was he was our d line coach at Akron twenty

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Speaker 4: years ago, so I'm kind of rooting for him. He

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Speaker 4: looks like he's gonna be the defensive coordinator with the Patriots,

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Speaker 4: Like they're getting hit hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and well that happens. That happened right, But anyways,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what's going on around to Lee, We're

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Speaker 3: going to get to another break that's going to do

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Speaker 3: it for our number one of the drive here on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and Now will be back

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Speaker 3: with our number two right after this