Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. All I know is the next morning,
Speaker 1: Rachel's like, what the hell happened to you? Askedn't I
Speaker 1: I was like, well, as Karen.
Speaker 2: Calm down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio. Should we have a formal introduction because for
Speaker 2: Derek Jeter, just like you did for a dude, ask
Speaker 2: for Kevin what.
Speaker 3: You did to Jeter.
Speaker 2: Hey, I need some gentleman and a man who needs
Speaker 2: no introduction, Kevin Burkhard. I mean, this has been a
Speaker 2: long time coming. I'm so excited that you're on with us.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was an honor I got. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm in, let's go. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's better than any invite you could get with
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's right up there with the White Party.
Speaker 3: Has anyone ever been to that? No, anyway, a co
Speaker 3: worker has.
Speaker 1: But that's about any coworkers have been to it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: not on those yet.
Speaker 2: You look like you've been on a gat you are.
Speaker 2: You have their nice sum retan on you. But now
Speaker 2: all of our lives are about to be over in
Speaker 2: the best possible way. I'm very excited that the season
Speaker 2: is upon us, you guys, gosh, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I'm excited for the season, but you know, getting
Speaker 1: a little sun and having a cocktailler too isn't the
Speaker 1: worst either, Let's be honest, it's not.
Speaker 2: And we've been lucky enough to have a few of
Speaker 2: those together over the off season. So keV, you're no
Speaker 2: stranger to the nonsense that is the Calm Down Podcast.
Speaker 3: So yeah, for six months out of the year.
Speaker 2: So as you know as a loyal listener of the
Speaker 2: Calm Down Podcast, this is not a formal production. So
Speaker 2: any expectations that you had of this being like that,
Speaker 2: just throw them right down your staircase that's behind.
Speaker 3: We got a great staircase, by the way.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Know. It's funny because when I when
Speaker 1: I knew I was coming on, I asked for the
Speaker 1: list of questions. I was stunned that there was no
Speaker 1: formal list. Totally shocked. I was like, whoa kind of
Speaker 1: am I going on here?
Speaker 2: You needed your publicist to agree to the questions that
Speaker 2: you were about to be asked?
Speaker 1: But no, this is my publicist right here.
Speaker 2: That angel tell the story about Laura, how she came
Speaker 2: into your life?
Speaker 3: Is it Laura or Lara how do we say.
Speaker 1: It's Laura like Lara Kraft Logan. My son named her
Speaker 1: like a Lara Craft tomb raider situation. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: looking at rescues years ago. We've had it for eight
Speaker 1: years now, and you know, we had like an idea
Speaker 1: of kind of dogs we wanted and we went to
Speaker 1: one of the rescue spots in La to find her
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get her out of the cage, like
Speaker 1: they found her on the street. She was shaking like
Speaker 1: a leaf. And then just like one of those things, right,
Speaker 1: you know, we said, let's try see you can get
Speaker 1: her out of the cage, and they brought out of
Speaker 1: the cage and she went right to my son and
Speaker 1: sat in his lap and stopped shaking. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we're going to talk today. Yeah, so it was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. One of those like really neat
Speaker 1: dog stories. They're they're the best, aren't they they are.
Speaker 2: We were talking about that before we got on here
Speaker 2: because the day that rough day for me, I have
Speaker 2: to put one of ours down and it's like the
Speaker 2: worst and this has not a down and we're not
Speaker 2: trying to be a down here, but it's just to
Speaker 2: further accentuate and highlight that those you know animals, they're
Speaker 2: so loyal and so loving, and so are you, mister Burkhart.
Speaker 2: So let's turn our attention back to the task at hands.
Speaker 2: So I don't start crying, because there's no reason to
Speaker 2: cry when you're on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You going into your eleventh year now, right, because you
Speaker 2: started with EA on the twelfth year. Okay, twelfth year,
Speaker 2: because your first year was with John Lynch and with EA.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Was twenty thirteen, I think right. Er, I think we
Speaker 1: were twenty thirteen. We had the one year together with
Speaker 1: John and then and then obviously we were far for
Speaker 1: all these years, the last and few. So now it's
Speaker 1: we're back for our third our third year together, right,
Speaker 1: I think that's losing track is bad, but.
Speaker 2: It's time flies when you're having fun. So in twelve years,
Speaker 2: when you think about that broadcast team from twelve years ago,
Speaker 2: John Lynch of course now the general manager for the
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers, Aaron's had a baby. You
Speaker 2: have so many different hats that you wear at Fox.
Speaker 3: You are the lead host anchor for MLB on Fox.
Speaker 2: You are the lead play by play announcer now alongside
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and with Aaron and Tom on the Fox
Speaker 2: NFL broadcast. So in the last twelve years, what would
Speaker 2: you say is the biggest change that's happened for you
Speaker 2: in those Well?
Speaker 1: How much? You geez? You know, It's it's funny, like
Speaker 1: I've worked with obviously a lot of different great people,
Speaker 1: and the cool thing is, like, you know, still having
Speaker 1: great relationships with them. I like, I just talked to
Speaker 1: John Lynch this morning, right, like, you know, except now
Speaker 1: he's running the forty nine ers, so that's a little weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did he say?
Speaker 3: What's going on with are you?
Speaker 1: What do you have that that? You know, he's got
Speaker 1: some stuff going on, maybe some stuff for after the
Speaker 1: record button has hit on this podcast. You you know,
Speaker 1: you guys know John. He's always in a great mood
Speaker 1: and he's always good. So so I think that's the
Speaker 1: coolest part. Cet. It's like, you know, I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: when Joe and Troy left and was lucky enough to
Speaker 1: get promoted with Greg and bump up, like one of
Speaker 1: the really cool things. I mean, obviously it's a great thing.
Speaker 1: But one of the really cool things is getting back
Speaker 1: with Aaron, because you know, we had that relationship, a
Speaker 1: great relationship in year one and we always continue that
Speaker 1: and then kind of getting back together was really and
Speaker 1: it's been crazy fun. So I just think it's like
Speaker 1: the relationships and the people that you come across and
Speaker 1: deal with, and you know, like, for example baseball, like
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter joins us, right and you know, I covered
Speaker 1: him a little bit, I interviewed him. I didn't know
Speaker 1: him from at all, right, like, and honestly, I don't
Speaker 1: think a lot of people did because they didn't let
Speaker 1: people in. And so now getting to know him has
Speaker 1: been one of my favorite things in the last year
Speaker 1: because he's just so freaking normal and cool. So stuff
Speaker 1: like that, I just you know, you I pinched myself
Speaker 1: if I told myself that it's seventeen years old that
Speaker 1: I was doing this stuff wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, best Jeter story you can share with us that
Speaker 2: you know you never kind of thought would happen in
Speaker 2: a relationship between the two of you, anything you can.
Speaker 1: Share, I mean, the best Yeah, I'll share this, and
Speaker 1: sorry if you didn't want this out there, but the
Speaker 1: best Judas story is like this just gives you an
Speaker 1: idea of how cool he is and how much respect
Speaker 1: I have for him. But when he got hired, I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, can we spend some time together? You know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to knowme.
Speaker 3: So we build something you would tell this one.
Speaker 1: Yes, and and so he's like, you know, absolutely whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, so go down and go and go hang.
Speaker 1: And we're like, all right, you know, wherever you want
Speaker 1: to go, Derek, I'll go whatever. So we picked a
Speaker 1: spot we go and you know, it was like middle
Speaker 1: of the day, and you know, I was I happened
Speaker 1: to be mentioning. We were on like a little promo
Speaker 1: shoot earlier in the day, and so we basically carved
Speaker 1: out time at night to hang. So this was like
Speaker 1: I don't know, three thirty in the afternoon, and I
Speaker 1: was talking, you know, as as you guys well know.
Speaker 1: I had like a good cocktail or a couple don't
Speaker 1: and I said, man, I could crave a margarita. And
Speaker 1: so and that was, you know, at noon, sadly, and.
Speaker 2: We got got when it turns to pm, you're fine,
Speaker 2: you know, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought too. I mean it might have
Speaker 1: been eleven to fifty ish, but it was like close. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we go and we go to this place
Speaker 1: and we're hanging out and I ordered like a you
Speaker 1: know whatever. I ordered like an iced tea and Derek's
Speaker 1: like iced tea. He's like, I thought we were doing tequila.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, my man, and and we just
Speaker 1: had the best time. I felt like I knew him forever,
Speaker 1: and that was the first time I met him. We
Speaker 1: were just you know, talking, bullshitting, telling stories and listening
Speaker 1: to him tell stories. It was the best. So like
Speaker 1: that just kind of tells you all you need to
Speaker 1: know about him, right, A guy that makes somebody just
Speaker 1: met feel that comfortable. So that's a pretty good. That's
Speaker 1: one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, keV. I have so much respect for you
Speaker 2: and for so many different reasons. But I can't imagine
Speaker 2: what your preparation looks like. So, uh, those people that
Speaker 2: don't know Kevin obviously wears the two hats, the two
Speaker 2: largest hats you could wear at this network in that
Speaker 2: you're anchoring this you know group that with Big Poppy
Speaker 2: and Jeter and the incredible baseball guys. And then you
Speaker 2: go over and you sit in a booth and you
Speaker 2: call games and then for the A with the A
Speaker 2: crew for the NFL, and just how do you and
Speaker 2: I look at you from a vantage point as obviously
Speaker 2: a host because I've never done play by play before,
Speaker 2: but sort of what's the biggest difference for you professionally
Speaker 2: moving from that booth position of play by play to
Speaker 2: the host position in baseball and sort of how are
Speaker 2: you able to do both of those things so effortlessly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, Chris, I I always really prided
Speaker 1: myself on being versatile, and you know, earlier in my
Speaker 1: career people are like, oh, you got to pick one
Speaker 1: thing you can't be. You can't be doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't. You can't be a jack of
Speaker 1: ball trays. It doesn't work right. So coming here and
Speaker 1: having Fox, I have the faith of me to actually
Speaker 1: be versatile and do both, like really take a lot
Speaker 1: of pride in that. And you know, I think the
Speaker 1: preps it's different, but in the same you know, in
Speaker 1: doing the play by play, it's definitely more detail. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not studying the you know, when I'm doing the
Speaker 1: baseball pre game, I'm not studying the twenty fifth guy
Speaker 1: on the bench and what he hits the runners and
Speaker 1: scoring positions. Yeah, it's more, as you know, it's more
Speaker 1: like general themes. What's going on with the team, what
Speaker 1: do the fans think? What's the news, like the important topics.
Speaker 1: And you're doing that too with play by play, but
Speaker 1: it's just detail like play by play. I know I
Speaker 1: have stuff on every single guy that may or may
Speaker 1: not get in the game because my biggest fear is
Speaker 1: and this happened to be years ago before Fox, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was doing a game and some guy
Speaker 1: the Jets just signed off the street blocked a punt
Speaker 1: return it for a touchdown. I had no idea what
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, I knew his name, but I
Speaker 1: you know, I knew his name, but I'm like, I
Speaker 1: will never do that again. I will never go into
Speaker 1: a game and not know something about every single player.
Speaker 1: And so that kind of that's the difference in the prep.
Speaker 1: But I mean, really is you're just the way I
Speaker 1: describe it to like younger people or people that are
Speaker 1: trying to get in the du I feel like, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys feel. I feel like
Speaker 1: you for that week you become an expert or try
Speaker 1: to become an expert on those two teams, and you're
Speaker 1: speaking to the diehards, you're speaking to the casual fan,
Speaker 1: and you're also speaking to the people that have never
Speaker 1: watched a baseball game all year. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: my thought process in a nutshell, and everyone's got a
Speaker 1: different way about it, but that's kind of my I'm
Speaker 1: kind of you know, Aaron and I think are the similar.
Speaker 1: We talk about prep a lot. We're not sending each
Speaker 1: other articles at midnight and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: She sent me seven on you today. I did to prepay.
Speaker 3: She didn't. And by the way, and this is me.
Speaker 3: So they come through the headlines.
Speaker 2: It's like these glowing headlines on you and I immediately
Speaker 2: look at them and I hadn't I hadn't opened them yet.
Speaker 2: I immediately responded. I was like, finally the respect that
Speaker 2: KB deserves. These were articles from six years ago that
Speaker 2: she was sending me like just in case. I yeah,
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I was like, yeah, eron,
Speaker 2: I know that. But I was like, I just love
Speaker 2: her that she like also wants to make sure that
Speaker 2: I have the information and prep for you. Who we've
Speaker 2: been I've been lucky enough to call you know, a
Speaker 2: friend for I don't know the last five six years,
Speaker 2: but I think that just says a lot about who
Speaker 2: Erin is as well. But she wants everyone on her
Speaker 2: team to be prepared. So I'm going to put Erin
Speaker 2: on the spot now. Greg gave us a rate Aaron
Speaker 2: impersonation and sort of like pull back that curtain of
Speaker 2: life on the road. I need a funny EA story.
Speaker 2: There's a pavilion, but I need an Aaron story that
Speaker 2: only you and or Greg from the last few seasons
Speaker 2: would know, having spent so much time with her. And
Speaker 2: I don't mean calling me from the airport bars when
Speaker 2: all of our flights are delayed.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorites. That's one of my favorites. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many of them. I will say, so,
Speaker 1: first of all, there's there's multiple things I love, but
Speaker 1: I love like whatever it is, whether we're in a
Speaker 1: production meeting or whether we're at an airport, or whether
Speaker 1: whatever it is. When we're on the field for the
Speaker 1: game and we just have this work wife, work husband thing.
Speaker 1: I just turned around and Aaron's like the eyes big
Speaker 1: and I and I cry and die because I know
Speaker 1: I know exactly what she's looking at at what she's thinking.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I mean, there's so many that I would
Speaker 1: say one of our most fun nights and she knows
Speaker 1: where I'm going to go with this probably, but one
Speaker 1: of my most fun nights ever was a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago when we were in Kansas City and we're
Speaker 1: doing and you know, because we did call you from
Speaker 1: the airport actually, and we're we're like, we do the
Speaker 1: chiefs and we're like, you know, we don't feel like
Speaker 1: standing kancallity, let's get home tonight. And I'm like, there's
Speaker 1: no flights and Aaron's like, there's a Southwest flight at
Speaker 1: ten thirty. We're going to get on it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're really doing that, huh. And so we're like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll do it with you. So, you know, this was
Speaker 1: that I don't know it was this dinner Saturday night
Speaker 1: or that we booked this flight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I kept looking. I'm like, it's open, it's
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 1: Oh, we're at dinner. And then we got we got
Speaker 1: back to the room and like we're prepping and she's
Speaker 1: textually it's there are two seats now book now. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we booked the.
Speaker 2: Flight Business Select.
Speaker 1: So we we go in do it and we had,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a decent amount of time to
Speaker 1: kill at the airport, which is fine. We're just we
Speaker 1: just wanted to sleep in our own bed. You know
Speaker 1: how that is. You get like you just want to
Speaker 1: you just want to sleep in your own bed, no
Speaker 1: matter how long the day is. So we're in the airport,
Speaker 1: we got time to kill and you know, it starts
Speaker 1: casual and then we're watching the Sunday night game and
Speaker 1: then we're having a couple of cocktails and then the
Speaker 1: flight gets delayed. Well it's already a long day, and
Speaker 1: now the flight's like really delayed. And then a couple
Speaker 1: of cocktails turned into multiple cocktails, and then the best
Speaker 1: part is the flight finally is ready to board. So
Speaker 1: we're like the only ones left in this little bar
Speaker 1: and we say the guy, hey, can we get a
Speaker 1: ROADI A you know, a red wine, you know, roady,
Speaker 1: whatever you got, and as one does, you got it,
Speaker 1: and he came out with a I'm thinking like a
Speaker 1: little like a coffee cup. He comes out with a
Speaker 1: cup like this like gulp, and there we are with
Speaker 1: a clear cup. It's either wine or well, else in
Speaker 1: the Grape Duse. Here's my boarding past. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I got home, I know, I know. The next morning,
Speaker 1: Rachel is like, what the hell happened to you? Asked,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, that's.
Speaker 2: Karen and this is what we love so much. So
Speaker 2: Rachel your amazing wife. And Jared Bachur's Aaron's husband. There's
Speaker 2: like this thing, will you guys spend I said this
Speaker 2: at Max's first birthday party when you were so adorable
Speaker 2: and you're in the playpin playing with Mac because that's
Speaker 2: just who you are. Like everyone's like out not paying attention.
Speaker 2: Kevin is in the playpen with Mac, like reading him stories,
Speaker 2: and it's just you guys spend so much time together.
Speaker 2: And but a shout out to your significant others because
Speaker 2: it takes a very special person at home that understand
Speaker 2: the dynamic of being on the road, and like those
Speaker 2: late nights are like, oh, I had too many cocktails.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I got home, And it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're just being They're just being themselves like whatever, And
Speaker 2: I just love that because it is like so much
Speaker 2: of our life is spent on the road or with
Speaker 2: the people that we work with that. It says a
Speaker 2: lot about the people that we choose to spend our
Speaker 2: lives with at home that are like cool enough to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: So oh right, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: We love that. And Rachel can get down. She's got
Speaker 2: something you can get down mee. Her and Kendra have
Speaker 2: a date for some choreography because we're gonna do a
Speaker 2: little dance party.
Speaker 3: You guys may or may not be invited.
Speaker 1: You you don't even have the s twice? Will you
Speaker 1: already know that?
Speaker 2: It says a lot when our significance significance? Yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: I'm ready for the season. Significant others I e. Jared
Speaker 2: and Rachel. I mean sometimes Kevin, I am voice noting
Speaker 2: him before I go to sleep or when I wake
Speaker 2: up in the morning and it's nothing. It's it's all
Speaker 2: work related or somebody were making fun of and so
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, coffee coffee voice in the morning
Speaker 2: or bedtime voice, and Jared's.
Speaker 3: Right there and he's like, Hi, keV, doctor letter.
Speaker 1: Sound good good, It's so great. It's so true too.
Speaker 2: One of the articles that Aaron sent me in case
Speaker 2: I didn't know your backstory, which I did, and it's
Speaker 2: one thing maybe that we have in common, keV, you
Speaker 2: and I have both got out the forefront of selling
Speaker 2: some Chevrolets. All right, just off five four or five
Speaker 2: exit eighteen and Kirkland Lee Johnson Chevrolet, come on down.
Speaker 2: You and I should have like a spokesperson like sound
Speaker 2: off before you well in conjunction was starting your career.
Speaker 2: You went and also sold cars. So I need you
Speaker 2: to give us the backstory in your own words about
Speaker 2: how that happened, where you went as the headline, and
Speaker 2: I will read the headline, which made me so happy
Speaker 2: because again you deserve all the recognition in the world.
Speaker 2: Kevin Burkhart, one time car salesman, is Fox's new NFL
Speaker 2: play by play guy. He was a used car salesman.
Speaker 2: Now he's calling the super Bowl. So how do you
Speaker 2: go from that? Wall Street Journal, by the way, wrote
Speaker 2: that that's pretty big ship when you have a whole
Speaker 2: article about you.
Speaker 3: I didn't get asked for that one weird.
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, what can I do to put you
Speaker 1: in this New Tahoe touchdown? Cowboy? It's all the same,
Speaker 1: it's all on the same breath, you know what. It's
Speaker 1: actually really it's actually really fun story. And if we
Speaker 1: don't do it if we don't do a car commercial together.
Speaker 2: At some point, I seriously missing a huge opportunity here
Speaker 2: with the two of the Hello, you've got a friend
Speaker 2: in the car business.
Speaker 3: We'll do our jingle later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I could. I don't remember the jingle, but
Speaker 1: I did do a commercial for them, ironically later and
Speaker 1: it was horrendous, but I did it.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to do you remember any part of it?
Speaker 1: Oh? I remember all of it because we played it
Speaker 1: on the Baseball Post game show. They busted my playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just like me and this. It was me
Speaker 1: and this, like this giant, Like I had a shirt
Speaker 1: that was like sixteen X and I weighed like one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds. I was like, Hi, welcome to
Speaker 1: Pine Belt Chevrolet. And I was like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: that guy's on the air doing like the fox A game.
Speaker 1: It's wild. But anyway, Yeah, so I went I just
Speaker 1: basically as we've all been right, you get hit these
Speaker 1: parts where you're just like okay, and I just hit
Speaker 1: a wall and I was like, why can't I get
Speaker 1: a break? I don't understand what's going on? And so
Speaker 1: I literally just went through the Sunday Classifies back when
Speaker 1: the newspaper was still being delivered, and I found a
Speaker 1: car dealership and I was like, you know what, I'll
Speaker 1: go to that. I had no idea to sell, how
Speaker 1: to sell cars, any of that stuff, and I just
Speaker 1: went in. The guy said okay, sure you're hired. And
Speaker 1: then I kind of said, well, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I'm a sportscaster. So he's like a or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then like we just started talking and he like, I
Speaker 1: got like some some opportunities to fill in occasionally on
Speaker 1: like WCBS in New York, and and then he just
Speaker 1: he heard me one night driving home from the dealership
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, he's like, you're really good. He's
Speaker 1: like okay, He's like, so you let me know when
Speaker 1: you get like freelance opportunities, I'll just let you go.
Speaker 1: Just keep it between me and you. So he turned
Speaker 1: into a real friend, and this guy by named Mike Travina,
Speaker 1: who still owns one of the couple of the dealerships,
Speaker 1: and so it became like a relationship. And when I
Speaker 1: got gigs, you just let me go. And then I sold.
Speaker 1: You know, I did pretty well selling cars, so it
Speaker 1: actually was really I enjoy talking back because I enjoyed
Speaker 1: telling young people like, hey, like you know, I was
Speaker 1: in the middle of it trying to figure it out too.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have to like get it right
Speaker 1: out of college and go to the you know, the
Speaker 1: top thing like you can. Your path can be kind
Speaker 1: of weird. So it was a good It was a
Speaker 1: good learning experience, no doubt. I actually took a lot
Speaker 1: from it. It was cool.
Speaker 3: That's a big thing taught.
Speaker 2: Sorry, ct why don't I teach you kind of holding
Speaker 2: out and having a schlap and sell cars and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the big it's er. It's a great question. Quite simply.
Speaker 1: It just taught me to ask for stuff I wanted.
Speaker 1: And because I was always like it don't rock the book.
Speaker 1: I still kind of am. I'm like I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty laid back, you guys know, like I'm unless I
Speaker 1: get to the point where something really pisses me off,
Speaker 1: like which doesn't happen very often at all, And so
Speaker 1: I'm usually just a go with the flow guy and
Speaker 1: like doing that job. Very simply, you either asked for
Speaker 1: what you want or you don't do You don't put
Speaker 1: money and you don't pay rent, you know. So it
Speaker 1: just taught me to negotiate, to ask for things because
Speaker 1: the worst people could say is no. And then from
Speaker 1: there I took that lesson and like I called a
Speaker 1: guy who I'd worked with before, who was a program
Speaker 1: director at the Fan in New York, Eric Spitz, and
Speaker 1: I just called him. I said, Hey, I think I'm
Speaker 1: good enough to work at your station, Like, can I audition?
Speaker 1: And he said, uh, okay, come in Friday. I'm like what.
Speaker 1: So it's just like a it was just a simple lesson,
Speaker 1: but it was just one that I just I guess
Speaker 1: I just never knew how to do. So it taught
Speaker 1: me a very valuable skill.
Speaker 2: But don't you also appreciate that you had to do
Speaker 2: things like that, because now when you sit in a
Speaker 2: booth and you call a super Bowl, or you sit
Speaker 2: on that desk alongside Alex Rodriguez or Derek Jeter or
Speaker 2: Big Poppy and you're at the world here, he's like you,
Speaker 2: I imagine, because it's how I feel when we've all
Speaker 2: had the great fortune of living out our dream job.
Speaker 2: Is that you're like, oh, but it didn't No one
Speaker 2: just handed you a willy want a golden ticket? Is
Speaker 2: like you get to do this, you had to go
Speaker 2: through all these other things where you had to work,
Speaker 2: you know, your way up to get to where you are.
Speaker 2: So I imagine the appreciation is there and you wouldn't
Speaker 2: change it for the.
Speaker 1: World, your spot on I mean, you know me, well,
Speaker 1: I would never change it, and I would never not
Speaker 1: I will never not appreciate what I'm doing because I
Speaker 1: know the alternative right and just sitting there trying to
Speaker 1: climb the ladder and hope you get any anywhere near
Speaker 1: the top. Forget about to the top, just you know,
Speaker 1: getting traction and moving up in the industry and doing
Speaker 1: things you want to do. So yeah, from there, there's
Speaker 1: never a time that I don't go and walk a
Speaker 1: field at a stadium with Aaron and not look around
Speaker 1: just for a second and be like this is pretty
Speaker 1: cool that I am standing on this field and going
Speaker 1: to talk to all these people later doing this Like
Speaker 1: there's never one game where that doesn't happen. And you're right,
Speaker 1: it's because of that experience and like my journey here
Speaker 1: and you know everyone, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that come out and go right in the star
Speaker 1: is right from school or right from high school, Like,
Speaker 1: God bless them. That's great. I don't think I would
Speaker 1: have been. I think the way that I did it
Speaker 1: was good for me, Like I don't. I think it
Speaker 1: helped me get to be who I am today. So
Speaker 1: I embrace it. I really do. I'm happy it happened
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: I want best cars sales pitch. I like, say, I'm
Speaker 2: just going in as a woman. What things should I
Speaker 2: stay away from from guys like you? What things are
Speaker 2: like you?
Speaker 3: You son of don't tell me? Like what? What? What
Speaker 3: is one? What's your always your go to?
Speaker 2: Like I always have my fallback go to question for
Speaker 2: Kyle at halftime or Matt at halftime?
Speaker 3: What was your go to sales pitch?
Speaker 1: What is most important to you? It was always like okay, oh,
Speaker 1: people always had a trigger, so it was always is
Speaker 1: the monthly payment important? Is it a newer used car?
Speaker 1: Is it a certain feature in the car? Like they
Speaker 1: always had a trigger. So it was finding out what
Speaker 1: that trigger was and then kind of working off of that.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is that I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: still the same. I mean this was one that I
Speaker 1: last sell cars. I mean I don't remember.
Speaker 2: That it's all the same as a daughter of a
Speaker 2: used car salesman a visits. It's all the same that
Speaker 2: if you can sell, you can sell. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if this is nineteen eighty six or if it's twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 3: Like that's all the same, true, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But chrisy, you know, like the crazy thing is and
Speaker 1: I tell people this and they still don't blame it
Speaker 1: like you would, just the way it's structure. And maybe
Speaker 1: it's not like this at every place, but you know,
Speaker 1: our place is depended on you know, what kind of
Speaker 1: incentives the dealer had and things like that, and you
Speaker 1: get paid a lot on structure, like if you sold
Speaker 1: eight cars that month, you got a bonus, you know,
Speaker 1: something like that. And there would be times where I
Speaker 1: would sell, you know, a fifty thousand dollars suburban and
Speaker 1: I would make fifty dollars on the sale, and it
Speaker 1: made no sense, like literally no sense. So it was
Speaker 1: like it was just no rhyme or reason to Sometimes
Speaker 1: it depended and then there'd be other times you sell
Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand dollars car, but the dealer owned
Speaker 1: it for a certain price and you'd make a good amount.
Speaker 1: You made a couple grands so it just it was
Speaker 1: a you had to be like, I think it's.
Speaker 2: One of the I I'm only I'm only interjecting because
Speaker 2: I think it's one of the hardest thing. Again, my
Speaker 2: father worked construction, hurt his back, and then he had
Speaker 2: to sell cars, and so I watched him growing up
Speaker 2: like that idea and then eventually, to his credit, like
Speaker 2: you like, he ended up owning the dealership or you know,
Speaker 2: he didn't become the lead announcer for Fox, but I'm
Speaker 2: sure he would have loved that opportunity too. But when
Speaker 2: you watch somebody beat your dependent sales is the hardest
Speaker 2: thing to do because there is no guaranteed money and
Speaker 2: you have a family to support, and it was like
Speaker 2: the stress that comes with that.
Speaker 3: But so I give so much.
Speaker 2: I have so much respect for doing that job, and
Speaker 2: not only doing that job because I watched it be
Speaker 2: hard for my father, but also because you were willing
Speaker 2: to do anything to support your family, and I think
Speaker 2: that that's something that's like so commendable.
Speaker 3: Here's the one thing that my dad taught.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad always told me don't close after the sale,
Speaker 2: Like if I'm on the lot, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll take it, and then you keep being like and
Speaker 2: there's air conditioning and there's this.
Speaker 3: It's like, ooh, they got don't shut.
Speaker 2: Up, just shut off because now you might say more
Speaker 2: and it's like they've already said they're going to buy
Speaker 2: the car. So like so many times, and I think
Speaker 2: about this in my own life, like if like whatever,
Speaker 2: I get a job and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm gonna work really hard and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do this. It's like, you're shut up. We just gave
Speaker 3: you the job, now you're ruining it. Walk away.
Speaker 2: Go sign the goddamn paperwork before they take it back.
Speaker 2: So don't close after the sale was my big and I.
Speaker 1: Promise you will regret it and then I'll keep.
Speaker 2: You ear Yeah exactly. It's like, okay, lady, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I just love that. That's so great. Well, Kevin, it's
Speaker 2: not a surprise to me though, that you were successful
Speaker 2: at that because, and I say this so unbiasedly, just yes,
Speaker 2: I feel lucky enough to be your teammate, as I
Speaker 2: know Aaron does. But you are one of the nicest
Speaker 2: anyone listening to this you have to know that what
Speaker 2: you see is what you get with Kevin. There's no
Speaker 2: like he's one person on TV and another person when
Speaker 2: the TV.
Speaker 3: You know, he walks out of the booth and takes
Speaker 3: the mic. Not true?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, Sassy, Kevin is a fucking time Okay. I
Speaker 2: meant the kind person that, like, you know, he's not
Speaker 2: an asshole behind the scene, Sassy, yes, but kind Kevin,
Speaker 2: and the person that like, no matter what would happen
Speaker 2: in life, like you would always be there.
Speaker 3: And I just love you for that. You are so
Speaker 3: consistent in that department.
Speaker 2: Now, Sassy, let's turn it over to Aaron for more
Speaker 2: on that Bille times and no one knows is better
Speaker 2: than Kevin and curs out. We are week twelve, we
Speaker 2: are week ten, We're tired, we're sassy. We're boarding an
Speaker 2: airline and maybe you can't all go together, or maybe
Speaker 2: it's like you get somebody that's loading into the plane
Speaker 2: that just isn't too happy. And this one turns around
Speaker 2: to me as he's as he's boreding, and he goes Wow,
Speaker 2: strict Saturdays in full effect, And I'm just like sassy
Speaker 2: Kevin is born in the plane, my man to Detroit.
Speaker 3: The one liners this guy has are insane.
Speaker 1: They're a I'll throw out some one liners. I you know,
Speaker 1: Aaron loves the sassy keV. We were talking about John
Speaker 1: Lynch earlier. He used to say, the jersey's coming out,
Speaker 1: like the jersey's coming out. Oh KB, the jersey KBS
Speaker 1: coming out a little bit now, Yeah, yeah, you get that.
Speaker 1: You get it. You know, I get some moments because
Speaker 1: I may save a couple for Aaron on weekends just
Speaker 1: to you know, just to save them up so then
Speaker 1: I could unload them on. You know.
Speaker 2: My favorite is when keV just said, you know, from
Speaker 2: everything that he's gone through in his career to be
Speaker 2: where he is now, that's why he takes an extra
Speaker 2: minute to enjoy walking around the field. I was going
Speaker 2: to say, except when you're going and you're you're broadcasting
Speaker 2: a Detroit Lions game and the punter smokes your fucking
Speaker 2: hand with a ball.
Speaker 3: What what was that? His hand was fucking broken?
Speaker 1: John Fox saved my life? Like we were we were?
Speaker 1: That was? I forgot about that? That was last year? Right?
Speaker 1: Was that last Yeah?
Speaker 3: Was it Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: No? Wasn't Thanksgiving? I think we were there another time. No,
Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't Thanksgiving. I know that it was there.
Speaker 1: It was weak too, were there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was weak too, and we were we were we
Speaker 1: were down on the you know, you're you get you
Speaker 1: know it is you always have to pay attention when
Speaker 1: you're on the field, but we were like off the field.
Speaker 1: We were like off the sideline. I mean honestly five
Speaker 1: yards off the sideline. So usually there you're not going
Speaker 1: to get and no teams were warming up. This is
Speaker 1: like special teams periods, so it's just like Fiel go
Speaker 1: unit stuff like that. So I wasn't even thinking of
Speaker 1: looking at the field at that time. So I'm talking,
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking to John Fox, and Aaron was
Speaker 1: was like over positioned this way, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: like looking this way and John John is like somehow
Speaker 1: looking back, and all of a sudden we're talking. John
Speaker 1: goes look out like last second and I so I
Speaker 1: just did this, and then the punt hits me like
Speaker 1: right here. It hit like my hand in my head,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I had no idea how a
Speaker 1: punt got there, but I get it's like, uh, Jack Fox,
Speaker 1: the punter for Detroit, who by the way, was amazing.
Speaker 1: He came running over like are you Okay, my dude,
Speaker 1: like thank you, but like go do your job. But
Speaker 1: like so we got me good, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, this is gonna be great. Do a game
Speaker 1: like can cuss race fantastic. But it hurt. It gave
Speaker 1: me like I was like, man, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you guys catch these things like it hurt. My hand
Speaker 1: was like blowing up. It was like all right, well
Speaker 1: see if it's broken. It was fine, but yeah, everyone's
Speaker 1: like we're getting you to the doctor right now, get
Speaker 1: the team doctor. She had me like locked and loaded
Speaker 1: because she got me tick. She got me I she
Speaker 1: got me the whole thing. She took care of me.
Speaker 3: She is far before she was a mother to Mac.
Speaker 3: You are very good in those situations there.
Speaker 2: In situation sure, I can deal with the training, stop
Speaker 2: the doctors.
Speaker 3: And she loves to try this. He knows, he knows more.
Speaker 1: Than I mean. Weather support is close. Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 1: If you had to pick, if you had to pick
Speaker 1: a team training report versus the weatherport, I think weather
Speaker 1: would be hot.
Speaker 3: Right, fair fair?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So we had a lot of great
Speaker 2: stuff there with KB. We're gonna do this in two parts.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned because next week.
Speaker 3: This was so good.
Speaker 2: We can't wait for you guys to hear it. He's
Speaker 2: gonna tell us all about ban on the field and
Speaker 2: taking pictures, or our new coworker, Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: Not with four four high angle low angle. Kay, you
Speaker 3: gotta get a right filter. Maybe not.
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