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Speaker 2: Later on this hour, we're going to follow up with

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Speaker 2: a story that was big news last November and kind

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Speaker 2: the story has brought it back. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 2: later on this hour. We're going to begin, of course,

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Speaker 2: with a couple of things dealing with Los Angeles renters.

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Speaker 2: Thousands of LA renters are supposed to pay back their

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Speaker 2: back rent. The deadline is tomorrow for the first year

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Speaker 2: and a half of the pandemic, where they could face eviction.

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Speaker 2: On another front, the Apartment Association of Greater Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: is asking a judge to overturn a rent hike freeze,

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Speaker 2: which is also pandemic related and has been in place.

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Speaker 2: It's not scheduled to end until early next year. Enough

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Speaker 2: is enough. The pandemic is freaking over, despite what it

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Speaker 2: says in the Elsigundo Times, with all of their hysteria

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Speaker 2: over and Barbara Ferrara. Anyway, we're going to talk to

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jugilson, now executive director of the Apartment Association about

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Speaker 2: this legal move against the city.

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Speaker 3: Daniel, welcome, Hey guys, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: All right, so, layout, what are the specifics of this

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Speaker 1: rent freeze ordinance.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's been in place nearly four years and despite hyperinflation.

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Speaker 3: You know, we had the CPI up near eight percent

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Speaker 3: and mortgage rates have nearly doubled. We had supply chain

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Speaker 3: issues and labor shortages, and the cost of being in

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Speaker 3: the rental housing business has gone up, you know, two

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Speaker 3: to three times hold what the CPI increase has been.

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Speaker 3: Yet we haven't been able to increase our revenues and

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Speaker 3: many people are suffering financially as a result of that.

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Speaker 3: It's been a huge problem. And what we found after

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Speaker 3: tons of legal research, is that what the City of

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Speaker 3: la has done is completely illegal under state law.

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Speaker 4: There was a.

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Speaker 3: California Supreme Court case past Birkenfeld versus the City of Berkeley,

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Speaker 3: where the court determined that property owners need to be

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Speaker 3: able to take rent increases and the only way to

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Speaker 3: get a rent increase in the city of La right

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Speaker 3: now is if you go through this elongated application process

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Speaker 3: and have hearings with each of your tenants and provide

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Speaker 3: tons of financial documents, hoping that some drone over at

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Speaker 3: the City of La is going to improve this application.

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Speaker 3: And so nobody files for these that files these applications

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Speaker 5: You have to.

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Speaker 3: Compare your current operations back to nineteen seventy eight when

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Speaker 3: they put in the rent stabilization ordinance.

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Speaker 1: It's just a.

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Speaker 3: Fallacy that anybody would ever get a prooved from one

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Speaker 1: So I'm just a little bit confused. So is it

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Speaker 1: a freeze that's in place they or do they just

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Speaker 3: There's a freeze on all types of rent increases and

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Speaker 3: under rent stabilization ordinances. In order to make them legal,

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Speaker 3: there needs to be an out to give property owners

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Speaker 3: an ability to apply for traditional increases nice and the

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Speaker 3: one under the City of La is just nearly impossible

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Speaker 1: So this should have all been illegal for quite some time.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, and that's why we're going to overturn it.

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Speaker 3: And we want to make sure that these types of

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Speaker 3: same time, they haven't been collecting rent because of all

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Speaker 3: these adviction moratoriums, and it's all been perpetrated on them

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Speaker 3: by the city. You know, the city decided to, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I wonder if it really was over COVID

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Speaker 1: or they always had these communist impulses and they need

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Speaker 1: But this is the way they'd like it always to be.

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Speaker 3: Well, George Norriri were awigh and later on tonight he

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Speaker 3: would probably say it's a conspiracy theory that the government's

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Speaker 4: Noah, you talk about it that way.

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Speaker 2: But they thinking about buying up hotels and all sorts

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, next down the road and using hotels to

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Speaker 2: you maybe are not that far off of the reality.

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Speaker 3: It's expropriation like we saw in communist Soviet Union, and

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Speaker 3: you got you have socialist Democrats on the LA City

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Speaker 3: Yea Raman character, I mean, she's just out of control, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they operate like they're socialist democrats. Daniel, You're right,

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Speaker 2: they're pretty close to communists and they you go so too.

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Speaker 4: Martinez is another one.

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Speaker 2: If they had their way, the government would take over

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Speaker 2: all the property and determine who should live where. We've

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Speaker 2: talked about this before with you in the Apartment Association

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Speaker 2: of Greater Los Angeles. You guys get the last four

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Speaker 2: years really no coverage as to the difficulties that people

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Speaker 2: And it's always, you know, it's about the tenants and

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Speaker 2: they're going to be evicted and they're going to end

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Speaker 2: up homeless. Yet you know, there's some real struggles for

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Speaker 2: these property owners and they're not all big time corporate landlords.

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Speaker 3: Now over eighty percent are what we call independent moms

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Speaker 3: We have old ladies running these properties and they're scared

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Speaker 3: because they can't understand these complicated layers of regulation that's

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Speaker 3: the government's got to get its knee off our necks

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Speaker 3: because we can't breathe. And we're the ones who own

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Speaker 3: inventory of housing. The government should be working with us

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Speaker 3: instead they just stifle our operations and people are going

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Speaker 3: out of business. Properties are getting redeveloped in econdominiums or

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Speaker 3: And the affordability issue. In California, we'd have these regulations

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Speaker 2: Well, policies aren't working right.

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Speaker 1: Well, they need to get real. So which coret are

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Speaker 1: you having this case?

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Speaker 3: This is in state court, District Court, and we have

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Speaker 3: a hearing that it can be coming up in about

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Speaker 3: a month or so. It kind of works like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it says it's going to end early next year. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: could this drag out that far?

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Speaker 4: Or it could?

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Speaker 3: It could, but you know, we're going to take a

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Speaker 3: we're going to open it up to all of our

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Speaker 3: members and other property owners and let them sue the.

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Speaker 1: City and recover damages.

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Speaker 3: You know, my my association is estimated that over two

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Speaker 3: point six billion dollars of missed rent increases occurred. And

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Speaker 3: that's just for four years of rent increases for the

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Speaker 3: you know, six hundred and twenty five thousand or so

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Speaker 3: a terrible amount of damages. And on top of that,

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Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal estimated that over a billion dollars of

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Speaker 3: COVID rent is owned, not taking an account the COVID

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Speaker 3: rental debt that was written off by owners because their

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Speaker 2: All right, Daniel we appreciate your coming up on the

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Speaker 2: air today. Thanks sir, thanks for your time.

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Speaker 3: All right, anytime, Take care, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's Daniel Julchlsson, executive director of the Apartment

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Speaker 2: Association of Greater Los Angeles, and they're asking the courts

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Speaker 2: to overturn a rent height freeze which was put into

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Speaker 2: place back in twenty twenty by City of Los Angeles officials.

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Speaker 2: As we're also talking about tomorrow being the day that

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles renters have to pay a big chunk of

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Speaker 2: the back rent they haven't paid for four years.

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Speaker 4: Basically almost all right.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, November sixteenth last year, the big story

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Speaker 2: in southern California, and you might not remember this happened

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Speaker 2: in an area near Whittier where a bunch of La

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Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Department recruits were out on a morning training

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Speaker 2: run and a long come A guy by the name

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Speaker 2: of a Guy came along on a car and ran

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Speaker 2: into the mob of runners. Many were injured. The worst

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Speaker 2: of these was a man by the name of Alejandro Martinez.

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Speaker 2: The news came over the weekend that he died. They

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Speaker 2: what's going on with Nicholas Joseph Gutierres, the diamond bar

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Speaker 2: man who was behind the wheel. His story is that

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Speaker 2: he fell asleep. Probably a lot of people forgot about

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Speaker 2: this story. This was really big news when it happened

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Speaker 2: They arrested him suspicion of attempted murder of a peace officer,

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Speaker 2: this is a complex case. We need to do more stigating.

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Speaker 2: I mean, here we are, it's August tomorrow, and that's

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Speaker 2: some kind of weird cover story. Now that we have

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Speaker 2: into some sort of case against this this driver who

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Speaker 2: I think originally the idea, well, he wasn't familiar with

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Speaker 1: He was on the wrong side of the road on

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Speaker 1: the far edge of the roadway right position straight at

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Speaker 1: the runners, So it's not like he took the wrong

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Speaker 1: So how do you I never bought the idea that

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Speaker 1: he fell asleep because he was driving in a straight line.

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Speaker 2: If it was video that came from what somebody's house

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Speaker 2: you can see him kind of come across into the

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Speaker 2: lane of the runners. But I guess the thinking is, well,

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Speaker 2: if he fell asleep, the car just he veered on

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Speaker 1: No, he straightened out the car though if it veered,

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Speaker 1: it should be continuing at a diagonal angle and hopped.

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Speaker 4: The curb right.

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Speaker 1: How did the wheel get manipulated so that suddenly it

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Speaker 1: of the road. That makes no sense. Sorry, I don't

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Speaker 1: care what kind of bs they gas out here. That

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Speaker 2: Twenty five people were hit. Yeah, we'd forgotten that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously they recovered, but that was devastating. He just kept

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Speaker 2: plowing right through him there. I remember supposedly when they

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Speaker 1: Once again, Robert Luna, the new sheriff. One of his

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Speaker 2: Now, well, he only issued a statement giving his condolences

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Speaker 1: Trolling around the internet and I found a story. Last

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Speaker 1: month a guy in Alabama celebrated his one hundred and

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Speaker 1: He used to work for KFI.

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Speaker 4: What yes, when nineteen twenty? Fuck?

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Speaker 1: He was born in nineteen seventeen and he was in Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: He got married, started working in radio, and his dream

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Speaker 4: Who about that? Yeah, So this probably would have been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's still going. Huh, he's still doing one

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Speaker 2: Today was the day that the Republicans who run the

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Speaker 2: United States House Oversight Committee in Washington, d C. Called

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Speaker 2: he did some behind closed doors testimony. This was not public,

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Speaker 4: Devon Archer had been Hunter Biden's.

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Speaker 2: Business partner for some time, and the reason they called

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Speaker 2: him in was to find out more about how involved

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Speaker 4: He told them that the.

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Speaker 2: Biden brand, he called it the brand, the brand helped

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Speaker 2: keep the Ukrainian fern Bearisma from going bankrupt, and said

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Speaker 2: Joe was on the phone or present in person at

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, and I'll tell you there was

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Speaker 2: who said, oh yeah, but there they only discussed niceties.

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Speaker 4: Biden only got on the phone just to say.

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Speaker 2: Hello, how's the weather, and it was pleasantries and then

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Speaker 1: A second, gets on the phone twenty times to ask

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess it was to tell folks that

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Speaker 2: this is real, This is my dad. He's right here,

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Speaker 2: and he'd like to say hello, yeah, and that's part

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Speaker 1: He'd liked some weather information. That is the worst spin

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Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life. That was Archer's spin

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Archer was on the board with Hunter, who was

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Speaker 2: paid fifty thousand dollars a month for his role. By

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Speaker 2: the way, Archer is facing a lengthy prison sentence for

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Speaker 2: defrauding Native Americans out of millions. So there's going to

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Speaker 2: be that against him, right that, Well, he's not credible

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Speaker 2: because he's already a thief.

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Speaker 1: That makes him more credible because he's a thief. He's

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Speaker 1: got nothing to lose. You mean, no, that's exactly the

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Speaker 1: kind of guy that Hunter and Joe get a business with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, right, when you're being accused of stealing money,

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Speaker 2: So another Republican Congressman, Andy Biggs, because again this testimony

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Value, That means, yeah, they can charge more money hunter.

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Speaker 2: Archer indicated that Hunter spoke to his father every day

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Speaker 1: But this was a daily business that Joe Biden was

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Speaker 2: And this makes sense because they might have wanted to

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Speaker 2: other end to note that Joe Biden's real here. He

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Speaker 2: is to talk about the weather and say hello. They

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Speaker 2: Jonas to get on the phone and go, how much

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Speaker 2: you paying my son? Let's talk about this deal. Maybe

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Speaker 2: he didn't do that, but the idea was to make

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Speaker 1: Has this enormous interest in meteorology, Yes, and.

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Speaker 2: He's just a friendly guy. Wants to know how you're doing.

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Speaker 2: He's just he happens to be standing picked up today.

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Speaker 1: Front come through? Did that rains start yet?

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Speaker 4: Golden explained the testimony. This is the Democratic congressman.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes Hunter would be at dinner with business partners and

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Speaker 4: Goldman said there was no.

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Speaker 2: Indication in any idea who's at dinner with them? It

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Speaker 2: related to the business dealer. So that's how it's being portrayed.

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Speaker 2: And how's the weather hunter wld be sitting there at

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Speaker 4: Businessmen and the phone would ring.

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Speaker 1: Oh, look at that.

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Speaker 4: It's my dad. You believe this. He'd like to say hello.

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Speaker 4: He calls me all the time.

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Speaker 1: He just happens to be the Vice president of the

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Speaker 1: United States. Love Dad, Meet my sleazy business partners here.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to shake money down from them, and then

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Speaker 2: Now, the chair of this committee is Jim Jordan, the

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Speaker 2: Ohio Republican, who says, oh, the meeting was productive, and

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Speaker 2: he's provided the committee with new information that we can use,

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Speaker 1: That guy Goldman was one of the leading Congress members

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Speaker 1: prosecuting the impeached against Trump.

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Speaker 4: Trump, Yeah, I did see that, one of those guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Apparently Trump never called to ask about the weather only

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Speaker 2: They put the right guy in the room to try

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Speaker 4: So Goldman had his story ready.

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Speaker 2: Joe just happened to be calling his son to check

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Speaker 4: The way, this is my dad. You like to say hello,

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Speaker 4: See how you all doing?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well see if that was in the New

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Speaker 2: Goldman claims the witness stated unequivocally there is no evidence

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Speaker 2: or otherwise never changed official policy.

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Speaker 1: There's twenty coincidental phone calls. Yeah, yeah, no, they start

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Speaker 1: with the Trump scandals. No, uh no, Biden stuff on

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Speaker 1: the front page for the New York Times.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, they're not going to follow us, right, And

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Speaker 2: in fact, the only evidence that we have is to

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Speaker 2: the contrary, which is that even though it is perceived

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Speaker 2: by Barisma that they had that prosecutor under control, that

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden advocated for his firing, that's not what the

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Speaker 2: witness said.

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Speaker 4: So this is going to be interesting. To follow.

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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody's gonna lie. Everybody's going to deny, line, deny, deny,

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Speaker 1: and line until people get bored and move on.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, you probably.

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Speaker 2: Saw that scrolling New York Times Siana College poll that

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Speaker 2: came out today that Trump is thirty seven points ahead

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Speaker 2: of his next challenger on the Republican primaries.

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Speaker 1: And thirty seven percent of the Republicans will always vote

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Speaker 1: for Trump. And not a single one in that category

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Speaker 1: that was interviewed, not a single one thought any of

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Speaker 1: the charges were real against Trump.

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Speaker 4: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: They thought it was hundreds of people they talked to,

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Speaker 2: and they all felt that all the charges were all

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Speaker 2: of them, every one of them, right, right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: saw the breakout. It was like thirty something, thirty seven

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Speaker 2: percent or hardcore Trump. There's another thirty percent or so

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Speaker 2: who are persuadable, right, and then there's a twenty something

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Speaker 2: percent that are anti Trump.

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Speaker 1: Right. So he'll get the nomination.

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Speaker 4: I mean he.

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Speaker 2: Will unless something really major happens. It's just I don't

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Speaker 1: Did you see he said he's going to Uh, he'll

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Speaker 1: he'll run, continue running for president even if he's sentenced.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he has to do right. He was committed

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Speaker 4: to this.

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Speaker 1: Right, So even if he's in jail, he's going to

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Speaker 1: continue the campaign.

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Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, it says the truly anti Trump faction of

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Speaker 4: the Republican electorate appears to just be about one and

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Speaker 4: four now, just twenty five percent, not enough to dethrone him.

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Speaker 1: Next year is going to be the greatest year ever

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Speaker 1: you'll see is going.

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Speaker 4: To be unbelievable. With the decrepit against the corrupt.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna want to show up every day a war

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Speaker 1: coup it up.

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Speaker 2: John and Ken CAFI AM six forty live everywhere I

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Speaker 1: Oh and the name of the guy. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I mentioned him, the guy who worked at KFI. Oh yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: We might have a listener that heard him.

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Speaker 1: Lou ben Venudo worked here maybe eighty years ago.

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Speaker 4: Lou ben Venudo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're listening to John and Ken on demand from

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Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: We're on the radio little four every day, but after four,

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Speaker 1: and Ken on demand podcast. You missed a lot today,

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Speaker 1: you did.

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Speaker 2: We're not well, We're not quite done. Who's hungry for

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Speaker 2: a Kamala Harris word salad?

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Speaker 4: Anybody?

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Speaker 1: Yum yum?

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Speaker 2: She appeared on Good Morning America. As you know, I

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Speaker 2: think was it Texas or Florida that sent migrants to

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Speaker 2: her vice president's house in the Texas did several times.

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Speaker 2: It seems to be the topic here that is lost,

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Speaker 2: maybe somewhere in this word salad. She's being asked about

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Speaker 2: these bus loads of migrants who are being sent to

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Speaker 2: places across the country. Let's see how it went.

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Speaker 6: First of all, let's agree that people should not be

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Speaker 6: the pawns in a political game. Human beings should not

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Speaker 6: be treated as ponds in a political game. What is

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Speaker 6: happening in terms of sending these migrants, most of whom

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Speaker 6: have fleed great harm, and sending them across the country

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Speaker 6: for the sake of some political showmanship.

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Speaker 1: It's just irresponsible.

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Speaker 7: If you want to deal with the problem, then do it,

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Speaker 7: if you are a leader, by participating in the solution,

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Speaker 7: and one very clear solution, very significant solution, has.

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Speaker 1: Been in front of us.

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Speaker 7: Yes, for years now, we need to pass immigration reform.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, there was a.

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Speaker 7: Time where George Bush, John McCain, others who people who

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Speaker 7: differed on many other issues, agreed, let's be sensible and

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Speaker 7: solution oriented on this issue. And I think it's a.

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Speaker 6: Tragedy that we are instead witnessing gamesmanship.

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Speaker 4: And again, these are human beings, you know.

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Speaker 7: And we should be responsible if we call ourselves leader.

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Speaker 4: You've done.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I got a headache. I don't understand this.

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Speaker 1: If you get two million people coming into your state,

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Speaker 1: what are you supposed.

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Speaker 4: To do with them?

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to all live in Il Passo, all live

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Speaker 1: in Brownsville. It's two million people. Of course they're going

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Speaker 1: to be put on buses. Of course they are in planes.

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Speaker 1: What else are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: You see the picture, I think it was a New

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Speaker 2: York post of the migrants just living on the streets

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Speaker 2: of Manhattan.

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Speaker 4: Now there's nowhere to put them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they filled up every space race, right, They

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Speaker 1: filled up all the shelters. In Kamala Harris's empty brain.

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Speaker 1: Does she imagine there's these endless buildings with endless empty apartments.

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Speaker 4: They're easy for her to just say, Oh, she come

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Speaker 4: up with like amnesty that.

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Speaker 1: No matter how you call it, there's too many bodies

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Speaker 1: and there aren't enough places to put them. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's got to be orderly so you can slowly absorb

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Speaker 1: the increase.

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Speaker 5: Keep.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. I just she's dishonest. She should know better.

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Speaker 1: Of course she knows better.

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Speaker 2: I know they sent her out there to talk about

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Speaker 2: once again comprehensive immigration reform amnesty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you knowe the people she's talking about.

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Speaker 2: John Kaine's dead and George Morris is long out of politics,

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Speaker 2: and they and they never got it.

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Speaker 1: You know. I read I read this morning what Trump's

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Speaker 1: likely campaign slogan is going to be. It's is that

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Speaker 1: is that Joe Biden's going to die soon and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna end up with Kamala Harris. Vote for me.

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Speaker 4: That could be effective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 8: Conway, Hey, now hey, we got the two horrible stories

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Speaker 8: pee wee Herman passed away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrible.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's not good. You remember what he got canceled

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Speaker 8: for the movie theater? Yeah that's right, that's right. I

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Speaker 8: think you can do that nowadays without getting canceled. I

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Speaker 8: think it's opened up.

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Speaker 1: In that run. Yeah, I think I think do they

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Speaker 1: have those anymore?

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Speaker 4: I don't think they have those porn theaters.

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Speaker 1: And I'll get back to you they're a big in

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Speaker 1: New York City. There's no reason for it.

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Speaker 8: Well, you're right, there's no reason for it. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: your phone. But guys still like to get out of

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Speaker 8: the house and you can meet other people, if you

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Speaker 8: know what I mean. That's right, that's right, that's why

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Speaker 8: you go to enjoy yourself, make new friends. And then

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Speaker 8: the homicide investigation Malibu Lagoon. A body was found in

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Speaker 8: a barrel, and all of these TV stations there's there,

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Speaker 8: they're so great, they're like, it's being investigated as a homicide,

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Speaker 8: like really.

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Speaker 4: Could be a suicide.

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Speaker 8: Really, some guy put himself over Niagara Falls.

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Speaker 1: They ended up here, pitched himself at a barrel and

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Speaker 1: he closed the barrel, right and then killed himself.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the.

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Speaker 8: Greatest man, brilliant. And then we had a Burbank musician.

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Speaker 8: I knew this guy and he his name was Roy.

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Speaker 8: He passed away. He was on a mission to raise

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Speaker 8: a lot of money and he got hit by a car.

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Speaker 8: He was on a he was going to raise twenty

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Speaker 8: five thousand dollars for the in for a tribe Inna

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Speaker 8: was going to do I think it was twenty five

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Speaker 8: hundred miles and right at the end he got hit

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Speaker 8: by a truck and killed.

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Speaker 1: Oh g yeah.

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Speaker 4: Full of good stuf.

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Speaker 8: I know, I know, I know. It's it's the worst.

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Speaker 8: And then a sewage spilt. There a newport to wrap

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Speaker 8: it up.

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Speaker 4: You're on top of.

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Speaker 1: Horrible weekend. But the big story this weekend is Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 4: That's right. She comes to town this week.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 8: So everybody's got to be six shows, yeah, six shows

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Speaker 8: in seven.

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Speaker 2: Days and they go long. Did you hear she's breaking

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Speaker 2: curfew up in Santa Clara.

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Speaker 8: She twice on Friday and Saturday. You listen to it's excited.

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Speaker 8: You listen to a lot of Taylor Swift. You know,

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Speaker 8: I won't get it, and it's just I won't sit

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Speaker 8: here and be judged by you, young man. But I

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Speaker 8: do enjoy Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: You do. Yeah, I'm not going to the concert. I'm

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Speaker 1: that kind of money, right, But.

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Speaker 8: I but name one song, Okay, shake it off, very good.

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Speaker 1: Another one that was Pee Wee Herman's song.

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Speaker 4: Oh No Time to Gong.

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Speaker 1: That's not good either, All right, cons you got you guys,

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Speaker 1: blew it?

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Speaker 4: Oh come on heys with.

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