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The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every day. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: Today. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: We're in Minneapolis, Minnesota, home of the Goopers, but we 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: don't play the Goophers tonight, but the Goopers on Saturday 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: night play the Tammis of Saint Thomas. That's over in 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Saint Paul in five hours, five hours. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Boy, we got a good show for you. 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Boys have done a great job. Chris Flika is going 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: to join us twenty five after the hour. If you've 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: watched Big Noon kick Off, you know he does the 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: bear Bets. The bear Bets is also a podcast, and 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: we'll get his picks on all of this weekend's games, 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: including the two ranked teams that play Friday Night one 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: on Fox. In addition to that, I think we have 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: a really interesting discussion up coming on if the customer 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: is always right in professional sports or collegiate sports, whatever 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: it's it's I think Jason has honed in on a really, 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: really smart argument that I want to have as a discussion. 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: We'll do so upcoming in fifteen minutes. I want to 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: start with another one. So I'm trying to figure out 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: why I'm not more fired up or I don't have 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: the energy for these arguments in college football as the 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: college football playoff rankings came out the other night, and 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: I think I've have figured it out sort of and 32 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna relate it to I'm an relate to the 33 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: UFC and something I've always thought about the UFC and 34 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: MMA and why it despite the fact that it has 35 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: a greater consistency of fan bases, you know, like you're 36 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna have you put on UFC whatever number they're up to, 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: and the same people are gonna watch every single time, 38 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: and the big ones you'll draw in some of the 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: mainstream but the reason that it doesn't generate the revenue 40 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: and maybe the eyes of boxing at least one of 41 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: the reasons to me is one of the reasons that 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: college football season, though really good and really talented, seems 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: to lack the I don't know, the social equity, right, 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: or people aren't arguing talking about it because they know 45 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: they'll be a final conclusion, right there'll be a tournament. 46 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of college basketball and there's 47 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: a lot of UFC in it. 48 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: Here's the argument. 49 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm looking at all of these teams, and 50 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: right now, unlike previous years, now previous years, if we 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: get to week twelve of the college fooball season, that's 52 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: we are, by the way, week twelve, and that counts 53 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: week zero. So seriously, we're in thirteen weeks. Week twelve, 54 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: we have nine teams, all of whom are in the 55 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: biggest conferences, and actually, if you really want to get 56 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: down to it, we have eleven team. Eleven teams in 57 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: only the biggest the Power for conferences, and Notre Dame 58 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: who have one loss or less like that's virtually unheard of. 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: So the first part to it is some of the 60 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: reason we don't have have these unbelievable games and these 61 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: unbelievable arguments and these is because we still the best 62 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: of the best on some level. Haven't all played each other. Right, 63 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Indiana still hasn't played Ohio State, A and M. You know, 64 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: A and M for example, is nine to zero on 65 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: the year, but they haven't yet played Texas. They don't 66 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: play Georgia. They don't play Alabama unless they play in 67 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: the SEC championship game. Right, Alabama has played Georgia. That's 68 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: why Georgia has one loss on the season. Outside of that, again, 69 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: you have all these one loss teams. So some of 70 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: it is that the season and the schedule is built 71 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: for the crescendo. Some of it is that with the 72 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: intent of or the belief that you can create greater parody, 73 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: there's less parody than ever. 74 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: The schools that. 75 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Are winning, by and large, not all have spent the 76 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: most money, and that's why they have so they have 77 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: schedules that are backloaded, and they spend more money. So 78 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: there's fewer and fewer upsets than there used to be. 79 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Those things I do believe to be true. But the 80 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: last part is think about when. 81 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: Oregon lost earlier this year. 82 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: To Indiana, did anybody think Oregon's season was over? The 83 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: answer is no, Right, Ole Miss lost to Georgia, Right, 84 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: it would take a colossal upset. 85 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: They only have. 86 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: Two regular season games remaining. Okay, Florida, who's already fired 87 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: their coach upcoming this weekend, and then at Stark Vegas 88 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: after a week off after Thanksgiving in the Egg Bowl, 89 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: and if they survive both of those two games, they're 90 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: gonna go to the College wall playoff. And what was 91 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: the it game? I guess the Georgia game sort of. 92 00:05:52,240 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: So here's the UFC argument. Mixed mar arts. Though, you 93 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: have some guys who are the best of the best 94 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: of the best, and by the account and not my opinion, 95 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: because my opinion honestly really doesn't matter, especially in mixed 96 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: martial arts, but by the opinion of many, the best 97 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: mixed martial artists will have five, six, even seven losses, 98 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, two or three easy because it's not easy, 99 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: because you can win a fight overall, but get caught 100 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: in a bad spot, get whold, get held, and get 101 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: tapped out. It happens more often than the George Foreman 102 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: knockout that made him heavyweight champion. 103 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: At forty years old. 104 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: It just does the reality of the UFC is you 105 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: don't get to duck people the way that boxers get 106 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: to duck people. There aren't the tomato cans the way 107 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: they're tomato cans for boxers. So you don't have these 108 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: dramatically inflated records that appear to be greater than they are. 109 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: But it does draw the attention of the mainstream fan. 110 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: Like we can argue back and forth all you want 111 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: on how it's it's great to see the best play 112 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the best, but just like fans are having it, gonna 113 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: have a tough time like Oklahoma fans if they lose 114 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: this weekend. I've said this a long time, Like Brent 115 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: Vetibles has turned this thing around. 116 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: They're way better. 117 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: John Mateer hasn't been playing well since he got hurt. Yet, 118 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: even if if they lose this weekend in Alabama, there's 119 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: a chance, outside chance they lose one more this year. 120 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Like a Missouri game, Missouri is really good game. Missouri 121 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: is playing for their college fall playoff. Live Probably don't 122 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: get it again. I think Oklahoma's better, but there's a 123 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: world in which they If Oklahoma turns around and go 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: and goes eight and four on the season, and they 125 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: have a home win against Michigan, a home win against Auburn, 126 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: that should be seen as a great year. But because 127 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Oklahoma fans are like boxing fans. They're used to their 128 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: teams winning eleven and twelve and minimum ten games. It's 129 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: really hard to convince people, no, no, you had a 130 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: great year. You just played a tougher schedule than you've 131 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: ever played, right, that's my argument, my argument and buyer, 132 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: maybe this is meaning to you because you're as big 133 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: or a bigger college football fan than I am. I 134 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons we, even as hardcore college 135 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: fell fans, but especially the mainstream fan, we are gonna 136 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: end up with very likely at most one undefeated team, 137 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: and it might be Ohio State, might be Okay or 138 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State Indiana. One of those two teams will probably 139 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: end up undefeated, maybe nobody else does. And then we're 140 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: arguing over these two and three loss teams. The regular 141 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: season games don't matter as much because you can drop 142 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: one or even drop two and still survive. And then 143 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: it takes away from the perception of their greatness, not 144 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: the reality of it, the perception of how good they 145 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: are because they have two and three losses next their name, 146 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: even though they're playing a far more difficult schedule than 147 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: teams in the past played. 148 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Okay, that's my argument, doesn't make any sense. 149 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: I do think. 150 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: I do think that it is along the lines of 151 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: what Lane Kiffin had previously said on if we're looking 152 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: at these teams ten and two teams, nine to three 153 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 4: teams maybe better than eleven and one teams. And I 154 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: think that his point is from the SEC and the 155 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 4: schedule that they play, that he feels that there's a 156 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: lot more opportunities for losses. And I think that that's 157 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: why we actually have a committee to decipher those things. 158 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: It's why we look at non conference schedule. But I 159 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: do think that your point of do we not look 160 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: at say we'll just use Ole Miss for an example 161 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: of them being ten and two as not being as 162 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: elite because of those two blemishes, Yeah, I think we 163 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: do look at it that way. I think we've actually 164 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: always looked at it that way in college football, and 165 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: now it's more magnified. In fact, the undefeated team was 166 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 4: a lot of times looked at much more in a nicer, 167 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: better fashion than anybody with a loss. And if you 168 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: would even look at the college football playoff rankings right now, Doug, 169 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: which is the reason why we're supposed to have this committee, 170 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: I don't think that it's any surprise that you have 171 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 4: three unbeatens in the top three, and then you have 172 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: eight and one, eight and one, nine and one, nine 173 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: and one, eight and one. So they're just grouping everybody 174 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: by losses, and when you have a curved number with 175 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 4: your loss, you are going to look like you are 176 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: inferior to the team that doesn't have a loss or 177 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: just has that one loss. 178 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think it's a part of human nature 179 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: that you and I are admitting, and I don't know 180 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: if everybody admits. Is that again, like this Oklahoma team, 181 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: if they're in the Big twelve, my expectations, right and 182 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: if Texas, what even if Texas was in the Big 183 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: twelve and they have one loss right there, eight and one, 184 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: with the one loss being the exact same loss to Texas, 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: it's viewed. 186 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: Greater than the one with two losses. Now, it just is. 187 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: And it's one of the things that we've done with 188 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: boxing for a long times, Like, yeah, we fought a 189 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: bunch of tomato cans. 190 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's. 191 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Thirty three, and oh, it's like the at least thirty 192 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: three and oh, like yeah, but he fought he fought 193 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: like three guys that were missing an eye one guy 194 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: was missing a hand, you know. I mean think of 195 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: Floyd mayweathery Floyd Mayweather. If you ask boxing people, no 196 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: one will say Floyd Mayweather's the greatest fighter of all time. 197 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: He's really really smart and he was really really smart 198 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: at the fight game. From this perspective, his last ten years, 199 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: he didn't fight anybody who had any chance of beating him. 200 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: None. 201 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: Even when he thought fought Manny Pacquiao, he waited like 202 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: three years. And of course when he fought Pacyo, he 203 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: had the bad shoulder, but he waited out Pacio till 204 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: Pacio was out of his prime and was kinvin ol'man 205 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: and there's no way he could lose. 206 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: He didn't fight any bud that. 207 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: Could beat him, and so when you look at his record, 208 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: yeah he's undefeated, but I mean he kind of stopped 209 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: fighting people and knew how to win fights and used 210 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: his brain for the last ten years of his his 211 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: ownership of whatever division. Whereas you know, you go to 212 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: the Julio Cesar Chavez, like how many fights do you fight? 213 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: Right? 214 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: But he's you know, the layman would never say that 215 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: guy is the greatest fighter ever because he's got like 216 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: six seven loss like yeah, he fought like one hundred 217 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: times and he fought a bear once that was hungry. 218 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: I just Jason and I were talking today was I 219 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: was like, it's a good college for all weekend. Matter 220 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: of fact, it's a great college for all weekend. You 221 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: got a bunch of ranked teams, you got some, you 222 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: got a big game of the SEC, you got Iowa 223 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: SC's interesting. I'm interested in a bunch of these things. 224 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: But there's no oomph to it. Were in November, this 225 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: is college football's time, and it's like, yeah, it doesn't 226 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: really matter they lose. The good teams are still going 227 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: to play in the playoff anyway. And it really has 228 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: And then the numbers change and it really has taken 229 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: away from the elite teams because so many of them 230 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: have a loss. Now going to sustain two, gonna stain 231 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: three losses because all the good teams are now in 232 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, one of two leagues. 233 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: Really And not to focus on ole Miss, but the 234 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: one part where I will differentiate from you is to 235 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: your point of ole Miss making the postseason with maybe 236 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: two losses on their schedule. 237 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: If they end up losing. 238 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: Like I would say that loss at Georgia and what 239 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: a magnificent game. 240 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: It was. 241 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: If they win that game, now we're talking about whow 242 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: is there a changing of the guard and the ole Miss? 243 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: Ole Miss knocked off Georgia. Can they do the same 244 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: if they would face Alabama in the championship game. It's 245 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin, it's all of that. I think that there 246 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: would be a lot more hype about that. But I 247 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: think it just changed our conversation about Ole Miss. So 248 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: then when they go and beat Oklahoma, that's a really 249 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: really big win. But maybe we didn't look at it 250 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: as as big of a win because they were coming 251 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: off of the loss from the previous week. So maybe 252 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: we unfortunately Burial Miss because we just pushed them aside. 253 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that we did, but just that one 254 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: blemish now in their in their lost column. But that 255 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: game against Oklahoma was very very big for them, and 256 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: so now Ole Miss maybe just has this different look. 257 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 4: I think it's the point of if they lose, we 258 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: have to look at their other games differently. Oregon is 259 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: a great example of this past weekend of when they 260 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: just go and are able to pull off that crazy 261 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: win against Iowa. It would have been a lot different 262 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: if Oregon was unbeaten in that scenario, right, like all 263 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: of a sudden, here's an unbeaten squad and we're like, man, 264 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: they were taken to the task, just like Indiana was 265 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: to Penn State. But I would almost say what India, 266 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: what Oregon accomplished, was much bigger than what Indiana accomplished 267 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: this past weekend. 268 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: But I think Iowa, yeah absolutely. 269 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, hell yeah, hell yes. 270 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: But we look at the Indiana comeback and the Gus 271 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: Johnson call and say that was amazing, Like Oregon's accomplishments 272 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: to win that game were much bigger than what Indiana accomplished. 273 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: You and I completely agree, But because they have a 274 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: loss next to their name, you're like. 275 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 276 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: And I would also say it's because it's Iowa. And 277 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: no matter what, people are always going to doubt Iowa 278 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: because they think Iowa couldn't score, and in that particular game, 279 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: they couldn't. It was a great football game, a great 280 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: football game. It's like it's like I think I said 281 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: that on group text. Not all ten to seven games 282 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: are bad games. Some ten seven games, the one on 283 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football last week was the Iowa. 284 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: The Iowa game was not. 285 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: It was just a well played, not great offensive, hard hitting. 286 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: It was a good football game, and then Oregon really, 287 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: on one pass completed late, ends up kicking a field 288 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: goal to win it. 289 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: I know it's ifs and butts, but if Iowa had 290 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: won that game, and if they were to win on 291 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: Saturday against USC in one out, if they won their 292 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: final game, they would be in the playoff. 293 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: Why are you guys doing this to me? 294 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: Just? 295 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: I know, I know, but but I guess Sam, do you? 296 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I understand you look at it through a lens of 297 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: an Iowa fan, But is what we're saying making sense? 298 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's the only reason. Like somebody 299 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: tweeted at us too many stoppages. It's true, it's a 300 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: harder to watch game because there's so many more plays 301 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of stoppages, but that's more 302 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: in stadium than anything else. In stadium, stoppages are just death, 303 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: it's really really. 304 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: They've done a better job though with RU I mean, 305 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: adding the two minute warning I'm not a fan of, 306 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: but they've done a better job in changing rules to 307 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: try to make things go faster. 308 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and the clock running now as opposed to 309 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: stopping with every incomplete pass is better. Otherwise you were 310 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: getting four and a half hour games. It was interminablie. Yeah, 311 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about more of perception, lead up to games, 312 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: reaction to games. It's just changed because of look, they're 313 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: all professionals now, everybody bets on them now. 314 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: A lot of things have changed. 315 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: But one of the major parts of changes we don't 316 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: we rarely will end with no losses or one losses 317 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: and every game really really matters. Whereas the teams with 318 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: no losses, they can lose the game or maybe two 319 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: over the last month of the season and still make 320 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: the college fell playf and we never had that before. 321 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 6: I'm okay with that, though, I'm okay with the relative 322 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 6: lack of drama right now. I think, you know, we 323 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 6: I think that if you take care of business in 324 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 6: the first half of the season and you're undefeating, you 325 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 6: lose a game or two in November, I still think 326 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 6: that that's, you know, your resume should hold up. 327 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: I have argued that, and it's up to the fan. 328 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: It's maybe their responsibility, but there are games on the 329 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 4: schedule that you don't realize are important games. I remember 330 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: last year, I think it was Illinois Nebraska. Maybe it 331 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 4: was the year before they played a Friday night game, 332 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: maybe late September, early October, but they were both had 333 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: really good records at that time. 334 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: I think it was last season, and that. 335 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: Essentially could have been a college football playoff elimination game 336 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: for whoever wins that contest. And I think that's we 337 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: almost have to change our thinking towards this and how 338 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: we're looking at these because there are more games there. 339 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 4: There's no doubt there are more games that are meaningful. 340 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: They may not mean as much, but there are more 341 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: games that are meaningful. With this current format in college football. 342 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: There are more games meaningful, and there are more and 343 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: there are more games that are meaningful, but their final 344 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: score is not. It's a it's just a different way 345 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: of doing something which we've all been fans of since 346 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: my birth right, and it's different to cheer for it. 347 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: It's like, wait, what matters? What doesn't matter? It's very 348 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: confusing and and Sam, to your point, you're right, the 349 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: drama is kind of cooked, baked in, and the last 350 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks are going to be great. But that's 351 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: not what college football has always been. That's the big. 352 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: Thing I've always enjoyed. 353 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, I've I've always I've always 354 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 6: been a proponent of allowing teams to lose a game 355 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 6: or two. 356 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, listen again, you're right. 357 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean the truth is that now we're allowing coaches 358 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: to have their teams of right, that's you should be well, Doug. 359 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 6: Look at Iowa losing at Iowa State early on by 360 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 6: a field goal and then losing by five really seven 361 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 6: to Indiana, and then they had a chance if they 362 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 6: had beaten Oregan to put themselves back in the conversation, 363 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 6: and that grace I think is a good thing to 364 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 6: be allowed. 365 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: I agree. I'm just telling you that's never how college 366 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: football was. 367 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I like it matters. 368 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: And you lose one, you're like, oh my god, we 369 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: may be done. You lose two, it's over now. It's 370 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: like you lose two, like I don't lose a third, 371 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: But it all depends on who that third is too, 372 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: and what everybody else does. 373 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not I'm definitely. I don't think Iowa was 374 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 6: in the conversation. But I look at a team like Vanderbilt, 375 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 6: like there have two losses, and like the teams that 376 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 6: are kind of right on the you know, right on 377 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 6: the edge of making the playoff. They're the ones that 378 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 6: have the best plots going on right now, like the 379 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 6: greatest drama. 380 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 7: This is the best of the Done Dot Leap Show 381 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio. 382 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 383 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: So here's the question, all right, the argument, it's not 384 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: even an argument. The reality is that the Dallas Mavericks 385 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: fired Nico Harrison because at home games it got to 386 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: be too much fire Nico. And again, let's just be honest. 387 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis's hurt, Kyrie Irving is hurt. Team looks like crap, right, 388 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: So is. 389 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: That a logical reason? 390 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: And again I'm actually I wouldn't do it, But I 391 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: think that Jason Sewart brings up a great point where 392 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Jaysus like, look in any other business, the customer is right. 393 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: This is a customer based business. The customers were furious 394 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: with Nico Harrison, blamed him for the trade. He essentially 395 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: is responsible for the trade. Doesn't matter if they got 396 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: if it went up the ladder that it had to 397 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: stuck Outleb show here on Fox Sports Radio, we hait 398 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: the Nico Harrison thing one second, one point a billion 399 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: sounds light for the Padre, right, it sounds light for 400 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: the Padres. But whatever, Maybe they don't own their stadium 401 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: and they're in San Diego. 402 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Feels like a bargain. 403 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Like if I had one point eight billion dollars, I 404 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: think the Padres would be a damn goodbye byer. 405 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: Let me get your opinion. Okay, actually, let's just do this, Jason. 406 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was such a really good point, and 407 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: I know I sort of made it, but I wasn't 408 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: your voice your words if you could so, Dan. 409 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: Can hear it from out of your mouth? Is that 410 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: essentially it? 411 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: The customer is always right, and the customer has clearly 412 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: stated they don't want Nico Harrison running the Mavericks. It 413 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't be that big a deal that the Mavericks did 414 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: what the customer wants, which is what you're supposed to 415 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: do when running a business. 416 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: I think that my take is a little bit different 417 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 5: than the customer's always right. I know that's the cliche 418 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: and it sounds good, but I think that what my 419 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: take was is this, this became an untenable situation. Untenable 420 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 5: they the players were being distracted at their own home 421 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: games by hatred for the general manager. This became untenable 422 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: in the building where your consumers go, for your players 423 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: to play in front of that crowd, and the ownership 424 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 5: basically said, we're going to not only listen to our 425 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 5: fans that we made an awful mistake, probably, but we're 426 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 5: also going to make this more tenable by eliminating this distraction. 427 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: So the question Dan is do you agree with that 428 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: premise as to why you make the move. 429 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 430 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: I mean I felt that Nico Harrison did not do 431 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: his job the moment he traded Luca. And some people 432 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: say that your job as a general manager is to 433 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: win championships, and that may seem like the obvious, but 434 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: I don't think that. I think that Mavericks fans again 435 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: would rather just be able to have Luca be their 436 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: guy for the next fifteen years, and if they don't 437 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: win a championship then so be it. 438 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: They just but would they really. 439 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Like again, I understand, I know they have said that. Okay, 440 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: but let's just say let's let's let's build. 441 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: Let me build the. 442 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: Scenereio for me, Okay, for you, Dan, Let's say he 443 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: continues to come in heavy and on and off with 444 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: injuries because he's carrying too much weight and he's really good, 445 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: but they don't win a championship. Do you think they 446 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: would be the same level of fandom form. 447 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: I think that they they They absolutely adored him. 448 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 4: Maybe I shouldn't have said the next fifteen years, but 449 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: I would say for the next five years they wanted 450 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: Luka Doncic to be their guy. 451 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: And so that's really. 452 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: So even and by the way, we're not even talking 453 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 4: about the crappy package they got in return. 454 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 455 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: So, but that's completely separate to Jason's point and of 456 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 4: Cooper Flag's mom saying like, yes, stop chanting fire Nico 457 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: when we're shooting free throws, like like to that point, 458 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: like that's where it finally, yeah, finally got to Yeah. 459 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: I just think that. 460 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Danie Jeremiah joins this year on the Doug Gottlieb Show DJ, 461 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about how Jason stated, and I do agree 462 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: with this idea. It's a little bit of the customers 463 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: always right. He was just like, hey, look, it was 464 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: untenable in Dallas. Dan agreed, like, untenable in Dallas. Here's 465 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: my perspective on it, guys, which I had not yet shared. 466 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: I sat in the bleachers and Lambeau and I listened 467 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: to what I think are great football fans, Like they're 468 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: not on the phones, they're not worried about other stuff. 469 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: Obviously it's a Monday night, so we're about fantasy football. 470 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: But I mean, by the end of the game, every 471 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: member of the Green Bay Packers should be cut, every 472 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: coach should be fired. And they lined up and lost 473 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: on a fairly unmakeable sixty five yard field goal with 474 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: the win at at their back, and they're five to 475 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: three and one on the season. My point is that 476 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: when I was sitting there, I listened to the fans, 477 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: and I felt dumber because of it. I just did, 478 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: because they they now have some they have some a 479 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: lot more information than they ever have, but they think 480 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: they have everything, and look, I was I My difference 481 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: is I'm a fan, but I admit I don't know why, 482 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: Like why weren't they throwing the ball? More like, well, 483 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: they lost their left tackle and they lost their tight end, 484 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: and the tight end they replaced their left tackle with 485 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: can't block, and so they didn't want Jordan Love to 486 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: get to get blindsided every time. Where are you on 487 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: the untenable nature of the Mavericks, and that's ultimately what 488 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: led to them changing GMS. 489 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 8: I think anytime if you move on from a you know, 490 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 8: base of the franchise, you know type transcendent type player, 491 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 8: the stakes are very very high, no question, and the 492 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 8: challenges when you look throughout all all sports, it's very 493 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 8: rarely that when you trade one of those guys and 494 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 8: you can go to one Soto and baseball, you can 495 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 8: go through all the different sports that you know. Normally, 496 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 8: even if you've got a great haul, which they didn't there, 497 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 8: you're not going to be able to approximate the value 498 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 8: in the stardom that just walked out the door. So 499 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 8: anytime you do that, it's just a very dangerous proposition, 500 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 8: even if you can justify it, but you feel like 501 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 8: it's the right move and you've got to go in 502 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 8: that direction. But he just he was never going to 503 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 8: be able to overcome that. You know, he was as 504 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 8: a general manager, he was going to be the point 505 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 8: person there. He was going to be viewed as as 506 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 8: the reason why their face of the franchise is no 507 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 8: longer there. And that's that's just throughout all sports. That's 508 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 8: difficult to work through. 509 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the opposite side of his Landerfields got 510 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: fired as GM of the Hawks, and he didn't make 511 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: that move. And look, I don't think that. I don't 512 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: think that Trey Young is anywhere in the solar system 513 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: of Luca. But he's as popular in Atlanta as Luca 514 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: is in Dallas. And by not pulling that trade, they 515 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: accepted their faith as never achieving much and he got fired. 516 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: So you can be damned if you do, damned if 517 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: you don't. Okay, but what about the Packers? Was it 518 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: because they were down left tackle on a tight end? 519 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: Like why were they so conservative on Monday Night? 520 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 8: I don't know. I mean, that's that was just kind 521 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 8: of bizarre to me. I just think when you're playing 522 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 8: the better teams and on the bigger stages, especially when 523 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 8: you get into the postseason. Again, I don't think this 524 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 8: is just football. I think it's all sports. Aggression is 525 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 8: usually rewarded. And to me that I think they're to 526 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 8: that place as a franchise, like they're ready to go 527 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 8: right now. This is their window, this is their time. 528 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 8: It's not time to be cautious, it's time to be aggressive. 529 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 8: And they've done that in personal it's time to do 530 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 8: that now on the field and their play style, So 531 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 8: that to me has been a little bit of a disconnect. 532 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: Okay, what about the what about the other side? Okay, 533 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: the other side was the Eagles Again, I walk away. 534 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: They win the game really on two offensive plays, right 535 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: Sagua out in the flat and then the unbelievable throw 536 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: and catch to to DeVante Smith. But I actually understand 537 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: aj Brown's argument to a certain extent, like he had 538 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: two completely nondescript catches. It's it's like they don't even 539 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: try and feature him. Why is their offense not just 540 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: so pedestrian, but pedestrian despite the fact they have some 541 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: really talented pieces. 542 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 8: I just think that's the way that the quarterback likes 543 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 8: to play football, and it's, you know, about making him comfortable. 544 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 8: And I speak out of both sides of my mouth 545 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 8: here because I talked about the need to be aggressive, 546 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 8: but they are aggressive with him, and they have been 547 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 8: in super Bowls and on some big stages, but it 548 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 8: hasn't really been required for them to navigate the regular season. 549 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 8: And this is just kind of the mundane, boring brand 550 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 8: of football that they play that's been rewarded with success 551 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 8: so I totally understand AJ Brown is a you know, 552 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 8: lead elite player who could be piling up tons and 553 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 8: tons of numbers elsewhere. But you know, I've never had 554 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 8: I've never had an interview with the player when they're 555 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 8: coming to the draft process where when you ask him, 556 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 8: would you rather, you know, have the individual stats and 557 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 8: success or win a Super Bowl. I mean, they all 558 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 8: give the lip service so they want to win a 559 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 8: super Bowl. But this is kind of a this is 560 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 8: like truth theorem to AJ Brown because that's playing this 561 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 8: way is how they've won super Bowls and it's how 562 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 8: they think they can do it this year. But it's 563 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 8: going to be at the sacrifice of his numbers and 564 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 8: his personal success. 565 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: Brian Dabele fired, What was your reaction? 566 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 8: I think it was, you know, look, I think you 567 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 8: can you can understand the tough spoties in with the 568 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 8: injuries they've had and some of the roster limitations, but 569 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 8: I also see the side of it where they've just 570 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 8: blown games, where they've had opportunities, even with the limited personnel, 571 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 8: to put games away and they haven't been able to 572 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 8: do that. And I think the uh, you know to 573 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 8: me and I don't. I don't talk to anybody in 574 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 8: that organization. But this almost feels like an audition for 575 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 8: Matt Kavka, not as the future head coach, but potentially 576 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 8: as the future you know, offensive play caller with the 577 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 8: keys to the car, with the relationship with Jackson Dart 578 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 8: that they don't want to disrupt, and they can go 579 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 8: out and maybe hire a defensive head coach and keep 580 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 8: some continuity for a young quarterbacks. He doesn't have to 581 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 8: start completely over. So I mean, I get it from 582 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 8: that standpoint. 583 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you three teams really good records, 584 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: but no one actually thinks they're any good. You tell 585 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: me how they rank one, two three, right, Seahawks, Seahawks, Broncos, 586 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: Colts one two three, who's the best? 587 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: Who's the worst? 588 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 8: I will go Seahawks, Colts, Broncos, Broncos third, just because 589 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 8: offense is not has not been clicking, and you know, 590 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 8: with Bownick still has some stuff to prove there. Defense 591 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 8: is really really good, ultra ultra aggressive. I'm anxious to 592 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 8: see how they do against the end of City this week. 593 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 8: But I do love the defensive side of the ball. 594 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 8: I think the Cults are, you know, a complete offense. 595 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 8: The best offense I've seen all year. Whether Broncos are 596 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 8: the best defense I've seen all year, And I think 597 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 8: the Seahawks at the top of the list for me, 598 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 8: because I think they have the most balanced team. I 599 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 8: think they can they can beat you different ways. Offensively, 600 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 8: they ran the ball well last week. They've got JSN 601 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 8: who's playing great, Sam's playing great. And defensively, they have 602 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 8: waves and waves of defensive front players they can throw 603 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 8: at you. And uh, and I think Leonard Williams is 604 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 8: complete stud I think they're really good at all three levels. 605 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 8: I think they're the most complete of those three teams. 606 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Okay, what where are we with the Chargers? Right? 607 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: They they've won three in a row despite all these injuries. 608 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: But now Jacksonville on the road is a tough one. Uh, 609 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: then Raiders, then Eagles, which is and then Den Chiefs. 610 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Uh. They st have to go to the Broncos. 611 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: How are they you know they going to be able 612 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: to keep him upright, considering how decimated that offensive line 613 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: has been. 614 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually think and I know that people will 615 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 8: look at the PFS stats and such. I know that 616 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 8: kind of made the rounds, But I think the last 617 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 8: couple of weeks the offensive line has played better, or 618 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 8: they're running the ball, which is big. Herbert's kind of 619 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 8: ran himself into a couple of these sacks yep, where 620 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 8: he's trying to climb up into the pocket and it's 621 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 8: kind of got caught in no man's land. So I 622 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 8: think offensively, the fact that the interior is healthy now 623 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 8: and then they can help out the tackles. They're learning 624 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 8: how to play with this offense. When I'm scooting the 625 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 8: ball out to the perimeter quick, they're running the ball. 626 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 8: So this is a three week period. They needed to 627 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 8: win these three games, and they got the first one 628 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 8: down with the Steelers. If they could beat Jacksonville this week, 629 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 8: and I think it's the Raiders after right, and you'd 630 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 8: be did that put him at ten? All right? You know, 631 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 8: right around ten ten wins, I think that you kind 632 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 8: of punt punch your ticket and then it's okay, see 633 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 8: if you can maybe try and steal the division down 634 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 8: the stretch. But the first goal is just win these 635 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 8: three games and kind of secure your playoff spot. 636 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get to get to the bye week, you know, 637 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: you get to this bye week after they play, after 638 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: they play the Jags, and see what more you can 639 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: get get health wise. Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 640 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: this one's this one's sort of interesting to me. What 641 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: do you think the Browns do at quarterback? Because Deshaun 642 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: Watson's now working out? 643 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 8: This funny thing is man Like, there's the preseason, there's 644 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 8: the pre draft. What are the Brown's gonna do at quarterback? 645 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 8: There's the post draft, there's the start of camp. There's 646 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 8: four games into the season and there's eight. I mean, 647 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 8: it's like it is a soap opera with their quarterback position. Yeah, so, 648 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know. I mean, I to me, 649 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 8: I guess I'd want to get another look at Watson 650 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 8: just to see if somehow he could recapture what he 651 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 8: once was. But I mean, it still feels like their 652 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 8: quarterback of the future is not in the building right now. 653 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: That's correct, he's the one only. Daniel Jeremaia, DJ, you're 654 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: the best man. I really appreciate you joining us. 655 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 8: Hey, if you want to buy the patres with me, 656 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 8: let me know. 657 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, how many friends do you think we need? One 658 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: or two really really rich ones? But one point, it 659 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: kind of sounds like a bargain these days. 660 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I think if we can get the Sega 661 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 8: in the mix, I think we could pull it off. 662 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: All right, all right, I'm in. 663 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 664 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 665 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 7: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 666 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 1: What up with your Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio 667 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio App. 668 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome in. M m hmmmm mmmmm. 669 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast every day three to five 670 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: Easter from twelve two Pacific Reminder. 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I love that rivalry talk. 679 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: I mean, like we could have gone how many rounds 680 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: do you think we could have gone? There? Dan Byer 681 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: in that like we I forgot I didn't forget, but 682 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: I was like trying to measure out. And part of 683 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: my thing with Dolphins Jets was a Dolphins Bills was 684 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: great back in the day. Recently Niners and for if 685 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: you're just joining us, we did best rivalries in the NFL. 686 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: Niner Seahawks has probably been as competitive and as important 687 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: a rivalry as you can think of, but it's only 688 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: like fifteen to twenty years old because they weren't in 689 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: the same division until twenty years old. 690 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also a funky situation because I think there 691 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: are a lot of different options that we can go. 692 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 4: But honestly, because the Seahawks didn't go to the NFC 693 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: West until the early two thousands, there isn't the thirty 694 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: and forty year history that we have, but it was 695 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 4: right up there. And I'm the guy that's saying this 696 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 4: that took Steelers Ravens because of how high it was 697 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 4: at one point, and I think Seahawks forty nine ers 698 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 4: matched or darn near matched that rivalry between the Steelers 699 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 4: and Ravens. 700 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 2: I would I would agree. 701 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: I actually also think that's what's missing with the AFC South, Right, 702 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: You're like, why is the AFC South so wonky, feel 703 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: so weird, right, Well, Tennessee used to be the Houston others, right, 704 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: so there's I mean, they've been there for a long time, 705 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: but there's no like unique rivalry there with the Indianapolis 706 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: culture used to be the Baltimore Colts, right. The Jaguars 707 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: were a team that they've been around for thirty five 708 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: years or so, right, So it's just interesting that that 709 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: division lacks the rivalries all the other divisions, even though 710 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: some divisions have broken up some rivalries. 711 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: Of the past. 712 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 4: Here's here's the I don't want to say dirty little 713 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 4: secret about the AFC South because the NFC South also 714 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: kind of a newer division, if you will. But the 715 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: Houston Texans being the newest team you talked about the 716 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 4: move of the Titans and the Jaguars being new as well. 717 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 4: I think that it's kind of a mix because the 718 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 4: Colts were the AFC East at one point. The Oilers 719 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 4: when they played were in the AFC Central when they 720 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 4: were in Houston, So you lost all of those rivalries. Heck, 721 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: Houston and Cleveland, Cincinnati and Cleveland, like those were great 722 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 4: rivalries within that division, a division that the Steelers were in. 723 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 4: And this is the nineteen eighties, so they're really hurt 724 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: by it. Also, I mentioned Falcons Saints. Yeah, Falcon Saints 725 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 4: were in the NFC West together. It's a built in 726 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 4: rivalry that carries over to the NFC South. So that's 727 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 4: got a little bit more equity than Tampa coming over 728 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 4: from the NFC Central or just the Panthers being new 729 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: and I know the Panthers for a while we're in 730 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 4: the NFC West, but just not as much equity as 731 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: the other two teams. 732 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: But it does make sense though, right Like you have 733 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: the AFC South, you're always trying to figure out, like 734 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: why is that the forgotten division? And I forgot the 735 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: point that the Houston Texans are the newest team in 736 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: the NFL, the Jaguars part of the other the second 737 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: and third newest teams in the NFL, and then the 738 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: other two teams in division that's not their traditional home 739 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: nor their traditional division. So you have all this kind 740 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: of move it's there's there's a reason. 741 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 4: I also think that the AFC South road on the 742 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 4: shoulders of Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts for so long. 743 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 4: And it's not to say that the Titans didn't have 744 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: good teams with Steve McNair and Eddie George, or that 745 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 4: Jacksonville didn't have good teams. But the fact is is 746 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 4: the Colts winning that division and having Peyton Manning, they 747 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 4: were a top team in that in that conference, in 748 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 4: that league, or you know, in the league. And now 749 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: Peyton's gone and there's really nobody there with that cachet anymore. 750 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: Yep. 751 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: And and you brought up a point that is not 752 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: has not been brought up by anybody else, myself included 753 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: in sports radio. We everyone talks about the Patriots. They 754 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: just dominated their division. Their divisions stunk. Says the exact 755 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: same thing about the AFC South Peyton Manning, right, because 756 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: because look, you had a couple of years of the 757 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: Jets being good. Often on the Dolphins have been decent 758 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. But for the most part during those twenty years, 759 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: it was the Pats. Remember the Bills went through thirteen 760 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: years of not making the playoffs, and the same is 761 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: true with the With the Colts. It's one of those 762 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: things where it didn't seem like they were in the 763 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: playoffs every year. They were in the playoffs every year, 764 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: and they would never meet almost never meet in the 765 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: first playoff game because they both won their division every year. 766 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 2: Really interesting. It's a doug out the show. 767 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: He's Dan Byer, Jason Stewart's the producer, Iowa Sam is 768 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: on the board and the ones and twos, and what 769 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: we like to do on Thursdays is, well, we throw 770 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: it back, but we just don't call it a throwback Thursday. 771 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 7: Don't call it a throwback Thursday. 772 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 2: We look back on one of the years of the past. 773 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 2: And with that we turned over to Chase. 774 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 5: I'll take it from here. 775 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 3: I'll take it from here. 776 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 5: You know what happened ten years ago. Ten years ago, 777 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 5: the term fits magic came to be a thing. You 778 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 5: guys remember Fitzmagic. Well, you're gonna see him on TV tonight. 779 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 5: He's the zany guy with the long beard in those 780 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 5: crazy clothes. Doesn't have a lot of interesting things to say, 781 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 5: but he looks zany. 782 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: So he's on TV. 783 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 5: Fitzmagic took hold ten years ago. Guys, they're playing the Jets, 784 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 5: were playing the Patriots as they are tonight, and the 785 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 5: Jets won twenty six to twenty in overtime. Ryan Fitzpatrick 786 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 5: led an ot TV after a curious decision by Bill 787 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 5: Belichick to kick in overtime. Now, if you remember the 788 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 5: old rules, if you score first, you win sudden death, 789 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 5: and Bill Belichick's confidence in his defense maybe blinded his spirit. Anyways, 790 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 5: the Patriots would lose that game. The Jets kept their 791 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 5: playoff hopes alive. The Patriots would go on in that 792 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 5: twenty fifteen season to lose to the eventual champion Broncos 793 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 5: in the conference championship game. What a year, What a season. 794 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 5: It was the year of Cam Newton who won the MVP, 795 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: Dan Bayer. Anything else to add about that twenty fifteen 796 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 5: NFL season or anything else. 797 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 4: Absolutely, because we talk about now the NFL schedule, at 798 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 4: least I believe with the seventeen games, I feel like 799 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: it added three or four more weeks to the actual season. 800 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 4: It's going to be really difficult for a team to 801 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 4: go unbeaten. However, the Carolina Panthers were fourteen and oh 802 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 4: at one point during that campaign just a decade ago. 803 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 4: They lost in Week sixteen to the Atlanta Falcons, ended 804 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 4: up fifteen and one, ultimately lost the Super Bowl. But 805 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 4: it's as close as we've gotten to a team really 806 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 4: challenging the Patriots for their sixteen and oh record. The 807 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers fourteen and oh in the regular season fifteen 808 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 4: and one, on their way to their let's just call 809 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 4: it runner up appearance in the NFL as they lost 810 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty. 811 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a Super Bowl occurred in two 812 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: thousand six. Team Remember that year they played a really 813 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: soft schedule. I believe only one team with the winning record. 814 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: They played all season long, all season long. 815 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 816 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen in the NBA gave us a Golden State 817 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: Warrior Championship. The Warriors beat the Calves in six games 818 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: that year, and you're like, wait, which Warrior team was that? 819 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: That was the one with Andrea Goodala winning the MVP 820 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: where they when they beat the Calves. That was when 821 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving hurt his knee in regulation of Game one, 822 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: didn't play in overtime or in the rest of the 823 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: series after that, and the Golden State Warriors Andrea Godala, 824 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: who is like the fifth guy that didn't guard him, 825 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: got a bunch of dunks in some threes in the 826 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: last couple of games. 827 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: Ends up being the. 828 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 4: League's Also that year, twenty fifteen, in college basketball, the 829 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 4: Duke Blue Devils cut down the nets, winning the National 830 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 4: Championship all because of a halftime interview done by Mike Krzyzewski. 831 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: That's what you'll you'll get if you ask Wisconsin Badger 832 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 4: fans as Wisconsin was in the National championship game that year, 833 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 4: or please. 834 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 2: Everyone be quiet. 835 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: Tias Jones was one of the heroes, the point guard 836 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: for the Duke Blue Devils. Tias Jones is from Minneapolis 837 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: where I'm broadcasting. 838 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 6: So that was the Wisconsin Duke National Championship game. 839 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what he's talking about with the interview 840 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: about the officiated a half time and suddenly du gout 841 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: every call in the second half. 842 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 6: Man, I remember a lot about that Wisconsin team though, 843 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 6: because wasn't Kentucky undefeated prior? Yes, and Wisconsin took him 844 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 6: out And if Frank the Tank Cominsky, it was. 845 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 4: The payback from the year prior when Kentucky knocked out 846 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 4: Wisconsin in the National semi final. 847 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 3: Man, that Wisconsin absolutely. Who was the other stud on 848 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 3: the Wisconsin team? Decker? Yes, right, yeah, yeah. 849 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: She lives in Sheboygan, Sheboygan's own. 850 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 5: Let's head to the Diamond, folks, where the Royals won 851 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 5: their first World Series title, uh in forty years. 852 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 3: How we Forgibbs. 853 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 2: That was the year after they went to the Was 854 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 2: that the year they beat the Mets? 855 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 5: Right, they beat the Mets that year? Yep, yep, they 856 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 5: lost to the Giants the year before. Now the Mets team, 857 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 5: of course beat the Dodgers in the NLC. Yes, that 858 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 5: was the series where Chase Utley broke the leg of 859 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 5: the shortstop going in high and changed the rule forever. 860 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 5: You can't go near that fielder now because of Chase Sutley. 861 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 5: In the twenty fifteen NLCS. 862 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: Uh one correction, it was the n l DS. 863 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 5: That's when I met ds ps. 864 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: They beat the Cubs in the CS. 865 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 5: Oh, the rise of the Cubs was also a story 866 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 5: that year. Yeah, yes, good point. Remember Ronda Rousey. 867 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember rond Yeah? 868 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 5: You did her strike that year a year of Ronda 869 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 5: Rousey and women's I just heard Joe Rogan the other 870 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 5: day said that that Dana White is more than willing 871 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 5: or was more than willing to never have a women's 872 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 5: division because it's it's really unsightly to see women beating 873 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 5: the crap out of women, but na rowse. 874 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: A void the punches, so they just come out looking 875 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: honestly like their their face was stuck through like a 876 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: meat processor. And just the post fight interviews for Women's 877 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: MMA is really tough on the eyes. 878 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's that one meme that's been floating around for 879 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 6: a few years, just the woman all bruised up and 880 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 6: she's like, yeah, I feel great, I'm doing okay, I'm good, 881 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 6: I'm good, doing great, feel great. Rona Rowsey, she she 882 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 6: got beating so many people because she just come out 883 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 6: and pummel you. And then she was beating up on 884 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 6: I think opponents were lesser than and then she went 885 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 6: up against like Holly Holm, and she kind of drifted 886 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 6: away from the scene. Now she's doing mostly acting, I 887 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 6: think in pro wrestling, but she's you know, she's still around. 888 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 6: But she had a nice, nice little uh surge there. 889 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 2: Just I hate to be that guy. No, I don't. 890 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 2: Isn't pro wrestling acting as well? 891 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 5: Oh? 892 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 6: Absolutely, with a little bit probably more probably more next 893 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 6: Nick Aches and you know Pains Well. 894 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 4: I know the folks in the Pacific Northwest wish the 895 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,439 Speaker 4: USGA would have acted better when it came to course 896 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 4: conditions of the twenty fifteen us Open held at Chambers Bay. 897 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 4: But what you couldn't do is deny the finish put 898 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 4: on by Jordan Speith and Dustin Johnson. Speith, looking to 899 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 4: go back to back majors after winning the twenty fifteen Masters, 900 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 4: was in the group ahead of Dustin Johnson, settled for 901 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 4: Bertie on the fifteenth, So when Eagle would win it 902 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 4: for DJ, A Bertie forces playoff and DJ's putt ran 903 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 4: about five feet past the hole for Eagle on the 904 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 4: par five eighteenth, maybe not even five feet, maybe three 905 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 4: and a half feet. He missed the comebacker in Jordan 906 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 4: Speith when a second major of the year at Chambers. 907 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: Bay wasn't that was is that when the Shark was 908 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: still doing commentary. 909 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 3: Was the first year of it. That was the first 910 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 3: year of and and he choked. 911 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: And they didn't ask Greg Norman about choking when Greg 912 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: Norman is synonymous with choking. 913 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 3: I think they didn't. 914 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 4: He just said I don't know, or yeah, good question, 915 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 4: something like that, like what's going through his mind right now? 916 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 5: Interesting? You bring up Dustin Johnson, by the way, just quickly. 917 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 3: I don't. 918 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 4: I can't remember because I was there and then I 919 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 4: got to play Chambers Bay the next day, So all right, 920 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm to you, Jason. 921 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 2: Nice, nice, humble Bragg. 922 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 5: I like it was the first Harry Potter buck took 923 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 5: place Chambers Bay, Harry Potter humor out there. 924 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 2: You know you have a Harry Potter mon you got, 925 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 2: you got a Harry Potter. 926 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 5: Harry Potter mouth of it. It's funny you bring up 927 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 5: Dustin Johnson because you know, Justin Johnson is known for golf, 928 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 5: but he's also known for his sweaty wife, the daughter 929 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 5: of Wayne Gretzky, And he loved this song in twenty 930 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 5: fifteen because he loves the taste of women. It went 931 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 5: something like this, this is the song Sugar by Maroon 932 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 5: five at the top of the charge for five weeks 933 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 5: in twenty fifteen. It was the second number one hit 934 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 5: for Maroon five. Of course everyone remembers Maps the year before, 935 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 5: but yeah, Dustin Johnson loved this song. It's about tasting 936 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 5: women and how sweet that sugar is. Great song, great 937 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 5: year for music. What happened in the in movies as 938 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 5: we try to get to. 939 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 2: A well in movies. 940 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: In movies, the number one draw at the box office 941 00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: was Star Wars episode episode the II, Sorry Horse Awakens. 942 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 6: You know I've never seen any of those new Star 943 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 6: Wars movies. I didn't see any of them. Yeah, I 944 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 6: don't know. 945 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 2: Seven was really good. Okay, Jurassic World because the world 946 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 2: needs more dress. 947 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: Should we get Ryan Smith in here? 948 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 2: There may there may be another Jurassic Who knows we. 949 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 3: Can we can end those I think we can't. We can't. 950 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: My son loves that stuff. 951 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 6: Well, he can go back and watch all nine of 952 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 6: them now. 953 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: It was also, Hey, Hunger Games two was that year 954 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: that was going mocking Jay really good, good, And I 955 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: gotta tell you one of the most inventive Pixar films, 956 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: inside Out, Inside Out, Inside Out is a good one. 957 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 6: Didn't they make a sequel a year or two ago 958 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 6: and everyone freaked out about it. It's about like your 959 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 6: feelings and stuff. 960 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: That's what inside out right right? 961 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 3: Okay? Got you? 962 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's a further Yes, there's a there's 963 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: an inside Out too. Ant Man was that year as well. 964 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 5: Man, I didn't see any of those movies. DiCaprio, we 965 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 5: have Dicapriole won his first Oscar for the Revenant. The Revenant, 966 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 5: Love the Revenant, Love the You know. He's also good 967 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 5: in that movie. 968 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 3: Is a Hardy. 969 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 6: Tom Hardy plays a real evil like Cowboy, great great movie. 970 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 6: The Revenant slow, not a lot of dialogue, but fantastically 971 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 6: shot film. 972 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: It's one of the rare. 973 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 5: Times that the Oscars where the director won and didn't 974 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 5: win Best Picture because the Best Picture went to Spotlight. 975 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 5: So kind of a light comedy about the Catholic church 976 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 5: abusing children. That's a good that's a good movie. It's 977 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 5: a very good movie comedy. 978 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: I believe Narcos launched in twenty fifteen too. That was 979 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: like one of the of the of the big streaming shows, 980 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: like that was a big one that that a lot 981 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: of people Empire. Narcos was that year. Better Call Saul 982 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: was that year, which course is a prequel to uh, 983 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: what's it Help me? 984 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 2: Help me? 985 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: Breaking Bad? 986 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 2: Breaking Bad? Yeah, prequel of Baking Bad. 987 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: So there's some good shows on TV on this streaming 988 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: service in twenty fifteen. That's probably the first year we 989 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: got full streaming. And that is don't call it throwback Thursday. 990 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 3: Don't call it a throwback