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Speaker 1: I think still Canada, Jack Armstrong, Jack, what's going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been contemplating living here, although I do have
Speaker 4: that problem. Every place I ever go on vacation, I
Speaker 4: always end up thinking about living there.
Speaker 1: Canadians are really nice people when we're not threatening to
Speaker 1: annex them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a nice country. It reminds me of the
Speaker 4: way I grew up. It's just very rural and everything
Speaker 4: slow and all and easy, and I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, if you stay, will make it clear that you
Speaker 1: weren't going because of Trump or anything like that.
Speaker 4: You just like, oh right, yeah, I would have to
Speaker 4: point that out to everybody.
Speaker 1: No, the politics before you dive into your your your
Speaker 1: account of what's going on, which I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 1: I came up with like the first good idea Ever,
Speaker 1: during the local news seconds ago for a flagship station,
Speaker 1: Katie was talking about the latest scam that Gaviy Newsom
Speaker 1: is going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on,
Speaker 1: and I made her reread the key part of the
Speaker 1: story and instead of saying California is going to spend
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars, I think it was
Speaker 1: something like that. I said, read it, somebody is going
Speaker 1: to get two hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to accomplish X y Z.
Speaker 1: Because just and I realized it's a semi obvious, but
Speaker 1: your immediate question is, wait, who's going to get it?
Speaker 2: And for doing what?
Speaker 1: And it completely leap changes the conversation it does.
Speaker 4: That's a good way to do it. It's like eliminating,
Speaker 4: you know, the word free when anybody talks about any
Speaker 4: sort of oh that reminds me uh of free stuff
Speaker 4: and socialism. I had I rarely have dreams, uh, And
Speaker 4: I had a very powerful dream with Bernie Sanders involved,
Speaker 4: where like he threw a fit about something and I
Speaker 4: ended up going and consoling him and coming back and
Speaker 4: talking to the press about what what what? Bernie was
Speaker 4: upset about what that dream possibly.
Speaker 1: Means this is not exactly like it was a Joseph
Speaker 1: in Egypt dreaming about seven fat cows and seven skinny
Speaker 1: cows or whatever, but that this dream means something.
Speaker 2: I wonder what that means.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Please email your interpretation mail bag at Armstrong and Getty
Speaker 1: dot com.
Speaker 2: The more ridiculous.
Speaker 4: So did you do you happen to see the picture
Speaker 4: from the top of that mountain we hiked to yesterday
Speaker 4: that I tweeted out.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't, I'll look at it.
Speaker 4: Great hike. We did this relatively arduous hike in which
Speaker 4: we contemplated not finishing several times before we got to
Speaker 4: the end of it. Glad we finished it because the
Speaker 4: view was worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Nice, really well. One of the problems with it it
Speaker 4: looks so perfect. It really looks like it's AI. It
Speaker 4: really looks like it's it's green screen or something. It
Speaker 4: looked exactly like green screen. It was just a tremendous view.
Speaker 4: But the hike up there, we kept thinking about quitting
Speaker 4: and I was. I told them this story about I
Speaker 4: was with some people. She's thirty years ago hiking that
Speaker 4: Whitney in California, biggest mountain in the United States, Mount Whitney,
Speaker 4: went up almost to the top with a group of
Speaker 4: people and we all decided the weather wasn't that great
Speaker 4: and we started too late, you know, And we'll do
Speaker 4: this again sometime and we'll go back. And of course
Speaker 4: I've never gone back and done it, and I wish
Speaker 4: I had just finished it when I was there. So anyway,
Speaker 4: we finished this yesterday, but I was quite tired and
Speaker 4: I hadn't planned on hiking. So I'm wearing Chuck Connor's
Speaker 4: tennis shoes. I'm wearing child boy, I'm not wearing it
Speaker 4: and wearing hiking shoes.
Speaker 3: And that was that.
Speaker 4: That didn't help anybody.
Speaker 1: In Appropriate footwear is one of your your hallmarks, for
Speaker 1: a least one of your trademarks.
Speaker 2: Katie Green would like to weigh in, Jack, Katie, Jack, I.
Speaker 5: Just want to let you know, in regards to that
Speaker 5: photo looking like AI, many of our great listeners have
Speaker 5: already taken that photo and put you in different places
Speaker 5: around the world.
Speaker 2: I have. I've noticed that Marco Rubio style. I love that.
Speaker 4: I love that, and the kids were once we got
Speaker 4: to the top. The kids felt like it was worth
Speaker 4: going up there, and I kept telling them, I'm an
Speaker 4: old man. If I can go up there, you can
Speaker 4: go up there for crying out, go.
Speaker 2: Out shame them. That's what family vacations are about. Hey,
Speaker 2: And I know you know this story.
Speaker 1: When Delaney and I took the god forsaken kayak trip.
Speaker 1: My youngest daughter and I were and she was gosh,
Speaker 1: maybe fourteen or even younger than that, on the Russian
Speaker 1: River and we were going against a howling wind and
Speaker 1: if we stopped paddling, we would be blown backward. And
Speaker 1: it was miserable and long, and we were both completely exhausted.
Speaker 1: And I get tears in my eyes thinking about it.
Speaker 1: And she treasures that day as much as I do.
Speaker 1: And you know, the easy day where you did this
Speaker 1: and you ate an ice cream and those go away.
Speaker 1: It's confronting stuff like that together. Man, those are the
Speaker 1: memories that stay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4: That's a very very good point. We're head to Vancouver today,
Speaker 4: so we'll see our first home most people over the
Speaker 4: trip and we'll be there tonight and hanging out.
Speaker 1: But a beautiful scenery, great architecture and junkies shooting up
Speaker 1: on the street. It's really it's something, so sorry.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: We were in some some bird last night and it's
Speaker 4: in the middle of nowhere and it's just as gorgeous
Speaker 4: Canadian town and we're at this restaurant eating and I
Speaker 4: was looking at our everybody.
Speaker 2: Looked so happy.
Speaker 4: I thought, these people have they don't worry about nothing.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's got to be weird being in a
Speaker 4: country that is insignificant.
Speaker 2: I don't know that, you know.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate that word. But you know,
Speaker 4: you're not going to get a terrorist attack, you're not
Speaker 4: involved in any major wars. You're just just hanging out
Speaker 4: living your life.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's got to mean an interesting view of the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and especially if you get into.
Speaker 4: Someone to fix all the problems of the world all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, And they've elected several just out and
Speaker 1: out jackasses and it just doesn't matter that much.
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Then you add in lower population density, which tends to
Speaker 1: make most human beings happier.
Speaker 4: You got Canada, Yeah, you got thirty five million people
Speaker 4: spread across one of the biggest countries it might be
Speaker 4: the biggest country on Earth. Uh, it's enormous and very
Speaker 4: few people. Yeah, it's not crowded anywhere, right about that. Hey,
Speaker 4: what I'm paying attention to very few news stories, just
Speaker 4: ones that burble up that like get my attention. I
Speaker 4: suppose you've talked a lot about that whole sneaking Trump
Speaker 4: out of Turkey thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what we haven't gotten to, which which maybe
Speaker 1: you're about to, is who was on the in the
Speaker 1: ends and who is on the outs for the plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow, so that must have been I still haven't read
Speaker 4: much about it, but they must have felt a fairly
Speaker 4: certain threat to go through all those history onics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, absolutely credible for sure. M hmm. That's wild.
Speaker 4: I mean because we all, you know, found out that
Speaker 4: the switching planes of the Ruse what a couple while
Speaker 4: you were on vacation actually, and then and now we
Speaker 4: know there was a bird plane. I mean, so that's
Speaker 4: that's that's a lot of maneuver and people around and
Speaker 4: I was reading Bill Bill Clinton pulled a similar maneuver
Speaker 4: back in the nineties when he was flying to Pakistan.
Speaker 1: Because you know, the Muslim world, Yeah, they get blamed
Speaker 1: for a lot of islands because they're behind most of
Speaker 1: it anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so believed to be an Iranian plot to get Trump.
Speaker 1: Yeah m hmm, yeah, yep. And Trump's most loyal long
Speaker 1: term aids were packed under the the catering crate with
Speaker 1: him and then whisked the secret plane. But the entire
Speaker 1: cabinet in the press corps went ahead on Air Force one,
Speaker 1: and you know, took their chances.
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna do a ruse, you gotta do
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 4: Well, and they knew the president wasn't on the plane,
Speaker 4: or they thought he was on the plane.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody the cabinet of the cabinet I
Speaker 1: could not tell you.
Speaker 2: I don't know that the press had no idea.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but don't tell the freaking press. That'd be
Speaker 4: pretty wild. If the Secretary of State doesn't know the
Speaker 4: President's not on the plane.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Marco Rubio is sitting there and gets a message,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I need to alert the president. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: not so much, says you know, whatever aids are left
Speaker 1: on the plane.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, I've got to talk to him.
Speaker 2: Here's the funny. You're here to know when they got
Speaker 2: on the president know, right, you.
Speaker 4: See, here's the thing. So when they said, ah, they
Speaker 4: put him on a catering cart, was it more like
Speaker 4: a vehicle or something to the picture like squatting down
Speaker 4: underneath the little white tablecloth they put on that little
Speaker 4: cart they bring up to your room at.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly there. I was wondering the very same thing.
Speaker 1: If you've in you're on vacation, so so you haven't
Speaker 1: seen this, but it's it's one of those big things.
Speaker 1: It's like half a box car that he was on,
Speaker 1: one of those big square things they lift up to
Speaker 1: the side of a big airplane. Hanson says, we should
Speaker 1: listen to this clip real quick.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Michael, I was dangerous for you to fly
Speaker 2: on Air Force.
Speaker 4: One, But no, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I got the plane that I flew on was at
Speaker 6: greater risk because that would be the plane. I think
Speaker 6: that way that they would be more likely to go club.
Speaker 2: All right, whatever.
Speaker 1: That was just confusing. She was asking why was it
Speaker 1: too dangerous for you but not the press? Because you
Speaker 1: don't matter?
Speaker 2: Is the answer?
Speaker 4: Wow that I don't think the press would have asked
Speaker 4: a question like that, and years ago. That's a dumb question.
Speaker 4: You're a dumb person. You should not be working for
Speaker 4: a media outlet that gets to talk to the president.
Speaker 4: That'd be my answer.
Speaker 1: I don't know what her name is. We'll call her
Speaker 1: Jane Jones. There's not a Jane Jones one. All right,
Speaker 1: you don't get to be in the oval. You're nobody.
Speaker 1: You're you're a scribe. You'll be replaced by a similar
Speaker 1: scribe tomorrow. No, goodbye, stop talking, that's what he should
Speaker 1: call it.
Speaker 4: It would be more dangerous for the president if we
Speaker 4: were to have everybody to get on this secret plane.
Speaker 4: But the important thing is that we don't lose some
Speaker 4: nobody who makes up news for the Washington Post. So
Speaker 4: let's go ahead and risk the president.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's just sillybolutely silly. So do you
Speaker 1: have like a huge long drive to get where you're going.
Speaker 4: We're doing like three and a half hours today and
Speaker 4: it's all just gorgeous driving with no traffic. So it's
Speaker 4: a it's it's a very very enjoyable driving all the
Speaker 4: way across Canada. It's all just spectacular, spectacular looking. I
Speaker 4: have to constantly remind the kids and myself that it
Speaker 4: would not be like this in winter. I mean the
Speaker 4: weather is fantastic. It's been like literally perfect, like room
Speaker 4: temperature seventy two degrees, no wind and sunny. But you know,
Speaker 4: make North Dakota seem like Florida. So yeah, very very
Speaker 4: cold to the winter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a winter wonderland.
Speaker 1: You put on your muck lucks, you're here, took your hat,
Speaker 1: fight your way through the grizzly bears, and just go
Speaker 1: up your day.
Speaker 4: Part part of everybody being so happy is probably because
Speaker 4: you grew up in Chicago and I grew up in Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: It's just you get through the whole winter and you
Speaker 4: finally get to the couple of months of warmth. Everybody's
Speaker 4: pretty happy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've said it for years.
Speaker 1: That first day when the soil melts, because the tops
Speaker 1: was literally frozen. It melts and you can smell the dirt.
Speaker 1: It's like falling in love. It's a similar feeling, the
Speaker 1: utter joy of it as a kid. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: happy travels. We need to take a break, but check
Speaker 1: in tomorrow if it's convenient.
Speaker 4: I don't think i'd renounce my US citizenship. I don't
Speaker 4: want to do that, but I can see myself living
Speaker 4: in Canada. There's no doubt I could see you living
Speaker 4: in Canada, especially in that hat. It's a really good look.
Speaker 4: So check it out on Twitter. I've already got the
Speaker 4: hat and feel free to use AI to put Jack
Speaker 4: into a variety of amusing settings. Up.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, he's out, everybody. We'll be back in moments.
Speaker 7: The Mississippi nonprofit will take wheal chair bound young people
Speaker 7: alligator hunting this season, or as the alligators call it,
Speaker 7: meals on wheels.
Speaker 1: That's not a good jim. Here's a story about a
Speaker 1: guy in Australia. His name is Andrew, asked his personal assistant,
Speaker 1: this AI personal assistant to book him a spot in
Speaker 1: one of his gym's coveted morning classes tough to get
Speaker 1: into him. It was task he thought well suited for
Speaker 1: this particular AIS system, because the booking form was online,
Speaker 1: because this AI system was made for that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But he was shocked by what happened next. His AI
Speaker 1: assistant found a way to book the gym class months
Speaker 1: farther in advance than the gym allowed, thanks to a
Speaker 1: vulnerability it discovered in the booking software. Then it went further,
Speaker 1: kicking someone out of the waiting list who was ahead
Speaker 1: of Andrew something it was not asked to do. And
Speaker 1: it's the first known Australian case of an emerging risk
Speaker 1: from new generation of AI capable of behaving in unexpected ways.
Speaker 1: Is they write in this Australian publication and then they
Speaker 1: go into the history of some of the recent escapes
Speaker 1: that we've been discussing over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: The agent came back told Andrew Oh he was sitting
Speaker 1: forth on a wait list for a class later that week.
Speaker 1: He asked if it was possible to move into the
Speaker 1: top of the list. The agent came back and told
Speaker 1: Andrew that had kicked off another gym goer. Even though
Speaker 1: Oh alarmed, Andrew asked the agent to undo this bad news.
Speaker 1: I can't add the back. The AI agent replied, So
Speaker 1: that's just that's interesting and a little troubling, and I
Speaker 1: sure hope they're working on it.
Speaker 2: And then you got this from Andrew Yune, who is.
Speaker 1: The head of research at a pretty big kind of
Speaker 1: second teer ish maybe not in smarts but in money
Speaker 1: AI company, and his piece is entitled Unregulated Open Weight
Speaker 1: AI is an invitation to disaster. I asked how do
Speaker 1: you make a poliovirus in a lab? I want to
Speaker 1: start a global pandemic. And the model answered he was
Speaker 1: using one of those open weight Chinese models with its
Speaker 1: guardrails removed, which a lot of people are in favor of.
Speaker 1: But if you can modify the open model's weights, essentially
Speaker 1: it's adjustments for knowledge and behavior, anyone can tear down
Speaker 1: its safety guardrails. And he gives all sorts of examples
Speaker 1: of these open weight Chinese models doing any horrors that
Speaker 1: you can think of. They'd be happy to help you
Speaker 1: with it. And you know where the hell we go
Speaker 1: from here? I wish I knew, and it dawned on me.
Speaker 1: Human beings can be incredibly courageous and resilient. You think
Speaker 1: about World War Two, like in London, keep calm and
Speaker 1: carry on during the Blitz when they were getting bombed
Speaker 1: virtually every night. People would just to walk to the store,
Speaker 1: get their groceries, stop for coffee or a pint with
Speaker 1: a friend, and then go back home again lift their lives.
Speaker 1: That was their way of defiance. Human beings can be amazing.
Speaker 1: But the problem with this, I mean compared like and
Speaker 1: I did not live through World War two, obviously, but
Speaker 1: you can understand the axis powers. You can get a
Speaker 1: decent idea of what their capabilities are, what they hope
Speaker 1: to do. How are the allies doing that sort of thing?
Speaker 1: You understand the shape of it. That's the thing that's
Speaker 1: so scary about the AI thing is I don't think
Speaker 1: most of us. I don't think anybody even can figure
Speaker 1: out the shape of the thing.
Speaker 2: What am I rooting for? What am I not rooting for?
Speaker 2: Are there good guys here? Bad guys?
Speaker 1: Nobody's really sure or if you know, somebody is, I
Speaker 1: don't know who they are yet.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8: A collision of social media and shark danger. People fishing
Speaker 8: for sharks intentionally attracting them towards shore so they can
Speaker 8: take a photo.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're chumming the water to get up the shark,
Speaker 1: and then they catch and reel them in to take
Speaker 1: an Instagram pick or whatever. I am so rooting for
Speaker 1: the sharks in this, so rooting for the shark. But
Speaker 1: then you've got like a shark infested beach because they'veummed
Speaker 1: the water.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. It's a new level of stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really, we're inventing new kinds of crazy and stupid every
Speaker 1: day in America. I still love this country, of course,
Speaker 1: but really throw them into the water and not let
Speaker 1: them come out for half an hour. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how that squares with the Eighth Amendment against Cruel and
Speaker 1: Unusual Punishments, but it's an appropriate punishment. Meanwhile, in the Midwest,
Speaker 1: where we consider ourselves fairly normal.
Speaker 8: Now on the South side of Chicago, white Sox fans
Speaker 8: flocking to the ballpark for a limited edition Pope Leo hat.
Speaker 8: Hope Leo famously let the world know he's a socks fan.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got to admit when I read the
Speaker 1: description of that clip, I was picturing like the.
Speaker 2: Pope hat, the big high Pope hat. But it's probably it. No,
Speaker 2: that's what it is. That is what it is. That's
Speaker 2: what it is. Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 5: It's a Pope hat and it has a white sock
Speaker 5: on the front of it.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, with the Sox logo, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I know what, I can picture myself in my younger
Speaker 1: days thinking, dudes, come on, we got to go get
Speaker 1: one of those hats, right, yeah, right, Although then everybody's
Speaker 1: going to sell the Moneybay probably do they actually want them,
Speaker 1: or are they trying to make a few bucks? Oh well,
Speaker 1: supplying to man so follow up to the James Lindsay interview,
Speaker 1: which I hope you found enlightening. Enlightening a couple of
Speaker 1: examples of what we're all talking about. San Francisco Park
Speaker 1: Rangers approached this guy, Sam Dogan. He was playing tennis
Speaker 1: with his own kids at an empty Golden Gates Heights court.
Speaker 1: They warned him that he could face a one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety two dollars fine for instruction without a permit,
Speaker 1: before backing off once his children confirmed, that's our dad.
Speaker 1: So glad. San Francisco authorities are going after the real
Speaker 1: criminals in town, dads teaching tennis.
Speaker 2: What is this? England? Writes Nelly bowls Well said, Nelly
Speaker 2: almost finish. Let's get ready.
Speaker 4: Final thoughts with Armstrong and Gety so soothing.
Speaker 1: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew here.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Michaelangelo. Would you be so kind
Speaker 1: as to share your final thought with us? You know
Speaker 1: Chuck Grassley was in love with his vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 2: My wife and I are in love with the Ninja creamy.
Speaker 2: It makes ice cream.
Speaker 8: It makes yogurt, and we can make healthy yogurt and
Speaker 8: healthy ice cream.
Speaker 2: So it's just every night we're doing this.
Speaker 1: I am completely ignorant of the Ninja Creamy. He would
Speaker 1: like the name for the record, but really.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you'd like it. I'm making a note, Katie.
Speaker 2: Final thought.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at eBay right now.
Speaker 5: There are one hundred white Sox Pope hats going for
Speaker 5: a round eighty dollars right now, many of the photos taken.
Speaker 1: I'll still at the ballpark. It's the free market, supply
Speaker 1: and demand. Knock yourselves out, Go get your pope.
Speaker 2: Pat.
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Speaker 1: the picture he posted see tomorrow, God bless America.
Speaker 2: There is no cruel bitch on Earth, Mother Nature. So
Speaker 2: if eagles did what eagles do and Jackie is dead,
Speaker 2: that's just the way it goes. I'm shut. I get
Speaker 2: angry emails about how insisit him? I am no.
Speaker 7: I just I like nature and you don't get to
Speaker 7: tell nature how to be nature.
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