1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: You love sandwiches. Huh, let's go to eighty. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 3: It was bo. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Wow that prime time. Maybe I had a crush on 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: Betty Rubbell. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: the game you're listening to to Gotsen Company. I love 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: this man. 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: He's one of the best broadcasters we have. He is 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: the voice of the Final Four. And look what happened 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: to Iron Eagle the rare Sweet sixteen before the Final Four. 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: His lab he has this is the greatest regional I've 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: ever seen. I and this is insane what you're about 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: to call. 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does feel like that Stu Gotch And obviously 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: you've been following this thing forever. I've been doing the 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: tournament for twenty nine years. We've had great regionals. Certainly, 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: we've had tremendous storylines, we've had incredible games, But prior 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 4: to this one, I don't know if I've ever felt 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: the build up quite like this. This easily could have 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 4: been the Final four and nobody would have even bad 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: in an eyelash, right, So it's a pretty clear indicator 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 4: that there are behemoths at play here. 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: Yes, that's a great point. 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: Just about any year if this was the final four, 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: everyone would be thrilled with this being the final four, right, 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: it's crazy. 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 33 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 4: I think the Saint John's part of it is the 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: one that it's been a while. But for those of 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: a certain age, there is a romanticism regarding this because 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: of depending up on where you grew up, depending upon 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 4: who you were a fan of, depending upon if you 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: were just a big Hea East basketball head, and it's 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: ingrained in you that you have good thoughts when you 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: think of Saint John's. 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 5: It's been a long time. 42 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: It's been twenty seven years for for this program to 43 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: be on this stage, but it just feels right with 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: Rick Patino at the Helm that this is the time 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: for it to happen. 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: Did the committee do Saint John's wrong? 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: And what I mean by that. 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: Is just to get to the final four, Patino, we'll 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: have beaten Bill Sealth and Kansas. 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: We'll have to beat Duke and then. 51 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: If he gets past Duke, we'll have to face the 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: winner of Michigan State and Yukon. 53 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make the case certainly that they were 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: better than what they're seating was. I don't know if 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: there were opinions already made and formed before the Big 56 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: East Tournament, where they just plowed through. They did not 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: trail at all in the Big East Tournament. They were 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: clearly better than every other team at this point in 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: time in the Big East. Now we might end up 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: seeing Saint John's Yukon again and they'll be able to 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: settle it on the court. But I thought there were 62 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: going to be a four seed. I did in the 63 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: Grand scheme. It's not even just the seed you are, 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 4: it's where you're placed. And the East Region is completely stacked, 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: and we knew that prior, and we still feel the 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: same way even after two rounds. 67 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: I and do you like today's college basketball? 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: I like what the byproduct has been for the NCAA Tournament. 69 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: I believe that we're getting high level games. I believe 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: we're getting incredibly competitive action. And while I know that 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: we don't have the traditional Cinderella that we always dreamed of, 72 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: we have maybe some ancillary Cinderella that Nebraska and Iowa, 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: two teams that nobody leading up to the season would 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: have predicted would be a part of this thing based. 75 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: On where they were. 76 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: Nebraska's never won an NCAA tournament game before this year, 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: and Iowa had a guy that was coaching Division two 78 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: as recently as two years ago and has had this 79 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: meteoric rise, Ben McCollum, as a head coach in a 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: major conference. So I think you get a little taste 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: of it. But it's not the George Mason. It's not 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: the Loyola Chicago, it's not the VCU, it's not Florida Atlantic. 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: But I do think the games have been better, and 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: I felt that last year that the final four we 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: got last year four number one seeds, which is not 86 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: common as we know, and tremendous games. Those games were 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: drag them out, fight to the finished games, all three 88 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: of them. 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: I thought Duke and. 90 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: Houston was a serious battle. I thought Florida Auburn was fantastic, 91 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: and then the national championship game came down to one 92 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 4: final possession where Houston doesn't even get a shot off, which. 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 5: Is odd in and of itself. 94 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: I remember a national championship game down to one possession 95 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: where the team doesn't even get a field goal attempt off. 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: So I just think that maybe we have. 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: To retrain our brain a little bit and for now 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: this is the new normal. 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: It's hard. 100 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: And I asked that question because we live in a 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: world where Indiana dominates college football and Nebraska maybe the 102 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: team that dominates college basketball. 103 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: It's crazy. That seems very backward. Ass I would agree 104 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: that is. 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: I can't get used to it. I know you're telling 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: me to my brain, but I don't want to. 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, not something in my lifetime I thought that we 108 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: would be talking about. But it does go to show 109 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: you two things to me more than anything else. Obviously, 110 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: money talks, we knew that. That's never been a debate. 111 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 4: But your leadership and the type of culture that you 112 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: set forth. What we've seen with Nebraska and Fred Hoiberg, 113 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: it's taken form, it's taken hold. He had this visual 114 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: and it's been building. It's been building. Remember two years 115 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: ago they went on a run in the Big Ten Tournament. 116 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: They opened some eyes around the country that maybe they 117 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: could be a factor, and then took a step back 118 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: last year. Well, they're back with a vengeance, and it 119 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: just shows that a a really solid leader and building 120 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: a team and a culture can work. Kurtzittingett, he enough said, 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy came in with confidence. He's not 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: the first to have bravado, but he's among the first 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: to really back it up in short order. 124 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: And of the three one seeds left Michigan, Arizona and Duke, 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: it feels like Duke, what crazy enough, is the one 126 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: being overlooked the most. What does Patrick Gumba due to 127 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: Duke's ceiling now that he's. 128 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: Back, I thought he changed everything from round one to 129 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: round two, all of the confidence that Sienna built in 130 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: the first round, getting towards the ram, not feeling like 131 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: there was a real hurdle for them. On the defensive end, 132 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: Duke is known as a great defensive team. I didn't 133 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 4: feel that in the first half against Siena. That team 134 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: just gained confidence, and I thought a lot of it 135 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: was based on the fact that you didn't have the 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: presence of Gungba, a true shot blocker and a true 137 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: to throw them off their game. Second half, Duke, obviously 138 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: they found something and they regained their confidence. They looked 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: shell shocked. I mean, I'm telling you from the court 140 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: side of you looking into their eyes. In that first half, 141 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: it was truly a moment where I thought, personally, as 142 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: we had halftime, they could get clipped. They just didn't 143 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: have the look of a number one overall seed, of 144 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: a champion. And then they rally in the second half. 145 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: Second round, completely different story. Gungbo was a plus twenty 146 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: in thirteen minutes of action. That's the kind of impact 147 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: that he had. I thought what I noticed was TCU 148 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: all of those shots that were going down in the 149 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: first round against Ohio State, what Punch was doing around 150 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: the rim, He couldn't do any of it, any of it. 151 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: So I just think he's a huge factor. The Foster injury, though, 152 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: in a game like this and Saint John's could be 153 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: very serious because I just think Saint John's is going 154 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: to They're gonna sick the dogs on them. They're gonna 155 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: pick up full court, they're gonna harass them, They're gonna 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: challenge Duke to just get the ball across the line 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: to get into their offense. And I know this is 158 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: hard to say, but I think they might actually need 159 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: more right now from Cameron Boozer than they got in 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: the first two rounds, which was a lot, but in 161 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: this game in particular, he's gonna have to handle the 162 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: ball quite a bit. That's an additional responsibility that I'm 163 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: not sure they expected at this stage of the tournament. 164 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: It's fairly amazing that Rick Patino, at least for me, 165 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: growing up one of the most polarizing figures anywhere in sports, 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: and now he's beloved every team. 167 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Every Taylor loves them. 168 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: Every team would want to be their head coach. It's 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: crazy what happened there the rules changed. 170 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, you know what, I think. 171 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: Obviously, different people handle things at different stages of their 172 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: life in different ways. I just think there's a real 173 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: joy that's coming through how he's conducting himself. And that's 174 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: not to say he didn't enjoy winning prior, but he 175 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: did it with a more serious tone. His press conferences 176 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 4: were often pretty direct, and now you're seeing the human 177 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: being behind the coach. 178 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: And that could be. 179 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: Aged, that could be experienced, that could be just based 180 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 4: on where he is in his life and this particular team. 181 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: But I've just noticed his comportment is different. He's enjoying 182 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: the hell out of this. 183 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 5: Yes, that goes a long way. 184 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. 185 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: As someone who graduated from Syracuse University. And we'll get 186 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: to that in just a second, because we did some 187 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: blind rankings with Danny. 188 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Parkins and we'll give you the results here. 189 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: I just admitted, But are you a fan of the 190 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: hire of Jerry McNamara as your new head coach? 191 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 192 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: I thought Syracuse was going to deputize me at halftime 193 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 4: of that Sienna Duke game and just say, hey, just 194 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: go up to Jerry and tell them the gig is 195 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: his on behalf of Orange Nation. Just represent all of 196 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: us and get the deal done. Actually I have to urinate. 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: Can I do that first, because that's what I do 198 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: at halftime? No, I think it's a home run higher. 199 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: It's what they need right now. Look, they also need 200 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 4: the resources and the support. And as we know currently 201 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: in college basketball, it's a money game. But it's not 202 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: just how much money you have. As we've seen there 203 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: are a lot of programs that had big year spending 204 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: and didn't have the success that they were hoping for. 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: It is chemistry. It is connectivity with your guys. And 206 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: I do think he provides a very strong voice for 207 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: anyone that's never talked to Jerry McNamara or spend any 208 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: time with him. 209 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: He's got a lot of confidence at. 210 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 4: Confidence as a player, he's got confidence as a coach. 211 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: I think he believes in how he messages, and at 212 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: this juncture, this fan base needed something like this to 213 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: get behind. Would they have been fine with someone outside 214 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: the family. I think they probably would have if it 215 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: meant winning. But I think this is an added bonus 216 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: that he is a true blue Syracuse guy with a 217 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 4: national championship and a highlight reel as a player that 218 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: you can put on a loop, and he's already shown 219 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: that he's got the makings of an outstanding head coach. 220 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Carolina got rid of you, Bert Davis? 221 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 5: I was. I was. 222 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: Obviously we did that game in Greenville, and to myself, man, 223 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: how different would this look with Caleb Wilson in the lineup? 224 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: One of the best players in the country, probably a 225 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 4: top three pick, may even be the number one pick, 226 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: depending upon who's making that selection. I think if you 227 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: take the best player off of every roster in college basketball, 228 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: it's obviously very challenging to win and win consistently. If 229 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: they win that game. I always find this interesting in 230 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: the sliding doors world. 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: That we live in. 232 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: If they win that game, if they don't go to OT, 233 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: if they handle their business and hold off VCU and 234 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: then lose in the second round in a tight one 235 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: against Illinois, is there a change or no? 236 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: Probably not. 237 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: I will tell you this. 238 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: If he gets to the sweet sixteen with Caleb Wilson, 239 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: there is no change at all. 240 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: He's no no doubt, no doubt in my mind. 241 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: If they advance through this tournament with Caleb Wilson, Now 242 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: that's not a guarantee. Illinois tough, They're big, their physical 243 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: To me, they had one of the best opening weekends 244 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 4: of this tournament. How they looked it's based on a 245 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: number of factors. Their first round matchup was with Penn, 246 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: they just over matched them. And then the second round 247 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: they got this team that was an upstart squad that 248 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: didn't see themselves as a cinderella, but certainly pulled off 249 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: something in that first round, a nineteen point. 250 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 5: Comeback against UNC. 251 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: I think that there was something simmering clearly at UNC 252 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 4: previously that just percolated to the point where they couldn't 253 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: dismiss it, and they ended up dismissing Hubert in the process. 254 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 4: It's always weird when a player who was great at 255 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: a school ends up becoming a head coach of that 256 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: school and then has to move on, And now what's 257 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: the relationship Patrick Ewing Georgetown and Chris Mullen Saint John's. 258 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: They're a bunch of these examples where Red Autry Syracuse. 259 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 4: You don't know now what that dynamic is going to 260 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: be for the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. Does 261 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: Hubert ever walk on that campus again, or does he 262 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: get over at some point and have success somewhere else 263 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: and just say say, all right, this happened for a reason. 264 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: It's tricky because you know, they wanted to celebrate Youbert 265 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: Davis's career, and Hubert's like, no, I'm not done coaching. 266 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: I still want to be the coach at North Carolina. 267 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: Ye you, I don't want to celebrate my career. So 268 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if he walks back on the campus again, 269 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting. But it's also another sign of 270 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: how much the times have changed, where you have potentially 271 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: the Kansas job opening up, the Carolina job is open, 272 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: and Syracuse just filled their job. 273 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: Like those three jobs used to never come open. Eye 274 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: and it's crazy. Yeah, it really is. 275 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, they had lifers. Those were lifers at 276 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: those Jim Beyheim was there forever as we know, prior 277 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: to that with Kansas, Roy Williams had the long stint, 278 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: followed by Bill's and then UNC had to tap dance 279 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: a little bit in the post Dean Smith era with 280 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: Guthridge and with Dougherty, Roy Williams obviously in there as well. 281 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: I just I think things are changing in the college 282 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: basketball landscape. And you know, it's funny, Stu Gott's when 283 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: you broke into the industry, sports radio was playing such 284 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: a role in a lot of these decisions because it 285 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: was the first time that decision makers could put an 286 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: outlet on and literally hear from their fan base. It 287 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: was just a small portion of their fan base, but 288 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: you get in a car and you turn on sports radio, 289 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: you would hear a talk show host in New York, 290 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 4: of course Mike and the Mad Dog, but callers checking 291 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: in and giving their opinion, and I do think it 292 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: affected decision maker's opinions on certain things. Now, let's just 293 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: move on to modern day. With Twitter, with individual podcasts, 294 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: with Reddit, with message boards, you now have outlets that 295 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: you could go to as an AD or as a 296 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: GM and you can get a sense of where the 297 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: wind is blowing. Again, fair, unfair, that's a whole different argument. 298 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: But it's real and it's happening. 299 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: Mike and demand dog got Piazza to the Mets. 300 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: Didn't they believe that? 301 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's so funny. It's like one of 302 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: those where were you moments? And we do this all 303 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: of us as sports fans. I think sometimes people that 304 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: aren't sports fans don't understand how someone could have ridiculous 305 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: recall of dates and moments and what was happening in 306 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: their life at the time. I think as sports fans, 307 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: we tend to naturally catalog moments in our brain of 308 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: what you were doing, what was happening, how to affect 309 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: other aspects of your life. So the Mike Piazza thing, 310 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 4: I was on vacation with my family at Disney and 311 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 4: walking around Disney like dealing with the lines, the heat. 312 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: You know, I could only do this in the summer 313 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: because of my schedule, so I only took my kids 314 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: to Disney when it was one hundred and seven degrees right. 315 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 5: This was to a complete and utter tour. 316 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 4: We did it four times, and on the fourth one, 317 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: my wife and I looked at each other and we said, 318 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: never again. 319 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 5: We were defeated as human beings. 320 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 4: So that particular day, my son was a Mets fan 321 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: and I was young, and I remember getting the news 322 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: at Disney and he was sweating his balls off as 323 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: a little kid wearing a tank top or an NBA jersey, 324 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: and I. 325 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 6: Said, the Mets got Mike Piazzi's no way it affected 326 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 6: his life. I guarantee you, if you asked Noah right now, 327 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 6: where were you when the Mets got Mike Piazza, you 328 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 6: remember it, and You're right. Mike, Mike and the Mad 329 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 6: Dog very much went with the narrative that they made 330 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 6: it happen. 331 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 5: And maybe they did. 332 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, listen, I remember where I was when 333 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: Laterner hit. 334 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: The shot against Piazza. 335 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 5: Completely. 336 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Get Noah on the show please, because I want to 337 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: have where it was when this happens. I'm glad you 338 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: brought him up because I'm wondering, can you explain the 339 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: difference for you emotionally you calling a game as opposed 340 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: to listening to your son call the game, because I'm 341 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 2: guessing it feels better listening to your son do it. 342 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're you're right. 343 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: You know. 344 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 4: It's funny when I have people come up to me 345 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: and and they're saying something really nice and I take 346 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: it as such, but they say, hey, I heard your son. 347 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 5: And man, he he might end up being better than you. 348 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 4: So it's like this weird back ahead to compliment, but 349 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 4: it's a full on compliment. 350 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 5: I want him to be better. Of course, we want 351 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 5: our children to do better than us. So yeah, a 352 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 5: lot of pride. 353 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: And you know, my wife and I there are moments 354 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: watching a game where we one one hundred percent look at. 355 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 5: One another and just think, how did this happen? 356 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: This little kid that now has the ability to go 357 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 4: on the air and show no signs of nervousness or 358 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: anxiety and just do his thing and do it with 359 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: a sense of passion and a sense of purpose. So 360 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: it's been this whole other chapter that has been unexpected completely. 361 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: But I do feel for my wife, who really was 362 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: not a huge sports fan before all of this started. 363 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: She went through thirty years of having to watch my games. 364 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 4: I didn't make her, but you know she did, just to. 365 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 5: Feel a part of it. 366 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: This whole other avenue in which she has to watch 367 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: games or listen to games involving my son. I think 368 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 4: she consumes more NBA than any person in her friend group. 369 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: Why don't we just leave it at that. 370 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: I could safely tell you twenty years doing the show 371 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: with LeBatard, my wife never listened. 372 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: She didn't want to. 373 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, she's probably better. I'm gonna be honest with you. 374 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 5: The Stutts in her is not strong. 375 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not. So it's interesting. 376 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: So you take a great deal, probably because yes, it's 377 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: great watching. You want your kids to be a better 378 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: version of yourself. Do you find it hard not to 379 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: give him pointers from time to time? 380 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: And does he you do? Does he receive them? Well? 381 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 5: No, no, I don't find it hard at all. 382 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: My my pointers are usually mixed in with something else. 383 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: It's never a text after a game. Hey, here's eleven 384 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: things that I really think you need to I'm not 385 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 4: a douchebag, first and foremost, and then second, I just 386 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 4: don't parent that way. I never parented that way. It's 387 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: usually in the form of some other conversation. And if 388 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: something strikes me in the moment that I think could 389 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 4: help him, I absolutely will share with him. But I 390 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: also have to let him do his own thing and 391 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 4: do it his way. But I think he would tell 392 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 4: you that our relationship has obviously had this new spin 393 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: to it because we do the same job. But at 394 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 4: the core, it's still what it always was, and the 395 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 4: broadcasting part has just been an add on. It's not 396 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: replaced something else. 397 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: Has he gained enough confidence here where perhaps from time 398 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: to time he'll reach out to Dad and give Dad 399 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: some pointers. 400 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 5: No, that would not be well accepted by any stretch. 401 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 4: No, Now you've got to know your yes. 402 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: Even at this age, I. 403 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 5: Can ground him. 404 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: That's that's not a problem. I still have authority. That's 405 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: not an issue. No, if he ever noticed something, I 406 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: would want him to tell me. So it is a 407 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: two way street and that's how it should be. 408 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: Is Bill Raftery because for me he is I don't 409 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: want to say he's underrated. 410 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: He just kind of flies under the radar just a 411 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: little bit. 412 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: But I feel like he's the best sports analyst we 413 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: have going You agree. 414 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 5: I think he might be the best of all time. Truly. 415 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: He's so good in. 416 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: Terms of the mix that you're looking for as a viewer. 417 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: Of course, you want analysis, you want to hear someone's 418 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: knowledge and preparation, and I think Bill probably hasn't gotten 419 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: enough credit for that part of it. His prowess as 420 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: an analyst is legit. He coached in the Big East, 421 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 4: he was a headman for Senall. He's been around basketball 422 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 4: his whole life. He was a highly accomplished player, which 423 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: he downplays, but he was. At one point he was 424 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: the all time leading scorer in the state of New 425 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 4: Jersey as a high school player for many years. It 426 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: only recently went down went to LaSalle, was a tremendous 427 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 4: player at LaSalle, and only because at the time the 428 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: NBA didn't have a lot of teams. He ended up 429 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 4: getting cut by the New York Knicks. But in any 430 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 4: kind of expanded format, he's an NBA player and would 431 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: have played in the league. So that changes your persona 432 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: a bit. I think he leaned into the other side, 433 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: which was very comfortable for him self, deprecation and using 434 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 4: that to his advantage, because sometimes people will underestimate you 435 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 4: when you approach life that way. The part that sets 436 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 4: him to a category by himself is his feel for 437 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: the moment and when it's time to really punch with 438 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: something that is memorable. And grabs your attention and fits the. 439 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Event, Yes, the moment. 440 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: He knows how to caption, and I can tell you 441 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: I've worked with him. You know, we're talking about the 442 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: better part of thirty years, which is hard for me 443 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: to wrap my brain around. It really is off the cuff. 444 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 4: This is not a guy that's got a yellow legal 445 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: pad with a bunch of sayings on it. He just 446 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: can intuitively hit the right moment with the right words. 447 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: And it's incredibly memorable, and it's also it's highly it's 448 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: highly relatable. It really feels like someone you would be 449 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: sitting on the couch with watching the game, right that 450 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: would that would say that and would crack you up. 451 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: And for you calling the game, it has to be 452 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: such a comfort to know he's always got it. 453 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: Whatever you need, he always has it for you know 454 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: he does. 455 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 5: He does. 456 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: And I've I've said this before, but it's worth reiterating. 457 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: Amidst all of these things that I've been incredibly fortunate 458 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 4: to be a part of in my broadcasting career, the 459 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: one thing that I know, if not for this, none 460 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 4: of it would would have happened, and that was getting 461 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: paired with him in nineteen ninety five on New Jersey 462 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 4: Nets broadcast, because just being around him taught me things 463 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: that I never would have known in how to do 464 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: the job, how to approach the job, how to blur 465 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: the line between your personality and the persona that you're 466 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: putting on the air, how to do it with a 467 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 4: sense of fun and levity, but also the preparedness and 468 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 4: not taking any broadcast for granted. 469 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 5: We did some. 470 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 4: Bad NETS teams, yes, really bad Nets teams, yes. And 471 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 4: I can tell you, even though we may have not 472 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: had many viewers, Bill and I still treated it like 473 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 4: it was going across the globe, right. 474 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: We always felt like it mattered. 475 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 4: And I think that was something that was one hundred 476 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: percent planted in my head because of him and because 477 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 4: of his approach. 478 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: We'll get you out here in just a second, and 479 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: we appreciate you doing this. I did want to thank you. 480 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: I've been meaning to thank you for some time now. 481 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: I've been railing against this forever. When you come back 482 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: into a game, like a game in Miami, for example, 483 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: they come back the game's being played in Miami Gardens, 484 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: yet they pan in through the Cleveland. They're on South Beach, 485 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: which is forty five minutes away from really playing the 486 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 2: actual game. 487 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: And I was watching you. I think it was a 488 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: Jack Gabe, Yes it was. 489 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: Yes, it took us through the shithole that is New 490 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: Jersey because you too are upset. Hey don't put us 491 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: in New York City. We're in New Jersey and you 492 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: took us through New Jersey and I wanted to thank 493 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: you for doing that. 494 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 5: I am yeah, No, that means a lots to guts. 495 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 4: That that one I think resonated. I think there's a 496 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 4: certain kind of audience that that thing. So who cares whatever, 497 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: show me anything. I want to see the game. 498 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 5: But then there's another faction and I. 499 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 4: Would be included in that thank you where I am 500 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: not happy. If you're showing something from a different area 501 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: but claiming it's within that area, you're misleading me. 502 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: How can I trust you? Your credibility is shot. 503 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: We had a thing and I'll do this sometimes in 504 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: a passive aggressive way with our crew. We have a 505 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 4: tremendous crew and everybody that works on the show I 506 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: truly have the ultimate respect for in every single role. 507 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 4: They care, it matters, they take it seriously, but they 508 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: do it with a smile and the right attitude. But 509 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: we were in Chicago doing the Big Ten Championship and the. 510 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: Final on Sunday. The weather was brutal, brutal. 511 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 4: It was heavy rain, wind, there was the chance of snow, 512 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: and we're coming back from break and they're gonna show 513 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: me the shot that they're using that I'll do the 514 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: next set of billboards over right. And I said to them, 515 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 4: I go, is that a live shot? They go, no, no, no, no, 516 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: I go, it's really nice out right now. Is that 517 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 4: what you're telling me. They're like, no, it isn't. We'll 518 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 4: get you another shot. Like, don't mislead the public. 519 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, don't show me a picture from Chicago eight 520 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 5: years ago to try to sell it as this is 521 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 5: what's happening right now and yes in the Windy City. 522 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 5: I don't buy it. You're not alone. 523 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: McDonald's with us, by the way, because when he was 524 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: doing the hockey and it was in Sunrise, Florida, they 525 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: would pan hit through South Beach and Fort Lauderdale Beach 526 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: and Sean's like, hey, we're out by a mall. 527 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah. Have you ever been to Jacksonville? You 528 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 5: guys ever been to Jacksonville? 529 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: Of course yes. 530 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: So when I got the NFL on CBS job in 531 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight. I had never been to Jacksonville before. 532 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 4: So I go to Jacksonville and I'm curious. I, well, 533 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: you know, where do you hang? 534 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: Like? 535 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: Oh, I got to go to the Landing? Really? 536 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 537 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: So you go to the landing and it's basically a 538 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: circle cement with some restaurants and some shops and that's it. 539 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 5: It's nothing beyond that. Now it's on the water, so 540 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: that part was. 541 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: Nice, right, it's a place to drink, place to drink. 542 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: Basically. 543 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: I think there was like a fake Hooters there. So 544 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 4: at some point about I don't know, four years ago, 545 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: they got rid of the landing. It just went away. Yes, 546 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 4: the shops went away, the restaurants went away. I don't 547 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 4: know what they're doing at the landing, but it doesn't exist, right, 548 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: And I'm watching a game two years ago and they 549 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 4: have a shot of the landing in Jacksonville. Dude, it 550 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: doesn't fucking exist. 551 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 5: It's closed. What are we doing? 552 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not alone. Thanks, good, All right, we'll 553 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: get you out of here. Danny Parkins was on with 554 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: us yesterday. We did blind rankings of Syracuse alone, What 555 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: do we do? Mikey keep three cut five, keep three 556 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: cut five of Syracuse broadcasters all time. 557 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: So well, Mikey's just gonna recap it for you. 558 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to hear it. 559 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, So they cut, and I say they because 560 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 7: I was just here. 561 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: He was the game show host. 562 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, they cut Sean McDonough, They cut Scott Hansen, 563 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 7: they cut Marv Albert, they cut Bob Costas, and they 564 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 7: cut Iron Eagle. 565 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: I did it, Danny did and Taylor. That's it. I 566 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: did not. 567 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 7: They kept Turrico, they kept Nick right, and they kept 568 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 7: Jeff passing. 569 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: Right now, I didn't keep Nick right, Okay, Danny and Taylor. 570 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: Dan, I still I still got love for Danny. 571 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 5: I understand bread is buttered. I get that. 572 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a tough spot because you're liking these things, 573 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: not knowing what the next name is. 574 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: Going to be. 575 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 5: Why justice is going to be pissed. 576 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's what Danny was worried about. Yeah, yes, but 577 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: we did it Danny on purpose. 578 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: So you know he's Danny, You're out of the family. 579 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 7: He was worried that Matthew Berry was going to be 580 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 7: the last name. 581 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: So you guys that's why. 582 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: That's why he'll put a hit out on him. That'll 583 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 5: be the end of it. 584 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: But can you believe Taylor keeping you off that list? Huh? 585 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 7: I mean. 586 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 587 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: I was the deciding vote, and I felt I felt 588 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: bad instantly. 589 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: Yep, because you knew I was coming up the next 590 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: day later later. 591 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 5: This is hours ago. 592 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: I got blinded trying to hold out for Craig Carton. Yes, 593 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: and I was hoping Carton would never be mentioned. 594 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 5: Tremendous. 595 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: So good you got a deep roster there at Syracuse. 596 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: My man, it is not bad, so much better than 597 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: Northwestern's right where my daughter goes. 598 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: Yes, I yeah, I saw that on social media. Congratulations. 599 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in Chapel Hill right now. I want to 600 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: say boots on the ground for the for the youuber 601 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: Davis story, but I be lying. I'm here for Northwestern 602 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: North Carolina game. I look forward to the games this weekend. 603 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: I look forward to your call of the games along 604 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: with Bill and Grant. You guys are fantastic. Thanks, thank 605 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: you so much for doing this. Man, you are great, 606 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: my pleasure. Great to be on with you guys. All right, 607 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: I'm booking you next week for the just before the 608 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: Final four because I have to reach out to you 609 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: right before you call your biggest sporting events. 610 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 5: Yes, I would have done it until the blind rankings. 611 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: And then I kept you in. 612 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 5: That ended it