WEBVTT - Episode 7: The Honeymoon is Over 0:00:15.316 --> 0:00:27.116 Pushkin, previously on deep cover. By the late spring of 0:00:27.196 --> 0:00:30.836 nineteen eighty five, Ned Timmins was deep into his investigation 0:00:30.916 --> 0:00:34.276 of the drug smugglers. One of the three major players, 0:00:34.396 --> 0:00:38.276 the Gentleman Smuggler, was now behind bars, but Ned was 0:00:38.316 --> 0:00:41.756 still on a mission to get Mike Vogel, the grocery guy. 0:00:42.276 --> 0:00:44.396 I had it in such a way, did I really 0:00:44.436 --> 0:00:50.556 control the marijuana industry in Michigan. His other target was 0:00:50.636 --> 0:00:55.116 Lee Rich mister beach club. I'm the boss, Okay. I 0:00:55.316 --> 0:00:58.276 called the shots. If they wanted to load, or if 0:00:58.276 --> 0:01:00.476 I was going to load something, I could secure the boat, 0:01:00.556 --> 0:01:04.996 playing whatever. But for now Ned couldn't do much about 0:01:05.036 --> 0:01:07.596 the case because in the fall of that year, his 0:01:07.756 --> 0:01:10.676 cover was blown and there'd been a threat on his life. 0:01:11.196 --> 0:01:14.436 So the FBI sent Ned and his wife Kathy off 0:01:14.436 --> 0:01:17.676 to northern Michigan to hide together. They had to sit 0:01:17.796 --> 0:01:22.116 quietly and wait it out. This is not any kind 0:01:22.156 --> 0:01:26.756 of a life that I want to lead. This isn't 0:01:26.796 --> 0:01:33.916 what any of us signed up for. For Kathy Timmins, 0:01:33.956 --> 0:01:37.516 going into hiding wasn't just scary. She had her own work, 0:01:37.636 --> 0:01:40.076 her own career at the FBI that she now had 0:01:40.076 --> 0:01:43.556 to put on hold. She was tired of Ned's undercover 0:01:43.676 --> 0:01:48.036 persona Ed Thomas, messing everything up. Oh. I was very angry. 0:01:48.076 --> 0:01:51.676 I was very upset. I was scared, you know. And 0:01:51.676 --> 0:01:53.836 then I just had to let it be, let it go, 0:01:54.076 --> 0:01:58.036 just be up there and sit and wait to make 0:01:58.116 --> 0:02:01.236 matters worse. She didn't feel well. I thought I was 0:02:01.276 --> 0:02:03.836 sick or something, or maybe just really really tired, because 0:02:03.836 --> 0:02:05.956 I just kept falling asleep. And then I started feeling 0:02:05.956 --> 0:02:08.516 the queasiness and everything, and I thought, oh, maybe I 0:02:08.596 --> 0:02:12.636 got pregnant. After being in hiding for about three weeks, 0:02:12.796 --> 0:02:15.876 the FBI calls and tells Nedd and Kathy the coast 0:02:15.996 --> 0:02:18.636 is clear. They had caught the bikers who had planned 0:02:18.636 --> 0:02:21.756 to kill Ned. So Ned and Cathy come out of hiding. 0:02:22.036 --> 0:02:25.396 They go home. Kathy, who's still not feeling well, visits 0:02:25.436 --> 0:02:30.036 the doctor and learns she is pregnant. In a way, 0:02:30.196 --> 0:02:33.556 the timing wasn't ideal. Their lives had just been turned 0:02:33.676 --> 0:02:37.436 upside down, and yet Kathy took this as a sign 0:02:38.476 --> 0:02:40.596 like God meant it to be, because we had been 0:02:40.636 --> 0:02:43.676 married for how many years by then, and I had 0:02:43.676 --> 0:02:46.636 never gotten pregnant, and I never did anything not to 0:02:46.676 --> 0:02:49.076 get pregnant. So I just thought, oh, okay. You know 0:02:49.356 --> 0:02:52.516 I'm Catholic. You know, it's like, okay, this is meant 0:02:52.516 --> 0:02:56.436 to be. Now. All she had to do was tell Ned. 0:02:57.356 --> 0:03:02.796 I thought that he would be thrilled and that this 0:03:02.876 --> 0:03:06.116 would really help to bring a closure to all of 0:03:06.156 --> 0:03:10.556 this craziness with this undercover work. I asked, Ned, what 0:03:10.636 --> 0:03:13.316 were your thoughts about having kids? Given the nature of 0:03:13.356 --> 0:03:18.476 your work, it wasn't time. Did you think you ever 0:03:18.516 --> 0:03:20.996 wanted to have kids? You know, I really didn't give 0:03:20.996 --> 0:03:24.516 it much thought, you know, I was just consumed by 0:03:24.596 --> 0:03:28.476 work and what we were doing. So when you get 0:03:28.476 --> 0:03:31.836 back from this trip to northern Michigan and she's like, 0:03:32.156 --> 0:03:38.796 I'm pregnant, what is your reaction? Well, yeah, it's just well, 0:03:38.836 --> 0:03:48.356 I guess we're gonna roll with it. You know. I'm 0:03:48.436 --> 0:03:54.276 Jake Halper and this is Deep Cover Episode seven. The 0:03:54.396 --> 0:04:25.076 honeymoon is over. After he comes out of hiding, Ned 0:04:25.196 --> 0:04:27.956 is back working on his case against Lee rich Mister 0:04:28.116 --> 0:04:31.316 Beach Club, but for the time being, there was no 0:04:31.436 --> 0:04:34.956 easy way for Ned or the FBI to apprehend Lee. 0:04:35.716 --> 0:04:39.716 Extraditions from the Caymans were rare, plus, Ned says down 0:04:39.716 --> 0:04:43.436 on the Caymans. Lee was kind of a robin Hood figure, 0:04:43.756 --> 0:04:48.596 a beloved outlaw. Lee was the robin Hood who had 0:04:48.636 --> 0:04:50.516 taken care of all the bankers and all the people 0:04:50.556 --> 0:04:55.356 on the island and buried friends and relatives and paid 0:04:55.396 --> 0:04:58.636 for everybody's expenses. He had a big heart, and he 0:04:58.716 --> 0:05:01.796 took care of a lot of people, and it would 0:05:01.836 --> 0:05:05.436 have been probably impossible to get him extradited out of there. 0:05:06.236 --> 0:05:09.396 So on the one hand, Ned was frustrated that he 0:05:09.396 --> 0:05:13.636 couldn't apprehend Lee, but he also knew that Lee was 0:05:13.876 --> 0:05:16.676 kind of trapped, and he knew this because of a 0:05:16.716 --> 0:05:19.716 conversation that they'd had when they were in the Caymans together. 0:05:20.396 --> 0:05:23.476 We had always talked alone a lot, and I just 0:05:23.836 --> 0:05:26.156 turned him one day. We're probably having a drink or something. 0:05:26.236 --> 0:05:28.836 I said, Lee, why don't you get the hell out 0:05:28.836 --> 0:05:33.836 of us? Just quit And Lee said I can't. They'll 0:05:33.916 --> 0:05:39.436 kill me. And I believe he meant the Columbians would 0:05:39.596 --> 0:05:44.876 kill him. Lee was on the hook for a million 0:05:44.916 --> 0:05:48.596 pounds of marijuana that he'd ordered from the Colombians. And that, 0:05:48.836 --> 0:05:53.156 by the way, is he shitload of marijuana. Look, this 0:05:53.196 --> 0:05:55.636 isn't an exact science, but I talked to was a 0:05:55.676 --> 0:05:59.116 smuggler who once saw this much weed down in Colombia 0:05:59.196 --> 0:06:04.356 and he described it as a quote fucking mountain end quote. 0:06:04.396 --> 0:06:07.116 He actually built a small fort up on top of 0:06:07.156 --> 0:06:12.356 it and slept there. So you get the idea. Lee 0:06:12.396 --> 0:06:15.756 was under pressure to move that much marijuana. And remember 0:06:16.116 --> 0:06:20.716 Lee's go to guy, Stephen Kaylish, the Gentleman's smuggler. He 0:06:20.836 --> 0:06:24.196 was in custody at this point, so Lee pushed ahead 0:06:24.396 --> 0:06:27.316 without his star smuggler, tried to move at least some 0:06:27.396 --> 0:06:29.956 of it. He arranged for a tug boat to to 0:06:30.036 --> 0:06:32.996 a barge with one hundred and sixty five thousand pounds 0:06:32.996 --> 0:06:36.036 of pot on it up to Virginia. The boat was 0:06:36.076 --> 0:06:39.956 intercepted by the US Coastguard and the cargo was confiscated. 0:06:40.716 --> 0:06:46.436 It was a total disaster. It's all scrapped. It was done. 0:06:46.476 --> 0:06:50.116 You know, at this point, Lee is finally feeling ready 0:06:50.156 --> 0:06:52.956 to just get out of the business. You know, I 0:06:53.076 --> 0:06:55.156 was just I was tired of it. I didn't need it, 0:06:56.076 --> 0:06:57.876 And I blame a lot of that on myself for 0:06:58.036 --> 0:07:00.636 not being strong enough to tell people I don't want 0:07:00.676 --> 0:07:04.116 to do this, I'm done. It was a moment of 0:07:04.156 --> 0:07:07.716 reckoning for Lee. Remember from the very start. Lie says 0:07:07.756 --> 0:07:10.516 he'd gotten into the marijuana business so he could chill 0:07:10.556 --> 0:07:17.196 with his buddies, non violent beach guys, you know, lived 0:07:17.236 --> 0:07:22.916 on the beach to surf and fish and never hurt anybody. Okay. 0:07:23.436 --> 0:07:26.636 Even as his business grew and he became really wealthy, 0:07:27.116 --> 0:07:30.556 this was still his credo. He had the yacht which 0:07:30.556 --> 0:07:33.356 the queen borrowed, and the beach club, but the funny 0:07:33.436 --> 0:07:36.716 parrot and the cool house that rock stars came to visit. 0:07:37.996 --> 0:07:41.276 It had been fun for a long time until suddenly, 0:07:41.476 --> 0:07:48.436 well it really wasn't anymore. And then, as if this 0:07:48.476 --> 0:07:53.356 weren't already perfectly clear, Alvin Connor came knocking. I know 0:07:53.596 --> 0:07:57.716 Lee rich. For years Alvin was the chief Inspector of 0:07:57.796 --> 0:08:01.476 narcotics for the Cayman Island Police Force back in the eighties. 0:08:02.236 --> 0:08:04.956 Were used to search all his private plea and you 0:08:05.076 --> 0:08:10.636 come in eer week two three time were all these girls? 0:08:11.436 --> 0:08:15.236 Pretty girls used to bring. Alvin says he had suspected 0:08:15.276 --> 0:08:17.756 for a while that Lee might be involved in the 0:08:17.876 --> 0:08:22.956 drug trade. Nothing solid, just chatter, which isn't surprising this 0:08:23.036 --> 0:08:27.276 was a small island. Inevitably people talked. Alvin says, he 0:08:27.356 --> 0:08:30.556 searched Lee's private plane and number of times, but never 0:08:30.596 --> 0:08:34.636 found any drugs. But then one day in January of 0:08:34.716 --> 0:08:37.836 nineteen eighty six, about six months after Ned had left 0:08:37.836 --> 0:08:40.756 the island, Alvin says he got a tip which led 0:08:40.836 --> 0:08:43.396 him to believe that Lee might have some drugs at 0:08:43.436 --> 0:08:49.516 his house. This was all that Alvin needed, just a lead, 0:08:49.756 --> 0:08:53.236 a whiff of something, because on the island, Alvin had 0:08:53.276 --> 0:08:57.276 a reputation for chasing assent. If can't you see me 0:08:57.396 --> 0:09:00.876 come in to see the dog is here? You called 0:09:00.876 --> 0:09:03.556 me the dog? Wait? Why do they call you the dog? 0:09:04.196 --> 0:09:08.756 Mar Juanna, I smell it. They say that I smell it. 0:09:08.756 --> 0:09:11.956 If day I'm gonna find it. They called me the 0:09:12.116 --> 0:09:16.596 dog to see the dog? Come, no, and the dog. 0:09:17.036 --> 0:09:19.516 He was coming for Lee. He didn't know about Ned 0:09:19.596 --> 0:09:23.396 Timmins or the FBI investigation. He just wanted to bust 0:09:23.516 --> 0:09:28.716 Lee rich. So he heads over to Lee's house. I say, 0:09:28.756 --> 0:09:32.796 we're here to look for drogs. Alvin says. He searches 0:09:32.836 --> 0:09:35.836 the room and finds about an ounce of cocaine. He 0:09:35.916 --> 0:09:41.476 arrestedly on the spot for drug possession. Lee says the 0:09:41.596 --> 0:09:45.516 whole thing was a setup. They planted a two or 0:09:45.596 --> 0:09:48.876 three grams or coke in my house and came in 0:09:48.956 --> 0:09:51.916 and raided the house. My mother's in the house, and 0:09:52.036 --> 0:09:54.476 I think I had about eight people staying in the 0:09:54.476 --> 0:09:57.876 house at that time. So it was a big scene 0:09:57.876 --> 0:10:00.676 when they took Lee away in handcuffs. The whole thing 0:10:00.716 --> 0:10:03.596 was upsetting for Lee, in part because his mom was there. 0:10:03.916 --> 0:10:08.316 She started making a fuss, and Alvin confronted her. I say, 0:10:07.996 --> 0:10:12.156 if I'll shut your mouth, I rescue you and jadge 0:10:12.236 --> 0:10:16.596 rob structing police officer saw. I rescue you and charge 0:10:16.676 --> 0:10:19.916 you and charge you for the school keen too. The 0:10:20.036 --> 0:10:23.076 message to Lee seemed to be clear, I'm not afraid 0:10:23.076 --> 0:10:25.476 of you. I'll mess with your mom if need be. 0:10:31.356 --> 0:10:34.276 Alvin took Lee down to the police station, booked him, 0:10:34.516 --> 0:10:37.396 locked him up, but soon Lee got out on bail 0:10:37.636 --> 0:10:41.676 around five thousand dollars. That's the amount that Alvin recalls anyway, 0:10:41.996 --> 0:10:46.396 which was nothing to Lee. Yeah, you were like a king, 0:10:47.276 --> 0:10:50.996 big shot, like a big shot, and nobody could touch him. 0:10:51.036 --> 0:10:53.476 He tells Lee, if the judge you won't let you 0:10:53.516 --> 0:10:55.756 go down, he based that boy, gonna do my job 0:10:56.916 --> 0:10:59.636 for Lee. The biggest fallout from all of this was 0:10:59.636 --> 0:11:02.316 that he had to give up his passport. The police 0:11:02.316 --> 0:11:05.116 claimed that he was a flight risk, so they insisted 0:11:05.156 --> 0:11:07.916 that he'd leave his passport with them at the station, 0:11:08.356 --> 0:11:10.316 so he'd have to go and ask for a back 0:11:10.436 --> 0:11:13.876 if you ever wanted to leave the island. Lee was 0:11:13.956 --> 0:11:17.716 beginning to feel trapped. Around the same time, he was 0:11:17.836 --> 0:11:20.676 hanging out at a local bar on Grand Cayman when 0:11:20.676 --> 0:11:23.116 he bumps into a guy he knows who works for 0:11:23.156 --> 0:11:27.076 Scotland Yard. Lee buys him a drink and he goes rich. 0:11:27.436 --> 0:11:30.436 He goes, I'm I'm gonna tell you something. Goes. Don't 0:11:30.436 --> 0:11:33.716 take your boat out past twelve miles, don't go out 0:11:33.756 --> 0:11:37.276 on the bank fish, and don't leave the island. They're 0:11:37.276 --> 0:11:40.636 trying to get you on a coastguard cutter or something 0:11:40.716 --> 0:11:43.236 off a Cayman, he said. And I'm just telling you 0:11:43.316 --> 0:11:46.276 that because you're a decent guy. It seemed like the 0:11:46.356 --> 0:11:50.396 walls were really closing in on Lee. Now his business partner, 0:11:50.556 --> 0:11:54.076 the gentleman smuggler, was in jail and quite possibly talking 0:11:54.076 --> 0:11:57.836 to US authorities. The dog was pursuing him on the island, 0:11:58.156 --> 0:12:01.276 and now the Scotland Yard guy was telling him don't 0:12:01.316 --> 0:12:04.196 take your boat too far off shore. So I knew 0:12:04.236 --> 0:12:07.436 then from what he told me that night, They're really 0:12:07.476 --> 0:12:11.956 onto my ass. Okay, and I started making arrangements. I 0:12:12.036 --> 0:12:15.636 was going to leave, and I was going to Europe, 0:12:16.316 --> 0:12:21.036 to Portugal. Actually, Lee's grandfather was Portuguese, and he figured 0:12:21.076 --> 0:12:23.836 if he could get there, he might use that familial 0:12:23.876 --> 0:12:26.876 connection to get his status as a resident. He thought 0:12:26.876 --> 0:12:30.356 he'd be safe there. So in May of nineteen eighty six, 0:12:30.676 --> 0:12:33.436 a full year after Ned first visited Lee in the Caymans, 0:12:33.796 --> 0:12:37.276 Lee got ready to make his escape, and then this 0:12:37.436 --> 0:12:39.676 chance would have it, Lee got a visit from a 0:12:39.756 --> 0:12:48.596 friend which derailed everything. And that friend was Tommy Lee Base, 0:12:49.276 --> 0:13:06.596 you know, from Motley Crue. Lee Rich was about to 0:13:06.636 --> 0:13:11.436 flee the Cayman Islands, but he had a scheduling conflict. 0:13:11.756 --> 0:13:15.836 A buddy was coming to town, Tommy Lee Basse, founding 0:13:15.916 --> 0:13:20.036 member of the band Motley Crue. In the mid nineteen eighties, 0:13:20.436 --> 0:13:23.636 Tommy Lee and his bandmate Nicki six were the bad 0:13:23.676 --> 0:13:26.596 boys at the heavy metal world. I remember you feel 0:13:26.676 --> 0:13:28.956 for the last time you motherfucker's liked the party? Is 0:13:28.956 --> 0:13:38.196 that true? Well, if you're a perverse fuck yeah, I 0:13:38.436 --> 0:13:41.356 fucking knew it. I just knew it. Tommy Lee and 0:13:41.396 --> 0:13:43.556 his bandmates had come to visit the Caymans a few 0:13:43.596 --> 0:13:47.436 times before. Turns out the band's manager, Doc McGee, was 0:13:47.476 --> 0:13:53.796 one of Lee's investors. They all got along famously. Tommy 0:13:53.796 --> 0:13:56.036 even wrote about the first time that he'd met Lee 0:13:56.316 --> 0:13:59.716 in Motley Crue's memoir The Dirt. Here's a clip from 0:13:59.756 --> 0:14:02.076 the audio book and just a heads up. For some reason, 0:14:02.356 --> 0:14:07.036 the narrator calls Lee Leigh. Anyway, Lay walked into the 0:14:07.116 --> 0:14:10.756 doc's rental house with a Natashak case. The first words 0:14:10.756 --> 0:14:14.116 we spoke to him were gimme, gimme, gimme, because we 0:14:14.236 --> 0:14:17.396 knew what was in that fucking attache case. Mountains of 0:14:17.436 --> 0:14:20.796 white powder to stuff up our noses. Lay opened the 0:14:20.836 --> 0:14:24.036 case and gave us a little rock. In the memoir, 0:14:24.236 --> 0:14:27.516 Lee then shuts his briefcase, locks it, winks and tells 0:14:27.516 --> 0:14:30.876 them if they can open the combination lock, Tommy can 0:14:30.996 --> 0:14:33.796 have the rest of it. We were so coked out 0:14:33.836 --> 0:14:36.396 that we actually thought we were coming up with every 0:14:36.396 --> 0:14:41.116 single permutation of three numbers. Finally, I went into the kitchen, 0:14:41.156 --> 0:14:43.236 grabbed a butcher knife and cut the top of lace 0:14:43.316 --> 0:14:47.476 thousand dollars leather briefcase, glittering inside like white gold were 0:14:47.516 --> 0:14:52.276 fucking dozens of huge plastic bags filled with coke. So 0:14:52.356 --> 0:14:55.076 there you have it. An epic drug dealer, an epic 0:14:55.156 --> 0:14:58.956 rock star who loved drugs. It was a friendship made 0:14:58.956 --> 0:15:07.236 in heaven. Tommy wasn't traveling to the Caymans alone. He 0:15:07.396 --> 0:15:09.396 was coming with the latest love of his life life, 0:15:09.716 --> 0:15:13.516 the actress Heather Locklear. She'd started in a few hit 0:15:13.556 --> 0:15:16.716 TV shows like Dynasty and t J. Hooker, where she 0:15:16.796 --> 0:15:19.836 played a rookie cop who once even goes under cover 0:15:19.916 --> 0:15:23.116 herself as a call girl. Yeah, hook where are she 0:15:23.116 --> 0:15:25.796 supposed to wear? Her water and my trick bag? An 0:15:25.796 --> 0:15:28.516 alcol girl never parts with her trick bag. Don't get 0:15:28.516 --> 0:15:30.796 any ideas about helping me on with it. It's fine, 0:15:30.876 --> 0:15:34.756 just where it is. Heather and Tommy. They'd met backstage 0:15:34.756 --> 0:15:38.996 in an Ario Speedwagon concert. Their relationship would become fodder 0:15:39.036 --> 0:15:42.156 for e Hollywood. The bad boy of rock had found 0:15:42.276 --> 0:15:45.516 his princess. Tommy was now living the life he had famed, 0:15:45.516 --> 0:15:48.116 fortune and love. The happy couple left for a three 0:15:48.156 --> 0:15:51.596 week honeymoon in the Cayman Islands. Tommy was coming to 0:15:51.716 --> 0:15:54.836 visit to spend his honeymoon on the Cayman Islands, seeing 0:15:54.876 --> 0:15:58.556 his good buddy, Lee, the guy with the magic suitcase. 0:16:00.316 --> 0:16:04.756 Listall remembers just how excited Tommy was heaves head over 0:16:04.796 --> 0:16:07.516 heels on this girl. He said, I really want to 0:16:07.556 --> 0:16:09.596 come back here and spend my honey, and I said, 0:16:09.676 --> 0:16:12.756 don't worry, I'll take care of you. You know, Lee 0:16:12.836 --> 0:16:15.876 could have told him, no, the timing's bad, man, My 0:16:15.956 --> 0:16:19.236 drug empire is falling apart. I may soon be imprisoned. 0:16:19.796 --> 0:16:23.676 But that was just not mister Beach Club's style. His 0:16:23.836 --> 0:16:26.516 buddy was coming to town, so his escape plan to 0:16:26.556 --> 0:16:29.476 Portugal would just have to wait. Lee arrange for a 0:16:29.556 --> 0:16:33.036 nice condo on the beach for Tommy and Heather, and 0:16:33.636 --> 0:16:36.036 I got a call the next day after leaving him 0:16:36.036 --> 0:16:39.476 there that night from the manager of the condo asked 0:16:39.516 --> 0:16:42.436 me to remove them from the property, both of them, 0:16:42.516 --> 0:16:44.676 because they were up all night running up and down 0:16:44.716 --> 0:16:48.996 in the parking out high on whatever. Not a huge surprise. 0:16:49.436 --> 0:16:51.716 From the Motley Crewe memoir, you get a sense for 0:16:51.756 --> 0:16:56.276 how Tommy partied. Gimme, gimme, gimme, so Lee, he moves 0:16:56.316 --> 0:17:02.516 the couple to another condo, but the situation doesn't get 0:17:02.556 --> 0:17:05.916 any better. It was one big headache for Lee. So 0:17:06.076 --> 0:17:09.436 they decide, let's go to Jamaica. It'll be better over there. 0:17:09.996 --> 0:17:13.556 Lee books them some villas, makes all the arrangements, and 0:17:13.596 --> 0:17:16.276 he decides that this trip to Jamaica will be the 0:17:16.396 --> 0:17:19.996 perfect excuse to run for it. So he goes to 0:17:19.996 --> 0:17:23.076 the Cayman Police and somehow or another manages to get 0:17:23.076 --> 0:17:26.076 his passport back. Lee says he's just flying with some 0:17:26.156 --> 0:17:29.556 friends to Jamaica for a mini vacation, but his real 0:17:29.636 --> 0:17:33.276 plan is to keep going to London and then onto Portugal. 0:17:33.716 --> 0:17:36.716 So he packs a briefcase with some pocket money thirty 0:17:36.716 --> 0:17:39.956 thousand in cash, and boards a plane with Tommy and 0:17:40.076 --> 0:17:46.156 Heather from Montego Bay, Jamaica. That night, when we flew 0:17:46.196 --> 0:17:50.236 to Mobay. When I come off the airplane, one of 0:17:50.236 --> 0:17:53.076 the girls from the counter, does she call me by 0:17:53.076 --> 0:17:57.356 my name? She goes Lee. I looked at her two 0:17:57.396 --> 0:18:01.916 agents waiting on you inside the customs area. There two 0:18:02.076 --> 0:18:06.996 agents and like that, Lee understood had to be the FEDS. 0:18:07.036 --> 0:18:10.316 Somehow they'd been tipped off. What Lee didn't know at 0:18:10.356 --> 0:18:12.956 the time was that the FBI had a source who 0:18:12.996 --> 0:18:17.076 knew about his trip and ratted him out, and now 0:18:17.236 --> 0:18:20.316 here he was on the ground at the Montego Bay Airport, 0:18:20.716 --> 0:18:25.636 walking right into a trap. Here's Tommy's got up one 0:18:25.676 --> 0:18:30.636 of these boomboxes. Okay, up on his shoulder, and he's 0:18:30.716 --> 0:18:34.436 jagging at around holler and he's dragging this Heather with him. Okay, 0:18:34.836 --> 0:18:39.956 going ahead of me, and so I went behind him, 0:18:40.156 --> 0:18:43.796 went into customs, and sure enough those agents came up 0:18:43.796 --> 0:18:47.396 to me. Tommy made us started confronting him too. You know, hey, 0:18:47.436 --> 0:18:50.716 what he hadn't done anything, you know, and so they've 0:18:50.876 --> 0:18:55.156 threatened to arrest him, and that was the end of that. 0:18:55.956 --> 0:18:58.796 Tommy and Heather went one way, and the two FBI 0:18:58.876 --> 0:19:01.796 agents escorted Lee out of the airport and into a 0:19:01.796 --> 0:19:09.476 car where a Jamaican police officer was waiting for them. 0:19:09.516 --> 0:19:11.876 They then all head to the hotel where the FBI 0:19:11.956 --> 0:19:15.676 agents were staying so they could grab their stuff. We 0:19:15.836 --> 0:19:20.276 go to the hotel and the two agents get out 0:19:20.316 --> 0:19:22.436 of the car and we're sitting in the parking lot. 0:19:22.476 --> 0:19:25.596 I'm in there with this cop and the cop that 0:19:25.756 --> 0:19:28.636 was in the front seat driving us. He was one 0:19:28.636 --> 0:19:31.716 of the cops I used to pay off. And I said, listen, 0:19:31.756 --> 0:19:33.516 you don't you remember who I am? You know who 0:19:33.556 --> 0:19:35.756 I am? So he goes I can't help you, Rich, 0:19:36.676 --> 0:19:39.436 I said, I'll never forget it. So you know, I 0:19:39.516 --> 0:19:41.716 was kind of threatening him, and I said, all I 0:19:41.756 --> 0:19:43.916 gotta do is let me run. He goes, I can't 0:19:43.956 --> 0:19:47.556 do it, so he wouldn't let me out, and that 0:19:47.676 --> 0:19:50.356 was it. The two FBI agents got back in the car. 0:19:50.636 --> 0:19:53.276 They drove to Kingston and caught the next flight back 0:19:53.276 --> 0:19:59.036 to the US with Lee in custody. In Motley Crue's memoir, 0:19:59.196 --> 0:20:01.996 Tommy Lee Base takes full responsibility for all of this, 0:20:02.476 --> 0:20:04.876 saying that he and Heather caused the downfall of one 0:20:04.876 --> 0:20:08.476 of the country's biggest drug smugglers, all because they didn't 0:20:08.476 --> 0:20:12.316 want to go to Maka alone. Tommy writes, Heather and 0:20:12.396 --> 0:20:14.676 I felt terrible. We had no one to show us 0:20:14.676 --> 0:20:22.596 around Jamaica. Now that he was in federal custody, Lee 0:20:22.676 --> 0:20:25.916 Rich began to mull over where exactly he'd gone wrong, 0:20:26.436 --> 0:20:29.676 and he recalled something that his business partner, Mike Vogel, 0:20:29.836 --> 0:20:33.676 the grocery guy, had told him. Mike was the distributor 0:20:33.676 --> 0:20:37.236 who ran the enormous drug warehouse back in Detroit, and 0:20:37.396 --> 0:20:40.236 Lie says Mike he had never really liked Tommy and 0:20:40.316 --> 0:20:43.876 Heather thought they were trouble. Lee remembers him saying repeatedly, 0:20:44.236 --> 0:20:47.156 stay away from those people. They're going to be your downfall. 0:20:50.196 --> 0:20:53.676 Mike Vogel was right, in fact, more right than he knew. 0:20:54.276 --> 0:20:58.116 In a way, Tommy and Heather would also be his downfall, 0:20:58.556 --> 0:21:01.596 because at the very moment that Lee was being apprehended 0:21:01.636 --> 0:21:05.876 in Jamaica, there was another operation targeting Mike Vogel back 0:21:05.916 --> 0:21:10.516 in Detroit. When we come back after the break, Ned 0:21:10.516 --> 0:21:14.956 Timmins and the FBI make their move on the grocery guy. 0:21:29.116 --> 0:21:32.716 Back in Michigan, Ned was itching to arrest Mike Vogel. 0:21:33.036 --> 0:21:35.436 The idea was to get both of these guys, Lee 0:21:35.676 --> 0:21:39.236 and then Mike, almost at the exact same time, so 0:21:39.356 --> 0:21:42.276 neither one of them would tip off the other. Everything 0:21:42.356 --> 0:21:47.716 had to be perfectly synchronized this moment, it was the 0:21:47.756 --> 0:21:51.236 culmination of almost three years of work on Ned's part. 0:21:52.076 --> 0:21:54.836 It had been an epic journey, taking him from a 0:21:54.916 --> 0:21:57.916 roadside biker bar in Detroit all the way to the 0:21:57.916 --> 0:22:01.636 glitzie beaches of the Caymans. And during this time Ned's 0:22:01.676 --> 0:22:07.116 case had steadily grown, merging with other investigations in North Carolina, Louisiana, 0:22:07.156 --> 0:22:10.916 and Florida. Other agencies had gotten involved too, like the 0:22:10.996 --> 0:22:15.556 d EA, the IRS, the Coastguard, US Customs, and a 0:22:15.556 --> 0:22:19.916 slew of state and county investigators. Together, the authorities had 0:22:19.916 --> 0:22:25.436 built a strong case against the smugglers, and throughout this 0:22:25.516 --> 0:22:28.636 time Ned had kept pretty close tabs on Mike Vogel, 0:22:28.956 --> 0:22:32.076 and apparently Mike had picked up on this. That's what 0:22:32.156 --> 0:22:35.116 he told me. Anyway, Mike boasted to me that he 0:22:35.196 --> 0:22:39.356 had sources within the FBI. He added rather cryptically that 0:22:39.476 --> 0:22:42.796 he knew all about Ned. Did I sit down have 0:22:42.916 --> 0:22:45.916 lunch or dinner with him? Now? Okay, I just I 0:22:45.956 --> 0:22:49.636 was aware of them. I was very aware of them. 0:22:49.756 --> 0:22:54.636 I remembin the day that Ned Timmins he ever got 0:22:54.636 --> 0:22:58.436 involved with me, I wish I had never heard my name. 0:23:01.556 --> 0:23:04.476 So on May twenty third, nineteen eighty six, the same 0:23:04.596 --> 0:23:07.916 day League gets arrested, Ned Timmins is staked out at 0:23:07.956 --> 0:23:12.236 Mike Vogel's house in Milford. We had the whole swat 0:23:12.236 --> 0:23:14.836 team out there laying in Vogle's place all night long 0:23:15.276 --> 0:23:18.036 waiting for word that they had Lee and custody. And 0:23:18.196 --> 0:23:20.396 once we got word that they had Lee in custody, 0:23:20.756 --> 0:23:24.916 then we had Vogle's house, his Ned and his FBI 0:23:24.956 --> 0:23:29.996 team are getting ready, something really weird happens. According to NED, 0:23:30.476 --> 0:23:35.316 a black panther starts stalking the woods. A black panther 0:23:35.396 --> 0:23:38.676 in Michigan. Okay, so there was some sightings of it, 0:23:39.676 --> 0:23:42.036 and we're in the swat team moonlightning. We've been laying 0:23:42.036 --> 0:23:47.716 out there all night, night vision everything, and this panther 0:23:47.836 --> 0:23:50.076 had been released. People had seen it and reported it. 0:23:50.156 --> 0:23:51.916 You know, that there's a black panther run around out 0:23:51.916 --> 0:23:54.596 here and there some cattle had been killed. And so 0:23:54.636 --> 0:23:57.356 we're all laying out there talking on our radios and 0:23:57.476 --> 0:24:00.196 you know, waiting for word to hit the house. And 0:24:00.316 --> 0:24:07.116 this panther was screaming like this in the night, in 0:24:07.156 --> 0:24:11.476 the moonlight, and you know, you know what's out there someplace, 0:24:12.116 --> 0:24:15.076 and you're laying in the grass and it was a 0:24:15.076 --> 0:24:21.796 bit nerve wracking. Okay, So I was skeptical about this story. 0:24:22.156 --> 0:24:25.436 Seemed like another NED tail that would be well impossible 0:24:25.436 --> 0:24:28.436 to fact jack and then I found an article from 0:24:28.436 --> 0:24:32.076 the Time dispatched from the town where Mike Vogel lived, 0:24:32.316 --> 0:24:36.516 confirming that yes, there had been over thirty sightings of 0:24:36.556 --> 0:24:41.396 this large predatory cat. Anyway, NED was focused on getting 0:24:41.396 --> 0:24:45.036 the job done Meanwhile, Mike is in his house asleep 0:24:45.116 --> 0:24:48.996 next to his wife Julie. I had drive away suns, 0:24:49.196 --> 0:24:53.316 you know, put you know if anybody's coming on your property. Okay, 0:24:53.716 --> 0:24:58.636 and I always beep beep, beep, beep beep. Julie looked 0:24:58.636 --> 0:25:00.036 at me and said, what was that? Such of the 0:25:00.116 --> 0:25:04.796 fetche I could tell you know, you don't have twenty 0:25:04.836 --> 0:25:07.756 beeps going off for one car. It was a whole 0:25:07.836 --> 0:25:10.876 group of them that came. They had I RS guys, 0:25:10.956 --> 0:25:14.996 I had FBI guys and a few DA guys and 0:25:15.276 --> 0:25:19.836 Michigan State Police and of course Ned Timmins was there too. 0:25:20.436 --> 0:25:24.076 And in this moment when Ned Timmins g Man shows 0:25:24.116 --> 0:25:27.636 up to arrest Mike Vogel, master criminal, it isn't some 0:25:27.756 --> 0:25:30.956 kind of tense standoff. They don't stare each other down 0:25:31.156 --> 0:25:34.316 or cuss each other out. Mike says that Ned was 0:25:34.356 --> 0:25:38.396 pretty friendly, cordial, that was the word he used, like 0:25:38.516 --> 0:25:42.356 two boxers after a fight. All the swagger gone and 0:25:42.556 --> 0:25:48.596 now just the handshake. He allowed me to go ahead 0:25:48.636 --> 0:25:51.756 and take a shower and say goodbye to my wife 0:25:51.756 --> 0:25:56.956 and kids. Yeah, we're going to prison. Mike Vogel was 0:25:56.996 --> 0:26:00.556 indicted in federal court in Detroit. The indictment alleged that 0:26:00.636 --> 0:26:04.116 he and a fellow smugglers were responsible for importing at 0:26:04.196 --> 0:26:08.436 least five hundred and sixty six thousand pounds of marijuana. 0:26:08.596 --> 0:26:12.236 Investing its estimated that over the years they smuggled as 0:26:12.356 --> 0:26:15.996 much as one billion dollars worth of drugs into the US. 0:26:16.956 --> 0:26:19.796 Vogel played guilty That same year, he was stripped of 0:26:19.836 --> 0:26:23.956 his wealth forfeiting, among other things, a boat, five cars, 0:26:24.116 --> 0:26:27.316 and four homes in Michigan. He was sentenced to twenty 0:26:27.316 --> 0:26:31.396 five years in prison. Lee was arrested that Vogel was arrested, 0:26:31.476 --> 0:26:34.436 and it became was all on the paper and the 0:26:34.476 --> 0:26:40.636