1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: In the early morning hours of April eighteenth, Fevers, a 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: fitness instructor, a mom and wife, showed up at this 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: church to teach a class. Police says she was killed 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: by puncture wounds to the head and chest. This is 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: crimed stories with Nancy Grace. This person intended to do 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: exactly what they did, when they did it, and whom 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: they did it too. The former Murphy police chief says 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: the circle of people who may know what happened is 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: likely very small. They're asked to be some line between 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: her death and people in her past. Investigators have poured 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: over Beaver's Internet history and executed multiple wars. Let's say 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: today the I D on this suspect will come from 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: a tip they still haven't received. How did a Texas 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: super um get blood and dead in a mid Lothian church. 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean the psychological implications of that alone, Well, it's 16 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: more than I'm just a trial lawyer can take in. 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Nancy Grace with crime stories here, and we 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: are on Missy Beavers today. I don't understand how the 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: perpetrator can be caught on video and still not apprehended. 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: I don't get it, but let's go with what we 21 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: do know right now focus on a potential person of 22 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: interest that is former law enforcement, and we have now 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: triple confirmed that. We have also reconfirmed that there are 24 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: not only relatives of misses that are afraid as well 25 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: as certain law enforcement members that the killer is walking free. 26 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: I can't change that, but what I can change is 27 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: an analysis of the via called the vehicle of interest 28 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: and the route that we believe the killer may have 29 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: taken that night. Joining you right now, investigative reporter Alan Duke, Alan, 30 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you some more about this 31 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve Nisan Ultima two thousand ten to two 32 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: thousand twelve. Again, it's hard for me to understand why 33 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: this vehicle cannot be narrowed down because it happens every 34 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: day in every major city in this country. I mean, 35 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: just go to the A p D or the n 36 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Y p D theft unit, car theft unit. It's a science. 37 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they can tell by looking at a tail 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: light a tail light, what year a car is. I 39 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: can only believe that law enforcement has information they're not 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: telling us. You know, we've reported previously that they have 41 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: been very silent for the last several months. They've decided 42 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: not to talk to the media and make any releases. 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: I have to believe that there's something that they know 44 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: about that car, because how many of these cars could 45 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: there be in that community and they've narrowed down some 46 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: persons of interest. What do they know about that car? 47 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: Why can't they look in zooming in? Let's let's look 48 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: at the video ourselves and see what we can see. Now. 49 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I believe that you're looking at it right now. Let's 50 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: tell our listeners what exactly are you What website are 51 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: you using to see the actual video? It's on YouTube 52 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: and we haven't embedded in crime online dot com and 53 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: will re embed it along with this podcast. It's it 54 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: was posted just a few weeks ago by the owners 55 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: of that gun store that's just catty cornered across the 56 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: street from the church in Middle Lothian where the killing 57 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: took place. It's on YouTube, originally posted. It's remarkable. You've 58 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: got all of these cameras that have captured the car 59 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: a couple of hours before the murder pulling into If 60 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: you look at it, you see it pulling off the 61 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: divided highway I think it's Highway to seven and it 62 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: pulls in and it turns the lights, it blinks the lights. 63 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Then it goes around to the back of the gun 64 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: store s w F A, which is a large gun store. 65 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: You see it going back behind the loading docks, and 66 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: then it pulls around back to the front and it 67 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: pulls into a parking space in the front and it 68 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: sits there with lights off for three minutes. I'm looking 69 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: at the same thing you're looking at. What I don't 70 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: understand is how I can see dust on the moon. 71 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: I can see individual rocks and particles on the moon, 72 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: but I can't get the tag plate for this car. 73 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: And like you say, can you when you zoom in? 74 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Do you think you can see one person, two people, 75 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: a face? What do you think you can see me? Personally? 76 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. But enforcement they've got 77 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: to be able to analyze this, you know. I've I've 78 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: watched discussions online that started after our podcast last week. 79 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: It got a lot of discussions going on various forums 80 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: about this, and people started themselves on their own computer 81 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: zooming in and looking and sharing and discussing. Some people 82 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: claim to see a nose. Some people claim to see 83 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: a box in the back seat. Some people claim to 84 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: see that there's the drivers wearing a helmet. You have 85 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: these different theories, but I look at it and I 86 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: personally cannot tell much from it. But there are people 87 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: who just swear that they can tell a lot of 88 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: things by looking at a zoomed in screenshot from a 89 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: frame grab of that video. What do you make Well, 90 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: the people that believe they can see a face is 91 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: a white person? Do they believe they can see a 92 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: white male or a white female? Well, depending on who 93 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: they is. Uh. Some people say it's a person with 94 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: a ponytail because the away their hairs behind their ears. 95 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: Hey where were you that night? Exactly? I've got to 96 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: go and check my alibi. But you know, you get different. 97 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: It's it's what what is it? The Rorschach test? You 98 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you see what you want to see or what's in 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: your mind. It's almost to that point. But again, I've 100 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: got to believe, as you said, that there is technology 101 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: and that the technology has been is being used to 102 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: really peer inside the frames of that video because it's 103 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: pretty clear video as security camera video goes. Let's talk 104 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: about what we've learned by recombing over the search warrant affidavits. 105 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: They tell you a lot. Alan Now, remember, when you 106 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: are asking a judge to give you a search warrant, 107 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: you throw in everything you believe you might be able 108 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: to find as a result of that search. Why because 109 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: if not, you will say you, Okay, what if I 110 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: go into your place, just pretend thing and I say, 111 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking for an A K forty seven that killed 112 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: so and so gang member July nineteen, July two thousand fifteen. Okay, 113 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: if that's all you put in there, and you don't 114 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: put in a catch all phrase. If I come in 115 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: your place and then I see a hundred rounds of ammunition, 116 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: and I see cocaine and heroin and stolen gold, I 117 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: that's outside the scope of my search. Want. My point 118 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: is a lot of times police will put in any 119 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: other indition of criminal enterprise, which is obviously a catch 120 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: all phrase. But my point is if you don't delineate 121 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: it in your search warrant, you'll have a constitutional challenge 122 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: at trial if you see something else that's not listed 123 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: in the warrant and you seize it. So a lot 124 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: of the stuff in the Missy Beaver's warrants, as I 125 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: call them, it's what they think they might find as 126 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: a result of the search not what they know to 127 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: be there. So with that in mind as a cost 128 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: scenery instruction, what do we learn from the search warrants? Alan, Well, 129 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: the affidavits there are two really interesting ones. There's the 130 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: one for social media for Facebook wanting the Facebook post, 131 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: and the most spectacular thing in the affidavit, which I'm 132 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: going to pull up on my screen right now and 133 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: look at. It talks about information that investigators have gotten 134 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: by way of their interviews, specifically including an interview with 135 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Beaver's the husband. And this is this is what 136 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: is shocking. The spouse of the decedent, that's Brandon Beavers 137 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: tells law enforcement that it is his knowledge that his 138 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: wife was involved in affairs relationships and it names one 139 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: particular person. I'll read this. Additionally, we have received information 140 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: from the spouse of the decedent that the decedent was 141 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: having love affairs with at least one person identified by 142 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: the spouse as I'm going to leave the name out. 143 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: And our investigators have uncovered communications between deceited and other 144 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: persons through Facebook private chat service, specifically including the name 145 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: of that person making arrangements to meet the deceit. It 146 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: now in each of these affidavits. It has an s 147 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: on affairs, not love affair, not relationship, but relationships, and 148 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: it names this one particular person. Is there a paran? 149 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Is there a paran like a fair peran? S affairs? 150 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: Love affairs? Wait? Wait wait wait wait wait, Okay, I'm 151 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna ask the empty room. Is there anybody in here 152 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that has never done anything they don't regret? Okay, nobody's 153 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: raising their hand. We all regret doing something, Okay. So 154 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to turn this into attack Missy Beavers 155 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: because she may have had an affair. Now, an affair 156 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: can be a fleeing. An affair can be a man 157 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: keeping up a second family in another state for two 158 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: or fifteen years. I mean, it can be anything. So 159 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm not in the business of judging morally because I 160 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: do not want anybody judging me. If it's got to 161 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: do with a felony, it's fair game. Okay. So that's 162 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: why this is even part of the conversation here. We 163 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: all know, Alan, I believe you'll agree with me on 164 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: this at least anyway that when you're looking at a 165 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: homicide or an unknown perpetrator attack, you start with small 166 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: circles first. They're gonna look at Brandon Beaver's He's the husband. 167 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: That's just the deal that statistically is the perpetrator is 168 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: the husband, be at current or x then you go 169 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: to boyfriend, then you go to x is, then you 170 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: go to Fleeings, and you keep going out further and further, 171 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: casting your net further and further. For all I know, 172 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: this of air could have happened ten years ago. So 173 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: let's just put this in per perspective before we start 174 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: trashing Missy Beavers. Okay, because I do not want that 175 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: when I go to him, and I don't want to 176 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: throwing that up in my face. Okay, I got plenty 177 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: I've done wrong without that being on top of it. 178 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: This was more recent and there's another sentence here. In 179 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: the course of our investigations, we have had multiple references 180 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: to the decedent's Facebook account, which listed the decedent's plans 181 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: and activities for assinations with people alleged to be her 182 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: lovers again s lovers. So that complicates this whole thing. Well, 183 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: to me, it doesn't complicated. It gives me more leads 184 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: to go on. Well, and I don't know any of 185 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: these people, they'd be maybe mild mannered librarians for all 186 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: I know. I don't think they are, but they could be. So, 187 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, an affair, it is not a killer make 188 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: So we've got those irons in the fire. We've got 189 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: the possibility that cops have been able to enhance that 190 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: ultima and have ruled in or out the driver. I'm 191 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: just telling you, I always say, Alan, there's no coincidence 192 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: in criminal law. I find it to be no coincidence 193 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: that someone was acting suspiciously parking in the front at 194 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: two am of a closed gun store, then driving around 195 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: back for a period of time, then coming around to 196 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: the other side before I get back on alleged affairs. 197 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Tell me, so our listeners can know where you're seeing 198 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: the aerial view of the gun shot parking lot versus 199 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: mid Lothian church. Well, you can simply anyone can go 200 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: on their phone or their laptop or whatever and see 201 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: Google just Google maps the church and you will see 202 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: s w f A. We'll hold on. I'm a trial lawyer, 203 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: not an I T specialist for peze SA, So let's 204 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: just try. I'm going to go to Google, go to 205 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Google and just search s wf A Google Earth and 206 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: then or Google Maps, Map dot Google. You know you 207 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: need to make up your mind. Do you want me 208 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: put Google Earth, Google Map, or map dot map, dot 209 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: Google dot com. I'm talking about dot Google dot com. 210 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Let's just um do this s wf A. That's the 211 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: name of this this gun shop, And immediately the auto 212 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: fill in mind comes up us to seven, mid Lothian, Texas. 213 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: Immediately I opened it up, and I have a map 214 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: of it of where that is. And then if you look, 215 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: you will see almost directly across the street. It says 216 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Creekside Church. You mean the outdoor sports storre s w 217 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: f A outdoors You see that now? Just zoom out, 218 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: maybe one click, and it will give you a broader picture. 219 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: And on mine it's showing the Creekside Church directly across 220 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: the street, almost just to the northwest, across the street 221 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: and to the northwest maybe a few hundred yards. How 222 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: do you make it do an aerial view? Just click 223 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: that little box if you're using the same kind of 224 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: browser I am. It says it says Earth and it'll 225 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: show you the satellite view. Click that Earth. Somehow I've 226 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: gotten an find down roadway. Okay, wait, wait, wait, okay, 227 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I think I've got it. Look at this, it is 228 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: no more than what would you say, a quarter mile 229 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: as the crow flies between where that car was hiding 230 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: in the back, turning its lights on and off behind 231 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: the gun store two am the night that Missy Beaver 232 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: shows up. About an hour and a half later, it's 233 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: at half a mile walk between a stand of trees 234 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: from that guns gun shop to mid Lothian Church. That's 235 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: at best a five minute walk through that stand of trees. 236 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Any local would know that. Now, anybody now the thought 237 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: of at three o'clock in the morning or whenever, walking 238 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: across the four lane road. It wasn't an extremely busy road, 239 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: but we know from the surveillance tape we do see 240 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: about every thirty seconds a car or a truck goes by. 241 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: We saw the car pull out and using a blinker 242 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: by the way, showing that they're apparently trying to obey 243 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: the law of the traffic laws taking a right out. Now, 244 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: it's just there's a turnaround where they can do a 245 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: U turn just right out of there and then they 246 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: can turn into it. There's a little dirt road that 247 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: is directly across the street from this gun store that 248 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: if you follow and you go down. You can park 249 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: right there near that tree stand that you're referring to, 250 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: and you can have a very hidden walk to the 251 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: back of the church. And remember there were some surveillance 252 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: cameras working, not directly outside the church, but somewhere in 253 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: that vicinity. None of them picked up a vehicle around 254 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: the church. That's why I'm saying this was no snatch 255 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: and grab. This was not a burglary. Someone parked a 256 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: distance away and walked to the church and got in, 257 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: and they would have had to thought about this and 258 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: planned it. Yeah, they had to think about it. I'm 259 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: just saying it's no coincidence about that ultima. It's not 260 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: nobody is driving around. It was just pretend. Let's just 261 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: pretend that it was someone driving around and they got 262 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: lost and they had to check their map. Why did 263 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: they have to go behind the gun shop and get 264 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: in the back parking lot. It would be a call 265 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: day in h E double l that at two thirty 266 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: in the morning, I would go behind a gun shop 267 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: alone in my car to check a map. That's not 268 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: going to happen. Not say so, what were they doing 269 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: back there? Were they deciding whether they were going to 270 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: part their car there and walk to the stand of trees, 271 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: maybe the spot of the surveillance camera. Oh, and high 272 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: tailed bata there. But I'm guaranteeing you that that stand 273 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: of trees has something to do with where the prope 274 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: head to get into that church. That gun store is like, yes, 275 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: the gun store is like a fortress, and there are 276 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: seventeen exterior cameras on it and it's hard to miss those. 277 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: So I think what you just said makes a lot 278 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: of sense. Well, another thing, if you look at this 279 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: aerial view, there are also it looks like five separate 280 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: buildings in that cluster of structures. They could have hidden 281 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: behind any of those or used any of those as cover. 282 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: I think, well, I'm zooming in and looking. How can 283 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: it be a coincidence? And I feel like I'm with 284 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: my investigator when I was a district attorney. How can 285 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: it be a coincidence that this happens around two to 286 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: three in the morning and she shows up over at 287 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the church, what at three or three thirds? She walks 288 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: in at about four. Okay, so I'm off, But but 289 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: the killer was seen there at three. The killer was 290 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: seen there at at least the video that has been 291 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: released inside the church. And keep in mind law enforcement 292 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: has not released all the video, so how can that 293 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: span not be connected. So the killer was already in 294 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: there at five till for sure, and they had to 295 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: break in. They broke in to get in through one 296 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: of the I think through a kitchen door. There's a 297 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: kitchen door that they entered through. And by the way, 298 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking zoomed in on my satellite view, you can 299 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: seek tire tracks to where you can drive a vehicle 300 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: to the rear of that tree stand, just to the 301 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: rear of the church. You can get there's that creek. 302 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: The tree stand actually is following North Prong Creek. All 303 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: you have to do is part because there there are 304 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: obviously trucks and other vehicles that have driven there. I'm 305 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: looking on the satellite view of Google, and you see 306 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: tire tracks that go just behind on the opposite side 307 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: of the creek from the church. Well, you know, and 308 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: now it used to be breaking technology, but now it's 309 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: kind of old hat to take a plaster cast of 310 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: tire tracks to show tread and then match it up 311 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: to somebody's car. It's like a footprint. But did they 312 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: do that? Doubtful highly doubtful, highly doubtful. Wasn't it raining? 313 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what would really have been left for 314 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: them to plaster cast really well, you could have seen 315 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: fresh tracks easily if if this car pulled in. My 316 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: question is now there had not been a murder in 317 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: this small town, which we'll get to in a second, 318 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: how small it was in years? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 319 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: we got the population wrong. That that burns me out 320 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: when some money does it to my hometown of Macon. Well, 321 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: making is a big city, it certainly is, And don't 322 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: forget it now. Just remember, didn't you come from Carrollton, 323 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: So don't start with me about making Carrollton, Georgia. Population. 324 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, it was population about fourteen 325 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: or fifteen thousand, which, by the way, is now the 326 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: current population of Midlothian, Texas. That's the current population. Okay, 327 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: I want to get that straight, which we sound like 328 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: we're kidding about that, but actually it bears on this case. 329 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: The bigger a city or area is, the more likely 330 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: it could be stranger on stranger. But I still consider 331 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: this to be a small enough town to think that 332 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: this was someone that knew her. I'm not stranger on stranger. 333 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: And keep in mind that the church and the gun 334 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: store itself are located on two seven, about halfway between 335 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Midlothian and the other booming city of Waxahatchie, So it's 336 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: mid the church itself is in a rural area. I 337 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: wonder how long you've practiced that before you could actually 338 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: say it on this podcast. I give you total credit. 339 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: So this is where we're at now. We are reviewing 340 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: the ultimate video just like you are, and actually have 341 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: been on the ground checking out that route between the 342 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: gun store and the mid Lothian church where Missy lost 343 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: her life. You know what I don't I don't want 344 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: to talk about her allegend affairs except to the extent that, 345 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: if they existed, those people are being investigated. I wonder 346 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: if it's willingly or unwillingly. This is Nancy Grace signing 347 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: off of Crime Stories. Goodbye friend,