Speaker 1: Ben Higgins and Ashley I bring you Infamous. Sometimes roses
Speaker 1: are red flags. Everybody, it's been today, I'm taking over
Speaker 1: and I'm here for another episode of Infamous. Sometimes roses
Speaker 1: are red flags. Today, I might just have one of
Speaker 1: the most memorable people to come out of the Bachelor
Speaker 1: universe in the last decade. She was infamous for napping,
Speaker 1: she was infamous for her brief time on Paradise, a
Speaker 1: true legend from Nick Viles season of The Bachelor, and
Speaker 1: somebody who's done a lot since then. Of course, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Krinn Olympios. Krinn, Welcome to the show. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm back, Kriinn. I have a lot to talk to
Speaker 1: you about. A lot I want to catch up with
Speaker 1: you on but I want to start by asking you
Speaker 1: a very direct question. Would you say you are the
Speaker 1: best villain to ever come out of the Bachelor franchise?
Speaker 2: I absolutely would say that.
Speaker 1: My next question then is, Okay, I'll ask you this question.
Speaker 1: Then I'll tell you why I'm asking it. What does
Speaker 1: a villain mean to you? Like, how do you describe
Speaker 1: a villain?
Speaker 2: Well, a villain? Honestly, I think it's kind of like
Speaker 2: a running joke with me because like I say, I'm
Speaker 2: like the greatest villain to ever come off the show.
Speaker 2: But I don't really consider myself an actual villain. I'm
Speaker 2: more of a villain as in, like I'm going to
Speaker 2: do and say what I like feel and if you
Speaker 2: come at me, like I'll come back at you. But
Speaker 2: I'm never going to start any drama with anyone. I'm
Speaker 2: never gonna be like going at anyone for no reason
Speaker 2: or starting drama on my own. It's more of just
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna do and be me, but like if
Speaker 2: you come for me, you'll be sorry.
Speaker 1: See That's where I was coming at because I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess we can throw you in that villain category
Speaker 1: because there was like some polarization I guess from next
Speaker 1: season with you. People talked about you a lot, people
Speaker 1: were super into it. But you were the first villain
Speaker 1: that I think made Bachelor Nation question like what are
Speaker 1: we determining as a villain or not because you weren't
Speaker 1: like mean, and I think that was historically what we met.
Speaker 1: And then I look at my season, which was the
Speaker 1: year before with Olivia COAREDI who also was not a
Speaker 1: villain but got kind of defined as a villain, but
Speaker 1: wasn't mean just polarizing.
Speaker 2: I think, like because I still feel like I can't
Speaker 2: believe that it was this long ago, but like eight
Speaker 2: years ago, like reality TV was kind of just like
Speaker 2: popping off, and social media was just becoming a thing
Speaker 2: for us on reality TV, and like it was kind
Speaker 2: of all like snowballing at that time. So I feel
Speaker 2: like at that time, no one really knew how to
Speaker 2: categorize villains properly. So it's like, oh, she's different. She's
Speaker 2: like saying like out of pocket and like she's a villain,
Speaker 2: But like I wasn't really the villain. Taylor Nolan was
Speaker 2: the villain going at me and going at me and
Speaker 2: going at me, talking behind my back. I'm sitting right
Speaker 2: there and she's like whispering behind my back, and I'm
Speaker 2: just like I'm not dealing with that. But once she
Speaker 2: came from me and said something to me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, you're done, honey, You're done.
Speaker 1: So was the response in the house, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean it's been a bit. Was the response in the
Speaker 1: house supportive of you? Or did it feel like you
Speaker 1: were on your own little island?
Speaker 2: It's crazy because like Vanessa and Jasmine, Sorry, it's been
Speaker 2: a long time. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But like the girls like and I got along really well.
Speaker 2: Like the only girl that like literally didn't hang out
Speaker 2: with me, like on or off camera was Taylor, Like,
Speaker 2: and what's that girl's name, Sarah van Dahl? I think
Speaker 2: she has like the really big freaky smile. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: were the only ones that really didn't like hang out
Speaker 2: with me off camera. But like when the cameras were up,
Speaker 2: like Vanessa and like all of them were kind of
Speaker 2: just like talking so much about me. And I was
Speaker 2: kind of shocked when the season aired because I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: you guys were like acting like you were like my
Speaker 2: best friends and all that. And it's crazy because I
Speaker 2: was never like like that or fake like that. I
Speaker 2: was always like real. So I'm like, y'all are the
Speaker 2: real villains here.
Speaker 1: The we do infamous right now because right now we're
Speaker 1: trying to peel behind the curtain, get behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Hear from the people who did kind of have that
Speaker 1: moment watching it back me like I don't I didn't
Speaker 1: know that or I don't remember it that way. When
Speaker 1: you watched your season back, did you feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: there were things I mean outside of people talking behind
Speaker 1: your back that you didn't know of. Was there shocking
Speaker 1: moments that you remember going that isn't how it happened?
Speaker 1: Or do you feel like you were accurately portrayed throughout?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, no, no, yes, there were How do
Speaker 2: I put this? Let me think? Okay, yes, okay. People
Speaker 2: ask me all the time. Is the show scripted and
Speaker 2: is it like exactly what we see? No, it's not scripted,
Speaker 2: but it's real. It's all us. But like, no, it's
Speaker 2: not exactly what you see. Like, there were things that
Speaker 2: I saw that I was like, whoa, They really put
Speaker 2: that like out of context and this is going to
Speaker 2: be taken so not how it actually was. Some things,
Speaker 2: for instance, were when I went to Nick Faiau's hotel
Speaker 2: room that night, they really portrayed it as like I
Speaker 2: was going there to have sex with him that night,
Speaker 2: and that's so was not the vibe. I was in
Speaker 2: my sweatpants. I gave a whole speech on how I
Speaker 2: felt misunderstood and wanted to have a conversation. They portrayed
Speaker 2: it as like Karenna is going to have sex and
Speaker 2: I remember being so confused when Nick was like we
Speaker 2: shouldn't do this, and I was like, I am not
Speaker 2: here for that. What is happening? And there were just
Speaker 2: like a bunch of other times like that as well.
Speaker 2: Not to out the show or anything, but.
Speaker 1: Not to out the show. But I think it's only
Speaker 1: fair at some point for those who maybe I can't
Speaker 1: even say you didn't have a good experience on the show,
Speaker 1: because the show has been great for you, and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about all those things here. But the
Speaker 1: big scene that people loved and remembered and I found,
Speaker 1: coming a year off of my season absolutely wild that
Speaker 1: you made this choice was the nap during the Rose ceremony.
Speaker 1: I think you and I are very different in the
Speaker 1: sense that I went on the show and was so
Speaker 1: nervous the whole time that I couldn't really have fun
Speaker 1: and relax and be myself. It felt like you really
Speaker 1: went on and continue to go on television and can
Speaker 1: really be yourself and relax. And I'm intrigued by where
Speaker 1: that comes from if that is true. But then also,
Speaker 1: can you elaborate on the napping scene because there were
Speaker 1: many producers, many camera people, many contestants right there probably
Speaker 1: confused by it as well, and it was a bold choice.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it was where do I start? Because this
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a layered moment again, scenes
Speaker 2: where things just didn't go as planned or wasn't shown
Speaker 2: as planned. That night was trench coat night, as I
Speaker 2: call it, and I don't know if you remember, but
Speaker 2: I came downstairs in her trench coat and lingerie. It
Speaker 2: was Nick's birthday. I was trying to be cute again,
Speaker 2: just went I. That was probably my fault. I should
Speaker 2: have been like, this probably will look so stupid, but
Speaker 2: you know what, DEMI copied me, so I must have
Speaker 2: made an imprint on something and people loved it. I
Speaker 2: don't know whatever I felt like that night. I was like,
Speaker 2: this did not go as planned. I look so dumb.
Speaker 2: And I was kind of like upset with the producers
Speaker 2: about something that night. And I was also upset because
Speaker 2: the girls were like Korean's taking all the time, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, starting to get pissed at me,
Speaker 2: and then when I would just like sit in the
Speaker 2: corner or take a nap, they would be pissed. Also,
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, which is it. Do you want me
Speaker 2: around or do you not? I just had a sty night,
Speaker 2: like I have my rose from the group date. I'm
Speaker 2: not dealing with this again, authentic myself. That's what I
Speaker 2: would do if I was in a situation like that
Speaker 2: in real life, I would leave and go home and
Speaker 2: go to sleep. So I just was like, I'm removing myself.
Speaker 2: I'm upset. I was crying. I was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: doing it, Like these girls are all like talking about
Speaker 2: me and I just had a sheep night. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing it. So I went to sleep.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you went to sleep peacefully. I don't remember
Speaker 1: how did it play out. Did people come up and
Speaker 1: try to wake you up?
Speaker 2: I think Nick came into the room. It was like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Hee you? I'm sleeping.
Speaker 1: It is It is interesting because some of those relatable moments,
Speaker 1: and I would consider that a relatable moment because I
Speaker 1: think people watching would go, hey, it was his birthday.
Speaker 1: She was trying to be uh sweet or kind or.
Speaker 2: I was trying to be hot, trying to be hot,
Speaker 2: and I was trying to be different, and it just
Speaker 2: it did not It did not go The producers told
Speaker 2: me they were doing something else. They lied to me
Speaker 2: about something, and it got up and I wound up
Speaker 2: like pulling Nick outside, and it just like wasn't didn't
Speaker 2: match the vibe of me, like being in the trench coat.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a joke. I was like,
Speaker 2: like in a trench coat at lingerie, but like along
Speaker 2: the line, something got messed up. I was pissed at
Speaker 2: the producers and like I just looked stupid because they
Speaker 2: didn't do what they said they had done, so like
Speaker 2: it didn't make sense that I was in a tract coat.
Speaker 2: So I was just like annoyed and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: now I look stupid. And that's when I like essentially
Speaker 2: stopped listening to the producers and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: you guys are not on my side.
Speaker 1: And you've been on a couple of the shows since
Speaker 1: your time on The Bachelor. You've definitely made a name
Speaker 1: for yourself. You know, when everybody comes off the show,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they talk to whoever their agent is
Speaker 1: a representation. I'm sure every Bachelor contestant says, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just want to do things outside of the franchise. That
Speaker 1: is a very common thing. It doesn't always happen, but
Speaker 1: for you, you really have done a lot, and so
Speaker 1: has Nick and We're going to talk about Nick and
Speaker 1: his resurgence here in just a bit. But for you,
Speaker 1: you have really made a name for yourself outside the show.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like your experience on The Bachelor prepared
Speaker 1: you for these other shows? Are they at all similar?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Not The Bachelor? Like when I got to uh, okay,
Speaker 2: so I've done I've done shows. Sorry, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: like answer these properly because there's so much like, No,
Speaker 2: a Bachelor did not prepare me.
Speaker 1: You're trying to be proper here, but when it comes
Speaker 1: to beyond national television, you say, screw it, let's just
Speaker 1: rock and roll.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the Bachelor, no, not prepare me for other shows.
Speaker 2: I've the next like major show kind of like like
Speaker 2: The Bachelor that I did, I guess you could say
Speaker 2: was house of villains, like big production, big deal, other
Speaker 2: reality stars. At that point, I was like, literally, what
Speaker 2: the like, I was not prepared for this at all.
Speaker 2: I was not ready because again, I'm not a real villain.
Speaker 2: All of them went in with a strategy. I'm like,
Speaker 2: let's all be friends. New York is like FK, youw
Speaker 2: We're not friends. I'm like, WHOA, this is like not it.
Speaker 2: I like, by the way, me and New York are
Speaker 2: very good friends, but I'm just like trying to get
Speaker 2: everyone to get along. I'm like not good at competitions.
Speaker 2: Like I almost like was like so unprepared for The Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Totally different deal. They did not prepare me over there
Speaker 2: for like what real reality TV is like and competition
Speaker 2: shows are like absolutely not because again I didn't treat
Speaker 2: The Bachelor like a competition. I feel like nowadays this
Speaker 2: show is really treated like a competition. Like people come
Speaker 2: up to me and they're like, did you win? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, it's not something you win, Okay, you
Speaker 2: fall in love. I'm sorry that people are ruining this
Speaker 2: show and the show sucks now in my opinion, but
Speaker 2: it's not something you can win.
Speaker 1: You don't win it. But speaking of love, you did
Speaker 1: go on next season?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: Did you go into the season believing that Nick was
Speaker 1: somebody you potentially could be interested in?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? At the time, like I literally was like I'm
Speaker 2: marrying him?
Speaker 1: And when did that change or did it ever change?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like being on the show and like
Speaker 2: filming it, you're not thinking. I mean, at least for me,
Speaker 2: you're not thinking like, oh, I just like need to
Speaker 2: be here. I mean like after I guess you could say,
Speaker 2: like after he didn't pick me, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not marrying him?
Speaker 1: Mmm? You know, so did your feelings fade? Like if
Speaker 1: you would have picked you, would you have like could
Speaker 1: you believe you could have continued on?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I would like to think that, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's like the hope of being on the show is
Speaker 2: that you meet the person that you want to marry
Speaker 2: and you stay with them and it works out. I mean,
Speaker 2: our show's track record isn't that great, but you know,
Speaker 2: you hope for the best. I mean, like, didn't you
Speaker 2: think that you were going to stay with who was it? Lauren?
Speaker 2: M No, you do.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 2: You really do believe it. You think you're going to
Speaker 2: be with them.
Speaker 1: I had girls that were on the season that also
Speaker 1: left because they had said, no, this is not for me.
Speaker 1: So my question was more around did you believe it
Speaker 1: until the very end when he said goodbye? Or were
Speaker 1: you one foot in one foot out?
Speaker 2: No? No, I was. I was fully in the whole time.
Speaker 2: And that's the God's honest truth.
Speaker 1: And then when you go on like House of Villains,
Speaker 1: it's very different because you're not going there for the romance. Correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, honestly, like it's so crazy because
Speaker 2: I remember like getting there and being like, okay, like
Speaker 2: the pressure's not on, like I'm not dating anyone here,
Speaker 2: and like I don't like I just need to focus
Speaker 2: on Like honestly, I wasn't even prepared for the competitions there,
Speaker 2: but like it was way less pressure getting there initially
Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't need to worry about
Speaker 2: falling in love with anyone and going on dates with anyone,
Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm just here being me. Little did I
Speaker 2: know that competition shows are the most stressed. I mean whoa.
Speaker 2: I mean Johnny Bananas on House Civilians was on House
Speaker 2: Civilians with me and he does the challenge and even
Speaker 2: him and I were like, this is a whole nother
Speaker 2: fucking level of show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're bringing massive personality. He's out. And speaking
Speaker 1: of Johnny Bananas, I think last time we were on
Speaker 1: a show, you were promoting House of Villains, and right
Speaker 1: before that you were on and you were in a
Speaker 1: relationship at that point in time, like with Bob the
Speaker 1: builder or something.
Speaker 2: I haven't dated Vince that friend, first of all. Lol,
Speaker 2: I forgot his name literally laughing.
Speaker 1: I think that was the last time, Like those are
Speaker 1: those are two moments? Are you still dating? Because that
Speaker 1: was a big deal for you to go public in
Speaker 1: that relationship. And then I remember you and Johnny kind
Speaker 1: of had like a flirtation thing that we were curious about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll tell you everything right now. Oh, Vince
Speaker 2: and I dated during the pandemic, and that just went
Speaker 2: horribly horribly wrong. He like whatever, he him and I
Speaker 2: just like weren't getting along. He on me and I
Speaker 2: found out later on I moved out away from Scottsdale.
Speaker 2: I couldn't look at his space for one working second.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the pandemic, I don't
Speaker 2: know whatever, but that was before How Civilians. Then I
Speaker 2: dated Jerry. That was a whole another horrible horrible vibe.
Speaker 2: Nice guy, not for me anyways. That went on to whatever,
Speaker 2: and then I did how Civilains How Civilains. I was single.
Speaker 2: I meet Johnny Bananas. We are flirting the whole time.
Speaker 2: This that he doesn't want to kiss on camera a
Speaker 2: little did I know it was because of Mariah or
Speaker 2: whatever her name is, and she was apparently freaking out
Speaker 2: that I was there because he knew that she knew
Speaker 2: that him and I would hit it off. It was
Speaker 2: a hole to do. So anyways, him and I just
Speaker 2: had this like cat and mouse game going the whole time,
Speaker 2: and everybody loves the showmans and of course the producers
Speaker 2: were like hopping on our digs about it. And then
Speaker 2: we just kind of like started to like casually see
Speaker 2: each other after the show and like kind of just
Speaker 2: had like a little flag after the show and then
Speaker 2: we were just friends.
Speaker 1: I was just with him. He's a wild time. He's
Speaker 1: a lot more energy than I have. He can go
Speaker 1: for many hours of the evening. So where does that
Speaker 1: spit you out? Today? Are you dating?
Speaker 2: So with my past of coming out to the public
Speaker 2: after boys nagging me and nagging me and nagging me
Speaker 2: for cloud to come out to the public and show
Speaker 2: everybody that I'm dating them, in comes my current boyfriend.
Speaker 2: We've been dating for two years and I have kept
Speaker 2: him completely separate from my work life and he's been
Speaker 2: so respectful of that, and we're kind of starting to
Speaker 2: post on Instagram together now. I think it's time we're
Speaker 2: going to be moving in together soon, and I think
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable enough that I can mention him now.
Speaker 2: His name is David, and it's been really really great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in my notes here said you'd been in Italy
Speaker 1: with a guy, and so I assume as you start talking,
Speaker 1: this was the guy that you were there with. If not,
Speaker 1: we have a bigger conversation to happen.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, David. We went with a bunch of his
Speaker 2: cousins and it was really really nice. And we've been
Speaker 2: dating for almost two years and he's honestly, really really great.
Speaker 1: How did you meet?
Speaker 2: So we met? We actually met in true carin fashion
Speaker 2: in the Bahamas. I was with my sister and our
Speaker 2: best friend, and my sister and her boyfriend at the
Speaker 2: time actually got into an argument and the boyfriend left
Speaker 2: our villa and my sister comes and wakes me up.
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping, I'm in my sweatpants and my oversized team,
Speaker 2: my hair is everywhere, I have no makeup on. She's like,
Speaker 2: get up, We're going to the bar like her ex
Speaker 2: was there because they were arguing. She's like that, we're going.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh my god. So we get on
Speaker 2: the golf cart. We get to the bar and I'm like,
Speaker 2: literally in my pajamas, flip flops, no makeup, hair everywhere,
Speaker 2: and this guy comes up to me. He's like, you
Speaker 2: want a shot? And I was like yeah, And that's
Speaker 2: how we met. We met in Bimini in the Bahamas,
Speaker 2: and we lived ten minutes from each other in Florida.
Speaker 1: No way, how weird is that? That's incredible? I mean, Karinn,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind me saying it, you don't have
Speaker 1: the best track record of dating and.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ben. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What makes this guy different? I mean, well, does it
Speaker 1: feel different? Maybe elaborate on who he is that is
Speaker 1: different than I mean honestly, because I hear a story
Speaker 1: of a guy at a bar. I mean, I do
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you were with no makeup, in
Speaker 1: sweats and came up and said, hey, can I buy
Speaker 1: you a shot? That is a very nice move, But
Speaker 1: it also could very easily be the guy that silt
Speaker 1: the bar trying to rip shots with the girl who
Speaker 1: looks lonely in her sweatpants sitting there. So what makes
Speaker 1: him different?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I will say it's it's kind of a
Speaker 2: running joke in my family because my track record sucks.
Speaker 2: But all these men in the beginning are like, I'm
Speaker 2: obsessed with you, I love you. Go to my dad,
Speaker 2: tell him they're going to marry me. We move in together,
Speaker 2: it's a whole thing, and then it kind of just
Speaker 2: like falls apart. I don't know if that's amazing or
Speaker 2: like ridiculous, but yes, there have been some really shy
Speaker 2: situations with my dating. David, on the other hand, kind
Speaker 2: of hung around and like we didn't start dating right away.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how to explain it, but it's
Speaker 2: a very different situation from the past.
Speaker 1: That makes no sense.
Speaker 2: I know we like hung out that night, but like
Speaker 2: I was also hanging out with like I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was about that night, but like I pulled
Speaker 2: more guys that night than like I've ever pulled like ever.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna go out with my sweatpants and
Speaker 2: don't make up every night. Yeah, it's just like the
Speaker 2: Queen of Vimini that night. I don't know, I got
Speaker 2: like ten guys numbers.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably the vibe that you don't care
Speaker 1: is what makes guys care exactly.
Speaker 2: I was just like literally not giving a shit. So
Speaker 2: if anyone wants danding advice there you go, don't give.
Speaker 1: A shop anyway.
Speaker 2: I meet David. We're kind of we're like kind of
Speaker 2: hanging out with like everyone at the bar at this point,
Speaker 2: Like me and my sister are just like floating around.
Speaker 2: We're like going to some guy's boat who's having a
Speaker 2: boat party. Then we're going back to the bar, like
Speaker 2: we're like all over the place. David's kind of just
Speaker 2: like there and he's kind of like, you know, like
Speaker 2: trying to like be helpful to me in like anyway
Speaker 2: and just like being really nice. I go back to
Speaker 2: my villa after partying all night, and the next morning
Speaker 2: I see him at Starbucks and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 2: I was kind of like being me. I was like
Speaker 2: joking around, you know, he's kind of like shy. In
Speaker 2: the morning, I was like, look who it is. I
Speaker 2: was like, do you know where we can get golf carts?
Speaker 2: And he was like, yeah, come on, I'll take you.
Speaker 2: So we get on, me and my sister and our
Speaker 2: best I can get on the golf cart and he's
Speaker 2: like driving around. I just remember looking at him and
Speaker 2: he was literally just smiling so big, like I could
Speaker 2: tell he just was like so excited to see me
Speaker 2: and hang out with me, and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, like poor guy, Like I am not going
Speaker 2: to date him, so sad and I go home and
Speaker 2: he goes home, and I didn't realize, but he was
Speaker 2: what he didn't have an iPhone at the time either,
Speaker 2: which was like its own thing, and he was what's
Speaker 2: happen at me? Which I never saw because I don't
Speaker 2: have WhatsApp notifications and I kind of like forgot about it.
Speaker 2: And then on my birthday he sent me a present
Speaker 2: and I was like, my birthday's in November, so it
Speaker 2: was a couple months later at this point, and he
Speaker 2: sends me a birthday present. He remembered my birthday. I
Speaker 2: haven't spoken to him since I saw him in the
Speaker 2: summer in Bimini, and I'm like, David Mancini, David Mancini.
Speaker 2: So I like go on Instagram like who the heck
Speaker 2: is David Mancini and I'm like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: David from Bimini. So then I texted him and I
Speaker 2: was like wow, like thank you so much for the president.
Speaker 2: That's insane, Like can't believe you're remembered, and he I
Speaker 2: was like, like, what's up with the thing, And he's like,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you on our third date. And I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, all right? I get back from I
Speaker 2: was in Orlando, and I got back from Orlando for
Speaker 2: my birthday and we went on a date the next
Speaker 2: night and we never separate. It.
Speaker 1: See, this is this is good, Like this feels healthy.
Speaker 1: This is not an unhealthy meetup guy trying to get clout. No,
Speaker 1: you showing off at a bar and him just like
Speaker 1: he met you in the right place. He showed you
Speaker 1: and he didn't know who I was of Big two.
Speaker 1: That's Big two. Shock her to his system once he did. Well,
Speaker 1: this is awesome and we're excited for you in this.
Speaker 1: And it is always a really exciting time to announce
Speaker 1: a relationship publicly, especially when you've been historically kind of quiet.
Speaker 1: But when you do it, it does get a lot
Speaker 1: of fun and it does kind of allow for the
Speaker 1: freedom of people to start investigating who David is. So
Speaker 1: hopefully he has a good track record and we'll find
Speaker 1: out everyone.
Speaker 2: If we break up, I'm sorry because in the past,
Speaker 2: as soon as I announce a relationship, it goes to
Speaker 2: so here we go.
Speaker 1: We'll feel we'll feel for you. If that happens, we'll
Speaker 1: bring you back to talk about it. Uh, Krinn, how
Speaker 1: much do you mind talking about Paradise? Because I know
Speaker 1: it's a very uh it was a very interesting experience.
Speaker 2: I will say this, nobody knows the whole story. There
Speaker 2: is a lot to it. I will talk about it
Speaker 2: one day. The truth will come to light. Everyone has
Speaker 2: their theories. There's been a lot of bad painting of me,
Speaker 2: a lot of bad painting of the other people involved.
Speaker 2: I think it was just a gang, bad deal that
Speaker 2: we all found ourselves in it. I don't believe anything
Speaker 2: happened on purpose. I think everything kind of happened on accident.
Speaker 2: But it can sucked and there's a lot more to it,
Speaker 2: and no nobody knows what actually happened. And I'll talk
Speaker 2: about it one day, But that's what I will say.
Speaker 1: Do you have like a day in mind?
Speaker 2: I don't have a day in mind. And I don't
Speaker 2: know how or when it will be brought up or
Speaker 2: what that looks.
Speaker 1: Like, but.
Speaker 2: I I just will say that no one actually really
Speaker 2: knows what happened, or no matter what you think, you know,
Speaker 2: you don't know the story. So yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: All I say, Okay, did you feel supported during this time? Though,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, is that a question I can ask?
Speaker 1: Is like coming off of that experience you obviously, if
Speaker 1: I remember, I didn't choose to continue to film, so
Speaker 1: there's like the break and then you left, correct mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I will say this. I love my Bachelor family. I
Speaker 2: do wish I went back at that time and kind
Speaker 2: of handle that. Listen, this was like a bomb went
Speaker 2: off in my life, and like I didn't know exactly
Speaker 2: how to handle it. I also didn't know how much
Speaker 2: it would affect me after the fact, and like I
Speaker 2: just I handled it the best that I could, and
Speaker 2: I felt my family supported me. I had people from
Speaker 2: the show that supported me. The girls, however, were worried
Speaker 2: about themselves. They were crying that we had to stop
Speaker 2: filming and going to Disneyland with to Mario and I'm
Speaker 2: sitting home not being able to leave because every news
Speaker 2: outlet on the planet is parked outside my condo and
Speaker 2: I can't do anything. Anything I do was it was
Speaker 2: just a horrible time. So yeah, I had a lot
Speaker 2: of support from the people that mattered, but like I
Speaker 2: was completely unsupported by other people.
Speaker 1: Also, is that was I mean, was that your exit
Speaker 1: from the Bachelor world, because have you done anything with
Speaker 1: them since?
Speaker 2: No, Unfortunately I haven't done anything with them since. But
Speaker 2: I will say that that was not my choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean was kind of my question was
Speaker 1: is that your choice or was that their choice?
Speaker 2: I don't really want to comment either way on that,
Speaker 2: but I love my Bachelor family and I have no
Speaker 2: hard feelings.
Speaker 1: Well that kind of leads me to the end here
Speaker 1: where we transition into life. Now. Obviously we know that
Speaker 1: you have just been in Italy with the wonderful with
Speaker 1: the wonderful David, being in a relationship and being married myself.
Speaker 1: It is so much greater than any television show you
Speaker 1: could ever do. But it does change kind of your
Speaker 1: ability to go on television. So a couple questions rapid fire.
Speaker 1: Is there any reality television for you in the future
Speaker 1: that we can get excited about.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've definitely said no to a bunch of dating shows,
Speaker 2: So that's why obviously you guys haven't seen me on
Speaker 2: dating shows. Me and my sister were supposed to do
Speaker 2: a really fun dating show together, but unfortunately, at the
Speaker 2: time when we were just getting with our boyfriends and
Speaker 2: kind of deciding what route to take, but so we
Speaker 2: decided not to do that. But you're going to see
Speaker 2: me on reality TV other than dating shows? Yes, fun
Speaker 2: stun coming?
Speaker 1: Is that a teaser for life now? Life kind of
Speaker 1: in the near future? Things you want to share with
Speaker 1: listeners that they maybe could tune into that you'll be
Speaker 1: a part of.
Speaker 2: I can't really share anything yet, but yeah, you will
Speaker 2: definitely see me again. My world is reality television. It's
Speaker 2: what I love to do. I love I love it.
Speaker 1: Your sister is a big personality as well. Correct.
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Is there a world in which we would see her
Speaker 1: with you on something?
Speaker 2: Yes, there's been a couple shows. We are very excited
Speaker 2: to do reality television together. That's obviously the main goal.
Speaker 2: Her and I are like two peas in a pod.
Speaker 2: We're a team. So you will definitely see us, hopefully
Speaker 2: sooner than later, on reality TV together.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the two of you
Speaker 1: showing up somewhere it could be really intimidating for so
Speaker 1: many others because you are so close. Yeah, like it
Speaker 1: can you know what?
Speaker 2: Everyone hates to see us coming, whether it's in real
Speaker 2: life or on TV. I will tell you that, girls
Speaker 2: do not like it when we enter the chat.
Speaker 1: No, people need to get out of the way. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's the teasers we got for the future. Those
Speaker 1: are the things you can talk about right now. That's
Speaker 1: your experience on The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. If
Speaker 1: one day you do feel like you need the platform
Speaker 1: to share all of your stories in extensive detail to
Speaker 1: get it off off out into the world, please let
Speaker 1: us know. We would love to be a part of it. Kurin,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. It's always a pleasure to catch
Speaker 1: up with you and we wish you the best well.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. I always love
Speaker 2: to chat with you guys. So yeah, talk soon, Bye, Sia.
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