1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody through Wednesday, NIA that Texans All Access from 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: the Honday Texans Radio stud Studio mobile version as it's 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: been for almost a year now. Oh my goodness. I'm 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: your host, John Harris Football. I'll sideline reporter alongside my partner, 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: the Voice of the Texans, Mark Van Ryo. Mark, Good afternoon, 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Good evening, how are you, my friend, Johnny? Afternoon is 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: starting to creep into the evening with the daylight saving situation, 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: so that's nice. You know, we get a little more 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: daylight here and after last week. I don't even remember 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: last week. I mean now, it's just gorgeous out temperature wise, 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: so that's great. I know. Plenty of efforts still under 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: way to help people in need, and Houston Texans dot 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Com has all the stories about the players, the organization, 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: cal and Hannah jan is everything they're doing to help Houston, 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: and it's awesome to read about it. There. Yeah, no doubt, 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and Mark, I want to I want to start with that. 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna have our position breakdown in construction, as all 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: these position groups are. We'll have that in just a second, 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna play yes or No at the 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: end of the show. And then we're gonna have the 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: Ultimate Draft Part two right in the middle of the show. 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: But I want to start with this because you brought 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: it up. This is really cool. The four teams in 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: the AFC South came together and gave one hundred thousand 25 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: dollars each, which I just think is I mean, phenomenal. 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Think about obviously, with everything that went on last week 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: here in Houston with the winter storm, I think it's 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: what was it called Zuri or Yuri or whatever it was. 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Either way, I called snow Apocalypse twenty twenty one. But 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Colts, and Titans are supporting the Texans with 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: a joint donation of one hundred thousand dollars to the 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: Houston Slash Harris County twenty twenty one Winter Storm Relief Fund, 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: and the NFL Foundation will match the donation, bringing the 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: total donation amount to two hundred thousand dollars. Mark. That's 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff, my friend. I know we have great 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: sports hate for the teams in our division, but this 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: is this is really cool to put that aside and 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: band together as one group. That was pretty cool to see. Well, 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, Johnny, I have mixed feelings because this reminds 40 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: me of when we went to visit Dallas right after 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: Hurricane Harvey hit and the Cowboys such they took such 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: great care of us, and it really made me mad 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: because I hate the Cowboys, and you're making me like 44 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: you now. So these division teams helping out with this 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Houston Harris County Winner storm relief fund, they're making me 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: like them more. Not all seriousness. It's awesome to band 47 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: together like this. And you know how I feel. I 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: feel like this division does not get enough credit anyway 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: for what they do on the field, and now they're 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: going to get more credit the division for what we're 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: doing off the field. And I think that's great. And 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: the NFL chimes in as well. I think it's terrific. 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: I've always felt the AFC South is underplayed. Now we 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: need super bowls out of this division. Not that I'm 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: rooting for those other teams to get super Bowls. I 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: want them. It's not like a college conference. Even in 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: a college conference, Johnny, you know it's funny because these 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: are your rivals, But in the NCAA tournament, if a 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: conference team goes all the way the farther they go 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament, the more money the conference gets, right, 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: And obviously it's good for your league if a team 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: does well, so you kind of pull for them to 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: a degree, I guess, But in the NFL it's very different. Anyway, 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: it's good to see the AFC South band together. You 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: and I know so many guys, so many people who 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: work for these different teams, and it's so wonderful to 67 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: see everybody pulled together like this. Yeah, very very cool. 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into our position group of the 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: day that we have been breaking down, and you're pretty 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: much one a day, and I think we've done it 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: for the last three or four days. We did wide receivers, 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: we did d line, and now we go to one 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: that becomes polarizing depending on how you look at it. 74 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: The Texans that have sunk a lot of resources into 75 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: the offensive line. They gave up we all know a 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: couple of first rounders for Lambry Tunsil, a first rounder 77 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: they used to draft Titus Howard a second rounder, to 78 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: draft Max Sharping a second rounder back in twenty sixteen, 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: to draft Nick Martin. They put free agent money into 80 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: guys like Sneil Kella Mete and Longer with the team. 81 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: But they did that and Zach Fulton. They put free 82 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: agent money in that same year they went out and 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: got Sneil. They've put a lot of resources in this 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: and they also had a fourth round pick to Charlie Heck, 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: who had to step up and play the last two games. 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: I think it was the last two games he had 87 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: to play and fair okay, I won't you know, he 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: didn't do much until those last few games. They had 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: to step in and did some decent things. But Mark, 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: this group to me, has got to take a massive 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: It's almost like that year one to year two leap. 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: It's like that. But these guys have been around for 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: a while. I mean, Lamy has been there since twenty sixteen. 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Nick's is twenty sixteen. You've got veterans up there. Now 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: this will be Max Sharping's third year. You're even a 96 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: guy like Rod Johnson, even though he's a either those 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: a free agent trying to figure out what's going on 98 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: with him. He's a guy who's been around now in 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Houston for three years. Mark, to me, if there's any 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: group that's got to take that massive next step, I 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: think it's this group. With the offensive line. Well, Johnny 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, when I look at Watson and the ability 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: to lead the league in passing and cut down on 104 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: the sacks dramatically and obviously not throw many picks. I 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: mean it's all credit, not all credit, but a lot 106 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: of credit obviously to the quarterback himself, and you have 107 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: to give a piece of it to the old line. Now, 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Watson is still able to get out of trouble, you 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: know sometimes and I've heard people criticize does he hold 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the ball too much? Still? I hear some of that, 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: But look, he's Watson's fine, right, Well, Watson is fine, 112 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 1: But this line, you know, they were the starting line, 113 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: the starting five, and then I know they made changes 114 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: along the way for a team that did lead the 115 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: league in passing. So you like that. What you don't 116 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: like is the inability to run the football, and they 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: were able to do it a little bit better or 118 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: a lot better later in the year. And you can 119 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: speak better to this than I can about zone blocking 120 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: and the zone scheme and the cutbacks and all that. 121 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: David Johnson looked a lot better when they sort of 122 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: committed more to that way of doing things than what 123 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: they were doing earlier in the season. So I'm really 124 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: wondering what the style is going to be here, how 125 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: are they going to play? But when I look at 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: the tackle spots, when I look at Titus Howard and 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Laramie Tuns and then Charlie Heck is a backup with 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: Rod Johnson as an unrestricted free agent, I feel pretty 129 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: good at tackle right now. I feel like it's not 130 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: a panic situation, a better not be at tackle. After 131 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: you invest a first round draft choice, and then the 132 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: two ones in the Laramie plus the two and the 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Kenny Stills deal, we don't have to recap all that. 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: So you feel good about tackle with Heck as a 135 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: little bit of an insurance policy. But you need more 136 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: insurance because look who you were putting out there late 137 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: in the season. You had Heck and Rod Johnson out 138 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: there as your starters and you still fared well. I mean, 139 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: you could have won that last game against the Tennessee Titans. 140 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: But Nick Martin okay, center, Fine, you sign him to 141 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: that deal. And then you look at the guard situation. 142 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: They already let go of Sneil. How sharping gonna be 143 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: because they were alternating him. Do they feel good about him? 144 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: Is he really gonna be able to take that step 145 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: and folted as well, where does he fit in with 146 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: his contract? You never know what they're thinking here cap wise, 147 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: So in the interior, you definitely have some work to do, right, Yeah, 148 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: I think that's definitely right. I think the interior is 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna see some changes, and I'd like to see Max 150 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: get that confidence back and start to play as he 151 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: did as a rookie. And I know a lot of 152 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: people say, you know, you take that first year, in 153 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: the second year jump Max, he didn't make that jump 154 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: as everybody expected, and he struggled a little bit and 155 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: then he lost his confidence. And to me, Max is 156 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: a guy not unlike a lot of guys throughout the league, 157 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: in a lot of sports and a lot of businesses, 158 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: and your confidence gets shot and forget it, and then 159 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: you can't play your way through it because other guys 160 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: are stepping in front of you. But I think if 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Max steps back and just clean some things up, just 162 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: gets his confidence back, I think Max will be more 163 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: than fine at guard. But they've got to figure out 164 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: mark away. And this goes to your point about zone 165 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: blocking versus you know, some gap scheme, power schemes, you 166 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: know type of stuff there. I even said it. You know, 167 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: a guy like David Johnson, they were better served running 168 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: zone game stuff because David was a zone game runner. 169 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: He had vision for being a zone runner, not really 170 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: much else, but he was really good in the zone game. 171 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: And we started seeing that at the end of the year, like, Wow, 172 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: when they're running some zone stuff, he's pretty good. What 173 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: I also realized was that's what this offensive line was too. 174 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: It was a pretty good zone blocking line when it 175 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: was when it was all together and doing what it 176 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: needed to do. And that's not a bad thing. That's 177 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: not a bad thing at all. But I do think 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: on the interior, I do think you've got to find 179 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: somebody um that just comes in and can and can 180 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: power somebody off the ball when you need to, and 181 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: just drive somebody off the ball. And I do think 182 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: that this raft has a few guys that are that 183 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: are like that. I do. I wonder if they will 184 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: take a look at some free agency. There's one in 185 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: New England that would make a lot of sense for 186 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: this offensive line. And I might ask you about that 187 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: later and yes or no, I don't. He's gonna be pretty, 188 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be expensive. But Joe Toooney from the New 189 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: England Patriots is one of the best guards in the league, 190 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: and Nick Cassario knows him very very well, and that's 191 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: the guy that you PLoP him in. And man, you 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: feel really good now about what you would have an 193 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: offensive line. It would be expensive, and again goes back 194 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: to that point of you got a lot of resources 195 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: tied up in this in this offensive line, money, draft picks, etc. 196 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: Can you afford to do something like that or do 197 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: you need to try and find a rookie or a 198 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: young guy that could step into that role or step 199 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: into a role at guard. If Zach doesn't come back, 200 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: if the contracts were reconstructed, whatever they do, do they 201 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: need to look for somebody in that role. They've got 202 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: to find somebody that can consistently knock somebody off the ball, 203 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: whether it's zone game, whether it's power or there's some 204 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: gap scheme stuff. They've got to find somebody just knock 205 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: somebody off the ball. Mark and that I don't think 206 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: they've had on the interior in a while. I think 207 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: you'd have to go back to man Chester. I guess 208 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: maybe that's a that's a while. Oh. Brandy Brooks. Brandy 209 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: Brooks was that kind of guy. I mean, he was 210 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: just he could you know, he could do a little 211 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: bit of everything for you, and I think he's shown 212 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: that in his career. But it's probably those guys you 213 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: go back to the last time you really kind of 214 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: had somebody that you could knock. Hey, this guy's got 215 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: to knock somebody off the ball, you know, let's run 216 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: some power stuff behind him, and we just haven't had 217 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: that lately. Well, you mentioned Sharping and you know I 218 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: mentioned him too, and that I think that's a key 219 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: developmental player right there, Like where is he at from 220 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: year two to three? Didn't go as well as he 221 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: wanted from year one to two, So that that's key 222 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: because you drafted him in the second round, right you 223 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: made the investment in him. Now, I know it's a 224 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: new regime and you look at things differently right now perhaps, 225 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: but that's what Nick Cassiri has got to figure out. 226 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: Johnny on his whiteboard. He's got to figure out those things. 227 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: If I spend X on a free agent offensive lineman, 228 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: I have that much less to spend on why who's 229 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, who's becoming a free agent and how 230 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: does that all play together. He's got to work those 231 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: pieces together. It's a puzzle, and it's got to be 232 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: difficult to put together. The other thing about Nick is 233 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: and I heard Sean and Seth talking about this, and 234 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: it makes sense. You look at former Patriots out there 235 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: who might be available, right because they know them so well. 236 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: And certainly that's a factor. We've seen it so many 237 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: times in this league. You look for former people in 238 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: the division often, but Casserio hasn't been in this division. 239 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: He's been in the AFC East. I would look for 240 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: former AFC East players, all right, or players who are 241 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: becoming free agents on any one of those teams, because 242 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: you tend to sign people within your division. Well, that's 243 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: his division that he has more familiarity with than anybody 244 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: else because that's who he's been facing for the last 245 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: two decades. And the other thing is this, maybe there 246 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: are players out there that he's always loved, but Belichick 247 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to touch him for whatever reason. Belichick isn't 248 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: always right. We've seen that so many times. Maybe there's one, 249 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: two several players out there that Cassio would love to 250 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: get his hands on, but he couldn't do it in 251 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: New England. But now he can make that decision. I 252 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: want player X because I've always wanted him. Let's bring 253 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: him over. So there are a lot of different elements here, 254 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: and we're gonna analyze every move they mean. We're gonna 255 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: over analyze every move they make, of course, but that's 256 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: just what we do here. So I'm eager to see 257 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: what they put together. I mean, they've done some minor 258 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: things so far. It's kind of a calm before the storm, 259 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: setting the table of what's about to happen. March seventeenth, Yeah, 260 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: no doubt, the start of the new league year. Now, Mark, 261 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: I will tell you that I added a Patriot in 262 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: me and Drew's ultimate draft in this segment of eight picks, 263 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: I added a Patriot to my team. He can draft 264 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: one player from one organization. I drafted my patriot. In 265 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: this segment, you're about to hear who do you think. 266 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: I'll give you one guess as to who I drafted. 267 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: It was an offensive player, not the quarterback. Not the quarterback. 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: If you drafted one of all time Patriots, all time Patriots, 269 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: you drafted John Hannah, good guess, but you're wrong. Draft 270 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: did I draft? We'll do that next right here on 271 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of 272 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio mobile studio 273 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: right here at the crib. I'm your host, John Harris, 274 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: while sideline reporter. We'll get back to Mark and just 275 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: a little bit. But it is Wednesday night, so that 276 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: means it's Wednesday night Draft time. And Drew Doherty and 277 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: I have been putting together our Ultimate Draft, the Ultimate Draft. 278 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Thirty two teams, thirty two players, one pick from each team, 279 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of different levels to consider 280 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: in this actual draft. And we both have spent a 281 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: bunch of time going over this, and this was part two, 282 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: Part one. We made our first eight picks. I went 283 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: offensive line. I filled up my entire offensive line, and 284 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I went with younger franchises. I went with Jags, Tony 285 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: Bacilli went with US J. J. Watt. I went with 286 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: the Panthers Luke Keikley. So I went with younger franchises 287 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: to make sure that I got the best player possible 288 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: from the younger franchises because obviously you do the math, 289 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: there aren't as many players because you haven't played as much. 290 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: So I wanted to go offensive line, younger franchises. This one, 291 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I tried to find, and I think Drew did the 292 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: same thing franchises where there weren't as many players, and 293 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: I sort of get caught because Drew beats me to 294 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the punch on one particular pick. You'll hear that pick, 295 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: and let's just say that Drew is flying to a 296 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: particular island to make that pick, and I am completely 297 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: envious of that. But it's round two of our ultimate draft, 298 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: and Drew's got the first pick. This is tough because 299 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: I thought about franchises, I thought about what I need, 300 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: and it came down to go on from either the Raiders, 301 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, or the Jets, because I think there's pretty 302 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: big drop offs after the top one of each. Yeah, 303 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm going with the Raiders, though, because I think one 304 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: of the greatest guards of all time is somebody that 305 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: I need because I took Bruce Matthews and he might 306 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: play guard, he might play center, but he gives me flexibility, 307 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: but I want to make sure that I still I 308 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: stay stout up front. And maybe the greatest raider of 309 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: all time, maybe some people have him as the greatest 310 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: raider of all time is Gene Upshaw, the offensive lineman guard. 311 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, so many all pro teams that he made. He's, 312 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, more famous to younger fans now as being 313 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: the recent head of He's basically before DeMar Smith the 314 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: NFL Players Union. But I'm gonna go with him because 315 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: he was a phenomenal, phenomenal player. I'm taking Geane Upshaw. 316 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,119 Speaker 1: I'm bolstering my offensive line. You know, I really would 317 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: like to continue the offensive line thought, and as you said, 318 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: potentially the best guard of all time. I'm like, oh man, 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: I've got my offensive line filled out and I feel 320 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about that. One place I have 321 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: not dabbled, if you will, is in any of the 322 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: skill positions yep, or I should say ball carriers at 323 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: perimeter positions. The skillsiest guy you took was Luke Kinckley, 324 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: and he's a linebacker. Yeah. Now, he's fantastic. Don't get 325 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: me wrong. You were trenches the rest of the way 326 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I did. I want trenches. But I'm gonna go out 327 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: and I've already taken from the Vikings, so I cannot 328 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: take Randy Moss of the Vikings. However, I am going 329 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: to take Randy Moss, who I think in two thousand 330 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: and seven strung together one of the greatest seasons, if 331 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: not the greatest season receiver has ever had. He's the 332 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: freak that was his nickname. I will take the Patriots 333 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: off the board. So no Tom Brady from me, but 334 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: I am taking Patriots wide receiver Randy Moss. Interesting pick 335 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: because that means I have a choice of Brady later 336 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: on Kowski Gronkowski later and a name that not a 337 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: lot of people think about. But it was at my 338 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: disposal no matter what, because you've used up all your 339 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: offensive on it. You could use him as as a 340 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: swing guy. Now you can't. John Hannah some sort something 341 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: the greatest guard ever know and so that leaves him 342 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: on the board for you. At that point you have options. 343 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: But I was circling Randy Moss in the beginning. But 344 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: I either way, I was gonna come up with Randy Moss. 345 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: So I came up with Random McDaniel and Randy Moss, 346 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: or I could have had John Hannah and Vikings Randy Moss. 347 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: I feel okay either way with that. Although John Hannah 348 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: is pretty pretty hard good, so I'm a feeling that's 349 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: where you might go. But so good about Patriots Randy 350 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: Moss for sure. Three, I was gonna go with Vikings. 351 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna go with Vikings Randy Moss. So you've 352 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of made this easier, but you've kind of made 353 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: this harder in a way. So that's that's all right. Yeah, 354 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: the Jets, that's a tricky team. Oh that's hard. I 355 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: love Joe Namath, but I don't want Joe Namath as 356 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: my quarterback. You know, like he's the greatest Jet ever, 357 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't want him as my quarterback. No offense, Joe, 358 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: But there's I got better choices. And then you've got 359 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Mark Gastino and you've got Joe Cleco and they're really 360 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: really good players. But I've got a lot of other 361 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: elite off defensive lineman I can go with m So 362 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: I gotta. I gotta guard Randy Moss. I gotta I 363 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: got a guy like on Sanders. But you're gonna have 364 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: another good ride receiver out there. So I'm taking Durrell 365 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Reevs and I'm taking Revs Island off the board for you. 366 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Durrell Revs from the Jets as 367 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: my Jet on my roster. Now I've got two shutdown corners, 368 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: and corners are stupid, good man, We're We're not gonna 369 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: make a much tackles for lost. You're not gonna use 370 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: them on corner Blitzer so much. But I don't care 371 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: because I think my pass rush is gonna be pretty 372 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: hard and good with the guys I got, So I'm 373 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: taking Revas Island off the board. John, Yeah, your pass 374 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: resh gonna be good, but you have that you have 375 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: arguable the two best man to man cover guys that 376 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: have ever played the game. I'm gonna add a third later. 377 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: But when Randy Moss went up against Durell Rivas, Randy 378 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: Moss embarrassed him. Well, we'll put We'll put Sanders on him. 379 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: He got a options. Yeah, you don't go from Durrell revs. 380 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: To like buster screen, you go from Darell reevs. Dion Sanders. 381 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: All Right, Drew, you mentioned earlier there are some teams 382 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: to consider as it pertains to players that there aren't 383 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: too many. The Jets one of them, Durrell Reeves find 384 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: is absolutely phenomenal, and I give you a lot of 385 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: credit for that. That was that was a great one. 386 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: The Cardinals, to me, are a team that kind of 387 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: fits into the same category. Yeah, but I'm not gonna 388 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: take Larry Fitzgerald Okay, I'm gonna take a guy that 389 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: probably not a lot of people have heard about, but 390 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: he was one of my idols growing up in some 391 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: sense because he once played a game with two broken 392 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: hands and actually had an interception in that game. And 393 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: he invented the safety blitz for the Cardinals, and this 394 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: was when they were in Saint Louis, but it was 395 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I am taking safety Larry Wilson. Oh, okay, good. 396 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say my guy. So that's 397 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: that's good. Really, Yeah, I think it was gonna be 398 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: somebody else who played with two broken hands in a 399 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: game for the car He might have. I don't know 400 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: that he did, but it wouldn't have surprised me because 401 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: he's he's an all timer. So all right, I'm going 402 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: with Larry Wilson, Hall of Fame safety for the Saint 403 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: Louis Arizona's Chicago Cardinals. Larry Wilson. It won't resonate too 404 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: much with the younger folk, but he was He was 405 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: Troy Polamalu before Troy Polamalu. How about that. Yeah? He 406 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: could also gone with Dan Deardorf. Great, right now, my 407 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: offensive line was already good. I thought about it. Yeah, 408 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: set yep. Or you could have gone with my guy 409 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: who played with the Cardinals in Chicago. But I'm gonna 410 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: talk about that later, So we'll go. We'll go down 411 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: that route in a bit. Boy, you're making it tough. 412 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: I don't have any linebackers yet, and I have to 413 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: have one of these two guys. It's a non negotiable. 414 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with the greatest raven ever. I'm 415 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: gonna go with ray Lewis. It's gonna leave you with 416 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: lots of options. Two you have two like lead pipe 417 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: cinches you could take elsewhere, even though your offensive line 418 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: is set. You got a guy and then you got 419 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: another guy. But I need a linebacker, and I'm gonna 420 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: go with ray Lewis. That does leave a lot open 421 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: to say, at least I'm yeah, that's that's a good one, 422 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: all right. My thought process the other day was I 423 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: wanted to as much as I possibly could go with 424 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: the younger franchises, and for a long time while we 425 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: were growing up, there weren't too many new franchise until 426 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Panthers. Well, I got players from 427 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: both of them, and I got my Texans so I 428 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: think I've got the youngest team. The next youngest team 429 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: actually came in a pair. You got one of those, 430 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, the others the Buccaneers. This is tough. And 431 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: when you mentioned linebacker, I jumped all over a guy. 432 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: This is the guy that I had top of my 433 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: list for this team, because yes, there's a guy that 434 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I could go with on the interior line I didn't 435 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: want to do. Actually two that you could have gone 436 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: with what the Bucks and you would have been okay. 437 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: But to me, I think one of the greatest and 438 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: most underrated linebackers of all time. I'm gonna take right here, 439 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: and that's Derek Brooks. Okay, nobody ran with Michael Vick, 440 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: but the Buccaneers beat Vic all the time because Derek 441 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: Brooks could run with him. With the Buccaneers, I'm taking 442 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: Derek Brooks. He was one of my top picks and 443 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that I that I got him. 444 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: So I'm jumping right here at Derek Brooks, linebacker. Put 445 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: it next to Keikley. We can fly to the football. 446 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm taking Keikley and Brooks. All right, boy, Now it's 447 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: getting tough because we've eliminated a lot of these franchises. Yes, 448 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: this is where you stare at your board and you're like, Okay, 449 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: I had a philosophy going in. I'm gonna stick to 450 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: my philosophy. What am I going with? I gotta do it. 451 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: He's he was my favorite player when I was a 452 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: little kid, and Jim Brown loves this guy. Because of 453 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: who you've chosen, I've got lots of flexibility at the 454 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: back part, but I want to make sure that he's 455 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: off the board, and I'm choosing sweetness Walter Payton of 456 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: the Bears. Uh. It came down to him. It came 457 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: down to it was either him or Dick but Kiss. 458 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: I had to have Ray Lewis or Dick Butkiss. And 459 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I just I want to make sure I got Walter 460 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: Payton because he can do so many different things. He's 461 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: a great running back. He give me your putter quarterback, 462 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: wildcat quarterback. Yeah, yeah, I just I love him too much, 463 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, I want to make sure he's my guy. 464 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: He's on my team. He was the he was the 465 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: all time NFL rushing leader. He will always be. I 466 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: have the two all time NFL rushing leaders. Whatever. Emmett Smith, 467 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: who cares. You're not fund if you're not in their league. 468 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, that's wow, that's that's a good one. 469 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: I'll I'll take my cap down one because now you 470 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: have Jim Brown and Walter Payton in your back. That's uh, 471 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: that's pretty solid. There's no question about that. Okay. Um, 472 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: you know you took Ray Lewis, which leaves the Ravens 473 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: for me. And there's a lot of different ways you could. 474 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: I could go here, Jonathan Ogden, I would I loved 475 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of Jonathan Ogden. But I've 476 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: got my offensive line right now. But Larry Wilson was 477 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: a ball hawk, but he was also a guy who 478 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: could blitz. You can play around the box. The best 479 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: ball hawk. There's a guy. I'm gonna just go ahead 480 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: and do it now, even though I could probably go 481 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: a few other teams if I looked at it, teams 482 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: that we haven't selected from. But I feel good at 483 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: safety enough that I will go with, let me be clear, 484 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: Ravens haul of famer Ed Reid. That's a good choice. 485 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. Yeah, I'll take it. 486 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: You've got Ed Reid. We've made four selections each today, 487 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: so we're halfway through this draft. Now it's getting really 488 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: serious because we've not neither of us has chosen a Bill, 489 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: a Steeler, a cult, a Bronco, a Charger, a Chief, 490 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: a Redskin, a Saint, or a forty nine er. Almost 491 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: said a Buccaneer, but you took the buccant board. Yeah, 492 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: um m m mmmmmm. Who is someone that I must 493 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: have that? There's just no way that this is tough 494 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: like right now. This is because you've got so many 495 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: options with the forty nine ers, with the Steelers, and 496 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: with the Redskins to a degree, but especially the Steelers 497 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers. Oh, I know exactly where 498 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm going with my next pick, do you. Yeah, But 499 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: it's your pick, so I so I can't. I can't 500 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: do it, but I know exactly where I'm gonna go. 501 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: I can put this card in a two seconds when 502 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: you're done, all right, I'll get my kicker Saints Martin Anderson. 503 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: All right, there are a lot of Hall of Fame 504 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: players that came out of the Lady eighties early nineties Bills. 505 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the best one. I'm gonna take Bruce 506 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: Smith impairing with J. J. Watton, Aaron Donald, damn good 507 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: one that takes Starman Thomas off the board. I was 508 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: a huge Starman fan, so really so yeah, I take 509 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith. So the bills come off the board, leaving 510 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: me one picking at the vision from the Jets. I'm 511 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to do some studying on the Jets, man. 512 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: I gotta try and find somebody that, ah, that might 513 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: be a spot for a punter or a kicker. I 514 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm have to think that one through. We 515 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: got three picks left, is that right? Three picks left? 516 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: In this episode? Here we go? All right Steelers. Golly, 517 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: this is so hard for me. I go Rod Woodson 518 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: because I want a Ballhawk. Oh yeah, position. But I 519 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: got a couple other guys that I'm gonna putting the 520 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: secondary that I know of that you've already chosen from 521 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: other teams. So it comes down to getting the greatest 522 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: center ever, Mike Webster or mean Joe Green. I gotta 523 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. I'm gonna mean Joe Green. Oh 524 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: dang it, I was hoping you're gonna talk to yourself 525 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: in on Mike Webster. Nope, I really wanted you to 526 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: do that. So you're up. All right, Well, I gotta 527 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: find somebody that can cover. And even though there's a long, 528 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: rich history for the Washington football team, I had it 529 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: kind of gone back and forth about what I demand 530 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: and I got on my offensive lineman and so I'm like, ah, oh, 531 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: then it hit me, Oh man, I'm going with the 532 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: very last pick in the nineteen eighty three first round, 533 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: and he will be my lockdown corner. I'm gonna go 534 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: with Daryl Green from the Washington football team, solid from 535 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: the great state of Texas. Yep, that is right. I 536 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: was struggling with what I was gonna do with Washington. 537 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: I had a few options, but I didn't love them. 538 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: And then I thought, man, I need some cover guys, 539 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: and I oh man, and then it hit me. So 540 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: I'll take Darryl Green so I know I can run. 541 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: That I can do and hopefully it will cover. But yeah, 542 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: I can run. I love Joe Montana. Oh or you 543 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: go or you dipping into the quarterbacks. We have not 544 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: gone to the court acts. I love Joe Montana, but 545 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: I gotta get Ronnie Lott off the stask Oh that's huge. Yeah, 546 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: that is absolutely insanely massive. Okay, Okay, so you that. Yeah, 547 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: that's good. So you took forty nine ers, Ronny Lott, Right, Yes, 548 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: I did well. That leaves that'd leaves some really good 549 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: forty nine ers on the board for me, And it 550 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: makes me think, do I want to add Jerry Rice 551 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: from the forty nine ers and put him with Randy Moss? Hell? Yeah, 552 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do that. I'm going 553 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm following you, but I'm like, yeah, I could really 554 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: wait if I wanted to, But I'll take argue with 555 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: the two best receivers of all time. I'll take Randy 556 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Moss Patriots, Jerry Rice, forty nine ers. That's my selection. 557 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: There we go, all right, my final pick? Huh? Last one? 558 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: All right? We've got a Colt, a Bronco, a Charger 559 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: in a chief, as well as a bunch of others, 560 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: but nobody has chosen any of them. What do I 561 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: want to do here? I'm gonna leave things open. They've 562 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: all got aside from the Chargers. I love Dan Fouts, 563 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: but he's not a quarterback that you can really nah 564 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: and trust this team too, And I still am gonna 565 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: wait on my quarterback. You know, I don't have a 566 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: tight end yet I'm gonna get Travis Kelsey from the Chiefs. 567 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and over Tony Gonzalez, over 568 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: Kellen Winslow. It's gonna go ahead and do it over 569 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: os Us. Why already took you have a brown? Yeah? 570 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're good. All right, try to look at 571 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: best available on my board. So this is this is 572 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: the mister irrelevant pick of Day two. As I sort 573 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: of look at this, and I know when you hear 574 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: this name come out of my mouth, you're gonna go, 575 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: uh wait, hold on. But I don't want to draft 576 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: the punter, and I definitely don't want to draft a kicker. 577 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: And I'm in the business a drafting former m vps 578 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: in the league. And you know how I like versatility, 579 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: like guys that can play a lot of for positions. Yeah. 580 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: He won the nineteen fifty six Heisman Trophy at Notre 581 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: Dame playing quarterback. He came to the league and played 582 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: running back. He was the MVP of the league in 583 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: sixty two. He also kicked extra points and fuel goals 584 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: from the Packers. I am taking Paul Horning because I 585 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: know I can do a lot different things with him 586 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: and a Heisman Trophy winner on a losing Notre Dame team, 587 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: only one to ever win from losing team, and he 588 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: will own he will be the only one to win 589 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: from losing team. But that satisfies both my kicking aspect. 590 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: I can't have him punt, but I don't have to 591 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: draft the kicker now, and so I can have Paul 592 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: Horning kick. He catches, he runs, you can even throw. 593 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: He's my Wildcat quarterback. He's everything. I'm going Paul Horning 594 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: as my packer. Good choice. Okay, So to recap, I 595 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: started things off today. I went with Geane Upshaw, left 596 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: guard from the Raiders. You countered with Randy Moss of 597 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots. So he took Moss off the board. He 598 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: also took a Patriot off the board, and he opened 599 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: it up for me to choose either Brady Gronkowski, Hannah 600 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: or a wild card, which I'm not gonna do. Then 601 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: I chose Darrell Reevas of the Jets at corner. You 602 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: went with Larry Wilson, the Cardinals safety. Then I went 603 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: with Ray Lewis, linebacker of the Ravens. You went a linebacker. 604 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: You went to the Buccaneers. Derek Brooks, probably the greatest 605 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: buccaneer ever he or Warren sat Yeah, uh, Walter Payton. 606 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I had to have sweetness on my team. I made 607 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: an apology sport. You went with Ed Reid of the 608 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Ravens safety. I got my kicker out of the way 609 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: with Morton Anderson from the Saints, and then you went 610 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: with Bruce Smith, which was an overst I should have gotten. 611 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: That's why I should have gone with That was kind 612 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: of a dumb move by me. I rebounded, though, I 613 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: got me and Joe Green from the Steelers on the 614 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: interior of the defensive line. You went with Daryl green Corner, 615 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: one of the fastest men ever from the Washington football team. 616 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: I chose a safety in Ronnie lot In that left 617 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice open, so the forty nine ers are off 618 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: the board. And then I wrap things up with it's 619 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: probably controversial pick Travis Kelsey tight end to the Chiefs. 620 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of great Chiefs and I'm picking that guy. Well, 621 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: it's sort of what my team needs and what I want. 622 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: And then you went with Paul Horning, a guy who 623 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: could do it all from the Packers. He's gonna make 624 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: plays for your team. And by the way, I don't 625 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: argue with your Kelsey pick at all. I have no 626 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: I have no calls with there. There's some there's some good. 627 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: There's some good Chiefs, and there might even be some 628 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: might think a more decorated Chiefs tight end and Tony Gonzalez. 629 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: But I'd take Kelsey all day, every day. I think 630 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: he's more underrated great players ever. Yeah, matchup wise, he's 631 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem with the two guys I got 632 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: in the backfield and then Calvin Johnson out there on 633 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: the edge, plus some of the guys I'm gonna ad later. Yes, 634 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: that is Drew cackling, believing that he has got the 635 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: better squad. He's got one great pick into us. But 636 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: I've got the better squad. I mean amount receivers are 637 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and Randy Moss, and my offensive line is outstanding, 638 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: led by Anthony Munio's number one overall pick. We've got 639 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: sixteen picks left two different episodes. Who don't want to 640 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: miss it. I already know eleven of my sixteen final 641 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: picks because they're coming from teams that Drew has already picked. 642 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: So it's leaving me everybody at my disposal. So I've 643 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: looked at who I have where I need to go, 644 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: and I got it all set ready to go. You 645 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: don't want to miss that. You also don't want to 646 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: miss the next segment, Mark vandermir and I play a 647 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: little free Agent Yes or No? That's next on Texans 648 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: All Access. One final segment of Texans All Access. On 649 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: this wonderful Wednesday evening, I'm your host, John Harris alongside 650 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: the voice of the Texans, Mark Vandermer and Mark, it 651 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: was Randy Moss. That's why I picked from the Patriots 652 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: for my squad. What do you think? All right? Great, 653 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: great play to pick Johnny. But it's funny because I 654 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: didn't even look at him as a Patriot. I look 655 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: at him as more of a Viking than a Patriot. 656 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: But I know he played with the Patriots and they 657 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: went sixteen to zero and they could have gotten nineteen 658 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: to oz and they didn't. And I know the rest 659 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: of the story. I'll give you another great offensive wide receiver, 660 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: offensive player wide receiver for the Patriots, who wouldn't be 661 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: a bad player to pick at all. In fact, I 662 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: still think he leads in almost every receiving category almost 663 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: that they have all time, and their franchise as great 664 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: as they've been lately. By lately, I mean the last 665 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: two decades. Stan still dominates their record book in a 666 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: way that is freaky. The numbers hold up today. He 667 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: was such an outstanding receiver and Steve Grogan threw him passes. 668 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: Tony eastn't even Dug Flutie a little bit. He was 669 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: a great receiver. Now Drew has not drafted his Patriot yet, 670 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: so he's still he could draft Tom Brady. Neither one 671 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: of us have a quarterback yet, so we've got yeah, 672 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: we got we got work to do. But man, it's 673 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: it's getting it's getting tight. That draft has been really fun. 674 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: All right, you're time for you? Are you ready for 675 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: a little yes or no? I throw a topic or 676 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: a question at you. You say yes or no. You 677 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: can back it up. You can just say yes or no. 678 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: You can explain. It's up to you. This one is 679 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: called free agent Friday. On a Wednesday, I don't know. 680 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: I thought about literation and realized it was Wednesday, not Friday. 681 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw at you some free agents, and you 682 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: tell me whether yes for the Texans, no for the Texans, 683 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: and your reasoning for that particular decision. All right, here 684 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: we go arguably the number one free agent wide receiver 685 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson. The second yes or no? Well, you know, 686 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: you and I talked about this the other day. I 687 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: think the question is can you afford Hammond Fuller? You know, 688 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: so I have to have a little asterisk there I need. 689 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: I mean, if I don't have Fuller back, I need 690 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: another player right along with Cooks and Cobb. And I 691 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with either of those guys, 692 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: with the contract situations being what they are and all that. 693 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: But here we are in February, still making these assessments. 694 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: I would say, Johnny, I know I eliminated them maybe 695 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: from this thing, but those are the rule. Okay. So 696 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: let's say I really want Watson and Fuller to play together. Okay, 697 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: all right, I understand, all right, this would be a 698 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: good one. Linebacker Lavante David, Yes or no? And the 699 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: prediction from what I'm looking at PFF they say Tampa 700 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. The contract they say is three years, forty 701 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: million dollars. Lavante David. Now he's a little a little 702 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: longer in the tooth than some others. Man Lamante David. 703 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: And the fourth three was Zach Cunningham could be really 704 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: fun Lamante David, Yes or no, No, because I can't 705 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: afford that. I can't. I'm already paying Cunningham and McKinney, 706 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do about this situation 707 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: going into a potential for three and again, the Texans 708 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: haven't said anything, but we're just sort of figuring out 709 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with Lovey coming in and all 710 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: of that. So I just don't think that that's a 711 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: player you can afford to have. I love him, he's 712 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: a great player, but no, I gotta work it out here. 713 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: You know. Certainly Cunningham's gonna be here. We'll see how 714 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: they put it together. But if I'm gonna spend that 715 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: kind of money, I gotta reserve it for the guys 716 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: behind the linebacking crew. Okay, let's go to the offensive line. 717 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: A guy we just mentioned on the first segment, guard 718 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, played for the Patriots was France. I think 719 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: it was Franchise maybe last year. He is an undrestricted 720 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: free agent. PFF says. The projection is four years, fifty 721 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: seven million dollars contract, thirty five million guaranteed. It's a 722 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: lot for a guard. However, he's one of the top three, 723 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: top two or three in the league. Joe Thuney and Texan. 724 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: Yes or no, I'm gonna say yes. And I know 725 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: it's relatively expensive and you already have a lot invested there, 726 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: but you'd have to make some moves clearly to accommodate 727 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: him financially and otherwise. So assuming those could get done, 728 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: of course i'd want a player like Joe Tuney Houston Texans. Yes, 729 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: years old, I know, and I think you still got 730 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: some really good football. All right. This one brings back 731 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: a well a University Houston Cougar homeboy, and you mentioned it, 732 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: cornerback William Jackson. The third projection for a contract is 733 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: three years, forty million dollars. I think it's roughly about 734 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: what Robi makes William Jackson the third corner for the Texans. 735 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: Yes or no, I'm gonna say yes. I'm spending money 736 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: like it's going out of style here, Johnny. That's what 737 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: you're doing. I've got I've got to make some substantial 738 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: investments on this football team, and this is one of them. 739 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: All right, this is a play you bring him in. 740 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: Robie's still under contract, by the way, ladies and gentlemen. Again, 741 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: you don't know what they're gonna do, how it's playing out. 742 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: It's February. I have to always disclaimer this stuff when 743 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: we talk about players on the roster right now before 744 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: the league year begins. But my answer to that question 745 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: would be yes, I'll take you up on that. I 746 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: think the money's good. I think he's a young player. 747 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: He's not even thirty yet, so let's go all right. 748 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: This next player is probably no bigger than Vander Kidd 749 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: number one, but I have said that I think he 750 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: is the best at a particular position in NFL. PFF 751 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: has projected his contract to be just three years at 752 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars, and he actually made a massive play 753 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: against us, and he's made many in the two times 754 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: that we've seen him. Yes or no, cornerback slash Nickel 755 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: Mike Hilton of the Pittsburgh Steelers as a Texan, Oh, 756 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: I'd like him a lot. Wait, wait, what's the projected 757 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: contract though? Three years, twelve million, that's it. That's it, Mark. 758 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: If that's the case, I do that in a quick second. 759 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't even wait. I'm like yes, I'm hitting that 760 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: yes button all day long. I'm Mike Hilton. Well I 761 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: think he's also he's one of those guys that you 762 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: want playing with the other guys in elevating their play. Right. 763 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: He rubs off on other people his energy, his intensity. Uh, 764 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: he's impossible not to notice out there. It's funny how 765 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: sometimes those smaller guys other ones were impossible not to notice. 766 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, flying all around. He's got that Tasmanian devil 767 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: ability to just be in multiple places during the same play. 768 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: I love him, and yes, I'll take you up on that. 769 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: So I know I've just spent my whole budget, but 770 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, pause, I'm taking one at a time here. Yes, 771 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: but I still think that my yeses. I could afford 772 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: all my yeses with certain moves and still stay under 773 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: the cap. How about that? Okay, I ask you. We'll 774 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: end on this one, all right? And I don't I 775 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: can't remember if you've seen this guy play. Maybe maybe 776 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: you've seen him play, so I don't know. Jademon Clowney 777 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: projection one year, thirteen million dollars, fully guarantee. It's almost 778 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: like you're franchising him at a much lower number. Yes 779 00:41:54,760 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: or no. Look, imagine could you have iagine if they 780 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: did this. Well, Look, he Johnny doesn't stay healthy, okay, 781 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: And I know that he's kind of a folk hero 782 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: now in Houston. Yes, I think people liked him better 783 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: out the door than they liked him when they were here. 784 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: When I say people, I mean some of the fans 785 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: and the media. Yeah, when he was here, it was 786 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: always like you're not doing enough? Yes, And then when 787 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: he goes, how could you let him go? You know, 788 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: it just it doesn't make any sense. But I don't 789 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: think they would do it. And I think that the 790 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: injury issues and it's just nagging stuff that keeps him 791 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: off the field. When he's out there, I love him 792 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: when he's not, obviously he's not helping you. And you know, 793 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: that kind of money for him might not be crazy, 794 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: it's not crazy, but I don't think you could afford 795 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: that luxury right now. You gotta, really, you gotta. You 796 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: need building blocks right now. You gotta build strong with 797 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: guys who are gonna be out there. That's kind of 798 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: a luxury purchase for a team that's close, right That's 799 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: how I look at a Jedeveon Clouney right now, and 800 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 1: I love him. I think, Look, I'll never forget to 801 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: play against Oaklin in the playoffs, and you know the 802 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: other plays he made, the strip of Andrew Luck up 803 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen up there. I mean, he's been a 804 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: definite key contributor to this franchise, but I gotta pass 805 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: on this one. That's I think. I think you're probably 806 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: right about that. The injury issue is bigger than we think. 807 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: And he's now. He even spent last the end of 808 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: last year going through an injury issue. So very well done, Mark. 809 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: You spent a lot of good money. I'm very happy 810 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: with how you went about it, and I appreciate your 811 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: time tonight, my friend. Thank you very much. Thank you, Johnny. 812 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it big. Thanks to Mark, 813 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: to Drew, to all of you for listen. Thank you 814 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: so much. We'll see you next time. It has always 815 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: go Texans.