1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty and he 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty. 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: On Chinese social media, AI generated video just like robot 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: robot dogs and soldiers liberating a backward, impoverished United States, 7 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: seizing guns, commandeering churches, a dystopian vision of a future 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: America under Chinese control, powered by drones and AI tech 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: made in China. 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: A further record, I am backward, but I'm not impoverished. 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: That song Chinese social media, which of course nothing gets 12 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: to make the rounds on Chinese social media without approval 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: of the Communist. 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: Party, just like TikTok. And of course it was a big. 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: Benefit to them to have this American skater skating for 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: the Chinese Communist Party where they can skier sorry making 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: the argument that she wasn't making the argument, but they 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: can couch it around a profile of her skating skiing 19 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 4: for China as this is why she's skiing for us, 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 4: because they're an impoverished backward country and right yeah, their biggest, 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: brightest stars want to be on our side. 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Chinese American young lady whose father told the 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Communists to f off when they came with their money 24 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: just won the gold medal. Yeah, miss Woo, so, I'm 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: sorry that's you. So our slogan today is woo you 26 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: boo boo. That's such a ready made, great story. It's 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: too bad the media doesn't have any interest in it. 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: You got one grow up in Oakland, one grew up 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. 30 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: Both approached by the Communists to compete for their team. 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: One said screw you, wins a gold medal. The other one, 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: also gold medal winner, decides to help support the Communist party. 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: It's such an interesting story. But yeah, I media has 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: no interest in it. 35 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: No, no, they're terrible. They hate America and I hate them. 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: So we do have breaking news. I need to hit 37 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: you with your more breaking news. More breaking news. This 38 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: isn't even the Supreme Court has said no to the tariffs. 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: We're going to talk more about that later this hour. 40 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: This is about the Iran strike. 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: President Trump just told reporters that he's considering a limited 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: military strike in Iran to pressure it. 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: Into a deal. 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: So hit them a little bit for a day and say, okay, 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: you want more or what. 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: I am not joking exactly. It might not be a 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: bad idea. He's been hinting around that for a little 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: while now. Yeah, I don't know. 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: He's probably actually thinking, you morons, we're gonna just we're 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: gonna destroy everything. We're gonna kill you all. 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna destroy everything you've built. What are you gonna 52 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: get out of this, you idiots? Yeah, which is a 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: good question. Yeah. 54 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: Please grab our discussion with Mike Lyons from Last Hour 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: via podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. As I said, 56 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: if I'm the Iranians or I'm advising them, number one, 57 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I've lost my soul. 58 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: Kill me if you see me. 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Secondly, I would say, agreed to anything, absolutely anything. We'll 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: start cheating next week. We'll you know, we'll strang along 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: the way till there's a Democrat in the White House. 62 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Then we'll cry that our people are being starved, and 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: AOC will come to our aid and we'll get a 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: better agreement. Then we'll go back to getting our nukes together. 65 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: We just got to bide our time for a while. 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: If why they're not doing that really both fascinates me 67 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: and perplexes me. 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: Or even if they sincerely decided we got to give 69 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: up on this nuclear weapon thing. 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: I wish we could have gotten one, but we can't. 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: And so our choice now is either we all die 72 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: and everything gets demolished in this country, or we agree 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: to this stuff. 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: So let's agree. I mean, that wouldn't be a crazy 75 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: thing to do, No, not at all. 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: In fact, anything else would be a crazy thing to do. 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what they're thinking. 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: What I wonder is, politically, what would a sustained military 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: campaign against Iran? You're gonna have videos coming out of 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: civilians dying, because it's gonna be hard to drop a 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: whole bunch of bombs and blow up all that sort 82 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: of stuff without having civilians die. What's the what's the 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: political mood gonna be in this country? 84 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Well, and the only thing, as they say, Hamas or 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Iran likes better than a dead Jewish child is a 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: dead Palestinian. 87 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 4: Child or a dead in Iranian right, since they have 88 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: no problem killing their own people killed thirty thousand just 89 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: a couple of weekends ago. 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, mote them down the streets. 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: They'll kill a bunch of people and put out video 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: of look what the Americans are doing. 93 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, their most talented filmmakers are gearing up right now 94 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: to do that very thing. So that's Oh, these are 95 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: enjoyable times, So we need to take a break in 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: at least a couple of minutes. 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: Then come back. If we're going to discuss the. 98 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Fact that everything, everything, everything is downstream of culture, nobody 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: ever talks about it, or one of the worst things 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: she's ever said AOC normally just a cute dope. She 101 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: denigrated the very idea that there is such a thing 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: as Western culture or Judeosh Christian culture. And I am 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: going to fight back against that moronic, dangerous, self hating 104 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: notion in a couple of months. 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: Okay, Then quick poll before we go to break and 106 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: complete honest answer. Michael, Katie, everyone, I swore off desserts 107 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: as a new Year's resolution. My birthday is tomorrow. Can 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: I have a piece of cake on my birthday as 109 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: an exception or not? 110 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: Yes? 111 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: Michael, Yes, Okay, Katie, Yeah, absolutely really interesting. 112 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 113 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: Joe is a no Joseph no, no, get a great substitute. 114 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: You'll give yourself one hundred dollars budget at the bookstore. 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: Go buy a real couple, really special books. It doesn't 116 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: taste like cake. That's they're the right books. At tons birthday, 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: both of my. 118 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 4: Both my nieces, I texted them and they were like, yeah, 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: your birthday one day, that's no big deal. Of course 120 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 4: you canna have cake. Both my brothers, they're my niece's 121 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: fathers were like, hell, no, absolutely not. You can't change 122 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: the rules in the middle of the game. See, i'm 123 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 4: your blood, I'm your brother with another mother. I'm saying 124 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: the same thing. No, you must be strong. Neares' resolutions 125 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 4: are funny this way. It's people are so all or 126 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: nothing about them. I mean the point is really to 127 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: eat much, to eat better, Yes, and one day is 128 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: not going to change that. 129 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Now you're a liar. 130 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine if you can, if you can live 131 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: with that, if. 132 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: You can sleep at night having had a piece of cake, 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: monster that you are. 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: No, I wish you had said the only cake I 135 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: will eat, the only desserts I will eat are my birthday, 136 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and Christmas. 137 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: But I had to anno set ahead of time, or 138 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: I've committed a Yes, yes, it was an implied contract. 139 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: I know the law. Oh my god, it's hilarious. 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Hanson wants to know if you want a trophy just 141 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: for showing up today. E w w JE what would 142 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Jesus eat? We'll discuss that perhaps coming up. 143 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: I would like a participation certificate for having just appeared 144 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: at work today. Okay, we'll get to that or of 145 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: stuff Joe mentioned next. They just released a trailer for 146 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: Toy Story five. Does it have all the original stars? 147 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: And I don't know, but uh, it's Tom Hanks still there. 148 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I have to look into that. 149 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, stringing out a beloved, short, little string of movies 150 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: for obvious profit, that's the business there. 151 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: They had been good though, all the ones I've seen, 152 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: as opposed to like a lot of other sequels which 153 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: just fall off a cliff right, right, So Audie. 154 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: Tom Hanks and Tomlin are in it. Okay, cool? 155 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Ye here, all right, for goodness sakes, we're going to 156 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: talk about children's movies here. 157 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: Now we're tartoons. We're done for children. We're done, all right. 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: So the other day AOC said and did one of 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the worst things she ever has, not that it matters. 160 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: She used finger quotes when she described Western values, which 161 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: was an idiotic thing to do. But she's an idiot, 162 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised. There have been a couple of well, 163 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: there have been many, many stories lately that have to 164 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,119 Speaker 1: do with the culture wars and you know, the universities 165 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: and just that whole realm of news that are essentially 166 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:44,119 Speaker 1: a denial that Western values, Judeo Christian principles are valuable 167 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and great. In fact, they're usually portrayed as evil or 168 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: exclusionary or bigoted or something like that, and then it's 169 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: fallen to the half wits and white supremacists and nick 170 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Fuentes of the world to defend quote unquote Western values, 171 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: which is not a good way to go, which is 172 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: why it was so gratifying to hear Marco Rubio in 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: his well received speech over there in Munich talking about 174 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: that very thing. As Barton Swain points out, and yeah, 175 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: I wish we had time for the whole thing, but 176 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: we don't. 177 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: He said, the. 178 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: World's least Christianized societies are the least open, intolerant, in short, 179 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the least liberal. If any of you atheists were to 180 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: listen ten nations in which you would agree to live permanently, 181 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,239 Speaker 1: there's a good chance all ten would bear the indelible 182 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: marks of Christian belief and practice. 183 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this reminds me of that Tom Holland book 184 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: we are talking about a couple weeks back, Dominion. I 185 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: think it's called about, yep, the importance of Christian values 186 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: and how we're all living in Christian culture, whether you 187 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 4: realize it or not, whether you go to church or 188 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: believe or anything or not, you're benefit fitting from Christian culture. 189 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 190 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: This, the discussion we're having right now, really has nothing 191 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to do with accepting Jesus as the divine made human 192 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: and the Son of God and the Savior or whatever else. 193 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: It has to do with, well, for instance, you know, 194 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: the key the core thesis of Dominion is that most Westerners, 195 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: including liberals and atheists and progressives, are far more Christian 196 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: in their moral instincts than they realize. The values they 197 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: hold most dear I'm quoting now human rights, compassion for 198 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: the weak, opposition to cruelty, love of equality, the idea 199 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: that the power should be powerful, should be accountable. Those 200 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: do not emerge from neutral reason or natural human sentiment. 201 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: There's specific inheritances of Christianity. 202 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: One of the things Tom Holland talks a lot about 203 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: in his book is how prior to the Christian Revolution 204 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 4: or philosophy or whatever come along. 205 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: The strong. 206 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: Beating up on the weak was accepted as good, cool, 207 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: like the way things should be. If you went into 208 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: a town and you could, you killed all the men 209 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: and raped all the women, and they had it coming 210 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: because they were weak and couldn't stop. 211 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: It, right, and it was you okay with that. 212 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: Progressives Christianity that brought about the idea of no, no, no. 213 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: The week need to be defended and supported against the 214 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 4: strong trying to do whatever they want. 215 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 216 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: That is a great for instance for our progressive friends. 217 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: Here's a short list of the underpinnings of Western values 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: and democracy in general that flow directly from Judeo Christian values. 219 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: Human dignity, inequality. This is, to Jack's point, the idea 220 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: that every person is made in the image of God 221 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: laid a theological foundation for the beliefs that each individual 222 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: has inherent worth, which later translated into natural rights theory 223 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: equals standing before the law in universal human rights, Jewish 224 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: and Christian values limited government and the rule of law. 225 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: The Bible the Old Testament established that even kings were 226 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: subject to God's law, a radical idea for the ancient world. 227 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: The prophetic tradition meant rulers could be publicly rebuked. This 228 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: contributed to the concept that no human authority is absolute, 229 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: which underpins constitutional limits on power. How about individual conscience 230 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: and moral accountability. Emphasizes the direct relationship between the individual 231 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: and God, making personal conscience and moral anchor. This fed 232 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: into ideas of religious freedom, freedom of thought, speech, and 233 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: individual rights that are central to liberal democracy. The separation 234 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: of the sacred and the secular. I think that's self explanatory. 235 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: The idea of covenant and consent, the Hebrew covenant tradition, 236 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: God in a community enter into a mutual agreement with 237 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: obligations on both sides. That influenced early modern political thinkers 238 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: like John Locke in developing social contract theory, which is 239 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: foundational to democratic legitimacy. 240 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 4: Well, how about this one. I haven't mentioned this one 241 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: on the air because it's so freaking grim. But Tom 242 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: Holland and look for interviews with him on YouTube, and 243 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: he is not a believer who's trying to go around 244 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: converting you to, you know, believing in Jesus being the 245 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: son of God, as opposed to the Christian morals that 246 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: we all are living in. We're all swimming in, whether 247 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 4: we know it or not. He's the example of if 248 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: you go around to archaeological sites pre Christianity, you find 249 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: lots of tiny bones in where there would be refuse 250 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: or the sewers or whatever of those towns, because killing 251 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: babies was just a thing forever un planet Earth. If 252 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 4: you had a baby that was inconvenient, or you didn't 253 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 4: want a girl or whatever, murderer was just fine. And 254 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: you don't find that in the town's post Christianity, when 255 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: we began to value life. I mean, that is a. 256 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Stark comparison, right, right, the idea that empires should be 257 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: not cruel in colonializing the world straight out of Christianity. 258 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: The abolition of slavery has Christian roots almost entirely. In fact, 259 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: they just reinstituted slavery in Afghanistan because slavery is absolutely 260 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: acceptable in Islam. 261 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: And so yeah, there's a little contrast there for you. 262 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: So anyway, I don't want to conduct a whole college 263 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: class on this, although you know what, Holland does make 264 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: the point that, as Jack inted at, modern progressive movements 265 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: are deeply Christian in structure. Care for the marginalized social 266 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: justice hashtag me too, anti racism. These are essentially Christian 267 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: moral impulses operating without Christian theology anyway. 268 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: Your point being that AOC saying Western values or Western 269 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: culture or whatever she said with their finger quotes, right, 270 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: what are you talking about as if it doesn't exist, 271 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: or that it's mostly a force for evil rights. 272 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: So brutally horrifically wrong. 273 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I just felt we ought to talk about it a 274 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: little bit, and I would like to enlist you, all 275 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: of you as defenders of Judeo Christian principles, no matter 276 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: your religious beliefs, and defenders of Western values, because they 277 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: underpin everything we hold dear, and the idea that we 278 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: can just scoff at them or let them die and 279 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: things will continue on as they are because they've always 280 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: been this way and there's no other systems, or there's 281 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: no chance we return to the brutality of pre Christian life. 282 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Come on, it's right around the bend. Everybody, from Jesus 283 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: himself the Reagan would tell you that we're one generation 284 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: away from it all falling apart. So do not ever 285 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: apologize for Western values. Defend them every chance you get. 286 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: So the biggest breaking news of the day is the 287 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: Supreme Court ruling that Trump cannot, under a fifty year 288 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: old law, enact all these tariffs because of an emergency. 289 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: He's that whole tariff thing. The whole Trump tariff thing 290 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: is over and a nodding of it is going to 291 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: be something to see. Nobody's quite sure how that's going 292 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: to work, but yeah, it's over. The out of control 293 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: Trump Supreme Court basically just a rubber stamp for whatever 294 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: Trump wants shot down. His biggest philosophy that he's ever 295 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: had in his life is this whole tariff thing and born. 296 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: To Chuck Schumer's speech and apology about how wrong he was. 297 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: I got Chuck Schumer's quotes here before you want. Chuck 298 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Schumer said, actually, I guess I don't have it. I 299 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: didn't capture it. 300 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: But he he said, finally, the Supreme Court shows that 301 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: a wanna be king cannot dictate to the world blah 302 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: blah blah sort of thing. 303 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: You'd expect him to say, Yeah, yeah, he is a weasel. 304 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to a legal expert about this 305 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: ruling coming up in just moments. 306 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, an expert on the separation of powers from the 307 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: Pacific Legal Foundation. 308 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: Want to ask about the descent. 309 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: Some of our favorite justices dissented from the majority stay 310 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: with us, Armstrong and Getty. 311 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: The Supreme Court ruling that President Trump's use these emergency 312 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 5: tariffs that he has implemented are illegal. It's the most 313 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 5: significant economic case to reach the High Court in years, 314 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: sweeping implications for the economy and of course for presidential 315 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 5: power and at stake. Here are billions of dollars in 316 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 5: revenue that have already been collected by the government. 317 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 318 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: Really interesting thing about this is it's a six' three 319 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: and the dissenters on This Justice, thomas along With kavanaugh And, 320 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 4: alita are usually the hardcore conservatives on The. Court but 321 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: all my favorite super hardcore limited powers conservative pundits out 322 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: there agree with the. Decision So i'm confused by. 323 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: This, Indeed, yeah who better to ask Than Molly, nixon 324 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: an attorney with The Pacific Legal foundation who is, very 325 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: very interested in the concept of limited power and separation 326 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: of powers and that sort of, thing, interestingly having served 327 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: in all three branches of government at. 328 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: Times, molly how are you? 329 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 6: Welcome i'm, Good thanks for having me. 330 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: On, oh it's our. Pleasure so why don't we start 331 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: Where jack was introducing you are you surprised at who 332 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: joined the majority striking down the tariffs and who was 333 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: dissenting and? 334 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: Why you, KNOW i think. 335 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 6: After the oral argument it wasn't entirely clear where each 336 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 6: justice was going to come, down and there are countervealing 337 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 6: factors where you can kind of see how the defense 338 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 6: ended up where they. Were And i'm JUST i should, 339 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 6: say as one hundred and seventy pages that came out 340 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 6: about an hour, ago and So i'm still swimming through, 341 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 6: them but you do have you have two, dissents AND 342 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 6: i think a lot of it is the different weights 343 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 6: they give to history and. Precedence so they're looking at 344 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 6: they're looking at different parts of, History they're looking at 345 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: different statutory precedence and coming down a different, sides just 346 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: weighing them. Differently AND i can go into it a bit. 347 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: More but, yeah, well are you surprised by the? Ruling 348 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: i'm not. 349 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 6: SO i should. Say we have AT, plf we represent 350 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 6: clients in a very very similar challenge also at The 351 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 6: court Of International trade to the same, tariffs the same emergency, 352 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: tariffs and we've been thinking a lot about emergency, powers 353 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 6: really worried about how much Power congress has given, away 354 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: and really really satisfied that The court saw, that at 355 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 6: least in this one an, instance The congress did not 356 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 6: give away the power to tax as an emergency power, 357 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 6: Here so really gratified by that and really not surprised 358 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 6: at the at the. 359 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: Outcome. WELL i was just Reading David. 360 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: French he's A New York times columnist And Harvard law 361 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: sort of, guy and he, said the through line on 362 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: a lot of decisions recently is The Supreme court jamming 363 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: the presidency back into its constitutional. Box putting together this 364 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: tariff ruling along with Telling Joe, biden, hey you don't 365 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 4: get to wipe out all the student, loans you, know 366 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: things like. 367 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 6: THAT i think that's exactly. Right, YEAH i mean we've seen. 368 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 6: It there's been a lot of commentary about The Supreme 369 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 6: court when it rules for the, president for the, administration 370 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 6: AND i think that's a lot of within the executive. 371 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 6: Branch the president has a lot of. Power The constitution 372 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 6: vests a lot of power within the branch in the. 373 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 6: President But congress is that it's the first article The, 374 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 6: constitution and they really have all that legislative. Power and of, 375 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 6: course if you look back To tonty era. History taxation 376 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 6: was a big one that we cared a lot about 377 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 6: and we gave that explicitly To. Congress and so The 378 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 6: court's going to take a very careful look at claims 379 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 6: That congress delegated that power to the. President and here's 380 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 6: the words that the administration was relying on to claim 381 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 6: this tariff power is the words regulate and. Quotation and 382 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 6: they said regularly includes a power to. Tariff and that's 383 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 6: really that's the main difference between the majority and the 384 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 6: scent is is do those words mean include taxes or? 385 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Not, WELL i gotta ADMIT i can't wait to read the. 386 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: SENSE i feel, like you, know those justices going the 387 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: way they. DID i feel like my mom endorsed fist 388 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: fighting in bars On friday. NIGHT i JUST i don't get. 389 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: It you, know the separation of powers is such as 390 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: sacred conservative. Principle but, anyway AM i correct that the 391 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: decision really does not address the sure to be incredibly 392 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: complex on nodding of all of. This who gets their money? 393 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: Back what about the trade, agreements et? 394 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 6: Cetera, Right And i've been skimming Through twitter to see 395 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 6: if the administration is saying, anything because what it did 396 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 6: was affirm the judgment, below and the judgment below had, said, 397 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 6: well initially there was a trial court decision that enjoyed the, 398 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 6: tariffs so it said, stop you can't do. THIS i 399 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 6: think it gave the administration at ten day deadline to. 400 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 6: Stop and then The Appellate court, said we're not so 401 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 6: sure about. That we think we agree that the tariffs 402 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 6: are unlawful in this, instance but we're not sure exactly 403 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 6: what the reds that he needs to, be whether you, 404 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 6: know whether you can stop the terrors just for the 405 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 6: plaintiffs in this case or for, everyone how it will 406 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 6: how there will be. Refunds and so The Supreme court just, 407 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 6: said here's the her decision of the law is and 408 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 6: then they kick it back to the lower courts to 409 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 6: further analyze and address what the right remedy is. 410 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: Here, yeah that makes sense to. 411 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: Me. 412 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: Anything it's not their job, done not this whole. 413 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: THING i, mean slavery is, bad it's not, well how 414 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 4: is the cotton going to get? 415 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: Picked then that's, Right, mark, though on the other, hand 416 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: a Little i'm not an, attorney BUT i know many of. Them, 417 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: MOLLY a little inside attorney. Joke this will launch roughly 418 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: seven point nine billion billiple hours over the next two. 419 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: Years good. 420 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 6: Lord there's a lot of different ways this could. Go you. 421 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 6: Know there's the administration could could probably make this very 422 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 6: easy by seeing an administrative process for, refunds, SAY i 423 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 6: think they've done that before in the past for terrorists 424 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 6: that were collected. Unlawfully congress could also step in and set, 425 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 6: up you, know an organized. Process but there's also the 426 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 6: alternative of every single importer going to, court which is very, 427 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 6: messy but that's also a possibility here. Too and then 428 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 6: if it's still unclear whether the courts will decide that 429 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 6: refunds are in. 430 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: Order, yeah how about class? Action class action? 431 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 4: Lawsuits all of us have, paid you, know an extra 432 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 4: fifty bucks for a, microwave oven or, whatever want our money? 433 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: Back that's. 434 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 6: YEAH i think there's going to be a lot Of 435 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 6: there's already a lot of. Cases we were pretty early 436 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 6: on this in, court but since then there have been 437 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 6: a lot more filed by big importers looking to set 438 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 6: themselves up to receive refunds in expectation that The Supreme 439 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 6: court is hold the. 440 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: Tariff i'm awful well, Interesting, okay so we'll plow through 441 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: the decisions and perhaps appeal to you when all the 442 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: dust is settled next. 443 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: Week we'd love to do, that just out of. 444 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Curiosity when you're not worried about, tariffs when it comes 445 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: to separation of, powers what are you most passionate about these? 446 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 6: Days it's actually an alternative argument that was made in 447 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 6: this case that we really focused on, it and the 448 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 6: court didn't have to. Reach but so we argued That 449 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 6: congress did not give away its power. Here but we 450 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 6: said if they, did If, congress if The court had 451 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 6: read this statute and, said, yep looks Like congress gave 452 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 6: the president the power to tax, here we argued that 453 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 6: would be unconstitutional because that's a legislative. Power and if 454 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 6: the If congress gave away its power to tariff entirely 455 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 6: here to the president with no, boundaries no policy. Goals you, 456 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 6: know there are two sets of terrorifts were one was 457 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 6: to prevent or to limit drugged, importation and the other 458 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 6: one was trade deficits and left it entirely to the 459 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 6: executive branches to what countries we wanted to impose terroriffs 460 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 6: and for how long and to what? Degree you, know 461 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 6: at two five, percent that was that was really a 462 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 6: delegation of the legislative, power and we vested that In, 463 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 6: congress and they can ask the executive branch to exercise 464 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 6: some discretion and helping them execute the law That congress. 465 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 6: Passes but we, said if this law authorizes, tariffs Then 466 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: congress just addicated. Responsibility, basically then it would have just 467 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 6: given the president it's entire legislative. Power and So congress 468 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 6: has done that in a lot of in a lot of. 469 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 6: Cases and that's really my, passion and what got me 470 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 6: interested in trade policy to begin with was the amount 471 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 6: of trade, law the trade policy making That congress has 472 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 6: given to the executive. Branch and you've heard Of trump 473 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 6: administration say many, times even even if The Supreme court 474 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 6: rules against us, here we have lots of other. Authorities 475 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 6: and they're, right they. Do congress has given away a 476 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 6: lot of its power and so we'll see how that 477 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: sorts itself. 478 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: Out but, yeah my, passion. 479 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: My passion is. Origami but you, know we have different. 480 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: Things what was your all time Favorite Supreme court? 481 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 6: JUSTICE i think there are, several for several for different. 482 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 6: REASONS i do like the chief justices writing. STYLE i 483 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 6: THINK i really LIKED i really like Justice barrats. Approach 484 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 6: she's a very analytical approach to the law THAT i 485 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: find very. Satisfying and then there Are Chief Justice, MARSHALLS i, 486 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 6: think you, know are not our first Chief, justice but 487 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 6: the one who really transformed how we do judicial review 488 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 6: in this country. 489 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: And how the court. 490 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 6: Operates AND i JUST i recently finished a biography Of Justice. 491 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 6: Marshalling still in love with. 492 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: Him, okay, cool all, right my lightning round. Question do 493 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: you Think welsh taxes are? Constitutional for, instance the one 494 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: being considered By. California oh, gosh That's. 495 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 6: I'm SURE i could come up with an opinion on 496 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 6: that in a little, bit But. 497 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: I'm not right. 498 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: Now have you ever spent any time on? Origami you 499 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 4: start out with the piece of, paper next thing you, 500 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 4: know you got a little. 501 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: Duck you got a. Swan that's. Amazing Molly, Nixon, yeah. 502 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Exactly Molly nixon is with A pacific legal. Foundation absolutely 503 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: love chatting with, You. MOLLY i hope we can do it. 504 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: Again and she's, like, oh feeling is Non, MUTUALLY i. 505 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 4: Was trying to give her a flavor of the show 506 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 4: BECAUSE i was Telling hanson because he said she wasn't 507 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: really ready to go on the dissent, thing AND. 508 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: I, said, well you got to let her. Know we're 509 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: the kind of. 510 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 4: Shit we're not like shows where you need to come 511 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 4: off as an expert on everything all the. 512 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: Time you can SAY i don't, KNOW i haven't ready. 513 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: Yet it's say as long as hell And i'm skimming 514 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: it as fast AS i. 515 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: Can that's, fine, perfectly. Okay, YEAH i agree with her. 516 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: Though fancy restaurants where they do origami with the little takeout. 517 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: Tinfoil that's pro. 518 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: Classy, yeah, yeah, Yes, katie she just did exactly WHAT 519 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: aoc should have done the other. 520 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: Day, yes with that, Answer, yeah we need to think about. 521 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: It, yeah which is always okay OR i don't know 522 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: is a PERFECT i tell my kids this all the 523 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: time because SOMETIMES i feel like they got to come 524 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: up with an answer and it's. 525 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: Pretty clear that they just made it. Up YEAH i don't. 526 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: Know all right here in this, circumstance you can just 527 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: SAY i don't. 528 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: Know, yeah maybe chet cheapt could keep that in mind as. Well, 529 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: yeah really. Nice, WOW i tell you. What The Pacific 530 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Legal foundation coming through with some great great. Guests appreciate 531 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: that and well. Done love those. PEOPLE a word from 532 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: our friends it's Simply. Safe home security another aspect of the, 533 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: law criminal. LAW a lot of places are turning their 534 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: criminals back onto the streets over and over, again and 535 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: they rob your house and steal your stuff and maybe 536 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: beat you over the. 537 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: Head you don't want. That you want Simply safe. 538 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: Instead, yes in the case of bad guy versus, house 539 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 4: the ruling is against the bad guy in towards the. 540 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: House if you got this active guard outdoor protection going 541 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 4: on from Simply safe BECAUSE i can see the bad 542 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 4: guys before they break, in which is super super, cool 543 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: and with no long term, contracts no cancelation, fees and 544 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: this whole thing costs about a dollar a. 545 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: Day why wouldn't you want to try Simply. 546 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Safe it's about preventing break ins before they. Happen it's 547 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: really amazing. Technology it's so, Good so why it's so? 548 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: Popular why? Wait protect your? Home? Today you can enjoy 549 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: fifty percent off a new Simply safe system with a 550 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: professional monitoring, plan which again is around a buck at. 551 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: Day that's much less than the crappy old. Systems, wow 552 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: this is better in every. Way simplysafe dot com slash. 553 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: Armstrong simply safe Dot com Slash armstrong there's no safe 554 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: like simply. 555 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: Safe, YEAH i might do. 556 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: A figure out what's best biography On Justice marshall and read. 557 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: It that'd be a good thing to. Read maybe that 558 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: would be my next. Nonfiction that would be a good. 559 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: One might thank me a. 560 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: Little less, dumb which is What i'm going. 561 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: For, YEAH i don't want to depress, anybody but a 562 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: lout of the influencers of The founding, generation be They 563 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: marshall Or washington or handful of, others they were all about. 564 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: PRINCIPLE i, mean they were some of the most principled 565 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: men who've ever walked the. Earth AND i tell you, 566 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: what you give away your principles to gain momentary advantage 567 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: at your own peril and your soul's. 568 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: Peril your. Soul Mike pence is very happy with the. 569 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: Ruling trump's former vice, president said it's a victory for 570 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: The american people and a win for the separation of 571 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: powers enshrined in The. Constitution he's strongly against the dissenting 572 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: opinion Of, Kavanaugh alito And, thomas says they're feet in 573 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: contentious tariff decision is a victory now, Again joe will do. 574 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: THIS i won't do it BECAUSE i got you, Know i'm. 575 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: Busy, uh we'll figure out what Did how Did Justice 576 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: thomas twist his mind into thinking the president should be 577 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: able to do this and fit it into? 578 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Conservatism Yeah, Thomas, yeah it's It's alito And Kevin all 579 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: that bothered me. 580 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: More But i've got to read about. IT i don't. 581 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: Care, yeah restraint of executive, power separation of powers fellas. 582 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 4: Well we'll be at war With iran here pretty, quick 583 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: so all this will be forgotten. 584 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: Among other things we need to talk. About stay. Here 585 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: this is the greatest COMEBACK i have ever. Seen the 586 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: twenty year old trumb Oldlynn Alyssa, luke a script that 587 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: would have been rejected as far FEXED. 588 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: A lissa is The joe get the medalist happy a little. 589 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 4: BIT i just watched her four minute routine at the 590 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 4: suggestion of someone. Man she. 591 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Skated with Joy. Joe she was just. 592 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: Happy and having a good, time the exact opposite Of Quad, 593 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 4: god who felt all the pressure over the world on 594 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: him and looked. 595 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: Miserable she's just like having. 596 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: A good time and the crowd is going, wild and 597 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 4: she's pumping her fists and spinning around. 598 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: And win's the gold. Medal so many great subplots to. 599 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: This number. 600 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: One she was burned out and chewed up by figure 601 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: skating and all the pressure and quit when she was, 602 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: sixteen then came back at eighteen and, said all, RIGHT 603 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: i love. Skating i'm gonna do, it BUT i call 604 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: all the shots at age. EIGHTEEN i choose my, COACHES 605 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: i choose WHAT i, wear the, music HOW i. Train 606 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: i'm doing. It and interestingly she came back with her 607 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: striped hair and piercings and stuff like. That that's extra 608 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: interesting BECAUSE i just read her fascinating piece about transgenderism 609 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: and murderous transgenderism at all as a rejection of their 610 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: prior self and a rejection of. Society and, well maybe 611 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: we'll get into that in a. Podcast it's it's. Meaty 612 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: but she clearly Said i'm not that little girl. Anymore i'm. 613 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: Me i'm a different, person and wanted to manifest that 614 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: outwardly in the way a lot of young people. Do 615 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: second subplot, This this is the granddaddy of. Subplots both 616 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: her dad AND I Lean, goo the Traitorist kami loving 617 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: skier were approached by The chinese as part of that 618 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: same program. Too let's recruit Some Chinese americans who will 619 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: opt For china so we can use them as propaganda, 620 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: tools saying our system is. BETTER i Lean goo's, parent 621 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: and her she, Said, greg give me THAT commi. MONEY 622 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: i lean Alisso lou rather and her dad said f 623 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: OFF commi. Dogs so we, say Woo loo Boo. Goo 624 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: i'm gonna get that tattoo, TODAY A woo loo Tattoo 625 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: woo loo. Boogoo, yeah, exactly with pictures of them, both 626 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: but With lou looking like an angel And goo looking. 627 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: Like an evil communist. DEVIL i can't. Wait Woo loo 628 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: boo goo? Tattoo you do? YOU i? 629 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: Say, well said second or third or fifth subplot Of Lost. 630 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: Track her, dad who was a bit of a tiger 631 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: dad and was definitely part of, her although he was 632 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: A tianman square escapee slash, survivor and said f off 633 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: to The. 634 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: Commis and good for him if the story is. 635 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: Accurate he's one of Those chinese fellas that HAS i 636 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: think four kids all by. Surrogates hmm, yeah bred himself 637 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: a family children to turn into. Champions so that's, interesting 638 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: but good for, Her good for, her she did it 639 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: on her. Terms she's having. Fun, yeah and she kicked. 640 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: Ass How american is? 641 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: That no? 642 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 4: REGIRTS i love, that love that plan of HE i 643 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: wish that would be contrasted. MORE i mean the fact 644 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: that she grew up In oakland And google up just 645 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: across the water In San, francisco and they took such 646 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: different paths in terms of Embracing communism for cash or 647 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 4: embracing your own, country which is the hope of the. 648 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: Earth is a pretty good. 649 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: Storyline, YEAH i would say completely not just ignored by 650 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: the utterly disgusting mainstream, media but in fact they've gone 651 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: the other. Direction they've just given a woo. Doo i'm, 652 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: SORRY I Needa, jonastown get back before your, tattoo get 653 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: it straightened. Out, yeah that's. True you'd hate to end 654 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: up with a boo loo goo woo. Shot it's a, 655 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: tattoo right, Anyway they practically Give goo a tongue path 656 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: when they do interviews with Or it's. 657 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 2: Terrible of. 658 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: COURSE i had the giant quad god tattoo across my 659 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 4: entire back That i'm getting removed, now and. 660 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: It Is Ilium mallon and wearing the gold medal since he, 661 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: fell And i'm getting it removed and it's very. 662 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: Painful BUT i. CAN'T i just can't have that at 663 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: BE i told, you, wait you wouldn't. Listen there's no 664 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: need to. Wait he's gonna win the gold. Medal everybody knows. 665 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: It he can't. 666 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 4: Lose so Now i'm faced with being at the beach 667 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 4: this summer with this ridiculous quad god gold medal. 668 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: Tattoo and, meanwhile not only are we on the brink 669 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: of war With, iran we're block Hating. 670 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: Cuba they are like out of fuel and. 671 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: Food this is, controversial but it'd be great to get 672 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: the commi devils out of a big old island right 673 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: off our. Shore we can't have MALIGN i meanest regimes 674 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: menacing us in our own. 675 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: BACKYARD i love. It how about? That how about? 676 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: That it could be a pretty newsy. Weekend then we 677 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: will be following up On. MONDAY i don't know when 678 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 4: we're actually going to war with The ray And trump 679 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 4: said give him ten to fifteen. DAYS i like when 680 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 4: he gives these vague deadlines ten to fifteen. 681 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: Days, no then maybe he hit them two days. 682 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: Later, yeah, yeah. Maybe if you missed the, segment get 683 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 4: the Podcast armstrong And getty on. 684 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 2: Demand armstrong And getty