1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Ben Higgins and Ashley I bring you Infamous. Sometimes roses 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: are red flags. Everybody, it's been today, I'm taking over 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and I'm here for another episode of Infamous. Sometimes roses 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: are red flags. Today, I might just have one of 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: the most memorable people to come out of the Bachelor 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: universe in the last decade. She was infamous for napping, 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: she was infamous for her brief time on Paradise, a 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: true legend from Nick Viles season of The Bachelor, and 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: somebody who's done a lot since then. Of course, I'm 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: talking about Krinn Olympios. Krinn, Welcome to the show. Hi, 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm back, Kriinn. I have a lot to talk to 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: you about. A lot I want to catch up with 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: you on but I want to start by asking you 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: a very direct question. Would you say you are the 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: best villain to ever come out of the Bachelor franchise? 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: I absolutely would say that. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: My next question then is, Okay, I'll ask you this question. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: Then I'll tell you why I'm asking it. What does 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: a villain mean to you? Like, how do you describe 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: a villain? 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: Well, a villain? Honestly, I think it's kind of like 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: a running joke with me because like I say, I'm 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: like the greatest villain to ever come off the show. 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: But I don't really consider myself an actual villain. I'm 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: more of a villain as in, like I'm going to 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: do and say what I like feel and if you 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: come at me, like I'll come back at you. But 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm never going to start any drama with anyone. I'm 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: never gonna be like going at anyone for no reason 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: or starting drama on my own. It's more of just 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna do and be me, but like if 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: you come for me, you'll be sorry. 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: See That's where I was coming at because I mean, 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: I guess we can throw you in that villain category 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: because there was like some polarization I guess from next 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: season with you. People talked about you a lot, people 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: were super into it. But you were the first villain 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: that I think made Bachelor Nation question like what are 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: we determining as a villain or not because you weren't 40 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: like mean, and I think that was historically what we met. 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: And then I look at my season, which was the 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: year before with Olivia COAREDI who also was not a 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: villain but got kind of defined as a villain, but 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: wasn't mean just polarizing. 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: I think, like because I still feel like I can't 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: believe that it was this long ago, but like eight 47 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: years ago, like reality TV was kind of just like 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: popping off, and social media was just becoming a thing 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: for us on reality TV, and like it was kind 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: of all like snowballing at that time. So I feel 51 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: like at that time, no one really knew how to 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: categorize villains properly. So it's like, oh, she's different. She's 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: like saying like out of pocket and like she's a villain, 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: But like I wasn't really the villain. Taylor Nolan was 55 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: the villain going at me and going at me and 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: going at me, talking behind my back. I'm sitting right 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: there and she's like whispering behind my back, and I'm 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: just like I'm not dealing with that. But once she 59 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: came from me and said something to me, I'm like, 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: all right, you're done, honey, You're done. 61 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: So was the response in the house, I mean, I 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: mean it's been a bit. Was the response in the 63 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: house supportive of you? Or did it feel like you 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: were on your own little island? 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: It's crazy because like Vanessa and Jasmine, Sorry, it's been 66 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: a long time. Oh my god. 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 68 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: But like the girls like and I got along really well. 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: Like the only girl that like literally didn't hang out 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: with me, like on or off camera was Taylor, Like, 71 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: and what's that girl's name, Sarah van Dahl? I think 72 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: she has like the really big freaky smile. Yeah, they 73 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: were the only ones that really didn't like hang out 74 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: with me off camera. But like when the cameras were up, 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: like Vanessa and like all of them were kind of 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: just like talking so much about me. And I was 77 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: kind of shocked when the season aired because I was like, wow, 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: you guys were like acting like you were like my 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: best friends and all that. And it's crazy because I 80 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: was never like like that or fake like that. I 81 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: was always like real. So I'm like, y'all are the 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: real villains here. 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: The we do infamous right now because right now we're 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: trying to peel behind the curtain, get behind the scenes. 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Hear from the people who did kind of have that 86 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: moment watching it back me like I don't I didn't 87 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: know that or I don't remember it that way. When 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: you watched your season back, did you feel like, uh, 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: there were things I mean outside of people talking behind 90 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: your back that you didn't know of. Was there shocking 91 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: moments that you remember going that isn't how it happened? 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: Or do you feel like you were accurately portrayed throughout? 93 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, no, no, yes, there were How do 94 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: I put this? Let me think? Okay, yes, okay. People 95 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: ask me all the time. Is the show scripted and 96 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: is it like exactly what we see? No, it's not scripted, 97 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: but it's real. It's all us. But like, no, it's 98 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: not exactly what you see. Like, there were things that 99 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: I saw that I was like, whoa, They really put 100 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: that like out of context and this is going to 101 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: be taken so not how it actually was. Some things, 102 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: for instance, were when I went to Nick Faiau's hotel 103 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: room that night, they really portrayed it as like I 104 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: was going there to have sex with him that night, 105 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: and that's so was not the vibe. I was in 106 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: my sweatpants. I gave a whole speech on how I 107 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: felt misunderstood and wanted to have a conversation. They portrayed 108 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: it as like Karenna is going to have sex and 109 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: I remember being so confused when Nick was like we 110 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: shouldn't do this, and I was like, I am not 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: here for that. What is happening? And there were just 112 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: like a bunch of other times like that as well. 113 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: Not to out the show or anything, but. 114 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: Not to out the show. But I think it's only 115 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: fair at some point for those who maybe I can't 116 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: even say you didn't have a good experience on the show, 117 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: because the show has been great for you, and we're 118 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: going to talk about all those things here. But the 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: big scene that people loved and remembered and I found, 120 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: coming a year off of my season absolutely wild that 121 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: you made this choice was the nap during the Rose ceremony. 122 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: I think you and I are very different in the 123 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: sense that I went on the show and was so 124 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: nervous the whole time that I couldn't really have fun 125 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: and relax and be myself. It felt like you really 126 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: went on and continue to go on television and can 127 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: really be yourself and relax. And I'm intrigued by where 128 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: that comes from if that is true. But then also, 129 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: can you elaborate on the napping scene because there were 130 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: many producers, many camera people, many contestants right there probably 131 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: confused by it as well, and it was a bold choice. 132 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it was where do I start? Because this 133 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: is a little bit of a layered moment again, scenes 134 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: where things just didn't go as planned or wasn't shown 135 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: as planned. That night was trench coat night, as I 136 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: call it, and I don't know if you remember, but 137 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: I came downstairs in her trench coat and lingerie. It 138 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: was Nick's birthday. I was trying to be cute again, 139 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: just went I. That was probably my fault. I should 140 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: have been like, this probably will look so stupid, but 141 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: you know what, DEMI copied me, so I must have 142 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: made an imprint on something and people loved it. I 143 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: don't know whatever I felt like that night. I was like, 144 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: this did not go as planned. I look so dumb. 145 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: And I was kind of like upset with the producers 146 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: about something that night. And I was also upset because 147 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: the girls were like Korean's taking all the time, blah 148 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, starting to get pissed at me, 149 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: and then when I would just like sit in the 150 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: corner or take a nap, they would be pissed. Also, 151 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, which is it. Do you want me 152 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: around or do you not? I just had a sty night, 153 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: like I have my rose from the group date. I'm 154 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: not dealing with this again, authentic myself. That's what I 155 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: would do if I was in a situation like that 156 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: in real life, I would leave and go home and 157 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: go to sleep. So I just was like, I'm removing myself. 158 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm upset. I was crying. I was like, I'm not 159 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: doing it, Like these girls are all like talking about 160 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: me and I just had a sheep night. I'm not 161 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: doing it. So I went to sleep. 162 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So you went to sleep peacefully. I don't remember 163 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: how did it play out. Did people come up and 164 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: try to wake you up? 165 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: I think Nick came into the room. It was like, 166 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: what are you doing? Hee you? I'm sleeping. 167 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: It is It is interesting because some of those relatable moments, 168 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: and I would consider that a relatable moment because I 169 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: think people watching would go, hey, it was his birthday. 170 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: She was trying to be uh sweet or kind or. 171 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: I was trying to be hot, trying to be hot, 172 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: and I was trying to be different, and it just 173 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: it did not It did not go The producers told 174 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: me they were doing something else. They lied to me 175 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: about something, and it got up and I wound up 176 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: like pulling Nick outside, and it just like wasn't didn't 177 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: match the vibe of me, like being in the trench coat. 178 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a joke. I was like, 179 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: like in a trench coat at lingerie, but like along 180 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: the line, something got messed up. I was pissed at 181 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: the producers and like I just looked stupid because they 182 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: didn't do what they said they had done, so like 183 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: it didn't make sense that I was in a tract coat. 184 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: So I was just like annoyed and I was like, well, 185 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: now I look stupid. And that's when I like essentially 186 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: stopped listening to the producers and I was like, no, 187 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: you guys are not on my side. 188 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: And you've been on a couple of the shows since 189 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: your time on The Bachelor. You've definitely made a name 190 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: for yourself. You know, when everybody comes off the show, 191 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they talk to whoever their agent is 192 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: a representation. I'm sure every Bachelor contestant says, yeah, I 193 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: just want to do things outside of the franchise. That 194 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: is a very common thing. It doesn't always happen, but 195 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: for you, you really have done a lot, and so 196 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: has Nick and We're going to talk about Nick and 197 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: his resurgence here in just a bit. But for you, 198 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: you have really made a name for yourself outside the show. 199 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: Do you feel like your experience on The Bachelor prepared 200 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: you for these other shows? Are they at all similar? 201 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Not The Bachelor? Like when I got to uh, okay, 202 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: so I've done I've done shows. Sorry, I'm trying to 203 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: like answer these properly because there's so much like, No, 204 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: a Bachelor did not prepare me. 205 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: You're trying to be proper here, but when it comes 206 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: to beyond national television, you say, screw it, let's just 207 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: rock and roll. 208 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: Okay, So the Bachelor, no, not prepare me for other shows. 209 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: I've the next like major show kind of like like 210 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: The Bachelor that I did, I guess you could say 211 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: was house of villains, like big production, big deal, other 212 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: reality stars. At that point, I was like, literally, what 213 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: the like, I was not prepared for this at all. 214 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: I was not ready because again, I'm not a real villain. 215 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: All of them went in with a strategy. I'm like, 216 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: let's all be friends. New York is like FK, youw 217 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: We're not friends. I'm like, WHOA, this is like not it. 218 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: I like, by the way, me and New York are 219 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: very good friends, but I'm just like trying to get 220 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: everyone to get along. I'm like not good at competitions. 221 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: Like I almost like was like so unprepared for The Bachelor. 222 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: Totally different deal. They did not prepare me over there 223 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: for like what real reality TV is like and competition 224 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: shows are like absolutely not because again I didn't treat 225 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: The Bachelor like a competition. I feel like nowadays this 226 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: show is really treated like a competition. Like people come 227 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: up to me and they're like, did you win? And 228 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, it's not something you win, Okay, you 229 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: fall in love. I'm sorry that people are ruining this 230 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: show and the show sucks now in my opinion, but 231 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: it's not something you can win. 232 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: You don't win it. But speaking of love, you did 233 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: go on next season? 234 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: I did? 235 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: Did you go into the season believing that Nick was 236 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: somebody you potentially could be interested in? 237 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely? At the time, like I literally was like I'm 238 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: marrying him? 239 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: And when did that change or did it ever change? 240 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean like being on the show and like 241 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: filming it, you're not thinking. I mean, at least for me, 242 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: you're not thinking like, oh, I just like need to 243 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 2: be here. I mean like after I guess you could say, 244 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: like after he didn't pick me, I was like, oh, 245 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: I'm not marrying him? 246 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: Mmm? You know, so did your feelings fade? Like if 247 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: you would have picked you, would you have like could 248 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: you believe you could have continued on? 249 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I would like to think that, Like, I mean, 250 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: that's like the hope of being on the show is 251 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: that you meet the person that you want to marry 252 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: and you stay with them and it works out. I mean, 253 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: our show's track record isn't that great, but you know, 254 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: you hope for the best. I mean, like, didn't you 255 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: think that you were going to stay with who was it? Lauren? 256 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: M No, you do. 257 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm not disagreeing with you. 258 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: You really do believe it. You think you're going to 259 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: be with them. 260 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: I had girls that were on the season that also 261 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: left because they had said, no, this is not for me. 262 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: So my question was more around did you believe it 263 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: until the very end when he said goodbye? Or were 264 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: you one foot in one foot out? 265 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: No? No, I was. I was fully in the whole time. 266 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: And that's the God's honest truth. 267 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: And then when you go on like House of Villains, 268 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: it's very different because you're not going there for the romance. Correct. 269 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, honestly, like it's so crazy because 270 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: I remember like getting there and being like, okay, like 271 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: the pressure's not on, like I'm not dating anyone here, 272 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: and like I don't like I just need to focus 273 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: on Like honestly, I wasn't even prepared for the competitions there, 274 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: but like it was way less pressure getting there initially 275 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't need to worry about 276 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: falling in love with anyone and going on dates with anyone, 277 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm just here being me. Little did I 278 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: know that competition shows are the most stressed. I mean whoa. 279 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean Johnny Bananas on House Civilians was on House 280 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: Civilians with me and he does the challenge and even 281 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: him and I were like, this is a whole nother 282 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: fucking level of show. 283 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're bringing massive personality. He's out. And speaking 284 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: of Johnny Bananas, I think last time we were on 285 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: a show, you were promoting House of Villains, and right 286 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: before that you were on and you were in a 287 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: relationship at that point in time, like with Bob the 288 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: builder or something. 289 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: I haven't dated Vince that friend, first of all. Lol, 290 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: I forgot his name literally laughing. 291 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: I think that was the last time, Like those are 292 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: those are two moments? Are you still dating? Because that 293 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: was a big deal for you to go public in 294 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: that relationship. And then I remember you and Johnny kind 295 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: of had like a flirtation thing that we were curious about. 296 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll tell you everything right now. Oh, Vince 297 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: and I dated during the pandemic, and that just went 298 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: horribly horribly wrong. He like whatever, he him and I 299 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: just like weren't getting along. He on me and I 300 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: found out later on I moved out away from Scottsdale. 301 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: I couldn't look at his space for one working second. 302 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the pandemic, I don't 303 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: know whatever, but that was before How Civilians. Then I 304 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: dated Jerry. That was a whole another horrible horrible vibe. 305 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: Nice guy, not for me anyways. That went on to whatever, 306 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: and then I did how Civilains How Civilains. I was single. 307 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: I meet Johnny Bananas. We are flirting the whole time. 308 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: This that he doesn't want to kiss on camera a 309 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: little did I know it was because of Mariah or 310 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: whatever her name is, and she was apparently freaking out 311 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: that I was there because he knew that she knew 312 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: that him and I would hit it off. It was 313 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: a hole to do. So anyways, him and I just 314 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: had this like cat and mouse game going the whole time, 315 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: and everybody loves the showmans and of course the producers 316 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: were like hopping on our digs about it. And then 317 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: we just kind of like started to like casually see 318 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: each other after the show and like kind of just 319 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: had like a little flag after the show and then 320 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: we were just friends. 321 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: I was just with him. He's a wild time. He's 322 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: a lot more energy than I have. He can go 323 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: for many hours of the evening. So where does that 324 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: spit you out? Today? Are you dating? 325 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: So with my past of coming out to the public 326 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: after boys nagging me and nagging me and nagging me 327 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: for cloud to come out to the public and show 328 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: everybody that I'm dating them, in comes my current boyfriend. 329 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: We've been dating for two years and I have kept 330 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: him completely separate from my work life and he's been 331 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: so respectful of that, and we're kind of starting to 332 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: post on Instagram together now. I think it's time we're 333 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: going to be moving in together soon, and I think 334 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: I feel comfortable enough that I can mention him now. 335 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: His name is David, and it's been really really great. 336 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, in my notes here said you'd been in Italy 337 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: with a guy, and so I assume as you start talking, 338 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: this was the guy that you were there with. If not, 339 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: we have a bigger conversation to happen. 340 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: Yes, no, David. We went with a bunch of his 341 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: cousins and it was really really nice. And we've been 342 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: dating for almost two years and he's honestly, really really great. 343 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: How did you meet? 344 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: So we met? We actually met in true carin fashion 345 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: in the Bahamas. I was with my sister and our 346 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: best friend, and my sister and her boyfriend at the 347 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: time actually got into an argument and the boyfriend left 348 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: our villa and my sister comes and wakes me up. 349 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm sleeping, I'm in my sweatpants and my oversized team, 350 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: my hair is everywhere, I have no makeup on. She's like, 351 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: get up, We're going to the bar like her ex 352 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: was there because they were arguing. She's like that, we're going. 353 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh my god. So we get on 354 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: the golf cart. We get to the bar and I'm like, 355 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: literally in my pajamas, flip flops, no makeup, hair everywhere, 356 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: and this guy comes up to me. He's like, you 357 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: want a shot? And I was like yeah, And that's 358 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: how we met. We met in Bimini in the Bahamas, 359 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: and we lived ten minutes from each other in Florida. 360 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: No way, how weird is that? That's incredible? I mean, Karinn, 361 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: if you don't mind me saying it, you don't have 362 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: the best track record of dating and. 363 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ben. Yeah. 364 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: What makes this guy different? I mean, well, does it 365 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: feel different? Maybe elaborate on who he is that is 366 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: different than I mean honestly, because I hear a story 367 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: of a guy at a bar. I mean, I do 368 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you were with no makeup, in 369 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: sweats and came up and said, hey, can I buy 370 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: you a shot? That is a very nice move, But 371 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: it also could very easily be the guy that silt 372 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: the bar trying to rip shots with the girl who 373 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: looks lonely in her sweatpants sitting there. So what makes 374 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: him different? 375 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: Okay, So I will say it's it's kind of a 376 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: running joke in my family because my track record sucks. 377 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: But all these men in the beginning are like, I'm 378 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: obsessed with you, I love you. Go to my dad, 379 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: tell him they're going to marry me. We move in together, 380 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: it's a whole thing, and then it kind of just 381 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 2: like falls apart. I don't know if that's amazing or 382 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: like ridiculous, but yes, there have been some really shy 383 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: situations with my dating. David, on the other hand, kind 384 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: of hung around and like we didn't start dating right away. 385 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: And I don't know how to explain it, but it's 386 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: a very different situation from the past. 387 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: That makes no sense. 388 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: I know we like hung out that night, but like 389 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: I was also hanging out with like I don't know 390 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: what it was about that night, but like I pulled 391 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: more guys that night than like I've ever pulled like ever. 392 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna go out with my sweatpants and 393 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: don't make up every night. Yeah, it's just like the 394 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: Queen of Vimini that night. I don't know, I got 395 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: like ten guys numbers. 396 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: I think it's probably the vibe that you don't care 397 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: is what makes guys care exactly. 398 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: I was just like literally not giving a shit. So 399 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: if anyone wants danding advice there you go, don't give. 400 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: A shop anyway. 401 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: I meet David. We're kind of we're like kind of 402 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: hanging out with like everyone at the bar at this point, 403 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: Like me and my sister are just like floating around. 404 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: We're like going to some guy's boat who's having a 405 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: boat party. Then we're going back to the bar, like 406 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: we're like all over the place. David's kind of just 407 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: like there and he's kind of like, you know, like 408 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: trying to like be helpful to me in like anyway 409 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: and just like being really nice. I go back to 410 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: my villa after partying all night, and the next morning 411 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: I see him at Starbucks and I was like, whoa. 412 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: I was kind of like being me. I was like 413 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: joking around, you know, he's kind of like shy. In 414 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: the morning, I was like, look who it is. I 415 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: was like, do you know where we can get golf carts? 416 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: And he was like, yeah, come on, I'll take you. 417 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: So we get on, me and my sister and our 418 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: best I can get on the golf cart and he's 419 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: like driving around. I just remember looking at him and 420 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: he was literally just smiling so big, like I could 421 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: tell he just was like so excited to see me 422 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 2: and hang out with me, and I was like, oh 423 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: my god, like poor guy, Like I am not going 424 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 2: to date him, so sad and I go home and 425 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: he goes home, and I didn't realize, but he was 426 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: what he didn't have an iPhone at the time either, 427 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: which was like its own thing, and he was what's 428 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: happen at me? Which I never saw because I don't 429 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: have WhatsApp notifications and I kind of like forgot about it. 430 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: And then on my birthday he sent me a present 431 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: and I was like, my birthday's in November, so it 432 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: was a couple months later at this point, and he 433 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: sends me a birthday present. He remembered my birthday. I 434 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: haven't spoken to him since I saw him in the 435 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: summer in Bimini, and I'm like, David Mancini, David Mancini. 436 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: So I like go on Instagram like who the heck 437 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: is David Mancini and I'm like, oh my god, it's 438 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: David from Bimini. So then I texted him and I 439 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: was like wow, like thank you so much for the president. 440 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: That's insane, Like can't believe you're remembered, and he I 441 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: was like, like, what's up with the thing, And he's like, 442 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you on our third date. And I was like, 443 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: you know what, all right? I get back from I 444 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: was in Orlando, and I got back from Orlando for 445 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: my birthday and we went on a date the next 446 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: night and we never separate. It. 447 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: See, this is this is good, Like this feels healthy. 448 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: This is not an unhealthy meetup guy trying to get clout. No, 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: you showing off at a bar and him just like 450 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: he met you in the right place. He showed you 451 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: and he didn't know who I was of Big two. 452 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: That's Big two. Shock her to his system once he did. Well, 453 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: this is awesome and we're excited for you in this. 454 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: And it is always a really exciting time to announce 455 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: a relationship publicly, especially when you've been historically kind of quiet. 456 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: But when you do it, it does get a lot 457 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: of fun and it does kind of allow for the 458 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: freedom of people to start investigating who David is. So 459 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: hopefully he has a good track record and we'll find 460 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: out everyone. 461 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: If we break up, I'm sorry because in the past, 462 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: as soon as I announce a relationship, it goes to 463 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: so here we go. 464 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: We'll feel we'll feel for you. If that happens, we'll 465 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: bring you back to talk about it. Uh, Krinn, how 466 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: much do you mind talking about Paradise? Because I know 467 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: it's a very uh it was a very interesting experience. 468 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: I will say this, nobody knows the whole story. There 469 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: is a lot to it. I will talk about it 470 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: one day. The truth will come to light. Everyone has 471 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: their theories. There's been a lot of bad painting of me, 472 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: a lot of bad painting of the other people involved. 473 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: I think it was just a gang, bad deal that 474 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 2: we all found ourselves in it. I don't believe anything 475 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: happened on purpose. I think everything kind of happened on accident. 476 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: But it can sucked and there's a lot more to it, 477 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: and no nobody knows what actually happened. And I'll talk 478 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: about it one day, But that's what I will say. 479 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: Do you have like a day in mind? 480 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: I don't have a day in mind. And I don't 481 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: know how or when it will be brought up or 482 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: what that looks. 483 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: Like, but. 484 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: I I just will say that no one actually really 485 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: knows what happened, or no matter what you think, you know, 486 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: you don't know the story. So yeah, that's. 487 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: All I say, Okay, did you feel supported during this time? Though, 488 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: Like I mean, is that a question I can ask? 489 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Is like coming off of that experience you obviously, if 490 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: I remember, I didn't choose to continue to film, so 491 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: there's like the break and then you left, correct mm hmm. 492 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: I will say this. I love my Bachelor family. I 493 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: do wish I went back at that time and kind 494 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 2: of handle that. Listen, this was like a bomb went 495 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: off in my life, and like I didn't know exactly 496 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: how to handle it. I also didn't know how much 497 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 2: it would affect me after the fact, and like I 498 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: just I handled it the best that I could, and 499 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: I felt my family supported me. I had people from 500 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: the show that supported me. The girls, however, were worried 501 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: about themselves. They were crying that we had to stop 502 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: filming and going to Disneyland with to Mario and I'm 503 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: sitting home not being able to leave because every news 504 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: outlet on the planet is parked outside my condo and 505 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: I can't do anything. Anything I do was it was 506 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: just a horrible time. So yeah, I had a lot 507 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: of support from the people that mattered, but like I 508 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: was completely unsupported by other people. 509 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Also, is that was I mean, was that your exit 510 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: from the Bachelor world, because have you done anything with 511 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: them since? 512 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: No, Unfortunately I haven't done anything with them since. But 513 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: I will say that that was not my choice. 514 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean was kind of my question was 515 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: is that your choice or was that their choice? 516 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: I don't really want to comment either way on that, 517 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: but I love my Bachelor family and I have no 518 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: hard feelings. 519 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: Well that kind of leads me to the end here 520 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: where we transition into life. Now. Obviously we know that 521 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: you have just been in Italy with the wonderful with 522 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: the wonderful David, being in a relationship and being married myself. 523 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: It is so much greater than any television show you 524 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: could ever do. But it does change kind of your 525 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: ability to go on television. So a couple questions rapid fire. 526 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: Is there any reality television for you in the future 527 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: that we can get excited about. 528 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've definitely said no to a bunch of dating shows, 529 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: So that's why obviously you guys haven't seen me on 530 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: dating shows. Me and my sister were supposed to do 531 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: a really fun dating show together, but unfortunately, at the 532 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: time when we were just getting with our boyfriends and 533 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: kind of deciding what route to take, but so we 534 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: decided not to do that. But you're going to see 535 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: me on reality TV other than dating shows? Yes, fun 536 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: stun coming? 537 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: Is that a teaser for life now? Life kind of 538 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: in the near future? Things you want to share with 539 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: listeners that they maybe could tune into that you'll be 540 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: a part of. 541 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: I can't really share anything yet, but yeah, you will 542 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: definitely see me again. My world is reality television. It's 543 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: what I love to do. I love I love it. 544 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Your sister is a big personality as well. Correct. 545 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: Correct? 546 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Is there a world in which we would see her 547 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: with you on something? 548 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: Yes, there's been a couple shows. We are very excited 549 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: to do reality television together. That's obviously the main goal. 550 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: Her and I are like two peas in a pod. 551 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 2: We're a team. So you will definitely see us, hopefully 552 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: sooner than later, on reality TV together. 553 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the two of you 554 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: showing up somewhere it could be really intimidating for so 555 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: many others because you are so close. Yeah, like it 556 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: can you know what? 557 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: Everyone hates to see us coming, whether it's in real 558 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: life or on TV. I will tell you that, girls 559 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: do not like it when we enter the chat. 560 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: No, people need to get out of the way. Okay, 561 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: So that's the teasers we got for the future. Those 562 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: are the things you can talk about right now. That's 563 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: your experience on The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. If 564 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: one day you do feel like you need the platform 565 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: to share all of your stories in extensive detail to 566 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: get it off off out into the world, please let 567 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: us know. We would love to be a part of it. Kurin, 568 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. It's always a pleasure to catch 569 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: up with you and we wish you the best well. 570 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. I always love 571 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: to chat with you guys. So yeah, talk soon, Bye, Sia. 572 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 573 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.