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Speaker 1: episode of the Blackfat Film Podcast where all the intersections
Speaker 1: of identity are celebrated. I am your host, Doctor John Paul,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna even fuck with y'all. This like
Speaker 1: today normally got a whole little intro and a whole
Speaker 1: little situation the things.
Speaker 2: That I do.
Speaker 1: But we are here with the god father of podcasting,
Speaker 1: and I just I just like, what a moment. What
Speaker 1: I'm in the words of Whitney Houston, what a moment?
Speaker 1: What with this most pleasing to me? What is most
Speaker 1: pleasing to me? But how are you, doll?
Speaker 2: We're gonna jump in well, I mean, honestly, y'all same fam.
Speaker 2: What's good is Jourdan or Joe Hoo, your illustrious mistress
Speaker 2: co hostess. And this truly is a career highlight.
Speaker 3: Like I'm very very excited, Like I really cannot even
Speaker 3: I really like when you walked down and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: let me be like a nice, proper girl, correct nice
Speaker 3: person that yeah, yeah, really you just like like give it.
Speaker 3: I mean, as we go on, like I promise I'll
Speaker 3: be good. But I really am so and so gratefully
Speaker 3: here with us.
Speaker 2: But John, let them.
Speaker 1: Know who the fuck it is. Today, my God in heaven,
Speaker 1: we have the one and only Kid Fury with us
Speaker 1: on the Black Fat Film Podcast today. How are you, sis,
Speaker 1: I'm good, good good, Like the joy is just you're
Speaker 1: just radiating so much joy and it is just so
Speaker 1: I'm so so so so like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, here also named.
Speaker 1: Night Almond Joy. Do you just turn over and eat
Speaker 1: the almond.
Speaker 2: Joy just like it's just on your pillow?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I must also say this is also y'all. What's
Speaker 3: different this time is that John are.
Speaker 2: Are in the studio together. This is the first time
Speaker 2: we'll give them to the podcast in the studio together.
Speaker 3: Shout to memo cast being in the studio today, and
Speaker 3: they is our first in person guess we've had.
Speaker 4: To do recording with.
Speaker 2: So this is truly momentous all around. So thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for me.
Speaker 1: My God, what a moment, a moment, what a moment.
Speaker 1: So we're going to kick off our show so every
Speaker 1: week for those who are new that listen to the show,
Speaker 1: for those who are watching for the first time, we
Speaker 1: kick off our show every week where we give our
Speaker 1: flowers to Tisha Campbell and our segment calls still here.
Speaker 1: I'm here, Yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Queen is coming up and I'm.
Speaker 1: Thinking we were hold up, Actually, you should do it.
Speaker 4: Do it. I haven't seen anyone do it.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't know it has that would be I think
Speaker 1: you should the black outfit.
Speaker 2: Listen with the.
Speaker 3: Okay dellow crop jacket.
Speaker 1: Please do it, do it?
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 2: Crazy say everything.
Speaker 3: I kind of One day she listens to this podcast
Speaker 3: and realizes that, like, we do this every week because
Speaker 3: we love her, right right, It's not this is not
Speaker 3: shade like we honestly like we love for like initially
Speaker 3: when we when we shop this show, like the music
Speaker 3: was supposed to be it would have been if we
Speaker 3: could have cleared it, and the rights would have been.
Speaker 1: The music to play at the beginning of this of
Speaker 1: this segment. So yes, we are definitely huge, and you
Speaker 1: know what, stranger things have happened.
Speaker 2: Yes, after this episode she hears it and she's like, no,
Speaker 2: I get the rights. Get the rights.
Speaker 1: Listen and I would cry. I literally would cry, right yeah,
Speaker 1: if you are listening, we would love the rights. But
Speaker 1: with that being said, we are going to jump into
Speaker 1: this segment and we are going to ask as we start,
Speaker 1: who are if you if you could name two comedians
Speaker 1: who helped kind of center your comedy e E, who
Speaker 1: would those comedians be? And then Joeho, I'll throw it
Speaker 1: to you and then I'll.
Speaker 4: Go, Okay. So I think it's actually great that we're
Speaker 4: talking about Tisha in the seriousness of how important she
Speaker 4: is because the two people I would name, one's Martin
Speaker 4: Lawrence Martin, you know, from the stage, like from stand
Speaker 4: up on the stage, transitioning into network television. I think
Speaker 4: he's just truly truly iconic on both levels and created
Speaker 4: things that have just transitioned from one generation to the
Speaker 4: next generation. And but the thing about Martin is, as
Speaker 4: a thirty six year old, like, it's just that everything
Speaker 4: about it encapsulates like my childhood at lessons for the style,
Speaker 4: the colors, the the way that we were as black
Speaker 4: people freer to just communicate as us on network TV
Speaker 4: was really gorgeous. But my favorite, favorite, favorite, favorite thing
Speaker 4: about that sitcom, especially when you compare it to a
Speaker 4: lot of other sitcoms led by stand up comics, Martin,
Speaker 4: every single performer stood out lead, supporting, recurring. Every single
Speaker 4: character on that show was a standout. Tisha Campbell to
Speaker 4: she and everyone was doing the work, yeah, to make
Speaker 4: that thing iconic and memorable for the ages. And the
Speaker 4: other person I would say is Evettlee Bowser. Yes, Living
Speaker 4: Single another iconic show that really gave you a lot
Speaker 4: of other shows like it, you know, namely a show
Speaker 4: called Friends, which then you know itself, I guess inspired
Speaker 4: to hold a bunch of other mediocre, mediocre white shows,
Speaker 4: but Living Single is another one. Again, from the communications
Speaker 4: of the style to the performances of every character, it
Speaker 4: is just such a powerful thing that to this day,
Speaker 4: both of those shows I still watch, I still crack
Speaker 4: and I'm still incredibly impressed by the work that everybody
Speaker 4: did on those shows, performing, writing, and.
Speaker 1: What I love about you sharing about Living Singles. So
Speaker 1: I never knew, actually until like maybe a couple of
Speaker 1: like maybe I would say months ago that I guess, uh,
Speaker 1: the Max Max's character was never supposed to be on
Speaker 1: the show, Like that was a whole Yeah, never supposed to.
Speaker 1: They didn't want Max on the show. And Lawyer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the reason why they have her quote unquote
Speaker 1: being the neighbor across the street is because they were
Speaker 1: trying to basically write her out of the show, and
Speaker 1: I actually fought for it and said, if you don't
Speaker 1: have Max, you don't have a show. So shout out
Speaker 1: to both you know, I go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: It was brilliant that she lived across the street but
Speaker 4: was still a central part of Yeah. Yeah usually just
Speaker 4: find some way for her to live in the building
Speaker 4: to or live upstairs, and it was iconic that she
Speaker 4: was as like accomplished and strong and outspoken that she was,
Speaker 4: but she was also the friend that was going to
Speaker 4: leave her house and always be in your house. Again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have all have that person person.
Speaker 1: I always say, if I live closer to Joho, I
Speaker 1: would always be at her house eating that I would
Speaker 1: be mad. Yeah, I would be Max if I literally
Speaker 1: lived near you, vice versa, if you live closer than me,
Speaker 1: you would have When.
Speaker 4: They came in with some girl streets and Max Wicks,
Speaker 4: she just bust in the house and started went through.
Speaker 4: She got the oreoles and was like, y'all didn't get
Speaker 4: the double stuck, Like you didn't what you don't even even.
Speaker 1: I live, I live, What about you? Johoker.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I love I love your answer because your
Speaker 3: answers I feel like they wan like like they're rooted
Speaker 3: in like like a really historical context for like for
Speaker 3: black comedies. So I feel a little bit silly that,
Speaker 3: like like mine isn't it isn't as like thoughtful. But
Speaker 3: I really, I really, I really loved I really love
Speaker 3: Natasha Rothwell so so much like I think like her
Speaker 3: like like like her comedy, her writing, and I know
Speaker 3: she wouldn't listly. I know she would as as as
Speaker 3: a comedian like some who does stand up, but like
Speaker 3: her writing is so brilliant, So what's about her acting
Speaker 3: is amazing?
Speaker 2: Like she and buys the character so well.
Speaker 3: I like, as we discussed last episode, she has so
Speaker 3: much range, right, like going going from Kelly to to
Speaker 3: Melinda White Lotus to to Melissa.
Speaker 2: Uh and how did I alone? Like the range is amazing.
Speaker 3: I feel like I never feel like I never feel
Speaker 3: tired of watching her. And I mean like, and Kelly's
Speaker 3: a character I can watch number like I will often
Speaker 3: quote I quote Kelly often like in this.
Speaker 1: I did like walka it was it was cute. That's
Speaker 1: the word the one with yes yes but I don't
Speaker 1: like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because she's not.
Speaker 1: She was also in love Simon to Oh, yes, I
Speaker 1: forgot that there was there was one other movie that
Speaker 1: she was in where she was a pivotal part of
Speaker 1: the of the movie.
Speaker 2: I forget.
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, I know I've seen again to your point
Speaker 1: at yes, like like there's no.
Speaker 3: Role and like in which she can't do. And I
Speaker 3: really just love the way she commits to the work.
Speaker 3: And also I think her, like again, let me to
Speaker 3: her writing.
Speaker 2: Her genius is really there.
Speaker 3: I also really love I don't have to say his
Speaker 3: last name, so I'm gonna say it's Jay Jorden, Jay Jardon.
Speaker 1: I take.
Speaker 2: It's like just his delivery is really good, like he
Speaker 2: I think, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't do a lot of comedians like that, but
Speaker 3: I think it's a livery is fantastic. I just did recently.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, this man is just like really
Speaker 3: funny and kept going into it. Feel like in a
Speaker 3: way that like really dances on the line of what's
Speaker 3: good or like what's not good to do, like, especially
Speaker 3: especially as a queer black person. So I really enjoy
Speaker 3: his stuff, and then I would definitely do like like
Speaker 3: I mentioned for Michelle Buteux, I think.
Speaker 2: She does.
Speaker 1: Like you think you said to.
Speaker 2: Like, I just can like everything she does.
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, what how do you think of this?
Speaker 3: And yes, I want I want a new special, I
Speaker 3: want the thickest like I just I live from listen
Speaker 3: to this girl, please watch Yes.
Speaker 1: And if you have not read her book, I her
Speaker 1: book is fantastic. Her book is absolutely fantastic. I will
Speaker 1: say chapters I think is chapter three and chapter five
Speaker 1: for me is like it's just it's really interesting to
Speaker 1: see someone be able to kind of take themselves out
Speaker 1: of the industry and kind of give that roundabout look
Speaker 1: of like what she's going through in the industry, and
Speaker 1: also like still infuse her life into it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: she just has a way with words, but I that
Speaker 1: woman is everything to me. Like I've met her maybe
Speaker 1: once or twice, and she's always been so she's one
Speaker 1: of the people in the industry like yourself, where her
Speaker 1: name supersedes her like when you mentioned her name, people
Speaker 1: have always said that she's a great person.
Speaker 2: Everything's okay, And.
Speaker 1: She's friends with Francesca friends of the show, so that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Francesca Ramsey you know that.
Speaker 4: Is let me tell you something, flowers. Yes, we're giving them.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, come on, black excellence just.
Speaker 4: I mean, talented in so many ways, Barry that stand
Speaker 4: up comedy, comedy, writing, singing, like, she's so incredibly well
Speaker 4: rounded and informed and has the most gorgeous spiritual.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yes, yeah, when you walk into a room
Speaker 1: you immediately feel it human. Such a great person.
Speaker 4: She's a great person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, Like more people should be like her, like genuinely,
Speaker 1: and I say that from the heart of hearts. Like
Speaker 1: and if you also like light plug, if you have
Speaker 1: not gotten her wallpaper, what are you doing like her
Speaker 1: wallpaper and all of the stuff that she just releases,
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 4: Each of these people, yes say this in a complimentary way.
Speaker 4: They're freaks. Is a freak like they just like, I'm like,
Speaker 4: what can you not do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: M h yeah, that makes a lot of sense speaking
Speaker 1: of women that that I adorse. So I will always
Speaker 1: say so, I'm probably gonna get canceled for my two,
Speaker 1: but I get canceled on this show all the time.
Speaker 1: I get trouble for everything I say, child, so don't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I get trouble for everything. So number one woman
Speaker 1: who could just make me laugh from just just being herself.
Speaker 1: Lunel will always be top tier, my favorite want me
Speaker 1: to watch, whether it be in front of a mic,
Speaker 1: whether it be a special, whether it be a show I.
Speaker 4: Just want to go to.
Speaker 1: I know it's fun. I know it's the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, you need to make me want to
Speaker 4: be watching her head.
Speaker 1: I know it's I know it's good. I know it's good.
Speaker 1: So Lunell always I So I got a chance to
Speaker 1: see her during the Netflix is a joke and her
Speaker 1: her whole entire set problematic a f but it was good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give that lady her flowers because that woman
Speaker 1: is fun me. And then second to that may he
Speaker 1: may he rest well, you know what. So two of
Speaker 1: the people that I name, they're no longer with us,
Speaker 1: but I feel like their spirit. If you really get
Speaker 1: to know me, and you know me, you'll go, okay,
Speaker 1: I see it. Bernie Mack and Paul Mooney are very
Speaker 1: much my other two. If you really get to know me,
Speaker 1: you know, the word nigga is my favorite word literally
Speaker 1: everything to me, Like there's not like the Bernie mac show.
Speaker 1: Genius writing in terms of the sitcom Paul Mooney, like
Speaker 1: him being able to take social justice issues and being
Speaker 1: able to make them funny but also so raw and
Speaker 1: thought provoking enough to where even you, as a black person,
Speaker 1: he was like, Oh, I never thought about that, Like
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I loved them Paul Mooney, whether it was through
Speaker 4: his own work and or you know, building with Richard pryor, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: Paul Mooney did this beautiful thing where he would say
Speaker 4: the thing in this crowd of white faces and make
Speaker 4: them eat it. Oh yeah, they would just have to
Speaker 4: eat it, and they would just have to eat it,
Speaker 4: but also laugh because the ship.
Speaker 1: Was funny, funny, but he was essentially.
Speaker 4: Reading reading everybody. He was saying the thing, and he
Speaker 4: said it a little bit of sauce.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I loves yeah, Paul Mooney.
Speaker 1: What May he Rest in peace forever is just the
Speaker 1: quintessential what I believe, Like, if you are wanting to
Speaker 1: do comedy, and we're gonna get into that in a second,
Speaker 1: but if you want to do comedy, like those are
Speaker 1: the folks that you really should start to study and
Speaker 1: really look into and start thinking about, like how do
Speaker 1: you frame your comedy? Like Paul Mooney Bernie mac lunell,
Speaker 1: anybody and everybody, I mean even Queen Latifa to an extent,
Speaker 1: right like coming back to like Living Single, her her
Speaker 1: comedic timing, like study all.
Speaker 4: Of the intense one of Erica. Alexander posted a clip
Speaker 4: from Living Single the other day and it was like
Speaker 4: it was when Max and Kyle like kind of just
Speaker 4: started to date and he came up there and asked
Speaker 4: her out on a date after she just talked all
Speaker 4: his kind of shit about him, and he like pulled
Speaker 4: her shoe out that she left at the house and
Speaker 4: slammed it on like the side of the roof or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: everyone's reaction was a little different, Yeah, but Cadizha just was.
Speaker 1: Like you can see them wanting to break, yes, all
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh god, what a moment. I would like, I
Speaker 1: really genuinely wish we could go back to that time
Speaker 1: in history of like TV and film because okay, we
Speaker 1: can studying.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So I feel like y'all can go on
Speaker 3: with this, and I really really want that for both y'all,
Speaker 3: but we do have to take a quick break. So
Speaker 3: while y'all throw tomatoes at John for their last choices,
Speaker 3: we will take one one Little Quickie will be back
Speaker 3: with more with the pog God themselves Kid Fury more than.
Speaker 2: A sec.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all. So for today's category is we are
Speaker 1: sitting down with the pod God and we are talking about, uh,
Speaker 1: this idea of how do we take what's going on
Speaker 1: in the world and utilize that as content? And so
Speaker 1: in this segment that we're calling laugh at My Pain,
Speaker 1: we want to talk about Kid Fury, and we want
Speaker 1: to talk about their comedy and even talking about the
Speaker 1: tour that they have coming up. So before we get
Speaker 1: into the tour and before we dive in, and we
Speaker 1: really started talking about kind of what inspired you to
Speaker 1: go on this this what I'm calling, well, or at
Speaker 1: least what I'm manifesting, is a war a world tour.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, like, how did you find
Speaker 1: all the stuff that was going on around you funny?
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure a lot of it was heavy and
Speaker 1: a lot of it probably impacted you in different ways,
Speaker 1: and so how did you kind of, you know, just
Speaker 1: being really being transparent, like, how did you pull yourself
Speaker 1: out of that moment where you're looking around and you're going,
Speaker 1: ain't shit funny? But now I'm gonna still find a
Speaker 1: reason to make y'all laugh about it.
Speaker 4: It was a good question. I think that by the
Speaker 4: time I decided to turn the experience of my suicide
Speaker 4: attempt last year into a stand up show, I was
Speaker 4: kind of already laughing at it. But by that point,
Speaker 4: you know, I had been in the hospital, I'd been
Speaker 4: in you know, this post hospital program. I've been you know,
Speaker 4: and constant as I still am constant communication with my
Speaker 4: psychiatrist and my mom and stuff. So I was kind
Speaker 4: of already in the process of healing by the time
Speaker 4: I started writing so it. I don't know. I think
Speaker 4: just addressing the issue had on and committing to recovery,
Speaker 4: as scary as it was, was kind of what set
Speaker 4: the foundation for me to be able to laugh at
Speaker 4: it and joke at about it. But like, my humor
Speaker 4: is already so self deprecating in everything, so I never
Speaker 4: really had a problem telling the story or making a
Speaker 4: joke about it. I figured I would. But yeah, once
Speaker 4: I kind of started to feel grounded again after the experience,
Speaker 4: and you know, like I was coming out of the dark.
Speaker 4: If you will, I feel you, yeah, I feel that, like, Okay, well,
Speaker 4: what's my assignment and what do I make out of it?
Speaker 4: And that's how it's.
Speaker 1: I know, that's right. Yeah, I asked.
Speaker 3: The answer is really meaningful one for me on a
Speaker 3: personal level because when I was younger, I went through
Speaker 3: I then through a societem as well too, And I
Speaker 3: like when I tell a story about it to me,
Speaker 3: it's funny and people are like, that's right.
Speaker 2: I'm like, she's just sure.
Speaker 3: But like also like I fucking like broke my clauset
Speaker 3: doing it like it's funny.
Speaker 2: I'm almost fun than me. She's a girl, right, but
Speaker 2: it's funny.
Speaker 3: But I and so that I have a questions I
Speaker 3: was gonna be ask you about about your career process.
Speaker 3: You do want to ask you, but I also want
Speaker 3: me I'd like, you know, they got part two of it,
Speaker 3: So one I would love to hear more about, like
Speaker 3: your career process with me the tour, like you know,
Speaker 3: what was it she make make a material who helped
Speaker 3: you along?
Speaker 2: Helped you along the way, But also what.
Speaker 3: About the tour like like might actually also be part
Speaker 3: of the like recovery and healing process.
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good question. I think everyone's process
Speaker 4: in writing comedy for the stage is different. I think
Speaker 4: I was fortunate here as opposed to when I was
Speaker 4: touring stand up before, because this was so much about
Speaker 4: history and an experience that I kind of just ran
Speaker 4: through what happened and found the funny in the moments.
Speaker 4: And there was a lot of it because this took
Speaker 4: place at Coachella, so like wow, okay, like of course,
Speaker 4: if you'll watched the video, the faces making yeah yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean so there was a lot to say, not
Speaker 4: even just about that because for me and I think
Speaker 4: this is just the way that my mind works, there
Speaker 4: was a lot of zooming out that took place in
Speaker 4: the actual career, a process and asking myself, well, why
Speaker 4: did we act, why did we react this way? Why
Speaker 4: did we feel this thing? Why did we wear that?
Speaker 4: You know? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Make it makes sense girl? Yeah, yeah, it makes sense girl, right.
Speaker 4: And so I think like mucking around and all of
Speaker 4: that was what helped me kind of carve the story
Speaker 4: out itself. And then the healing part of it, I
Speaker 4: think is just I always use this word like incessantly assignment.
Speaker 4: I feel like people in my life are probably tired
Speaker 4: of like I do feel a sort of spiritual assignment
Speaker 4: to communication, and I felt like, I don't know immediately,
Speaker 4: once I got the strength to start writing or just
Speaker 4: feel like I could laugh about it, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is meant for me to share with others because
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem laughing about it. I know
Speaker 4: of a problem making fun of myself in this situation,
Speaker 4: but I think that for many other people who are
Speaker 4: going through the same thing, and many people, many people
Speaker 4: don't get as far as I might ask.
Speaker 1: But there yeah, or are just pestered by the ideation constantly.
Speaker 4: And so I was like, well, I'm gonna just be
Speaker 4: the fool that I am, the natural dymass that I am,
Speaker 4: and make fun of my situation, be honest about it,
Speaker 4: and hopefully it can connect with other people who can
Speaker 4: see what like, all right, this thing happened to him
Speaker 4: and he's able to joke about it. I don't really
Speaker 4: know what fun I think that is the healing part
Speaker 4: of it for me, and the people who have graciously
Speaker 4: seen it so far said like, all this really meant
Speaker 4: a lot to me. I'm going through something very similar.
Speaker 2: I also think it provides a really different different.
Speaker 3: Like like like narrative in the story that people tell,
Speaker 3: like like about about folks who attend self harm and
Speaker 3: survive self harm, because stories we tell is like then
Speaker 3: that person is like the person is like is like
Speaker 3: plugged by it, and they're like like and they're like
Speaker 3: they're like they're forever said never joyful again, which is
Speaker 3: like like so untrue and so and so I imagine for
Speaker 3: folks as as maybe for them if it's jarring for
Speaker 3: them that that you're that you're making it, you're building,
Speaker 3: you built a combat tour around it. It's also like
Speaker 3: like this actually could also be allowed to so you
Speaker 3: don't have to you don't have to live in that pain.
Speaker 2: You you can do something different about that and make
Speaker 2: it something else. And that's really really incredible. So thank
Speaker 2: you for sharing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I and I was gonna say to your point,
Speaker 1: I think one of the things I I even in
Speaker 1: my own like you know, going through it and going back,
Speaker 1: sometimes people will act about my own attempts when I
Speaker 1: was younger, and you know, even up to I was
Speaker 1: even saying like, up till a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: I was still in the mind of like I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm supposed to be here but I think
Speaker 1: that they're you know, to that word assignment. I think
Speaker 1: that's something that we all kind of battle with because
Speaker 1: the whole purpose, I guess, of our life is asking
Speaker 1: the question of like why am I here? Yeah, when
Speaker 1: am I here what I've been called to do? Why
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do it? And I even think about,
Speaker 1: you know, the little moments and me and Joho know this,
Speaker 1: like where folks will reach out to us and we'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, your show did this or you said this
Speaker 1: on the show and it helped. And so I'm I'm
Speaker 1: imagining that there's someone who goes to your show their
Speaker 1: heart is heavy, right, and they're feeling like everything is
Speaker 1: you know, what's going on around them, and then you
Speaker 1: give them that ability to just kind of say, actually,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's bad, but it's not all bad, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that that, for me, is what's so
Speaker 1: beautiful about you, you utilizing your platform that you have
Speaker 1: to remind people of that. And so I was gonna ask, like,
Speaker 1: how did you get to the title life is Better?
Speaker 1: How did you land on that being kind of the
Speaker 1: soul topic of your show? Because you could have went
Speaker 1: with it anywhere right, and really thinking about like how
Speaker 1: how does that tie into your life being better?
Speaker 4: Now? So the show was initially when I first wrote
Speaker 4: it and performed it, I called it sometimes Dead is Better.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, dark Okay, Now why this used to be
Speaker 1: a part.
Speaker 4: I used to explain this in the show when I
Speaker 4: started touring it, and obviously the name was differently A
Speaker 4: few people, I guess did it the title. So I
Speaker 4: say that when I would say that to the show,
Speaker 4: a lot of people would be like, oh, girls, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I thought this ship was funny, but I oh she
Speaker 4: Like a lot of my followers are not big horror fans. Yeah,
Speaker 4: pet Cemetery, Okay, it's a very classic like the line
Speaker 4: of the book and film is sometimes dead is Better.
Speaker 4: When talking about this, for naturally, I remember that brings
Speaker 4: people to lie. I remember that, and so I think
Speaker 4: that like that was the name of it because I
Speaker 4: was making fun of my mindset at the time, also
Speaker 4: like paying homage to this, and people were also in
Speaker 4: the throws. I've just been out of the hospital. I
Speaker 4: was feeling, you know, better than I do where I
Speaker 4: went in the hospital. But again to the point of
Speaker 4: like assignment and purpose and like why am I here?
Speaker 4: Why did I survive the attempt? Blah blah blah. It
Speaker 4: was different than when I, you know, went back and
Speaker 4: punched up jokes and lived more. And the reason I
Speaker 4: think that I changed it to life is Better. First
Speaker 4: of all, keep in mind, I met Beyonce between those titles.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, right, so yeah, yeah, life is better? Yea
Speaker 1: and we and we so before you even walked in here,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's put a pause there, like we
Speaker 1: were like, how do we ask that question without it
Speaker 1: coming across as if the whole interview is just about
Speaker 1: you meeting Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Because it's not, because it's not.
Speaker 1: This is really about in all, sup right, But like.
Speaker 4: We have like we like we have to like no
Speaker 4: way to act like journalistically, like you have to ask
Speaker 4: it's gonna be like so it doesn't make sense to
Speaker 4: not like how do you not? But also like yes,
Speaker 4: it is an import but if you want to share, yes,
Speaker 4: you bets in between, right, we get in between these titles,
Speaker 4: and I still would to get to life is better?
Speaker 1: But how did it meeting Beyonce make your life better?
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. First of all, I met Beyonce
Speaker 4: like what.
Speaker 2: We're going to say.
Speaker 4: You can't say yeah full side, you have to keep mind.
Speaker 4: Krystal and I were asked to be a part of
Speaker 4: an ad for one of her latest business ventures, and
Speaker 4: then we were asked to come to an event that
Speaker 4: she was at, and then we were asked to come
Speaker 4: into a private room and meet her. Based off of
Speaker 4: and I feel like, I like, I'm not gonna cry,
Speaker 4: but like I feel emotion now I'm just talking about it,
Speaker 4: based off of me being this quirky, loudmouth queer Jamaican
Speaker 4: American you know, former bullied you know now I'll beat
Speaker 4: your ass type of whoever, yes, give it, give it, yeah,
Speaker 4: kid who just moved to New York and was like, friend,
Speaker 4: will you do this thing with me when we're talking shit?
Speaker 4: And it it allowed me an opportunity to communicate someone
Speaker 4: who I don't just admire as a pop star, but
Speaker 4: I admire. I say this all the time. I admire
Speaker 4: her work at the saying I admire how much she
Speaker 4: I admire how much she means am I okay, let
Speaker 4: me reword this. I admire how much she knows how
Speaker 4: much she means to you know what I mean that
Speaker 4: I've always always admired her, and so I think that
Speaker 4: it was just like I was so emotional about that
Speaker 4: because I was like nigga people, And I think I
Speaker 4: said this on the podcast, people like y'all and everybody
Speaker 4: else who have been a part of this journey for us,
Speaker 4: with us for over a decade, crowd surfed us into
Speaker 4: this room to meet this lady. Yeah, And so that,
Speaker 4: I say is a part of it because it was
Speaker 4: a reminder that I'm not just my mama's baby and
Speaker 4: my daddy's baby, which I've also been able to buy
Speaker 4: virtue of being myself experienced things that people would only
Speaker 4: dream of experiencing. That along with things like my best
Speaker 4: friend having her first child and being able to see
Speaker 4: him grow month by month by month, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, little time things like building bonds with my siblings,
Speaker 4: all of these things. I'm like, I don't know what's
Speaker 4: on the other side of right right right, right, right,
Speaker 4: right right, But I think I prefer the fact that
Speaker 4: I'm here getting to experience these little things. Even though
Speaker 4: life still ain't ship and it's still.
Speaker 1: Oh honey, let's talk about.
Speaker 4: It, plagued with constant nonsense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like me having to pay twenty dollars to park
Speaker 1: across the street. I'm still pissed off about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still pissed, but it is what it is. But yes,
Speaker 1: to your point, I feel you.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 2: I understand, guess is six ninety nine a gallon out here?
Speaker 4: What is?
Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot going on, And so I'm just
Speaker 4: like screaming. That's the thing about life is better to
Speaker 4: me is that it's not. I don't find the show
Speaker 4: to be necessarily optimistic right right right experience, And personally, I'm.
Speaker 1: Glad I'm not dead, No, and I'm i I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to save We're gonna get to it
Speaker 1: in a minute later down in the show, but I'm
Speaker 1: trying to save it, and I'm just I'm glad. I
Speaker 1: am glad. I want to say this, like and all
Speaker 1: of the funny of this. I am glad you're still
Speaker 1: here because I don't think you would know. And I'll
Speaker 1: share with you later of how you inspired me, but
Speaker 1: I would have never gotten to tell you how much
Speaker 1: you've inspired me and the show and a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff I do. And and also on top of that,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would have been able to know
Speaker 1: people that I know that know and are very close
Speaker 1: and connected to you, like my friendship with Chris and Nick,
Speaker 1: Xavier Delo, my friendship with Jade, like my friendship with
Speaker 1: with quite a few people who are in your circle.
Speaker 1: I just I'm grateful that you're still here to inspire
Speaker 1: all of us to do what we do. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to say.
Speaker 3: That, you know, in the in the same vein that
Speaker 3: you said you appreciate that Beyonce knows what she means
Speaker 3: to people, I really do hope that you know what
Speaker 3: you mean to people as well too.
Speaker 4: That's the thing that's coming off of this. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've always really really appreciated people paying any kind of
Speaker 4: attention to anything, from whatever number of people it is,
Speaker 4: and I think that's also been a huge part of
Speaker 4: what's giving me anxiety.
Speaker 2: Be perfect.
Speaker 4: And like now I've learned to accept that I'm enough
Speaker 4: in who I am give myself a break. And I
Speaker 4: also am like accepting that my voice matters yea, and
Speaker 4: people appreciate it. And that's a one of a lifetime
Speaker 4: kind of thing. And it's such a freakish bless it is.
Speaker 3: It's it's a super it's a heavy thing to carry,
Speaker 3: like when someone tells you that, like and I want
Speaker 3: to like acknowledge, like I know it's heavy and I
Speaker 3: and so like when I say that, I hope you
Speaker 3: know how much mean to others.
Speaker 2: I like, I don't want to say it to frighten you,
Speaker 2: because I know it's because.
Speaker 3: Beautiful and like interally like you like you but both
Speaker 3: you and Crystal and and like and the re itself
Speaker 3: like those are you know, three individual things that means
Speaker 3: so much to too many people and to people who
Speaker 3: are right here you really it's so special and I
Speaker 3: think you know, so that comes to mind because like
Speaker 3: like as you you know, as you're as you as
Speaker 3: you're shaying something of like the the idea that as
Speaker 3: young black queer people or do you guys people on
Speaker 3: society anyways, we're also this idea that like like like
Speaker 3: they all gets better with age, but no one and
Speaker 3: like you know, like yes, like time time he knows
Speaker 3: everything I wasnt says, but like but there but there
Speaker 3: isn't as focused. There isn't smucial focus as like like
Speaker 3: life gets better like also when you make it so
Speaker 3: and having the tools to make it so, and no
Speaker 3: one talks about like what we have to endure and
Speaker 3: endure to to do it, Like like life, life gets better,
Speaker 3: but you also have to fight for it to get better,
Speaker 3: and to fight to fight for yourself.
Speaker 2: You got you got, you gotta fight for others.
Speaker 3: Which is why I think the of life the title
Speaker 3: life is better is so is so beautiful because it's
Speaker 3: also like a like it's like, uh, it sounds like
Speaker 3: a declaration and it sounds like a decoration, and it
Speaker 3: also sounds like a promise that you're like that, and
Speaker 3: and maybe I'm.
Speaker 2: Going way too deep in it. I feel like, thank you.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's it's it sounds like a promise
Speaker 3: that you're making yourself of like life is better and
Speaker 3: I'm making it so and so.
Speaker 1: And you're telling other people that that's possible. I think
Speaker 1: that's the get. And that's the thing I'll even say
Speaker 1: like sometimes like to your point about it has to
Speaker 1: be perfect, I'm that so so joho, if you if
Speaker 1: you learn anything about us, Joe's very is good. Let's
Speaker 1: go with the flow. Everything is great, and I'm the girl.
Speaker 1: Numbers mean things like we gotta look at the money
Speaker 1: and I'm the very business acumen of the Black Fatfem podcast. Wow,
Speaker 1: she's very much kind of the everything's gonna work the
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to, Everything's gonna be good. And so
Speaker 1: I feel that more than you ever know. But I
Speaker 1: definitely think like you're giving people the space and the
Speaker 1: place to be able to say like shit is and
Speaker 1: and a kitchen. People look at us and think that
Speaker 1: everything is gravy, and I'm like, girl, if you only
Speaker 1: knew half of the shit we've had to go through
Speaker 1: to get to this spot, right. But I say all
Speaker 1: of that to say, like leaving here for me, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be driving home going like wow, like
Speaker 1: like thinking about where I was maybe five or six
Speaker 1: years ago to this point where I'm interviewing the person
Speaker 1: who literally helped like inspired me to put my deck together,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's crazy, Like that's crazy. But it goes
Speaker 1: to show that, yes, life does get better, Like it
Speaker 1: really does get better.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I'll be honest because like
Speaker 4: life does get better.
Speaker 1: I should say life is yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: No, I'm like, because we always heard it gets.
Speaker 1: It gets better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and then it's worked sometimes and it gets better.
Speaker 4: Like life is a roller coaster, it is peaks and
Speaker 4: like I literally tell my Thpade sometimes I'm in a
Speaker 4: valley right now or whatever, you know.
Speaker 5: Not me being a San Fernando right right, nothing me
Speaker 5: down to San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot rough over here.
Speaker 4: I'm like visiting that life just has potential, right, life
Speaker 4: just has never ending potential. Is beautifully unpredictable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I So I guess the kind of you know, we're
Speaker 1: kind of winding down on this segment and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna move into kind of another segment where
Speaker 1: we talk about healing a little bit more. But I
Speaker 1: do want to ask, you know, thinking about like you
Speaker 1: and and you know and Crystal and the show and
Speaker 1: all of that, I think sometimes many of us who
Speaker 1: are now and I'm I'm I'm positing us as public
Speaker 1: figures because I got niggas running up to me on
Speaker 1: the street like it's it's it's it blows my mind
Speaker 1: at moments. But people see us, right, And so when
Speaker 1: you are, I'm sure the same thing for you. You're just
Speaker 1: trying to live your life and hey, gets here, you're
Speaker 1: like girl, I'm just trying to get some coffee. They're
Speaker 1: they're you know, being being deemed a public figure and
Speaker 1: then oftentimes having people in the industry say you're too
Speaker 1: emotional or that you're loose cannon because you're talking very
Speaker 1: openly about your experience. Can I ask how being public
Speaker 1: about your mental health has helped your life get better?
Speaker 1: M M.
Speaker 4: I think that it's just one of those things where, hmm,
Speaker 4: I don't know how to word is. Again, I have
Speaker 4: a bit of a self deprecating sense of humor sometimes,
Speaker 4: and I think that it's a way for me to
Speaker 4: just kind of find fun in my imperfection. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: I just I get, you know, my mental health is
Speaker 4: an imperfection. You know. It's not you know, my decision
Speaker 4: or choice for my mind to work the way that
Speaker 4: it is. But it's the way that it is, yea.
Speaker 4: And all that I can do is find the best
Speaker 4: ways to manage it. And so I think it's just
Speaker 4: helpful because it's been a way for me to almost like,
Speaker 4: I guess think of it as almost like coming out.
Speaker 4: It's almost a way for you to just be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: and I'm crazy. It's a way for me to just
Speaker 4: wear it and just rather than you know, sweeping it
Speaker 4: on a rug or putting in a closet and been
Speaker 4: attributing like shame or embarrassment or something.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's a thing.
Speaker 4: And I once I accepted that, you know, it's normal,
Speaker 4: and many, many, many people are experiencing it to varying degrees. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was easier for me to.
Speaker 1: I love that so much. And shout out to our
Speaker 1: effects her and our Vallefaxine baddies and all the girls
Speaker 1: who are on the blue peels and on the white
Speaker 1: PILs and on the pills general girl. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: come on now, yes, yes, so shout out to daddy. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: shut out. I couldn't do sol spiked my blood pressure,
Speaker 1: but we are right now.
Speaker 2: It's all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess the the final question that I
Speaker 3: want to ask, and you know, I want to ask
Speaker 3: a little bit of maybe advice you give to to folks,
Speaker 3: to our listeners, you know, for anyone who was thinking
Speaker 3: about using comedy as as a vehicle for their healing,
Speaker 3: what might you what might be able to offer in
Speaker 3: terms of how how do they how how could they what?
Speaker 3: You know, maybe maybe by some challenges you face in
Speaker 3: doing so, how can they learn and grow? How can
Speaker 3: they find how can they like maybe find like find
Speaker 3: their killing And I want to I want to feel
Speaker 3: like I'm not actually some people problems. I know you're
Speaker 3: not therapist, don't like know my issues, but like you know,
Speaker 3: like like what worked.
Speaker 1: For you, like I.
Speaker 4: Mean from like a performance standpoint, really and in general,
Speaker 4: I think comedy using comedy to heal. I I suppose
Speaker 4: I would say look for the truth first, because the
Speaker 4: truth is the funniest thing. And I guess like the
Speaker 4: more like authentic and honest and vulnerable you can be
Speaker 4: about life experiences in general, yours everywhere around you, I think,
Speaker 4: the easier it is for you to kind of find
Speaker 4: the like the question of I think, like we were
Speaker 4: saying before, like well why is this and where is this?
Speaker 4: And how is it? You know, and then you know
Speaker 4: begin to laugh from there. If it's like uh, if
Speaker 4: it's from a performance standpoint, like you wanted to write
Speaker 4: or perform something, then I would say just write, you know,
Speaker 4: start whether like definitely start with a journal if you're
Speaker 4: not already doing it, because that's just great like daily
Speaker 4: writing tool anyway, but it's a good way to just regularly,
Speaker 4: inhibitually get thoughts out, and then you can go back
Speaker 4: and analyze those things. But I would just start like
Speaker 4: writing about the thing that made you, Like if you
Speaker 4: when the next time that you crack up with some shit,
Speaker 4: or if you laugh at yourself or you just have
Speaker 4: a funny thought, write it down and then answer why
Speaker 4: that was funny or ass of why it made you laugh,
Speaker 4: and then start, you know, unpacking from there. Or you
Speaker 4: could just literally be like, I know that I'm going
Speaker 4: through my third breakup with the same nigga, and I
Speaker 4: know that this story is crazy. You could just start for.
Speaker 1: The right y'all know you're not gonna believe it, but
Speaker 1: it is what it is, right right right, right right right.
Speaker 4: That's just kind of just yeah, finding the truth of
Speaker 4: it from there.
Speaker 1: Yes, And to your point, kid, I think one of
Speaker 1: the things I also I've been doing a lot more
Speaker 1: even just this year, is and what I hear you
Speaker 1: also kind of undertoning is this idea of giving yourself
Speaker 1: the authority to laugh. I think everybody, especially now in
Speaker 1: the world that we live in, like everyone's so serious
Speaker 1: about everything. It's like, you know, politics and rights, and
Speaker 1: it's like okay, yes, like, yes, we can, we can
Speaker 1: do those things. But also, shit is funny and I'm
Speaker 1: a laugh That's the one thing about me I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my husband. At the end of the day. Some nights,
Speaker 1: I'll just be laying on the couch reels, reeling it up,
Speaker 1: and something will hit me and it's funny as fuck
Speaker 1: to me and I just laugh. And you know, why
Speaker 1: are you laughing? What are you laughing about? I'm laughing
Speaker 1: because it's funny, and I feel like I have the
Speaker 1: right to laugh. So I think that that's the thing,
Speaker 1: like we can't so many of us are, especially folks
Speaker 1: who are chronically on the internet. We are taking so
Speaker 1: much of what we what we're seeing, and and it's
Speaker 1: becoming who we are. And I think, to an extent
Speaker 1: some of us are are losing our joy. And I
Speaker 1: think that you're what you're what you're inherently doing with
Speaker 1: your tour and what your work is, You're you're reclaiming that,
Speaker 1: like you're reclaiming so much of your joy.
Speaker 4: Our morals don't have to be performance. Yeah, sometimes we
Speaker 4: can just have a good time. There is so much
Speaker 4: that is not in our control that the one thing
Speaker 4: you can do is be like, well that wig is
Speaker 4: about to fly off Trump set and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's real. That's real,
Speaker 1: all right, So you know what a moment that is
Speaker 1: most pleasing to me in my career. But you know,
Speaker 1: you know what this this has been such a just
Speaker 1: a pleasing moment, But you know what it's not pleasing
Speaker 1: to me is paying bills. But we have to do
Speaker 1: that around here to keep these lights on. So with
Speaker 1: that being said, we are going to take a quick
Speaker 1: moment for us to pay some bills and then when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna come back with our What
Speaker 1: I like to say is my favorite segment of the show.
Speaker 1: How you Helen will be back in a.
Speaker 3: Second, and we are black as hu ya we've done this, Segie.
Speaker 3: I'm when I first start off with asking.
Speaker 2: Y'all, what's something that you used to robbing your parents about?
Speaker 3: But now as an adult, like you get it. For me,
Speaker 3: it's being tired, like as it can I be on
Speaker 3: my parents, ask about being tired that you try to drive,
Speaker 3: to try to cook, to try to go up to the.
Speaker 1: City, like yeah, And I was like what, like what
Speaker 1: like what are y'all doing?
Speaker 2: Like y'all just work. It's not that deep. What mean
Speaker 2: so tired? Oh my god, When I sit back and think.
Speaker 3: These busses less bluss These two people, they had to
Speaker 3: wake up like five am. Man shower themselves. We had
Speaker 3: one shower. Shower themselves, then shower me. Get my bad
Speaker 3: ass up, get my annoying ass up, Take my ass
Speaker 3: of school, even though I'm sorry, go back, get me fed,
Speaker 3: make sure we're all fed.
Speaker 2: Ten masks, Yes, tay, my ass of school. Wan went
Speaker 2: about school.
Speaker 3: Drive across the fucking bridge over the bay to get
Speaker 3: to work because they both wear across the bay, be
Speaker 3: in an hour traffic. Then work all day, get probably
Speaker 3: me being a bad ass ket at my school, then
Speaker 3: leave work, come back and get my bad ass, pick
Speaker 3: me up, then take me home, then feed me again.
Speaker 2: Just to wahi bitch, I'd.
Speaker 1: Be tired as fu too.
Speaker 3: Now I'm like, Oh, I get it now, I understand
Speaker 3: like I as a working girl who does way too
Speaker 3: much all the time.
Speaker 2: I gets it.
Speaker 3: I I too am too tired to get out to
Speaker 3: change clothes, too tired to you the house, too tired
Speaker 3: to get in the car.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: That's why, That's why I don't everything. That's why I'm
Speaker 3: a privileged bitch.
Speaker 2: These days.
Speaker 3: I will definitely do it in the car and then listen,
Speaker 3: that's just what's going to be. I will do a
Speaker 3: lial hole this.
Speaker 4: Livery like, let me tell you something. Light a candle.
Speaker 2: I know she has to see me coming my case
Speaker 2: to see me when I'm like.
Speaker 4: This evening, think.
Speaker 3: I'm going to nowhere. When my roommate saying, you do shopping?
Speaker 3: I said, but why do you want to go shopping?
Speaker 3: We can just be home and I can just order
Speaker 3: it right, And it's like she and like I get
Speaker 3: where she's coming from.
Speaker 2: She's like, but what She's like, don't you want to
Speaker 2: pick out your own meat?
Speaker 1: No? I trust me out.
Speaker 4: I want a pound.
Speaker 1: To give me a pound.
Speaker 2: I don't think that is that I don't want to go.
Speaker 2: I don't want the urge.
Speaker 3: Tonot go is more than I will pay to my
Speaker 3: meat and pick my meat for me.
Speaker 4: Thinks I go through gries when I am in a
Speaker 4: good movie, like okay, I have a lucky clicking my
Speaker 4: heels and maybe God's good.
Speaker 3: We praise them every day, Hey, I do, like that's
Speaker 3: when I go shopping as well.
Speaker 2: I can't about you, kid? How about you?
Speaker 4: Mine is really simple and it's just why is this
Speaker 4: light on?
Speaker 2: Like oh my god, saying no the way and I
Speaker 2: like that, no one's using.
Speaker 1: Nobody's downstairs. Why is the light on the middle?
Speaker 2: I'm done?
Speaker 4: My father, you s to be Yeah. It was lifestyle
Speaker 4: that didn't need to be came out to the point
Speaker 4: where if I was like I was the last kick kid.
Speaker 4: So like sometimes I would be at home and maybe
Speaker 4: my father came home the key to the north and
Speaker 4: we Jamaican, So you know, I got that you saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the lights of yeah, all the light turned
Speaker 1: the lights.
Speaker 4: Off, and not like as an you know, adult now,
Speaker 4: I'm just like I live alone. Sometimes I will like
Speaker 4: leave the light on in the kitchen or whatever and
Speaker 4: come back. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Yeah? So, so many of you
Speaker 1: have listened to the show for years and know that
Speaker 1: I grew up. So I grew up. My family lives
Speaker 1: in Compton, but my mom moved to San Bernardino, which
Speaker 1: is about forty five to fifty minutes without traffic, but
Speaker 1: when there is traffic, it's about a two hour drive.
Speaker 1: And so for me growing up, I used to always
Speaker 1: ragle my mom when she didn't want to take me
Speaker 1: to La to see my cousins. It was always like, ooh, Mom,
Speaker 1: why can't we go to Compton? Why couldn't we Why
Speaker 1: can't we go to Washston see so and so? Like
Speaker 1: why can't we hang out with Rene this weekend? My
Speaker 1: mom was like, I'm not driving out there. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that now as a thirty nine year old with
Speaker 1: a hybrid vehicle. I literally, what was I texting you
Speaker 1: before I got here?
Speaker 5: Nigga, It's gonna take me an hour and thirty five
Speaker 5: minutes to get here.
Speaker 2: Well, I may not make it, Like I may not
Speaker 2: make it.
Speaker 1: Because we were supposed to go get food before this,
Speaker 1: and I was like, bitch, I'm not gonna make it
Speaker 1: because that traffic. And so, you know, God bless my mom,
Speaker 1: and we know we speak your name. Mom.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 1: I always talk about how much I used to be
Speaker 1: so mean to my mom about her not wanting to
Speaker 1: drive when I was young, But now as somebody who
Speaker 1: has to drive into this city and drive out that
Speaker 1: for me as an adult is the thing that, oh,
Speaker 1: it burns my biscuits. I cannot stand driving in the
Speaker 1: four four or five, the ten, the one on one
Speaker 1: to the one thirty eight, fuck it all, I would.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 4: Home relations write a note to yourself and I be
Speaker 4: like eight year old kid, fury, what the fuck is
Speaker 4: your problem?
Speaker 2: Girl?
Speaker 4: Do yes? Nobody is taking you to Burger King right
Speaker 4: after school today. You don't have burger King money. I
Speaker 4: don't have no damn job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, damn guys to get there, no gas.
Speaker 4: You don't even appreciate that it's Monday and your mama
Speaker 4: just went grocery shopping.
Speaker 1: It's food at the house.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, you're not getting no damn quarter pound, not
Speaker 4: getting tender.
Speaker 1: Shut your ass in that seat. Yes, there it is there,
Speaker 1: it is. I feel that more and more than and
Speaker 1: I even be doing that to myself when I'm driving
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, bitch, you really don't have it to
Speaker 1: sit this drive through? Why are you just go home
Speaker 1: and eat? Just go home and eat? You just with
Speaker 1: grocery show, just share all the time.
Speaker 3: Listen, so my my, the way I do it for
Speaker 3: myself is shopping time.
Speaker 4: All bitch.
Speaker 2: Yes, I shot for an hour and a half in
Speaker 2: this remarket.
Speaker 3: Girl, I'm going I'm going to buy I'm going to
Speaker 3: buy myself there now, thank you for I know that's
Speaker 3: that it really is. Isn't a job that I and
Speaker 3: I got paid for it?
Speaker 1: And then now I got stairs, so I gotta carry
Speaker 1: all the bags up the stairs. And I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not to make one time at all, and I will.
Speaker 1: That's why break I have to. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: why I was late today. I left my ring on
Speaker 1: the third floor. It was on the first floor in
Speaker 1: a meeting because my office is on the first floor,
Speaker 1: and literally stood there for like a minute. It was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be late, but I gotta go up there.
Speaker 1: It was so mad at myself. But that's also an
Speaker 1: adult thing for me, like.
Speaker 4: I remember used to like literally on the way here,
Speaker 4: like in the lobby, walking out the double doors, looking down,
Speaker 4: I left my phone up stairs. Yep, yep, that literally
Speaker 4: an hour literally today.
Speaker 1: That'll do it every time, every time, That'll do.
Speaker 3: It, scream, but before before you have to give just
Speaker 3: because you didn't have the light and made me think
Speaker 3: about like my dad, because that man his door, like
Speaker 3: my parents been closed and the light and the kitchen
Speaker 3: could be one and in my in my house growing up,
Speaker 3: the kitchen was so far from the bedroom, but he
Speaker 3: would just know that it was on.
Speaker 2: He was like, jermalis I last so long? Right down
Speaker 2: he was in the kitchen light, and I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck you know that?
Speaker 3: He would say he could see the slightest, the slightest
Speaker 3: slimmer from from the on the door, And as an adult,
Speaker 3: relates so hard because when I'm in my bedroom of
Speaker 3: my doors closed and I see that fucking little yellow
Speaker 3: can see, like why just on?
Speaker 2: I guess so mad, And I'm like, I've become my father.
Speaker 3: I've become my father. Yeah, yeah, really, you don't have
Speaker 3: to expect you like, damn, you.
Speaker 1: Do become your parents, because my mom used to be
Speaker 1: the one. Why are you letting all my good air out?
Speaker 1: And I was at work the other day and there
Speaker 1: was so people know I work for a nonprofit, and
Speaker 1: there was a youth who had come in and left
Speaker 1: the front door open, And the first thing I said is, baby,
Speaker 1: can you close that door because you're letting the good
Speaker 1: air out? This is too hot.
Speaker 2: It is hauling ass right now? Do you not sucking
Speaker 2: up play with me? Don't do it?
Speaker 1: You messing up the temperature here? Yeah, close that door.
Speaker 3: Okay, before we all morveh into our parents, y'all, we
Speaker 3: go take one more break and also for me to
Speaker 3: find to find my bivocals again real quick.
Speaker 2: I hate you.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all. So we are going to get into
Speaker 1: our last segment, which y'all know, y'all, love is our
Speaker 1: yes ma'am and our no man pam. And so this week,
Speaker 1: instead of me actually getting We're gonna ask kid Theory
Speaker 1: first what their yes ma'm's and there no man PAMs
Speaker 1: are and then I'll throw it to Joho and then
Speaker 1: I'll go last. So what are your yes ma'ms and
Speaker 1: your no mams for this No man PAMs for this week?
Speaker 4: Just anything.
Speaker 1: It could be anything.
Speaker 2: Girls and tomatoes, yes, okay, so my.
Speaker 4: Yes ma'ams for this week in honor of it be
Speaker 4: at the moment of recording is early October. Yes, it's
Speaker 4: spooky season girl, Yes, and I'm really enjoying two new
Speaker 4: shows Agatha all.
Speaker 1: Along, okay, please give it, give it.
Speaker 4: And a similar witchy show but a lot more black
Speaker 4: and brown. It is called Domino Day.
Speaker 1: Never heard.
Speaker 4: It was just a random suggestion to me on Prime
Speaker 4: Video one day. It is a black witch who is
Speaker 4: without a coven. It's up to Shenanigans and another coven.
Speaker 4: Uh that just that kind of thing today. Yes, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 4: And then no, ma'am Pam hmmm, oh you know what,
Speaker 4: this seems really silly. There's a this is dumb. There's
Speaker 4: a smile to the okay, horror smile too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw the promo coming down here, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The one I had the idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's Jack nichols son. Yeah, it's a son.
Speaker 4: His The smile to billboard with his face is incredibly
Speaker 4: visible outside of my apartment window. So sometimes I'll just
Speaker 4: be like, you know, crack of dawn, I'm going to go,
Speaker 4: you know, make some yeah, Jack Nicholas, and he looks
Speaker 4: just like it. Yeah, ye, this big creepy smile. I'll
Speaker 4: be forgetting the goddamn his picture that. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: when the movie come out, get this down, anything else,
Speaker 4: pick something else, breakfastitivity something else.
Speaker 1: But yes, I definitely coming down. I don't know, I forget.
Speaker 1: I think it was Hollywood Boulevard. I was coming down
Speaker 1: Hollywood and I saw the big sign and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, so yes, I definitely feel it. What about you?
Speaker 3: This I'll just say literally, I think across the streams
Speaker 3: from the studio. Yeah, I was like, oh small too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know there's a one and I was like, oh interesting.
Speaker 2: I was like, is it okay?
Speaker 4: Ahead it was.
Speaker 2: It was just because I also I'm also a horror girl,
Speaker 2: so I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: I think all three of us are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, episode I lived, that little Demon the Little de
Speaker 3: Watch episode, Hey, that little demon bird thing. Come on,
Speaker 3: that was a lot this, this is a lot of
Speaker 3: Disney will. They really said, let's see what happened. Okay,
Speaker 3: So my yes, ma'am, I guess it was gonna be too.
Speaker 3: Went out to like my best friend since childhood, since
Speaker 3: pre k. She said, give him, yes, ma'am, because I hope,
Speaker 3: I hope he hears this. He loves the show. He's
Speaker 3: been a fan since Stayble. So he's one that actually
Speaker 3: got me in to listen to the read when I so,
Speaker 3: I I I'm originally from the Bay and I when
Speaker 3: when we moved back here, move down here and drive
Speaker 3: back up a lot and like fist six years ago,
Speaker 3: I had called him me he was and I was
Speaker 3: doing He's like, I'm gonna listen to.
Speaker 2: The read and I was side. He is like, hang
Speaker 2: up on me and listen listen to the show.
Speaker 3: Okay, and the way the way I saved every road
Speaker 3: trip for me because because like that was to listen
Speaker 3: to go and like and so Jason, if you listen
Speaker 3: to this my guy, Yes, mam to you, because you
Speaker 3: got me, You got me into the show, which like
Speaker 3: which really got me into doing the podcast. We want
Speaker 3: to want to like listen to podcasts and be on
Speaker 3: pockets and do podcasts.
Speaker 2: Supposed to go a moment.
Speaker 3: I know he is going to scream when he hears
Speaker 3: this and when he hears your voice, and we've kept
Speaker 3: this real low, kept like what the like, it's yeah,
Speaker 3: he's he's going to probably like actually like himself. Yes
Speaker 3: to your friend, thank you, thank you, thank you for
Speaker 3: becoming the show, thank you for me you're here. Also
Speaker 3: also thank you being he has been a he has
Speaker 3: been a b FF evangelist goes yeah.
Speaker 2: Up up in the bay. He's like, have y'all heard BFF.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna to him my no, man, Pam, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be to CNN right now because they because they
Speaker 3: just launched their paywall.
Speaker 2: Which I was like, it's like and I I understand.
Speaker 3: I mean, let me back up CEN for a lot
Speaker 3: of reasons right now, like CNN and the coverage for
Speaker 3: a lot of reasons. But at least I can read
Speaker 3: the coverage for free and now I got paid for it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, it's a bullshit, Like and I understand.
Speaker 3: I understand the reason that journalism and for the field
Speaker 3: that it's constantly shifting financially, So I get why they
Speaker 3: want to do a paywall, but like I've also been
Speaker 3: dependent on not having to pay wall with that, Like it's.
Speaker 1: Just every every article like now is behind a paywall,
Speaker 1: and I'm like I can't read one thing like how
Speaker 1: long what happens to stay with this or like and
Speaker 1: I mean now now now now, like now I can't
Speaker 1: be on y'all because I can't really can't reach rigmatic.
Speaker 3: Like so just knowing him to that and like again, y'all,
Speaker 3: I do understand why. I mean, part of me is
Speaker 3: like we've send money on like all these other things
Speaker 3: that you can now use to me money on, but
Speaker 3: you can be saving it for the journalists. But okay,
Speaker 3: also like you can you can get other biliti the
Speaker 3: government that they're not giving you but okay, like especially
Speaker 3: the other reason that you can do besides making us
Speaker 3: pay for it, casualism, as you said before, seeing in
Speaker 3: yourself should be should be, like should be accessible.
Speaker 2: At all, and here you are making accessible. But who
Speaker 2: am I besides just a bit she reads the damn.
Speaker 1: Paper, I guess, right, yeah yeah, So okay, so we're
Speaker 1: now of mine talking about yes ma'am. So I wrote
Speaker 1: this with a lot of intention. I genuinely wanted to
Speaker 1: say this week kid theory that you are my yes ma'am.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to say too, like I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that I'm in a place now. So in like I
Speaker 1: think it was two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: I remember being in my dorm room and I remember
Speaker 1: watching your videos and I remember seeing you, you know,
Speaker 1: just you're doing the stuff you were doing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, ooh, one day I want to I want
Speaker 1: to be a you know, a blogger, you know. And
Speaker 1: it was and again that's such a cringey term now, right,
Speaker 1: but you you I think even in that moment, it
Speaker 1: was like you were helping me understand that I had
Speaker 1: something to say and even though I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to say it, it was still like you were the
Speaker 1: blueprint for me to be able to go out and say,
Speaker 1: maybe one day I could have a you know, have
Speaker 1: my own show, or maybe one day I got my
Speaker 1: own YouTube channel. I even started my own YouTube channel
Speaker 1: at one point. Like there are all these things and
Speaker 1: so like as much as like you know we talked
Speaker 1: about earlier in the show, you talking about you know,
Speaker 1: this idea of life is better and you know, the
Speaker 1: whole life gets better and all of these other pieces, right,
Speaker 1: I think it is I'm so grateful for and I
Speaker 1: don't even just say kid Fear. I say for the
Speaker 1: kid Furies who are like you, you know that that
Speaker 1: give us the space to say, well, you know what
Speaker 1: I learned this on you know the read and kid
Speaker 1: Fury said this, or you know, kid Fiory said that,
Speaker 1: and even the whole notion of like fuck people like
Speaker 1: fuck fuck what people think about you or fuck like
Speaker 1: I think so much of us as black queer, specifically
Speaker 1: me as a black fat fan who's very very vocal
Speaker 1: about being non binary. I'm constantly in my head about
Speaker 1: what does the world see me as and what does
Speaker 1: see and so watching you and watching Crystal and watching
Speaker 1: so many other people has really been able to give
Speaker 1: me that ability to just be like fuck them, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think that that for me is so beautiful.
Speaker 1: So I you know, I'm I guess for me and
Speaker 1: all of this and this, you know, yes, this, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: I think me and Jojo Bo feel very very blessed
Speaker 1: to say that we're grateful that we see you not
Speaker 1: only helping other black people get on, but you helped
Speaker 1: them stay on. And we just want to thank you.
Speaker 1: We genuinely want to thank you because you could have said, ah,
Speaker 1: a girl, little little podcast. I don't know who the
Speaker 1: fuck they is. I'm not doing that right, but you
Speaker 1: made the time to trek all the way down here
Speaker 1: to to you know, to West Hollywood to record with
Speaker 1: us in it. Honestly, like I said, I there are
Speaker 1: a lot of things that have happened in my life.
Speaker 1: Being in a Toyota commercial was another one that was
Speaker 1: something I never ever thought whatever happened, But this was
Speaker 1: a moment of like going from a San Bernardino dorm
Speaker 1: room to now interviewing the nigga who really helped me
Speaker 1: get my shit in order to get a show on
Speaker 1: the iHeart Network. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Like I'm literally sitting here going nigga ass crazy, Like
Speaker 3: it's just just crazy to be sitting.
Speaker 1: Across from you. You on my show. It's crazy. It's
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. So I just I hope if there's nothing
Speaker 1: you take from anything today, I hope you get home,
Speaker 1: you just to have your dog, you hold your dog,
Speaker 1: and you just sit there on your couch and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm that bitch and you are, and you are because
Speaker 1: you have inspired so many people that you may not
Speaker 1: even know yet. So I just wanted to say that
Speaker 1: on the mic. And it's not just because your kid fury.
Speaker 1: It really is because I think I also know the
Speaker 1: jerk good person and I've always I've always, like I said,
Speaker 1: I've heard people speak highly of you, and I just
Speaker 1: want you to know that that you genuinely are that
Speaker 1: girl and been that girl, and you will continue to
Speaker 1: be that girl. You are one. You are one of one.
Speaker 1: You are the only ones. So I just want you
Speaker 1: to make sure that you take that with you. So
Speaker 1: my no man, Pam, I'm gonna make a quick and
Speaker 1: sure because my I feel like I've been talking a
Speaker 1: lot of this episode, but I will say my no man,
Speaker 1: PAM are for the niggas who go into any place
Speaker 1: but specifically Apple. I was in the Apple store yesterday.
Speaker 1: I had to return something. I have to have to
Speaker 1: go back to the Apple store today because I'm also
Speaker 1: returning something that's neither here nor there. People go into
Speaker 1: these these stores and these restaurants and treat the people
Speaker 1: who work there like they have all the answers to everything.
Speaker 1: Can y'all just stop being mean to people who work
Speaker 1: in service or who work in like customer service, Like
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't understand, Like I don't get
Speaker 1: out of my car going I'm gonna go on this
Speaker 1: store and fuck somebody's day up, like I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't comprehend that, like I don't comprehend like I've even
Speaker 1: had people say thank you so much for being patient,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being so kind, and it's
Speaker 1: like people are not being patient and kind with you,
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is wrong with people? So it
Speaker 1: just it bugs me, It really bugs me. Long story
Speaker 1: short one, there was a woman there going off on
Speaker 1: one of the tech people at Apple yesterday and it
Speaker 1: was like what for, bitch, Like now you just need
Speaker 1: you literally just made yourself look stupid in front of this,
Speaker 1: in front of all these people in the store. But
Speaker 1: on top of that, you still have a phone that
Speaker 1: don't work.
Speaker 3: It's like you thinks out come out the back and
Speaker 3: I got you girls, does not happen, Like it's not
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Your phone is still broken because you didn't buy Apple Care.
Speaker 1: And now you're mad because you're you look so stupid
Speaker 1: that you've made these people's day, like you've ruined these
Speaker 1: people's day, and your phone is still broken. Now now
Speaker 1: where are we? What? What's the point? So that's mine?
Speaker 1: No man, Pam, just y'all, please be nice to people.
Speaker 1: The world is already on fire. And then we genuinely
Speaker 1: don't we don't have it and and and this is
Speaker 1: not even behind a paywall, so you like we put
Speaker 1: this one behind a Patreon paywall and make your day shitty,
Speaker 1: but we hidden, So please be nice, all right, ch'ald
Speaker 1: So we go ahead and wrap this up. Please send
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Speaker 1: and we also see the comments there and we love
Speaker 1: y'all for watching us. With that being said, before we
Speaker 1: get into where everyone can be found, keep in mind
Speaker 1: next week, October twelfth, San Diego, we have a live show.
Speaker 1: Tickets are available soon, please buy them. Please come out
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Speaker 1: So if you don't have your ticket now, you probably
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Speaker 1: But that being said, kid Fury, where can the niggas find.
Speaker 4: You in these streets? In the streets you can, I'm
Speaker 4: trying I tell you where you can find me where
Speaker 4: I'll be president.
Speaker 1: That's just that's tour days. Oh, come on, tell the
Speaker 1: girls where your tour is.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I have a show in New York City
Speaker 4: on the twenty fourth October. I will be in Houston, Dallas,
Speaker 4: and New Orleans next month, and I will be wrapping
Speaker 4: up the year back home in Miami on December first.
Speaker 4: You can go to Life is Better Tour dot com
Speaker 4: to get tickets now if you're interested, And you can
Speaker 4: follow the rest of my intics with one of my
Speaker 4: besties on a podcast called The Read, and that's where
Speaker 4: you get podcasts. And that's pretty much most of where
Speaker 4: you'll find me placing energy. Sometimes I post a story
Speaker 4: on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 4: That's it's about it.
Speaker 1: What about you, baby Joho?
Speaker 2: Y'all can find me.
Speaker 3: As usual Johodann's across all socials my website jour nails
Speaker 3: dot com. If not there, you can find me begging
Speaker 3: for forgiveness because right now we're in the Oba House
Speaker 3: comes out Jewishly, We're in the ten Days of Awe.
Speaker 3: So I'll be asking people forget us. I know what
Speaker 3: four I don't know if I need to ask forgive
Speaker 3: us for I'm pretty good. I'm pretty great, pretty good.
Speaker 3: But I'll be saying, hey, girl, do you need forgive
Speaker 3: me for something? If you do, can you forgive me?
Speaker 3: I have to ask you three times before guys says
Speaker 3: it's good, So like, let me know what's tea on this?
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. If you don't forgive me, and
Speaker 2: then I'll just haunt you. And that's fine too as well.
Speaker 1: That works.
Speaker 2: That's when you'll find me on the curb, saye, who
Speaker 2: can forgive me? Please? Watching some city for some forgiveness.
Speaker 1: I know that's right, yes, yes, yes, Well as for
Speaker 1: me and my house, you can find me over at
Speaker 1: doctor John Paul on all the socials. You can also
Speaker 1: go to w W dot doctor John paul dot com
Speaker 1: where you can click on the book link and you
Speaker 1: can purchase my book that is for pre order right now,
Speaker 1: Black Fat Fembook Honey coming out watch twenty fifth. Get
Speaker 1: the book, honey, because if you ain't got it, then
Speaker 1: what you doing? Move dang? Got the book? Move dang
Speaker 1: all ready? She she already asks for it.
Speaker 3: I saw her the day I said, I said, I
Speaker 3: see you.
Speaker 1: Yes, her people reached out to me and said, can
Speaker 1: I get a copy of the book, and I said,
Speaker 1: you sure can. So if Moodang got the book, you
Speaker 1: can go buy the book too. With that being said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and wrap this up. Thank you everybody.
Speaker 1: We specifically want to say thank you so much to
Speaker 1: Bey Wang, our executive producer of the show, who helped
Speaker 1: put all of this together. We want to thank it
Speaker 1: Furious people for putting all of this together too, and
Speaker 1: everybody over at I heart and and and the folks
Speaker 1: who just do the logistics and got this place in
Speaker 1: space book for us. It has been a blessing. I
Speaker 1: heart thank you Jesus God bless you. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Chris Rogers, we want to say thank you so much
Speaker 1: for doing the editing of this show, for being for
Speaker 1: being just the most wonderful editor who puts the visuals
Speaker 1: and the audio together. We could not have a show
Speaker 1: without Chris Rogers. And so I just ain't it because
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these camera right now going and
Speaker 1: couldn't be me. It could be me. I can do it,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to. I can, but I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it, no, ma'am. All right, y'all, well, this has
Speaker 1: been another show. Stay black, fat, femine fabulous, And remember
Speaker 1: that life will it is continuing to get better. I
Speaker 1: Love Us. Surreal Byey