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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Elizabeth Dutton, Zaren Burnette, I'm so glad to see you.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you.

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Speaker 2: I've got a little question for you. If you have

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Speaker 2: a second before you go anywhere, Yes, sit back down.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, okay, if you have a second, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my question is this, do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: I do. I knew you would know.

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Speaker 3: The essence of repugnant desire?

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Speaker 2: Oh, my stage name in Malaysia repugnant desire dancing. No,

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Speaker 2: what is repugnant desire?

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Speaker 3: Just like leaning over a candle at the dinner table,

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Speaker 3: but without the hard work. Stand out in the crowd,

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Speaker 3: get noticed as you walk through the airport.

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Speaker 2: I recognize this type of copy.

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Speaker 3: You're one of your favorite people. Elon Musk, Oh not Borg.

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk And I say that sarcastically.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even know if you. Borg is still

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Speaker 2: a good person. I just like saying the name before.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's a jerk now, I don't know anyway, moving on.

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Speaker 3: I know how he has his various companies that he's

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Speaker 3: running into the car.

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Speaker 2: Elon Berger, Elon City Wrench Company.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he has the boring company. That's the tunnel company.

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Speaker 3: And they made a flame thrower that one time.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have friends.

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Speaker 3: They have another product. Oh really, it's a perfume, a fragrance.

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Speaker 3: Get out of I'm not I'm not getting out of here.

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred dollars a bottle, which, like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know it's that's somewhat expensive. I don't think it's expensive

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Speaker 3: in the grand scheme of perfume.

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Speaker 2: Hundred that's like what you buy the drug store, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it's like some like nord Strums.

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Speaker 2: Kind of ok. Yeah, do they know they're selling this?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, no. He apparently made a crack

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Speaker 3: about this and on Twitter naturally okay, and then sold

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Speaker 3: what he claims ten thousand.

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Speaker 2: Bottles to one person.

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Speaker 3: People with blue checks.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you want to know what it's called?

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Speaker 2: Not really, but tell me anyway.

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Speaker 3: Burnt hair?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, take it back, don't don't tell me.

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Speaker 3: And apparently it smells like burnt hair.

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Speaker 2: Of course it does, because he has no irony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this comes to us. The email that this person

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Speaker 3: sent to our ridiculous crime was forwarded to me. Ditya wrote,

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Speaker 3: love the show, hate this mashup.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: My dad loves Dad Humor and Elon Musk, though his

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Speaker 3: povs are a bit questionable, as she says, so it

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Speaker 3: made sense for him to purchase his disgusting new fragrance

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Speaker 3: burnt hair. I don't know if you've heard of it.

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Speaker 3: It's from the Boring Company, but my dad bought it

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Speaker 3: on a whim and we all got the chance to

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Speaker 3: smell it. I can confirm it smells horrible. Honestly to me,

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Speaker 3: it resembles the smell of corn on the cob, right

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Speaker 3: when you're about to bite in, but cold corn on

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Speaker 3: the cob, because that's gross. I know you guys don't

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Speaker 3: really check your inbox, which is exactly why I'm using it,

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Speaker 3: because you should never be aware of the existence of

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Speaker 3: this abomination.

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Speaker 2: Does the Boring Company where they invent this to like

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Speaker 2: spray into Las Vegas tunnels to get homes?

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Speaker 3: Ding Dong walked into Twitter with the sink or whatever

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Speaker 3: was it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let the sink in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let this sink in. Let that sink because I

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Speaker 3: was like, wait, kitchen sink. I forgot.

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Speaker 2: It's whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's corny and it's stupid and it's for twelve year olds.

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Speaker 3: I don't burnt hair perfume.

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Speaker 2: Literally, that's it. That's the joke, I suppose. So oh wow,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you don't let him near any puppy.

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Speaker 3: Dog at the website because of.

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Speaker 2: Start trying to make a little boy.

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Speaker 3: It's he's just gonna build little boys, now, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I looked at the website. It's sold out, Sara, And

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm having such a hard time believing this is true.

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Speaker 3: It's totally true. Oh wow, Eli, And the bottle does

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Speaker 3: look like something you'd buy at the drug store.

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Speaker 2: I bet it doesn't look like like, you know, the

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Speaker 2: poop emoji or something. Oh right, yeah, well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: give you a pass on that one. Is that ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: But I got something for you if you got a second?

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Speaker 3: Yes, please.

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Speaker 2: The Amish, that's mean. No, No, I didn't say they're ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I'm just clearing the air. The Amish, in all honesty.

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Speaker 2: The Amish. You know those dudes, the ones with the

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Speaker 2: beards and the barn raised wagons and stuff. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know how they party like at sixteen ninety nine? Right, Well, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: would you be surprised to learn that they also are

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Speaker 2: into crime.

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Speaker 3: I would be surprised by.

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Speaker 2: That, really. Okay, yeah, well they are. Turns out sometimes

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Speaker 2: Hezekiah is pushing weight in his little old horse and buggy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like you can imagine old Zephaniah out there like Jay

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Speaker 2: z like, ain't trying to see no highway chase with Jake.

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Speaker 2: Plus got a few horses and a bond, I can

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Speaker 2: fight the case. So I pull over to the side

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Speaker 2: of the road and I heard son, Do you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm stopping you for? Because I'm young and I'm

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Speaker 2: Amish and my beard's real low? Or do I look

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Speaker 2: like a mind reader?

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Speaker 4: Sir?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Elizabeth, buckle up, utter capit's about a

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Speaker 2: get wild.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Amish, Okay, this is ridiculous crime, A podcast about

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Speaker 4: absurd and outrageous capers hi and cons.

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Speaker 2: Oh it is nine percent murder free a and ridiculous. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, yes, Elizabeth, I affirm that, dear co host. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I guess we should just get this straight out of

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Speaker 2: the way. What do you know about the Amish and

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Speaker 2: the Mennonites.

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Speaker 3: Uh, the Amish or Pennsylvania type stuff.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of Mennonites in the South, are there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: when I lived in South Carolina there was a Mennonite community.

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Speaker 3: The nicest people, yes, so nice, and they're like really

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Speaker 3: hard working. They had a bunch of different businesses and

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Speaker 3: restaurant and a bunch of other stuff. The carpentry yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: crafty folk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So they're generally they can.

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Speaker 3: Use like electricity and stuff. The Mennonites and the Amish

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Speaker 3: they don't do that kind of they don't get with

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Speaker 3: like computers and right, am I.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're mostly right. I'm just enjoying this. We go on. No,

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Speaker 2: but in all honestly, you are pretty correct. That is

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Speaker 2: that is a very good general read. Usually that's pretty

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Speaker 2: much what I knew about the Amish and the men

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Speaker 3: Well then I know weird Amish paradise.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yes, yeah. Well the Pennsylvania Dutch that's

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Speaker 2: even though they obviously aren't all in Pennsylvania, but that

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Speaker 2: was the big first amalgamation. Have you ever been to

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Speaker 2: behind an all black horse drawn buggy stuck on a two.

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Speaker 3: Lane road No, I've not. I've been stuck behind like

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Speaker 3: a combine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically the same idea, just add in like

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Speaker 2: my tourist family.

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Speaker 3: And no engine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the cultural Amish. Do you you ever seen

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Speaker 2: the Woody Harrelson, Bill Murray Bowling movie Kingpin?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, do you remember the Amish in that? I

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Speaker 2: don't know so Randy Cid he plays a big Amish bowl,

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Speaker 2: right right? Okay? How about the eighties movie Witness and

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Speaker 2: early Harrison Ford Banger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember any of it?

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Speaker 3: Barely?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it doesn't really matter. That's the cultural Amish.

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Speaker 2: And then, of course you obviously brought up where a

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Speaker 2: lot of people like we know about the Amish weird

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Speaker 2: al does Coolio's video Gangster's Paradise as Amish Paradise. Do

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Speaker 2: you remember the enny of that one?

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Speaker 3: No? I know the the the hook, but that's it.

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Speaker 2: Like, as I walk through the valley where I harvest

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Speaker 2: my grain, I take a look at my wife and

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Speaker 2: realize she's very plain. But that's just perfect for an

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Speaker 2: homage like me. You know what shun fancy things like

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Speaker 2: electricity At four thirty in the morning, I'm milking cows,

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Speaker 2: Jebba dive feeding the chickens, and Jacob plows. So that's Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: I know, your favorite weird al song? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: I mean right? Am I wrong about?

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Speaker 3: I don't really have a favorite. Really, don't maybe do

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Speaker 3: Sophie's choice? Like what is this doctor dementor.

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Speaker 2: Spending most of our lives living in an Amish paradce. No, no,

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Speaker 2: you're still a hanger anyway, So power weirdo. Excuse me

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Speaker 2: some backstory. Elizabeth, as ghost face would say, it's time

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Speaker 2: for us to quote separate the English from the Dutch.

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Speaker 2: So you know how the Amish they call us the English.

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Speaker 2: Are you aware of this?

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Speaker 2: So they say like, oh, looks looks smart, mother, We're

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Speaker 2: out among the English. You know, they call us the English.

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Speaker 2: So the Pennsylvania Dutch, however, are not Dutch. And just

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Speaker 2: like how we're not English, they're wrong on both counts.

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Speaker 2: So they're actually Germans as in my people the Deutsch.

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Speaker 2: But over time I got American mouthed into Dutch, so

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Speaker 2: they're Pennsylvania Deutsch Dutch. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: So there are also two groups, the Amish and the Mennoniss.

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Speaker 2: We've discussed. They look similar, they act similar They believe

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Speaker 2: similar things. They both are pacifists by practice and isolationist

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Speaker 2: by nature. Now, this similarity is there for a good reason.

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Speaker 2: They started out as one people. So back in the

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Speaker 2: old country of Germany, the Amage started out as the

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Speaker 2: old order Amish. Now when they got here, they got

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Speaker 2: here early. I'm talking real early, like Amish exiles from

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Speaker 2: Germany in Switzerland and Russia. They had set up shop

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Speaker 2: in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania before it was Pennsylvania, before it

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Speaker 2: was Lancaster County, before King Charles the Second gave William

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Speaker 2: Penn the land before even known as Penn's Woods. They

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Speaker 2: were out there being Amish.

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Speaker 3: And they're like are you They're like, what kind of

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Speaker 3: amish Amish?

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Speaker 2: Today? So they've been there, as I said, for a minute,

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Speaker 2: right these days, as you pointed out, you can find

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Speaker 2: them everywhere. They spread out. They went there in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: This is the Amish. Now the Mennonites, they obviously go

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Speaker 2: further because they have a fewer restrictions. Now, obviously, both

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Speaker 2: groups adhere to a simple way of life. They prefer

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Speaker 2: handmade clothes, houses, and barns they build themselves. They reject

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Speaker 2: technology and modernity. But the drama, Okay, the Amish in

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Speaker 2: the Mennonites, they split from each other. When did this happen? Well,

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Speaker 2: back in the old world, back in sixteen ninety three.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, it wasn't like an American splinter se No,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Like once we're here, like it would start our own things.

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Speaker 3: They love men, and we're out of here.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, y'all don't love men and like we do. So

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Speaker 3: Yes, they saw Beechie waves in their hair.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, that's what I thought. I thought a picture them

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Speaker 2: They're not even coastal. They are in like Illinois and Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an old term. Just happens to be an

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's no Ian Curtis, like post Ian Curtis

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Speaker 2: This is such a mouthful. People are like, well, we

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Speaker 2: the Mennonites of Amish origin caps exactly, well, the men

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Speaker 2: it that. People are like, we got to come up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it's messy.

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Speaker 2: My point is there's a lot of them, and there's

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's in Africa, yeah, Bulliser Maya, whoa another South Africa?

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Speaker 2: Nope, I give you another hand. Horn of Africa. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: They got like treads and stuff in their beards. Is

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Speaker 2: that there's three hundred and ten thousand men Knites living

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Speaker 3: So, and these are black Mennonites.

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Speaker 2: They're very similar, but of beers and no microphone, the megaphone.

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Speaker 2: They're just sitting at the old school ones like the cone.

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Speaker 2: They just shout in the cone. Okay, Elizabeth, you remember

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Speaker 2: World War One? Right? It was rough on me. Yes,

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Speaker 2: in World War One we were fighting against the Kaiser

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Speaker 2: and yeah, the Jerry. So this meant the Pennsylvania Dutch,

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Speaker 2: the German culture, domage, amendance. They were targets for abuse. Right,

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Speaker 2: So dateline Kansas nineteen seventeen. The Great War, Its bloodshed's

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Speaker 2: Obviously they form into angry mobs and go and attack

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Speaker 3: Is that why they were like, oh, we're not We're

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. I don't have an answer for that.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's say it happened.

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Speaker 2: Though I liked that that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly good.

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Speaker 2: guess we're coming to the war. They thought this might

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, instead of terrorizing the alleged Kaiser

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Speaker 3: So notably worried that the declaration of war in the

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Speaker 2: Them, It's going to activate the Mennonites to go get

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Speaker 3: Evanchurian candate kind of like my theory that the cars

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Speaker 2: Some political Eventually they'll put in the actual Yeah, like the.

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Speaker 3: Manchurian candidate, Someone's going to hear it and just like

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Speaker 2: That are different. They're like, oh, time to go kill

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Speaker 2: The single largest group of men andites living in Kansas

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Speaker 2: But you'll find that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a large contingent of them. So the Kansas,

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Speaker 2: So one April evening in nineteen eighteen, with America's involvement

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Speaker 2: Now twenty of the men pulled on masts just like

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Speaker 3: Yes see, Okay, these men weren't fighting over in flanders Field.

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Speaker 3: But they'll go and get mad at these dudes for

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Speaker 2: I should seriously. So they break into this Mennonite farmer's home.

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Speaker 2: And this man was not born to Mennonite. He was

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Speaker 2: the new War. And he's like, okay, I'm a pacifist.

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Speaker 2: So they're like, well, we're gonna we're gonna tar and

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Speaker 2: I got some warm house paint. So they poured warm

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Speaker 2: he rolled around the feathers. After that, the mob was satisfied.

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Speaker 2: That's justice, mob, justice, and they left. But they weren't

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Speaker 2: They drove twenty three miles to the county's edge. There

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Speaker 2: They wears your flag, mister, it's not.

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Speaker 3: The time to be The Lord doesn't want you to

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Speaker 2: This moment, God wants blood swing on them. A young

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Speaker 3: Would say that's not respectful to.

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Speaker 2: Nail exactly, so the flag should not be left out

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Speaker 2: at night. He knew that he brought it in. The

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Speaker 3: Like people who are like, you can't burn the flag

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Speaker 2: So they these the crowd, the angry mob. They decided

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Speaker 2: So a few days past, the angry mob reforms and

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Speaker 2: you guess it, Elizabeth, they poured warm paint on him

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Speaker 2: were satisfied. Now my favorite of these men night stories

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Speaker 2: where jas is one and a half. These good Kansas

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Speaker 2: the angry mob, so they went out there, line of

435
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,679
Speaker 2: cars headed out in middle of the night to this

436
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 2: non flag owning farmer. The man came out to face

437
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,679
Speaker 2: the angry mob. Right, rather than shrink from fear, this

438
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 2: farmer he's a little bit tougher. He's like, do even

439
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 2: yell all the hot words of violence in my face?

440
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 2: You want to, I'm gonna start singing. So he starts singing.

441
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 2: What does he sing Elizabeth.

442
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 3: Onward Christian Soldiers, Oh.

443
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 2: Good one America, the beautiful Oh, in his best church voice,

444
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,200
Speaker 2: full throated singing and out the mob was overcome with patriotism.

445
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: They start singing along with him. By they don't even

446
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 2: get to the end of the first verse. They're joining it.

447
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,119
Speaker 3: But if they if they tuned up this farmer, then

448
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna be like overcome with starvation. They need these

449
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 3: guys growing their food.

450
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 2: But they're all farmers though I am just not to

451
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 2: the angry mob. They continue to sing with the farmer right,

452
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 2: but then their voices fall away as he continues to sing.

453
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 2: Why would that be Elizabeth? They don't know the words.

454
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 2: He knows the worst than they do. No, he starts

455
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: shaming them with his inarguable americanness that they do not have. Lastly,

456
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 2: there's my man John Shrek. This dude, he looks like

457
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 2: a Mennonite's idea of a bad man, right, just imagine

458
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: like a Mennonite biker.

459
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 3: Right.

460
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 2: So the angry Mutt mob it comes out to old

461
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,479
Speaker 2: John Shrag's farm and they attempt to intimidate John Shrag

462
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: and he has some sons and he's like, I don't

463
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't allow that, right, and they're like, you need

464
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: to buy war bonds. We are the angry mob. And

465
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't give a yeah he wants so

466
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not buying any war bonds. I'm a pacifist,

467
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 2: dang it. And so then the angry mob they decided

468
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: to do their thing. They ransack his house, they ransack

469
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: his barn. They go and they steal tools from his shed.

470
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 2: They're like, I always wanted this saw, right anyway. Finally

471
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: they dug a drawn Shrag outside. They drag him outside.

472
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 2: They push an American flag into his hand. They're like

473
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 2: hold this, and he's like, I'm not holding that, and

474
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: he lets it drop. Right. Some of the crowd shouts,

475
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 2: he stepped on the flag. And now they want they

476
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: want blood, right, They're out for it. They start beating

477
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: up the pacifist farmer. Right. Then they bring out the

478
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: warm house paint in the feathers. But that's not enough

479
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: this time. Now they want a new level. So someone's like,

480
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: get a rope. They gonna hang John Shrag, right, So

481
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 2: what does this farmer do at this point? He can't sing,

482
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: he ain't got a voice. He starts quoting the Bible

483
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 2: at them. Oh, one eyewitness said, and I quote, there

484
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: was some kind of glow come over his face, and

485
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: he just looked like Christ. They slug him on one

486
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: side of the face and he'd turn his cheeks on

487
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: the other. He exemplified the life of Christ more than

488
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: any man I ever saw in my life.

489
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's living it out.

490
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: He's just speaking it exactly. He's taking the blows for it,

491
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: just like Christ. He caught some lefts and rights in

492
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: the Wow. Yeah, they were like Roman centurion stomping anyway,

493
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: because of his wave of violence. The governor and others

494
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: all excused. Everyone's like, I can't believe these Mennonites just

495
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: won't get with the program. So the men Knights were like,

496
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: all right, that we're out of here. So some went

497
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: off to Mexico, some went to Canada, and surprisingly large

498
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 2: numbers left, and thus the large numbers in Canada and

499
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: in Mexico which Quitcidentally also brings us to the fact

500
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: that this movement was what's credited with leading to the

501
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: rise of the Mennonite mob and the Amish cocaine cowboys.

502
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 2: Oh what Yeah, after this rake, I'll be back to

503
00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: tell you all about that. And we're back. Yes, tell

504
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: you ready for more? Yes? How do you feel? And

505
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 2: feel a little amish?

506
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: I you know, I'm still kind of those farmers who

507
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: are coming at the Mennonites. It's like, take that heat

508
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: and go fight.

509
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 2: Yes you want to go do violence. We have some

510
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: players for you.

511
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: They are begging for going.

512
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: Now.

513
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: Whatever you want over there, Well.

514
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: I'll wear a poppy for you later.

515
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: Okay. Remember how I said Mennonites migrated to Canada.

516
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: I remember that, following.

517
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: The persecution long time ago. I remember it. So the

518
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: ones who moved to Mexico, they'd really they've been testing

519
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: the bounds of their faith and their dedication to the

520
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: old fashioned ways. We'll say many men Nights who settled

521
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: down in the quantum Oka region of Mexico. They got

522
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: chummy with the cartels. So back in twenty thirteen, Mexican Mennonites,

523
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: which is what they're known, they were busted for operating

524
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: a drug pipeline for the cartels. They've been distributing coke

525
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 2: into from Mexico and via South America into the more

526
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: lucrative markets of Canada and the US.

527
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: By horse drawn carriage.

528
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: Just bugging over the border. So they give you a

529
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: buggy with spinner rims maybe ground effects. So now for real,

530
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: the DEA popped up this Mexican Mennonite for running eleven

531
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: thousand pounds of marijuana and thirty kilos of cocaine. The

532
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: drugs readed into Alberta, Canada. The bus came about after

533
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: years of surveillance and wiretapping.

534
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 3: So, wait, they're coming from Mexico through so they're going

535
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: to go through the United States in.

536
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: The air well, sometimes you can just like yeah, maybe

537
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: fly into or bring it even ship into Canada. Yeah,

538
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: So it was a total surprise for the DA. They

539
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: did not expect to find this Mennie connection. So the

540
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: bus started with an investigation into this rumor that old

541
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: tractors and farm equipment were being used as a cover

542
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: to obscure shipments of cocaine. Yeah, the first agents were like, okay, yeah,

543
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: sure the Amage were helping the center cartel Pushwait, okay, buddy, anyway, genius,

544
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: they get their parties all sorted. They found that the

545
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: men it was Mennonites, not the Amish, who were indeed

546
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: slang in that YAlO. So the DA said, and the

547
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: press release quote, we've partnered very well with the Royal

548
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: Canadian Mounted Police, and between the two agencies we identified

549
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: a much larger international organization that comprised a lot of

550
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: people from the Mexican Mennonite community, which had deep historical

551
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: relationships to other men Andite communities in the US and Canada.

552
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: They went, yeah, GOODU yeah exactly, it's like Al Braso

553
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: with the Mormon community. They get down to Mexico, They're like,

554
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna do this. Remember El Brazo. Okay. So as

555
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: the investigation broadened, the authorities discovered that the men Nite

556
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: drug kingpins were not working with El Chappo and the

557
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: Sinaloa cartel. They were instead working with the rival Juarez cartel,

558
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: which is a little violent, and they were earning what

559
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: they called tributes for their distribution. They called it. They

560
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: had to put it in their language, like will you

561
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: tie to our church? Anyway? So the Mexican hotels they

562
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: why would they seek out a business arrangement with the Mennonites,

563
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: Like how did that even happen?

564
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 3: Because it's a great cover, right that it is a.

565
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: Good clever right, But what about the beards, Barnes and

566
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: suspenders said, we'll be googa.

567
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 3: Cocaine at that I don't know, right, So the.

568
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Cartels had found that they made a good partner for them,

569
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: and I did some research on this. According to Fredrick Darouch,

570
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: who is a professor of sociology at Saint Jerome's University

571
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: in Waterloo, Ontario, he said, back in two thousand and five,

572
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: he wrote a book called The Crime that Pays Drug

573
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: Trafficking and Organized Crime in Canada. So he's like, you know,

574
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: the expert on Canadian drug crime, right, he spoke to

575
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: this because you know, this pops up occasionally and like

576
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: you know, conferences he speaks at. People are like, hey,

577
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: what about the Mennonite drugs And he's like, oh, I

578
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: got a great one for that. He's like, okay, I

579
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: have an answer for that. So there's a large number

580
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: of drug runners and distributors and cartel leaders I've spoken

581
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: to in the course of my investigations. I found that

582
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: there's one simple reason why the cartels choose the Mennonites

583
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 2: for business partners. Can you guess what it is?

584
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: Well, because they're pacifist, they're not going to fight back.

585
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: He's random enough. I mean, it's just like the Wars

586
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: cartel go to see that war as you got dead folks,

587
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: you can't get a mayor. And they're like, I don't know,

588
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: that's what I would think.

589
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: I thought so too. Yeah, they kind of suck. But

590
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: the drug smugglers and the cocaine cowboys, all of them.

591
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: They like to minimize risk, right, And one way to

592
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: minimize risk is by investing in a tight knit ethnic clan.

593
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: So they yeah, they're like the Serbians, we are going

594
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: to betray each other. We are tight, so they reduce

595
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: any chances for betrayal. So, you know, crime will always

596
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: find the best way that human beings work together, you know,

597
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: by nature of R and D. Anyway, So Elizabeth, enough

598
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: about the Men of Nights. You're ready for an Amite strug.

599
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: Deal born ready?

600
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: All right, So a little more about the homition. Why

601
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: they act like they do as a faith community Amish,

602
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: they form districts. They typically have thirty families that create

603
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: a community, and then they have no formal church. They

604
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: don't build a building, right, so when they hold services,

605
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: they just gather in a barn or a farmhouse, and

606
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: then they kind to do it themselves, much like the Quakers.

607
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: Right now, get this, the leader of this church is

608
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: not self appointed much like many of the other American churches.

609
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: You can't just go out and say I'm a mass exactly.

610
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: So they homage to it old school, I mean like

611
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: old school. They do it the exact same way that

612
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: the Apostles did it when they in the time of Jesus.

613
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: They cast lots. Okay, casting lots is how the Apostles

614
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: decided who should be the leader of the Apostles. After

615
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: Judas had kind of punked out for a handful of silver,

616
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: we need a new leader. And that's how Peter gets

617
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: in there. Anyway, So the congregation they nominated a bunch

618
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: of candidates and they bring in a Bible, but literally

619
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: they bring in like the Bible to sort it out,

620
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: but not just one Bible. They bring in a table

621
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: load of Bible. They do a big old sack of bibles.

622
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: They create a pyramid of Bibles. Then they play a

623
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: game of short straw with the bibles. So they put

624
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: all these Bibles on a table and then they tell

625
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: the candidates, starting with the oldest, they get to go first.

626
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: They go, okay, go up to the table, pick a bible. Okay,

627
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: there was a ruminate and they can't open they have

628
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: to just pick right. So they pick a bible and

629
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: then but there before the congregation they select from the

630
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: table of bibles. They open it and if inside the

631
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: bible there is a slip of paper that says, you

632
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: are now the special leader. Guy, you get to be

633
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: the special leader and not just a special leader. You're

634
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: now the quote minister for life.

635
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

636
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: So that person they lead the community. But the community

637
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: is actually led more by something they called the ord Nung.

638
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: So the ord Nung is a code of conduct, and

639
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: it guides the community's behavior and their choices. It's a

640
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: blueprint for living. And when I say a blueprint, I

641
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: mean this thing covers everything. It tells the men how

642
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: high to wear their suspenders. Oh, it tells the ladies

643
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: like the expectations of how to wear a bonnet, or

644
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: like what colored the smock should be. It tells a

645
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: man how wide his brim of his hat straw hat

646
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: should be. I mean it covers it all right.

647
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: It's like Catholic school uniforms.

648
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: Exactly with the same gusto. The or Nung also tells

649
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 2: people how to comport themselves in the community, and so

650
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: they it's like their flexible ten commandments that they can

651
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 2: rewrite except for with way more commandments. So the provost

652
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: of Messiah College, he told the Washington Post that quote,

653
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: the important thing of being Homish is the willingness to

654
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: submit to the ord Nung. So it's like the rule,

655
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: it's penal cosh exactly. So back to our crimers who

656
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: followed the ord Nung in twenty twenty one, this cat,

657
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm about to tell you he stunned local and federal

658
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: authorities with the size of his pot growing operation and

659
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: the location. Quote, It's like, you know, I thought the

660
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: Amish were against technology. Who's paying this dude's light bill?

661
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Because apparently down in Lawrence County, Tennessee, Sarah's deputies had

662
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: no expectation that when they rolled up to the home

663
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: of Chris Appleby they would find an Omish pot gangster.

664
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: So Detective Jason Jenk told his local news outlet, quote,

665
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, my partners and I were

666
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: mind boggled by how it was just right there, rolled

667
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: up from the earth exactly so the inside that he

668
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 2: had it in a grow house, right. Cops found twenty

669
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: five pounds of pot, which is a fair amount of pot. Yeah,

670
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: and thirteen weapons, and a large pile of cash. Typical

671
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: drug dealer bust. Yeah, not a typical Amish bust. So

672
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: the detective Janki said, quote, you never hear anything bad

673
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: come out of the en much per se. There's bad

674
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: apples in every crowd, but never thought it would be

675
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: this big, especially with this amount of marijuana. So apparently

676
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: the issue for old Chris Appleby wasn't that he was Amish.

677
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: It was that his neighbors were amish because.

678
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: They snitched on them.

679
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that wasn't the fact that he was amish.

680
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: It was that his neighbors were Detectives figured out, like

681
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: how to.

682
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: The neighbors they see all the lights like late at night,

683
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: They're like, what kind of amish folk?

684
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: It is immediately a lot of candlepower exactly, like what

685
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: kind of tapers is he burning? Mall?

686
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: So Chris Appleby might not be living his best Amish life,

687
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, he'd been spending most of the

688
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: live living in an Amish paradise. Sorry anyway, Normally the

689
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: homage community quote is, as Detective Jankie said, handles things

690
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: within themselves. I can't go into what the complaints were,

691
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: but it was enough for us to look into it,

692
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: and we all looking into it. We did get probable

693
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: cost to execute a search warrant. So the search warrant

694
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: they got, they got the property, they find twenty five

695
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: pounds of pot, and then they find old Chris Appleby

696
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: and Elizabeth. I'd like you to see what old Chris

697
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: Appleby looks like.

698
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: He just whos from the office.

699
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: It looks like Rain Wilson's buddy. You might be wondering,

700
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: what is this clean cut, mo's looking extra guy doing

701
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: in a policeman So, as I said, he was not

702
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: born into the Amish tradition. He was a late convert.

703
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: Wow, the hair looks like hair.

704
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: In the goateee. He looks like he's like I tried

705
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: to take a shot at the guy who killed Abraham Lincoln. Anyway,

706
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Detective Jankie said, quote from talking to him. He said,

707
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: he moved down here seven years ago is and joined

708
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: the Amish community. He just wanted to kind of slow

709
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: down and live the slow life of the Amish community.

710
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: Oh, so he's a convert.

711
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe any of it. I'm like, I'd

712
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: be willing to bet you he was always planning on

713
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: building an enormous grow house and hiding it among the office.

714
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: And he's like, looky, LEVI you two amos. I love

715
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: to raise barn as much as the next fellow. So

716
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: if you just really you know, I just needed to

717
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: get away from my Brooklyn startup. So can I join

718
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: the community, and of like, oh, of course, brother, I

719
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: just want to grow stuff, you know. Anyway, the thirty

720
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: three year old international industrial pot grower, he caught four

721
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: criminal charges. Huh So this Chris Appleby, the son of

722
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: the Applebee's founder, which I believe is related. You you're

723
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: from the South. How would this be related to Cracker Barrel?

724
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: Oh? Applebee's is a totally an amash Cracker Barrel.

725
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: Oh perfect, Okay, I'm not sure I've.

726
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: Been to Cracker Barrel once. I don't think I've been

727
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: doing Applebee's.

728
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well it's not worth I've seen it. You

729
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: may enjoy it. Who knows you're you like experience.

730
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: I'll try to take my chance.

731
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes food poison gives you good fun times

732
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: you get it like really recentered.

733
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: Wait, and then you know there's going to be like

734
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: an Applebee's ad cut to break exactly.

735
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: That's just going to happen. But anyway, let's just cut

736
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: to an ass for yourselves. So when we're back, we'll

737
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: get into the story of amaged drug dealers who partnered

738
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: with an outlaw motorcycle gang to go full hardcore drug

739
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: king pep. Oh wow, the right, Elizabeth, We're back.

740
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Yep, we are.

741
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: So enough about Moby's cousin, the hot Dealer, Elizabeth. Have

742
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: you ever heard of the East Coast motorcycle gang, the Pagans. Yes, yes,

743
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: you know them. Uh, okay, So they are the East

744
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: Coast rival of the Hells Angels.

745
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. They had like a big shootout in outside of

746
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, right, was.

747
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: It more recently you're talking. Yes, they are constantly getting

748
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: in big gun fights. Yes, kind of their thing. It's

749
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: like one of their hobbies, like turn ons and turn offs,

750
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: big gun fights outside of casinos. So they're big in

751
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: New Jersey. It's long walks on the beach with a gun.

752
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: But New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, that's where you'll find

753
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: their strongholds. But you also find up and down the

754
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: Atlantic Coast, North Carolina. They were particular. They really like Florida.

755
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: You know, you'll find them everywhere. Yeah, Pagan's not a

756
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: good group, bad bunch.

757
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

758
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they founded back in the good old days

759
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: of nineteen fifty seven. This is about a decade after

760
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: the Hells angel Yeah. Yeah, So the Hells Angels get

761
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: founded in Hollister or down in the Holster, but in

762
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: a basically, I guess like southern California. I think the Lancaster.

763
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly where, which town, but anyway.

764
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 3: It was up here.

765
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: I think pretty sure southern California because they used all

766
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: the aircraft. It's a bunch of like old bike old

767
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: uh US Army veterans. Yeah, War two veterans. A lot

768
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: of them were in the they were pilots and they

769
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: were involved, and he used the aviation.

770
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: Guess what, my man, I'm gonna look it up.

771
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: Please look it up.

772
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: It's not up here, but it was what I was

773
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: gonna think.

774
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: Burdu Samo Okay, so I said, Lancaster, not San Bernardin.

775
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: I'll mak It's one of those.

776
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: Like Burdu on their on their rocker on the back.

777
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: So I thought that was like one of the first chapters.

778
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: It is the first chapter, okay, sand Burdu, So there

779
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: you go. So unlike the Hell's Angels getting found founded

780
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: in San Bernardino, ak Samburdue. The Pagans they get started

781
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: in Prince George's County, Maryland a decade later, and they're

782
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: in a different sort. They were like a British bike club.

783
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 2: They rode triumphs. They dressed like British ton up boys

784
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: of the nineteen fifties. Right, they didn't go for the

785
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: whole like Hell's Angel, like, we want to do our

786
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: best impression of Marlon Brando in the Wild One. That

787
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: was the original look for it. Yeah.

788
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 3: The Hell's Angels also by shunning like the convention, they

789
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 3: had shaggier hair. So you're saying these guys were like so.

790
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: These guys were getting doors, shaped up hair, looking very

791
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: much rolled up jeans, exactly looking like guys who would

792
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: beat up the Beatles. So the sixties come about, the

793
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: culture changes. Now the outlaw biker gangs emerge and the

794
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: Hell's Angels they grow their beards longer, they get longer hair.

795
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: So do the Pagans. They're like, that's the thing, man,

796
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: forget the times. They buy American bikes and so the

797
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Hell's Angels and the Pagans become just like the one

798
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: percent you hear about like the real bad outlaw bikers.

799
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: Of wealth in this country.

800
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: No, yes, on the back of the isn't that like

801
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: from an article?

802
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like the lawlessness.

803
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a nineteen fifty is a guy

804
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: who wrote a new hyper article saying that only one

805
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: percent or motorcycle riders are you do crime? And so

806
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: then they became proud of that we are the one percent.

807
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

808
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: So the Pagans were exclusively white, just like the Hell's Angels.

809
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: They admit no black members. So I can't be a Pagan.

810
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: You're lost. Pagans. Anyway, they've since overtime loosened their standard.

811
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: They will now allow Puerto Ricans.

812
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we saw that on Sons of Er.

813
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, still no black folks allowed, exactly. So one Pagan

814
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: club apparently authorities where they were surveilling the club and

815
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: they listened in as the outlaw bikers. They threatened a

816
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: prospective new member and they go, we got to syringe here, buddy,

817
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: it's filled with sickle sill.

818
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: And the blacks.

819
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: They are going to inject them with sickle sill because

820
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: they said he may be possibly a black biker and

821
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: if he was a black biker.

822
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: Sitting there as the possible black biker. I'd be like,

823
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: time out, guys, where did you source a syringe of sickles?

824
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: Exactly?

825
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Like, how where do you order that?

826
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: I also got a little bit of faulmus Gland here.

827
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: We're going to test that on Bobby later. So these

828
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: ranging from the Pagans, they've been in a long standing

829
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: turf for as to say, with the Hell's Angels, that

830
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: leads to all sorts of violence. In the late nineties,

831
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: the Outlaw biker gang was led by a former cop

832
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: named Steve Gorilla Montravine or Montravain anyway. He was an

833
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: undisputed badass.

834
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: Right to pretend that that's his like birth certificate middle

835
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: name Gorilla.

836
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, his mom was just real funny like that DVG.

837
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: So this dude was once shot nine times called close range,

838
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: and just like Tupac, he survived, although I'm sure he'd

839
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 2: object to that analogy. Well, the first time, five times,

840
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: the second time, yeah, all right, but he did anyway.

841
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: So after he survived the attempt on his life, this

842
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: bike gang leader Gorilla, he led his Pagans to go

843
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: get revenge at a Hell's Angel event called the Hell

844
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: razors ball in Long Island. The old time national President

845
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: Sunny Barger, he was there, right. It was like a thing.

846
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: So all the Hell's Angels there, the Pagans they roll

847
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: up and they go into like where the Hell's Angels

848
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: are basically partying again this casino and they start this well,

849
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: they show up strapped right and although the New York

850
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: Times tell the story Elizabeth You're ready yes quote. Just

851
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: after four pm, the authority said, the vans arrived, some

852
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: pulling up to the spot where limousines usually discharge elegantly

853
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: gowned and tuxedoed couples. Outmarched a collection of long haired

854
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: men with scraggly beards and faded denim vests, some of

855
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: them so beefy that later the police had to use

856
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: three sets of handcuffs to link their hands behind their backs.

857
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: As astonished attendees look down from a sweeping carpeted staircase,

858
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: the Pagans began knocking over tables in the hall's pastel

859
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: painted lobby. The police said it did not take long

860
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: for the Angels to respond. Within minutes, the police said

861
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: Raymond Dwyer thirty eight, A Hell's Angel and a tattoo

862
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: artist from Oceanside, New York, opened fire at the invaders

863
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: with a small caliber handgun, wounding five people inside a casino.

864
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: He was just like, let them spray geta When the

865
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: gun smoke cleared. Seventy three outlaw bikers were arrested. Sixty

866
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: six of them pleaded guilty to quote federal racketeering related

867
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: charges stemming from the practice. One person was dead at

868
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: Pagan and around the same time, two Amish boys saw

869
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: this going down, and they thought to themselves, how do

870
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: we bring our buggies to this gunfight?

871
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: Wait, so we do have a one percent of the

872
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: one percent?

873
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I guess there was a murder there. Yeah,

874
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: he was definitely murked one percent. Yes. So back in

875
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, there was a pair of Amish dudes

876
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: who were running coke for the Pagans. This is their story.

877
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: O good, So Elizabeth meet Abner King Stolsfuss twenty three

878
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: and Abner Stolsfoss twenty five, two dudes with exactly the

879
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: same name, not related. Well, so the dudes were busted

880
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: alongside eight members of the Pagans for pushing coke into

881
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Dutch Country. The bus was a result of a

882
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: five year investigation into cocaine distribution and the Outlaw Biker gang.

883
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: So you ever heard of Intercourse, Pennsylvania?

884
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: Beautiful place?

885
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: Never been there? Okay, Well I used to have a

886
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: shirt that said I Love Intercourse. Yeah, I'm that kind

887
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: of guy. He is right in your paradise.

888
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: Did you get it at like what was what's the

889
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 3: joke like, novelty place in the mall?

890
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: Spencer's gifts for every twenty one? Yeah, well no, I

891
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: bought it at a good will like a real person does, Elizabeth.

892
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: So there's a these a bunch of these little towns

893
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: with funny names like Paradise, Intercourse, Bird in Hand, Pennsylvania.

894
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: So that's where we are. Imagine you are right down

895
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: the street from Bird InHand, Pennsylvania, and you're hanging out

896
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: with Abner. Okay, there's sense. There's two of them. I'm

897
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: gonna call them Abner King and Abner not King, because

898
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: one of them has the middle name Abner King Schools foots, Okay,

899
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: the other one's just Abner stools foots. So we're just

900
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: gonna call them Abner.

901
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: King and King and Abbey King exactly perfect.

902
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: So the Pennsylvania Dutch of Lancaster County is a picturesque

903
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: part of America. I've been there numerous times. I've told

904
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: you about it totally. Yeah, haystacks, barnes, you'd love it.

905
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 2: Is this sort of place where tourists clogged the roads

906
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: just to get a view of the haystacks? Is it

907
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: all well?

908
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: Is it just the Thomas kinkcad of it?

909
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: All it is? You would love it? Yes, it's very

910
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: not you. So meanwhile, there's farm kids starting rails of

911
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: cocaine in the back of those barns. Who knew right,

912
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: So one Amish woman told The New York Times quote,

913
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: so many people have an idealistic view of the homage

914
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: and treat as if we are wonderful people. I love

915
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: the Amish people, but we have our faults and our problems.

916
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: It's not good for us to be looked upon as

917
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: morally great. We aren't perfect. This barney gonna raise itself exactly. So,

918
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: besides the choice to cater to the tourist dollar, there

919
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: were other economic pressures at work, namely the challenges facing

920
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: the small American farmer. Elizabeth. Always, with each generation there

921
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: are fewer, fewer farmers and fewer farms to be had.

922
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: So the young men who seek to one day have

923
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: their own farm, they struggled to purchase farmlands. Are like,

924
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: you know, cocaine's a good way to raise money, but

925
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: not these guys. They didn't want to raise money to

926
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: buy farmland. Right. But as Donald Crabill, the provost of

927
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: Messiah College in Grantham, Pennsylvania. He's the author of quote

928
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 2: the book The Riddle of Amish Culture. Oh love that title.

929
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't know why enigma exactly shrouded and enigma wrapped

930
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: in a riddle. Quote. There is a myth that these

931
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: are innocent, barefoot peasants. People don't realize how much they

932
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: interact with the outside world. But I don't think any

933
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: of us thought they were barefoot peasants. But anyway, I

934
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: get it. You wrote the book you want to be

935
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: dramatic cell pages anyway, not to mention the idea that

936
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 2: the Olamash We've always talked about this, we talked about earlier.

937
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: We say they never used technology. Turns out a.

938
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: Myth they have cell phones, right.

939
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

940
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: I saw something in like sixty minutes where they're at

941
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: a farmer's market.

942
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: Yes, they eshoe technology, they avoid it. They aren't against it.

943
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: They don't see it as a sin. They just say

944
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: it's like a performance enhancing drug, you know what I mean.

945
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: Like so they look at their phone and they're like ew.

946
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly much like me or you. They're like, I

947
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: don't want to touch it. So now I've been in

948
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: an Amtrak station in Chicago, which is absolutely stuff with

949
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: men in nites. Really yeah. And I've been in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,

950
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: and the mall just stuffed with Amish. So I know

951
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: for a fact that these people, and I'm talking to

952
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: old ones, not the young, like, oh I'm out there

953
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 2: like just in my oats. No.

954
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: So you know, like anyway, not the eminem Amish.

955
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: No, But I was when I was in the Chicago

956
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: train station. I couldn't believe it. They were taking buses

957
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: to get there. Getting on the train with me just

958
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: rife with men and nits. I was like, I guess gas.

959
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: No one rides for free hy yaikaya. Anyway, Rum Springer,

960
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: I mentioned this tradition in your episode on the William Bowalda. Yes,

961
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: And so the Amish community, they set their young children

962
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: out into the world. They just go get out. They

963
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: push them out like fledglings, right, they're like, go fly

964
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: on your own, and they were out there armed only

965
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: with the values they taught them.

966
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: They're like a juvenile redtail.

967
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: Hawk exactly, just shrieking mom, Mom, wears my. Once they

968
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: turn eighteen, they're turned loose, right, and they're told to

969
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: experience life among the English. Now at twenty four they

970
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: are invited to return to become members of the church.

971
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: So for six years they get to just run wild

972
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: and reckless.

973
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: Years.

974
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, wild and reckless.

975
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a year, I thought the

976
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: eighteen months.

977
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, so it's a And after they see

978
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: the outside world they can willingly choose to rejoin the

979
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Church of a full heart and blubble right. Sometimes, as

980
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: their parents worry, the young Amish are seduced away. They

981
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: drift into worldliness.

982
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: They just love the big Max.

983
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: They can't help it. That cheese is so cheesy. Now

984
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: the two abners King and not King. They were not

985
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: alone and being seduced away. As one Amish teen said,

986
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: this person, by the way, was a young man, and

987
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: he was quote standing barefoot beside a team of five

988
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: mules hitched to a hay baler.

989
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: Oh but they're not barefoot peasants.

990
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: So apparently I'm wrong. I gotta take it back, so

991
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: he told The New York Times. Quote, they wear white

992
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: sneakers and English pants. They won't wear the pants their

993
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: mothers make for them anymore. Oh do they think they are?

994
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: So these are his parents. Yeah, he's like the fourteen

995
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: year old who doesn't want to turn.

996
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: Out like the others, like my two Abners.

997
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Exactly. Can you imagine, Elizabeth. I mean, these days it's

998
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: become like a kind of like a time for the

999
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: young Amish to get you know, tact while, get drunk

1000
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: partying bars. They even can buy flashy cars. They go

1001
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: out there and they have cocaine fueled downs apparently. So

1002
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: this was the life of Abner King and Abner.

1003
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: Horse drawn Lamborghini exactly, horse drown Lamba. And then they

1004
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: fly around and horse drawn helicopters exactly.

1005
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: Oh, mar strong helicopter be amazing pegasusts though like horses.

1006
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: So well, they a Lisa Frank fever dream.

1007
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: It's like a Lisa Simpson fever dream. So well, they

1008
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: did go off and enjoy their rum springer. These boys,

1009
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Abner King and Abner not King. They worked in construction.

1010
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: They got jobs, and they got gigs as roofers, and

1011
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: I might tell you that's a rough industry. That's the

1012
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: kind of place where you meet people who, uh who.

1013
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: Are roofers, travelers, Irish traveler, a lot of that.

1014
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: A lot of travelers. Yeah. So their co workers were

1015
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: bikers from the Pagans. Yeah, yeah, right, totally. Yeah.

1016
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: And they offered him power aid and that was it.

1017
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, was the end of it. That's all it took.

1018
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: They got to talking at lunch, they got friendly. But

1019
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: the afternoon they were like, when can we get a

1020
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: couple of kilos of cocaine? So it wasn't that fast.

1021
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: It took a little time.

1022
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: They had they now they want coke.

1023
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: Now they're in the back of the van, going you

1024
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: got any more of that? Blue man? Come on, come

1025
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: on man, you got any more of that? So gross,

1026
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: I didn't need it, like we're turning favors.

1027
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: For the coast. That's not what I'm saying. Just doing coke, oh,

1028
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 3: just in general, in the back of a van. Gross

1029
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 3: sing coke in the back of a van with outlaw bikers. Gross,

1030
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: double gross, doing coke in the back of a van

1031
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: with outlaw bikers who've been out in the sun all

1032
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: day working.

1033
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 2: With some Amish teens with a hammer. Gross, super gross. Yeah, okay,

1034
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: now we got all your turn offs listed.

1035
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1036
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: I'll just tell you. These homage kids they decided, you know,

1037
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: they told you, can I buy some cocaine from my

1038
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: car workers and I have work construction. It's a great

1039
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: place to find cocaine. So they're like, hey, man, we're

1040
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: gonna take this up and turn this into a business

1041
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: opportunity and not just a little weekend fun. The guys

1042
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: really cool, bet we got kilos of this, you know,

1043
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: And so they're like, oh, we can make it happen.

1044
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: Can you get Can you get your buggy out to

1045
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: you know, Long Island? They're like, we'll bling it out

1046
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: to you guys, forget it. So they start working out

1047
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: distribution deals. These amige kids they go they take the

1048
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: cocaine back home. They're like, hey, Ezekiel, you want to

1049
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: try a little of the nose candy. And so eventually

1050
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: everybody word spreads from farm to farm. The kids were like,

1051
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: he got to go to the hodown this weekend, Bobby.

1052
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: So suddenly they're all just growing coca crops.

1053
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: Exactly kicked over your corn. So for the next five years.

1054
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: Abner King and Abner Nott King. They managed to pull

1055
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: this together and they sell a million dollars worth of cocaine,

1056
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: a million in the quaint Lancaster County area, just two

1057
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: guys with a dream. The context at this same time

1058
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: the president of the Chester County chapter of the Pagans.

1059
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: He was in legal trouble and he'd broken the leg

1060
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: of one man with an axe hample after the biker

1061
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: refused to follow through on an order he'd given him.

1062
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: Then he also knocked another man's teeth out after he

1063
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: didn't have the money he owed the Pagans that's their boss.

1064
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: These two amused kids were like, that's cool with us.

1065
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: Man.

1066
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: We're Abner King and Abner Knot King.

1067
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: We rolled home non pacifist.

1068
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, So they heard all about this and they're like,

1069
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: we should get into the cocaine business with him and

1070
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: do that for five years, and apparently they did. And uh,

1071
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 2: you know, so what do they do with a kilo

1072
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: of coke once they pick it up from the Pagans?

1073
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1074
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Or rather than tell you about Elizabeth, I'd like you

1075
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: to close your eyes.

1076
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 3: My eyes are closed.

1077
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: And picture it You are a barn cat. You've spent

1078
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: the day luxuriating in various sun spots in haylocks. You've

1079
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: chased some mice, you've missed some, you've caught some. Now

1080
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: after a long late evening nap, you are awakened to

1081
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: the sounds of the Oh it's Biggie Smalls, it's attract

1082
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: hypnotize pink Gate. Is my Detroit players TEMs from my

1083
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: hooligans in Brooklyn. That's right, dead right, if the head right,

1084
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: Biggie's that every night, Papa been smooth since the day's

1085
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: under rus. You're like, oh man, you're a fan of

1086
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: the hip hop. We're surprising you. Hear often from the

1087
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: young Amish who use the barns as their social clubs.

1088
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: Tonight you see that there's multiple clubs in attendance. The

1089
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: crickets are here, and the antiques in the Pilgrims Elizabeth,

1090
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 2: they're all here. That's right, that's what the Amish kids

1091
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: call their social clubs. But your cat eyes knows that

1092
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: these are just wanna be gangsters, and the cocaine is

1093
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: helping to really push that opinion down the road.

1094
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: They got a click called the crickets.

1095
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like gangs.

1096
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: They're Amish Kankans.

1097
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: You know, you guys should join the Pilgrims apple gang.

1098
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: We totally beat up the apple pickers the other day.

1099
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: So this hodown, you know, and it was the type

1100
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: of hope. What's a hodown with asben cokayin? You know?

1101
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: For those who prefer a longer lasting high. There's also

1102
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: plenty of meth at the party. Oh my god, you

1103
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: being a barn cat, you're not into that now. Also

1104
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: there's fentanyls not yet a thing, but some oxy codin

1105
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: is floating around. It's just becoming a street drug. Mostly

1106
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: those it's just cocin meth. For these Amish kids, that's

1107
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: just they don't break me off any nip, you hear it?

1108
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: Cheer go up. When Abner King and Abder not King

1109
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: roll up to the club, and by the club, I

1110
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: mean the barn, So this Amish social club. These the

1111
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: kids are. Some of them are dressed for afternoon volleyball

1112
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: because that's what they were doing just moments before. Some

1113
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 2: are dressed to dance and drink and snort rails because

1114
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: the biggie is blesting in the barn. Some came ready

1115
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: to party. Some just came from volleyball anyway. All the

1116
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: kids are here, all the ones that matter. You, the barncat,

1117
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: You're just not about this at all. Now. The most

1118
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: of the tourists who visit the Amish country would never

1119
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: imagine that as they drove by. Inside the beauty of

1120
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: these old school barns is a cocaine holdown, a dark

1121
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: but the holdown it's a bumpin' And you, the barncat,

1122
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: you are once again I said it, not having it.

1123
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: You hop down from the haylof you weave through bare legs,

1124
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: spilled beer. You find an open barn door. You escape

1125
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: into the night as the Amish young, drunken coke up

1126
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: continue to whoop and holler in the barn, and you

1127
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: wonder how many will come back from their time among

1128
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: the English. And then you find a spot of moonlight

1129
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: and PLoP back down and tell yourself it's not my concern.

1130
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, in Cali, we were chucks, not balleys.

1131
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: That's my response to the biggie.

1132
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna gonna wave away like smudge it California. So okay.

1133
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: Once the news broke in Pennsylvania, Dutch Country and the

1134
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: Amish passed the word from farm to farm and around

1135
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: the literal sewing circles. They fretted about what these outlaw

1136
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: biker coke bust would mean for them their farms. Yeah,

1137
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: the tourist dollars, their kids, reporters flock into the tourists ready.

1138
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: Farms rush up on the black Amish buggies. And then

1139
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: ever they come into town, they go hey, They push

1140
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: mics in their face and they ask them, what do

1141
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 2: you guys think about the outlaw bikers and the cocaine

1142
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: amongst your kids. Now, one guy they found he said, quote,

1143
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: my neighbor has a motorcycle. I'll try to stay friends

1144
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: with him. Hope he'll do the same.

1145
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 3: I'm so forgiving. And yeah, meanwhile, they've got like jars

1146
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 3: of apple butter filled with coke.

1147
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like a half a kilo squeezed in there. Anyway,

1148
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: the lawyer for the Pagans, Yeah, they decided to point

1149
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 2: out that her clients were not that much different than

1150
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: these seemingly good farm boys. Quote, they're making the Amish

1151
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: out to be pristine, untarnished young men corrupted by the

1152
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: evil Pagans. The truth be know, these kids are the

1153
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: same as any other kids who's surrendered to the temptations

1154
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: of youth. They weren't corrupted at best, they were willing participants.

1155
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: Huh.

1156
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: Then came the judge. So when the trial rolled around,

1157
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: with all the commencer of publicity and appropriate media attention,

1158
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: the Amish community rocked up to their black buggies, their

1159
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: Sunday best going to meeting clothes. They had the luxurious beards,

1160
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, the freshly brushed down. They had the black vests,

1161
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: spotless trousers, women lace bonnets, trying to look clean because

1162
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: you know that you want to like present well for court.

1163
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: They decided to present well as a community. So they

1164
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: got their best like you know, plane face going and

1165
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: then walked in and said, your honor, these boys mean well. Well,

1166
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: the boys did not do as well in their presentation,

1167
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: so Abner King and Abner not King were brought into

1168
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: the courtroom by FBI agents. They also wore black trousers,

1169
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: black vests, button down white vests. Sorry shirts the drug

1170
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: dealing young men, not the FBI, that is the FBI.

1171
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: They just wore unimaginative gray suits. Anyway, So these guys

1172
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: were bulky. They're sitting there, they're wearing like bright blue

1173
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: shirts with their suspenders. They're trying to like the one

1174
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: guy's got like nine two and oh Dylan Sideburns. This

1175
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 2: is nineteen ninety eight, so like they don't have TV,

1176
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: so they don't know. They've just seen it. I guess

1177
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: in the mall want though. Anyway, so we don't know

1178
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: what the courtroom scene look like because the save for

1179
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: journalist descriptions, the courtroom artist was removed from the courtroom

1180
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: that day because it goes against the religious traditions to

1181
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: draw them. They don't believe it you can have their

1182
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: likeness reproduced, so they were kind about that thing. So anyway, Yeah,

1183
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: so the court case it proceeded as expected. Family's friends

1184
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: were there in court, and then of course they get

1185
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: here given can you guess how long they were found guilty?

1186
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: Can you guess how long they went for being cocaine

1187
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: distributors for one million dollars worth of coke for five years? Long?

1188
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: How long did the boys go away?

1189
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 4: Nine?

1190
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: One year?

1191
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: Oh wow?

1192
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: One year for cocaine cowboy Lancaster County. So since then

1193
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: things have been far calmer and they've been able to

1194
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: keep the rump spring of down, So bully to them.

1195
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 2: But if you see that black buggy or rocking, don't

1196
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: be surprised if they got the yao and the knocking.

1197
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's all I got for you. Lose amazing.

1198
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Speaker 2: There you go. Do you got a ridiculous takeaway for it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Humans are humans and they're gonna crime no matter

1200
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: how you raised. I mean, there's a portion of the

1201
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: population that's always gonna do bad things, make bad choices.

1202
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Never a book by its cover, or a man

1203
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: by his beard or.

1204
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: By his apple butter exactly.

1205
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: He turned that butter himself. Don't mean you don't like

1206
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,120
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