WEBVTT - Y’all Keep Giving These Cowards Badges and Guns!

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<v Speaker 1>Lame. He laughing with la. If you watch coffee Time too, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the name Flame, my role also known as

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<v Speaker 1>my role Flame. Come in with last and come in

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<v Speaker 1>with JN love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when

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<v Speaker 1>you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting

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<v Speaker 1>now comics, just paying homede. What's up? Tip? Yeah? You

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<v Speaker 1>know she raped shot towns on speaking to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>And second we're gonna last cut of the kicking in

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. We leave it with just a lift dispirit.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you want to revisit, so your first take

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<v Speaker 1>a list of your folks like it? Slip oh folks

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<v Speaker 1>that we take it. Can't no kiss do what you don't?

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<v Speaker 1>No kiss do what you do? Can't no kiss do

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<v Speaker 1>what I do? No? Good morning, Welcome, Hello, good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what's happy? I just got out for plane.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna blame somebody, let's blame me. Come on you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something like eight minutes. It's okay, only eight minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>We're black. You can't be late when you're black. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I lying? I didn't say anything. Hello. Welcome, ladies and

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<v Speaker 1>gentle want to laugh and learn with Flame Monroe, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Lauren Hogan. I'm sorry, we're a little bit late.

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<v Speaker 1>My plane was delayed about eight minutes, but I got

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<v Speaker 1>ready and about four for real. So this is it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty impressive too. I gotta give it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It wasn't good, Lauren, it was pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>My head the right way. What wig is this? What

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<v Speaker 1>are we calling this? This is my sharing stone? Uh

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<v Speaker 1>not sharing stone, sharing Osborne. So I'm giving out my

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<v Speaker 1>sharing Osboro shore underwood wig just in case to talk

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<v Speaker 1>me to replacement. Get sharing with a tan and a penis. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello flay mats, Welcome to laugh and learn. Hello Lauren Hogan. Hello, Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Nick is coming in, but I just came

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<v Speaker 1>in from Chicago. You all went home to some stuff made,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chill came home to hell. So I had to

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<v Speaker 1>come home and cuss my kids out because they did

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<v Speaker 1>not keep my house clean while I was going. So

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<v Speaker 1>I came in acting very black. Then I had to

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<v Speaker 1>leave for about thirty minutes, and then I came back

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<v Speaker 1>and when Lauren came up, Say asked who was playing

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio, y'landa adam. That's when I knew something

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong. Y'all. She was going to church, and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Lord was in the midst of it all, and the

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<v Speaker 1>battle was not about to be the Lord's. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about to be man because I was about to funk

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<v Speaker 1>all three of my kids up. Let me just be

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<v Speaker 1>real honest with y'all this morning, since I just got

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<v Speaker 1>that Southwest playing Good Morning, Flames, Well, how triple hello kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Though I cameraman, this kiddo was here, I produced a

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<v Speaker 1>triple was here? Where is Nick? Nick is not here? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring Nick in everyone. Well, anyway, Nick, how was

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<v Speaker 1>your weekend? My weekend was good, you know, Lauren. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent the day running around today, don't laugh. Flame and

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<v Speaker 1>I had this talk. It looks like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be here and Arkansas a little bit longer than I

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<v Speaker 1>had thought. Uh so I've been spending time kind of

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<v Speaker 1>running around looking for a car. So that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>my morning was today. What do you mean You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mean in Arkansas longer than you thought? I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>lived there permanently, because you want to tell us something, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've only been here. I've only been here a year.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so so it looks like I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would only be a year. But COVID had other plans,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I happened to be addicted to gainful employment,

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<v Speaker 1>so flame flame flame. His favorite adages when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do, Nicholas, just sit still, Just sit still.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of like that. And then I went

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<v Speaker 1>to d C this weekend, Lauren, and I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I thought about you because you and I were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about King and I paid a visit to the

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<v Speaker 1>King Memorial and all that, but you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about how uh you know, his legacy still

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<v Speaker 1>rings to Atlanta, and I know how much time you

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<v Speaker 1>spent there. So it's just one of those things you

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<v Speaker 1>just feel connected whenever you get a chance to visit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the monument and all that. So definitely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely would just make this recommendation if anybody's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to see all the monuments at one time, just get

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<v Speaker 1>on a little scooter. Trust me, It'll save your life

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm I know better. I took a scooter and

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<v Speaker 1>only cost me about twenty three dollars and I was

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<v Speaker 1>all going all around the monuments for about four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>So absolutely it's the most effective way to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. So and I believe flame you have some

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<v Speaker 1>big news to announce. Correct. We couldn't do it last week,

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<v Speaker 1>we can do it this week. What's the big Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I came home and cuss my kids out. That big no.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does pertain to one of your kids though,

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<v Speaker 1>the same one three I was proud of last week

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<v Speaker 1>when I came home today when I got there plane

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<v Speaker 1>and walked to my house and my house wasn't clean. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I showed up like Betty Wright that I was the

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<v Speaker 1>clean up woman. I cussed my kids out. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you all the game, I'm not parents. I'm the regular parent.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the side of that, let's go here that

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<v Speaker 1>last week we were doing Laugh and Learned, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we get off the live, the mailman had runs. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted got the mail. It was a letter from Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>State University for my sons. I was like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>is this. I wanted to open it, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>not addressed to me, and you know it's illegal to

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<v Speaker 1>open somebody else mail as if I give a damn.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was being courteous. I said, dude, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta letter. He said, well, I know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my acceptance letter. I'm like acceptance letter where you

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<v Speaker 1>got accepted. Oh, they emailed me Friday, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. Yeah, Okay, this is the house I live in, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>not the house that Jack built, the house that the

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<v Speaker 1>training build. So saying all that to say Barbara, well

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<v Speaker 1>I should say JaMarcus aka Barbara got into Tennessee State

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<v Speaker 1>University on a full ride on a full ride turn

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<v Speaker 1>on his college because he is graduating from high school

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<v Speaker 1>with his associates degree. I'm bragging and I'm petting myself

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<v Speaker 1>on the back, and that that that player too, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm furious with all three of the asses right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So very exciting news for sure. I'd like to just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of jump on that because I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that. I think it's absolutely fantastic. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>once again flame. I've said it before. Yes, I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up envious of friends of mine who had both parents

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<v Speaker 1>in the home. I didn't have that. There's something to

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<v Speaker 1>be said for the strength of a single parent who

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<v Speaker 1>gives unconditional support. I love my mother so much because

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<v Speaker 1>my mother never allowed me to question what was possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that you continue to push all three

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<v Speaker 1>of them the exact same way. Flame. You can be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but you have never had anyone question your

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<v Speaker 1>love and your support to your children, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>evidenced in jamacus. I got to thank you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>got two discrepancies with your statement. First of all, Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>can I be a lot? Huh? And secondly, why did

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<v Speaker 1>you say you said um a single parent in the home.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically it's two of us here. She came through the door,

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<v Speaker 1>and because they asked it out, but he was ready

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<v Speaker 1>to get the belt and be some bass. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying he she, we lives. He she we walked through

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<v Speaker 1>the door this morning. Ready these kids up. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>just be honest with y'all. I'vein't gone for four days.

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<v Speaker 1>I hustle. I don't even expect much for my children,

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<v Speaker 1>but they will keep my house. Claim when I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I will take all apparatus and cell phones, computers, credit

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<v Speaker 1>cards and everything else. And y'all asked to go black.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all live in the seventies for real, like you, you

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<v Speaker 1>better go play some stickball. I thought, I thought doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Spock and Oprah said that the correct thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>his time out. You talk to your children because you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're angry with yourself, You're not angry with them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>only dirt. That's a joke, right, It did not laying that, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>get lay flat panpan. I need you to stick the

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<v Speaker 1>news hunting. Speaking of telling jokes, I got on stage

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<v Speaker 1>for the very first time in more than a year

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<v Speaker 1>this past Friday at Club Riddles in Chicago, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just all right. It wasn't great. I'm sorry faster

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<v Speaker 1>I could not bring y'all on the lab. But the

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<v Speaker 1>club was tripping real hard. It was only like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four people in the damn club too, but they would

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<v Speaker 1>not let us go laugh. So that's the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go, I know, y'all. And then then then I

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<v Speaker 1>went dark because I was on something else. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>telling jokes, but I was definitely making somebody laugh. Business

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was. It was some other beauties. It

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<v Speaker 1>was some very personal business. But wasn't not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Get back on stage. It felt weird. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I had to step outside myself and pushed myself to

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<v Speaker 1>get on stage because I hadn't done it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so used to coming to y'all now on here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find my footing for like the first three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half minutes because the audience was a little

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<v Speaker 1>through off of me. But then they came around and

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<v Speaker 1>it got better, so it was good. And I started

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<v Speaker 1>with the person who I started doing comedy with, who's

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<v Speaker 1>Damian Williams from Chicago. So I went to his club

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<v Speaker 1>and just showed up and worked with Coco from The

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<v Speaker 1>Choice and she was great. Okay, let's get to topics.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough about me when I'm talking about my look huge,

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<v Speaker 1>So wait a minute. One of the things as we

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<v Speaker 1>moved into transitioning I'm interested in here in flame, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>sound off about this as we continue to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>other things, because we have five really good topics to

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<v Speaker 1>jump into today. But one of the things I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>swallows in d C over the last four or five

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<v Speaker 1>days is that there are a great number of people

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<v Speaker 1>eating outdoors, and I think that what it reminded me of.

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<v Speaker 1>And the weather wasn't the best the entire time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not California, and I stopped there and I posted this

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<v Speaker 1>question on Instagram last week and opinions were all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. But I've never been a fan of eating

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<v Speaker 1>outdoors like I'm I'm aware of that I've never enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>the al fresco, fighting with the elements, sound, streets, bugs, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems to be friends mind there, said Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is the new normal. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to expect that everything will be outside now, that

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<v Speaker 1>people won't be comfortable going inside restaurants. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>interested to know how you all fail. Do you prefer

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<v Speaker 1>to eat inside or outside or do you care? I

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<v Speaker 1>love a good rooftop situation. And I don't know maybe

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<v Speaker 1>because honestly, like that's really a thing in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>like for instance, like if you talk to like people

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<v Speaker 1>that are from New York, even like my mom, like rooftops,

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<v Speaker 1>outside parties, eating all of that. That's been like a

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<v Speaker 1>thing in New York. I mean in California too, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe it's just something that's popular among

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<v Speaker 1>my generation. But I love eating outside. You know, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get some ventilation sometimes when you're inside

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<v Speaker 1>and in closed spaces you may get hot, different things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I like eating outdoors and hanging out outside.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's fun for me. I'm not I'm not afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of it because I don't like flies. No, seriously, I

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<v Speaker 1>really have a pet peeve about Flask, Like if a

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<v Speaker 1>flag on me, I'm disgusted because it is a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>beast and if they could kill us, they would. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fix this head yet my face. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to eat outside because I want to share

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<v Speaker 1>my lunch with Flaws and if they didn't help pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it, they can't eat with me. So that's but

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I mean, I do think that. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, it must be something with Beverly Hills, because

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<v Speaker 1>like last year when I had a birthday party at

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<v Speaker 1>Commons House and we said, I'm said, no Flaws and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have any of the But so the flawers

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<v Speaker 1>must be trained not to come to Beverly Hills. They

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<v Speaker 1>will not come to nine o two one. Oh, So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should get rich. I don't know. Just about

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<v Speaker 1>nine two one, I'm wondering, where are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>eat where you got flies galore? What is the restaurant's

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<v Speaker 1>healthy department rating? Were not indoors outside? That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the what's the rest of the restaurant's department of health?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, because I think part of my issue too,

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<v Speaker 1>is like l A is just fealthy, right, and I

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<v Speaker 1>way hold on back on l A San Francisco, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying there. So you you're competing with

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<v Speaker 1>the cars and the Jersey barriers and the smells, and

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<v Speaker 1>are housing insecure possibly, you know, And and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of things happening to distract from

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<v Speaker 1>the meal. I think when you're outside, or that's been

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<v Speaker 1>my experience, particularly when you're offer like mail rolls in

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<v Speaker 1>those areas, you know. But I'm not one of those

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<v Speaker 1>people like you know, like people you're eating and you

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<v Speaker 1>see something disgusting and turn your appetite off. Baby, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not putting it in my mouth, So it ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>turn my appetite. And if I paid for my meal,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna continue eating. I don't give a damn. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>come over here with that, Lauren. Where are we going

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<v Speaker 1>this morning? Um? Honestly, we got a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. We have, we have a topic to

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<v Speaker 1>start with. I think we can still start there, but

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<v Speaker 1>as you I'm sure, no, Nick, We're going to add

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<v Speaker 1>something else that has to be discussed. Yeah, So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we can honestly, let's start the Black Army officer that

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<v Speaker 1>was pep pepper sprayed in the traffic stop. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>been some new developments around that two hours of this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great for me because we remember last week

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<v Speaker 1>when I told you all that they called me about

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<v Speaker 1>my son joining the military, and I said, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>And this black man has shown he was a lieutenant

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<v Speaker 1>right and they have disrespected him. And he was so cordial,

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<v Speaker 1>very professional. He was articulated in his speech. He kept

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<v Speaker 1>a calm, cool temperature. He really tried to de escalate

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<v Speaker 1>that situation. I watched that on the plane, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you I've watched it three times to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>man really tried to control the narrative of the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>He never was hostile, he never changed his tone and

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<v Speaker 1>his voice. And this officer was just determined to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>Have something happened. He sprayed. The man man lost his job.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna sue his ass. I wish he would have

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<v Speaker 1>put that. I keep telling y'all, they keep giving these

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<v Speaker 1>police officer, these cowboys keep getting guns and pepper spray

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<v Speaker 1>and tastes and pass this stawed taking their pensions. Him

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<v Speaker 1>getting fired is not enough for because all he gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do is go up the street and get another damn

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<v Speaker 1>job as a police officers somewhere else snatched that nigga's pension.

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<v Speaker 1>When you put your hand in somebody's pocket, you make

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<v Speaker 1>them pay attention to what you're saying. Is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Second Lieutenant Caron Nazario. He was in uniform being pepper

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<v Speaker 1>sprayed and forcibly removed from his vehicle and put to

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. And that video one viral last week. The

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<v Speaker 1>incident actually happened in December, after traffic stop. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in uniform and the officer which again uh, the officer

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<v Speaker 1>has since been released from his job. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>think flame just because you touched on that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is also a testament to his training, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is just another additional value I think

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<v Speaker 1>of the military is how he was able to stay

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<v Speaker 1>calm in that situation. You you laud at his professionalism

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, and I do think that that helped

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<v Speaker 1>even a horrible situation, at least he served you know

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<v Speaker 1>that he was able to survive. I think the the

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<v Speaker 1>weight of that situation falls on the officers that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe acted inappropriately. But I think that the officer is

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<v Speaker 1>to be commended for the way he handled the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna just give the military a pass on

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he was he got that tolerance from the military.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say that he was trained by his parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever raised him taught him that. The military, who teaches

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<v Speaker 1>you discipline, it also teaches you how to be ready

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<v Speaker 1>and on time and respectful. But I'm gonna say that

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<v Speaker 1>that timperment, that coolman that he had, not only did

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<v Speaker 1>he have the black talk from whatever house he was

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<v Speaker 1>raised up in, which we have all had the black talk.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know what the black talking is on

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<v Speaker 1>this page, I ain't gonna explain it to you. Google it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ain't had the black talk. Somebody gave him

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<v Speaker 1>the black He knew how to handle that situation. I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe that he learned some tactics in the military,

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<v Speaker 1>But I ain't given the military ship. The military have

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<v Speaker 1>not respected the veterans. I did ain't even about the

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<v Speaker 1>black men, veterans period, veterans in this country who have

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<v Speaker 1>stood up and fought on the front line, lost Lamb's

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<v Speaker 1>arms and some of them that damn mind. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these people are still alive, but they don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>who they are, and the military does not not Just

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<v Speaker 1>just to let you know, that's not a reflection on

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<v Speaker 1>the military flight. That's a reflection on society at large

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<v Speaker 1>that does not value military service. That's a reflection on

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<v Speaker 1>military nicklace. Because don't they have the v A. The

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<v Speaker 1>v A is a part of the military, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Veterans Administration is a Vetterans Administration as a government agency,

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<v Speaker 1>as a federal agency, is not part of the military.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the military is the military government. The military

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<v Speaker 1>is a branch as another Armed services is definitely part

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<v Speaker 1>of the federal government. Right whatever. But what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is I thought you were yes, got you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>off topic, come out. No, I'm just saying that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we have to commend because I think they

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<v Speaker 1>love the military and military I just don't I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that they deserve blame in this situation. I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, I think that, like all of us, where

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<v Speaker 1>some of all of our parts right, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to just applaud the way he handled that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that he was to be commended. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not think he was a lieutenant. Yes, I definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not a fault. He was all I wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 1>He was. He wanted to get home. Now, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a point you definitely made. He wanted to get home

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<v Speaker 1>to his family. But but while we got to kiss ass,

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<v Speaker 1>why we gotta make why I gotta be apologetic when

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't even done anything wrong. The officer never even

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<v Speaker 1>said why he pulled him over, and he kept saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you three times, why did you pull me up?

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<v Speaker 1>He DEVI gave him. This is what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't. He didn't give a funk. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>gun and a badge, and it was gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>If if this guy would have given him any aggression.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that we speak aggressively, I speak aggressively.

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<v Speaker 1>He at least he was schooled enough to know that

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<v Speaker 1>because he got home to his family. Now the guy

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<v Speaker 1>lost his job, but he gonna get another job. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they sue his ass. I hope they's what

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<v Speaker 1>city was that, Norfolk, Virginia. I hope they cleaned his

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope he cleaned the police station out. Well

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<v Speaker 1>to both of you guys points, I think that he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely knew what to do because he drove I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like another half a mile into a very well at

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<v Speaker 1>gas station, which I think he was a smart to

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<v Speaker 1>do because had this been outside on the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the road, it was dark. Virginia doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a lot of lights. If you've been to Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a well lit area where he was. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that he was able to go to this

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<v Speaker 1>gas station. I'm glad that they have the footage so

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<v Speaker 1>they can see what this officer was doing. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, it's just, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I totally agree with Flame in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>you want these young black men to go and serve

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<v Speaker 1>your country, but when you come back to this country,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not given the slightest bit of respect at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just, um, it's sad to see another case

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<v Speaker 1>of this, another incident. And I also saw another report

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<v Speaker 1>that's saying since the beginning of there's been at least

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred traffic involved stops among black people of or

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<v Speaker 1>people of color rather where it's been an officer involved shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's only April it's been two hundred of these.

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<v Speaker 1>So and Nicholas, you have that temperament you do you

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<v Speaker 1>you because Rogette, I know your mama talked to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and since she gave you to talk about you know

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<v Speaker 1>how to because I saw you when we had that

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<v Speaker 1>all occation with that guy, remember when we did the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wouldn't have been me. See and see, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not that person. And if the officer would have got

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<v Speaker 1>disrespectful and loud, guess what I was gonna do. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna get disrespectful and loud. And I'm not not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking even though my grown manness or grown person, this

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<v Speaker 1>need to jump in and say you need to get

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<v Speaker 1>home to your kids. Just calming down. But the officer

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<v Speaker 1>was aggressive. He didn't want he wanted to be challenged.

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<v Speaker 1>He was pushing it to be challenged. I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>officer was unnecessarily aggressive. When when we saw Lieutenant Azario

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<v Speaker 1>put his hands out the window, He's talking to him calmly.

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<v Speaker 1>He drove slowly, Lauren. We you know we talked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He drove slowly to the fire, to the gas station,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not trying to get away, I'm just getting

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<v Speaker 1>to a wellded area. I just want hey, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on. Hands are out the window,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell me what's going on, and he's just

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<v Speaker 1>yelling at him, and and and I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like that was completely unnecessary. Well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a setup too, because the officer was saying, keep your

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<v Speaker 1>hands out the window where I I can see you,

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<v Speaker 1>but take your seat built off and step out the car.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he puts his hand back in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>does that give you license to, now what, shoot him?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you felt like my life was in danger, You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving him miss mixed signals in terms of what

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<v Speaker 1>he can do. And that's what honestly allows these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities for qualified immunity that we talked about two in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of police feeling threatened because oh, well I told

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<v Speaker 1>him to do this and he reached inside the car.

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see what was in the car. So I felt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that my life was threatened. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got caught of this lad because of body camp.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, though, um I remember, honestly us not having

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<v Speaker 1>tags on the cars I've I'm starting to notice that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had an experience like this with even L A.

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<v Speaker 1>P D. I had just bought my car when I

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<v Speaker 1>came back to Los Angeles and I had a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>license up in the window. Got pulled over and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, you don't have any tags on your car.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, I have, you know, my

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>temporary license display. I don't have my I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>everything yet. And the officer was very rude. He was

0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>an Asian officer, reached in my car, snatched it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was a whole thing, to the point

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<v Speaker 1>that my father had to get involved. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of feelings about this, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>good to have a daddy and Niggers. I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we appreciate my my father was in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my biological father was in. So I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>what the what the veterans do. What I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>is the disrespect that they get from our own count

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<v Speaker 1>from their own country. And I'm mostly talking about me

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<v Speaker 1>and of color, black and brown people. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>talking about I'm not I don't know what. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen some white veterans here what they said. You know

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 1>how many homeless people here said they are fad nobody

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.920
<v Speaker 1>did anything for them, that they're homeless and woo. So

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's just across the board to me. But

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in time, I'm definitely not gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>my son go join the military. Not in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>We already at war. He I told the man, we

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<v Speaker 1>was at a ward. Don't you watch the news? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>what were we in right now? I say, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>watching the trailer of Derek Chauvin. I should have said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I didn't say Derek Schoulvin, I said of

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd, because Derek Chauvin ain't on trail, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a really good point to make, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can also segue now into that that

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<v Speaker 1>I it's it's annoying to me that the narrative is

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, you know, we're watching the murder trial of

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Derek Chauvin. Derek Chaudan didn't get murdered, Okay, George Floyd

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<v Speaker 1>did so. I think also too, on the media front,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to accurately display what's happening, because that's only

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.440
<v Speaker 1>adding to the narrative of what the defense is trying

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to say. Derek Chauvin wasn't murdered, George Floyd was. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to talk about a murder trial, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the murder trial of George Floyd. He's the one. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the reason they say the murder trial of Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Chauvin is because it was because of his actions that

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<v Speaker 1>were at this point, So he needs to be held accountable,

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<v Speaker 1>not George Floyd. No reason for George Floyd to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of this narrative because George Floyd is not by

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<v Speaker 1>his own hand that he is in this situation. He

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>is in this situation because he chose to he being

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Derek Chauvin, chose to buy accounts from his own members

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of his own police force, not use his training when

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>outside of his training applied force that was lethal, and

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>is because of those actions that he has been tried

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>for the murder of George Floyd. That nigga killed them,

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that means because I still don't think that that's what said,

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So that showing is a shyster. And I'm telling y'all,

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>they need to put that nigg on the witness stand

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and they need to let that lady prosecutor corner that

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>nigger because she's gonna be the one because to me

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and b act an all timid and ship, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>telling you all the balls now belong to women. Let

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>me just say that all the balls save to belong

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>to women. Women got more balls than a lot of

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>these men right now. And I see what I said,

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and I mean exactly what I said, because their backbone

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 1>is sticking up, and so many men are tucking their

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<v Speaker 1>head because they're worried about their careers or their livelihoods

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and how much money they make it and pushing integrity

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and just stuff that really matters to the back burner

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just for a check, or they say I'm popular. Women

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>are really black and mostly brown, and black women are

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 1>carrying the burden for everybody, and black men, mostly in

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the black community. I know some black men're gonna be

0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>mad at me, but y'all know I don't give an

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>y'all do know that, right? Okay? What happened Lauren? No?

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I agree with you, honestly. The burden Honestly,

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it falls on us a lot of the time, and

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 1>we're the ones that are, you know, pushing forward. But um,

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll just say this, I think at this point between

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 1>all of the expert testimony, and I saw that today too,

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>they were saying that and a lot of trials that

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>they dream of these types of experts that are coming

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>forward on behalf of the prosecution to really showcase, you know,

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>just how in the wrong Derek Chauvin is. So I

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>think that I'm gonna just say this, He's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to take one for the white team at this point.

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, They're just gonna have to do that. They're

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to convict him. That's the only way that

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>this is going to end well, because I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>report I think in Business Insider yesterday. If I'm not

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>mistaken that let this verdict come back that he's not guilty,

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be some problems. So they're gonna Jerik Chauvin

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>needs to take one for the white team just to

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>keep the piece of America. And Laura, I know you

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 1>have I know you have law enforcement in your family,

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and I think that we can both say this is

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<v Speaker 1>like the first time we've seen a cry in that

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 1>blue wall, because usually the blue wall stands together, and

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 1>we have seen members of the police force say this

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>is not what we do at all, this completely and

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they came out against him. Nicholas. It's so many officers,

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>including the captain or what wasn't the chief the chief

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you something, everybody. If everybody is saying

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>some horrible shit about you, it's not it's not a lie.

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. Let me chase something. This man here. And

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>then they had the doctor come on in and said, oh, well,

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>he had taken drugs and he was he could have

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>had what what's she a doctor? The little young white

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>girl did she came on she gave experts testimony last

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>week because I was watching and said that something about

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>he was um, he was under the influence, so he

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was not none of which was which killed him. This

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>nigga put his knee on this man's neck. But that

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>man it's between that seconds looking at the camera and

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>they got the and and I'm telling you, Lauren just

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>made a very valid point. I do think that something

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 1>will happen. But I think something will happen no matter

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>what the verd he is because they raised a million

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>dollars to for for the defense too, because they believe

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 1>they want him to get off. We we who have

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>regular asks, who can see how everybody but Stevie wanted to,

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>can see that this nigga clearly killed this man. We

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>watched it, and we watch it every time they show

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it because they show it three fo times a damn day,

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>so you cannot get away from it. He is guilty.

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>But I'm telling you be ready, y'all because that judge,

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>that judge, well, I think too. Um. One thing I

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to bring up and this is I feel like

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be an in tandem thing because we

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about Dante, right, and what happened

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>yesterday in Minnesota, just ten miles away from here. But

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting to your point about the judge

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>is because they were talking about today with sequestering the jury.

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>The defense tried to say, oh, you know, there's this

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 1>this new shooting, this new officer involved shooting happen yesterday,

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>we should really sequester the jury. So I'm glad that

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the judge denied the request, but he said, but what

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do is a week before for the jury

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>goes to deliberate, they are going to sequester the jury.

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And I really want to know why. So Nick, what

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts? Uh? I think a couple of things.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>There are reasons. We know that there are benefits to

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>sequestering the jury, but usually which what are the benefits? Well,

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>this is part of why they do it. The idea

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>behind sequestering the jury is so that they can be

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 1>cut off from any type of outside influence not associated

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 1>with the trial. It is possible that if I'm married,

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>or if I have friends with whom I speak regularly,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it is possible one of them is upset about what

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>they may have seen and may share that with me.

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Or you didn't hear about the kid who just got

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>shot ten miles away flame? What no, what happened? I

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.479
<v Speaker 1>was in trial today. I didn't know if they Oh,

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Nick has gotten no better? Wow, that's weighing on my mind.

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that a juror, being privy to that information,

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the defense might argue, can still be measured and removed

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 1>from influence if they're still seeing and hearing things that

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>are happening in the community that may have the community

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>once again marching in protests and demonstration. Do I then

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like, as a juror, this is my opportunity to

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>set the record straight? Or am I still being impartial

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and listening to the information presented before me. Those are

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>one of many one of the many reasons they try

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>to sequest your jury in high profile cases if they can.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You also don't want media knocking on their door. I've

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>been part of that. You know when we have you

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>know you're assigned. You need to find that redhead. You're

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>right there with the glasses, that the one who keep looking,

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>she keeps getting emotional. Nick, that's going to be the

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>one to give you the sound bite that you're looking for.

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>So we're all trying to find her where she is,

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>talked to her family member, all of these things, and

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, you really do want to protect

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>these people who are only doing their civic duty by

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>being on jury duty. You know, um, and learn to

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>be clear, there are people who get this because I

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>know something who dodge jury duty. So you've got people

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>who won't even stand up and do their duty to

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>do jury duty. Yet they don't want those who are

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>who have stood up to do the right thing to

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.959
<v Speaker 1>even have the protection of being protected from outside influences.

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So you know why, let me say, I'm starting to

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>examining to break your point, but you know why a

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of people Black people avoid jury duty because we

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>don't get the time off from work. A lot of

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>people don't get that time or they don't get the

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>money for that, and then they're put in situations and

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>they have children. They don't give you an opportunity to say,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to daycare to pick up my kids.

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>They care not gonna care about that. You in court,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you know for that so so flame, let's just say

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Got it? So now here, I am as

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>a black man, hoping to get somebody like a you

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>or a Lauren who may understand my background. But you

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>won't even show up because oh, I don't get time out.

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I gotta take care of my kids. Is is I

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>gotta do all these things, and I'm looking for somebody

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>who looks like me to be there. But then, then,

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>as a black man, don't get your ass in trouble

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and expect no other black person to get you out

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. Because I got my own life. Then don't

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>get in trouble. And I'm only talking to the ones

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that's guilty. I ain't talking to the ones that's innocent.

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>So that that's don't don't don't put don't put me

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>in that box with it because you on trial. I

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't put your ass in jail. I didn't do I'm

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>not talking to you niggas. I'm talking about the person there.

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't don't look at me. I need somebody black. You

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't come to jewelry duty. I would have had to

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>come to jewelry do it. And then if you wouldn't

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>have got your ass in no trouble. And that's the

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>only other ones that were guilty. I m the ones

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that was inn because a lot of us are innocent

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that go to jail. So M you cannot everybody can't

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>be your crutch. Your ass on your chest is to

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>save you. Then don't get your ass in trouble if

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you can avoid it. But you can't look for nobody

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>else to save you in that situation. And I don't

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>like the way they do black. And they put them

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in they put them in the room, and then they

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>ordered lunch, and some people get I'm telling I did

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>jury duty one time. Couldn't you believe I did a duty.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I was a good juror too, And they get certain

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>people certain lunches and a certain amount of time to

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>go and then different people. And I had young kids.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I had to get home of my Jews. This is

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>how I know from personal experience. You can't tell me

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't get home to my kids because this they're

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna try bring him back to court tomorrow. I gotta

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>go pick up my baby. We live in California. We

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>had just moved here. I knew no one, so I

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't have anyone to say, Hey, Lauren, can you go

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>pick my daughter up from Dacon. You know what I'm saying,

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Your your life mistakes is your excuses can't follow me.

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. And I would like to see

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>more of us and jury duty, But then then they

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>need to be a little more accommodating for black and

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>brown people so that we will go to do jewelry duty.

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Because if I'm treated fairly and I'm talked to like

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I got, like you got some goddamn sense, because I'm

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>already grown. If you talk to me crazy, I'm gonna

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>talk to you crazy back. But if you talk to

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>me like you got and since I'm gonna give you

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the same respect that you give Nickolas, they don't do that.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you the court system. Here's stuff here is

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>just twisted to me. But as far as that that

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>young boy that what was his name, Dante, right, they're

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>already looting and righting and and I'm sorry, and this

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is to my black people. Looting is not rioting. I don't.

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were. They they definitely have been

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to say but okay, so that considered looting. I'm

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>just saying I do still. But before we move on,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>let's go back to Derek Shavin. Sha has been charged

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>with second and third degree murder and manslaughter. So I

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>do feel like Lauren. They've tried to cover the bases there,

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and defense attorney Eric Nelson has argued that the now

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>fired white officer did what he was trying to do,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and then Floyd's death was caused by illegal drugs and

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>underlying medical problems. The prosecution make clothes and wrap up

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>their case as late as as early as this week.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, I want to be home though,

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens. I would encourage everybody to be home.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Everybody to go get a case of water, stock up

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>on some food, because it's whatever, whatever decision is. I

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>want me and my children to be at home, safe

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>together because I hope you are not on the road

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and traveling. Lauren. You can do triple. I hope everybody

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>is all my flamemates. I want you to be home

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>because you don't know. And I remember when O J

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was was let off on Nicole's Murphy's murder, I would

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>people were enraged. The black people were celebrating, but the

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>white people were furious. I thought it was gonna be

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and I was at Hartfield and Georgia. I thought it

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a damn right at the airport. So yeah,

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be home with my HJ, with my h J.

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>And again, this would only be the prosecution, I'm sorry. Yeah,

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the prosecution wrapping up there their case, and many are

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>wondering whether or not. And I just saw your guy

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Dan Abrams just talking about how it would be foolish

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>for the defense to put Derek Chauvin on on the stand,

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that he would he would do himself a great deal

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of harm if he were to open himself up to

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>cross examination, because, let me tell you, his defense the

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>defense attorney is failing miserably. He sucks. I'm sorry, there's

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>just no other way to say it. He's a terrible well.

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't say that he's a terrible attorney

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in general, because I don't know what his track record is.

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So let me clarify in this instance of this case,

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>he's terrible. Well, he's he's representing a terrible person. So

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>good good because that nigga killed that man. And I

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.240
<v Speaker 1>watched it, and I watched the upside down. I watched

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>it with my glasses off and on. I watched the

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>high and sober, and guess what, all the same outcome.

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>He murdered this man in cold blood. I do want

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>them to put George Floyd on this. I mean not George.

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I want them to put Derek Chalbin on the stand.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 1>And I want that lady to prosecutor to a corner

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that food and play that video and tell him you

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>cannot look down, you can't look away, you can't start writing,

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything. Your focus has to stay on

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you kill and stop it right there at that moment,

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>because he said he was being distracted by talking to

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.720
<v Speaker 1>those young people who was telling him, hey, he's not moving,

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he can't breathe, he's dying. And he said he was distracted.

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>He might have spoke, Derek Shelvin two or three words

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>out of that whole time you wanted to track, you

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>had johand in your pocket, you'll neel his neck. And

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>he was looking directly into the camera as if to say,

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kill this nigga and the ship y'all can

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>do about it. And I would like them to stop

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.479
<v Speaker 1>that video in court in front of the whole the world,

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the all the world watch and say what were you

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking right there at that moment, right there, at that moment,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>what was you thinking? And make him answer, Hey, no,

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I plead the fifth got nigga take

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a privilege and like I do remember some ship. As

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>we said, I do want to mention we talked about

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>as we closed last week, Uh, we were talking about

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>how the shootings have not slowed down and and since

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we since we got off the air last week, two

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Navy sailors injured into Frederick shooting. Gunman shot and killed

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>at Maryland Military base, we also talked about how. And

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>then also on Thursday NFL player, uh, Philip Adams, and

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>then Thursday the workplace shooting in Texas. So and then

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>just uh the one we were going to segue two

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>next night. No, we're gonna specify this because all of

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>those we're not officer involved shootings. So this segue for

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Dante right was another officer involved shooting. It was just

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>ten miles away in Minnesota. So in it's called Brooklyn Center, correct,

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, Brooklyn Center. Um So, background Again,

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the there's conflicting stories. There's one story that says that

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the officers pulled Dante right over because of his tags,

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>similar to the officer in Norfolk, Virginia. But there's another

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>story saying that the officers pulled him over because he

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>had an air freshener blocking his rear view mirror. But

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the mother is saying that that doesn't make sense because

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the windows were tempted. They had just bought him this car.

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Um So, the police pulled up, you know, pulled him over.

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>They're saying that the reason why they had him get

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>off the cars because he had a warrant out for

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>his arrest. I saw a part of the footage or

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the body camp footage that was released today the Dante

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>moved to get back into the car. When he did

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 1>the female actually she's a female police officer. They don't

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>want to confirm that yet, but I've heard that on

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the news. She's a female police officer claiming that she

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>was reaching for her taser and accidentally reached for her

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>gun and shot him, and she did apologize, So she

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is gonna bring his life back. No, but what I'm

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>saying is, unlike we're talking about that, we're talking about

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>how the Derek Schauvin Like, so, what we have in

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>this situation. Yes, in Minnesota, it is illegal to have

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 1>air fresheners hanging from the mirror. That's that's the first thing.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>And I guess they saw that when they actually stopped him, right. Um.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.439
<v Speaker 1>And then so when he moved to get back into

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the car, she screams, Taser, Taser apologized, pulled the wrong

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>pulled the wrong weapon. Um. So that that is definitely

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>your right, Lauren. That came out today that she's She's like, oh,

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not what So unlike say, the Derek Schauvin situation,

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>where we agree he had intent or looked like he

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 1>had intent to kill, this was a mistake on her part.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Is what are you? Are you serious, Nicholas, I'm really

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>serious right now too. Are you serious? You've given it?

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I know what you're saying, but I don't even want

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you to put those in the same comparison. I don't

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>give a funk that she made a mistake. That was

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody's son, and that was somebody's boyfriend, and that was

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody's nephew uncle. I don't know the funk about an apology.

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't get my baby back. No, I understand that

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not what I'm saying at all. I thought we

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>were talking about what happened in this situation, that's all.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I was just simply saying that that's what's come out today.

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>The latest information is that she made a mistake. She

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>has been she has since been put on leave. Um

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and as they can, and everybody had body cameras going uh.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>It is not like they were trying to hide anything.

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>They've been transparent about this from the beginning. So unlike

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the Chauving situation, I feel like we have more to

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>work with here than we can actually see what actually

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>played out. Since her birthday was today her Fursday. No,

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And this is and I'm gonna just say this, this

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>is where my problem is. Right for those of you

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.479
<v Speaker 1>that have had a gun versus a taser, I'm gonna

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>just say this, the weight is very different. It's not

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the same weight. It's just not And if you're a

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>properly trained police officer, it's very hard for me to

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>believe that you accidentally reached for your gun, didn't realize

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that you had your gun and then proceeded to fire

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>said gun. That's I just the weight of a gun

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>in the taser is not the same thing. It's just

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>not it's not the way. That's completely more. It's going

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to be more to this story because she probably had

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a bad day or a bad night. You remember that's

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what they said about the guy who she had a

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>bad day because just like Amber Geiger, remember she had

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a bad night because the boyfriend who was somebody's husband

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and she was trying to cheat with that. She said

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't come late with a white ass or whatever

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the funk she was. I said what I said. She

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>got mad and walked in the wrong house and shot

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that man and killed him. And she apologized. I don't

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>want your apology. I want you in jail. I want

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you the same thing you did to my kids is

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>what I want to you. I want if my baby

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>baby the Bible said, by all these Bible thumpers an

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>app or an eye baby, a life or life. And

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying and kill folks. I'm not encouraging that.

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even pushing that. But do you not gonna

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>give me no fucking Apolly oh, I'm so sorry. Sorry,

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that's as bad as you're coming to me saying my

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>band and I don't give my bad or what you're

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>bad or what. That's ridiculous to me that they should

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>have put that bit in jail, mama. Let me stop. Well,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>if it is indeed true that she grabbed the wrong weapon,

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Lauren one, and that is definitely poor.

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean if it is true, if she

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 1>grabbed the wrong weapon, I thought you all wait, y'all

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>saying she did it on purpose? Yes, dear, let me

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>say it again. Let me stay it for you. The

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>bitch did it on purpose. What I'm saying, and I'm

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>assuming then what I'm saying is if she did it

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>on purpose, and she's saying she meant to grab the taser,

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 1>then clearly she needed more training, right. I just I

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>can't fathom the fact that you didn't understand that you

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>had a gun in your hand and out a taser.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's not the same weapon. It's it's unfathomable

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>for me for for that kind of mistake to happen.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>And you want to say, oh, I'm sorry, this is

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>according again, this front police chief, This was an accidental

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>discharge that resulted in the tragic death of Mr Dante Right.

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Center Police Chief Tom Gannon said during today's press

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>conference where body camera's footage from all of the officers

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>has been released, and he noted that the very senior

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>officer involved shouted taser taser during the arrest, apologized immediately

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that she pulled out her handgun when she fired the

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>single shot that killed. So it was not repeated. It

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.720
<v Speaker 1>was one shot taser, taser oakes wrong, wrong wrong weapon.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>That So this is today and this is um. This

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>was from the today's press conference. Okay, let's brings something

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>missing because I need to get some of the opinions.

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Mark, because Mark is all up in the comments.

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Marc bat Marcus heated ready to fight. You want when

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>you need to take that aggression out on You wanna

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>take that aggression out on me? You wanna beat me?

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Play listen. First of all, First of all, there is

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>no way it is humanly impossible unless you are impaired

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that you do not. First of all, the trigger pull

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>is different on a taser versus a gun. The overall

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>feeling of it. I can grab, I can be blindfolded

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and go pull four my guns out and know which

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>gun I'm grabbing. There's no way, it's it's impossible. And

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>for the taser, don't you have to take a cover

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>off before you discharge it? Ye? So that that is

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>just the audacity that I think this is so close

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to what's going on right now in Minneapolis, and the

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>audacity that they have come up with this cover up

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>so quickly. I just I don't know what to say.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And there's no there's no rash. I agree with first lady.

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 1>First ladies said, when have they started shelling taste or tasted?

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>They don't do it. They just do it. They might

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>say one time, I'm gonna tase you, but they already

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 1>have the taser out. She raised them for that her gun.

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm with you market And then they say

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>she has senior office, So then she had been trained.

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 1>She had been trained numerous times. Supposedly, this goes back

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to the whole police reform. Stop putting people in neighborhoods

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that they don't belong in. If you don't know me,

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand how I speak, you don't understand that

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I used my hands and aggression when I'm speaking, even

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>when I'm not being aggressive, then your ass don't belong

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>over here in my neighborhood would have gun and a badge,

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>because when I see you, we were taught as children

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to respect authority, police, black robes, judges, all. But the

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 1>you just coming me and disrespectful child. These young kids

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think like that the more, and they stand up

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and speak for themselves. But I don't even think that

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>boy did that. He called again. He did just what

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>George Floyd did. George Floyd called out for his mama.

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>That boy called his mom on his cell phone first,

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>called back a minute later and the girlfriend answered the

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>phone and the mama said that that he had been shot.

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I think the girlfriend said told the mom here. I

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>just want to say that I think that that's the

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>sad part about this because, as I'm gonna just say,

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>people of color, black people in America, when you get

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 1>pulled over, you have the instinct to call a loved one,

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>So that way there's some proof to say this is

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>what happens to it's a matter of you feeling safe.

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, when Dante was pulled out of the car,

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I know that he went to go back into the car.

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>It could have been a flight or flight situation. There's

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>several instances of people getting arrested and not even making

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it to the police station alive. So in a lot

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 1>of ways, we have that flight or flight instant because

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's going to happen, because we don't

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>feel safe, we don't know what's gonna happen to us.

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>So for the simple fact that she's trying to say, like, oh, taser,

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>taser taste, there's just there's just too many holes her

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 1>story at this point. There are three there are three

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>body camp there are three body camera footed from three

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 1>played out today. What the officers can be seen approach

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he rights white car. One officer pulls the twenty year

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.320
<v Speaker 1>old out of the vehicle, turns him around, attempts to

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 1>handcuff him against the car, right struggles, gets back in.

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>During that chaotic struggle, officer pulls out a gun and

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>shoots as he's sitting in the driver's seat. The officer

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:27.800
<v Speaker 1>can be heard on multiple cameras and microphone screaming taser, taser,

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>doing the footage before saying, holy s I shot him

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and apologized immediately. That's that's what's officers. If that if

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that bitch had a gun in her face, she's gonna

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 1>know what's gun to pull out. They don't never make

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that mistake. They don't Amber Geiger didn't mistakenly pull out

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>her taser when she was going into her house. It's

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>never the opposite. But now that's the cover up. That

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is complete bullshit. There's no way around it. I'm complete

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care what the news report. I don't

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>care what the body cam say. That bitch was on

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the mission to kill somebody black. Can I tell the

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>bash to call me because if she want to go

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>toe to toe, gun to gun, Because I think I

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>think I will say this because of the the climate

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of Minnesota, what's happening around this Derek Chauvin trial. I

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>think that in a lot of ways, police are on

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>a more of a heightened alert. In a lot of ways,

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>she might try to say, like, oh, I felt like

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I was in danger because here we go, here's another

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 1>black man. We have this, you know, Derek Chauvin trial

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is going on. She that might be the temperament of

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>what the police department is right now. That's not in

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>no way saying that that justifies her doing that. But

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that also goes to us saying, you need to actually

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>have well trained officers in these situations to de escalate it.

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And as a senior officer, you still chose to pull

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the wrong weapon bullshit. Like you said, Mark, you're a

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>senior officer. You were supposed to be trained to de

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>escalate these situations, not heighten them. Because if you're insecurity

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>as an officer on the job, that's not our problem,

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>your officer. You've pulled your gun out more times and

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:56.959
<v Speaker 1>I have shot any of my guns. And like I said,

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>put me in a dark room with ten guns, I

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>can point out the fourth of our mind. Would you

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>pick out mind gun? Out them? Four? Though? Could you

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>pick you pick out my gun? Is the question? But

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>this is laughing learn so we're laughing, you know, Mark,

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.399
<v Speaker 1>It's such a heavy conversation. I just want to bring

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it back a little bit because I'm I'm emotional. You emotional.

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Lord angry Nicholas has giving us all these things that

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>these people say. I'm telling you something. I don't care

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>what that lady said. If when you all become parents

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and all you all that millions of dollars in the

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine million dollars, none of that will suffice bring

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>it back your loved one. And whether that's whether you're

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>a parent or you know, it could be your brother,

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>your mom, your dad, whomever. It is. Nothing, none of

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that money will suffice having that person back. And look

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in your argument that you made last week about you know,

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the service calling your son. When I saw that story

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, the first thing that came in my

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:56.879
<v Speaker 1>head is that we just had this conversation last week

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's just I mean, an army medic, like you

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>see that this man is in uniform, and you were

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>acting like a complete you know what, you know what uniform?

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>He saw that man mark black, his black skin. That's

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 1>what exactly what he saw him means. And here's the thing,

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>he's a Hispanic officer. People forget where they come from

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>in the old oppression that they face in their mark.

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>You didn't open up an that's what That's what. It

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't matter that he was Latino or that he all

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:35.479
<v Speaker 1>they saw. And you know, Latinos come in different hues.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>They come just like we come from all Like was

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like Baskin Robbins, he saw black. He didn't ask the man.

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>He just fucking saw black. He didn't see the uniform

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>he saw black. But this if Mark opened up the

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>candle worms, if we're gonna go here. Part of the

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>issue I will say for the Latino community specifically, like

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>when they when you are immigrating to this country and

0:48:58.160 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Mark police feel free to step in at any point

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 1>or if you want to correct me if I'm wrong,

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>But this is what I have. I have friends that

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I work with that are actually still trying to obtain

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>status here coming here. Part of the process when you

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have to check off with your ethnicity is for instance,

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>when you come to this country, if you're you know,

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>immigrating from another there's no box for you to check

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>off Hispanic or Latino. The only kind of box option

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is for them to check white. So in a lot

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of ways, you have this underlying systemic racism within the

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Latino community where they're basically being dehumanized and stripped of

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>their identity because they have to assimilate with this white culture.

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And then it only perpetuates when you have some of

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>these Latino officers that come onto police department or on

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the fire department or there are there you have you

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to assimilate with their counterparts, not realizing

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>that you are still a person of color. And then

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you get an officer like a Joe Gutierrez who feels

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in his spirit that he has this white privilege autonomy

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to treat another officer, um, you know, in the military

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this way. So it's a perpetual side cool. Honestly, that's

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>probably I don't ever see being broken. But that's part

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>of the issue here. It is also I think it's

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>people again. They don't people don't take uh, they don't

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 1>view life outside of their own experiences. And when I

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>say that, you would think that this Hispanic officer could

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>relate with somebody else who's of color in this country.

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>But he didn't. He wasn't even thinking that big he

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was it was this is a black man, not think

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 1>he's another person of color. It's just again, he didn't

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>care that this person shared a similar experience probably being

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 1>in America as a person of color. He just saw

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that this person was, like you said, black, and people

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>just they they forget about Um. I don't know, they're

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>not human. To my opinion, I don't see these people

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>as human. That's just well, you know, Mike, what Lawrence

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>said about the Latino people that with them having to

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.399
<v Speaker 1>pick and choose a say. Some of that is very

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>true because look at when brand, you know, and all

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:05.439
<v Speaker 1>the Cubans Marco Rubio, Yeah, all the Cubans voted Trump.

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>They all went conservative. But they now, you know, they're

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.040
<v Speaker 1>jumping man way and they jumping ship. But now they

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>want to switch, not switch over to the Democrat. But

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.839
<v Speaker 1>now they're not holding Trump accountable. And they all got

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 1>step of the checks. And I see it because I

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>probably sent a couple of amounts. They got stimuli these

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>checks and they catch their check. I know, to that

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.879
<v Speaker 1>sound off topic, y'all on me to sound off topic,

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 1>just sounding real crazy right now. But I know some

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of that Tino people. I know some of Latino people

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 1>personally that do not identify as well. Yeah, well I

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:40.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say it like that, but they identify

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:44.959
<v Speaker 1>as white. And I'm like, you know what someone said,

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>they trained the human ebing. She said they trained the

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 1>human out of all police. And I think that is

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>an interesting time. It goes back to this culture of

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>policing because it is it's not a war necessarily between

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>people of color and police. It's literally this problem with

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:05.799
<v Speaker 1>police and African Americans in this country. Um, and you've

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>seen it with the mix officer in the George Floyd incident.

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You know he was there, he witnessed it. It's it's

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.840
<v Speaker 1>literally a mentality and it's I don't know how we

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 1>rooted out because politics comes is as part of this,

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:28.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's so deep and it's such a complicated history.

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's ever going to change. How

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 1>do you change it? You can, it's impossible to go

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.760
<v Speaker 1>into every police department. Sure you can start with unions

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and stuff of that sort, but it's impossible to go

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>into every police department and reform them. I mean the

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Minneapolis Police Department. Their chief is a black man and

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>he still has this stuff going on in his own department.

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 1>So what is what is there? What can be done?

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And how he is in Minnesota and he is a

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 1>chief of police and he's a black man with very

0:52:55.840 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 1>limited power. Understand what that is? That is limited? That's

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>called limited power. I don't even funk what his title

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 1>is or how he identifies, but his title is his.

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>His his responsibilities are limited from people above him. And

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you he is dancing the dance to keep

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.720
<v Speaker 1>his job, which I just said, baby, he is dancing

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the dance to keep his job. And I'm not beating

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 1>him up because he's not the one on trial here.

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>He's not the one who pulled the gun out and

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:25.399
<v Speaker 1>did all the boys ship. That was the opposite down there.

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I just think that it's so sad the young man was.

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the whole scenario. I don't know if

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>he was in trouble. I don't know he what what

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>was going on. But let me just wait a minute. Yes,

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 1>this part I do matter, and I know this. You

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 1>know this laughing learned the nigga was faying. Can I

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 1>just say that he was? That boy was so handsome?

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? That done hurt more? Is that? Or

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>is it? Me? Doesn't hurt more when they're good looking? No,

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean not for me. It hurts in general. Look

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>at her trying to play a girl. Now she want

0:53:55.640 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to be a girl. It's interesting. Why do we go this, Uh,

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this conversation will always happened. It's like, well, okay, it

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of makes it less of an impact. If this

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 1>person had a warrant or if they were fighting, it's

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 1>like they didn't deserve that treat. Well, that's what they do. Mark.

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>If this is what we were talking about with George Floyd.

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Derek Shelman is not on trial George floydal this is

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 1>how they do us. This is the system that is

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>set up for us to fail and lose. And I'm

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the last thing I'm gonna say speaking of the George

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Floyd trial. Again, we've talked about the judge. Everyone pay

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>attention to the prosecution looks. In my opinion, they look

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>scared of this judge. Every time they ask a question,

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 1>they glance at the judge as if like is that okay?

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Like am I about to get in trouble. I've never

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 1>seen Eric, who's the defense attorney. I've never seen him

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>look to the judge unless there's an objection by the

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>prosecution that the judge overrules. That's the only time he

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>looks at the judge other than that he's comfortable with

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>his cross examination. But the prosecut ushion, especially the black prosecutor,

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>looks intimidated as hell by this judge. And to me,

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>that is a problem. We just power Mark. I'm telling you,

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 1>we we still have to, as they say, we still

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.840
<v Speaker 1>need to know our place. We still have to. It

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.800
<v Speaker 1>is sounds, it sounds ridiculous to say in one, but

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>baby looked like it's more prevalent now than it was

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:27.879
<v Speaker 1>in seventy four. Oh. I think that's the sad part

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>is that we're still living in the same reality. That's

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the sad part, that we have to acknowledge what's really changed,

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>what's changed? Uh, Nicolas, you're very quiet on this conversation.

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>You know you all haven't handled you know, I stay

0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:46.919
<v Speaker 1>in my lane. What lane is that? What lane is that? Mark?

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. You know we appreciate you as

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>always by Mark. Yeah it, Nicolas, it's just this hiding

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to me that twenty years old, he has such a

0:55:57.320 --> 0:56:00.879
<v Speaker 1>bright future. It's scary. Should I gotta baby? That makes

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>me think about my son going to Tennessee. Now, I

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell him, you can't leave off campus. You stay

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:08.399
<v Speaker 1>on campus. I told you. Being in that climate, it's

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>no different. My mom had to have a conversation for

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>me when I went to Georgia. I went to spellming,

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but that's still Georgia was different then I was in

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>school when Donald Trump got elected. Okay, so hey, vesper,

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But I do think Lauren, just to touch on that,

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I do think that there's a familiar comfort that comes

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>with being at an HBCU that it is a family

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that you tend to look out for one another. That's

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 1>where I feel like Jamacus will thrive in that environment,

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, away from home, but you still on campus,

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>on campus absolutely, because that's I'm sorry, Vesper, We're gonna

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:43.719
<v Speaker 1>get to you in just a second. Being out of HBCU,

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you're definitely in a bubble like I was in the

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta University Center. You got Clark, you got more house,

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you have you know, Morris Brown, Spellman. We're a tight

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 1>knit family. It's like being in a bubble. It's when

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you step outside of that and you go, oh, I'm

0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 1>still in a Southern state. That's when you have that realization. So,

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:02.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean in Floe and I have kind of talked

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 1>about that offline to JaMarcus is going to Tennessee. He's

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 1>got to be careful, he has to be hi that Sper,

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 1>how are you no? But I understand what you're talking

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 1>about because you know, I'm from Atlanta, and I'm in Atlanta,

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know downtown Atlanta. I mean, it's inside too,

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>is so aggressive. It's more progressive than California, you know.

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>But then as soon as you get outside of two

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 1>eighty five, it's like hit or miss. You could run

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 1>into a Trump supporter and a hardcore socialist and the

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 1>same walking up, you know, down the sidewalk. Yeah. Absolutely.

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, the thing that's bothering me the most about

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.440
<v Speaker 1>all of this, you know, with all of these these

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 1>shootings is the lack of empathy. Like, you know, none

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>of none of this makes sense. Police officers are not

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to interpret the law, they aren't to enforce the law.

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know all this talk about good people with guns, Well,

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 1>when if the police showed us that they actually are

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>good people with guns, Like maybe we just need to

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>do like the UK. They don't like Honestly, they don't

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 1>need guns. And if they're too afraid to do their

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>job without a gun, then they don't need to be

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 1>doing their job. It is right there there, It is

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>right there best. And that's why I've been saying for

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 1>all the whole time. They'll keep giving cowards guns, y'all.

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And gave look crazy Johnny, Look crazy Ray Ray, who

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't terrorize the whole family and everybody, But now y'all,

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>but the uncle is a police officer, so he helped

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>him get the job and y'all have released this idiot

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:36.919
<v Speaker 1>on the world to us and who don't like black

0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 1>people or who don't like people with a darker hue

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 1>because you ain't necessarily gonna be black because the lieutenant

0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>was not black, he just had a dark hue. And

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this too. This is not to say that

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>all police officers are bad, because I don't want to

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 1>paint that narrative on the show either. My uncle is

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>recently retired police officer. My grandfather was a police officer

0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>also on l AP, so there are some good police

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>officers that actually do their job correctly. We don't want

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to paint that narrative either. However, there is a huge

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:08.920
<v Speaker 1>issue because even with those black officers that are on

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the job, there's still racism in hazing and other things

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that they have to fight. We still need to have

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>police reform at the end of the day. And this

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is coming from a niece who, like I said, I

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>have an uncle that just retired. My father works for

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the fire department. That's a whole another animal. So there

0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>has to be some type of reform that happens. Because

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Flame has said it, vest for you have said it.

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 1>We have these white officers that are going into these

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>rural neighborhoods that are one that are scared seven and

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to de escalate situations best for you.

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Also said too in the UK they don't even use

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>guns and they actually know how to disarm somebody with

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>a weapon without having to you know, fire a gun.

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 1>So something has to be done. At this point two

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:52.680
<v Speaker 1>d shootings is only April, two hundred officers involved shooting.

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Something's got to happen. I have a suggestion. I think

0:59:57.480 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that they should have the lieutenant who just de escalated

0:59:59.880 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole situation but still got Pepper's played. They should

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 1>let him teach a class to the police on he handled.

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<v Speaker 1>He handed that situation like sher and the Underwood handled

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Sharon Osborne situation. He handled that situation. But the problem

1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>is we have this class and then what happens Nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing happens because we end up with the police officers

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<v Speaker 1>have a mentality because of our culture. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>just a police culture, it's the culture in America that

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<v Speaker 1>when you see someone that is a darker hue, that

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<v Speaker 1>automatically we're biased, all of us, myself included, to assume

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<v Speaker 1>danger and you know it takes personal responsibility to overlook that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, they've done studies on this. Black officers,

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<v Speaker 1>white officers, they all shoot black people the same amount.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not really a race thing. It's a police

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<v Speaker 1>mentality thing. It's a cultural thing that we all have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And you know, to your point, Lauren, you

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<v Speaker 1>asked what is different. The biggest thing that's different now

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<v Speaker 1>is we're aware. Before paid attention it was happening, but

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<v Speaker 1>nobody paid attention. The difference now is everybody's paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time it happens, it goes viral, it becomes a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So as long as we keep that awareness, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>eventually change. But we have to keep pushing. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep coming up with ideas and pushing good ideas

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<v Speaker 1>because the stuff that we're doing now is an old

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<v Speaker 1>way of doing things that does no longer service. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do better. We have to be more loving,

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<v Speaker 1>We have to promote empathy, and we have to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we remove the situation from ever being a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility by removing their guns, by putting those officers that

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<v Speaker 1>discharge their weapons on desk duty for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>their career, that will that will make them think twice

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<v Speaker 1>before they put that gun out, because none of them

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<v Speaker 1>they should be fined, a pension should be tripped. And

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<v Speaker 1>you did make that first point. You made investment when

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<v Speaker 1>you what did you say? You just said it again, empathy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason we don't seem to have empathies vestment because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many shootings and look like it has become commonplace.

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<v Speaker 1>We have almost become complacent with this. Oh another one, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>another one. You know you're hearing, you're like wow, even

1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 1>when his kids or old people, wow. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>just go about your day and like like nothing. That

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<v Speaker 1>that that that's how we have been. It's ingrained in

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<v Speaker 1>to us because it's been happening so much and not

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<v Speaker 1>just now. They're trying to make it look like it's

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<v Speaker 1>more now because I already know what the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my conspiracy theory is they're trying to make it more

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<v Speaker 1>prevalent now so inwo they can say that the world

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<v Speaker 1>was safer on the Trump's watch than under Biden's watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that at all. They just showing more

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<v Speaker 1>than the shootings. The shootings were still happening under Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean on the Trump's administration that he just did

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<v Speaker 1>so much other ridiculous ship that sometimes the shooting didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make the news because he did ridiculous ship on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like when Caitlin killed the white

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<v Speaker 1>woman didn't want to got titties, and the titties superseded

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<v Speaker 1>her becoming. Yeah, let me just say what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the titties superseded the murder. This is what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>we have become. It's just like, Wow, Lauren. If Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>would have walked to the door today said four kids

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<v Speaker 1>get shot right here on the street, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it thor say oh my god, are

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<v Speaker 1>they man? And then I would have came in the

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<v Speaker 1>house and then, laughing, learned like it was nothing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that like I'm disregarded, But this is

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<v Speaker 1>how we are right now. This is where the country is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're saying. We're all desensitized to it

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<v Speaker 1>because we've seen it so much that that's it. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about it is, I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm gonna open up a can of worms. And

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that this laughing larn open it, damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're ready over since Obama, the numbers, the FBI numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of officers involved shootings against white people has actually increased

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<v Speaker 1>and surpassed the number of black people. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that the Proud Boys and all those racist motherfucker's

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<v Speaker 1>love to use as a talking point that, oh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>shooting white White lives matter because they're shooting white people more. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my thing. If they're shooting white people more, then

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<v Speaker 1>that is a definite reason that they need to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of black lives matter, because if they're

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<v Speaker 1>shooting white people, they're shooting black people. They're like, if anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of their color of skin, is getting shot by

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<v Speaker 1>the police, it can happen to anyone. And now we

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<v Speaker 1>actually have factual, scientific evidence of the numbers that they

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<v Speaker 1>are shooting everyone. So like, none of this makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We are desensitized to it. But the fact is there's

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<v Speaker 1>no excuse for anyone to say, oh, this is normal

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<v Speaker 1>and this is okay. And they're out there right now

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<v Speaker 1>protesting some White Lives Matter protests. Well, if y'all cared

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<v Speaker 1>about white life, you're about taking away the police's guns

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<v Speaker 1>so they can't. Well, on another note to that, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was funny. I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>saw this video. There was a White Lives Matter rally

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<v Speaker 1>at Trump Tower in New York UM this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>There was this Nazi there and the New York City

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<v Speaker 1>Police actually escorted him out very peacefully and then hailed

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<v Speaker 1>a cab for him so he got home safely. So

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<v Speaker 1>just showing you the differences, there was a White Lives

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<v Speaker 1>There was a White Lives Matter rally this weekend in

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<v Speaker 1>Huntington Beach, California. You know, so they're popping up all

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<v Speaker 1>that's right up the street. Flay, I was thinking the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, and Huntington Beach is actually pretty nice. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the here's the caveat Lauren, to your point, they

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<v Speaker 1>were outnumbered by those who live in Huntington Beach and said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, not here, We're not doing this, or they

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down because the those who were there support

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<v Speaker 1>White Lives Matter were outnumbered by those who were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what permit you have, you're shutting this down.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't do this here, so let's go and and yep,

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough. I will say, though Vesper, I do appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your optimistic viewpoint. I think that that's still important for

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<v Speaker 1>us to have in times like the US. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to state the facts and understand the crisis that

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<v Speaker 1>we're in, but I think it's still good when we

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<v Speaker 1>have those optimistic views. So thank you, and I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave you all with one note, like, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't change other people, and if we keep trying, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just wasting our energy. The only people we can change

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<v Speaker 1>is ourselves. So if we make ourselves better and continue

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<v Speaker 1>to have these conversations, eventually people will catch on. That's

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<v Speaker 1>let me just give your heads up to my flame mats.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm building the arc in my backyard because I know

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<v Speaker 1>he coming back, and I'm then y'all know we I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not taking the two animals. I don't like working with

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<v Speaker 1>flies and none of that. I don't care, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will take two people though, So y'all need to just

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<v Speaker 1>speak out who going on because I'm gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people with me, because I'm telling you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to end racism, God's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>start it all over again. I truly believe he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to eradicate the entire planet and we start

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<v Speaker 1>all over again. That means I won't be here. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I get my art, depending on how much money

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<v Speaker 1>i'll get, and if you cute, i'll let you ran

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<v Speaker 1>we'll shoot. That's what the Lord did, uh no with Moses.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember he made them stay in the desert for forty

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<v Speaker 1>years to get rid of everybody. Yet, you know, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to geto. It has to be That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way I can see it going. I'll do over.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to do a duo, and we know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's virtually impossible unless you watch two thousand and eleven

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates interview. Uh yeah, okay, thank you besper. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>Miss t t Jan, I am cracking up. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't doing ship, so my behavior is fine. We

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<v Speaker 1>love you T g Jan so much. That was funny. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I will say on this last note is

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<v Speaker 1>I really do I know sometimes we criticize the media

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<v Speaker 1>on this show, but I will say that the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference that was held in um Minnesota after Dante right shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate all of the reporters that were in that

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<v Speaker 1>room because they asked the questions that needed to be asked,

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<v Speaker 1>and they called the police chief out when he was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>when he tried to say, well, there was a riot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said it wasn't a right, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful protest. Then those are the folks that you attacked,

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<v Speaker 1>and they retaliated again and shoe and that led to

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<v Speaker 1>the diluting and all of these different things that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>They even said that they threw a tear gas bomb

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<v Speaker 1>that almost you know, hit an apartment building that could

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<v Speaker 1>have affected a whole bunch of people. So I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that the media did an outstanding job

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<v Speaker 1>in that press conference and asking that police chief and

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<v Speaker 1>correcting him when he was wrong. So, oh, Nick, before

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna move on, let's give let me give an

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledgement to the mayor t J And what's her name,

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<v Speaker 1>first black female mayor of St. Louis. She just won

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<v Speaker 1>the election, uh last week, so I can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>her name. Jan is on here, she'll say it, but

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<v Speaker 1>she just won. So hats off to her because we

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<v Speaker 1>are still moving forward in spaces. So with all the

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<v Speaker 1>negative and all the bad that we see black folks

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<v Speaker 1>and even look Crusen, what's her name to Shanna Jones?

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<v Speaker 1>That's her name, that's her name to Shanna Jones who

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<v Speaker 1>just won and t Jan was on Comfee time the

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<v Speaker 1>other day to Shara, I want to make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>give her the right shout out to Shara. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>she pronounced it to Shara. Okay, congratulations to to Shara

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<v Speaker 1>Jones in um Uh St. Louis for becoming the first

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<v Speaker 1>black female mayor. We are moving forward to black people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just said another black women, black women, black

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<v Speaker 1>women right now for the last at least two three

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<v Speaker 1>years that we and well not for the last two

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<v Speaker 1>three years, for such a long time, but now they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting the recognition that they deserve. Let me say that

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<v Speaker 1>correctly because I want to get slapped. Lawrence sit right

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<v Speaker 1>next to me. You know, she takes jiu jitsu with

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<v Speaker 1>ship Uh have really stepped up and they're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more praise, a lot more accoldes, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more notoriety because of their work that they have been

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<v Speaker 1>doing consistently for ship how many years since since the

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<v Speaker 1>Vagina Monica? What the Vagina monologue say? Black women built

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<v Speaker 1>this country. Black women built this country. Talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say though, on that note, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>we maybe maybe pushing the clock a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>we say we have about ten minutes left, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can end this episode on a lighter note for

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<v Speaker 1>the black community. So Nick, I'm saying that because I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to segue into l A County. UH is

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<v Speaker 1>in the process of trying to return the land that

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<v Speaker 1>was stolen from a black family actually in um Manhattan Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking to return the property back to the original owners,

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<v Speaker 1>who was actually a black family who had Manhattan Beach

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<v Speaker 1>stolen from them. I hope their last name is Parker Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me, Nick, do you have the article in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you so we can get the names of the owner.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Bruce's Beach owner could get Manhattan Beach land

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<v Speaker 1>back under a plan, the descendants of the black family

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<v Speaker 1>that once owned a thriving ocean front resort in Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>Beach could get the property back under state legislation announced

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. Backers of the proposal, which will be introduced

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<v Speaker 1>by state Senator Stephen Bradford of Gardenia, said the first

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<v Speaker 1>step towards correcting the historican justice that was sees the

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<v Speaker 1>resort of Charles and Will Bruce and Forest Black Beach

1:11:02.080 --> 1:11:06.080
<v Speaker 1>coors out of town years ago. Oh well, this is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother just said that Manhattan Beach City Council voted No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Um, well, we'll follow this more.

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<v Speaker 1>But shoot it, I was trying to end on a

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<v Speaker 1>light note, but I guess not anymore. Um but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think still just this whole process though, of

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<v Speaker 1>even considering forms of reparations. I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>least that can be done, because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>land across this country that was stolen from specifically black communities.

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<v Speaker 1>We can even take it to a history lesson of

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to Central Park in New York that was

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<v Speaker 1>actually called Seneca Village. That was a very Seneca village

1:11:41.600 --> 1:11:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that was a very popular, affluent black community that had

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<v Speaker 1>literally pushed all these black folks out so that way

1:11:48.280 --> 1:11:50.679
<v Speaker 1>they can build Central Park. So if we're gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about reparations and giving back what is owed, I

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<v Speaker 1>am all for this and it needs to happen more

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<v Speaker 1>across this country. So what do you think would be

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<v Speaker 1>fair reparation is? Now? Seriously, well, shoot, Manhattan Beach is

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<v Speaker 1>worth seventy two million dollars, So um, let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>the value of the land is, and then we can

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<v Speaker 1>determine what the reparation status should be. There's seventy two

1:12:11.560 --> 1:12:14.000
<v Speaker 1>million those Bruces where their last name used to be

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<v Speaker 1>Parker and the change over the Bruce. I'm asking com

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<v Speaker 1>run me a check. I take it. Guess about reparations,

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<v Speaker 1>I've honestly I thought about that. I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>the I think that one of the greatest equalizers is education, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that one should be able to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a public school and have the same quality education

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<v Speaker 1>as a student that goes to a private school. So

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<v Speaker 1>if there are some way to make that equitable across communities,

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<v Speaker 1>across different demographics, I think that would be an excellent

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<v Speaker 1>place to start when we're talking about reparations. In all honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>that if you can get every kid to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to learn with the same enthusiasm, have the same resources,

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<v Speaker 1>have all the same amenities that they have in the

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<v Speaker 1>better zip codes, I think that that is a great

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<v Speaker 1>place to start. I think that's nice and not I

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<v Speaker 1>don't disagree with you on that, Nick, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that land is more important. And I'll just say that

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<v Speaker 1>because of the like the generational wealth and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that the black folks just weren't afforded in this country

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<v Speaker 1>having a place to be able to call home and

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<v Speaker 1>like this is your place where you can stay. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about things like homelessness and poverty,

1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know where you're gonna eat, health and wellness.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of that is just encompass you. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many different disparities that are encompass with land specifically. So

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<v Speaker 1>while education, yes, is important, but being able to have

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<v Speaker 1>a place that's called your own, that you know is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be taken away from you, that you

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<v Speaker 1>can pass on from generation to generation, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>more vital honestly at this point in time because of

1:13:47.600 --> 1:13:49.519
<v Speaker 1>the country they were living in, Lauren, I just feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like education is the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>can't be taken away. Like I have friends who owned

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<v Speaker 1>property in Sonoma County on Windsor and they suffered through

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<v Speaker 1>those wildfires last year and they've got they still own

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<v Speaker 1>that burnt out brush of land, but the homes that

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<v Speaker 1>they had that they grew up in, that their grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>built and all of that. And I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>negating that. I understand that they want to hold onto

1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:12.439
<v Speaker 1>that property, but there's something about being educated and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're better than your circumstances, and knowing that anything

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<v Speaker 1>is possible, that that just can't be stripped. You can

1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:20.960
<v Speaker 1>strip away property and you can't take that with you.

1:14:21.280 --> 1:14:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But there's something about that burning fire of knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to learn and just that hunger that I think

1:14:26.680 --> 1:14:31.200
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely invaluable, so that every kid believes that you

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<v Speaker 1>know well, I mean, I hear you, um, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>just my opinion. I think land is at the is

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<v Speaker 1>at the forefront of it because to have something that's yours,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have highly we talked about veterans in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>We have all of these highly educated you know, you went,

1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:46.599
<v Speaker 1>you fought for your country and all these different things.

1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:48.439
<v Speaker 1>You came back to nothing. You had nothing, so you

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<v Speaker 1>end up being homeless, you end up not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to afford to you know, eat, you end up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your health is in crisis and you can't get you know, assistance.

1:14:56.439 --> 1:14:59.280
<v Speaker 1>So there's I don't know, that's that's just for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that encompasses the most reparations. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to check. I steal with my forty acres at them.

1:15:05.600 --> 1:15:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Then they promised us forty acres at the meal. We

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<v Speaker 1>still wait on it. Spike Lee said, that's what. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, look forty acres. And I'm actually wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>Spike Lee jersey today, so that's funny. Yes, it says

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<v Speaker 1>forty acres. He get his forty acres and his meal. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Spike Lee just got his first oscar a couple of

1:15:24.240 --> 1:15:26.160
<v Speaker 1>years ago, so shoot, how many how long has he

1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:30.519
<v Speaker 1>been making movies? Anyway, that's another conversation. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what would would be fair with reparations that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is gonna sound real fucked up, y'all, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it anyway. Y'all know, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They make money. It's not like it's grown. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's like bananas that's grown on a tree

1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:46.400
<v Speaker 1>or fruit. They make money. Money is printed. You can

1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:49.840
<v Speaker 1>make enough. This is what drives your economy. And yet

1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:52.639
<v Speaker 1>they have shown us clearly with this whole stimulus ship

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<v Speaker 1>that if they want to prove something, they can click

1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:59.000
<v Speaker 1>one button and checks will go into accounts immediately. Everyone

1:15:59.160 --> 1:16:02.120
<v Speaker 1>in this country should be doing better. Give everybody a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars to whatever it takes. Because I hear you, Nicklas,

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<v Speaker 1>with the education, you know how many millionaire and billionaire

1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.559
<v Speaker 1>rappers that we have now that have never had an education.

1:16:13.120 --> 1:16:16.719
<v Speaker 1>They were slinging on the streets. They they found their joy,

1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:19.439
<v Speaker 1>they found their talent, they found their voice, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they are billionaires and millionaires and power brokers and money

1:16:22.920 --> 1:16:25.240
<v Speaker 1>makers and woo woo. And they didn't go to college.

1:16:25.680 --> 1:16:28.799
<v Speaker 1>But they hustle, hustle, hustle. So giving people the education,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand exactly what you're saying. But if the driver

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<v Speaker 1>is not in that person and the hustle is not

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<v Speaker 1>in them, they're gonna have the education, and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a piece of paper that sits on the wall

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<v Speaker 1>in a planque forever. They ain't gonna do ship with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a point. I gotta agree with you. That

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<v Speaker 1>person got to have a fire. The fire got to

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<v Speaker 1>be in your ass before I'm giving you an opportunity

1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to put you in the school. You got to want

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<v Speaker 1>I can't want it for you. You have to want

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<v Speaker 1>it yourself. And everybody don't do that, Nicklas, and that,

1:16:57.560 --> 1:17:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, black, white, young, old, everybody just don't have that.

1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Some people have a drive. You had a drive, you

1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>knew you wanted to go to school. I remember you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that when you we were young, you was

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<v Speaker 1>going to school no matter what. And you we had

1:17:09.520 --> 1:17:13.280
<v Speaker 1>we both had adversities and obstacles to crawl over. But

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go to school. You did. You

1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:18.840
<v Speaker 1>went to school, You had the school drive. Everybody doesn't

1:17:18.840 --> 1:17:20.920
<v Speaker 1>have that. So affording them the opportunity, you don't mean

1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:23.360
<v Speaker 1>not give them something where they can make something of

1:17:23.439 --> 1:17:25.719
<v Speaker 1>what they want to do to find their joy. Because

1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:29.439
<v Speaker 1>everybody ain't for school. Everybody. Education is just not for everyone.

1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:32.120
<v Speaker 1>That does not mean that they won't be successful in life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna open this up to you. Guys are

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in one more flame. Matter, do you guys want

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap up? Hey, jan I wish I could say

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<v Speaker 1>correct and my behavior is the core of the problem,

1:17:46.240 --> 1:17:49.479
<v Speaker 1>or would make the problem less than the problem. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good with my behavior and that is not put

1:17:52.439 --> 1:17:57.120
<v Speaker 1>down to anybody. But I am emotionally beaten by the

1:17:57.280 --> 1:18:02.960
<v Speaker 1>subject of being beaten by my color or just because

1:18:03.040 --> 1:18:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of my color. Um and and and and and it's

1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:11.479
<v Speaker 1>all the more troubling that we can't even comfort one another,

1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I can't say to a

1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:20.720
<v Speaker 1>young black man, um, well, this too shall pass. Just

1:18:20.920 --> 1:18:24.040
<v Speaker 1>be sure you don't argue with the police. You can't

1:18:24.120 --> 1:18:31.240
<v Speaker 1>say any of that. You just can't offer any resolution. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know it's a shame because this is nothing new.

1:18:37.160 --> 1:18:40.880
<v Speaker 1>This behavior is nothing new. Cell Phones are putting it

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<v Speaker 1>out there more, social media is putting it out there more.

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<v Speaker 1>But we all know this is no new behavior of

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<v Speaker 1>the police department has a code amongst themselves or are brethering.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the reason you see a lot of their

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<v Speaker 1>Fraternal Order presidents be like baby Hitler because they run

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<v Speaker 1>on this code. And for the most part, all you

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<v Speaker 1>had were a bunch of rejects going to the police

1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:15.800
<v Speaker 1>depart and and because the uncle sir, then they brought

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<v Speaker 1>in the useless nephew and gave him an opportunity not

1:19:22.200 --> 1:19:25.880
<v Speaker 1>look crazy, Johnny, look the dogs, the cat tail on

1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:29.200
<v Speaker 1>fight and ship look crazy one right now. Generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>because I like you, um, Lauren, we have a family

1:19:33.680 --> 1:19:39.479
<v Speaker 1>of military and police officers. But when we get involved, Nick,

1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:42.920
<v Speaker 1>thank you for your service. When we get involved, we're

1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>getting involved on the level of being all we can

1:19:46.080 --> 1:19:49.760
<v Speaker 1>be doing a good job. You've just thrown into this

1:19:49.960 --> 1:19:53.759
<v Speaker 1>mess to do damage control or things wigh more heavily

1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:56.519
<v Speaker 1>on you, because you've got some people who are just

1:19:56.840 --> 1:20:00.559
<v Speaker 1>using this as a means to be nasty to thoughts.

1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, these people would be useless and would find

1:20:04.920 --> 1:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>some way to be racist, even if they were sanitation engineers.

1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:16.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just something within them. What happens. I think because

1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the cultures are their younger folks are sucking up our community.

1:20:22.120 --> 1:20:25.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what's going to shift it a little bit. Trump

1:20:25.240 --> 1:20:28.400
<v Speaker 1>made it very popular to come out as a racist.

1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, their children want

1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to be with our children. Their children want to listen

1:20:35.960 --> 1:20:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to our music. We get to a certain level where

1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>even our community starts giving a head nod and we

1:20:45.920 --> 1:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>start calling what they're doing as they're trying to mimic

1:20:50.080 --> 1:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>us as having a hustle. You know, you can't fault

1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:55.880
<v Speaker 1>them for having a hustle. They're trying to pick up

1:20:55.920 --> 1:20:58.880
<v Speaker 1>our community. They don't want to struggle. They want how

1:20:59.040 --> 1:21:03.200
<v Speaker 1>we buff all their edges off of us and present

1:21:03.320 --> 1:21:06.679
<v Speaker 1>ourselves so they pick and choose. So it's a shame.

1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not your behavior, it's not my behavior at all.

1:21:11.320 --> 1:21:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm still going to commend uh the police officers in

1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the military because I know largely, it's not those people

1:21:21.600 --> 1:21:24.519
<v Speaker 1>who are trying to do the right thing. It's just

1:21:24.760 --> 1:21:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like the guy who was in intelligence and his wife

1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:32.720
<v Speaker 1>went to the Capitol and she got killed. He was like,

1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know what made her do that,

1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I'm not just like he didn't have

1:21:38.400 --> 1:21:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to relax or step away from his duties. I'm not

1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:48.840
<v Speaker 1>shouldering anybody's anybody's damage whatsoever. This community will take the

1:21:48.960 --> 1:21:52.920
<v Speaker 1>words of of people who have some money, and we

1:21:53.080 --> 1:21:56.759
<v Speaker 1>start letting them talk for us and to study being quieter,

1:21:57.040 --> 1:22:01.759
<v Speaker 1>getting on issues from ass root folks who have been working.

1:22:02.040 --> 1:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>They just make these these these big old brushstroke statements

1:22:06.120 --> 1:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and their clueles. We're the only community that let the

1:22:10.360 --> 1:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>p ditties and the cube make statements, you know. So

1:22:14.680 --> 1:22:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot to fight. But I think as we

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<v Speaker 1>just stand in our truth who we are, and we

1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>gotta keep our heads on the swivel. But it's taxing.

1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my son called me today, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell me the weight of a taser? Make

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<v Speaker 1>it make sense to me? And I had to let

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<v Speaker 1>him make full circle with his reasoning because there's no

1:22:37.800 --> 1:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>way he was trying to challenge me and my even

1:22:41.600 --> 1:22:45.920
<v Speaker 1>temperament because he wants to have the ship. I had

1:22:46.000 --> 1:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to talk him out of what she should have been

1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>skilled and anybody trained to de escalate and talk him through,

1:22:55.240 --> 1:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>so that that's all that we are equipped to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And I mean, you can see how Asian America,

1:23:05.520 --> 1:23:09.920
<v Speaker 1>their men fight the women are women in their nail shops.

1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>They if one of our if they feel like one

1:23:12.680 --> 1:23:16.759
<v Speaker 1>of their customer steps out, the man starts immediately fighting

1:23:16.840 --> 1:23:21.639
<v Speaker 1>the woman. So it's almost constantly that we've been put

1:23:22.000 --> 1:23:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in these small characters until they want to dub something

1:23:26.120 --> 1:23:29.439
<v Speaker 1>from us. I want to add on to that TC

1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:32.360
<v Speaker 1>JAM because I think you also touched on a point

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<v Speaker 1>that I I mean, I find it very important. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the fact that we constantly, as black folks in

1:23:38.880 --> 1:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>America or people of color, we constantly have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out like, well, let's try and rationalize is let's like

1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>like how do we make this make sense? And I

1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like that also adds to the mental health issue

1:23:53.040 --> 1:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of us experience because we're putting these

1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>positions of where we have to figure out how to

1:23:57.880 --> 1:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>make it make sense and it's something that doesn't make sense,

1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and that just continues to add on to the perpetual cycle.

1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's also very important for us to

1:24:06.240 --> 1:24:09.599
<v Speaker 1>understand that it's not our responsibility to make it make sense.

1:24:10.280 --> 1:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that burdens shouldn't be honest exactly. I'm hands

1:24:14.479 --> 1:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>down with you on that. It's not my problem to fix.

1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna wake up and be a white woman

1:24:21.000 --> 1:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>with blue eyes. I like being black. It's not me

1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>too when all the time, but I like being black.

1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I love my Melano groom, right. I like being just

1:24:32.080 --> 1:24:34.479
<v Speaker 1>you guy made me. I always say that I'm not

1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>anti and nothing else, but I am pro exactly who

1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:40.679
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm pro black, pro black, trans, pro HIC.

1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:43.519
<v Speaker 1>We pro all that. But you said, Janney, that they

1:24:43.600 --> 1:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>want they want that children want to play without children.

1:24:47.360 --> 1:24:49.599
<v Speaker 1>That's why I always used to say, and I still say,

1:24:50.080 --> 1:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>racism is a learned behavior. Little kids see other little

1:24:54.040 --> 1:24:56.400
<v Speaker 1>kids the same size as them, and if they're not

1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>being told at home or hearing the nigger word, or

1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't play with that person? Was there black? I

1:25:01.080 --> 1:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>see somebody that looked like me, not not physically look

1:25:04.080 --> 1:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like me, but the same size as me, We're gonna

1:25:06.080 --> 1:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>be friends. It's always a parent or who's ever in

1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:11.160
<v Speaker 1>charged to say you can't play with them because they're

1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not like you. What you mean, they're not like me?

1:25:13.120 --> 1:25:15.719
<v Speaker 1>They're the same age as me. They they playing jack's

1:25:15.760 --> 1:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm playing jack's. They're playing jumper jacks like me.

1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:23.519
<v Speaker 1>It is always some idiotic long term racists who hate

1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:26.839
<v Speaker 1>himself or herself that and still let into their children's

1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I e. What's the little boy name that shot the

1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:32.120
<v Speaker 1>people that are doing the ritten house ridden house? I

1:25:32.680 --> 1:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>regularly as mammy who drove him over there to shoot

1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the people, and then the police let him drive let

1:25:37.400 --> 1:25:40.479
<v Speaker 1>her drive him back. But I will say, though, I

1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:44.479
<v Speaker 1>think that the small window of hope though, and TCHJ

1:25:44.560 --> 1:25:46.559
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of said it too, is that it's

1:25:46.600 --> 1:25:49.799
<v Speaker 1>the younger generations that are kind of breaking the cycle

1:25:50.360 --> 1:25:53.439
<v Speaker 1>of the racism being taught in understanding the broader picture,

1:25:53.880 --> 1:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's those folks that are going to be instrumental

1:25:56.280 --> 1:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and really changing the trajectory of how we move forward

1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>at this point. So I think that's also going to

1:26:01.240 --> 1:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>be the key point. You'all love to talk about millennials

1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and who we are, but we're also turning out to

1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>be the ones that got the most sense. So I'm

1:26:09.720 --> 1:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna just say that, you know, some of you guys

1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>go a little too much with hugging the tree. But

1:26:20.280 --> 1:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm well, I know Laurence mama, so let me tell

1:26:24.960 --> 1:26:28.599
<v Speaker 1>you something. It also came from. Like we've been talking about,

1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>who brought her up? Who raised straight up? My mom

1:26:32.360 --> 1:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and my dad. I gotta give shout out to them.

1:26:36.280 --> 1:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But of course, but of course, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you guys are doing the shift and that's

1:26:45.600 --> 1:26:51.719
<v Speaker 1>where it's gonna happen because my behavior is fine because

1:26:51.960 --> 1:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>we owe a fifty T T J and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just this is it, this is it age. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, I thought you were thirty. I said I

1:26:59.600 --> 1:27:03.519
<v Speaker 1>was with identified at thirty. But yeah, you know, this

1:27:03.680 --> 1:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>is identif. But for really, let's be real about this ship.

1:27:08.760 --> 1:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I also identified as a female right now, but I

1:27:11.080 --> 1:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>just pulled my dress up. I hope kid will move

1:27:13.080 --> 1:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that out the way because I got no panties on.

1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Y'all paid for that T shirt with no panties on.

1:27:18.080 --> 1:27:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Bert jaff Thank you so much. You have brought as

1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>always as always, you always delivery information, you always and

1:27:29.040 --> 1:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you're correct. I'm sorry our mayor elect is a Delta,

1:27:34.479 --> 1:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>but a black woman. It's all divine nine. It's okay,

1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>pronounce her name for us, Jane. What's her name? Her

1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>name is to Sharretta Jones Jones. Okay, thank you, Nick,

1:27:44.560 --> 1:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>thank you, thanks go talk to you. Thank me so much.

1:27:47.720 --> 1:27:50.639
<v Speaker 1>That's wage Williams. You'll make sure you'll follow Jan because

1:27:50.720 --> 1:27:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Jan is always knowledgeable and always it's like the Hamlet.

1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you know, Lauren Flame. That's one of the

1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>best things about one that things are opening back up

1:28:01.880 --> 1:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and we will actually get a chance to meet many

1:28:04.160 --> 1:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>of your flame mats in person. Yes, we're going back

1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>on the road, honey, sixteenth. We finally got Delaware fixed.

1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>We're going to the house and laughs. We got everything straight.

1:28:15.800 --> 1:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>And you have your first show in l A. I

1:28:19.360 --> 1:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>have a show with Tiffany Hattish and Huntington Beach. Who

1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you think they could be rioting? You have depending on

1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:30.559
<v Speaker 1>what you wear, you have caused the rioter to now

1:28:30.680 --> 1:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>come on the body. Ain't the saying that the riots

1:28:33.479 --> 1:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>now won't be They won't because I'm sexy, right, It's

1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be like damn she think, baby, I'm gonna

1:28:37.840 --> 1:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you something right now. I had to watch my

1:28:39.640 --> 1:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>six hundred pound life yesterday just to get inspired, not

1:28:42.400 --> 1:28:45.599
<v Speaker 1>to get beat. I didn't watch it. I didn't want

1:28:45.680 --> 1:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you to be like, oh I watched that's one of

1:28:48.160 --> 1:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>them shows that look at you be like God, damn.

1:28:50.160 --> 1:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I promise I gonna get that be here. Sometimes you

1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>need a little reality check. It's okay, but you have

1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>My mama is forre for me. She gives me my

1:28:57.640 --> 1:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>reality check every once in a while. Y'all. Please Donna

1:28:59.800 --> 1:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>say about Lauren on here because Lauren, baby, she'll be

1:29:02.120 --> 1:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>at home patent. Oh my god, this was fun. Thank

1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys so much. I just got here last minute.

1:29:13.080 --> 1:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Good information. All I can tell you guys. My message,

1:29:15.880 --> 1:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna nick Lauren close it out, is whatever

1:29:19.320 --> 1:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>this decision will be with this Derek show. In case,

1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you guys, please be someplace that you are

1:29:26.120 --> 1:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>familiar with that you feel very safe at, because I don't.

1:29:30.560 --> 1:29:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I think I personally think no matter what the decision

1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>will be, the outcome will be not not pleasant. That's

1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:40.599
<v Speaker 1>some of the words I'm gonna say. Not pleasant, because

1:29:40.680 --> 1:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we have people who want him to get off even

1:29:43.920 --> 1:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>though we have watched him murder this man. They still

1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>but They have a lot of people who want him

1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to get off, and we have a lot of people

1:29:51.080 --> 1:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>like us who don't want him to go. We saw them,

1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:55.679
<v Speaker 1>we saw the brutality, we saw the murder in our face.

1:29:56.439 --> 1:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>But this course system is not set up for us

1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and this jilge. It's definitely not favorable towards the darker heat.

1:30:04.680 --> 1:30:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he needs a taser. No, I'm definitely in agreement

1:30:08.439 --> 1:30:10.439
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think that this is a time where

1:30:10.439 --> 1:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>we all need to have a height and awareness and

1:30:12.200 --> 1:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>make sure that we're being safe. Um. I'm more so

1:30:14.520 --> 1:30:17.479
<v Speaker 1>just want to say that I'm very grateful that one

1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that we have this show because I'm just thinking, like,

1:30:20.080 --> 1:30:22.559
<v Speaker 1>for instance, Flame came home today, she was mad at

1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>her kids. I had some other stuff going on work

1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>wise and everything. But I'm glad that we have this

1:30:27.000 --> 1:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>space to share information because I think it's a it's

1:30:29.920 --> 1:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>an outlet for a lot of people that maybe don't have,

1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, the opportunity to do that in their everyday lives.

1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm coming out of this, although we talked about

1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>some heavy subjects today, I'm coming out of this with

1:30:39.520 --> 1:30:41.439
<v Speaker 1>a kind of bit of a weight lifted off my

1:30:41.520 --> 1:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>chest that I was able to, you know, kind of

1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>release on some things. So I'm grateful definitely that we can,

1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>when we have this and when we can kind of,

1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:51.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, engage all of our flamemts to frighten some

1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>people's days. Lauren, I'm so glad you said that, because

1:30:54.000 --> 1:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think when Flame and I started this, we we've

1:30:56.840 --> 1:30:59.719
<v Speaker 1>known each other long enough where we sometimes almost finished

1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>each other sentences. When you joined, it was like a

1:31:03.360 --> 1:31:05.679
<v Speaker 1>breath of fresh air because it brought a different perspective.

1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, WHOA, I didn't think about it that way,

1:31:08.160 --> 1:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and you said it before. You know, we we we

1:31:10.800 --> 1:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>can disagree and we don't have to be disagreeable, and

1:31:13.880 --> 1:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's what the conversation is all about.

1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Earlier this week, like I told you, I was in

1:31:18.120 --> 1:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>d C. And the White House is still behind a barrier.

1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:23.479
<v Speaker 1>That breaks my heart because I do think it's one

1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of the most beautiful buildings. But in the shadow of

1:31:26.479 --> 1:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>six Pennsylvania is Black Lives Matter Plaza, and I'm just

1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>reminded that once again the strength of community, the power

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<v Speaker 1>of my people. I am proud to be in this

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<v Speaker 1>black skin. I have it adopted, and I'm owning my

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<v Speaker 1>big blackness. I'm not. I'm not worried about anymore, not

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<v Speaker 1>being light and attractive to people anymore. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be who I am and move and on that space.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of situations like this, I have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to let things off my chest as well, like you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, And I love love of the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we have an opportunity to this here on, laugh and learn,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, we're not trying to get anybody to change

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<v Speaker 1>their mind. We're just simply trying to get you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to use your and some of y'all dumbmasses ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>no man. So I'm trying to give y'all a man

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm telling you right now, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the science, let me before I close, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>staw some ship right now. Let me stop some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>The science and the politics, the science and the politics.

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<v Speaker 1>The science, then the lifestyle can says kills coronavirus. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the science, that's and the politics. The science of the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine says testing. You know how many tests I fail,

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<v Speaker 1>including a couple of STDs. Coronavirus kills vaccine light sound

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<v Speaker 1>that kills coronavirus, testing says we're testing you ain't testing

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<v Speaker 1>ship on me. Uh. I want to say before we leave,

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<v Speaker 1>prayers to DMX and his whole family, all his children,

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<v Speaker 1>his baby mamas, and everybody who's involving him. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not believe that he drafted that from a drug overdose.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been looking so good in the last few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and been speaking so well on about the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>and just preaching and putting out positive messages and woo woo.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the after effect was. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened with him. We've heard all these situations

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<v Speaker 1>that coming out of all these sorts. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there. I'm not a doctor. But prayers to

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<v Speaker 1>d m May he rest in peace, because I still

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<v Speaker 1>use party up when I do wrap numbers. That was

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<v Speaker 1>there when I when I did party up. And and

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren may know more about this. To Lauren, I read

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<v Speaker 1>something recently about d m X that Beyonce and jay

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<v Speaker 1>Z are buying the Masters. Did you read that too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I read that they bought the Masters um and they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to give the money to the kids. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>read that. If that is indeed true, that's amazing because

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<v Speaker 1>you and We've talked about owning the act on your work.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well Beyonce. You know, Beyonce is amazing in anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>great humanitarian and she loves her city. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were free and they were all friends. Her Swiss beats,

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z, all of them are friends. I need some

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<v Speaker 1>rich friends like that. Were you when you gonna get rich?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so right, But as long as we got love,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need money, right, don't nobody. I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>it them A boy, no love. You gott even got

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<v Speaker 1>the whole suit on. You ain't even got a whole

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<v Speaker 1>suit on. I bet you ain't got the pats on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, let us thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us here at laught a line. You can follow

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Smith on all social media platforms that Nick Smith News.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys do know that I knew. Audio component comes

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<v Speaker 1>All your components come out Wednesday nights at midnight on

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart, Spotify, Apple, Amazon or wherever you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast. But the video component comes out when Lauren.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes out on Saturday at midnight, now, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>was is actually Friday nights. So when y're all at

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<v Speaker 1>home after we do laugh and a love lounge and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's when you gonna do that, because I always

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<v Speaker 1>do love that. I was on Friday, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it this Friday, I was like, I wasn't humble.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing it tonight. You can follow Lauren Hogan. She

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<v Speaker 1>has a YouTube page Lauren Hogan and she's Lauren our

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<v Speaker 1>Money h on Instagram and on Facebook. And who am

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<v Speaker 1>I where? Oh you got a lot? You got Monroe

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<v Speaker 1>flame on Instagram. You got Marcus Flame, Monroe Parker on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>got flame Monroe on YouTube? Got he should on Facebook? Shouldn't?

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<v Speaker 1>No Instagram? No, no, no Instagram. Yeah, we have this

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<v Speaker 1>is laughing learn page. I need to update it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm not haven't been pushing it. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get that together too. So thank you to Kendall.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to Trevor, who we could not do this

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<v Speaker 1>show without. I appreciate you guys joining us. We are

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<v Speaker 1>very grateful to have you guys here. We are doing

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well actually with U. I heard you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate that from you all. Because everyone't for y'all

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<v Speaker 1>listening and sharing and liking and subscribing and ship, we

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<v Speaker 1>would just we sit here twittering out thoms and talking

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody else. But at least when, at least when

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<v Speaker 1>y'all come to hear us talk, and we appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>and we allow you guys to come in because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>again I'm gonna say we have the smartest listeners on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet, because y'all know, I ain't the brightest bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't go to college. Well, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the dorm, but I didn't go to school. Laugh

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<v Speaker 1>and Learn is a production of The Black Effect Network

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