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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for insisting on a patornity

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Speaker 1: test before accepting my ex wife's son as my own.

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Speaker 1: I thirty two male, was married to my ex wife,

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Speaker 1: Jane thirty female, for five years, which is a long time.

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Speaker 1: Our marriage ended after I discovered she had been cheating

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Speaker 1: on me for about a year with multiple men. She

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Speaker 1: got pregnant, and oh, she got pregnant and confessed that

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Speaker 1: she doesn't know if the baby was mine or her

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Speaker 1: affair partners. Oh, mamma mia. A couple of months after

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Speaker 1: the divorce, I tried to reach out there to see

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Speaker 1: if the baby was mine but couldn't, and I learned

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Speaker 1: through a friend that she and her new partner had

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Speaker 1: left the country back to.

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Speaker 2: Back to back. Just pain, wow, pain starting off crazy.

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Speaker 1: That was two years ago, and I thought that was

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Speaker 1: that I love how OPI was just like dot, it's over. Thought,

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Speaker 1: it's over, like he just maybe has a kid in

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Speaker 1: another country with his wife. Was over. Well, it's not over, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not over Okay. Recently, Jane reached out to my

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Speaker 1: mother claiming that her kid is mine and in need

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Speaker 1: of financial help. Jane told my mother that her partner

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Speaker 1: his now. For context, my mother has been desperate for grandkids,

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Speaker 1: especially since my older brother is gay and child free,

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Speaker 1: and I've been single since the divorce. So like the

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Speaker 1: grandmother's like, give me the child, give me the children.

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Speaker 2: It's my only chance.

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Speaker 1: She's been relentless in pressuring me to help out Jane. However,

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Speaker 1: I have my doubts given her infidelity. I find it

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Speaker 1: hard to trust her claims without concrete evidence, which understandable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I've insisted on a paternity test before committing to

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Speaker 1: any financial or emotional push support. If the child is

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Speaker 1: indeed mine, I'll gladly step up and fulfill my responsibilities

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Speaker 1: as a father, but I refuse to do so without

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Speaker 1: proper legal documentation. I mean, I feel like that makes

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Speaker 1: a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 1: My mother and Jane are both vehemently against the idea

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Speaker 1: insist that the child is mine based on similar resemblances,

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Speaker 1: like having blue eyes, which I have, but Jane has

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Speaker 1: blue eyes as well. The issue came to a head

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Speaker 1: when my mother posted a picture on Facebook of her

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Speaker 1: and the kid titled my grandson.

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Speaker 2: Wait, she's already claiming the.

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Speaker 1: Kid, already claiming what's happened. OPSX wife is for the streets,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like mama is also for the streets.

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Speaker 2: Du mom.

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Speaker 1: Grandmama going a little crazy because that means she went

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Speaker 1: behind his back, to the to the baby confirmed it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, Maybe she just wants she's willing it to reality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 1: So now family members and some friends know about this

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Speaker 2: For what parenting the kid that isn't yours.

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Speaker 1: That that doesn't make any sense. So my family members

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Speaker 1: is sure the kid is mine, So basically they're like,

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Speaker 1: you should be sure too. My friends say, I am

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Speaker 1: but I can't shake off my doubts, and I refuse

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to do what's right, but I need certainty first.

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Speaker 1: But it's driving me crazy with so many people close

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Speaker 1: to me saying I should just take responsibility. My older

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Speaker 1: because of family bonds, which are a major thing there.

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Speaker 1: But I am standing firm on my decision to do

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Speaker 1: a paternity test. So the question is, should OP do

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Speaker 3: Wanting it verification, I want a grand baby. It's my

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you saying do the test or just buying.

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 2: I beg you on my knees.

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Speaker 3: Don't let everyone, including this grandma gaslight. You not grammy

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Speaker 1: We don't need granny gaslights. We don't need granny alights. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So hmm eighty eight saying DNA test. Jacqueline Shonnard saying

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Speaker 2: But guess what.

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Speaker 1: Well, the story gets crazier because there's an update. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, it's a big, fat, juicy, thick update. We're

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Speaker 2: Let's sue it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff has happened, and I am exhausted

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Speaker 1: dealing with this issue. Despite trying to talk reason to

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Speaker 1: Opie's baby and left the country. We were talking citizenship issues,

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Speaker 1: visitation issues, especially with judicial differences between different countries. That

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Speaker 1: My brother finally snapped and asked her if she was

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Speaker 1: With my aunt's help, we convinced her to talk to

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Speaker 1: According to my aunt, took some arguing between Mom and

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Speaker 1: I scheduled the test at the clinic and the earliest

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Speaker 1: appointment I could get was three days from that day.

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Speaker 1: I relaid all this to my mother and aunt and

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Speaker 1: Jane is gone. Now I knew Jane was back in

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Speaker 1: I did not know it was my mother who facilitated everything.

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Speaker 1: Oh who. My mother revealed that after Jane contacted her,

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Speaker 1: a month and a half. If it is oh Pea's kid.

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Speaker 1: It's so messy. You need both parents' permission for a

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Speaker 1: child to leave the country. This is very serious. The

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Speaker 3: We didn't think about that at first. The citizenship, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the dynamics. Can they live there? So many things?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is very complicated and getting more complicated. So basically,

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Speaker 1: Eight thousand is a lot?

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Speaker 1: A thousand is a lot, So eight thousand dollars insane.

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Speaker 1: She said all her friends are grandmother's and they always

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Speaker 1: peer pressure.

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Speaker 3: I don't care, I don't care, don't be an idiot,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is pretty stupid. This is like the dumbest

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Speaker 1: and most destructive way to give into peer pressure.

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Speaker 2: Truly.

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Speaker 1: She comes up to me and slap me w and

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Speaker 1: Aunt and brother managed to get her off of me.

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Speaker 1: She just kept saying I was a horrible son. I

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Speaker 1: it's like going to friendly fire. It's like turning from

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Speaker 5: Literally, like he's like, what did I do? And akid yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 5: you didn't give her a grandkid. Then she started off ranting,

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Speaker 5: saying Jane was right to cheat on me, that if

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Speaker 5: then this would never have happened. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know,

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Speaker 5: if you just had a kid with her, she might

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Speaker 5: not have cheated it with you. Just let people cheat you, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: just let people cheat on you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 1: It's crazy that the granny has baby fever.

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Speaker 2: You know what, here we go?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready if she cheats on you more, I

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Speaker 3: get more grand kids? True, and just accept them all

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Speaker 2: By Galciesi's on or something.

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Speaker 1: She comes, all right, But you know what we're also

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Speaker 3: Yes we are, and get ready for this. Am I

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Speaker 3: Maybe this comes from alternative Sir thirty three twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: So you thought.

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Speaker 3: I realized recently that the child had brown eyes and

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Speaker 3: the first one came back negative. That it's oh, that

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we got two negative paternity tests.

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Speaker 3: That's right, So that is double confirmation. Uh but okay,

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Speaker 2: Do you think this is true?

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so what we know is paternity tests

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Speaker 2: That's right. I think we've mixed up samples and babies.

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Speaker 3: Let's see least to say, I was devastated, but I

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Speaker 1: No, wait, wait, but is it confirmed that this kid

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Speaker 2: He's taken two tests, so he has hatred for the kid.

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Speaker 2: He has hatred for the kid.

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Speaker 1: Yes, misdirected. It's sad, like I understand that there's so

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Speaker 3: Girlfriend has no idea, no idea.

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Speaker 1: No, you got to say something.

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Speaker 2: The girlfriend and the baby has no idea.

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Speaker 3: So Obi says, it's like I've just gotten numb and

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Speaker 3: I've resented any time I've had to spin with a child.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn.

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Speaker 3: I'm aware that the child is not at fault and

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Speaker 3: I wish it it no harm, But this realist.

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Speaker 1: It's it.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty tough, that little worm with no queen.

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Speaker 4: After the baby's born, you can't call it it.

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Speaker 2: Golly, we don't know the baby's yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could call it a day, but watch step

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Speaker 4: I would just call it anything other than it baby.

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Speaker 3: But this realization changed something fundamental with my emotions. I

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Speaker 3: I've realized that I don't want to do this anymore.

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Speaker 3: I did not consent to raising another man's child. I

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Speaker 3: You're not obligated, just like MoMA the g isn't obligated

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Speaker 2: Hail What was it? Right?

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Speaker 1: Would it be?

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Speaker 2: That's right from your loyal German subject guten Dog. Three

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Speaker 2: days ago I confronted her, why is this so funny?

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Speaker 1: What did you say?

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Speaker 4: I said, who else would they be hailing? I didn't

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Speaker 3: Wow, wow, oh my god, I totally miss that. Sherman

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Speaker 3: behaling right, that was a funny thing for me. But

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Speaker 3: my god, we love you.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't intention.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't because you don't want to.

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Speaker 4: Know. I just didn't read that whole thing exactly.

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Speaker 2: So three days ago I confronted her.

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Speaker 3: She broke down, and so did I and she admitted

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Speaker 3: She understood I wanted to break up with her, but

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Speaker 3: She said that I had a responsibility for the boy,

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Speaker 1: Yo, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Father or not.

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Speaker 1: How about you had a responsibility to me by not cheating.

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Speaker 3: On me, huh and not lying like to me. It's

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Speaker 2: I mean, you shouldn't have cheated.

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Speaker 3: You're dirty, You're a stinky sinking You're a stinky woman

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Speaker 2: But like I know, it's hard, but you have to.

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Speaker 1: And also also really quick, really quick. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I believe her. I think she's downplaying the whole

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Speaker 1: thing by basically saying it was just a one time thing,

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Speaker 1: it was a fling. I think she was doing it

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Speaker 1: on the rag and like that is her out to

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Speaker 1: make it like, oh this all like, like, dude, I

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Speaker 1: heard it takes an average of seventy six times of

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Speaker 1: continuously hooking up to conceive interesting, an average of seventy

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Speaker 1: six times.

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Speaker 4: And of course there's you know, those random one night stands.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but I don't know, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Did this research come from Samuel Donner University.

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Speaker 1: I was looking it up. I was looking it up.

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Speaker 1: It was on read Actually it was on Reddit. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think she was continuously cheating, and she's trying

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Speaker 1: to downplay the like how much she was cheating by

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Speaker 1: just saying, oh, it was one time thing.

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Speaker 2: That is true.

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Speaker 1: Pepe is saying, sam it only takes one time, So

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're trying to disregard my theory of cheating.

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Speaker 1: But seventy six times, yes, it only takes one time.

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Speaker 1: BU But I don't agree. I don't I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't or I do agree with that, but I don't

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Speaker 1: believe her that she's saying it's only one time.

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Speaker 2: That's true. It's a good theory. It's a good theory.

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Speaker 1: It's my conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just there we go happy, and there it is,

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Speaker 3: Opie responds. I said no, and she got mad. So

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Speaker 3: I felt I better remove myself from the situation and

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Speaker 3: went to my buddy's house, where I've been saying. Now,

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Speaker 3: we live in Sweden and I know I can petition

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Speaker 3: for the court to revoke paternity and it's not like

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Speaker 3: the child will starve for anything. We have a functioning

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Speaker 3: social safety net. Shout out Sweden. And as for the

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Speaker 3: relationship with the boy, I just don't feel like I

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Speaker 3: want it anymore. Don't know why, but my feelings just

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Speaker 3: aren't there anymore. I feel like I've been connected. As

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Speaker 3: I said, I did not consent to raise somebody else's child,

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Speaker 3: but Avery K did donate two dollars. Hey chat, use rubbers,

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Speaker 3: that is right. Don't listen to Sam, Okay, they protected don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't believe her.

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Speaker 4: How old is the child?

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Speaker 1: Four?

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Speaker 4: Four years old? And he's calling the child an it yep.

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Speaker 4: I will say I was operating under the impression the

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Speaker 4: whole time that this child was a baby, a baby

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Speaker 4: four years old, that's a toddler.

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Speaker 3: But ladies and gentlemen, we are very close to finding

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Speaker 3: the conclusion of the story. As I said, I did

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Speaker 3: not consent to raising someone else's child. My buddies are

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Speaker 3: all the same. But my mother thinks that I should

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Speaker 3: think about the boy.

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Speaker 1: Oh we went.

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Speaker 3: From so reenda am I the a whole And there's

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Speaker 3: a quick edit. I saw someone commenting about the use

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Speaker 3: of describing of it to describe a child.

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Speaker 1: That's what we were talking about.

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Speaker 3: It's a mistranslation on my part, using neutral form for

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Speaker 3: a child not considered bad or dehumanizing in Swedish. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I did not realize the connotation it would.

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Speaker 2: Have in English. So this guy doesn't speak.

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Speaker 1: You were absolved, my Swedish friend, I absolve you.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 4: You know who accepted a child who wasn't his Joseph?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, say big Josie in a building.

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Speaker 4: He turned out to be Jesus. Wow, I'm really rubbing

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Speaker 4: off on her. Okay, Riley, I went to fourteen years

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Speaker 4: of this yeah, stop stop. Okay, I can know a

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Speaker 4: lot about religion and be agnostic.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're just gonna fuel the fire of people thinking

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Speaker 1: y'all are in a relationship.

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Speaker 3: That is the end of the story. It is the

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Speaker 3: absolute end of the story. And the real question that

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Speaker 3: I have for you all is is Opie the a.

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Speaker 2: Hole or not?

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Speaker 3: Put in the comments below for not wanting to stay

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Speaker 3: with the child.

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Speaker 1: He's definitely not the a hole. But like here, M

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Speaker 1: Kim has a good point. You can still visit the child.

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Speaker 1: Revoking praternity is not no con.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking you should still play a role, but he

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Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily have to play it like a financial role.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, he can be like an uncle, you know,