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Speaker 1: Welcome back to All the Smoke Season six. Man. We

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Speaker 1: started off with the banger and we got another one.

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you, guys, this person that we're

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Speaker 1: about to ending right now, I've probably been chasing the

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Speaker 1: longest outside of Blake Griffin, her and Blake Griffin, who

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Speaker 1: I've been bothering the fuck out of both of them.

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate it. She finally found time in her

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Speaker 1: busy schedule to come down and kicking with us.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: So someone we're both a huge fan of, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, Kansas.

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Speaker 2: Parker, the one and only appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: When we were just talking about parenthood off camera, So

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Speaker 1: you're a mother of four three? Excuse me, what's the

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Speaker 1: age range?

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Speaker 3: So we got sixteen, three and a half and seventeen months?

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Speaker 2: Oh too little?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just decided to start over, to start over again,

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Speaker 3: you know a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: What's boy life like? I have four boys and their

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Speaker 1: crash dummies?

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Speaker 2: Like? What is he said? Crash? What it like?

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Speaker 1: What are your talking about? Your hold son's hand walking

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Speaker 2: He just wants to jump? Like?

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Speaker 1: What is it like being a boy mom?

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Speaker 2: Now too?

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Speaker 3: Well, First, we went to Disney yesterday and I stuck

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Speaker 3: him on Guardians of the Galaxy. He's three and a half,

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Speaker 3: but he's like forty three forty four inches tall, so

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Speaker 3: So it's from fun from that dynamic. But I don't

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Speaker 3: know what they're thinkings. Ninety percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: We're not Sometimes we're not thinking at all keeping boys alive.

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Speaker 2: We're not thinking it all the boy.

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Speaker 3: Mom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Basketball Accolades. Your list is incredible.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna toot your horn a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight Rookie of the Year and regular

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Speaker 1: Season MVP incredible, three time champs, sixteen, twenty one and

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Speaker 1: twenty three only player to win it with three different teams,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Finals MVP, seven time All Star, two time

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Speaker 1: NCAA Champ, two time goal medalists.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you wonder why you're back, I'll tell you right.

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Speaker 1: There, you kind of sit. I mean, obviously you just

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Speaker 1: stepped away. So you know, in the process of athletes

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Speaker 1: will always look forward. What's next? How can I continue

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Speaker 1: to get better? You're finally in a place now where

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Speaker 1: being a mom is first and foremost importance. Of importance

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Speaker 1: in business, in life, But what do you ever kind

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Speaker 1: of have you had the chance to kind of just

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Speaker 1: reminisce on the run you've had, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest runs of all time.

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Speaker 3: It's so crazy because you know, when you're a player

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Speaker 3: retired athletes that come back and they say like, these

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Speaker 3: are the best days of your lives. And it's the

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Speaker 2: And now you realize it.

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Speaker 3: And I think the thing that I missed the most

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Speaker 3: It was like the moment before the ball was tipped,

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Speaker 3: when you're like around the circle and it's like this

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Speaker 3: grateful because there are those ones that were a part

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Speaker 3: from you know, from Tennessee, really from high school. And

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful for my career. I'm also grateful I don't

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Speaker 3: you know what it is as you get older, I

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Speaker 1: What is I mean, You've only known this for so

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Speaker 3: It was my first time traveling this past summer because

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Speaker 3: the WBA is in the summer, so that's seventeen years gone.

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Speaker 1: You were behind the plate the other night of a

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Speaker 1: legendary performance by show. Hey Otani, give me the energy,

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Speaker 1: b the excitement. Tell me what that night was about.

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Speaker 3: Well, first, I was taking my family to the game.

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Speaker 3: My son is into baseball because we'll watch were Cubs fans,

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Speaker 3: so we forgive you. It was hard. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: hard to watch the Brewers, you know, win in Game five,

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Speaker 3: out here to play against the Dodgers. But anyway, I

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Speaker 3: you to witness just how epic that performance was. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you talk about just ten strikeouts, switching to center field,

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Speaker 3: he's pretty good. I'm like the understatement year, the understatement

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Speaker 3: I mean it was.

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Speaker 1: You're right behind right there. Yes, I could only.

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Speaker 4: Imagine that's was named on the NBA on Prime broadcasting crew.

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Speaker 2: I know that's congratulations on that too.

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Speaker 4: What did you did you pick up anything from the

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Speaker 4: time of tant from Kenny and chucking those guys that

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Speaker 3: I noticed you ain't say Shack Shack too, Okay, Like

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Speaker 3: do you pick up any basketball analysis from Shack?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really picked up how important culture is, Like

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, d Wade and and I are calling some games

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Speaker 3: I think it's just the camaraderie that we've established. Blake

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Speaker 3: So I'm really excited about the people working with him

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Speaker 3: talking about basketball. The studio is sick. It's crazy the

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Speaker 3: technology you bring a tech company into sports, and I

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Speaker 2: You met your wife overseas. How did y'all meet?

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Speaker 3: It's really cool because my kids, you know, my my

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Speaker 1: I have a question, obviously, you know you had a

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Speaker 1: did that kind of when did when did it start

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Speaker 3: That was hilarious way. That was like the most corporate ask.

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Speaker 2: You don't never try to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know that's a lie. You gotta gotta walk down.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not with her, but just in general. You gotta

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Speaker 3: You could tell you got a sixteen year old because

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Speaker 1: So when when did that kind of swiss click on,

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Speaker 3: Anthony was was huge in that I think my nieces

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Speaker 1: Of that, as you should ye big bro ap we

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Speaker 3: But my brother got drafted in ninety seven when I

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Speaker 3: know you come to America.

436
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my that's my brother. You dunked in a

437
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: game at fifteen.

438
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: I wasn't dunking at fifteen.

439
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: You were dunking at fifteen. Stop it.

440
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: I was badly dunking in the league. He got heavy calves.

441
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

442
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: I wasn't a jump I'm telling you I probably I

443
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 4: probably start dunking comfortably probably around eleventh grade, yes, like

444
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 4: just with no effort.

445
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: Yes, bro, I was score. I'm not a jumper.

446
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 3: You'll score. Tell you that. I gotta pull up some clips.

447
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: My favorite thing to do is like see old videos

448
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: of my brother's Criocket hand contest and then we put

449
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: it in the group chat. So it's like my favorite

450
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 3: thing when they show old like clips of whatever and

451
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: you see him like defending Kobe or d Way's little

452
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: you know, and Anthony be over here and d Wade

453
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 3: be shooting over there. That's our favorite thing to put

454
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: in the group chat is yeah, like hold on number

455
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: eighteen with the cricket contest because he was guarding all

456
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: of y'all crazy.

457
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously duncan for women is is not new now,

458
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: but it was. It was kind of like a real

459
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: jaw dropping thing back when you I mean at fifteen

460
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: you were doing it. I mean, least Leslie, there's a

461
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: hand there's only a handful of people that were dunking.

462
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: So as a woman or you know, you were a

463
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: teenage girl at that time, what was that like?

464
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, swag with her?

465
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 4: I think she the first one had swaged with everybody

466
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: else was like getting it, like she was dunking it.

467
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: She had swag with.

468
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: I just wish that I wouldn't have mess up my

469
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: knee because my bunnies before were like I was two

470
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: hand easy, two hand before I blew out my knee.

471
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: But what was crazy was in my household. It was

472
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: like I dunked before my brothers dunked at that age,

473
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 3: so I was more excited about dunking before my older

474
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: brothers did, so I could brag at the dinner table

475
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: because my brothers were you know, they were a little

476
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: shorter than me. So we had all started high school

477
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: at the same time. I was six to two my

478
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 3: freshman year, Anthony was five to seven, and Marcus was

479
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: five to five. So I was like, y'all lucky, y'all

480
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 3: that much older than me. Do you imagine driving your

481
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: freshman sister to high school right out the car? Exactly?

482
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 3: But I think that was what I was most proud of.

483
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: I just wish I would have worked a little harder

484
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: on the lane, because I think that's what ultimately all

485
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: gas no breaks. But I mean it was exciting to

486
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: be able to go out there and do things that

487
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: people hadn't been accustomed to seeing. You know, a teenage girl.

488
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: Do I mean you told us off came when it

489
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: blew me away? You're fourteen surgeries deep in an ACL,

490
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: You're SEENI or of high school with coach Summit watching,

491
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: and you know, tell us what you were telling. I mean,

492
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was incredibly mean, your your journey was

493
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: almost over before it started.

494
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I've been bone on bone since I've been

495
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: seventeen years old. I came back in five months from

496
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: ACL because I wanted to play my senior year. So

497
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: when you see the old McDonald's all American clips of

498
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: me and the dunk contest and playing the game, I

499
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: have a big, bulky knee brace. I was nine months

500
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: from ACL surgery. So I had surgery.

501
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Normally kind of supposed to come back, but you came back.

502
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's what ultimately caused the next

503
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: year where I had to red shirt my freshman year

504
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: at Tennessee. I had told me total mee reconstruction for

505
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: more al kondal resurfacing, and yeah, I mean it definitely

506
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: was difficult because basketball was my only love. I mean

507
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: I would do anything to bounce the ball, and so

508
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: to have that kind of taken away, it was really difficult.

509
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: I think mentally moving away from home, going through surgeries

510
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: and things like that. But then progressively through my career,

511
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: I just realized I was pushing through pain too much,

512
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: and it was it got unhealthy at a point where

513
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: it was like you're hurting other things because you're pushing

514
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: through knee pains. And you know, ultimately, like my foot

515
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: was broken when I stopped playing, and so I have

516
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: to stop associating like pushing through stuff as being tough

517
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: in an athlete, it was it's crazy because now my

518
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: back is jacked up. And so as you get to

519
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: knocking on the door, I'm knocking on forty, you realize,

520
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: like all the stuff you're doing, the mileage you put

521
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: on your body, catch up playing all year round. Yeah,

522
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: it catches up with you.

523
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I think you said something really interesting because our generation

524
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: was taught to push through it might do it, tough

525
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: it up, and then now you're seeing us. I mean

526
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: you and Jack were comparing back war stories, you know,

527
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: before we were on camera, and it's just like the

528
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: one thing I will say, and I think it's starting

529
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: to switch. But kind of the old school players in

530
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: the old school man, they're soft, They're not they need

531
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: they need to do they need to do. Now they're

532
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: protecting the asset, the entire body, the body.

533
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: I didn't understand when people were like, when you're forty,

534
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: you will, you know, because you just I was taking

535
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: the turtle shots in the butt to play in the

536
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 3: playoff games, and I was doing the you know, the

537
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: injections with a little bit of cortizone that became a

538
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: little bit more of courtizone in my knees. And in

539
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: my feet, in my hips and my shoulder. So I've

540
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: done all of that stuff and I just really am

541
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: a firm believer in like taking your time, and I'm

542
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: even learning now, like pushing pushing past stuff on the

543
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: peloton for what? But am I pushing past pin peloton?

544
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: Like?

545
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: But it's yeah, you can't turn it off. I'm like,

546
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm on the I'm this is a this is a

547
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: hip hop ride? What am I doing?

548
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: You touched on it? But but but getting shot up?

549
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: I got shut up with the toor door. I had

550
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: the the what was the other thing you were saying?

551
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: It slept my mind? The quarter zone in my in

552
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: my toe. How what was the most painful one you did?

553
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: I had to go to the emergency room when I

554
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: got my show my toe shot up in Phoenix with

555
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: quarters on it was I felt like my foot was

556
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna explode, and.

557
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: It swollen and it got all red.

558
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to die.

559
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: That is.

560
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Die.

561
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: It's it's like a happy medium because then you start

562
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: getting faster in between the toughest one I think for

563
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: me was I had a bone bruise and my it

564
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: just started hurting me yes and my knees and we

565
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: were playing Minnesota. I don't know what year it was,

566
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: but we were playing Minnesota that year in the playoffs

567
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: and it started hurting and then all of a sudden,

568
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: one day I just couldn't practice, like I just couldn't again.

569
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: We didn't sit out of practice. There was no like, oh,

570
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: you played thirty seven minutes last night, maybe you shouldn't

571
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: practice today. It was like the team is practicing, that's

572
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: what we did, and so I, you know, practice whatever.

573
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: And then it was like, okay, you have this bone bruise.

574
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: It's on the MRI. So I was getting a turtle

575
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: shot by the doctor for Minnesota, links one of the

576
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: doctors before the game to try to play, and that

577
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: was one of the most painful things because you think

578
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: you get through those forty minutes, but then it's the

579
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: whole evening after that horrible waking up and the throbbing

580
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: pain and all that stuff.

581
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: So it's the stuff that people don't talk about, but

582
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: as athletes, you remember though some of those times were tough,

583
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: painful as hell, but them shots or because that tourt

584
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: all make you feel like Superman, Superwoman.

585
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like I was jumping out the gym.

586
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: Forget anything is wrong with you. Yes, it made me.

587
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I had a separated my shoulder going in the playoffs

588
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: one time a long with the Clippers, and I could

589
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: it with my shooting army. I couldn't even shoot. I

590
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: wasn't shooting. I wasn't going to do. You get that

591
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: shot and you're like, holy shit, like what this can't.

592
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: Be because what the pain is still there?

593
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: You just don't feel like I feel so good that

594
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: this shot. I know this shot is fucked up. Yeah,

595
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: because I shouldn't not feel nothing.

596
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: No, that's true.

597
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: It's so strong, it's unbelievable.

598
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: I feel you. And nowadays I look at all the

599
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: things that I shouldn't have done, and I wish because

600
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: as an athlete, you're just thinking about now we.

601
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: Got to be a protected against ourselves.

602
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I needed that because there's no way like

603
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: I I just located my shoulder in two thousand and

604
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: eight in the game to go to the final four,

605
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: and girl drove behind me. I reach, she came up

606
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: with the ball. I went down. My shoulder came out

607
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: like just hanging as I'm dribbled down the court. So

608
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 3: I go to the RAF, I hand them the ball.

609
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: I go in the back. I'm like, no, I'm going

610
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: back in, Like this is to go to the final four,

611
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: this could be my last game in my entire career.

612
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: I'm going back in. So they're like, okay, okay, okay,

613
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: they put my shoulder back in. I went back in,

614
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: reached with my left hand like an idiot disocates again.

615
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: Same game. So I go back and coach Summon is like,

616
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: if you you can't come back in, da da da.

617
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well, my teammate had had a

618
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: shoulder injury. So they're like, we have a brace that

619
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: you can wear, but if it disokates again, you're out.

620
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: If it disokates again, this would be the third time.

621
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: In sit my ass.

622
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Down, tell me I can't play. Came back in, played,

623
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: we went to the final four. But like geez, it's

624
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: just like I just wish they're in. No way if

625
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: Leilah I sit down, no like as her mom, no,

626
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: no way.

627
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Real quick, but before we move on what she said, Mom, you.

628
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: Did it right, I'll be like, but I'm protecting you

629
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: from which I'm serious.

630
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: Real quick, before you move on, how many surgeries and

631
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: where so?

632
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: Ten knee surgeries, two foot surgeries, which Actually, one of

633
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: the scariest things is during my foot surgery, the surgeon

634
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: severed my nerves so I couldn't feel my foot, and

635
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: I had like one of those like what is it

636
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: called the nerve blocks, so I shouldn't have been able

637
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: to feel my foot, but I felt my It was weird.

638
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: So we went to the ear in the middle of

639
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: the night. They had to cut off the cast. It

640
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: was a whole thing.

641
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: So I was, oh, you didn't even so the surgeon

642
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: didn't know he did that.

643
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 3: No wow, or he did but anyway, so yeah, so

644
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: just got I had the reconstructive surgery again to follow

645
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: that surgery up, and they did a condo and reconnected

646
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: the nerve. So it's still a little weird, Like my

647
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: toes are a little weird, but they were like you

648
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: were so close to having drop foot, so like two

649
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 3: foots are and then the shoulder, the shoulder surgery, so

650
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: laboram so yeah, I'm a I'm bionic. I'm hoping science

651
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: can grow cartilage and stuff. But I don't know if

652
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: I can wait for the new replacement. Like I'm ready

653
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: to get out and start playing beach volleyball, but I can't.

654
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: So I'm like, slow your ass down, canvas, but I

655
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: want to down.

656
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: I got listen. I gotta stay right for these boys

657
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: because I have run it right now is like do

658
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: you played basketball?

659
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa? Right? For real?

660
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: Whoa?

661
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: I no clue on what we did before? Run as

662
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: through your college career quickly, I mean obviously very decorated.

663
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Uh the legendary coach past summit rest in peace?

664
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: What was it like?

665
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: I remember just quick story you were already gone or

666
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: you weren't even there yet, but I remember when you

667
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: guys become the UCLA and players, and she would walk

668
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: around our campus. Oh yeah, and just chill and kind

669
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: of is that bad?

670
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Something like?

671
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: And she would just kind of be out in the open.

672
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: Well what kind of coach was she? And and tell

673
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: me some of the stuff you learned from her?

674
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: Man coach Summit was different, and I think you talk

675
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: about like the Phil Jackson zen mentality. Early Summit was

676
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: like coaching us as athletes, like demanding the intensity, the mindset,

677
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: and it was about building like the entire person on

678
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: or off the court. It's like a mindset. You can't

679
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: switch off whatever you're doing in life, that's what you do.

680
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: And I feel like it was a great continuum of

681
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: my parents. I think it was like a perfect changing

682
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: of the guards because my parents, that's what they established,

683
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: like the mindset, the work ethic, you know, putting the

684
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: time in, letting the results speak for themselves. And that's

685
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: coach summit. I mean, she was she did the little things,

686
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: even when she was handing hanging banners. Yeah, like she

687
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: was fierce competitive, all these things that we see today,

688
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: but just before her time.

689
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: One hundred and one and ten record in college, which

690
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 4: is bananas. I mean, god damn ten losses that are

691
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: two titles, went straight from college to the two thousand

692
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 4: and eight Olympics.

693
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: Pat with Gino.

694
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: That's why I don't.

695
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: That's why I don't. I love that you.

696
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy though, because I'm covering some of their

697
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: games this year, so it's gonna be really awkward in

698
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: the coaches meeting. But I can separate work and liking somebody.

699
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: But that some people can't, but I can.

700
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I can.

701
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: I can separate if I don't like you, and I

702
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: can still do my That's good beef, though, Paton Gino, No,

703
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: I thought it was good beef too, until the beef

704
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: became personal. And then I guess it in good beef.

705
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: When when slugs being shot, Like damn, okay, this is crazy.

706
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

707
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: October twenty twenty five, AP Press name these five players

708
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 4: as the best in women's college history. You, of course

709
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 4: Canaan Clark, Cheryl Miller, Danna Troisi, and Breonna Steyt as

710
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: a start in five.

711
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: You agree with that.

712
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: I have said this and I will say this until

713
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: I'm blue in the face. Amigo hold s class.

714
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: Should be on the thank you, thank you.

715
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: Hold Slash should be on the first team. She has

716
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: three titles. She is the leading scorer at Tennessee. I

717
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: give the nod. So if somebody got to give up

718
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: a spot, you know, so we not debating. I'll give

719
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: up my spot because Shimik was college basketball, Like she

720
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: was doing stuff before, she was on slam covers, before

721
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: they were handing out slam covers to anybody and everybody, Like.

722
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: She was.

723
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: Nike deal, million dollar Nike deals. And I think you

724
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: can separate college from pro And if you're just not

725
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 3: a recency bias, you understand the impact that Shamikh host

726
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: Cal had on women's college basketball. And like I mean this,

727
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: Dandia's are you freaking kidding me. Was she in il

728
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: would need? So I just that is the only thing.

729
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: So it's hard for me to look past that when

730
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: I don't see her name on the first team.

731
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: Don stay up there like drafted number one overall by

732
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: the Sparks in two thousand and eight, get a chance

733
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: to play alongside Lease so LESSI but what is your

734
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: first impression of Obviously Chicago to Tennessee to.

735
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: La this crazy. I went down South and was culture

736
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: shocked a little bit. You know. That was when Obama

737
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: was like running for president and everything. So we saw

738
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: the good, the bad, and the ugly in the South

739
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: off the court. But I think it was just culture.

740
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: Like Midwest mentality. I still feel like is like the

741
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 3: best the way that we take care of our neighbors,

742
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: and it's very family oriented. It's very like blue collar work,

743
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: hard normal, Like you didn't have people like going to

744
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: movie premieres and like whose parents are taking them to

745
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: Europe for the summer, Like it was just you go

746
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: into Wisconsin for the summer to the dells? Are you

747
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: driving to your grandparents' house? Like it was That was

748
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: kind of the mindset in the Midwest basketball training. It

749
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: was you know, working hard and all that. I think

750
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: we had some of the best basketball during that time.

751
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: You talk about I remember seeing Kevin Garnett when I

752
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: was younger play Ronnie Fields. Yeah, I'm gonna take it

753
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: back real quick. Yeah. So like I saw all those

754
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: dudes in the summer play Cappy Pondexter. I gotta throw

755
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: her in there. Was tough. Should not have been moving

756
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: like that at that time. But then you go down

757
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: South and you're playing for this historic university that has

758
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: won titles and been there and done that and trying

759
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 3: to bring them back to prominence. And then coming out

760
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: here it was like the big lights. You know. My

761
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: first year in two thousand and eight, we're at the

762
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: Olympics and there's actually a video I posted on Instagram

763
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: and I'm going around everybody. I'm asking where they're from.

764
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: You know. The men's team was the Redeemed team, and

765
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: oh wait, I get to Kobe and he's like, I'm global,

766
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: Like you get them my nerves. So I think just

767
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 3: coming out to LA you realize, like how many different

768
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: mindsets are out here because a lot of people aren't

769
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: from here. They just make it home. I've realized a

770
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: lot raising my kids out here. It's a way different

771
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: lifestyle than I ever lived. My daughter is eating more

772
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: sushi than I've ever I had just tried sushi when

773
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: I was twenty two when I got out here.

774
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: That's a Thursday for y'all.

775
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: Now yeah, Like now she like, yo, mom, you want

776
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: to go to sushi by scratch. I'm like, you know

777
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: how much that amakase is?

778
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: Like this is just a.

779
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: Normal day for you? Like this is crazy. So yeah,

780
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: So it's just a different lifestyle, but I will tell

781
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 3: you the expectations are the same, like you gotta win.

782
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: It's just on a brighter stage out here. And so

783
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: La has become home. It is where I hope to

784
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: call home forever. And uh yeah, I love it out here.

785
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: He mentioned Cole. You got any stories of Coke?

786
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: Do I have stories?

787
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

788
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: Kobe was a different breed in terms of mentality.

789
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: You know.

790
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: I can remember when we were going through the twenty

791
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: sixteen run to try to win a championship. It would

792
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: have been my first championship, and it was crazy because

793
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: everywhere I had been it was like a two years

794
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: adjustment period and then we would win. So high school lost, freshman,

795
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: sophomore year, got it done senior junior, senior college. It

796
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: was like lost sophomore year, got it done junior senior year.

797
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: And so when I got out here, I was just

798
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: expecting to win. And in eight we lost on a

799
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: last second buzzer beater to go to the finals. So

800
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: it was kind of like, Okay, next year, we'll win it. Okay,

801
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: next year we'll win it. Okay, next year, we'll win it.

802
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: So I was out here in two thousand and nine

803
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: twenty ten when he was trying to win without Shack,

804
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: and so it was more so just watching him develop

805
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: into like reinvent himself in that second phase without him

806
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 3: and the mentality and the energy, And I think what's

807
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: etched in my mind, and I've said this so many times,

808
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: is like at the Olympics in O eight in twenty twelve,

809
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I joke with d Waight about this

810
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: all the time, and the Redeemed team they're like, yeah,

811
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: we were motivated to get up and lift weights with Kobe,

812
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: Like not every day, y'all didn't do that. Other I

813
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: was there, y'all, advertiser, Kobe was by himself on the

814
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: court before our practice, but it was every single day, Yeah,

815
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: And so to see, like a lot of times you

816
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: see the hype and you see the conversation around this

817
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: person's work ethic, but to see it, to see him

818
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: when the men did not have practice every single day

819
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: before our shoot around out there working out with his rebounder,

820
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: doing spot shots, doing you know, footwork, it was crazy

821
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 3: to me. And so I think that's what I take

822
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: away is more so than like, you know, the stories

823
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: and the funny jokes and things like that. One hundred

824
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: percent but like that, yeah, you can hold on it. Yeah,

825
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: like that one hundred percent.

826
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Became the first w NBA player to win both the

827
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year and MVP in the same season.

828
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: The only other two people to do it Wilt Chamberlain

829
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: and what Wes Unsell. Again, we're in a little bit

830
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: of reflection time. You came in the league and took

831
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: it by storm, and when Rookie of the Year at

832
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: MVP your first season, I think a lot is made

833
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: of the knocks that Caitlin Clark took her first season.

834
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: What kind of stuff were you going through as a young,

835
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: hot shot, light skinned girl out here in LA now

836
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: and really kicking people's ass.

837
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: It was crazy. I remember the first time we played

838
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: Detroit Shock. And you talk about like I inherit people

839
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: that I don't like because if like there's sixteen year

840
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: olds at school that I don't like because my daughter

841
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: don't like them, You know.

842
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: What I mean?

843
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: Like, that's how ready to for I Just that's the

844
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: family I come from. Like you don't have to explain it.

845
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: I don't have to agree with it. But if you

846
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: don't like them, I don't like them neither. You know,

847
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: type of thing. That's how I am. And when I

848
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: tell you what the Detroit Shock, my coach at the time,

849
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: Michael Cooper, did not like Bill Lambier and he thought

850
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: Bill Lambier's Detroit Shock played like the bad Boy Pistons,

851
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: which they did, and they had a player on that

852
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: team by the name of Plynette Pearson who throughout my career,

853
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: I had taken hard foul after hard foul and it

854
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: was my rookie year and I was playing well up

855
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: until that point. It was before Olympic break had just

856
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: been named to the Olympic team. So I was taking

857
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: a couple of licks and I remember Coop all the time,

858
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: he knew my personality. So you always try to hype

859
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: me up. They're trying to punk you, Silk, that's what

860
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: they call me. They're trying to punk you, silk, trying

861
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: to punk you and gotten a little brawl. Yeah. So

862
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: Lisa was smooth. I was silky, yeah, yeah, and Planette

863
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: did some stuff at the free throw line and then

864
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, a brawl.

865
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Just it was crazy.

866
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Right here, I knew we got a lot in common. Yeah,

867
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: it was crazy.

868
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: It was crazy. And so she she's the one that

869
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: grabbed my so so smooth right before this play, came

870
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: up to me and was like, ben your knees because

871
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: we were up at this time, we were probably gonna win.

872
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: And so she's like, been your knees at the free

873
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: throw line because yeah, she's gonna try to take me out.

874
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: And so the game had got out. Yeah a little bit.

875
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: That's dirty. That's dirty, that's dirty.

876
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she came out my knees. So I kind

877
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: of bring her down a little bit and then he gets.

878
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: Up and well they came camera catch up.

879
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: I brought her down, started Michael Cooper. It was so

880
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: funny to watch Coop. But yeah, it was a whole thing.

881
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: So this who pushed this wing on?

882
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: Right?

883
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Rick Mahorn, So you got to see this angle. So

884
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: she does this, then I she comes down and I

885
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: got brought her down, and you know, then the whole

886
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: thing happens. So anyway, this was kind of during that

887
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: era of you know.

888
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: Na week as hell, Greg mahonn though.

889
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: That ship was late and so yeah, this was kind

890
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: of the welcome to the League moment for me. And

891
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: uh yeah, y'all click with the video.

892
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: That palace in Auburn Hills just did his ass and

893
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: running pushed nobody down that night we was in there. Yeah,

894
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: got your ass knocked out, straight up, straight up. That's

895
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 4: my SI, Lisa, my sister. We were on a great relationship,

896
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: like a real brother and such relationship over the last

897
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: seven years within the Big Three.

898
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, like real close. So bottom on out and we'll

899
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: see them today.

900
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: I probably get what was that like again?

901
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: Playing with her?

902
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: Lisa was you know, she's one of the greatest of

903
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: all time, and then you know she was in doing

904
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: her thing, and then you're the new new kid on

905
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: the block that's supposed to kind of be the next coming,

906
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: obviously your own player, but built in the same mold.

907
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: What's crazy is how life comes full circle because at

908
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: twenty two years old, I'm looking at everything ahead of me.

909
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: She retired the year. I gave birth to my daughter

910
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: that season, and I came back and played from July

911
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 3: till the end of that year, so I didn't get

912
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: too full seasons with her, which is one of my

913
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: biggest regrets. But I looked at it through a different

914
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: lens until the end of my career because everything again

915
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: goes full circle. So I'm looking at it as just

916
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: playing the game at twenty two and I'm gonna show

917
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: you and I'm gonna be the best and whatever, and

918
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: and she's looking at it as a respect older built

919
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: the league mentality. And it's crazy because I had that

920
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 3: with Asia, because I came back and played with Asia

921
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: at thirty six thirty seven years old, and you're looking

922
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: at somebody that is one about to take over. She's

923
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: gonna have the reins for a long time. But the

924
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: mentality is crazy because you look at it differently. You know,

925
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: it's hard to be older and kind of like know

926
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: that your days are limited. There are more days that

927
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: have happened than will happen.

928
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: It's hard too.

929
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: It's hard, and it's also hard to accept when you

930
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: know like, because it's if you put the ball in

931
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: the basket, if you dominating, if you're winning things like that,

932
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what you did. And so it's an

933
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: interesting dynamic for me. I have so much more respect

934
00:46:54,760 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: and love for Lisa because it had to be difficult

935
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: to have a you know, a player come in and

936
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: have all this hype and I wasn't even supposed to

937
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: be on the Sparks. She had her daughter the year

938
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: before and they sucked. That's why I got They got

939
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: the number one pig, she was out, and so it's

940
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: just one of those things where I feel super grateful

941
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: to be out here and wear the Sparks jersey. And

942
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: it was because of a lot of legends like Dalisia,

943
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: Milton Jones, you know, Lisa Leslie. I mean down the line,

944
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: Nicki Teasley's. I didn't get to play with Nikki, but

945
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 3: Nicki Teasley's, Michael Cooper's. So I just seem super grateful

946
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: for Lisa. We still stand in touch. Our daughters are

947
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: kind of similar ages, so it's really cool.

948
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you touched on something that on the men's

949
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: professional side will never know, understand or really have. Obviously,

950
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: I have an appreciation for it, but you had a

951
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: child during or after one of years.

952
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: Like what was that?

953
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, that's I mean, motherhood is so incredible.

954
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: But then to lead up to it while you're playing

955
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: and then drop a baby and then get back and

956
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: shape real fast and try to get back.

957
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell is that?

958
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: Like, it's crazy because I remember the moment. I was like,

959
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: I think I'm pregnant. I was coming back from the

960
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: Olympics and I was just thinking it was jetlag, tired,

961
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: you know, I can't get right Beijing time. You know,

962
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 3: it was exhausted. We'd played from October college season, two

963
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: weeks break WNBA, then Olympic break. Then now we're at

964
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: the end of the season. We lost on a heartbreaker.

965
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 3: We go to the you know, I go to San

966
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: Antonio where the finals were, to accept my MVP trophy

967
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: and I got back to the room that night and

968
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 3: I felt sick, threw up. I was like, that's weird.

969
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: All right, get back to La start kind of like

970
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: preparing for the off season. Just moved into a house.

971
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: Sheldon was playing for the Kings at the time, so

972
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: I had to get ready to go to Sacramento. And

973
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: that's when I was like, I'm pregnant, you know, and

974
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: I've always dreamed of being a mom, always dreamed of

975
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: having a kid. And it was just sad at the

976
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: time because my joy like you all have kids and

977
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: can just go out and drop twenty twenty five the

978
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: next game. For me, it was like everybody, who's gonna

979
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: want to know when I when I'm coming back. So

980
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: from the first doctor's appointment, I circled July fifth on

981
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: the calendar. She was supposed to be born May nineteenth,

982
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 3: but our doctor agreed that, you know, going past thirty

983
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: nine weeks isn't great. I was cool because it was

984
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 3: going to push up my week ahead of time. And

985
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: from that point it was me waking up training. So

986
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: my pregnancy was not like eating bond bonds on the couch.

987
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: It was like, okay, as a passer, don't throw up

988
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 3: my belly, throw over here, you know, so that if

989
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: you know I missed. I was in the gym with

990
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: coop shooting up until the Wednesday before I delivered my

991
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: daughter on the elliptical. I had my diet and things

992
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: like that, and at that time doctors were like, no, no,

993
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: getting your heart rate above one ten and it's like,

994
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: how am I going to work? Like come, so stretching

995
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: the rules a little bit. But the hardest part for

996
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: me was like once I had her, because I wanted

997
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: to be a mom, I wanted to be all those

998
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: things to her and not sacrifice that because of what

999
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: I did. And I didn't want my mom motherhood to

1000
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: impact basketball, So it was me just fumbling through life

1001
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: at that point. I nursed her until she was too almost,

1002
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, and she traveled with me everywhere until she

1003
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: was three years old. I'm talking Russia, China, Turkey, all

1004
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: that she rolled. And I'm just grateful that, like Layla

1005
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: was such a great kid, Like she would be like

1006
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: pregame nap. I'd be like, yup, pregame nap, baby, and

1007
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: we'd take our pregame nap And I mean we traveled

1008
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: the world together. So for that, I'm super grateful. But

1009
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: it was a lot like I look back on that

1010
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't know how I woke up

1011
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 3: in every playoff game. She would act a fool, like

1012
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: that's just how it was. She would get sick or

1013
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: have a bad night or something before a playoff game.

1014
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: But basketball doesn't care if you got four hours of sleep,

1015
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: all four, you know, So.

1016
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing like I've never known. Like obviously

1017
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: we've heard women and some of them have been bad

1018
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: stories and and and you know, tough hurdles, but did

1019
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: to kind of walk through that journey with you.

1020
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: I've never heard that, So.

1021
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: I appreciate you sharing that with us.

1022
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: Battles with my Moore went toe to toe in the

1023
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: sixteen finals, came down to the wire. What was it

1024
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: like playing against her, someone who we feel obviously left

1025
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: the game a little too early.

1026
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, this end of this game is crazy.

1027
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1028
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: I think Mayamour was one of those players that I

1029
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: don't know why she went to double, but Mayamore was

1030
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: one of those players I'm happy she did. I don't

1031
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: know why she went to double on that. I just

1032
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 3: got a straight basket cut. But Maya Moore was one

1033
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: of those players that had game like you could defend

1034
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: like this and she was still going to hit that

1035
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: turnaround jump shot. We didn't play against each other in college,

1036
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 3: but we balled against each other in the professional ranks.

1037
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: And I measure a player's ability to really change the opponents, Yeah,

1038
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: this game was crazy to I measure an opponent by

1039
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: if you are looking at that game on that calendar

1040
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: and you know you got to bring it, like where

1041
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 3: you're eyeing what their stats are whatever, and you're kind

1042
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: of measuring yourself and you're like, Okay, they drop twenty

1043
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: five or thirty in this game. I got to come

1044
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: out and do that. And I had always been the

1045
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: younger sister that was doing that to players ahead of me.

1046
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: She was behind me, she was two years behind me,

1047
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: and so to battle against her. I'm still salty about

1048
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen because we should have beat them, and it

1049
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 3: would have been, you know, three championships for them and

1050
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: two for us, which would have looked a lot more even.

1051
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: But I think they showed all our playoff games and

1052
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: it was one point that separated all of those games combined.

1053
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: And so just to think about the battles, how you

1054
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: had to bring your game and we're forgetting about Simona Gusus,

1055
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 3: Sylvia fouls on that team, Lindsay Whalin. So you had

1056
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: to do everything right. And Cheryl Reeves is still running

1057
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 3: the same sets she ran. She's like a Popovich, She's

1058
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: running the same sets, just insert different players. And so

1059
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: somebody was talking to me about guarding Minnesota, and I

1060
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: was like, oh, no, shut up. You had Maya More

1061
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: coming off the stagger, then you had Simone coming off

1062
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: the curl. Then you had Sylvia's big ass duck ducking

1063
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: in and close. Then you had Lindsay Whalen coming off

1064
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: the handoff. I'm like, y'all will be fine. You didn't

1065
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 3: have any of that to guard because you could guard

1066
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: it perfectly and it would still Yeah, you still couldn't

1067
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: stop it. Yeah, still couldn't stop it.

1068
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: You dedicated your twenty sixteen championship to the late Great

1069
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Pat Summit. How much did that? How much did that

1070
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: mean to you?

1071
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: Coach Summing has meant so much in my life, still

1072
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: continues to mean so much in my life. But it

1073
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: was so ironic that we want off of an offensive rebound,

1074
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: and that was all she would talk to me about, like,

1075
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: you could be one of the best offensive rebounders ever.

1076
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: And I'd be like, but I got the shimmy with

1077
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: the left over the right off the glass, I got

1078
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: that fade away into the corner. Coach like on, She's like,

1079
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: you could be one of the best offensive rebounders. And

1080
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: so it was almost like one of those Aha moments

1081
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: when that happened, like she's got me. I mean, it

1082
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: was difficult to watch somebody that is as strong and

1083
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: a hero of yours go through such and battle such

1084
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: an awful disease like Alzheimer's. But Pat was pat through

1085
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: and through, like the reason why I have this tat.

1086
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: I asked her how she got past the difficult days,

1087
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: because when she called to tell me, she was like,

1088
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: if you go and throw a pity party, you're the

1089
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: only one that's gonna be at it. Like, I'm not

1090
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: about to throw a pity party. I'm about to fight

1091
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: this disease and all that. And I was like, how

1092
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 3: do you find that in times of struggle and when

1093
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 3: you don't know what tomorrow is going to look like?

1094
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: And She's like, put one foot in front of the other,

1095
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: left foot, right foot, breathe repeat. So that's kind of

1096
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 3: become my mantra and what I will continue to carry

1097
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: with me. My kids know, my son's call her coach,

1098
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: they know her teachings, and my youngest son is named

1099
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: after her heart Summit is his name. And so she's

1100
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 3: somebody that will forever be a part of my daily

1101
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: doing and what I say and how I hope to present.

1102
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Myself championship with your hometown team in twenty twenty one?

1103
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: What did it mean to go home after your you know,

1104
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: your legendary run in LA. You go home and you're

1105
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: able to win one in your first season.

1106
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: Nothing like it? Man, winning at home in front of

1107
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: people that first saw you pick up a basketball. They

1108
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: had the number one two picks. So it was between

1109
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: LA and Chicago to have the number one pick and eight.

1110
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: And I remember hoping Chicago didn't get it because I

1111
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: didn't want to go back home and deal with that,

1112
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 3: you know, like it takes a special someone like d

1113
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: Rose playing at home, getting drafted there.

1114
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: That was a lot.

1115
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like bron and Cleveland, like that's that's a lot,

1116
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: like tack your requests and just you never get to

1117
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: kind of spread your wings and grow up. But what

1118
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: I found was I wanted to go back home, and

1119
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: I feel like that's really true. Was jay Z like

1120
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: if you let it out as cage and it comes

1121
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 3: back and you know it's here to stay. Yeah, Like,

1122
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: and so I feel like Chicago has always been a

1123
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 3: part of like the fabric of who I am, but

1124
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: also man's super special to win there and with those people,

1125
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 3: My high school math teacher was there, you know, like

1126
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 3: it's just high school coach was there, Like it was

1127
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 3: just it was amazing.

1128
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: The ass you got a chance to win your final

1129
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three with Asia Kelsey in that group

1130
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: you spoke to the I guess you and Lisa and

1131
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: then you finally got to see it on the flip

1132
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: side with obviously Asia and what she's been able to accomplish,

1133
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: and we'll touch on her a little bit, but what

1134
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: was that one like and then seeing her kind of

1135
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: coming into her own as you know, arguably one of

1136
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: the greatest players as well.

1137
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: It's so crazy because there's this like arc of humility

1138
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: right Like when you're young and brash, your humble meter

1139
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: is low. Probably you think you can do anything. My

1140
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: son is in that era of three and a half

1141
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: year old that thinks he can live jumping off of

1142
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: a whole flight of stairs. That's how you are playing

1143
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: initially in your career. You're young, you think you can

1144
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: do whatever, and sometimes you surprise yourself and you can

1145
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: you surprise everybody else. Right middle of your career, you

1146
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: start figuring out the game, you understand who you are,

1147
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: You're like whatever, but you still think you can do whatever,

1148
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: and you still can be the best in whatever. The

1149
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: end of your career, I think that really determines what

1150
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: you're going to be, Like are you going to choose

1151
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: to be humble and honest and looking at yourself and

1152
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: what you're capable of, or are you going to continue

1153
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 3: to live in this facade of what was? And I

1154
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 3: think that the Aces made me real that I am

1155
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: so much more than basketball, but also made me realize

1156
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: that I'm not the Alan Iverson that can go play

1157
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: a role on the Detroit Pistons and it's okay, but

1158
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm not also going to be the Paul Pierces that

1159
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: are saying he was better than Wesley Matts. Matthews at

1160
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: the time, y'all might have to edit this out, but like,

1161
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Where Like you're sitting

1162
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: there and you're like, no, I'm better than him, and

1163
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: it's like, but you're missing the whole point. You may

1164
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: player to player be better, but for the team, he's

1165
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: better in that role, and a lot of old players

1166
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 3: I remember everybody else around them realizing that and them

1167
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: not realizing it. And so it's okay to be honest

1168
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: with yourself where it's like, it's not fun for basketball

1169
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: if I don't have the ball in my hands and

1170
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: if I'm not operating from this position. Because I've done

1171
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: that for so long. Do other players want to extend

1172
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: to play basketball and play another role, Yes, that's great

1173
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: for them. I don't know if I could do that

1174
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: and not make everybody miserable around me. And so it

1175
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: was like at that moment, was like and my foot

1176
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 3: was going on, so it was like, I'm better over

1177
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: here outside lines, I'm better, Like, hey, let's add this,

1178
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: let's do this, encouragement that type of thing, because that

1179
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: was the shift, Like that was the aha moment where

1180
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: I was like Asia getting busy, Like she's MVP, she's

1181
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: got years to come. I want to help her grow

1182
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: in that way and be a support system. So sitting

1183
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: on the sideline watching twenty twenty three championship, I was

1184
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: super happy because of the great people that I was

1185
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: a part of it with. But it's always an asterisk,

1186
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: like it really is. It's always like, is that a chance?

1187
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: Like I know people are going to question that championship

1188
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: because I was not on the court for that, but

1189
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: I think it taught me just as much as the

1190
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: other two championships. Like, I think it taught me, like

1191
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm okay in this life, Like I'm okay with what

1192
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: I have done to move forward with that mindset and

1193
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: it's okay to leave that behind. And yeah, like I

1194
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: think just being a part of three completely different championships

1195
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: is wild. And I'm a little salty because the twenty

1196
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: twenty three ring is the nicest of the three. I'm like,

1197
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: y'all really just put all these diamonds in this ring,

1198
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: but like the other two, they're nice, but Vegas can't

1199
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: win it with that championship.

1200
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is kind of This wasn't even on the list,

1201
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: but it got me thinking. As you're speaking, obviously you

1202
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: being one of the greatest female players of all time.

1203
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: We're watching Broun and although Bronz still has someone left

1204
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: in the tank, there's a little bit of passing of

1205
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: the guard for him. And again, I just like to

1206
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: hear from your mind, and you brought up Alan Iverson

1207
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: and how he kind of struggled with trying to fit

1208
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: in a role. What do you think, I again, just

1209
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: what do you think kind of is going through Bronze

1210
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: head at this timing? You're twenty three, He's starting the

1211
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 1: season on the sideline with some back issues, but understanding

1212
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: that the game is moving on. In his best days,

1213
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, we've all watched them.

1214
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't really know, because I think every player is

1215
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 3: different from whatever role you play. It's just you deciding

1216
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 3: what you want next, like how much you're gonna carve

1217
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: out for yourself next, because if winning is truly the goal,

1218
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 3: then you have to humble yourself and realize, like, maybe

1219
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: you're not going to play this role winning. And to me,

1220
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the reckoning. Like when you I

1221
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: mean father time, it didn't matter how long it is delayed.

1222
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: It is not denied right, Like it's going to catch

1223
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 3: up with you. And what I realize quickly is I'm

1224
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: gonna play these two or three years and ain nobody.

1225
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: People are only gonna remember the bad stuff. They're not

1226
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 3: gonna remember any of the good stuff. They're gonna look

1227
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 3: at me and think I'm old and man. Cannics used

1228
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: to be able to get to that, you know whatever,

1229
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: And it's like the positive was outweighing or the negative

1230
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: was outweighing the positive. And so I think Bron obviously

1231
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: in the amount of years he's played is added to

1232
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: his legacy tremendously. I think a conversation that every player

1233
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: has to have, is this outweighing? Is this more positive

1234
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: than negative? He's never had to deal with injuries before,

1235
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: and so to see somebody as human, I mean, like

1236
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 3: Bron had never had any major injury before. And what

1237
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 3: was it that Christmas game he played at the Warriors

1238
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: years ago when he first got to the Lakers, that

1239
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 3: was the first time he had this significant time. And

1240
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 3: so with these injuries piling up, it's figuring out, you know,

1241
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 3: is it worth it? And sometimes as players, I mean,

1242
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: we grind way past when we should grind.

1243
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: You know, things are getting a little spicy out here

1244
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: in the streets. Was it was an officia who officia

1245
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: went in on the commissioner? The CBA is set to

1246
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: expire soon. People are thinking the lockout maybe looming. You know,

1247
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: stars like k and Clark only making seventy five K.

1248
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: What is your thought process because you were, you know,

1249
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: obviously least than them started it and you had a

1250
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: heavy influence on carrying it to where it is today.

1251
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: And now, you know, I feel lockouts only hurt us.

1252
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: Lockouts only hurt players. What do your thoughts on it?

1253
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: Your's the owners a little bit too.

1254
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's gone right, but but you also got things.

1255
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes this is just lockouts for y'all. Two or actually

1256
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: I was in one ninety eight and ten?

1257
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: Was it ten or nine? What year was it? No?

1258
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: Eleven?

1259
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on kind of what's moving forward

1260
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: for this league and where you hope it continues to grow.

1261
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: To well, obviously, like people respect people with zeros at

1262
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 3: the end of their checks. Like, let's just be honest,

1263
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: Like there's respect element of things when you walk into

1264
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: a room if you have zeros behind your check, and

1265
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 3: so I feel in order for the WNBA to be

1266
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: reputable and to be respected, you have to have zeros

1267
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: behind your check. And with that being said, a number

1268
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: of zeros behind your check. And that has crossed WBA

1269
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 3: off the list for a number of years. Just because

1270
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: of that, that's been the running joke in comments and

1271
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 3: things like that. Where the WNBA now is now it's undeniable.

1272
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: Where sports in general are now, it's undeniable. But for

1273
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 3: so long I think it's been that like wait wait,

1274
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: and as women, it's like in this country, it's always wait, wait,

1275
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: it's always okay, just uh. But now it's like with

1276
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 3: social media with nil. So if you're telling me you

1277
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: can't pay pay players over a million dollars, but you're

1278
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 3: giving coaches. I've never heard of a league where the

1279
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: coach has paid more than the best player. I have

1280
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 3: never and please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't

1281
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: know the best player on the team is going to

1282
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: make more than the head coach. So with all of

1283
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: these owners that are saying, or the WNBA in general

1284
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 3: that's saying we can't play players that, then how are

1285
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 3: you finding this for coaches? Is what would be my

1286
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: first question in the CBA negotiations. But I think there's

1287
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: got to be a tremendous amount of change because it's

1288
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 3: not only impacting on the court salary, it's it's public,

1289
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 3: so people understand what you're playing in the WNBA for.

1290
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 3: So these companies are then coming to you less than

1291
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 3: male counterparts, and women have more follows, sometimes at times

1292
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 3: with more followers, and you look at page backers, what

1293
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: she her followers in college were way more than Jalen

1294
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 3: thugs that got drafted. And so it's just one of

1295
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: those things where it's impacting from top to bottom. And

1296
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm just grateful for social media because I think numbers

1297
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 3: don't lie transparency, and there's transparency and you see with

1298
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 3: nil how much somebody is worth. You know, coming out

1299
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: of school.

1300
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of Unrivaled, you're doing some work for them this year.

1301
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on kind of what they're doing?

1302
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: And to me, I feel like they're pushing the bar

1303
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: and putting pressure in.

1304
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: That is exactly what it's about, is raising the bar

1305
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: because the money is there, just figuring out the business

1306
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 3: plan and maybe again what Afisa said, maybe it's the

1307
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: leadership that's impacting the business that that is the reason

1308
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 3: why they can't pay. But the WB is a capycat league.

1309
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,959
Speaker 3: The NBA is a copycat league. It was one team

1310
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 3: that decided to fly charter and then all of them

1311
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 3: had to because of competitive advantage. Same thing with practice, facility,

1312
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: player experience. I mean, from top to bottom. So I

1313
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: think that we're in a great place, but just got

1314
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: to continue to push them.

1315
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: A lifelong Adidas girl just named or named president of

1316
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: Adidas Women's basketball last year, talked to usbut I mean,

1317
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: you got a fly ass Adidas. I had to really,

1318
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: I was like She's wearing Adidas from head to toe.

1319
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: They make it for men.

1320
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, come on, now, come on we might Yeah,

1321
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: come on, we not.

1322
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: What is that? What is that? What has that been like?

1323
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: It has been amazing. I've been with Adidas since my

1324
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: sophomore year basically in high school, went to Tennessee, which

1325
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 3: was Adidas. We actually just got Tennessee back to Adidas,

1326
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 3: which I'm excited about. Then when I came out to

1327
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 3: go to the WNBA, it was like, I'm gonna be Adidas.

1328
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: It was just figuring out the logistics and everything within

1329
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: the contract. And then ever since then through the ebbs

1330
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 3: and flows, through pregnancy, through going overseas, had a signature

1331
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 3: shoe like all those things. And so to be able

1332
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: to achieve all of my dreams on the court, and

1333
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: then now transition to being able to help others hopefully

1334
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 3: impact the brand and achieve their dreams. I mean, it's

1335
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 3: it's been amazing.

1336
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind when I list these players.

1337
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 3: Asia Wilson, I think, just continuing to get better every

1338
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 3: single game, every single year, She's added something to her game.

1339
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: Cayven Clark.

1340
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 3: Unlimited range, I think, is y I know you said, oh,

1341
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 3: first thing. Okay, No, I think she has transcended. I mean,

1342
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 3: you think about that Midwest fall in love, whatever you

1343
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: think about what Iowa had, sellout crowds, things like that,

1344
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: it transcended to other areas as a result of her

1345
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: ability to connect with people, you know. And I think

1346
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: that that leads back to where the game is now

1347
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 3: in terms of shooting and her taking that and making

1348
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: it better. And Steph Curry talks about it all the time,

1349
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 3: like Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, those are the dudes. And

1350
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 3: Steph has taken that and has added to his craft.

1351
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, I know Diana Tarassi's on

1352
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 3: this list. I think Caitlin Clark has done that because

1353
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 3: Diana was kind of that first one that had that

1354
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: range where when she walked in the parking lot you

1355
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: had to guard her.

1356
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: We'll speak to speak to Diana.

1357
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dina just a competitor. I think is one of

1358
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 3: the deadliest shot makers, no matter who was in her face,

1359
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 3: no matter what country you're in. I played against her overseas.

1360
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 3: Some of the super birds of this on our podcast,

1361
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: like one of the some of the craziest games were

1362
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 3: actually games nobody saw similar to like the Redeemed Team

1363
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: and the Dream Team with the Select Team, like it

1364
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 3: was overseas. That were some of those games, and Dinah

1365
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 3: was just didn't matter what continent she was on, she

1366
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 3: was on, it was gonna be an off night for you.

1367
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: Angel Reese, Angel Reaes.

1368
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think just a tremendous competitor, athletic. I

1369
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: think has the versatility and movement at six' four to

1370
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: be able to dominate the game in a number of.

1371
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: Ways page.

1372
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 3: Silky smooth mid range. Master she kind of reminds me

1373
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 3: a little bit in her ability to get to her,

1374
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 3: spots almost Like shay a little. Bit whereas like everybody's

1375
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 3: going towards three point shooting and that's, great that's well,

1376
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 3: Whatever but what has been sustainable in basketball has been

1377
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 3: that mid. Range maya had, it you, know Obviously diana had,

1378
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: It sue had. It page is kind of like add

1379
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 3: into that as.

1380
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,520
Speaker 1: Well Cheryl, Miller Cheryl.

1381
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 3: Miller, man she is my, goo the PERSON i looked up.

1382
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 3: TO i remember my dad showing me her and how she.

1383
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: Moved she just moved. Different it was athletic at six,'

1384
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 3: two had, that ATTITUDE and i grew up with. Older

1385
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 3: brothers She. Had reggie it's, so crazy like how much

1386
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 3: shit she TALKS and i. Love it and so to

1387
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 3: see her play that game in, the eighties. It's crazy

1388
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: so she was way ahead of.

1389
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: HER time i want to ask. ONE more i want

1390
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: to ask SOMETHING that i don't want to keep it too.

1391
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: Much longer you used to have and you kind of

1392
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: just touched. On it THE w nba wasn't necessarily your

1393
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: High your you had to go make your money in

1394
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: the off. Season overseas what was, THAT like, i mean

1395
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: that's basketball pretty much. Year round the one thing that

1396
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to be is in the w In the

1397
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: states and have a. Strong league we're still trying to get.

1398
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: That there you had to really go make your.

1399
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: Money, overseas yeah my summer job WAS. THE wba I

1400
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: mean i PLAYED the wba HUNDRED because i loved the

1401
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: GAME and i wanted to play and the ball. WAS

1402
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 3: bouncing i wanted to play in front of people that,

1403
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: you Know, Spoke, ENGLISH yeah I, spoke english and all

1404
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 3: of those things made my Marketing endorsements Adidas and gatorade

1405
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: and you know that type. Of thing but it, was

1406
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 3: overseas WHERE like i take care of, my family, you

1407
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 3: KNOW and i, mean rolexes the black diamonds as gifts

1408
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: from our, you know our owners, Over there, russian, owners

1409
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: chefs drivers and. Beautiful apartments we. Flew charter we were

1410
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 3: treated like professional athletes. Over there and with that, being

1411
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: said it was. STILL overseas I mean i was still Playing, In.

1412
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 3: Katernberg russia my daughter's first school Was. In russia She.

1413
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 3: Spoke Russian and i'm grateful for the experience, and, honestly

1414
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 3: LIKE if i had it to do, over again those are.

1415
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 3: The OPTIONS do I wish i could have? Stayed STATESIDE

1416
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: do I wish i could have had an off season

1417
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: to work? On, stuff yes but that's how you that's

1418
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: how maade. My, money yeah, all right.

1419
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: Quick hitters first thing to come, to mind top five

1420
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: women hoopers of all time and don't be shy.

1421
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: WOMEN'S hoopers i love how you DIDN'T, say WBA because

1422
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 3: I Think cheryl miller gets left out because there was.

1423
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 3: No League But cheryl miller is definitely like my top.

1424
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: Women's hooper I'd Say. Cheryl Miller cappy pondecks are SOMEBODY

1425
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 3: that i looked, Up TO so i, would say just

1426
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 3: in terms of me modeling. My Game, Cappy Pondexter cheryl miller.

1427
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 3: Were Huge tina thompson is another one that was huge.

1428
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 3: For me she was a post player that was were

1429
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 3: her lipstick and was fly on. The court but knock

1430
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: it down was that transition knockdown for that wasn't that stereotypical,

1431
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: post player you KNOW what? I MEAN and i really

1432
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 3: loved watching. Her Play tisha penachero was one of the

1433
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 3: Best passers i've ever seen in. MY life i watched

1434
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: Her at odu. A lot my brother actually called us

1435
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 3: on the phone and he, was like there's This girl

1436
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 3: odu Going Around. Bradley brais, you know women's basketball team

1437
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 3: is crazy and she. Was Playing so i've known teach

1438
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 3: for a. Long time. She's UNBELIEVABLE and i would say,

1439
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 3: my fifth honestly would probably Be shamikhlholest claw of PEOPLE

1440
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: that i really looked up To playing Shamiko host claw

1441
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 3: was that. Mid range she moved DIFFERENT and i always

1442
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: would always be out doing the and, one mixtape trying

1443
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: to like not drobble like this or have a Shot

1444
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: where i'd step into IT like, i LIKED like i,

1445
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 3: like moving, you KNOW and i like not cone drills

1446
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 3: but like just reacting and things, like That and shamikel, was,

1447
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 3: like yeah.

1448
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 2: She Was That.

1449
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: Alan Iverson and i'm gonna tell, y'all something and y'all

1450
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 3: better not bring this back in my face because we

1451
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 3: talking about, Back then we're not talking about. Right Now,

1452
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 3: bow Wow bow wow was on. MY wall i was

1453
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 3: a Little. BOW wow i just don't know across the

1454
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 3: plan run through my mind like all, The TIME like

1455
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: i knew Every single. BOWE lyric i met him at

1456
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: a meet and greet and. LOOKED down i had my

1457
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 3: cango head On My fu. Bou, shirt YEAH bow i

1458
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: was like BOW and B two k Were my that was.

1459
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: ONE album i. Repeat.

1460
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 3: ANYTHING jay, I mean i'm A jay. Z fan i,

1461
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 3: Would say i'm like real heavy blueprint? Right now YEAH

1462
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: like thatnt.

1463
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah them Some big bok boys had a crush. ON

1464
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 4: themselves I, See, Mj kobe, BRON rank i gotta.

1465
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 3: Rank, Them. YEAH okay i believe that if you are,

1466
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 3: the blueprint then you are what everyone is trying. To

1467
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 3: COPY and i grew up In the chicago LAND and

1468
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 3: mj was like all of. Those THINGS so i WOULD say,

1469
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: Mj one, Kobe two, Bron THREE and I know i'm

1470
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 3: gonna get killed. Being out i'm.

1471
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: With you you said the blueprint and the, blueprint too

1472
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: were talking.

1473
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: About and then talk about and then we have, Somebody,

1474
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 3: listening like let's put in, perspective though Bron Is karl

1475
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 3: malone's size doing the things that, he DOES and i

1476
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:11,480
Speaker 3: just am enamored by how he has continued to reinvent,

1477
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 3: his game continued dominance all of. Those things so hats

1478
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 3: off Respect. TO bron I just i idolized the little

1479
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 3: footwork and the like critique AND the i just all

1480
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 3: that and you could, just Tell like kobe was the

1481
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 3: blueprint two. OF blueprint i mean just from Working with

1482
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 3: kobe in, The gym like, he's like are you a?

1483
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 3: Toe spinner are you a? Heel spinner like nobody's ever

1484
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: asked me? That, Before yeah and so it's just like

1485
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 3: he's Like in jordan would rock are you? A rocker

1486
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 3: like what? Do you, i'm like nobody's ever asked me.

1487
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: That before So like i'm a student of, the GAME

1488
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 3: and I just i geek over.

1489
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: That, shit yeah he was trying to teach the twins.

1490
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: That shit at ten, Years old you've got to spin

1491
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 1: on your toe This so, i'm, like oh these motherfuckers just.

1492
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 3: Started, dribbling YEAH step.

1493
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: I have had none of that Was A?

1494
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: Fowler records did he do?

1495
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: The line got a?

1496
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: Nice? Spin yeah you.

1497
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: Do the line with the, twins though where you had

1498
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: to spin on the.

1499
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: Same up top and then step around the cone and

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Speaker 3: a big believer in like people that don't see eye.

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