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Speaker 2: Proud from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am Dan Hansson. Here are the members of the

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Speaker 2: Falcons gas up. I like that Greg Rosethal and Mark Sessa.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's time to start thinking about putting

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Speaker 4: Well the Falcons and rings, that's probably never gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: So the thing that I enjoy about this scenario and

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Speaker 5: what Zumwalt just announced there is that before the show

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Speaker 5: with you know, a lot of time to chat lot time,

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Speaker 5: you are genuinely, like, genuinely slightly annoyed at Greg and

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Speaker 5: I for this whole Falcons thing. I'm You've you' it's

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Speaker 5: not a bit, it's a real thing. You see him

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Speaker 5: a little. You seem a little agitated with the fact

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Speaker 5: that we're unified on this front.

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Speaker 2: In general, you guys, being unified is always a little

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Speaker 2: off putting to me, just because it doesn't feel authentic

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Speaker 3: But I think, what is that even us mean, we

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Speaker 3: just both happen don't like the Falcons? How is that

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Speaker 3: not authentic?

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Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with you guys liking the Falcons. I

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Speaker 2: just don't want you guys to like in October, if

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Speaker 2: your precious little quarterback is still thrown for one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fourteen yards a game, don't tell me how fun

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Speaker 2: they are. Okay, Like, can we at least have an

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Speaker 2: honest dialogue about whether the Falcons are fun? And I'll

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Speaker 5: Right, we're grounded in reality, though I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: And I just also to make this clear, I'm not

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Speaker 4: Just if they're fun, let's do it. Let's make it

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Speaker 3: I'm open to it.

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Speaker 4: You got to earn those stripes, Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's not about based on a summer of promise and

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Speaker 4: You know, all right, we'll see that part of it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that Arthur Smith is some NEPO baby

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Speaker 4: I didn't say it. You connected those dots. I didn't

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Speaker 5: You brought up you brought up the the FedEx thing

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Speaker 3: love you. Great, great start to the season, team of ATLU.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, that's the great Dick Banks, the one man

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Speaker 5: Matching news show. By the way, we were never invited

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Speaker 2: It's a Thursday show. It's week two in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: If you if you caught the Wednesday show. Did you

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Speaker 4: You were drunk?

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Speaker 4: Confirming our suspicions.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: But no, I did not listen to a second of it.

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Speaker 4: Give him a round of applause, keeping us healthy long season.

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Speaker 2: But you should know that Thursday we preview the Thursday

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Speaker 2: night game, which, by the way, we will be covering

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Speaker 2: the recap of Vikings Eagles tonight.

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Speaker 2: And we also previewed Sunday night football Dolphins Pats and

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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna hit all the other games, all the

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Speaker 2: non primetime games, and we do it draft style, and

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Speaker 2: we have our locks of the week. Greg, congratulations, You've

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Speaker 2: own it. We've had success and you never cease to

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Speaker 2: remind us of it. You're now again ahead of me.

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Speaker 2: Mark and the westling Zoo. We all lost and you

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Speaker 2: locked up effectively in week one. So big week for Mark.

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Speaker 2: Another thing you should know Mark, is we set the

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Speaker 5: All right, what was the Vegas scenario there? That seems

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Speaker 4: Was according to Draft Kings, they were six point favorites.

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Speaker 4: Courageous the mirror.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna do it. I had a different one,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get let's go. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the first overall pick. Look at this

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Speaker 2: the aformentioned Draft Kings, and it is the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: And if you get Kelsey back in the lineup, Greg

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be okay. But this is I'm fascinated

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Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are gonna take care of business

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Speaker 3: Jacks fans who want to see this team as one

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen, look at you with all your disclaims.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just the wide receiver that struggled. It was

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Speaker 2: He's a great player and he's just starting to scratch

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm not doing this to annoy you particularly,

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Speaker 3: I had a feeling I was circling this one.

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Speaker 2: I already had you already had Mark's name next to him.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a reach too, because no it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's good fun teams, two teams I would have one

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Speaker 5: fun I would have avoided entirely a year ago. They're

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Speaker 5: to your point, Dan, you're a suspicion about Desmond Ritter. He

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Speaker 3: It's seven points where I don't know if anyone in

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Speaker 5: I think I think we're gonna see more of that.

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Speaker 5: I love saying these guys. I'd run the ball thirty

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Speaker 5: It's like this is a better test because the Falcons

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Speaker 5: They had a nice they were better.

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Speaker 3: They had a nice week last week. On your model

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Speaker 3: want to have another point of order. I keep doing this. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So Cynthia Freelan heard I hope him not speaking out

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Speaker 6: And he did.

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Speaker 3: No one saying that it's It's been Bejon everywhere in

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Speaker 5: The player himself did the thing where he maybe it's

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'm not ready yet. Yeah, but good to know

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Speaker 3: I'm curious. Is this Packers even actually gonna be different

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Speaker 2: Here's the quote, by the way from Falcons RB Robinson

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Speaker 4: So we're not wrong then it's almost a little snooty

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Speaker 4: and like, look how smart. Well, I didn't even know

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't know about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is some hard hitting googling from

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Speaker 5: Falcon's getting a point by the way in.

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Speaker 3: This that's it, Huh. I like the tight I like

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Speaker 3: the Falcons here to win this game. I do why

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Speaker 4: Knows what I did there?

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Speaker 3: I know what Oh, I do know what you did.

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Speaker 5: That was being a good little boy.

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Speaker 5: The Packers are banged up too, because we've got Christian

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Speaker 2: What a great football, great football team? What we were

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Speaker 4: So all right, here we go. I said it.

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Speaker 5: Then we did do such a good job.

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Speaker 5: So much inside baseball.

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Speaker 3: A bluecasts starting right tackle for the Seahawks. Injured reserve

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Speaker 4: Way, Jason Peters, don't.

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Speaker 3: Don't start that five year clock to start talking about

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Speaker 3: have one guy who's got maybe the best line in

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Speaker 3: the league, and it makes a big difference that that

441
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 3: Vitie is back. I really believe that he can be

442
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 3: an elite player. Dan Campbell pointed it out they never

443
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 3: had their whole line last year in Detroit compared to Seattle.

444
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna have one quarterback really under pressure,

445
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 3: and I think you're gonna have one Jared Goff just

446
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,879
Speaker 3: sitting back there picking out, uh, those middle of the

447
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 3: field passes, Like every good Jared Goff pass kind of

448
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 3: looks the same, but it always looks good. It's like

449
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 3: seventeen yards across the middle. Let's go, well, he's so

450
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 3: he's totally well.

451
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Speaker 5: I love the way the Lions are built because, like

452
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 5: their offensive line won that game for them down the

453
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Speaker 5: stretch against the Chiefs, like they are dominant, they tire

454
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Speaker 5: teams out. You're gonna see more of Jamiir Gibbs. I

455
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 5: think they they're just kind of built to do this.

456
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 5: Their defensive line, their pass rush is so much better

457
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 5: than it was a couple of years ago. And it's like,

458
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 5: I don't love the common nation of Seattle's banged up

459
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 5: line and Detroit essentially going after Gino Smith from the

460
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 5: start because him under pressure is a different type of quarterback,

461
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 5: Like they got eaten up by the Rams last week.

462
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Speaker 5: On both sides. It's like that has to be the

463
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Speaker 5: most disappointing performance that came out of nowhere. I mean,

464
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Speaker 5: we were expecting it to go be a forty to

465
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Speaker 5: seven blowout in terms of Seattle with their best wide

466
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Speaker 5: receiver corps in the league, and it's like, Nope, none

467
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 5: of it showed up.

468
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Speaker 2: I like this matchup because this is these are two

469
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Speaker 2: teams that are near the top of the list, or

470
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Speaker 2: I just kind of want to learn a little bit

471
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Speaker 2: more about Sure, because the Lions. And this is no

472
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: disrespect to Lions fans out there, I know that the

473
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Speaker 2: narrative around that game was look at the big Lions.

474
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Speaker 4: They have arrived, They've now.

475
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: Beaten the Chiefs on the road, and I watched the

476
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Speaker 2: game and then I rewatched it uncondensed, and I'm saying

477
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Speaker 2: they did play a really gutty and they got the win.

478
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Speaker 2: I thought they were very fortunate in many ways to

479
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: get that victory, which is not taking away, but it's

480
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Speaker 2: also I'm not ready to say that.

481
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Speaker 3: You're mad about the lock. Just admit it. No locked

482
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Speaker 3: up against team of acl in your minds are saying

483
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Speaker 3: if you.

484
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Speaker 5: Take away Kansas City that, yeah, change is changed.

485
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Speaker 3: Ye, I like.

486
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Speaker 2: Sneaky don't care that much about locks. I think I

487
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: think you care a lot about them. It's like it's over.

488
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: I really think that the Lions are a very compelling,

489
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: interesting team. But it's not like beating the Chiefs and

490
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Speaker 2: Arrowhead in Week one made me think, Okay, now this

491
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Speaker 2: is a superpower. Now it's time to look at the

492
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Speaker 2: Lions differently. I'm not there yet.

493
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Speaker 4: Now.

494
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Speaker 2: Spank Seattle, coming off a really ugly Week one loss.

495
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Speaker 4: Would would tell me two things.

496
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Speaker 2: One, Okay, it's time to give the Lions a little

497
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Speaker 2: more flowers because they're two and zero. And now, going

498
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: back to last year, I think ten of twelve if

499
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Speaker 2: they went and Seattle. You start to really start to

500
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Speaker 2: ask questions Greg about Seattle and whether they're even any

501
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Speaker 2: good after this offseason of hyping them up. Week four,

502
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, A little change of subject here.

503
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Speaker 4: Forty eight forty five.

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really gu Gino's greatest.

505
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Speaker 4: Game of his life. He completed seventy seven percent of

506
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Speaker 4: his passes, He threw for three hundred and seventy yards,

507
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: three touchdowns. Passer rating won thirty two point six. Beautiful.

508
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Speaker 4: Do we get another shootout? I don't know about that.

509
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Speaker 4: I don't think forty eight forty five.

510
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Speaker 5: The Lion's defense is transformed from that, Yes, that situation.

511
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Speaker 5: Their secondary I thought right away looked so much better.

512
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Speaker 5: Brian Branch, I mean, I think Jack Hampbell made some

513
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 5: plays last week. They've added pad deuce. He just shows

514
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 5: up and makes plays wherever he goes. I actually am

515
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 5: a little more concerned about the Lions offense this year.

516
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 5: They only scored fourteen points in that game. Then the

517
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 5: defense right now, they're just so deep. I know that's

518
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 5: not superstars, but who made all the big plays last week?

519
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 5: Josh Pascal made that play.

520
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Speaker 3: Second year player Charles Harris got the big holding call

521
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Speaker 3: in the last rain. They're just deep everywhere and I

522
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: think they can win multiple kinds of ways. The Seahawks.

523
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Speaker 3: When was the last defense Pete Carroll had? And he

524
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: skated a little bit on this last year, but when

525
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Speaker 3: was the last defense that was above average in Seattle?

526
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Speaker 3: I'll give you the answer. It was twenty seventeen. It

527
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: was a while ago for a defensive coach.

528
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Speaker 4: That the earl Thomas middle Finger year.

529
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Speaker 3: I don't even know, but I just searched for like

530
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Speaker 3: dv Away whatever or even above average. It's been like

531
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Speaker 3: six years.

532
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Speaker 5: They've drafted well though. I think there's there's a lot

533
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Speaker 5: of you like youth on this defense. They just were

534
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Speaker 5: totally out coached a week ago.

535
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Speaker 3: I think we'll see more Gibbs. As you mentioned, six

536
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: missed tackles forced in seven attempts.

537
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Speaker 4: This is outrage. Yeah, give him the rock.

538
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Speaker 2: I want to see Gibbs and Bijon Bajan touch this

539
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 2: ball twenty times in week two. Take off the training wheels,

540
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Speaker 2: let them leave fair request. I know this has come

541
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Speaker 2: up around the Lions, but my last point amount them

542
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Speaker 2: Jared Goff. I know he's not gonna win MVP or

543
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Speaker 2: anything like that or go to the Hall of Fame,

544
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Speaker 2: but very quietly since Week nine last year, hasn't since

545
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Speaker 2: Week ten last year, eight and two the Lions, he

546
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 2: hasn't even thrown an interception. Sixteen touchdowns, zero picks. If

547
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Speaker 2: you protect Jared Goff, he will do work. He's going

548
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: to protect Jared Goff.

549
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Speaker 5: He's in that world where he could break the NFL record.

550
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Speaker 3: For especially this week. The Stamps had no pass rush

551
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: against the Rams, and that's something they're concerned about. All Right,

552
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: I got the fourth overall pick, and I don't like

553
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: these late games, so I'm just gonna take the one

554
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: that I want the most because there's four of us shook.

555
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: He's going to be helping out here, and I'm gonna

556
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: lock up my late game. And it's gonna be forty

557
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: nine Ers Rams, And yeah, this is a big spread.

558
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Speaker 3: It's seven and a half for the forty nine Ers.

559
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Speaker 3: I think it was nine earlier in the week, so

560
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Speaker 3: some respect here for the Rams. It's a Week two

561
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Speaker 3: matchup that if the Rams do get blown out, I'm

562
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: not giving up on their journey this season because this

563
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: matchup has been so poor for Sean McVay, even in

564
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: the best of times. But if they cover that spread,

565
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Speaker 3: if they make this a game, if they make it physical,

566
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Speaker 3: and I think that's what mcvay's whole plan was this year,

567
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Speaker 3: and Jordan Roderick's done a great job writing about it,

568
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Speaker 3: especially on offense, where they're gonna do these long drives

569
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 3: and eighty one plays a week ago. It's gotta be

570
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: tough to do against the forty nine ers. But if

571
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: they can just be physical on both sides, especially on offense,

572
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 3: and make this a game and that it's it's just compelling,

573
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 3: and Stafford's throwing some passes, then I think they really

574
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: might have something. I'm worried about their defense being a

575
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: little soft on the edge here, going up against this

576
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: zone blocking, running game, and so I don't know if

577
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: they can hang with him for four quarters. But you

578
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: got my attention, Rams, Like, I'm interested. You got my

579
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: daughter happy, you got my wife happy.

580
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: Let's go checking a lot of boxes.

581
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Speaker 3: It's just saying it makes me happy.

582
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Speaker 4: Honestly, this has and that's good, that's important. But this

583
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: does have all the makings of them come back to

584
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 4: Earth game for the Rams. To me, it does like

585
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 4: we have go six under.

586
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about Los Angeles and they're kind of

587
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: rebuilding their defense on a fly, and obviously a great

588
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: start against the Seahawks. But it's hard to tell Week ones,

589
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: A liar, this is a whole other type of test.

590
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: Now.

591
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: I know you're in your backyard here across the sidewalk,

592
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: but the forty nine ers are going to be coming

593
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: at this young team in waves, and they're gonna be

594
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: schemed up in an elite way by Kyle Shanahan. And

595
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: it would not surprise me if shannan has this young

596
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: defense's head spinning by the second quarter. I kind of

597
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: see it that way. Stafford obviously played brilliantly there. You

598
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: can make an argument that he was the best quarterback

599
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: in the league in Week one. Could he do that again?

600
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Speaker 4: Maybe?

601
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 3: What about the fact that it's Coogler and Sanchez? I

602
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: just love that. Maybe this is mister NFC West. Now,

603
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: it's like a kind of a frisky NFC West game.

604
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Speaker 4: It's sick California. Guy doesn't have to go far it

605
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to leave. Yeah, it's no Sea kid.

606
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 5: I think I'm I'm with you, Dan, Like Sean McVay

607
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 5: showed how much of a difference he can make a

608
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: week ago and uh, the Seattle is a good team.

609
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 5: I still think we're gonna find out they are. So

610
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 5: that was a legitimate victory. But the Niners, I mean

611
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 5: talk about hitting the ground running and it's like.

612
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: Oh, you look good.

613
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 5: If you're no, I'm Joe Burrow. It's like, obviously he's

614
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 5: rusty because he didn't do X Y and Z in

615
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: the preseason. It's like, what did rock Perdy do? Rock

616
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: Perty shows up in Week one and he's like lights

617
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 5: out and exactly the guy he was a year ago,

618
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 5: totally efficient. I don't like that to me, Like, that's

619
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 5: gonna come with the territory a little bit. Brock Perty

620
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 5: as as like in terms of like where's the fall off?

621
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Speaker 5: It just wasn't there. And like Brandon Ayuk, you suddenly

622
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 5: have another superstar on this team. There's too many ways

623
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 5: to inflict damage.

624
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: What do you mean we'll see I've seen he looks.

625
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: He looks. It's been a year and a half of this.

626
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: He outgained Deebo Samuel for the second half of twenty

627
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: tell me of last year.

628
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 4: We're getting excited about it. Ayuk is not a superstar.

629
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Speaker 5: Lang Okay, Well, he is knocking on that door. But

630
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 5: now it being the way.

631
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Speaker 3: He was in Week one, he's so physical and he

632
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: can be do the subtle stuff. He's a little more

633
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: complete than Deebo. I think they're one in one A.

634
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Speaker 2: I love Auk, but we did the Superstar Club in

635
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: July and nobody said anything when I didn't have that's

636
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: but he needs I guess what I'm saying is he

637
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: needs to put it together for a long stretch and

638
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: remove that inconsistency from his game. And when I said

639
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: after watching the game last Sunday, is if he does that,

640
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: this becomes unfair because Deebo is gonna get his and

641
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: McCaffrey stays healthy, he's gonna eat you got George Kittle.

642
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: It's an embarrassment of riches for this young quarterback.

643
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: And I think it's like then that you get to

644
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 5: overlook their defense, which Steve Wilkes came in right away

645
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 5: and like there's no there's no problem there at all.

646
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 5: He's he's already a great coordinator. The Rams last week,

647
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 5: I know they I like that they refuse to stop

648
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 5: running the ball, but they ran for two point three

649
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: yards for Carrie. It's like, I just think if you,

650
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 5: this is gonna be a different situation for Matthew Stafford

651
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: and he's gonna be put into something and then it

652
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: will matter that you don't have Cooper Cup at some

653
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 5: point here.

654
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Kyraen Williams. He's like stealing cam Akers

655
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: sunshine and his draft picks and his snaps. He played

656
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Speaker 3: quite quite a bit more.

657
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

658
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one superstar like we haven't brought up for

659
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: the Fortnite I guess a couple is Bosa, but also

660
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: Fred Warner. And that's where Stafford won last week, deepen

661
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: over the middle, beating the Seahawks linebackers. You're not going

662
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: to be able to do that to Pookin Akua and

663
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: to well nearly as well against Fred Warner.

664
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what were your vibes because obviously one of the

665
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: most talked about names in the league and a lot

666
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: of ties into the immense popularity of fantasy football. But

667
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Pooka and Akua, is that is that a type of

668
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: performance that's signifying that they have a real player there?

669
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, I think so. I Mean he

670
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: might not be Cooper Cup, but he could be like

671
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: a really solid number two that.

672
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: Changes a lot. It does Cup can come back healthy.

673
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: If Cup. I'm worried about Cup in general. When when

674
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: you hear things like flying to Minnesota to see a

675
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: specialist about the hamstring and you've already aggravated it once,

676
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm you start getting nervous about what's going to happen

677
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: with that. But if he can come back healthy and

678
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: they can establish for a poor here with Nikua, Okay.

679
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: They trust they're cooking. He's smart, tough, physical.

680
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. Let's take a break,

681
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: and when we get back we continue with the draft.

682
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: All right, we are back. The draft rolls on, Mark Cecil,

683
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: your second pick, all.

684
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: Right, I'm gonna take the Chargers visiting Tennessee. Tennessee gets

685
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 5: three points, uh that, which kind of surprises me. I

686
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 5: I don't see these as equal teams, although I think

687
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 5: the Titans and Greg you Bert, you've been talking about.

688
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: This, they're home there. That's I'm going off of.

689
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 5: I'm going off of what I saw from Ryan Tannehill

690
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 5: a week ago. And now the Chargers, by the way,

691
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 5: like Brandon Staley at some point, he's not he's here.

692
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: Well that he was saying the way Mark's saying that,

693
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: it's like he gone.

694
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 5: I have been a Tannehill like fan for a long time,

695
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: and like Tanna Shill, sure she'll no, Tanna Stan Maybe

696
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: Tanner girl, Tanna girl. I like that that fits what

697
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 5: a disaster last week? Like, if that's what you're gonna get,

698
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: why are you how are they favored at all? How

699
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 5: they getting like like anything more than three points?

700
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, you wanted the Charges to be even bigger,

701
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: absolut Chargers.

702
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 5: No, but it's like there their offense. To me, I

703
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 5: this is an interesting matchup because I still think the

704
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 5: Titans are one of the best runs stopping teams in

705
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 5: the league, and this is a completely different Chargers offense

706
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 5: than what we've seen in the past. And they want

707
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: to they want to run the ball all day long.

708
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: And like Austin Ekeler did not practice Wednesdays.

709
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: No, he had was agent died, so but he's going

710
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: to be back with the team Thursday, but it was

711
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: unclear as we're taping whether he'll be able to practice,

712
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: so he is. He is dealing with an injury as well.

713
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tend to think he'd play, but Josh Kelly

714
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: looked like great too, and so I just think that

715
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: this this ground game gives me a lot of hope

716
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: for the fact that not everything has to fall on

717
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: the shoulders of Justin Herbert. I think that's healthy. I

718
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 5: just think this like a year ago, him having to

719
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 5: play hurt the whole time he did, he still made

720
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: some just absolutely like Herbert ish incredible throws last week.

721
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 5: They can do it all, but I like to see

722
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 5: I think this is a chance for the defense, even

723
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: if it's a bit of a mirage because of what

724
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 5: the Titans offense is, which is scarily like unimpressive. But

725
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: it's a get right game. If you're branding stilly because

726
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: I think you're on You're not on a hot seat,

727
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 5: but it's like I think it's like you were in

728
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: year three. Your calling card is dominating defense, and their

729
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: defense continually is a problem.

730
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: I got too much respect for the Titans to call

731
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: them a get right game against anyone. I mean, if

732
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: if Ryan Tanneil could hit the broad side of a

733
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: barn and they would be coming off a pretty weak one.

734
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: When to me, it's a great test. And one of

735
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: my preseason takes is gonna be looking bad because I

736
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: was high on both these teams. One of them is

737
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: gonna be going to It's a great test though for Staley.

738
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: It's like to me, it's like soft versus Like the

739
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: Chargers are kind of a soft team. You think about

740
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: them that way. Defensively certainly, okay, I mean, and they

741
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: haven't been able to run the ball well on offense

742
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 3: now have but this is like soft versus hard. I mean,

743
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: the Titans are hard. You know they're gonna they're gonna

744
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: stop you on the ground. Dan's making a faith. They

745
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: can't listen to this in the car when their dad

746
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: or mom or you're you're the weird one. You're the

747
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: weird one, Denktri arden Key, Jeffrey Simmons. If you can

748
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: run against this team, you can protect against this team

749
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: and play well offensively, That'll say That'll say a.

750
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Lot to me, Like I know you and and other

751
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: people on Twitter pumping up the Chargers again this summer.

752
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: But I think they're in a bad spot.

753
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: I think they I think this game is I think

754
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm worried.

755
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: They got their ass beat in Week one.

756
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: It was a two point game that they came up,

757
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: but they got beat.

758
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: And I know Herbert didn't play poorly, in fact, he

759
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: played well, but the best quarterback in that game was Tua.

760
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: And I don't know what makes Herbert's heart beat. I

761
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: don't know what pumps him up.

762
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's one of those guys that

763
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 2: rises to the challenge and gets pissed off.

764
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: I kind of want him to be that guy. I

765
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: think that's sometimes the missing piece with Herbert.

766
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: Is he like a monster? Is he a monster inside?

767
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Is he a competitor that says, you know what? Tua

768
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: just upstays me in my house in week one and

769
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: now I'm.

770
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: Gonna have it?

771
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: Five times he responded, yes.

772
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: Not anything in his career yet bag hold does not

773
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: act like he's done anything in his career yet, well

774
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: hold on.

775
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 5: I think like it's easy to forget that he didn't

776
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 5: say a single word.

777
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 4: I'm so sick of everybody putting justin Herbert in the

778
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame.

779
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, putting him in the hall like

780
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: he's above reproach to even challenge him, like he's never

781
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: won a playoff game.

782
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: Everybody plays hurt.

783
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: If winning playoffs.

784
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 4: Some of the genuflecting at Herbert is on my radar.

785
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: And and now I want him to this is what

786
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: I want from him, go kick the hell out of

787
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: the Titans because you're mad about what happened last week.

788
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be easy.

789
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: And the reason I think this is a tough spot

790
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: is because I think Vrabel and the Titans, and I

791
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: don't think Tannehill is a bad player at this stage.

792
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be mad as well, and I

793
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: know he's a competitor and he's gonna be looking to

794
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: play better. This is gonna show me something if Herbert

795
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: and the Charges going there and take care of.

796
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: I hear they're supposed to think that's ridiculous about Herbert when.

797
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 4: I know it is because you're not allowed to say

798
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: that about it.

799
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: When he's playing through that injury that he did a

800
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: year ago and making the comeback place respect that that

801
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: Week eighteen game against the Raiders where he played as

802
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: well as humanly possible, and like multiple things can be true.

803
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: You can lose games where you play absolutely outstanding and

804
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 3: play your hearts out and play with the most guts possible.

805
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: If playoff wins was a great measurement in your first

806
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: three or four seasons of like how great a quarterback

807
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: like Peyton Manning was a total loser, you know what

808
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, and we've seen that again and again,

809
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: and I think last week was a great example. He

810
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: gets any stops from his defense. Like you're talking about

811
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: what a great offensive performance.

812
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: Everything you said is right, and Manning did nothing as

813
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: a in terms of playoff success until almost the second

814
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: decade in the league. But I'm just saying, sometimes it

815
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: feels like we're not allowed to say bad things about

816
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: all right, And I.

817
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 5: Know you feel that way about Lamar Jackson and a

818
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 5: couple other guys too, And I get there's maybe some

819
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 5: exhaustion on your part, but nothing that Justin Herbert has

820
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: done on the field.

821
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 4: Like so I'm saying I'm spinning forward here. I'm saying, but.

822
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 5: Who's let's plain I think they will. First of all,

823
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 5: what's the strength I think outside of Justin Herbert, And

824
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 5: it's their offensive line. I know they fell apart and

825
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 5: against the pass rush like at the end of that

826
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 5: Dolphins game, but they can they this is an offensive

827
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: line that can neutralize the Titans. And I think in general,

828
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: like the Titans are not gonna be able to get

829
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 5: not gonna be able to get to Justin Herbert the

830
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 5: same way. I just I believe that her I think this, like, yeah, yeah,

831
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: but they're they actually are a good run game run team.

832
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 5: It's like, I think the balance of this team is

833
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 5: gonna take care of Tennessee. And like the Titans offense

834
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 5: and the Titans offensive line, You're not gonna have Joey

835
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: Bosa go totally silent like you did a week ago.

836
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: I just had practice though, but once again, Joey Bo's

837
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: out of practice.

838
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 5: I am kind of a little annoyed with the lack

839
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: of faith in the Chargers off again, Joe, I am

840
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 5: absolutely locking up the Chargers and they're gonna They're gonna

841
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 5: do what you want. They're gonna do what you want

842
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: to do.

843
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I really enjoy Herbert as an immensely physically

844
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: gifted quarterback.

845
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 4: Do I do have some questions, just as someone who's

846
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: watched sports for a long.

847
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: Time, like the fire burn within, Like I guess you'd say,

848
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: like what he's done, and I I know stats are

849
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: in everything, but I do think like almost fifteen thousand

850
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: yards and ninety touchdowns in the first three seasons of

851
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: your NFL career is something like that's a big time.

852
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's not I don't see like a

853
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: hushed personality where he maybe doesn't care about football. I

854
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 5: kind of say it didn't care, I know, but I

855
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: sort of see. I do see a fire, and I

856
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: really think that last year, like what he went through,

857
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 5: and he just kind of refusing to give in or

858
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 5: give up or leave the game. It's like there that

859
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 5: tells me something. Though, there are a lot of players

860
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 5: not like that.

861
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: Five fourth quarter comebacks twenty twenty one, four fourth quarter

862
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: comebacks twenty twenty two. He's He's been putting some tough spots.

863
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm frustrated though. Certainly, if Brandon Staley's defense is as

864
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: bad as it looked, then it's just gonna be more

865
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: charges drama and Brandon Staley won't be back like no

866
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: matter what Herbert does, they got to have a much

867
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: better defense.

868
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 5: I put him in that most heated category of coaches

869
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 5: before the season, and I think they could play out good.

870
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: You know what, I want it?

871
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 5: I want it, you want I want you to get

872
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 5: your lock, okay, and.

873
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: I want Herbert to just ball out against and just

874
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: make Vabel like grovel in that postgame presser. I think

875
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: we're gonna just got beat by a great quarterback who

876
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: who was upset that the that Tua upstaged him in

877
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: his building and made the throws that I I didn't

878
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: down the stretch, And you know it's it was time

879
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 4: for me to drop a bomb on whoever I was

880
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: playing next, And that's what I did. That's what I

881
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: want Herbert to say.

882
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 5: That would be a typical of his personality.

883
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: I don't you know that that's asking too much? See,

884
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 4: but this isn't the game more fun to think about?

885
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Now?

886
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: Sure?

887
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 4: Even if you totally disagree with everything I just said.

888
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: Well, no, I watched like another like tension point between

889
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: like and I don't think he's going to try harder

890
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: this week because Tua played well. I think he's trying

891
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: his hardest.

892
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: See. That's the type of cold bloodless analysis that I'm not.

893
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, uh, you know, let's diffuse someone having

894
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: any passion in their takes by saying, oh, I guess

895
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna try hard.

896
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: I just disagreeing I think he is. Like, that's not

897
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm putting every I think he's putting

898
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: everything into his.

899
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: Perform says he will try just as hard.

900
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 5: I know you want to see some heats, so I

901
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 5: like it.

902
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: That was a fiery lock. Thank you Mark, Thank you Mark.

903
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: After our well, you're welcome somewhat cheepish locks.

904
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 4: All right, let's uh, let's move to Oh it's back

905
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: to me.

906
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: All right, let's head to jeral World and uh, I

907
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: know I kind of Here is where I'm at Jets

908
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: with Zach Wilson as the quarterback, going to Dallas to

909
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: face the Great Parsons, and it is.

910
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: The biggest spread of the week.

911
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: The Cowboys are laying nine and a half points here,

912
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: and it's it's just a reminder of what a bummer

913
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 2: of it. It is not just for sad sack Jets

914
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: fans like myself, but for everybody, cause this was gonna

915
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: be a fun Rogers and the Jets going to Dallas.

916
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: It's a bummer for Danson Romo. It's a bummer for

917
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: a killer.

918
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: It's a killer.

919
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: They actually made it so that this was the only

920
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: good afternoon game so that everyone would watch it.

921
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: We all get killed by it, and it's you know,

922
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: more personal to others. But yeah, it's a bummer. And

923
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: here here's here's the thing, because there is a there's

924
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: a sense here among the more optimistic of Jets fans

925
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: that there's still something here, there's still something to play for,

926
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: that the defense could be special in the running game,

927
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: what we saw from Breese Hall, they can move the

928
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: ball on the ground. And if you could just build

929
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: a team like that, kind of in a ground and

930
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: pound old school Rex way, and get the quarterback coached

931
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: up just so he doesn't kill you, maybe you could

932
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: still make noise in an AFC that maybe is more

933
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: wide open than we realize. And Okay, I get that.

934
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: All that said, I hate this matchup for the Jets.

935
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: I hate Zach Wilson. And I know there was some

936
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: criticism about how the play calling down the stretch where

937
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: the Jets were playing for three points. They wouldn't even

938
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: let Wilson throw, yes, and because Wilson has struggled so

939
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: much as a pro.

940
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 4: But also I think Wilson was getting killed in that game.

941
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: And that was a very difficult spot with everything that

942
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: happened in that game, with Aaron Rodgers coming on the

943
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: field the way he did, and everyone thinking, all right,

944
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: this is Rogers' team, and all of.

945
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 4: A sudden, you're in the game.

946
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: Here's the playbook, here's the biggest audience in the history

947
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: of Metlie said him in the biggest Monday night football

948
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: audience ever, saved the day and overall he didn't lose

949
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: the game. Okay, So will they open up the playbook

950
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: just a little bit, maybe, But here's the problem.

951
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys are going to eat him alive

952
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 4: in this game. Yeah.

953
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: And I just my feeling here is that as a

954
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 2: Jet fan, there's gonna be a lot of Jet fans

955
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: that have pumped themselves up thinking we're gonna get right

956
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: here and we're gonna stabilize things and be optimistic. But

957
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: I think this is a game we're gonna come out

958
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: of and feel like reality is set in and the

959
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: limits at quarterback are really going to be shown in

960
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 2: this game.

961
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 5: Why are we in this situation? I mean, the first

962
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: couple of plays right out of the game where Aaron

963
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 5: Rodgers injured because the offensive line looked totally incompetent, and

964
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 5: now you're going against a Cowboys team that absolutely dismantled

965
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: the Giants five force fumbles, two picks, seven sacks. Well, quarterback,

966
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 5: but even if you cut all those numbers in half,

967
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: you've still done a lot of work against the Giants

968
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: and I just don't like the matchups. Like to your point,

969
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: Dan of that line against one of the nastiest defenses

970
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 5: in the league and a quarterback that, like, I'm not

971
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: trying to jump on this. They should have gotten a

972
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: different backup. Maybe they should have, but he just looks.

973
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 5: He still just seems to me lost, and it's like,

974
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to be creative, resourceful and know exactly

975
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: what you're doing to have any sort of advantage over

976
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: the Dallas defense as a quarterback, and I just don't

977
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: see that player right now.

978
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the game was too fast for him and it

979
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: was a really tough spot, but we've seen players come

980
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: in off the bench and perform well a Brock Purty

981
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: type or whatever. Look things happen. I mean, Aaron Rodgers's

982
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: two snaps were disastrous. The game kind of came fast

983
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: at him and those plays just didn't work out. I'm

984
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: not really thinking the offense has much to do with

985
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: the Jets at this point. Like Brice Hall is a

986
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: special player, the fact that he can make cuts while

987
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: moving forward so fluidly and make a difference. And you

988
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: have Garrett Wilson, we know he's a special player. And

989
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: if you can just get enough to just be like

990
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: the twenty fourth offense in the league, then you just

991
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 3: need this defense to be next level special and make

992
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: these games fun. If you look at the season like

993
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: it's only gonna matter if you win a Super Bowl,

994
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah like that, then it doesn't matter for thirty one

995
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: teams every year. If it's just gonna be more about

996
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: the experience a long way and we could have some

997
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: fun along the way. I think they have a chance

998
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: to do that. I think they have a chance to

999
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: make the playoffs certainly, but their defense has to be

1000
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: special special. Sace Gartner's coming off a bad game for

1001
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: Sasgartner relatively. He had to go against Stefan Diggs, but

1002
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: we didn't see that happened to him last year too much.

1003
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: Now he has to go against Ceedee Lamb, who they'll

1004
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: move around a lot, And it's just like, can they

1005
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: just shut down the Cowboys offense who had a weird

1006
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 3: week one where they didn't really have to do anything.

1007
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: Can they just keep Dallas under twenty essentially because Dallas

1008
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: only at two hundred and sixty five yards last week.

1009
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: Dak was just throwing it within like two seconds. He

1010
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: didn't need to do anything. So can can they truly

1011
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: disrupt another team to the point where they're in every

1012
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: game because of that defense.

1013
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Allen and Dak Prescott are and a similar

1014
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: QB tier for me. Maybe Alan's a little bit ahead,

1015
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: but they're also what are the defects in their games?

1016
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 2: They will turn the ball over the Jets to hang

1017
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: in this game. What's what's the path to success? You

1018
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: turn Prescott over a couple of times, maybe you have

1019
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: another special teams play and you keep this a low

1020
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: scoring game, and maybe Breese Haall breaks one. You need

1021
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: this to be a low scoring affair, where again defense

1022
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: and special teams plays a major role. There is Listen,

1023
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: I am a realist. I understand I'm no longer rooting

1024
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: for a team that has serious Super Bowl aspirations, But

1025
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: I also think there is absolutely a path to this

1026
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: team contending. If the defense is as good as it

1027
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: has the potential to be, and if they hang in

1028
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: this game, and even if they don't win, but they hang,

1029
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: you're feeling really good about it. The only thing that

1030
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: you worry about is a bloodbath for Wilson, because then

1031
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: that's going to take a lot of air out of

1032
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: that locker room as well. And I think the biggest

1033
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: challenge Sala has right now you're floating off, there's a

1034
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: stomach punch of Rogers, and then you have this incredible

1035
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: comeback that shows how gutsy the team is. But if

1036
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: Wilson really snows under in this game killing reality, it's

1037
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: gonna set.

1038
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: The opposite of Jordan Love having these two like non

1039
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: pass rushing teams to have to play the Cowboys right

1040
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: off the bat, and then Belichick next week is just.

1041
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 5: Well, and he's and and you know, there's a realistic

1042
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: reality here that he is not a good player on

1043
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 5: any level. It's like, I think it's important he got

1044
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: that Garrett Wilson touchdown a week GOP because Garrett Wilson

1045
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 5: like is the guy that kind of embodies the fact

1046
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 5: that when Aaron Rodgers came, Garrett Wilson's like, my career

1047
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: is back on track. It's like Zach Wilson could lose

1048
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 5: the locker room quickly if everyone starts to become a

1049
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: non factor in the passing game like it happened a

1050
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: year ago. It's like, I do wonder if this Jets

1051
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 5: team because I think there is hope the defense is supreme,

1052
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: Like you've got stars at running back, a star wide receiver,

1053
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: like you've got good tight end play. Do you go

1054
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: and get a different quarterback?

1055
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 4: I know?

1056
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: But it's like I think it's like, if you're the Jets,

1057
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: the coddling of Zach Wilson is over. It's like it's

1058
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: saying it's his team and all this stuff?

1059
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: Is it not?

1060
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 5: If they get destroyed in.

1061
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: As It's tough because he might be the very two

1062
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: best defense in the league. If I mean, I throw

1063
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: the forty nine.

1064
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 5: But we have a larger sample size on Zach Wilson

1065
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: than this last week.

1066
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: In this don't do the thing that I saw for

1067
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: most of the Bills game where you won't even throw

1068
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: the ball three yards past Lina scratch.

1069
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: What do you have to lose?

1070
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just air it out, force the ball into Garret Willson.

1071
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: Let's just see maybe something crazy happens. How about check

1072
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: in from Eric Roberts, our producer in the Bills cap.

1073
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, we have somebody else who wants to weigh

1074
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 7: in on this.

1075
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: Jets Cowboys?

1076
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 7: Yere yes?

1077
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: What could that be?

1078
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 6: Hello, gentlemen? Oh, tough loss after week one? I don't

1079
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 6: know what I was thinking the picking the Chargers. Of

1080
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 6: course they're gonna go Charger in. That's okay. Right now,

1081
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 6: Greg's thinking, man, Nick, you can't lock this game up.

1082
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 6: It's it's Cowboys are nine point favorites. Well, I don't

1083
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 6: look at the Desert Test. I look at the mer test.

1084
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: I'm fine looking into the mirror. Right now, everybody's thinking,

1085
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones got beat down by the Cowboys. The Cowboys

1086
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 6: defense is unstoppable. Their offense is good enough. The Jets

1087
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: Aaron Aaron Rodgers. They're injured, they're battered. No way they

1088
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 6: show up and beat win in Dallas. I know there's

1089
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 6: a damn good team. This Jets team is good, real good. Hans,

1090
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 6: is this one's for you? The Jets go into Dallas

1091
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 6: handle business. I told you the Bills and the Chiefs

1092
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 6: weren't making the playoffs this year. Someone's got to go.

1093
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna be the Jets.

1094
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 6: They started out too and zero. Lock that up.

1095
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 5: Total. I'm a Cozi mission.

1096
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: There are boys in this world, and there are men.

1097
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: And there are psychotic men, or there are little bit

1098
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 5: like lost the first week and he's like, okay, now

1099
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna like not even seem like I'm trying.

1100
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: Come on, hey, if he gets this right, like, no

1101
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: one will ever forget it.

1102
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 4: That was great.

1103
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: Everyone check out the YouTube because Nick is looking good

1104
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: looking like a businessman.

1105
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 5: He is part you trust your business to someone who

1106
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 5: just locked the jets. I don't know about that.

1107
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: It shows a man that has a bold take on

1108
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: business affairs.

1109
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: To me, uh, it's gonna be remembered as maybe the

1110
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: best lock of all time.

1111
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: If that's so, that's you know what that is. That's

1112
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: called hanging onions. You could say it's crazy, Maybe it is.

1113
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 5: Did he confer with the rest of the.

1114
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: So I can let me just a little. I'll take

1115
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: him behind the curtain a little bit. The Westling brothers

1116
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: have mostly opted out out of the X, but sometimes

1117
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: I guess they have conversations. But it's really Nick's ship

1118
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: now sure, And I would imagine there's no way in

1119
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 2: hell he would have had someone to back him on

1120
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: that at the Zoo. So this is this feels like

1121
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: pure because Nick did check in with me one of

1122
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: the many people that did, and said that he really

1123
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: does like these jets.

1124
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: So it's coming from an authentic place. Okay, all right,

1125
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: up next is me and I will take I like

1126
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 4: this game.

1127
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: Speaking of Eric Roberts, jump back on a second, the

1128
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders traveling to Orchard Park to face the

1129
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills eight and a half points.

1130
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: The Bills are given in this one, Eric everything.

1131
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, the story coming out of Monday Night was the

1132
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: Rogers injury, but a very very big overall league storyline

1133
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: was this terrible performance by Josh Allen, who gave that

1134
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: game way as a Bills fan, one to ten peace

1135
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: scale one underpants to totally dry and no problem at all.

1136
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: You can go anyway you want ten soaked to the bone,

1137
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: gotta get home, gotta change the underpants. And it's not

1138
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: even like you don't throw them in the hamper. It's

1139
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: a wrap that you throw the how you underpants? What's

1140
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 2: the peace scale?

1141
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 7: I'm not like a five a little damn little little

1142
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 7: damp if you have, like probably pushing eight.

1143
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 2: A little bit of an odor from not right next

1144
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: to you, like not from five feet away, but you

1145
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: get close.

1146
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 7: Comfortable sitting next to Christy right now, if you know

1147
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 7: it'd be like.

1148
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 4: At a five like that. Don't drag me into your

1149
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: urine stories.

1150
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: There's a musk to that.

1151
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: Urine underpants.

1152
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 7: But if they lose to the Raiders and Josh Allen

1153
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 7: kind of has another another another whoopsie game, they'll be

1154
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 7: pushing an eight.

1155
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 4: Now, what do you think is going on? Here's the question,

1156
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: and I'll open up to everybody.

1157
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: What are the conversations that Sean McDermott has with Josh

1158
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: Allen this week? Now, Allen, to his credit, put the

1159
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: whole thing on his shoulders, as he should have.

1160
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: He blew that game.

1161
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: There's no reason the Jet should have been able to

1162
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: come back unless the quarterback the other team gets as

1163
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: reckless as Alan did. Is there a conversation that leads

1164
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: to and this? This would make me feel a little bit.

1165
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: I would be torn as a Bills fan. We need

1166
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: you to rein it in and not be Josh Allen

1167
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: because this is becoming to be an issue. Are we

1168
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: going to see a more conservative version of him this week?

1169
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: I don't think so, because it's like there's too much

1170
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 5: evidence that if you take away what's special about Josh Allen,

1171
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: that you're missing a major element of your offense. This

1172
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 5: felt like a ghost ridden bike to me, this entire attack,

1173
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 5: and we could go and I think the thing is

1174
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 5: though I would parcel in the Josh Allen like Joe

1175
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 5: Burrow against the Browns. It's like if that were all,

1176
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 5: if that were his career, like week after week, we

1177
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: would not be even talking about Joe Burrow.

1178
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: Its disaster to make the decisions or you know, and

1179
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: he had to play in the weather. It was the

1180
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: mental side of it that was so.

1181
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: I'm with you there, But I think the Jets of

1182
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: awareness of the type of game he was playing, right.

1183
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 5: The Jets have had Josh Allen's number the last couple

1184
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: of seasons, though, and I think some quarterbacks just don't

1185
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 5: match up well. But I feel like even I know

1186
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 5: I mentioned this game too many times, but even when

1187
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 5: he went out there for a long period of time

1188
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 5: against the Steelers in the preseason, something just didn't seem

1189
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 5: right with Josh Allen a little bit. And I think

1190
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 5: like the last the way that last season ended, I mean,

1191
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 5: these two games were moved from throwing three hundred and

1192
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 5: fifty two yards against the Dolphins in the playoffs. But

1193
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 5: outside of some of that, like the Josh Allen at

1194
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 5: the end of last season and the turnovers and the

1195
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 5: red zone performance, It's like this is like a post

1196
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: Brian Daball version of Josh Allen. It seems like he

1197
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 5: misses Brian Table.

1198
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I think those conversations happen, of course, but

1199
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 3: he's smart enough to say it first, and I think

1200
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 3: the conversations have been happening his whole career. But when

1201
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: he gets on the field, he blacks out. And he

1202
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: basically rained that in from the first two seasons where

1203
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: he was totally chaotic and would black out, And in

1204
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: this case, it was just forcing passes that just weren't

1205
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: even there. It just wasn't even passes that were worth taking.

1206
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 3: The third interception, to me, was understandable, but this is all.

1207
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: Other of them were close to being completed by no No.

1208
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: But the third one it was a great play by

1209
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: Whitehead where I don't think he expected him to make

1210
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: that play that The others were just insane. The Buffalo

1211
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: Bills are also transitioning. I mean, they were literally the

1212
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: least tight end heavy league in the team in the

1213
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: league last year, and in Week one they were by

1214
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 3: far the most. They had knocks and kincaid out their

1215
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: sixty something percent of the steps. No one plays two

1216
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: tight ends that much, and so there is a bit

1217
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: of transition here, they're searching for secondary receivers behind Diggs.

1218
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: You're trying to keep Digs busy, to keep him happy

1219
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 3: because something Alan and Diggs and like, it's a lot

1220
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: and you you got to be able to count on

1221
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 3: your defense to your point Dan like in that game,

1222
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: to just go win it for you, and they would

1223
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: and they would have, they would have, And in this

1224
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: game too against the Raiders. I don't think Jimmy g

1225
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: as clean as Jimmy G played last week, and I

1226
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: think he looked well. Jacoby Myers probably not in this game,

1227
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: and he's coming out of concussion, Like, I think you

1228
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: can probably trust that your defense is not giving up

1229
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: more than twenty points in this game.

1230
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: You know Dables last year and you know interceptions can

1231
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: be misleading, but he threw a career high fifteen picks

1232
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: that year. He has the most interceptions in the league

1233
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: of any quarterback in the last three years. So he's

1234
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: always gonna be that gun sling elma to his game.

1235
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: And that's okay, Like going back to Joe Namath and

1236
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Brett Farv like far as interception numbers were in.

1237
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 4: SAT's okay, as long as it's being balanced out with

1238
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: like I will give him credit on the touchdown pass

1239
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: he had to digs on Monday Night.

1240
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: That's just classic Allen, Like that's his that's his move,

1241
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: Like it's his finishing move, that ability.

1242
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: To scramble and then at the last second pull the

1243
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: trigger and drop it in there. I don't want.

1244
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: I think the Bills will be worse off if he's

1245
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: raining in his game to try to limit his turnovers.

1246
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: I think he's got to be himself, but there's got

1247
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: to be if he really is a mad man and

1248
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: he just can't process it, the Bills are never gonna

1249
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: get over the hump.

1250
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 4: But I've seen enough good film of Josh Allen. Yeah

1251
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 4: that I'm not.

1252
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm not in the camp of I think the Bills

1253
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: are in trouble. Now you're starting to hear that creeping

1254
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: in like, oh, Josh Allen, is he part of the problem. No,

1255
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: In fact, this might be a game where he kicks

1256
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: a mass here and kind of shuts some people up,

1257
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: like the Raiders seem like at home in Buffalo. A

1258
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 2: great matchup for Josh Allen to play some big time football.

1259
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: Well, And I think though from a flip side, because

1260
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 5: I've been relentlessly destroying the Raiders for six plus months,

1261
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 5: if not sixteen to eighteen months. This is a huge chance.

1262
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 5: And I thought the Jimmy g played really well, and like,

1263
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 5: you know, you are catching a Bills team that I

1264
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: think it's just it's not that I think the whole

1265
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 5: thing doesn't work. They're under a lot of pressure though.

1266
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 5: They just feel tight, and I think what happened, what

1267
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: manifested on Monday night is so much a part of

1268
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 5: that that they're just like penciled in. Is this team

1269
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 5: that's going to be in the AFC Final two or

1270
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: Final four, And it's like they feel incomplete to me,

1271
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: Like I don't know if I trust the Raiders defense

1272
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 5: to handle Josh Allen, But do you think that there's

1273
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 5: a way that you get another really clean game from

1274
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 5: Garoppolo and you're hanging around late that the Bills get

1275
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 5: into their heads a little bit. It just seems like

1276
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 5: a team of all these AFC teams maybe throw the

1277
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 5: Bengals in there to some agree that just a little

1278
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 5: bit tight right now.

1279
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: Well in the in the crowd will be tight. Will

1280
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: remind me of those old like Fenway Park Red Sox

1281
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 3: crowds are so loud at the beginnings of the games

1282
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: and then wanted to get towards the end. You get,

1283
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: you get a little tight, it'll be tough. I do

1284
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: think that the Raiders defensive progress we heard about in

1285
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 3: camp played out pretty well in week one. They have

1286
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: to be happy they're not gonna have Chandler Jones back.

1287
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem but I thought the Bills defense has

1288
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: a lot to like. Greg Russo played well. I think

1289
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: they've kind of settled on their cornerback with Benford. They've

1290
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 3: totally benched their former first round pick kyer Elam like Mac,

1291
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: I think they look okay. And I've got an eye

1292
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: on Josh Jacobs.

1293
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: He didn't.

1294
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: He's had a very up and down career and he

1295
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 3: came into camp late, but he just didn't quite have

1296
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: that pop last week. So just keep an eye on

1297
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: him because he one year he's great, one year, the

1298
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 3: next he's not. Like I don't know, hope he's going

1299
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 3: through his training camp in real exactly so, because that's

1300
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: how you beat the Rams, I mean the Bills. If

1301
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna beat the Bills, they're gonna have to run

1302
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: on it.

1303
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 4: I would like Jacobe Myers to be in this game.

1304
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: He really flashedes a receiver next to DeVonta Adams, but

1305
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: he was in concussion protogol in the middle of the week,

1306
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: and so it's not looking good for Myers to be

1307
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 2: on the field against the Bills. I think the Bills

1308
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 2: win this one comfortably and if they don't, look out

1309
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: big problems.

1310
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: Although remember the Bengals row in two a year ago.

1311
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's a you can point to reach.

1312
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 5: I think, why if I'm with you, win with you?

1313
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 5: Like I think that Jets loss was a disaster for Buffalo.

1314
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: All right, pause right there. We got to finish out

1315
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: this draft, but not before a quick break. All right,

1316
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: we're back Mark, You're up, all right.

1317
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 5: So, like I'm not saying this is the best game left,

1318
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 5: but I have to pick a late game, and I'm

1319
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 5: gonna go. I kind of am interested to see what

1320
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 5: happens here. Giants Cardinals, I mean talk about a New

1321
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 5: York Which New York disaster was bigger obviously the Jets

1322
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 5: for the future. But like the Giants laid about as

1323
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 5: large as an egg as one could imagine being produced

1324
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: on our Earth. It happened in front on an island

1325
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 5: game a terrible island to be on and the Cardinals

1326
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 5: for all the giggling play, the commander's tough on how

1327
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 5: to lead in the fourth quarter. It's like you just assume,

1328
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 5: I guess by logic.

1329
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: That the Gmas more then giggling. It's it's owling laughter

1330
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: for an organization to be run as poor.

1331
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and less for a Cardinals fan then it's very

1332
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 5: little laughter. But like I if, I mean, talked with

1333
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 5: Zumbold a little bit by text and he just flat

1334
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 5: out doesn't agree that the team is, you know, tanking,

1335
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 5: because I don't think you can tank number one if

1336
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: you're can't tell the.

1337
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: Course they're trying their hardest. I think it's a different.

1338
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 5: It's like you put the wrong trying if you put

1339
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 5: the wrong players out on the field.

1340
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: That's sometimes people.

1341
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: Don't get, not that you obviously mark or even somewhat

1342
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: they don't understand what tanking means. Tanking isn't the players.

1343
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: The players are playing for a paycheck in their careers.

1344
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: The coaches are playing coaching for their jobs. They're coaching

1345
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: and playing their ass off. It's the organization putting that

1346
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: teams putting that tank is upstairs.

1347
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: It's being in a situation where Josh Dobbs is their

1348
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: best option, right, that's.

1349
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 5: The what you got to that place?

1350
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.

1351
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 5: I say there's a couple of little ways into this

1352
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 5: game for Arizona to keep it tight. Now about thout

1353
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon, Like that defense had three turnovers a week ago,

1354
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 5: they had a fumble return for a touchdown. Like they

1355
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 5: kind of put the Commanders into a tough spot, and

1356
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 5: so maybe Jonathan Gannon's defense has some life. Darren Waller

1357
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 5: has a hamstring injury right now that is being labeled

1358
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 5: as a lingering issue. That's sort of like the worst

1359
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 5: case scenario for Darren Waller, who obviously didn't show up

1360
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 5: a week ago. Andrew Thomas did not practice on Wednesday.

1361
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 5: It's like you got a banged up version of the

1362
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 5: Giants who probably are questioning who they are at this

1363
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 5: point after getting whipped the way they did terrible weather.

1364
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 5: But I get that. But it's like you talk about

1365
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 5: another quarterback under a lot of pressure. It's Daniel Jones.

1366
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 5: It's this offensive line. It's like Saquon Barkley didn't do

1367
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 5: much last time. They were a mistake prone. They were

1368
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 5: kind of everything they weren't a year ago. Brian da Bolder,

1369
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 5: WonderBoy was completely out coached. I think think bad night

1370
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 5: there was a bat there's a bad weather element to

1371
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 5: that game at Snowball, but there was a weather element

1372
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 5: for the Cowboys too.

1373
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: In a fluky element. But Andrew Thomas be now that's

1374
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: a huge problem. It sounds like he's gonna miss this game,

1375
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: maybe multiple games. He's their best player. I would say

1376
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: on Cardinals had six sex they're right tackle Evan Neil,

1377
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: who they've been kind of hoping would pop up, did

1378
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: not have a good Week one at all, and yeah,

1379
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: maybe they can make this game an ugly game, especially

1380
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: if Waller's not there. You would think that the Giants

1381
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 3: have enough talent. But but it wasn't a good week

1382
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: for their pass rush either. Kavon was quiet O j Lari.

1383
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: I would like to think this Giants defense does plenty.

1384
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: Though you know, would be really ugly. And I believe

1385
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 4: in this thing.

1386
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: With the way the NFL schedule plays out, when you

1387
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: have a bad Week one loss and then you get

1388
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: what should be a layup in Week two, usually you

1389
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: take advantage of that. If you have a Week three

1390
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: death March going to San Francisco next week, Giants. They're

1391
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: probably not even coming back East. They're probably staying out there,

1392
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: and they know if we don't beat the Cardinals on

1393
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 2: Sunday at four oh five on Fox and a game

1394
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: that is called just out of curiosity, I like to

1395
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 2: check in Adam Amine, Mark Scelerath, and Christina Pink.

1396
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 4: If we don't take care of business here, it's over.

1397
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 4: The season's over before it ever began.

1398
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: Five and a half point favor, Well.

1399
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 4: Go check rag. We'll own three teams, how many make

1400
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

1401
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: I know it's seventeen games now, but still I think

1402
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: the Giants will show up. I think that they were humbled,

1403
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: they're still well coached. Everyone had a bad day. Yeah,

1404
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have them in a good place

1405
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: and they're gonna play well. Sekuon is a big day

1406
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: and I think they win by ten.

1407
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: I think I would take the Cardinals to cover that

1408
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: five and a half.

1409
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 5: Point really well, then you have to believe that they've

1410
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 5: got just one.

1411
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: Of my general thoughts. Back in the day, and we

1412
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: do talk like what we think the score will be

1413
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: in on game debut. We do that too, but back

1414
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: in the day, one of the truisms and this would

1415
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: have been picking the Cardinals last week is like, never

1416
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 3: take bad to mediocre teams as heavy favorites like Washington

1417
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: should not be favored by seven in any scenario. Just

1418
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 3: too much can happen in the NFL. Should the Giants

1419
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 3: be favored by five and a half in any scenario.

1420
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 4: On the road. I don't think the Giants are a

1421
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 4: bad team. I would say now a mediocre Okay, maybe

1422
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 4: I'll give you that. It was week one. It was

1423
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: no good week.

1424
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: Let's see, you know what, that was a special night

1425
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: in London last year. We're gonna put that on ice until.

1426
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 4: They win a game, and hopefully for Giants fans listen

1427
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 4: Sunday nights.

1428
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: As a New York sports fan, we had a tough

1429
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: go of it Sunday Monday. I mean, people don't even

1430
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: know a lot of people if you don't fallow baseball.

1431
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: The Yankees have this once in a generation prospect, the

1432
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: marsh and Jason Domingez has an incredible first week, and

1433
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: then they learned that he tore his ucl and his

1434
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: elbow and he's out until next year. That happens Sunday.

1435
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: Then the Giant game happens Sunday night, and then Aaron

1436
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: Rodgers Monday enough a waterfall.

1437
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 4: Of like just poop for New York sports. Yeah too long?

1438
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 4: Maybe this is those on fire right now. It's good,

1439
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: it's good for It's very good for New York.

1440
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, only Jalen Brunson can save you.

1441
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 5: Now, it's great for the post until the Jets are

1442
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 5: like one in five and Zach Wilson still playing quarterback.

1443
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 5: Then it's your readership starts to fall off a little bit.

1444
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 5: Not necessary, Mark, I am not suggesting that's what I

1445
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 5: want at all, I know, but.

1446
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 2: Just that's an obvious thing that I'm processing, is a

1447
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: reality that I'm dealing with.

1448
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: Well, I apologize.

1449
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: I truly still love you. Let's move on, Greg, all right,

1450
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm taking a good game that's still available this late.

1451
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: Bengals three and a half point favorites over the Ravens.

1452
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 3: Ravens offensive line no Linderbaum. We mentioned out of practice

1453
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: their center, second year player Ronnie Stanley, the barometer of

1454
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: if the offense is going to be good or not.

1455
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 3: Out of practice, we know Marcus Williams isn't coming back

1456
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: for potentially a long time. Marlon Humphrey remember him, their

1457
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: best cornerback. They were hoping to have him back for

1458
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: a week two. Oh yeah, not sure. Not in practice.

1459
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: No one had a worse week in terms of the

1460
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: breadth of their team the amount of key players. Good

1461
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: word then than the Ravens.

1462
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 4: Spell at mark breadth b R E A D T

1463
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 4: HI A D.

1464
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a a disjointed offensive game.

1465
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 5: Don't do that to me again.

1466
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: The weather was a problem for the Bengals last week,

1467
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: only problem.

1468
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: Can we calm down with weather by the way for

1469
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: week two? Yeah, bad job by these codes. You don't

1470
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: need we clean it up. It was messy, yeah, and

1471
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: he does have the smaller hands. And the ball was

1472
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: slipping out nine inches. That's an old uh old nine inches,

1473
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: not fig Lamar coming off a bad game. Sometimes you

1474
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: saw their offense wasn't exactly sure what was going on either,

1475
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: like receivers in the wrong place. Lamar playing really well

1476
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: in the second half before just like a goofy fumble

1477
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: and he had a couple of those we've seen across

1478
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: the league.

1479
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: Defenses are a head of offenses right now. There aren't

1480
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: many deep passes going on. And then we got a

1481
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: theory from Nick Westley. Now that's hard on him, but

1482
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: I like to give him credit. He is an excellent

1483
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: football in sports mind, and oh yeah, his eye spotted,

1484
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: maybe just like a little less explosiveness. He thought out

1485
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: of Lamar as a runner as a playmaker then maybe

1486
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 3: in the past, which wouldn't be crazy in the league

1487
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: at while. So that's just something I'm just going to

1488
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: watch for. There were a couple of plays they certainly

1489
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: weren't calling running plays for Lamar, and that's fine. It's

1490
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 3: going to change depending on the week. But I really

1491
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: expect this to be a defensive game. I think it's

1492
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: going to take the Bengals more than a week to

1493
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: fix all the things that showed up in Week one.

1494
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 3: And I think the Ravens defense, not their offense, but

1495
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: their defense is still in great shape.

1496
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: I have a Lamar take.

1497
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: I don't think there are too many quarterback top weapon

1498
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: targets that make as much a big deal than when

1499
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: Lamar doesn't have Mark Andrews.

1500
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: Like, well, that's true, and it sounds like guy, that's

1501
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: his dog.

1502
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 4: That's his guy. He loves him in the intermediate passing game,

1503
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 4: he loves him in the red zone. You take him

1504
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: out of there. And I know Odell made you know,

1505
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 4: one really nice over the shoulder catch and we saw

1506
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 4: I agree with you, Greg Flowers really jumped out at

1507
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 4: you and you get the idea that he could be

1508
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 4: a big time player.

1509
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: So there are things they get excited about. But you

1510
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: need On Andrews on the field. I think he's the

1511
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: stabilizing Djenga piece for them.

1512
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Zay Flowers. I think what we saw that's

1513
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 5: like a week two week thing, like they finally drafted

1514
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 5: a wide receiver from you know, they've had trouble with

1515
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 5: that for twenty years, and like he looks like the

1516
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 5: real deal. I really would be concerned about Cincinnati's offensive line,

1517
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 5: like the release Lyle Collins. You've got Jonah Williams moving

1518
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 5: to right tackle pretty late in his career, and that's

1519
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 5: if he that's an iffy proposition. He didn't like. He

1520
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 5: didn't look good, But no one looked like I think

1521
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 5: we are going to not to go down like the

1522
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 5: Browns Avenue. But their defense I think is a difference

1523
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 5: making front. I mean, it's like I think a lot

1524
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 5: to do with what happened we go wasn't the weather.

1525
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 5: It's like they absolutely controlled Cincinnati's line. Burrow looked totally

1526
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 5: lost the idea that you have, what seven or eight

1527
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 5: targets to T Higgins, he doesn't catch any of them.

1528
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: Wasn't really on t Higgins.

1529
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 5: It was just I think Burrow he was fourteen for

1530
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 5: thirty one.

1531
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: Well that's what I thought was in our previews on Wednesday,

1532
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: Mark I pointed out not only was Cincinnati stuck in mud,

1533
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: there was very few passes where you could really point

1534
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: to him be like, oh there was an opportunity there.

1535
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: They just completely got shut down on offense, and all

1536
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: that was like gum flapping that I had getting fired

1537
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: up about Herbert. It's what I love about Burrow is

1538
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: he's like, I have no questions about Joe Burrow and

1539
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 2: the ferocious competitor that he is, and I just feel

1540
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: like he got embarrassed. He got embarrassed in Week one.

1541
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: He looked like a chump. The offense looked terrible. I know,

1542
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: again bad weather, but I would be surprised if Burrow

1543
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: doesn't play extremely well in this game.

1544
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: I I I wouldn't be surprised if he struggles, because

1545
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 3: the last time we saw him in this game, he struggled.

1546
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: They were lucky to beat the Ravens with Tyler Huntley

1547
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, you know, they they needed a couple

1548
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 3: crazy defensive plays, like they've struggled in general against the Ravens.

1549
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: This is kind of a nice spot for the Ravens because, yes,

1550
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 3: they have their own issues, but no one's expecting them

1551
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 3: to win this game. They're already have a chance here

1552
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 3: to go to and Er and win on the road

1553
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: against Cincinnati. Roquan Smith was insane last week. Like I

1554
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: never mentioned that on the Sunday Night game, but that's

1555
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 3: why we did the emergency pod last year.

1556
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 5: Rights why he got traded ceiling he like for very

1557
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 5: reasons past.

1558
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 3: Game run game like, he was insane last week, and

1559
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 3: I think this is it's just a division matchup. I'm

1560
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 3: not saying you could throw the records out, but I'd

1561
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 3: be surprised if this doesn't come down to the last possession.

1562
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: It'd be had a big win for the raod game.

1563
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 5: Is it a a Zach Taylor issue on some level that, like,

1564
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 5: you know, year after year they seem to come out

1565
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 5: of the gate kind of slow.

1566
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: That was my dumb question. We did dumb questions yesterday

1567
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: and I had a should.

1568
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 4: Check out yesterday's podcast.

1569
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: I was big What was he What was the answer,

1570
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: because it's like mine was like, is this is Zach

1571
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 3: Taylor the man to fix some problems in some letters?

1572
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 5: See like the reverse Andy Reid.

1573
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: Though, my answer was like, yeah, that was a tough

1574
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: start last year, and then they won ten games in

1575
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: a row, kicked everybody's ass in.

1576
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a little fan.

1577
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 5: He just had no creativity last week. I don't know.

1578
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 5: You spent months preparing for that game.

1579
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: So I thought Joe Mixon looked much better last week?

1580
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: Did he did a year ago?

1581
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 4: And Uh?

1582
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 3: With someone to target FA, they're gonna be okay.

1583
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were okay last year, they'll be okay this year.

1584
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 4: All right?

1585
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

1586
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 4: Oh he didn't see it coming.

1587
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 3: I knew it was coming, but I didn't love it.

1588
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: I actually hadn't decided which game I want to watch.

1589
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: Let's go Bears, Buck.

1590
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 4: Madison behind the glass, head spinning. What's the graphic? Oh,

1591
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 4: she has a rite off? Right up, she has it.

1592
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 4: That's a crack team behind the glass.

1593
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry, I have not Oh no, I've not

1594
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 3: been checking that slack Bucks Bears. The Bucks are two

1595
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite.

1596
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 4: What's your talk like that for the rest of this year.

1597
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 5: What's going on.

1598
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 3: That's like my invitation of Colleen, like Baker Mayfield's back, everybody.

1599
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 4: Sounds different when you do it.

1600
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Colleen sounds to most.

1601
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 3: Uh, that's kind of disrespectful to the Bucks. I mean,

1602
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 3: the Bears could not have looked worse a week ago.

1603
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 3: And if you're only a two and a half point

1604
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: favorite at home, it's basically saying they think the Bears

1605
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 3: are a better team. This is a tempting lock here because.

1606
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 4: I like that You're tempted because I agree with you.

1607
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bucks are any good, but like

1608
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: they showed a little something in Week one and the Bears.

1609
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: This was my whole double. This was my whole thing

1610
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 3: about the Bucks and the Bears in the preseason, Like,

1611
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: don't the Bucks have a lot of players who would

1612
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 3: be the best player on the Bears? Yes, Devin White

1613
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 3: looked great last week, Levante David still great, Mike Evans,

1614
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 3: you got christ Like everyone's so excited about DJ Moore?

1615
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: Is DJ Moore better than Mike Evans or Chris Godwin?

1616
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's an conversation. They're in the same ballpark.

1617
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's certainly, like I think he's gonna be great

1618
01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 5: for them down the street.

1619
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 3: I'm just saying he's not. Like, he's not a top

1620
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: five or ten receiver in the league. And Godwin and

1621
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 3: Evans have shown their level. They have a lot of

1622
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: good players, is my point. Vidave is another and they

1623
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: and they those players won and I just smelled a

1624
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: little bit of bolls of Sons too coming. It's then

1625
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: to google Loo Let's go. When he went for the

1626
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 3: fourth and one in his own end, I thought, oh,

1627
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: is this like when Ron Rivera found fourth down religion?

1628
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: He went for a fourth and one on his own

1629
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 3: thirty in a tie game with like seven minutes to go,

1630
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: and you know what, it led to the game winning point.

1631
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 4: They also settled for a fifty seven yard field goal

1632
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 4: to get those winning points.

1633
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 3: He's just doing what Well, that's because their offense isn't

1634
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 3: that good. I'm not saying they're a great team, but

1635
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: that decision.

1636
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 5: He's just doing what most of the league is doing

1637
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 5: at this point.

1638
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 3: I don't think most of the league would have gone

1639
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 3: for it there, and he wasn't doing that a year ago,

1640
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: is what I'm saying. Todd Bowles knows that this might

1641
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: be his last chance here and he's flying.

1642
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 2: Can I just for the listeners that aren't aware, because

1643
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: you're conflating it a little bit and maybe you're changing

1644
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: your I'd said the Bulls of Sans was always kind

1645
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: of the DC side of Todd Bowles, right.

1646
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 3: I was back when he was the DCQ.

1647
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 4: We've yet to see Todd really shine head.

1648
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: He's a super Bowl champion.

1649
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: Because let me look at it, because I have something

1650
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: now that I've moved away from Power rankings, and check

1651
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: out Eric ed Holme, who handles them now, and he

1652
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: does a podcast. He took over the feed that Colleen

1653
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: and I were on last year, and it's ed Holme

1654
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: and Andrew Ceciliano and they are doing the damn thing. Sure,

1655
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: the Bucks are the Classic win their first two games,

1656
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: and then if you're doing power rankings, I'm like, what

1657
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: are you doing they're gonna do with these guys, and

1658
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 2: I put out I would probably put them at like

1659
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: fifteen or something, and then a bunch of angry Bucks

1660
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: and we should be in the top ten. There's only

1661
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: five two and OHO teams and then it's like, okay,

1662
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 2: let's go watch him against the Philly Philly Eagles next

1663
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: week and then you tell me if they should still

1664
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: be number seven in the league. Right, good setup for

1665
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: them because and we touched on it, and yesterday the

1666
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: Bears could not have had a worse start to their season.

1667
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 2: The Chase Claypool stuff. He might not even be active

1668
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: in this game. And to me, I know, Claypool's a

1669
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 2: little bit of a mess potentially behind the scenes, Like

1670
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: you give up a borderline first round pick for him.

1671
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: That is mouth feasance in the front office. Uh, but

1672
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: this type of stuff happening in week ahead of week

1673
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: two is just not a good reflection of what's going

1674
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: on in that building right now.

1675
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 4: No, there is.

1676
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 2: If I'm Adam Rank and Bears fans, I'm extremely, extremely

1677
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 2: and I've lived through these type of scenes, toxic scenes,

1678
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: and you watch your team go down the tubes early.

1679
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm very worried about what version of the Bear shows

1680
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: up in this game.

1681
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1682
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 5: Dan Wider of the Chicago Tribune, how interesting tweet.

1683
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 4: Got it yesterday? You talked about it yesterday.

1684
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 5: I got it. Not maybe missing these Wednesday shows, but

1685
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 5: do you. I found that to be pretty concerned.

1686
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: Good to repeat it because many listeners may be miss.

1687
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 5: Short it said they were to have shaken by the

1688
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 5: week one performance, and that in my time covering the NFL,

1689
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 5: I can't really remember a time. We're on Wednesday, a

1690
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 5: week two, a building seems so apparently shaken by and

1691
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 5: or short.

1692
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 3: They were talking a big game this offseason, so is

1693
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 3: their media.

1694
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 5: They were, But if you so, I'm sure this wasn't

1695
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 5: so much on the condensed version of last week's Bears game.

1696
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 5: But in the second half, when it was clear the

1697
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 5: Green Bay was dropping a bomb on them, the bench,

1698
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 5: the players, they just looked totally broken, like they thought

1699
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 5: they were a completely different team than they were. And

1700
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 5: so that's when the floor can fall out. I mean again,

1701
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 5: their offensive line looked like a absolute disaster, and it

1702
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 5: feelds like you have to worry about his health in

1703
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 5: general when the hands.

1704
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 6: Of it too.

1705
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: Hey, he was not good. He's so slow and people

1706
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 3: and it was kind of like pick on Justin Fields

1707
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: on film Twitter week and it was week one, but

1708
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 3: people smarter than me. Alignement two. Just notice that everything's slow,

1709
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 3: like his drops are slow, kind of mechanical where he's

1710
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: thinking one, two, three, four, five, and it's just getting

1711
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 3: back very slowly. And that certainly going through progressions. Sometimes

1712
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 3: he holds the ball. That's what he did at Ohio State,

1713
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 3: That's what he did here. Last week he had one

1714
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 3: of the highest maybe the highest time to throw in

1715
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 3: the league. So yeah, the offensive line is struggling, but

1716
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 3: he's also taking a while to make decisions and that

1717
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: that speaks to the offense being disjointed. And it's part

1718
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: of partly why I'm worried about this team because I

1719
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 3: don't know, coaching wise, have have we seen these guys

1720
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: show a lot of answers on either side.

1721
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm rooting hard for the Bears in

1722
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 4: this game.

1723
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 3: They kind of need it.

1724
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: It's really because the Chicago fans have been through a

1725
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: lot of dysfunction and they don't have a lot of success.

1726
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 3: Really.

1727
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 4: People that are my age, for instance, don't have anything really.

1728
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: But you know who's going to speed you up a

1729
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 3: little bit. Bulls will be setting those double a gap

1730
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 3: blitzes like he was twenty years ago.

1731
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 5: I can't do this.

1732
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: It's the same stuff.

1733
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 5: What the Bulls business. We're back here. We're just back

1734
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 5: with these hype jobs.

1735
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: It's just like, okay, it's just kind of a fun

1736
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 3: little story and they had like a fun nine week

1737
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 3: that's excited sometimes.

1738
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 5: One he had one daring maneuver as a head coach,

1739
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 5: and we're we're putting their defense.

1740
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 3: Their defense had a nice performance. Baker. By the way,

1741
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 3: you know our Gregy Lowest time to throw his his

1742
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: game last week. Time to throw and avoiding sacks was

1743
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: better than it's been his whole career. Like if you

1744
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 3: repeated that week week after week. He got rid of

1745
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: the ball quickly and he avoided the sects slow start.

1746
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, if he's not going to make

1747
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 3: mistakes like they got.

1748
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 4: A chance, we know what Baker is.

1749
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: I get excited, uited, want and then when it doesn't happen,

1750
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 3: it's no, you don't.

1751
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 5: But that's not it's the same people that we hear

1752
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 5: are over inflated mentions. You know, I could lame those

1753
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 5: five people.

1754
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 4: All right, and that will say that for the Wednesday Show.

1755
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 4: Next week, I'll see he'll be down there, Mark, you

1756
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 4: are up your last pick of the draft.

1757
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 5: All right, I'll go. I want to take a look

1758
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 5: at Russell Wilson here.

1759
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 4: We talked about him on the Wednesday Show. So much

1760
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 4: to say here, just kidding, Go ahead, now, I know

1761
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 4: to see he never even came up. You're all good,

1762
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: Sam Howell, Russell Wilson, who doesn't like that?

1763
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 5: I don't love it, Washington, but Washington getting three and

1764
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 5: a half points, No, I don't love It's why the

1765
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 5: second to last pick here. But I don't know. I

1766
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 5: think I think more evidence and just more, more, more

1767
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 5: quarters from Russell Wilson to see what he really is.

1768
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 5: I thought he'd well, if you got what he was

1769
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 5: last week, all of last season, he wouldn't have been

1770
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 5: a conversation piece. He wasn't special or anything, but far

1771
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 5: from a disaster. Howell to me, like what two hundred

1772
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 5: and two yards thirty one attempts, turned the ball over twice?

1773
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if you can survive with that week

1774
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 5: after week. He's a little spicy, obviously, but this Commander's

1775
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 5: team nearly lost to the Cardinals, and I don't know.

1776
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 5: I'm a little suspicious of the whole situation.

1777
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 4: How about you, Greg, because you're pretty high on the

1778
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 4: Commanders entering the season.

1779
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 3: Faith they're not gonna be pretty. I'm a little worried.

1780
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: How up and down it was Howell speaking of holding

1781
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 3: the ball, held the ball forever in that game, and

1782
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: some of those sacks were on him, but he's playing

1783
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 3: a team of the Broncos who had the lowest pressure

1784
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 3: rate in the league last week. Now, that part of

1785
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 3: that's just Jimmy g getting rid of the ball quickly,

1786
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 3: but the Broncos didn't show anything special defensively. And I

1787
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: know this is an overreaction, it's definitely a hot take,

1788
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: but when Seohn Peyton went for that, went for that

1789
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 3: on side kick right at the gate, and then every

1790
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 3: the whole crowd goes crazy.

1791
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 4: Because everybody look at me, I'm Sean Payton.

1792
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 3: The whole crack. And then when they took the flag

1793
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 3: out and they announced the penalty, Yeah, that felt like

1794
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: the end of the Sean Payton era to me.

1795
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 4: Just now that's a take.

1796
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 3: It just felt like that was such a bad open.

1797
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 3: I don't mean it's all gonna get out the bunch

1798
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: of burners. It was just like a wo wow. I'm

1799
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 3: not saying they're not gonna win games. There won't be moments,

1800
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 3: but it just was like, Oh, we're gonna try to

1801
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 3: recreate something, but it just won't wit.

1802
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 5: It was a massive wet fart.

1803
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 4: I love it, and it was so close to working

1804
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 4: that's what That's what I.

1805
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: Mean, that's what convinced me that it's just not gonna happen,

1806
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 3: because it's just the way they just pulled.

1807
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 5: The rug out from under you at the end of

1808
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 5: the era already that is this could be a.

1809
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 3: There's no way this this is gonna come down to

1810
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 3: the last possession. Right, There's these two teams just seem destined.

1811
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 4: I believe this has got seventeen sixteen written all over.

1812
01:18:59,479 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 4: What do you think?

1813
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: Javonte Williams, he got a lot, He got a little

1814
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 2: more run than I was expecting for good, devastating me.

1815
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 5: Peyton said like last week before the game that he

1816
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 5: was ready to use him a.

1817
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 3: Lot better than I thought season. I thought he looked fine. Yeah,

1818
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: I thought he looked pretty good. If it was p

1819
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 3: Ryan who drove me a little crazy. He had that

1820
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: one third and one where he had all sorts of

1821
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: space and he bounces outside and doesn't pick it up.

1822
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: Ended up being a big moment in that game.

1823
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: Greg Dulsich their tight end. He I think he's up

1824
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: in the air. He got banged up last week, and

1825
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: uh yeah, sounds like Jerry Judy could play. That would

1826
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: be very helpful. And let's see if Russell Wilson could

1827
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: string together some improved games. I thought it was a

1828
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: little bit of a step up last week, but nothing

1829
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: that was like a little rise to the level of

1830
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: his page.

1831
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 7: And I get it.

1832
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: They only had three possessions in the second half and

1833
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: they tried to kick a field go on two of them.

1834
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 3: So it wasn't like a nothing was disastrous, but there

1835
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 3: wasn't much that you were like, okay, great. It was

1836
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: a very condensed offense. And I think this Commander's d

1837
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 3: line that was why I was high on him. I

1838
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 3: thought they'll be talented enough on offense and really good

1839
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 3: in terms of their defensive line that they can ugly

1840
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 3: into about nine or ten wins.

1841
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 5: So I could still see the Jared Stidham era beginning

1842
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 5: at some point, even though apparently the Sean Payton aerra

1843
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 5: has already ended.

1844
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: So that would be let's ride three and a half points,

1845
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: the Broncos laying the wood in that one.

1846
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 4: All right, we got one last game.

1847
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 3: I like the Commanders there, I come straight up, there's.

1848
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 4: One more game in the board. Oof.

1849
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 5: Oh well this is not this is kind of a

1850
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 5: nice You know what.

1851
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: If I had to choose between the one we just

1852
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: did in this, I would choose this because I was

1853
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: I was legitimately like, okay, Colts, we're on offense.

1854
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 5: I was like, what about on defense? Okay, yeah, they

1855
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 5: had Buckner and friends.

1856
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 4: They had they had I thought for.

1857
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: A team, I think they lost by ten points at home,

1858
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: but like you know, for week one, for a team

1859
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: with no expectations after a hideous summer with the Jonathan

1860
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: Taylor stuff, I thought Anthony Richardson played better than I

1861
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: was expecting.

1862
01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 4: As a passer.

1863
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: I saw what Trevor Lawrence was talking about when I

1864
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: watched the game, that there were some unnecessary hits that

1865
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: he took that he's gonna have to be careful with

1866
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 2: because that's gonna end him real quick as a rookie

1867
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: this year, he was banged up, but he's gonna be

1868
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: playing in this game. But in general, I thought he

1869
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: was kind of a fun guy to watch and you

1870
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: saw you saw it like you could see where as

1871
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: he gets more and more comfortable in this offense, he

1872
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: is going to he's gonna make big plays for them,

1873
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: obviously with his arm and legs. So I'm interested in

1874
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: the Colts the offensive line. I thought was better. That's

1875
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: a major point of this team. And then the Texans

1876
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: are still kind of a blank slate to me, Colts

1877
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 2: just laying one point in this one. So the Desert

1878
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: sees it very close. Your thoughts, guys, on what you're

1879
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: seeing from the Texans so far and looking at.

1880
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 5: Him, I'm be a little concerned about c J. Stroud

1881
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 5: in this game. With Laramie Tunsel dealing with a knee issue.

1882
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 5: He may play, but he's not like that line like

1883
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 5: a couple months ago, looked like it could be a strength,

1884
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 5: and they're banked up all over the place. I don't

1885
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 5: love that for them, But I thought, you know, he

1886
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 5: looked pretty good. I thought, for he's just gonna take time.

1887
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 5: But I think that CJ. Stroud does some things really well.

1888
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 5: And for me, it's just that I also trust their

1889
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 5: defense under Tmiko Ryans to be much better than they

1890
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 5: were a year ago. They were terrible against the run

1891
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 5: last year. But then you've got the Colts throwing Dion

1892
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 5: Jackson at you, who ran for fourteen yards on thirteen

1893
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 5: attempts and had two lost fumbles.

1894
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 3: They've had a lot of injuries and the Texans are

1895
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 3: just one of those teams that can't afford a lot

1896
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 3: of injuries. Jalen Peatree, they're a defensive captain, their second

1897
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: year player, they just love had that bruised lung. He's

1898
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 3: out of practice. Jimmy Ward, the safety has a hip injury.

1899
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 3: He's out of practice. And that safety tandem, to me,

1900
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: had a chance. And Texans fans were talking about this

1901
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: offse to be one of, if not the best safety

1902
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 3: tandems in the entire league. So that was gonna be

1903
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 3: like part of their identity. Their offensive line was going

1904
01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 3: to be part of their identity. So a lot of

1905
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 3: bad life. I'm with you on Stroud. I know he

1906
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: didn't grade out well in PFF and he was in

1907
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 3: third and really long situations a lot. And he did

1908
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 3: make a lot of rookie mistakes where he held on

1909
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: to his progression too long. But he had about six

1910
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: or seven real professional throws like deep out see that

1911
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 3: every anticipation, and that if you're a rookie on a

1912
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: bad team, that gives you hope, because not every rookie

1913
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 3: shows that right off the bat. So I'm with you,

1914
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what to see in this game. We

1915
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: never mentioned Will Anderson looked great.

1916
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that That's one thing that jumped

1917
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: out to me about the Texans that Will Anderson looks

1918
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: like a can't miss dude who he had a sack,

1919
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: two QB hits, six pressures, that's fourth.

1920
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 4: In the league. And I know Jalen Carter had a

1921
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 4: big week one as well.

1922
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: So you look at like some of the young defensive

1923
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: players and that came into the league this year, Anderson

1924
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: looks like a hit for them. And then on the

1925
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Colt side, one other point, Michael Pittman's an important guy

1926
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: for them, and you want to see that chemistry between

1927
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 2: Pittman and Richardson, and he saw it. Eleven targets, eight

1928
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 2: for ninety seven, had a touchdown. So I just saw

1929
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: it in general, especially with how shaky things felt for

1930
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 2: the Cults entering the year, that stich In might have

1931
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: this team in a good place offensively as the year

1932
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: goes along.

1933
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 5: They need to like the one thing they struggled with

1934
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 5: a week ago. I think they were one for five

1935
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 5: on fourth downs. They struggled in short yardage in general.

1936
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 4: They tried to do this did the Jaguars.

1937
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 3: That was a little bunky that everyone thinks it was

1938
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: like Oh, we got to make a rule against the.

1939
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 5: The you gotta be otherwise we don't need any If.

1940
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: Everyone could do it, everyone would be doing it. Last

1941
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,480
Speaker 3: week I saw it fail a couple of times. Richardson's

1942
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: such a strange player though. I mean, he's so electric

1943
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 3: and so exciting, and he may he's really good at

1944
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: like some of the harder decision I think he makes

1945
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 3: good decisions and he like he goes through his progressions,

1946
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 3: but like you just don't know where the ball is

1947
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: gonna go. So that is a little like like I

1948
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 3: think his bad play is like he actually he made

1949
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 3: good decisions and then just the ball was like five

1950
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 3: feet off and that that is a little where he's

1951
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Speaker 3: But he made some really good good places.

1952
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Speaker 4: Watch this one closer. Yeah, I thought I thought his

1953
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 4: accuracy was pretty good in this game or raw, but

1954
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 4: they must have missed it more throus.

1955
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Speaker 5: They were three for seventeen on third and fourth downs

1956
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Speaker 5: last week.

1957
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 4: You have got to get it out of their Stroud

1958
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: was pressured eighteen times on forty six dropbacks. So yeah,

1959
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 4: that is an opportunity for the cults that they can

1960
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 4: go to some business in their pass rush. All right,

1961
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Speaker 4: that's it. Let's Week two again.

1962
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Speaker 2: Thursday Night football, Greg and I both locking up the

1963
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 2: Eagles bravely to take care of business. While we look good,

1964
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: we look bad. Well, we'll find out a little bit

1965
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: later and Sunday we'll be back. Flagship program NFL Plus.

1966
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Speaker 2: New episode coming up later today in your feeds. Till

1967
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Speaker 2: then he the call.