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Speaker 1: Ron Anian on a hunch.

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Speaker 2: Because I couldn't prove that sensor bad on a hunch,

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Speaker 2: I changed her and took it out for another road test. Hey,

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Speaker 2: and within seven minutes of driving that vehicle ran it.

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Speaker 2: So two monitor paths ran few system monitor.

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Speaker 3: Path Mister Smith had nose bem beating. Dude, why are

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Speaker 3: wheels until your homely dated sheets had.

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Speaker 2: Right? God the car Doctor, Wow, I can't believe that

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Speaker 2: one's still going sixty thousand plus miles.

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Speaker 3: That's uh.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell GM. They'll be upset something last of that one.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to them.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage.

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Speaker 2: Doors are but I am here to take your call

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Speaker 2: at eight five five five six oh ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and now he.

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Speaker 1: Running.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if anybody knows that they're allowing two lunatics

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Speaker 2: to run a radio show on the weekend. Because my

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Speaker 2: engineer is out of his mind. I just want to

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Speaker 2: let you guys know that that somewhere along the way boys,

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Speaker 2: some of these opens, Tom, where did you come up

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Speaker 2: with that one? Where's where's that quote from? I know

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Speaker 2: that I know that movie.

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Speaker 4: From the movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. Okay, Yeah, Now, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you find these things. It's I think I'm as

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Speaker 2: every week to hear the opens because they're so unique

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Speaker 2: and well done. Once again, kudos to the great and

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Speaker 2: illustrious Tom Ray. Let's kick off this hour. Let's get

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Speaker 2: right into it. Let's go to Jeff and Virginia twelve

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Speaker 2: Hondacord and some starting issues. Jeff, you're on with the

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Speaker 2: car doctor. What's cooking?

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Speaker 3: Baby?

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Speaker 2: What can I help?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Ron, I've got a twenty twelve Honda Accord for

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Speaker 4: the car, great car, but I've hit about the last

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Speaker 4: month this issue. If you go out in the morning

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Speaker 4: and crank it, if it cranks two times, it starts

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Speaker 4: right up. But if it cranks five or six times,

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Speaker 4: you get the little engine. It'll eventually start and it'll

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Speaker 4: to it the car with the wiggly lines. By mechanic

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Speaker 4: has looked at it. He's cleaned the computer out, redid it,

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Speaker 4: checked the fuel pump, the third and fourth injectors.

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Speaker 2: Good time. When you say your mechanics clean the computer

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Speaker 2: at are you saying he's clearing codes?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. He just told me he cleared everything

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Speaker 4: out and then reset everything.

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Speaker 2: But what is it?

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Speaker 4: It keeps doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, But when he scans it, what is he seeing?

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Speaker 2: What fault code is popping up?

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Speaker 4: The only thing that he is seeing is something with

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Speaker 4: the third or fourth injectors. And he had his computer

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Speaker 4: working perfect? I said, well, what's left? He put a

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Speaker 4: OEM for about a week it worked and then quit.

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Speaker 4: So he said, let me order the Honda one and

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Speaker 4: And I asked him, I said, Blair. What's left to

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Speaker 4: He said, I've checked everything that's not going to be

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Speaker 2: Well, well problem wait wait, wait, wait a minute, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: First of all, okay, we can't look at this is

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Speaker 2: what's not going to be overly expensive if we're diagnosing.

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Speaker 2: You know, diagnosis isn't predicated on what's expensive and what's not.

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Speaker 2: I understand we don't want to spend any money. Nobody does.

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Speaker 2: But you know, let's let's diagnose and duplicate the problem.

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Speaker 2: So here's here's my question to you. All right, let

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Speaker 2: me explain it like this. Okay, do you have a lawnmower, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: diagnose that spark? Might right, might not having a gas

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Speaker 2: conditioned by condition right, fair point right, car cars the

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Speaker 2: you plug in a scan tool. Okay, you go to

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Speaker 2: the er, and I don't wish this upon your brother.

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Speaker 2: You go to the er. What's the first thing they

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Speaker 2: do when you walk in the door. After you finally

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Speaker 2: if God forbid your your your heart rate is high,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's one of ninety possibilities or fifty possibilities

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Speaker 2: that it could be. So if there's a fault code

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Speaker 2: injector number four circuit open, it doesn't mean that, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's because it's invalid, it's or it's too expensive. We're

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Speaker 2: not going to fix it. We've got to diagnose that.

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Speaker 2: Can we replicate that? Can we duplicate that? Can he

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Speaker 2: test other things? Can he tell me what's good? And

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Speaker 2: you an example. A fuel injector is like the front

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Speaker 2: door to your house, all right, right, the computer commands

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Speaker 2: and he sees a change in injector on time, that's

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Speaker 2: I got a code for injector, and I decided that

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Speaker 2: I'll clear it out, I'll start somewhere else. The amount

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Speaker 2: of times I've seen a Honda computer fail in my career,

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Speaker 2: I can count on one hand that generation Honda the biggest.

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Speaker 2: The biggest failure of Honda computers that I saw in

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Speaker 2: you know, what's fuel pressure on a regular basis? Is

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Speaker 2: this a starter cranking problem? These engines are notorious for

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Speaker 2: starter issues. And I'm not suggesting we change the starter,

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Speaker 2: but can we measure electrically what's current draw? How fast

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Speaker 2: is this starter turning? The engine over fault codes. Fault

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Speaker 2: codes are nothing more than going to the er and

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Speaker 2: getting heart rate, blood pressure, weight height, and so on.

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Speaker 2: It's just data. It doesn't tell you anything more than data,

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Speaker 2: I get an oxygen sensor fault. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: I've got a bad oxygen sensor. Something's creating a problem,

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Speaker 2: and how that sensor is operating is what it could be.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, we had a car car, Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: This may help you when when you're driving it. Once

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Speaker 4: you push down on the gas real easy, it starts

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Speaker 4: missing like it's not getting gas. Pushed down harder. Then

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Speaker 4: when you drive it, it just acts like it's not

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a key piece of information, Uh, you know

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Speaker 2: we could have is the engine actually missing? Can we

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Speaker 2: duplicate that? Can your mechanic duplicate that in the bay?

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Speaker 2: Can you make that happen? Can you make that happen

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Speaker 2: if you went out for a road test after you

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Speaker 2: hung up the phone.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, all right, he knows it's missing, all right.

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Speaker 2: Has he looked at it on a scan tool to

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Speaker 2: see if it's reshowing reported misfires?

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Speaker 4: He said, he's done all that. He's a great mechanic.

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Speaker 4: He's done every task, hooked up with it, no doubt,

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Speaker 4: a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: And he said, no doubt. So here, let's do this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's tickle his brain a little bit. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: let's make him go look for what's good. Prove to

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Speaker 2: with what's bad. I want you to mention something to him.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's this. There's a section of engine computer

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Speaker 2: called mode six and mode six Mode six all right,

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Speaker 2: it's part of OBD two. It's part of OBD two technology.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you went to the er and they

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Speaker 2: took your heart rate and blood pressure and they did

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Speaker 2: all those tests. Yeah, there was a testing technique. Right,

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Speaker 2: hold your wrist out, put the stethoscope here. Listen, quiet breathing. Right,

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Speaker 2: there was a process to come to the conclusion of

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Speaker 2: whether or not your heart rate and blood pressure were good, right.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Mode six is the testing technique. It is the process

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Speaker 2: that the vehicle computer uses to decide what's failing. And

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Speaker 2: in the hands of a good technician with a good

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Speaker 2: here that's borderline that hasn't failed yet, that's about to

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Speaker 2: that's causing the problem. I haven't heard anybody say. I

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Speaker 2: haven't heard anybody say anything to me what fuel pressure is?

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Speaker 2: What's fuel pressure on this car when it goes into

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Speaker 2: the heart start condition? Right?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you know.

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Speaker 2: And the problem is the problem is I'm not picking

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Speaker 2: on your mechanic, you know what, brother, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: I'm just making suggestions, all right. Most guys won't hook

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Speaker 2: Red Honda, it would be fuel pressure. Then I'd hook

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Speaker 2: about we swap injectors three and four with injectors one

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Speaker 2: you go. There's your simple answer, simple answer. In sometimes

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Speaker 4: Do that.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what. Sit tight. Let me pull over,

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Speaker 4: Tom for the best in car advice, Give Ron a

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Speaker 4: call eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 4: Oh, if if the mechanic changes the third and fourth

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Speaker 2: Well, it's saying that if it's saying if it stays

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Speaker 2: It's called diagnosis for a reason. Diagnosis doesn't say conclusion.

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Speaker 2: I believe, Jeff, you were one of the first calls

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Speaker 2: Don't go away.

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Speaker 3: Ron's in his own the Auto Zone studio, and he'll

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Auto Zone Studio. Here's Ron. Hey,

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Speaker 2: let's get over to Minnesota. Let's go talk to Butch. Butch,

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Speaker 2: welcome back, sir. How are you and your ro five

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you for calling, I mean talking. It was

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Speaker 5: for like a subframe. And with your previous caller, you

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Speaker 2: Night, refresh everybody's memory, if you would. But this was

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Speaker 5: And are you looking?

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Speaker 2: Are you looking for absolution? My son?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I am right, I'm just asking you.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and four, it belonged to a customer

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Speaker 3: It is.

430
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Speaker 2: It's an old truck. It just but it. You know,

431
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: it's got a little bit of a lifter tap we

432
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: can't get rid of. We're not going to get into

433
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: the engine at this age, still runs good, doesn't set

434
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: any fault codes. It's you know, it's the go to

435
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: run around vehicle. My point becomes, we were ready for it.

436
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 2: If you're ready to deal with the Oh, I can't

437
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: get this part in twenty four hours, I'm going to

438
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: have to scour for it, or you know, it's going

439
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: to take me two weeks to find this. You know what,

440
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: fix it? If you really like the vehicle. And again

441
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 2: this answer is going to come back to your mechanic

442
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: because he's the attending physician in my mind, But if

443
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: you really like the vehicle, and you know, the easiest

444
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: way to look at it is the way I looked

445
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: at it with the Ranger. I said to myself, a

446
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 2: replacement vehicle in two thousand and four would have been

447
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty five thousand dollars five thousand down.

448
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Monthly payments. Monthly payments would probably be five hundred a month.

449
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: That's six thousand a year. Let's make it simple math. Okay,

450
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, six six thousand a year buys a lot

451
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: of parts as long as you got the right mechanic.

452
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: And that's kick, as long as you got the right mechanic.

453
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, Ron, I just keep thinking

454
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 5: of our previous conversation and I try to digest all

455
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 5: the information I can from you. And that's the way

456
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 5: I look at life in general. Where we live here,

457
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 5: I work on a lot of different things, and if

458
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 5: I can't fix it, then it's time to replace it.

459
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm not ready to give up on

460
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 5: this car yet and fix it. It doesn't give me

461
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 5: any problems. And you know, here we're driving back. We

462
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 5: were out of town a little bit and we're going

463
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 5: to pull any good a bite to eat, and the

464
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 5: steering went on it. I had no idea. There was

465
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 5: nothing that let up to it.

466
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: Right. And by the same token, if it makes you

467
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: feel any better, you can go out and spend fifty

468
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: grand on a new car and get a flat tire

469
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: driving home.

470
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 5: Can I ask you one more question? I hear people say,

471
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 5: if you buy somebody else's use vehicle, you don't know

472
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: that vehicle. You could be getting somebody else's problem. Is

473
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 5: that true?

474
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: Ron? Sure could? It depends on it. It depends on

475
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: how well they take care of it.

476
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 5: And look for a used car?

477
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 4: RN.

478
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 5: Do you do you look underneath first? Or where do

479
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 5: you start looking for me?

480
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: Most used car inspections for me start with the dipstick

481
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: customer brings me, customer brings me a used car. I

482
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: always I encourage all my customers bring me the car

483
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: before you buy it. We're gonna do a quick driveway. Look,

484
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: a quick driveway, look is free? I opened the hood,

485
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: I opened the trunk, I opened the hood. I look

486
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: at the dipstick. Is the oil to level? Is the

487
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: oil clean? Does the dipstick look clean? Is it varnished?

488
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Does it look like the oil was just changed? But

489
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: the dipstick looks like it ran hot because the engine

490
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: was run hot, because the oil wasn't changed all the time.

491
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: All right?

492
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: I look at the wear on the break and the

493
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,239
Speaker 2: gas pedals. I listened to the radio stations. If it's

494
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: heavy metal death music and the person selling it as

495
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: the little old church mom, I know it was some

496
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: kids car that you know. Well, maybe things aren't being

497
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: portrayed to me just the way they really were. I look.

498
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: I listened to the radio station pre sets to see

499
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: what kind of music the person was listening to, and

500
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: maybe that's an indicator of how they drove her who

501
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: they were. And you know, listen, you try to profile,

502
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: you try to profile people.

503
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: You do.

504
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: It's you know, you're buying a used car, How well,

505
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: what kind of shape did they take care of it? Okay?

506
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: And did they you know, I look in the trunk.

507
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: I always want to. I always want to smell. Do

508
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: I smell any water back there? If there's a spare tire, Well,

509
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: if it's a sedan, I'll lift it up and I'll

510
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: look at the spare tire. Is there a water line?

511
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: Does it show signs of a water leak? Do I

512
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: get a do I get a whiff a mildew? If

513
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: you look at some of the newer vehicles, you will

514
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: see white tags with the seventeen digit serial number the

515
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: vin of the vehicle tag to it. That's that's by manufacturer.

516
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: If that vintag is missing, if you see it in

517
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: one part of the car. But let's say if you

518
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 2: saw it in the trunk but you don't see it

519
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: in the hood area, pretty good chance that car was

520
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: in a front end collision and they have to they

521
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: should disclose that. Yeah, you got to look at all

522
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: that stuff. And I'll do that in the driveway. I'll

523
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: do that in the driveway, you know, I'll do that

524
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: in the corner of the shop. You know, Dan's coming

525
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: in or just coming in, or Butcher's coming in, and

526
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna okay, yeah, real quick, we'll do this. It's

527
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: a five minute walk around. It's a courtesy to a customer.

528
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: If it pass all that, If it passes all that,

529
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: run I really want this car. Then we spend Then

530
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: we spend one hundred and sixty five bucks. We put

531
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: it up in the air, We do a full inspection,

532
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: We code scan it, We look at as many modules

533
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: as we can as quickly as we can, and you know,

534
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: give it a good old stick out your tongue and

535
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: say ah, and that's.

536
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: Why underneath sure, yeah, that's what you check under their two.

537
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, that's what you're doing when you're lifting it

538
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: up in the air. You know you're gonna put wheels

539
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: in the multi brakes right exactly. Yeah, you have to

540
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: be aware of all that, so you know, think of

541
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: it like this, okay, and it's really going to come

542
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: down to a conversation between you and your mechanic. He's

543
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: the attending physician. You know, ask him if you're willing

544
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: to spend fix the rack, and you know, if you're

545
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: going to fix the rack. And now you're now you're

546
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: going to start to put away one hundred and fifty

547
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: dollars a month every month for maintenance and repair. I'm

548
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: not saying you're going to spend it, but I want

549
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: you to budget for it. I want you to put

550
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: that money away, all right, and barring calamitous failure, all right,

551
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: then you know, in a short order you'll have fifteen

552
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 2: hundred and two thousand dollars put away. I don't care

553
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: if you put it in the bank and make it

554
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: a three week CD or a six month CD, and

555
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: it's there if you need it. But at least you've

556
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: got money put away. If you do that every month

557
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: on an older car, and you do it long enough,

558
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: maybe in five years, when this car has four hundred

559
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: thousand miles on it and you're ready to give up

560
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: on it, you'll have twenty grand to put down on

561
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: the next new car.

562
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: You had a gentleman that followed up last week. He

563
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 5: said he had one two hundred and thirty five thousand,

564
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 5: the same as what I had, and he said he'd

565
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 5: like to go to three hundred on it, but he's

566
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: willing to do it, to spend the money to do it,

567
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: because he'd liked the vehicle, and so I kind of

568
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: listen to his conversation too. But tell you what, Ron,

569
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: thanks for all the advice. I think, as it stands

570
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: right now, I'm probably going to lean have the mechanic

571
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 5: look at it one more time. I got to get

572
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: it towed into his garage, but let him make the

573
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 5: final decision. But I don't mind putting the money into it,

574
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 5: because the car is something I've had all these years.

575
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 5: I know, and I'm happy with it, right.

576
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: And you know the insight of it. You know how

577
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 2: it works, and you know the buttons and the dials,

578
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: and you know what, Butch, as long as you're willing

579
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: to take the personal responsibility for it and tell them

580
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: that you understand, if there's calamitous failure in three months

581
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: or six weeks or whatever it is, let's put the

582
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: rack in it and keep driving it and start budgeting

583
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: for repairs. Let us know how it works out. But

584
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: it was a pleasure talking to you. I'm running any

585
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this.

586
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Running of the Car Doctor. The AW went

587
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: on strike. We should point that out. I think everybody

588
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: knows that. And you know, in case you're thinking this

589
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: is only about, you know, making new cars, it's not. Already.

590
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: My dealer guys are telling me that they're experiencing parts

591
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: shortages and that they've been told parts shortages are next.

592
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: So it might be a good time to stock up,

593
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: as they said to me, on some of your you know,

594
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: your favorite consumables, filters and tune up parts and maybe

595
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: break parts if you know you're coming to do for breakwork.

596
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: You know, now maybe the time to get down to

597
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: your favorite autopart store and you know, do some shopping,

598
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: get some stuff in stock and put it on the shelf,

599
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: because you know it's going to be a problem, you know,

600
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: the the U A W strike. From my seat, you know,

601
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 2: they're telling us it's about money. I think it's it's

602
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: it's obviously it's always about money, but there are underlying factors.

603
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: You know.

604
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: It kind of slapped me in the face. Today. We

605
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: get the Wall Street Journal at home, and I was

606
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: reading it and there was a section, you know, Baron's

607
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: comes with it, Barons the Money magazine or the Money paper,

608
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: And there's an article in there Ford and GM or

609
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: losing the EV War and how they can win by

610
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: Al Root, and the first part of it says, you know,

611
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: the U a W strike isn't the biggest problem facing

612
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: the automakers. Instead, it's that their enormous bet on electric

613
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: vehicles still show few signs of paying off. And in

614
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: the body of the article it talks about the numbers

615
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: of what GM and Ford are are committing. GM and

616
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Ford specifically are committing and terms of dollars to make

617
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: EV's work. And you know they still I think Tesla

618
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: still owns or still has sixty percent of the EV

619
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: sales in the marketplace, and Ford and GM or six

620
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: and seven percent, And you know they're not growing, and

621
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: they're putting billions into the EV future. GM is committed

622
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: to spending thirty five billion, that's billion with a B

623
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty to twenty twenty five for equipment, factories,

624
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: engineering and so forth, and Ford has put Ford is

625
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: planning to spend roughly seven billion over the next few

626
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: years to build brand new battery plants and EV manufacturing

627
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: facilities in Kentucky and Tennessee. And the problem is they're

628
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: not making profit on the EV's and that's part of

629
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: the UAW problem because they're committing so much money to

630
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: develop the EV they're not from the way I'm reading

631
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: this article, they're not using it to you know, they're

632
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: not able to pay the workers, or they're claiming they're

633
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: not able to pay the workers. So I think, you know, look,

634
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: if they're making more money, they got to hand out

635
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: more money, right, wouldn't that be logical? But you know,

636
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: evs again or a big part of the problem. And

637
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: just be aware, all right, it's uh, you know that

638
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: the EUAW is on strike. I just wanted to point

639
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: that out this section. And I'll let you know that.

640
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: You know, if you're thinking of, yeah, maybe a good

641
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: time let's put a case of oil filters on the shelf,

642
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: it couldn't hurt you out down to your local AutoZone

643
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: and you know, go do some shopping and you know

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Speaker 2: AutoZone will have it. And uh, you know, they're the

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Speaker 2: biggest parts brand parts house out there, and anybody will

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Speaker 2: keep stuff on the shelf, it'll be them. But you're

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Speaker 2: going to find that EAW strike is going to affect

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Speaker 2: parts availability in the next couple of next couple of months,

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Speaker 2: so let's hope there's a quick settlement. Eight five five

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Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running the

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: running the Car Doctor here. Eight five five five six

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Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. I want to point out

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Speaker 2: starting this week for the fall, will be taking can

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Speaker 2: calls Wednesday night seven pm East Coast time. So if

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Speaker 2: you call eight five five five six zero nine nine

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Speaker 2: zero zero midweek or early in the week, you know,

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Speaker 2: call Monday Tuesday, leave a message, we'll get you in

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Speaker 2: the queue. We'll do our seven o'clock recording Wednesday nights,

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Speaker 2: and you know, get some calls in the queue and

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Speaker 2: we can bank them for future shows. So we're just

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Speaker 2: trying to do that. We also want to be around

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Speaker 2: for a mid week. We get a lot of emails

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Speaker 2: midweek and a lot of conversations midweek. I realize that's

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Speaker 2: when people have their problems. I just want to try

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Speaker 2: and make myself more available, but I want to put

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Speaker 2: it on air. Frankly, I want everybody to hear the

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Speaker 2: results of it, so that everybody benefits from it. Because

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Speaker 2: that's what this radio show is about, right, everybody gets information.

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Speaker 2: Got an email from Frank in front of me Roun.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I were

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Speaker 2: driving home. We got a ding and the four ways

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Speaker 2: flashed once. A couple of days later we were driving

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Speaker 2: and it dinged again. The four ways flashed once, and

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Speaker 2: the door is unlocked. A few more days pass nothing

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Speaker 2: happened than the next day at ding, the four ways flashed,

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Speaker 2: the dome light came on and then went off. Any ideas,

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Speaker 2: Thanks God bless Frank. Twenty ten Toyota Highlander to turn

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand miles. Frank, hard problem to solve, But I'll

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Speaker 2: can tell you the things that go through my mind.

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Speaker 2: Are you the original owner? Did you just get the vehicle?

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Speaker 2: Do you know the history? Do you have all the

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Speaker 2: keys to the vehicle? All right? And the reason I

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Speaker 2: say that is I'll never forget the Dodge caravan we

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Speaker 2: had that the customer had a similar condition. Driving along.

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Speaker 2: The door locks would lock, the four ways would flash,

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Speaker 2: the dome light would go on and off, and we

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Speaker 2: ran through it. We could never duplicate the condition. And

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Speaker 2: then one day they had a water leak. The ac

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Speaker 2: of operator drain clogged and it spilled water all over

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Speaker 2: the passenger side carpeting. We picked up the floor mat

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Speaker 2: and there was this. There was the missing remote key

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Speaker 2: transmitter under the floor mat. The customer didn't realize that's

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Speaker 2: where it was. It had fallen down and every time

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Speaker 2: the passenger would move their foot, they would step on

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Speaker 2: the button activate the door locks and the four way flashers,

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Speaker 2: as if the vehicle was locking and unlocking itself. So

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Speaker 2: do you have all the keys, do you know where

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Speaker 2: all the transmitters are? And are they in your possession?

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Speaker 2: And then it was the vehicle ever in an accident.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you get vehicles that were in an

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Speaker 2: accident that's a problem where they were properly repaired and

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Speaker 2: take a look, have your mechanics, consider where the body

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Speaker 2: computer is a lot of the functions you're describing go

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Speaker 2: through the body computer on that vehicle. And could this

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Speaker 2: vehicle have water maybe under the passenger seat where I

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Speaker 2: believe a bcm is on that vehicle. Water in these

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Speaker 2: cars don't get along like they don't with any other car.

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Speaker 2: Those are just some of my preliminary thoughts. Good luck,

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Speaker 2: and keep me posted if it intensifies. I'm not an

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Speaker 2: ady in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 2: See you