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Speaker 1: Their defense, and we're talking about all this later in

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Speaker 1: the show too. But you know, the defensive free agents

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Speaker 1: that they signed didn't take very many snaps. Don't know

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna look like. But this is a statement

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Speaker 1: too about you want to talk about the best thing

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Speaker 1: to happen, and there's some of that in today's show.

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Speaker 1: The culture and is maybe one of the best things

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Speaker 1: about this preseason because it showed up huge chet, especially

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Speaker 1: on a couple of occasions, not not the least of

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Speaker 1: which was last night's win. Yep, all right, we do

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Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about. We'll talk more about that.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome to join us. We got fall Nines open

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty if

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Speaker 1: you want to call up and laugh at us, laugh

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Speaker 1: at me about Murph. It's a meaningless precis I know,

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Speaker 1: I know you had to be there. I don't like

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Speaker 1: to say that very often, but you kind of had

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Speaker 1: to be there to see what was going on, to

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Speaker 1: see the reaction on the sidelines, and you know that

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Speaker 1: the locker room was raucous. They they were all into it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was. It's so fun. That is it's

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Speaker 1: so fun, you know, to be a part of that,

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Speaker 1: to win the impossible game for nothing, yeah and nothing,

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Speaker 1: and it was and it's just all it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a great feeling for those guys. And then I'm

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Speaker 1: happy they ended their preseason on such a note. It

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Speaker 1: was it was fun. It was fun to be there.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we got today. We're on the air here

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Speaker 1: until three, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo

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Speaker 1: studio at one Bill's Drive. Lorenzo Alexander Yes, no, I

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Speaker 1: think yes, No, he's in. Lorenzo is in. Doc is here?

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Speaker 1: Doc is not here. Remember when Johnny Carson Lorenzo Alexander

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Speaker 1: is a no. Today we thought he was a yes.

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Speaker 1: He is a no. He's doing an appearance for community relations.

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Speaker 1: Won't be able to make it. Greg Kosal joins us

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock today to break down the entire Bills preseason,

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Speaker 1: including the quarterback play and Stephen mentioned in a minutego.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about what we liked about the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills preseason, maybe what we didn't like. That's coming up

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Speaker 1: on the one o'clock hour. Ed Brown, who was the

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Speaker 1: sideline reporter for Steve and Andrew Catalan on the Bills,

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Speaker 1: tell us you network. He'll join us around two o'clock

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Speaker 1: or so. Plus your phone calls, your reaction to what

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Speaker 1: went on last night, what went on in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and here's the topic of the day. Our Twitter is

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Speaker 1: at a poll. It's not really a poll, but we

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Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to this on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: on the phone line. So here we are. A preseason

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Speaker 1: is over. Now give us your quarterback depth chart. We've

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Speaker 1: been talking about it all year. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: it since Becca as soon as Josh Allen was drafted.

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Speaker 1: What does the Bills quarterback depth chart look like for

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Speaker 1: you right now? Don't give us a prediction. Don't tell

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Speaker 1: us what you predict. Give us your thoughts on what

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Speaker 1: it looks like. Who's the starter, who's the backup? Who's

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Speaker 1: number three? Is there even a number three? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call. Let's discuss eight oh three five fifty, toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: or you can tweet us at one Bills Live the

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Speaker 1: Bills quarterback depth chart. Give us yours right now eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Got a call on

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Speaker 1: culture from Anthony and Hamburg. Go ahead, Anthony around the

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Speaker 1: air with this. Yeah, I just I wanted to point

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Speaker 1: out that this is a couple of things that we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about during the preseason. One, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the analytics of sports today. It's you got this train

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Speaker 1: of thought that culture means absolutely nothing, and I just

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's everything. I think there's definitely you know,

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Speaker 1: skill definitely plays a role, but I mean culture definitely

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Speaker 1: plays a role. And I think, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna make a long term you know effects

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Speaker 1: just that that game itself, but just in general when

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Speaker 1: it comes to a football team, I think it defman

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Speaker 1: plays a role, you know. And Anton, let me stop

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Speaker 1: you there, because I agree with you and I do

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Speaker 1: think it's underrated. And when you first started saying that,

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Speaker 1: I thought mostly in football, and then I got thinking

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Speaker 1: about the Golden State Warriors is talented to say, are

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Speaker 1: they have great players? The Golden State Warriors also have

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Speaker 1: a winning culture, right you've seen you watched the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: They know what who they are, they know how to play,

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Speaker 1: and they know how to win. So it's not just

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Speaker 1: a football thing. I agree with the Anthony Well that

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Speaker 1: along with the Patriots, I mean, it's never seen anything

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Speaker 1: like the Patriots a dominance. It did not just happen

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Speaker 1: because they are the most skilled team. It's it's something

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Speaker 1: that they created and had continue to excel with the

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Speaker 1: second thing real quick, um I wanted to point out

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Speaker 1: was this idea of eighteen games versus sixteen and four.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean reality is what makes the NFL

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Speaker 1: crazy that every game matters a b there there's a

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Speaker 1: there is a reason for four preseason games. There are

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that played have played football their

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Speaker 1: whole life and just want a shot. And I think

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Speaker 1: that that game is a testament to why it's four

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Speaker 1: games is a key as law. Okay, at the risk

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Speaker 1: of creating a we're not gonna we will circle back

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Speaker 1: for that's a lot of the Yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of smart people and a lot of smart fans um,

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Speaker 1: and smart executives in the NFL. Smart front office people,

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Speaker 1: Uh that are all you know. They always talk about

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Speaker 1: it and how they can make it better and all

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Speaker 1: we all have our own ideas about it. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, before last night's game, and I think after

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Speaker 1: last night's game two, there's probably a better way to

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Speaker 1: do it than the way they're doing it. They have

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Speaker 1: tweaked it in the past, like last night. Those games

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Speaker 1: were even uglier in years past because they would cut

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Speaker 1: to like sixty five players, so they would be down

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Speaker 1: twenty guys from last night and trying to play the

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Speaker 1: games resting starters. Uh. And then you know, they said, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna find what. Just make hold of everybody on

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Speaker 1: the roster until after the last preseason game so they

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Speaker 1: could get through that fourth preseason game. So it has

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Speaker 1: gotten better because there are more guys on the roster

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Speaker 1: to play those games. But by the same token, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, not playing thirty guys on your rosters. It

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Speaker 1: makes for a pretty different kind of game. It was different,

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Speaker 1: it's your finished different. Let's go to Nick in Buffalo. Hello, Nick, welcome,

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Speaker 1: you're on the ear. Hi, how's it going? Okay? I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to mention how you know you have people

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Speaker 1: in a work environment be the best people to work with,

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Speaker 1: and their attitudes aren't all that great. What ends up

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Speaker 1: happening is you don't end up like working there. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's as simple as that. The same thing can be

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Speaker 1: applied to sports and their teams. You know, if there's

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Speaker 1: an environment and a group of people that feel good

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Speaker 1: about themselves and have a good attitude, you want to

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Speaker 1: be around those people, and it rolls over onto the

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Speaker 1: football field. Obviously, skill is an immense part of it.

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Speaker 1: But I think if you have an attitude where everyone's

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Speaker 1: on the same page and actually wants to be there

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Speaker 1: and supports each other and all that, it really plays

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Speaker 1: a role. It's the same thing as a workplace, no

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Speaker 1: one wants to work with others who have bad attitudes, etc.

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Speaker 1: The same I think can be applied for sports. Thank you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's mum. I occasionally get asked to speak

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Speaker 1: to corporations and a team building events, and some of

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Speaker 1: the things that I share with him are my own

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Speaker 1: experiences about what it's like to be in both environments,

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Speaker 1: the good and the bad, and where they're some of

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Speaker 1: them are toxic and some of them are not. Uh

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Speaker 1: and uh, there's absolutely no doubt. And that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things that Sean McDermott when he interviewed to get

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Speaker 1: the head coaching job here in Buffalo, his idea was

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Speaker 1: that culture is everything because it does get you through

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Speaker 1: the rough times. And we all have seen every football

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Speaker 1: team goes through rough times and like a three game losing,

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Speaker 1: three game losing stream and every you need everybody in

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Speaker 1: the building who wears that not only who wears the uniform,

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Speaker 1: but also who coaches the uniform and who serves the uniform,

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Speaker 1: you know, and whatever capacity you know, you've got to

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Speaker 1: be in it. You've got to dig deep in those

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Speaker 1: tough times. And last night was one of those small

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Speaker 1: moments when you saw the players on the field dig

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Speaker 1: deep for a game that didn't mean anything, and they

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Speaker 1: did it because they you could tell a J. Mccarren's comments,

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Speaker 1: they like each other. They dug deep for each other

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Speaker 1: and in tough times, that's that's the most important thing. Hey, Steve,

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Speaker 1: at this point in the show, in an effort to

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Speaker 1: make sure there is no palpable tension, I just can't

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Speaker 1: get over there. I want to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: know that it's okay to yon on the air today,

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Speaker 1: even if you're on the MSG side. Listen, we got

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Speaker 1: into three am to die on. No I did. I

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Speaker 1: just suppressing on and I thought I better get Steve's fermission.

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Speaker 1: It's I'm giving you. We got in. We landed at

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Airport at three am and then you know, the

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Speaker 1: big files off the you know, you come down the

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Speaker 1: stairs of the plane and you're you know, you're walking

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Speaker 1: and everybody goes out to their their two hundred cars

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Speaker 1: and everybody takes off from the airport at three am.

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Speaker 1: You go home, and I hit the sack sometime before

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Speaker 1: four am this morning, and you were I think you

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Speaker 1: were later right around four because I had parked strategically

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Speaker 1: to get quicker, and uh so we I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna sleep in today and I was up,

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Speaker 1: so I just you know, I yeah, I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: didn't come in the normal time anyway, but still it

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Speaker 1: was late. So I'll have ups and downs because of

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Speaker 1: our fatigue. We gotta dig deep. I think it could

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Speaker 1: be more deep because I'm here for you man, because

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Speaker 1: of the process and our culture is right. Steve's had

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Speaker 1: a big week too. We talked about it a little

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Speaker 1: bit down on the show yesterday. But what Monday night?

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Speaker 1: You have a new grandson born? Did the task? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the Monday night. Yeah, it was Monday night. And

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Speaker 1: it wasn't Monday night. I don't know Monday or two.

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Speaker 1: When did you come back? I can't remember what day

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Speaker 1: it was? Now was Oh? No, it was Tuesdays, Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Night, Tuesday Night, Grand New Taskers, Tuesday Night. Yes, Redmond,

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Speaker 1: it was born, and his name's gonna be you call

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Speaker 1: him Red and Red Tasker. Yeah. So he's he got born.

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Speaker 1: And there's this he and his hip for those of

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Speaker 1: MSG you see a picture that's his sister Rose next

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Speaker 1: to him. So we have Yes, I have a grandson

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Speaker 1: and uh came home from hospital today. I got I

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Speaker 1: got the pictures on my little little share photos share today.

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Speaker 1: And Rose is about two and a half well, and

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Speaker 1: these are deacons kids. Yeah, Deacon and his two children.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, and it's uh so a little Red

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Speaker 1: is back home now, that's good. He is Red well,

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Speaker 1: just out of the hospital. Yeah, and he's he's quite

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Speaker 1: a little peanut. Yeah, that's great. We're stoked. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: very happy about it. And obviously everybody's happy, healthy in

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Speaker 1: doing good. Soil number three, number three for you. I

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Speaker 1: can't listen, Murphy. We came here to you think. We

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Speaker 1: came here as newly weds with a dog, you know,

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Speaker 1: and now five children of our own and now three

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Speaker 1: grandchildren here in the western New York area. So we're

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Speaker 1: good congratulations. Sorry, A lot to talk about, including culture,

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Speaker 1: coming off the air. And Andrew says, they we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next Tuesday. And Steve and I said, what are

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Speaker 1: you talking about, man, you're here Monday. He kind of flipped.

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Speaker 1: Vey knew it. No, I'm here Monday. What I think?

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Speaker 1: He's still screaming out in the hallway. It was kind

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Speaker 1: of funny. I was day too, But we're here money.

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Speaker 1: You know why because cutdowns are coming. Steve, four pm tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: what's my number? Thirty four seven down to fifty three? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and they got some hard decisions for me. There's

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Speaker 1: absolutely no question about it because they're guys who first

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Speaker 1: and foremot We've been chat chattering in the whole first

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Speaker 1: half hour about the culture that they're trying to build.

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Speaker 1: They all fit, they're all good guys. They're all guys

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Speaker 1: that are part of the US and the Wii and

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Speaker 1: U and ore, you know that kind of thing, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's hard to, you know, make the decision that's

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Speaker 1: going to exclude them from that. We got Great Costale

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Speaker 1: coming on the show at one o'clock talk about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: We've got Fed Brown coming on the show with two

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Speaker 1: Last night's game, the preseason in general. Our topic of

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Speaker 1: the day deals with quarterbacks. What's your What does your

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Speaker 1: quarterback depth chart for the Buffalo Bills look like? Right now?

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Speaker 1: I'll give you mine, Steve, And it's changed since in

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Speaker 1: the last five weeks, since the preseason begin. My depth

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Speaker 1: chart change going to camp, if you ask me. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, I was looking at my my spotting board

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Speaker 1: yesterday that I made up before the first preseason game,

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Speaker 1: and I put him on my board the quarterbacks the

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Speaker 1: way I thought it would play out. I had mccarroen

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Speaker 1: number one. I had Josh Allen number two. I had

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman number three. Here we are after four preseason games.

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Speaker 1: My quarterback chap tied for the Bill says Peterman up

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Speaker 1: at the top, Alan and number two and mccaren number three.

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Speaker 1: What about you? I need a drum roll because I

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Speaker 1: absolutely agree. I absolutely agree with you. Oh we agree.

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Speaker 1: That's no fun. Absolutely are we supposed to get that

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Speaker 1: power attention? And I think Josh, I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to become set more and more set in stone the

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Speaker 1: longer into the season they go, and the and the

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Speaker 1: more reps and the more development Alan gets during practice,

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Speaker 1: and the more reps he gets, I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get better and better. But I think right now, if

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Speaker 1: you if you ask me which one gave the Bills

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Speaker 1: a better chance to win on a Sunday, I might

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Speaker 1: have to say Alan over McCarron. I think Peterman's the

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Speaker 1: best shot right now because he's the steadiest. But and

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Speaker 1: I think Josh, I think his ability, his physical ability

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Speaker 1: carries him past Aju for the number two spot. But

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Speaker 1: and the longer they go in that scenario, I think

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Speaker 1: the stronger Josh Allen becomes and the more he'll even

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Speaker 1: challenge Peterman. Yeah, but for today you got Peterman one,

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Speaker 1: Alan two and mccaren that's me. That's me and you

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Speaker 1: what I want to get to some of the calls

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Speaker 1: on this and some of the tweet sheet. What did

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Speaker 1: last night mccaron's performance do to the quarterback depth chart

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Speaker 1: in your mind? Anything? Because I don't think it did much.

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Speaker 1: I admire what mccaren did last night. You know what

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Speaker 1: does to me? It keeps him here. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they I think they carry three. I

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Speaker 1: think they can. That may be the impetus to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we need that guy. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: playing the right position, and he says the right things,

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Speaker 1: and he's the right kind of guy. And I think

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Speaker 1: it proves to me he is a real culture fit

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Speaker 1: and he need. You need those guys on the team,

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Speaker 1: particularly at that position, and the more you have, the better.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think keeping the third quarter back, even

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Speaker 1: if you deactivate him week to week, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that costs you anything on your special teams or on

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Speaker 1: the bottom end of your roster. Now maybe they'll maybe

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Speaker 1: they don't agree with that. Maybe there's somebody they really

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Speaker 1: need on the fifty three that I'm you know, they

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Speaker 1: know more about it than I can even begin to

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Speaker 1: think about because there's so many names to consider. But

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Speaker 1: I think that play last night, in that game last night,

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Speaker 1: and all the things he said, and then the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy is. I think that game put AJ mccaron

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Speaker 1: back on the roster with three quarterbacks even I think

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Speaker 1: three is necessary too, I think and if they're a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams don't do it less than half Bills

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Speaker 1: didn't do it last year, right my game Day Joe

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Speaker 1: Webb finished a game because of it. Yeah, my game

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Speaker 1: Day partner Mark Kelso. For a couple of weeks, even

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Speaker 1: before last night's fourth quarter, Kelso has maintained and I

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Speaker 1: listen to what Mark says that it would be not

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Speaker 1: good to go into a season with that little experience.

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Speaker 1: If you're talking going into a season with Nathan Peterman

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Speaker 1: and his what two NFL starts, and then Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: with zero NFL starts, you needs a veteran presence in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback room. You need a veteran presence on the

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Speaker 1: roster like kj's a twelve year vet either, but he

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Speaker 1: is the NFL starts right. Eleven NFL games, three NFL starts.

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Speaker 1: Kelso's position is, you need a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: what Alan and Peterman might provide, but we're open to suggestions.

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Speaker 1: Bills are making these decisions as we speak. You had

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Speaker 1: Brandon being on your telecast last night in Chicago. He says, basically,

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Speaker 1: today's today, right, big personnel meeting today. They'll probably let

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Speaker 1: players know later today, maybe into tonight, and then announce

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Speaker 1: it tomorrow. But this is the day when that kind

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Speaker 1: of decision is being made. They'll be up late, and

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Speaker 1: not only are they making their own cuts, but they're

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Speaker 1: also scouring it for the thousand plus names that are

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Speaker 1: going to come over from other teams. And we asked

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Speaker 1: him and he said, yeah, last year they did it.

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Speaker 1: Three guys that were with are in training camp now

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Speaker 1: on another team are going to end up probably being

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Speaker 1: on That's what happened last year. Three guys ended up

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Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills. He said, they claimed four and

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Speaker 1: were awarded three. Right, they'll probably do this this year. Um,

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Speaker 1: they'll probably have a harder time making it happen because

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Speaker 1: now they're twenty first on the claims order rather than

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Speaker 1: the eleventh that they were last year. What's your quarterback

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Speaker 1: depth chart look like for the Bills and tell us

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Speaker 1: why eighth three five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty John on the

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Speaker 1: line from his cell phone, John, go ahead, you're on

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Speaker 1: the air with us. Hey, thanks guys for taking me here. Um,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you're on the quarterback positioning there. I

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Speaker 1: think it's pretty much the way it is. My only

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Speaker 1: thing is is Aj is he gonna get caught up

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Speaker 1: with the numbers game financially versus his inconsistency. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you pay a third quarterback that kind of money? Well,

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Speaker 1: I know, making a lot of money. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: even I know it's a lot of money to me

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Speaker 1: and you and Murph. Uh, it's it's not even a

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Speaker 1: drop in the bucket on the salary cap that it is.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback position combining all three quarterbacks together don't even

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Speaker 1: add up to a mediocre backup in the NFL, so

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Speaker 1: that it's not an economic decision in my opinion, totally

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Speaker 1: totally football from the tweet sheet on this issue, what's

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Speaker 1: your quarterback depth chart looked like from a sap Joshi,

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Speaker 1: he says, at this point, I would have to think

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Speaker 1: it's Peterman. Alan McCarron one two three. Peterman is someone

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Speaker 1: that McBean has some faith in after throwing him in

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Speaker 1: last year and watching him progress this offseason preseason, AJ

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Speaker 1: has not quite lived up to his expectations, even with

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Speaker 1: the comeback last night. Interesting observations A sap Joshi. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do think they have faith in Peterman. I think

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Speaker 1: more than faith, I think they have respect for his

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Speaker 1: work ethic Nathan Peterman. I'm talking about respect for his

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Speaker 1: offseason of work. Respect for you know, people want to

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Speaker 1: point to the Chargers game. I think they really admire

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Speaker 1: and respect the way he handled that last year. As

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Speaker 1: far as AJ has not lived up to expectations, I

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Speaker 1: guess it depends on what your expectations were. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive fourth quarter comeback, and for AJ McCarron said

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Speaker 1: it most funny he's ever had. I gotta believe he's

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Speaker 1: thinking it's he's never done that before. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know what were your expectations going into last night For

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Speaker 1: A J. Mccarren, I don't know, I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Either what the expectations were. I think I don't think

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00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: we had any. I think we just wanted we're curious

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Speaker 1: to see how he's going to handle it, and he

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00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: didn't play well in the first three chords of that game.

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Speaker 1: When the chips were down, he actually kind of came

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Speaker 1: through and guys came through for him and his words

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Speaker 1: after the game, and so you got to think that

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00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: bleeds over into what he says and does in the

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Speaker 1: building when nobody's recording him. He says and does the

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00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: right things. I think his leadership at that spot is

813
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: showed through the way. You have to tip your hat

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Speaker 1: to him the touchdown pass and we just showed it

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Speaker 1: an MSG to Foster. AJ dropped a diamond. That was

816
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Speaker 1: his best throw of the night. It was the best

817
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Speaker 1: throw of the night for him. I said it on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast when he let it go. Man, it was

819
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Speaker 1: a tight spiral, dropped it right down in the bucket

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Speaker 1: where it had to be, and it was on time

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Speaker 1: and no hesitation. It was a really good play and

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Speaker 1: it resulted in the touchdown and it was Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: agree with you that it was a really nice throw.

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Speaker 1: Tweet cheat from Peter O'Brien his quarterback depth chart, pretty simple,

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Speaker 1: Peterman Alan, and then he says, release McCarron. I guess, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing I need. I need someone

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Speaker 1: to tell me. There has to be a reason to

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Speaker 1: release mccarroenum. And it's not going to be financial. As

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Speaker 1: we pointed out, he's not going to cost much. H

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Speaker 1: If there's roster pressure, if you need to keep a

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Speaker 1: six wide receiver or a fourth tight end, Okay, those

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Speaker 1: are valid reasons, but I'm not meeting I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't make the Again, We're asking you to give us

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Speaker 1: your quarterback depth chart, and you want to release a

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Speaker 1: mccaren as part of that. Okay, that's and that's valid.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. But I guess I need a better reason

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Speaker 1: than just release mccarroen. You know. That's why it's important

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Speaker 1: to call if you and I and I think so too,

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Speaker 1: I mean you think too. Is there a quarterback out

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Speaker 1: there that may be released by another team? I brought

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Speaker 1: this up last night as well. There might nobody's above that.

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Speaker 1: If if a guy that this coaching staff knows from

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00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: their past, who jumps up and is available because he's

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Speaker 1: a last release from one of the other teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, do you you go out and

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Speaker 1: get it. Do you like him better for whatever reason?

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's got a stronger arm, maybe he's a better athlete,

848
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Speaker 1: what have you. Maybe that's a possibility. If your third

849
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: quarterback here, if it is AJ McCarron, you like that

850
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: guy better. Maybe you had tried to acquire him earlier

851
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: and didn't work out, and now he becomes available through

852
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: the final cuts that I could see that happening. But

853
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I do I agree with you, Murph. The one of

854
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: the questions you have to answer when you're asking this

855
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: question about the quarterbacks is how many they're gonna keep?

856
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: And I think both you and I think they can

857
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: keep three. I think so in this situation with a J.

858
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: Mccaron and Nate Peterman and Josh Man, you kind of

859
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: need three guys. I think he needs some at least

860
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: one guy's a fifth year in the league, you know, yeah,

861
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: even though he hasn't played that much. From the tweet

862
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: sheet from hop Starter his quarterback depth chart for the Bills,

863
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty more. We're developing developing a sense of

864
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: the conventional wisdom on this among fans. Because hop Starter

865
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: is the same as the rest of us. He goes

866
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: Peterman number one, Alan number two, McCarron number three. He says,

867
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: that's the order I would choose. Peterman has proven himself

868
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: and has shown he can overcome adversity. Yeah, no question.

869
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. We've got more

870
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: to discuss here, Quarterback, depth, chart, culture, on the bills,

871
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: cut down, day looming, a day away now and everything's

872
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: on the table. Give us a call eight oh three,

873
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight by fifty

874
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Speaker 1: two five fifty. John Murphy's Steve Tasker one bills Live

875
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Obil means

876
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: one bills Live. In case you were wondering, John Murphy's

877
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, this is the show we do every weekday.

878
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: On Saturday, it means official Beer Lover. We're even doing

879
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: the show on Labor Day. That's how much we love

880
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: doing this show. And hope you join us on Monday.

881
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: We'll have all the the Bill's Roster moves to discuss.

882
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: I believe on Monday, right, it'll be fun. Yeah, it's yeah,

883
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: it will be fun. It'll be and I think there's

884
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: gonna be some surprises there always are. You know, some

885
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: veteran that happens, some veteran gets released, it's unexpected or

886
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: or what have you. But um, yeah, the roster's gonna

887
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: get set and then it'll be on to Baltimore for

888
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Yeah that's and you know what, that's

889
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: going to happen in a hurry, right, Monday will be

890
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: kind of a roster day and then the rest of

891
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: the week it's all Baltimore. It always, Um, it always

892
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: amazes me over the years how so much focus on

893
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: roster cutdown and they'll be Look, they're gonna release some

894
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: people that you like, uh, last year, Brandon Ridy, They're

895
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: gonna release people. You're like, people like, yeah, how could

896
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: they do that? What did they think? And how could

897
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: that happen? And then you know what, by Tuesday, it's

898
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: like Baltimore who Okay, who they playing? Who they playing against?

899
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: You know that's what happens and I like it like

900
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: that too. By the way, Um, Steve, you're spending tonight

901
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: with the a little bit of tonight with the Eastern

902
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: or Blue Devils high school football. They have a game tonight,

903
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: they have a new field and you are going to

904
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: be uh be there in the coin. Yeah, it's there's

905
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: a little dinner beforehand, a little barbecue thing, and then

906
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, we've lived in an EA for you know,

907
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: going on thirty years. So um, I'm kind of part

908
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: of the furniture. So but I do get to splip

909
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: the coin tonight, so I'm looking forward to that and

910
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: uh um yeah, brand new field field turf thing and

911
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: then flipping the coin and dedicating the field and boom,

912
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: it is named after you. Yeah right, No, it's not

913
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: named after me. Why not, man, you're a fau. Why

914
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: would it be named after me. You're part of the furniture.

915
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, well so name the furniture after me. It's

916
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: not what I meant. No, it's not named after me.

917
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's. Yeah. Maybe he's got somebody's name on it.

918
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't know though. But let's see Easter or I'm

919
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule. Oh it's Easter or a Holland

920
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: Pioneer versus Easter or a Holland. They're playing Pioneer. Yeah,

921
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: and they combined with Holland. Holland never had a team

922
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: for years and yeah. Yeah, the schools, you know, just

923
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: have enough get kids and they wanted to be able

924
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: to play. They brought him up to the EA and

925
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: they play up there. Steve will be flipping the coin

926
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: if you'd like to see him yourself. The new grand

927
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: baby gonna be there. I doubt it. I doubt it.

928
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: And if I leave earlier, grand baby, Hey, um, what

929
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: do you think quarterback depth chart for the Bills? What

930
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: does it look like? Give us a call? Eight oh

931
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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

932
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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Kevin on the line from Hamburg. Hello, Kevin,

933
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with us, okay. Um.

934
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: I was kind of impressed with you're there, Yeah, go ahead, okay.

935
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: I was kind of impressed with mccarnon after that interception

936
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: in the first half. A lot of people would be

937
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: sulking and crying the blues after the pick six and

938
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: getting spanked twenty seven and three, but he stuck it out.

939
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't do that even regular season,

940
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: when they're getting spanked twenty seven to three, they can say, oh,

941
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: whoa was me? I mean imagine it. Mccaron could have said, look,

942
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm playing with third teamers here, what are we doing

943
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: we're down twenty and nothing a halftime. I mean asking

944
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: regular season guys get that bad and they're like, oh,

945
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: let's go to the next game. The heck with that?

946
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: You know, right? No, I agree and I you know, listen, Kevin,

947
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: You're right. The story coming out Murph and I talked

948
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: about it for a half hour to start the show.

949
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: The story coming out of last night was the culture

950
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: that the Bills have that has showed up, that showed

951
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: up in that game. That was the story for me

952
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: coming out of it. Now, there's a lot of individual

953
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: players who played good and bad and ups and downs,

954
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff can evaluate that, but the story

955
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: for me was exactly what you're talking about. AJ McCarron

956
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys who may not be playing

957
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 1: football anymore kind of came together and did something really

958
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: cool and it was fun to watch, fun to watch,

959
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just that group. It was the guys

960
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: on the field. I mentioned this earlier. On the game

961
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: winning touchdown drive, Brandon Riley caught a pass and Shady

962
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: Lashawan McCoy came right over to him. It was right

963
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: in front of the Buffalo bench. If you're watching on MSG,

964
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: you can see it a sideline pass. Riley went up

965
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: brought it down. And that's LaShaun McCoy, by the way,

966
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: a bonifid NFL superstar who ran over and stood right

967
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: over Brandon Riley and encouraged him on. I mean, the

968
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: stars on the team were into that comeback last. Not

969
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: only not only did Shady was right there, Charity On

970
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: it was like all into it. Yeah, he was actually

971
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: up off the bench, like engaged. Yeah, the whole team

972
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: was standing up. They were, you know, all facing the field.

973
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: It was. It was really cool to see and and

974
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to what they're trying to

975
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: build here. And I think that and that is to me,

976
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: the quintessential lesson from last night's game. Forget about the

977
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: ups and downs of the individual players, of the coaches

978
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: and staff and the scouting staff are going to evaluate.

979
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: I think for fan bills fans, that was it and

980
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: that was something worth taking away. All Right, we got

981
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: a lot to take away and some analysis coming up

982
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: from Great co Sell. He is executive producer and analysts

983
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: for NFL Matchup on ESPN. He's also a long time

984
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: senior producer at NFL Films. He joins us a lot.

985
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna go through those quarterbacks with great co Sell

986
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: see what he thinks the depth chart should be. And

987
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: we'll take more of your phone calls in our number

988
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: two of the show. Come on back, One Bill's Live

989
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio

990
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Story Date. It's gonna be an eventful

991
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: a couple of days that One Bill's Drive. Coming off

992
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: last night's preseason win in Chicago, the Bills, with twenty

993
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: five points in the fourth quarter, came from behind to

994
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: beat the Bears twenty twenty seven the fourth and final

995
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: preseason game. A J. McCarron played the entire game, led

996
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: the Bills downfield for the goal ahead touchdown pass the

997
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: Keith Tobridge with thirteen seconds left. So the Bills finished

998
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: preseason with two wins, two losses, and now it's onto

999
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: the cuts. They have to lop thirty four names off

1000
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: the roster to get to the mandated fifty three man

1001
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: roster by four pm tomorrow. Jim Brandon Bean said last

1002
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: night the Bills will make their roster decisions today meet

1003
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: with players being let go, they're likely to announce the

1004
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: cuts on Saturday. Also they will watch the waiver wire

1005
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: to see if any of the team cuts players that

1006
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: they might be interested in. Last year, according to Bean,

1007
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Bills put in claims for four players who were waived

1008
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: and wound up with three of those four on the

1009
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo roster contract. News from out west the Rams and

1010
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald have finalized him the record six year, one

1011
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: hundred thirty five million dollars contract that includes eighty seven

1012
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, the richest defensive deal in NFL history.

1013
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: According to a source, Aaron Donald now tied to the

1014
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: Rams for the next seven years. He'll be ready for

1015
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: a Monday night opener against the Raiders. Khalil Max still

1016
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: holding out. He's been silent as he hold outs waiting

1017
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: for a new contract from Oakland. He commented on a

1018
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: tweak from the Athletic yesterday which showed the Raiders pas

1019
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: rush here after making a series of moves to get

1020
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Khalil Max's remark, I miss it. Long

1021
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: time Eagles tight end Brent Selik announcers have retired from

1022
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: the NFL today, spend all eleven years of his NFL

1023
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: career in an Eagles uniform. Penalties for the NFL's new

1024
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: helmet rule were slowed down considerably in the last couple

1025
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: of weeks. Eleven flags during Thursday Night's game. In the

1026
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: first thirty three games of the season, officials called the

1027
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: penalty fifth one times. In the final thirty two, they

1028
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: call it just twenty times, so they didn't call it

1029
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: as much. In the last couple of weeks, Yankees agreed

1030
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: to a trade with the Giants for Venner and outfielder

1031
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: Andrew mccutchon. Thirty one year old former National League MVP

1032
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: College Football. You be opens at season at home tomorrow

1033
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: night against Delaware State, six o'clock kickoff at ub Stadium.

1034
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: And that is the update from One Bill's Drive. Our

1035
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: number two John Murphy, Steve Tasker from our one Buffalo

1036
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Studio join right now on the line. By a frequent

1037
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: guest on the show, one of our good friends on

1038
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: the show. Executive producer and analysts for NFL Matchup on ESPN,

1039
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: Senior producer for NFL Films, Great Co salis with us. Greg.

1040
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking NFL Matchup. You must be what five or

1041
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: six days away from your first show of the year, Murph.

1042
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: We are starting not this weekend, next weekend, will be

1043
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: on seven thirty am Saturday morning of the first weekend

1044
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: of the NFL on ESPN two, and then the following

1045
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: morning we're on early six thirty am on ESPN. For

1046
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: most it's a DVR event, but yeah, we're pretty excited.

1047
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,959
Speaker 1: It's another season. My thirty ninth at Films, and I'm

1048
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: thinking that before we continue, you know, maybe I think

1049
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: I need some Aaron Donald money before I what do

1050
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: you think? Go ahead and ask for that we get

1051
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: all to use it. If I had all that money,

1052
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: I'd throw all the money I have away. But let

1053
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: me ask you a little bit about about the Bills situation.

1054
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: And last night we saw AJ McCarron, you know, do

1055
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: the big comeback in Chicago after playing not too good

1056
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: for three quarters, and maybe he's played himself into what

1057
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: could be a three quarterback race rather than just a

1058
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: two quarterback roster for the Buffalo Bills. And I know

1059
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: some teams keep three and some teams keep two. The

1060
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Bills to me, seem like a perfect candidate to maybe

1061
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: keep three guys because of the inexperience of maybe the

1062
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: presumable starter in Josh allen Or or Nathan Peterman and

1063
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron being the guy with a four years of

1064
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: experience I mean, is that where the line should be

1065
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: drawn there? Greg, what are your thoughts on two and

1066
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks? I think in this case, to me, it

1067
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: would make sense to keep three. Keep in mind that

1068
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: Karen has started games in the NFL and he's actually

1069
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: at times played well. Now, I think when all's said

1070
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: and done, mccaren and Nathan Peterman are probably similar stylistically

1071
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: in what you're going to expect from them, and and

1072
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: Josh Allen arguably is a totally different kind of player.

1073
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: But I think that mccaren was signed with the idea

1074
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: that he could well be the starting quarterback, and then

1075
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: obviously they drafted Josh Allen. But I think in this

1076
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: case it makes sense to keep three because you just

1077
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: don't really have any idea about Nathan Peterman. You have

1078
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: a sense of what he could be, but he started

1079
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: one game in the league, and Josh Allen has started

1080
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: no games in the NFL, So I think it makes

1081
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: sense to keep three. Steve Greg, We've been asking our

1082
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 1: listeners today their view of what the quarterback depth chart

1083
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: for the Bills would look like. So with those three,

1084
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: how would you set him up, who would be your starter?

1085
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: Wh would be at the top of the Bills quarterback

1086
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: depth chart. Well, my sense is if mccaren did not

1087
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: get hurt, he would probably be at the top of

1088
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: the depth chart because he starts games in this league

1089
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: and has actually acquitted himself reasonably well. And I think

1090
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: mccaren's arm is a little stronger than Peterman there stylistically

1091
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: similar as I said, Josh Allen, I think is probably

1092
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: a very up and down, a ratic player if you're

1093
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: to start him in a regular season game. And the

1094
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: issue for the Bills is coming off last year. I

1095
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: don't think they want to take a step back. You know,

1096
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: we can certainly talk about the rest of their roster,

1097
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: but I think they feel, hey, they made the playoffs

1098
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: last year with a lot of this roster, so you

1099
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: don't want to feel like every week is up and

1100
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: down depending on the play of your quarterback. And the

1101
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: last thing, I'm not a big believer. I don't know

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00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: how Steve feels. I'm not a big believer in yo

1103
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: yoing your quarterbacks. In other words, I wouldn't want to

1104
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: start Josh. Let's say plays poorly, then you yank them out.

1105
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: Then two weeks later you start him again and then

1106
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: you kind of wait and see. I'm not a big

1107
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: believer in the yo yoing of your quarterbacks throughout a season.

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00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: One of the things that's happening here in Buffalo as

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00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: you look at the first month of the season to schedule,

1110
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot of fans are looking at it and saying, listen,

1111
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: this is the perfect time when you're gonna go to Baltimore,

1112
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: then you play a great defensive front in the Chargers

1113
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, then you go to Minnesota, and then

1114
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: you go to Green Bay. I mean, it's a really

1115
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: tough first month of the schedule. So a lot of

1116
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: people have this idea that Hey, throw mccaren or Peterman

1117
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: to the Wolves for the first month, and then when

1118
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: they struggle, it's the perfect excuse to plug in the rookie. Yeah,

1119
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: and obviously if you're the Bills, you hope you don't struggle.

1120
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: But the point, the point being is that in an

1121
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: ideal world, mccaren and Peterman theoretically, theoretically the way they

1122
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: play don't turn the ball over. I know mccaren did

1123
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: throw two picks last night, but theoretically the way they

1124
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: play is they are more efficient, they're more game managers.

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00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: They don't turn it over. You give your entire team

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00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: a chance to be in the game, and maybe you

1127
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: can sneak out a tough road to win in the

1128
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. That's ideally what you're trying to do on

1129
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: the line. With Great Cosell, senior producer NFL Films, talking

1130
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, but really maybe the entire state of the

1131
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: Bill's roster coming out of preseason, Greg and you know

1132
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: they went into this season trying to build up the defense.

1133
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: Starlot Lala and Trent Murphy and Tremaine Edmonds. We didn't

1134
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: see a whole lot of any of those guys during

1135
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: the preseason. Maybe Edmonds a little bit in Game three.

1136
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: What do you think is the Steve used to talk

1137
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: about a top ten defense here this year. If the

1138
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 1: Bills improve themselves dramatically on the defensive side of the ball, well,

1139
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: I think they're going to feel good about their d

1140
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: tackle position. With Latoula and Kyle Williams when he comes back,

1141
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: you're going to have two guys who can both line

1142
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: up in a four man front and either one technique

1143
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: or three technique. Williams will probably play three technique more,

1144
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: but I think they feel good inside. The question is

1145
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: the past defense and the pass rush, because when you

1146
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: look at the pass rush, you'd have to say right

1147
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: now that Jerry us is really the only individual pass

1148
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: rusher that's on the roster, And how do they go

1149
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: about getting pressure on the quarterback? And for the most part,

1150
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is not a big blitz guy, but you

1151
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: somehow are likely to have to scheme some pressure because

1152
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: you just don't have the individual players. And unless they

1153
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: feel that Alexander you know, at this point in his

1154
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: career can line up as they do use him as

1155
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: sort of an edge rusher and almost like a joker

1156
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: movement guy in their nickel, unless they feel he can

1157
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: provide the necessary pass rush, Trent Murphy provide anything there?

1158
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: Do you think I see? To me, Trent Murphy is

1159
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: more of a clean up guy. I don't see him

1160
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: as an individual rusher that's going to beat offensive tackles

1161
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: consistently off the edge. I think he's a relentless grinder

1162
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: who when the pocket collapses and the quarterback sort of

1163
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: has to get out of his rhythm and get out

1164
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: of the timing of the play. I think Murphy can

1165
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: be that kind of guy, but I don't see him

1166
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: as a true edge rusher. Talk to us a little

1167
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: bit about the rest of the roster. I mean, this offense,

1168
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: they've been searching for some offensive lineman. They feel like

1169
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: they've got eight guys, seven or eight guys, but they

1170
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: all seem to be a little bit of a coin

1171
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: flip between any two that you pick, and they've been

1172
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: They really struggled when they started shuffling guys around to

1173
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: find out if if one and trying to rehearse the

1174
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: scenario of a guard getting hurt that center moves out

1175
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: to guard a new center, come, you know, that kind

1176
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: of thing, and they've struggled because of it. Yeah, and

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00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 1: I think Steve's a that's a key question mark going

1178
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: into the season because one thing about this all line,

1179
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: and obviously they want to run the ball. Look, we

1180
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: didn't see McCoy in the preseason, but we know that

1181
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: McCoy is the guy they have Ivory. I assume Marcus

1182
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: Murphield make the team based on his preseason, But the

1183
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: bottom line is they're not particularly athletic upfront, and and

1184
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: you don't need five thoroughbreds, but the interior is not

1185
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: a particularly athletic group at all, and that in today's

1186
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: day and age, where defensive linemen, linebackers are more and

1187
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: more athletic, and teams are doing more and more with

1188
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: their fronts and slants and stunts and all kinds of

1189
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: things that create problems if you're not particularly athletic. I

1190
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: think that's something we have to look at carefully once

1191
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: the regular season starts. On the Line with Greg Cosal,

1192
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: executive producer analyst of NFL Matchup starts next weekend on

1193
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: the ESPN, I want to ask you about the receivers

1194
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: on this roster and Kelvin Benjamin obviously is sitting there

1195
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: in the number one, but a season me the Bills

1196
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: have made a good faith, concerted effort to find more.

1197
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: You know, Corey Coleman got a ton of snaps during

1198
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: the preseason, Jeremy Curley, Zay Jones got played in almost

1199
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: the entire game yesterday. Where are the Bills at wide receiver?

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: What's the talent level like? And is that a cost

1201
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: for concern would you think, Greig Well, I think it's

1202
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: a question mark, Murph. You know, cost for concern is

1203
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: that's a little different. But Coleman, to me is critical

1204
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: here and again I don't know where he stands. Obviously,

1205
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: he was the first round pick who was given up

1206
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: on for a seventh round pick, so obviously in Cleveland

1207
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: they had no problem basically discarding him. But he's got

1208
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: tremendous speed. The question is can he end up being

1209
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: a Z kind of receiver, a movement receiver who you

1210
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: can use to get free access and use his speed

1211
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage because I think when all

1212
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: said and done, Kelvin Benjamin will be your X. And

1213
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: ideally that's what he's best suited to be, the line

1214
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: of scrimmage X. And ideally you can throw it up

1215
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: to him. He can make some contested catches, he can

1216
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: run in breaking routes with his size, but they need

1217
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: some speed and ideally Coleman can give them that. He

1218
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have to catch seventy five balls for twelve hundred yards,

1219
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: but he needs to be on the field because he

1220
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: provides that to mension. Yet most teams, and what's your experience,

1221
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: and as you look at these rosters, are teams keeping

1222
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: six or seven wide receivers and then activating five on

1223
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: game day or depending as to how deep they go,

1224
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: do they have one of those guys being a returner

1225
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: and then another guy actually being a coverage guy or

1226
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: a help out guy. But our team's keeping seven and

1227
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: eight wide receivers these days, ares is still five or six.

1228
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: Well you would know this way better of than nice Steve.

1229
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: But I think the wide receivers who end up being five,

1230
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: six or seven have to play special teams. If you

1231
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: if you don't play special teams, you're not going to

1232
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: be kept as a fifth receiver because then you're not

1233
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: going to get on the field. There's you know, unless

1234
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: people get hurt. So you have to be able to

1235
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: play special teams, whether you're a turnman or whether you're

1236
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: going to run down on you know, puns and kickoffs.

1237
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: You have to be able to contribute in some way

1238
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: if you're a fifth or sixth receiver. Hey, Greg guy,

1239
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: I know you do extensive work prior to the draft

1240
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: and around draft time. And the Bills have an interesting

1241
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: draft class and they have some interesting rookies draft picks

1242
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: who are likely to be contributors this year. Edmonds former

1243
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, a first round of this year, Harrison Phillips

1244
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: coming out of the third round, and Darren Johnson in

1245
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: the fourth round. What do you think of what contributions

1246
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: can the Bills expect from that group or maybe anybody

1247
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: else in their rookie class. Well, I think that's a

1248
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: good group. I mean, to me, Harrison Phillips is an

1249
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: outstanding rotational D lineman right now. That's what he'll be

1250
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: if Kyle Williams is healthy, and I think he'll fit

1251
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: that role really well and I think he'll grow into it. Um,

1252
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: I think Johnson doesn't look like basically you're you guys

1253
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: are there? Does it look like Johnson's going to be

1254
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: the slot corner? Yes, I think he is. He's got yeah, yeah.

1255
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean I really liked him coming out of colleague,

1256
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised at all. So I think he's

1257
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: he's a good slot corner and I think that that's

1258
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: where he fits in the NFL. He's really athletic, so, uh,

1259
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that's a that's really good. Um.

1260
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: Who else did you mentioned Murphy? We know about Edmonds

1261
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: he's going to be the starting mica all out because

1262
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: we don't know what his future holds, at least immediately here.

1263
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: And then also the fifth rounder, Wyatt Teller, who played

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Speaker 1: most of the game last night. Who's a big bodied guy.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I like that kid, and

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Speaker 1: I think that as the season progresses, if he develops

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Speaker 1: the way they hope, he's going to be a starter. Because,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, he was a defensive player coming

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Speaker 1: out of high school. That's right, and he's to the

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Speaker 1: athlete of Lyne. He's are more athletic than what they

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Speaker 1: have right now. Now. Obviously he was a fifth round

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Speaker 1: or so. No one thought he was a top forty pick.

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Speaker 1: But there was a time at Virginia Tech when people

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Speaker 1: thought that he could potentially be a second round type pick.

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Speaker 1: It obviously didn't work out, and I think if he

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Speaker 1: continues to develop, he's going to be a starter for

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Speaker 1: this team. I was looking for snap counts from last night,

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Speaker 1: but Steve's right to the Bill said sixty seven offensive plays.

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Speaker 1: I bet Wyatt Teller is in on sixty five of them.

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Speaker 1: Last night he was in a yeah, I think he

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Speaker 1: was on at least sixty of him. If he wasn't

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Speaker 1: in there was yeah, I don't I didn't see the

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Speaker 1: play he wasn't in. He played the entire game, I think,

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Speaker 1: and they were looking taking a good long look at him,

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Speaker 1: great guy thought, Guys, he played well in his previous

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Speaker 1: games as well. I know I noticed him when I

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Speaker 1: was watching the tape, you know, so I think he's

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Speaker 1: got a real opportunity. You know, so much of that

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Speaker 1: is mental as well, and understanding the cohesion that's required

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Speaker 1: on the old line, and understanding fronts and you know,

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Speaker 1: things that are more detailed in the NFL than they

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Speaker 1: are in college. So I don't know where he stands

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Speaker 1: in those areas. He's clearly more athletic than what they're

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Speaker 1: putting out there as daughters. The guy. One more Bills

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Speaker 1: question for you, and then a couple of questions about

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Speaker 1: the rest of the league. But you know, we tried that,

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Speaker 1: Steve and I tried to do the show without putting

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Speaker 1: blinders on. Every once in a while, you'll come across

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Speaker 1: somebody who says, Wow, this Bills team is bereft of talent.

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Speaker 1: They have no talented wide receiver, no talented and offensive line.

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Speaker 1: What's your honest assessment of where they stand in terms

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Speaker 1: of talent on the roster? I mean, should we'd be

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Speaker 1: worried about that? They really in trouble at some positions here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're missing some things you would

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Speaker 1: like to have. But you probably could have said the

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Speaker 1: same thing a year ago and they made the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: which was probably a surprise to many. But I think

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Speaker 1: we spoke about their all line. They're going to have

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Speaker 1: to get better up front, and it may not happen

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Speaker 1: this year. You can't do everything in one year, as

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Speaker 1: you guys know. I think they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: find another pass rusher. Whether there's one on the roster

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Speaker 1: that ultimately emerges, that's hard to say, but they're going

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Speaker 1: to need that. See. I don't think and I know

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Speaker 1: that this group didn't draft him, but I don't Shack

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Speaker 1: Lawson is an edge player. I think he's an edge

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Speaker 1: player as a strong side d end in your base

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Speaker 1: four three, but I think as a potential rusher you'd

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Speaker 1: have to move him inside. I don't think he's an

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. So I think they need to find that guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the receiver position. Yes, it's a work

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Speaker 1: in progress right now. I mean, look, Calvin Benjamin was

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Speaker 1: a first round pick in the NFL, and you could

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Speaker 1: argue he's a quality player. Corey Coleman was a first

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Speaker 1: round pick. Za Jones was the second round pick. It's

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Speaker 1: not as if they don't have players with pedigree. It's

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Speaker 1: now time for these players to perform. You know, these

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Speaker 1: guys are players who people thought pretty highly of. So

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Speaker 1: are their concerns. Absolutely, And we'll have to wait and

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Speaker 1: see how it plays out. Greg, you'll sell Executive producer

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Speaker 1: analyst NFL Matchup on the ESPN A couple of league

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Speaker 1: wide questions for you, Greg. A couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater gets traded to the Saints seems like the

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Speaker 1: perfect happy ending story for everybody, the Jets, the Saints,

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Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater. Right, what do you see there? Unless

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees places five more years? Right then? Not so heavy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it's a really good spot

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Speaker 1: for Teddy for the kind of quarterback he is in

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Speaker 1: the system, because I think he's a rhythm player. You know,

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: he's not a big, strong, physical kid. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a gun. One could argue, I hate comparing players to

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Speaker 1: you know, a Hall of Fame type players, but Drew

1343
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: Brees stylistically, you could argue, is similar. You know, he's

1344
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: just so great at what he does. But I think

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: the nature of that offense fits Teddy Bridgewater perfectly. Of course,

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Speaker 1: that leaves Sam Darnold as the likeliest starter with the

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Speaker 1: Jets in New York. Is he up to that task?

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Speaker 1: And do the Jets have to maybe ratchet down their

1349
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: expectation level a little bit starting a rookie. Well, all

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Speaker 1: we have is, or all I have, because I'm out

1351
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: of practice, obviously, is seeing him on tape. And he's

1352
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Speaker 1: been very good on tape. He's done some very good things.

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Speaker 1: He's actually looked better than he did at USC, looked

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Speaker 1: more poised, more, which is very surprising to me. I'm

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: anxious to see what happens when it's you know, second

1356
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Speaker 1: and long and third and long and all the detailed

1357
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: pressure concepts and blitz schemes come at him. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: find out. But that's true with any young quarterback or

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. But I think he's executed very well what

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Speaker 1: he's been asked to execute in the preseason. Talk to

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Speaker 1: us a little bit about some of the other quarterbacks,

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield, who it has been I think that

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson has chiseled it into stone that he's not

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Speaker 1: going to see the field this year as long as

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor's there. But but you know, Baker Mayfield has

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Speaker 1: played very well when he's gotten in the games, and listen,

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Speaker 1: we hear in Buffalo know as well as anything, sometimes

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor can get frustrating as a starting quarterback. Do

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Speaker 1: you think, yeah, Do you think Baker Mayfield makes it

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Speaker 1: the entire season without starting a game? My gut response

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Speaker 1: to that would be no. And I think he's played

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Speaker 1: very well in the preseason as well as as Darnell.

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Speaker 1: But I think that, Look, we're trying to be realistic here.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills were a playoff team a year ago, correct,

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Speaker 1: but yet they were more than willing to let their

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback go. He goes to Cleveland. Cleveland then drafts

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Speaker 1: a quarterback with the first pick in the draft, so

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Speaker 1: we don't have to speculate, guys, Cleveland has already told

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Speaker 1: you what they think of Tyrod Taylor because they drafted

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Speaker 1: a quarterback with the first pick in the draft. So

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Speaker 1: unless the team is winning a lot of games and

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01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: their roster is better than people think, so I don't

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01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: think they're going to go twelve and four, but I

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to go one in fifteen. But

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Speaker 1: you know, unless they they're winning early. My guess is

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Speaker 1: you'll see Baker Mayfield relatively early. Huh hey, Greg. At

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Speaker 1: the other end of the quarterback spectrum, Aaron Rodgers gets

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Speaker 1: the huge deal, huge money for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: in some respects, you know, you know why they do it,

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01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: you know why they pay him that. But it's also

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01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: a little bit like paying him for past performance, which

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01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: is not always a good idea in the NFL. Right,

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: what what lies ahead for Aaron Rodgers? What sort of

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Speaker 1: a quarterback you think he can be the rest of

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01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: whatever remains of his career. You know, there's no question

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01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: about his talent, and a lot of people, you know,

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: say he's he's got the most talent we've ever seen

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Speaker 1: and all that, and you know, we don't need to

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Speaker 1: debate his talent um. He's a very interesting interesting player

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Speaker 1: to me because to me, he plays the game kind

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01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: of like a jazz musician, not like a classical pianist.

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's sort of an improvisational nature to

1403
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: his game, which is so spectacular because he's such a

1404
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: great thrower of the football that it we elevate him.

1405
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Speaker 1: But there are times when I watch the tape and

1406
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Speaker 1: we all do in our matchup room here at Films,

1407
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: and he doesn't throw passes that need to be thrown

1408
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Speaker 1: in the within the timing and rhythm of the offense.

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Speaker 1: We kind of all look at each other. So is

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Speaker 1: he a super talent and a great player, Yes, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes I just wonder if he could believe it or

1412
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: not be even better? Well that's an interest an interesting Yeah,

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01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: and he may be right, but I think also, what

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Speaker 1: does it leave and this kind of cap number. I mean,

1415
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: you're talking to thirty three million bucks on average a year.

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Speaker 1: Can they put enough talent around him with that kind

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Speaker 1: of constraint on their salary cap to make him you know, competitive? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the issue, I guess you face. I mean, clearly

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Speaker 1: that's been a problem for a lot of teams when

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Speaker 1: they sign quarterbacks, and it's a concern. So I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see. But look, the money

1422
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: becomes the money yet. You know, I was at the

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Speaker 1: gym the other day, you know, when somebody asked me

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: about Odell Beckham, as he worth it. I always say

1425
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: to people, I don't get into those conversations. The money

1426
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: ends up being the money you're either going to pay

1427
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Speaker 1: the guy or he's not going to be on your team.

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Speaker 1: So you have to decide. You know, someone now next

1429
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: year is going to say they want Aaron Rodgers money

1430
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: or more money, and depending on who it is, the

1431
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: team's going to have to decide, Okay, we're gonna pay him,

1432
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: or he's not going to be our quarterback, and then

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: they might have to line up, you know, a backup

1434
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Speaker 1: quarterback at the position. So you know how that goes. Yeah, yeah,

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: there's no there's no getting around it. If if the

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Speaker 1: player wants to be paid and won't play without it,

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01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: that's their only recourse. And now we're talking. And then

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Speaker 1: now the last thing Steve just described the Khalil Mack situation,

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01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: the report that the Raiders will look for at least

1440
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: two first round picks. Does that sound like that will

1441
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: make sense for somebody who really really wanted Khalil Mack

1442
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: get to give up that much. Well, he's a pass

1443
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: rusher and they're in high demand in the NFL. So

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: the question becomes, you know, what are you willing to

1445
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: give up? And I guess we'll find out. I guess

1446
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: if a team feels like they're real close, maybe to

1447
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: being a Super Bowl type contender. You know, when they're

1448
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: lacking a pass rush, you know, do you do? You

1449
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: do that? That's it always comes down to that. Well,

1450
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: you know what you feel that you need wait and

1451
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: wait and wait. Some people thought that Jets could have

1452
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: waited longer and gotten more for Teddy Bridgewater. So it's

1453
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: just you know, then you play the waiting game. Yeah,

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: all right, Hey, um next week, we'll get you on

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: next Friday and a little preview of the Bills in

1456
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: Baltimore and maybe a little Joe Flacco talk next Friday.

1457
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: What do you think, Rick? Absolutely Joe Flacco from South Jersey,

1458
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: ten minutes from where I am. Sounds good. That's great

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Speaker 1: holiday weekend. Greg. We'll talk you in next week. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Greg cosal He is executive producer and analyst

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: of NFL Matchup on ESPN. As he said that their

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Speaker 1: first show coming up next weekend. Senior producer of NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: thirty nine years of NFL films. He's a good run. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good run. And it's imagine the video, the

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Speaker 1: miles of video he's looked at just for today's a printing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot going and that's one of the you

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: talk about things that you know, like the sports shows

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Speaker 1: and the talk shows and sports radio and how it's

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01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: kind of centers around. But the the NFL films is

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost a national treasure when you think

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Speaker 1: about the interest that the league generates and how NFL

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Speaker 1: Films has chronicled I mean everything, and now they're doing

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Speaker 1: it even further with you know, Hard Knocks and all

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: the other programming that they put out. It's it's it's

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Speaker 1: an awesome little company and there there archives are limitless.

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: Did Greg answer the question about what the Bills depth

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: chartered quarterback should look like? I don't think he did.

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Speaker 1: Did he give us an he thought they should keep

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: all three though? Yeah? And we're getting some feedback on

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: Twitter that some people think that they should cut AJ

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01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: McCarn because they don't want you know, they want to

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Speaker 1: trade him or get something for him. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to subscribe to that. I think he's got a place

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Speaker 1: on this roster. Okay, we're gonna talk more about that

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: and get your thoughts your Buffalo Bills quarterback depth chart.

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Speaker 1: Now that preseason is open, we got phone lines open

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. Eight oh three five fifty or

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Speaker 1: from Outside Buffalo toll Free at one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty plus Steve and I. What

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Speaker 1: we liked, maybe what we didn't like about preseason for

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Speaker 1: the Bills this year. All of that coming up when

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful day. I just I poked my head

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01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: out the door when it's perfect temper last night was

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01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: a great temperature too, and where were in Chicago? But

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: it's beautiful here in what your Park today. I think

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: the weekend sets up pretty well. You stuck your head

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: out the door, climbed out from under the rock we

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: live under. Ye took a look at this blue sky.

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: It's beautiful out it is, Yeah, it is. It's nice

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01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: to be working inside in a cold office. Yeah. I

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01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: don't know if that was sarcasm or what that was snark? Yes? Okay, hey, um,

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Speaker 1: preseason over, what's your quarterback depth chart for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that eight h three five fifty and

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight by fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: It's my it's my contention. I just kind of came

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01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: to it today while we were talking about this, because

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01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: you know who really thinks ahead, Um, do you think

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01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: the Bills maybe probably have considered whether they're gonna keep one,

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01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: two or three quarterbacks. I don't think it's question. Aj

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: mccaren could have played better last night, But the things

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01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 1: that he showed, I think Sean McDermott the coaching staff

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01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: would value on this team, and I think almost to

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01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: the point where that might put them over on the

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01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: other side of the fences to keep three guys instead

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: of just two. They only kept two last year, and

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: it almost bit him because they had to finish a

1521
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: game with Joe Webb at quarterback. Now that's the game

1522
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: they won, but it was a little, as we all know,

1523
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: extenuating circumstances where they had a foot of snow on

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01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: the ground against the Colts. So I'm just interested and

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01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: maybe we'll find out someday, maybe we won't as to

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: what that did for AJ mccaren last night. Yeah, yeah,

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Will they ever tell us? I don't

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: know they might, But do you think it enhanced Yes,

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: because of the way he hung in there and fought

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: back and helped them win the game. Yes, I do.

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01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: And then he did not play well early in the game,

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: and he talked about it, you know, and again I

1533
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: was there at his locker room, and it was a

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 1: good five six minute conversation about his night, focus obviously

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01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: primarily on how it ended, but he knew that you know,

1536
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: the two interceptions, the one the sidelined interception, that's not good,

1537
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: that was ugly. That was like the kind of interception

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: you'll worry about with Nathan Peterman, right and then the

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: other one off off a helmet. I believe right now

1540
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: you've got a d lineman batted it up and that's

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01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: hit in the air. Yeah. Yeah, mccaren did talk about

1542
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: it last night. I was right there at his locker

1543
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: He talked about the chance to play the entire fourth

1544
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: preseason game and had this reaction to his performance. Was

1545
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: AJ mccaren in the locker room last night. It was awesome,

1546
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: you know. Um, like I said, just first half being

1547
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: a little rusty from being out a week not practicing. Um,

1548
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, I just I couldn't get things to go

1549
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: our way and we just had some unlucky bounces and uh,

1550
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: whatever's just awesome. Man. We're blessed to be able to

1551
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: play this game, um for a living. I mean, it's

1552
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: a game that we get paid um handsomely at and

1553
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: uh and it's fun and uh and I love being

1554
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: a part of this team and I love being out

1555
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: there being able to battle with the guys. Tonight it

1556
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: was awesome. And again I'm going to repeat what I

1557
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: said right near the top of the show, there was

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: genuine emotion coming from a J. McCarron about what happened,

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: how it played out. I was impressed by that, I

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: have to say him, try not to be jaded. I

1561
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: was impressed at how much he cared. How you know,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he met with that group, that he

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01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: played with, that group of guys who may not be

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: around much longer, some of them and met with him

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: the night before, talked about what this game means, talked

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Speaker 1: about winning for each other, you know, being friends with

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Speaker 1: each other. That was genuine stuff last night. It kind

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: of impressed me. It get impressed me now. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that he did it through four quarters of

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Speaker 1: the game when things really looked bleak and he hadn't

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01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: played well up to that point, and they count in

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: the on the they got on the field, and he

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01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: told him in the hut, he says, listen, we're gonna

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01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, he told him. He convinced him they were

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: gonna do it. They took a couple of bad plays

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01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: to start it. They got to a fourth and twenty

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: two and they got a big, huge break with a

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: penalty where the guy hit him on the head after

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: he'd thrown it for an easy penalty by the officials.

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01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: And then they kept it going and he got a

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01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: couple of great catches. You know, he just kept battling

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01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: all the way down the field and the ups and

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: downs just within that drive. Forget about the hole that

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 1: they had to climb out of, and they just hung

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01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: in there and he finished. I guess that's the way

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: to say it. He finished that game. Yeah, he finished

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: that game. When you guys like you and me and

1588
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: fans in Chicago fans and Buffalo turning the game off,

1589
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: going and doing something else, he finished the game and

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01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: he was rewarded for it. And there's something really cool

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01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: about that. So that answers to me. That answers the

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01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: question you asked. Do you think the coaching staff and

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01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: the personnel people were impressed by his performance last night?

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01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: I think yes, based on what I know about what

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: they judged to be important. I think it was. McDermott

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01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: was asked last night. Sean McDermott talked about it in

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: the locker room last night about AJ McCarron and the

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: comeback for the team and what it meant. Here's the

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01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: head coach of the Bills. I think that's our team.

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: You know. The way that he fought in battle, that's

1601
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: that's uh, the way our team fought and battled, and

1602
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 1: it's it's it was good to see. It was fun

1603
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: to watch, fun to watch the guys. And you watched

1604
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: it in the fourth preseason game. You've been around somewhere.

1605
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 1: They're yawning. You're yawning in the fourth quarter, right and

1606
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: you can't wait to get home or write your story,

1607
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: um in this case, unless you were down here Vic

1608
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: and the press room. And that was that was fun

1609
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: to watch. I was exciting football and hopefully the fans

1610
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: got to stay up a little late in Buffalo and

1611
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: watch it. Yeah. I went a little late. I had

1612
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: a problem with that too, Steve. So I tape games

1613
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: on the DVR at home. Well, you got to go

1614
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: with the extend. I did not because I'm sitting there

1615
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: before we left Wednesday, I'm programming and it says, do

1616
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: you want to extend fifteen minutes thirty minutes? I'm like, no,

1617
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: I don't really, I'm sure I'm not gonna I'm thinking,

1618
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not gonna want to watch the last

1619
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: five minutes of this game. No, I don't want to extend. Well,

1620
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,879
Speaker 1: I haven't looked, but I'm certain I missed the important

1621
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: parts of that. Comeback. I don't DVR, and I got

1622
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: the game pass. I go back. I'll do that too.

1623
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: I watched that's I like watching the big screen stuff,

1624
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: you know when you put it on your big in

1625
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,799
Speaker 1: your game pass. Yeah I can, I can, Yeah you can. Yeah,

1626
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: I've done it before. And that's it's great. That's great.

1627
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: That's a great listen you want to talk about. I

1628
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: know that we live in the in the in the

1629
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: technology age, but I'm telling you something. Once in a while, man,

1630
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: it comes through for you. Yeah, and having a big

1631
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: screen TV and the game pass and just kind of

1632
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: thumbing through anything you want to man, it's great. I

1633
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: love it. It's great time, great time, great time to

1634
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: be alive. What do you think of the Bill's quarterback

1635
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: depth chart? Now give us your thoughts. Phone lines open

1636
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: eight O three five fifty toll free one eight eight

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01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Dave on the line from Florida, Dave,

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01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, welcome to the show. Doing Steve good, doing well?

1639
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: All right, great, listen. My depth chart is mccaren first, Alan,

1640
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: and then Peterman is because of experience that mccaren does

1641
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: have in this past. And the other thing I want

1642
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: to bring up was we ought to start looking at

1643
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: the waiver lines for offensive line linemen. That's gonna be

1644
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: a big problem for us. Other than that, I think

1645
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: we're going to be just fine. Kay, Who do you

1646
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: expect to get off the waiver wire that would help

1647
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: out your offensive line? We got to find a lineman.

1648
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: We got to find one or two linemen all line. Yeah. Look,

1649
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: all offensive linemen are at a premium in the league.

1650
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: No one's going to release one who's worth anything, but

1651
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: it's worth looking. I agree with you there, yeah, Dave,

1652
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: I hear you too. And it is going to be

1653
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: a concern until they prove that they should not be

1654
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: a concern, and that's h and I agree with you.

1655
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: I do agree with you too, and they will. They'll

1656
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: probably put maybe two or three offensive linemen on their

1657
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: practice squad, some of them that are in camp with

1658
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: the Bills now, and probably some of them could be

1659
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: from teams that are that are releasing guys. It'll be

1660
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: guys that they have files on that they know that

1661
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: they were intrigued by earlier and this didn't get a

1662
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: chance to sign them. But they'll bring guys in, no

1663
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: question about it, to be a part of the team

1664
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: as the practice squad player and they'll go from there.

1665
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you that whatever question marks

1666
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: you have on your roster, you're always going to look

1667
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: around and see if you can get better. And I

1668
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they signed a couple of linebackers

1669
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire. The problem is this, and we

1670
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: talked to Brandon Bean about it in the booth last

1671
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: night on the broadcast. They're twenty first in the waiver order,

1672
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: so twenty teams are that are ahead of them get

1673
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: to choose the guys before the Buffalo Bills get a

1674
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: chance to sign them, and if one of those twenty

1675
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: one other teams or twenty other teams get them or

1676
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: put a claim in on the same guy they do,

1677
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: the Bills won't get them. So it's not gonna they

1678
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: got three guys like that last year when they were

1679
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: in the top ten. This year they're in the bottom third,

1680
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: and it may not be as easy to find the

1681
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: guys you really like. And that's all based on where

1682
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: they finished last year. And there comes a point this

1683
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: season where they go in this year's records, like about

1684
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: a third of the way into the season, maybe halfway through.

1685
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: The waiver claims are awarded based on what your current

1686
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: record is, but now it's the last year's record. Twenty first,

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01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: here is Elvin in the Hello, Alvin, welcome to the show. Hey,

1688
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: how's it going guys? Fect? Listen? How's everything guys? Great?

1689
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: Good man? What do you got question? I want to

1690
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: ask you guys something to see what you guys think.

1691
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 1: I think we should keep all three quarterbacks, but I

1692
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: want to opinion on something. What do you guys think

1693
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: if we kept a J. Mccarrollan as well as Alan

1694
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: and looked at Um Peterman trade Peterman, Yeah, listen. I'm

1695
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,799
Speaker 1: a I'm kind of I'm kind of like you, Alvin.

1696
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: I like to keep my business hat on once in

1697
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: a while. And if I'm a big believer in you're

1698
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: trying to get better. And if if some other team,

1699
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: no matter who it is, calls you about anybody here,

1700
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: a team from Lashawn McCoy all the way down to

1701
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, Austin Prole, whoever you pick, I mean from

1702
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: that from your star player to win your seventh round

1703
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: draft pick, you gotta listen. Um, If somebody wanted Nathan Peterman, yeah,

1704
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean you get something for it. If you get

1705
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: something for him, it depends on what you get. I

1706
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: think every player is under that. I don't see any

1707
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: player on the Bill's roster as being untradable. Maybe Josh Allen,

1708
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: but even so, depends on what you get back for him.

1709
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: Do you get Sam Darnold and and uh Baker Mayfield

1710
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: for you know, the prices skyrockets for those guys. And

1711
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman probably is worth more than AJ McCarron right

1712
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: at this point, just because of the way he's played

1713
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: in the preseason and how he's bounced back and the

1714
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: things people are saying about his character. Teams look for

1715
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: guys like that, So yeah, I'm I don't have a

1716
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: problem with that. I don't know that I would go

1717
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: out and shop him. Like maybe you're alluding to, but

1718
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: nobody's nobody's above that. Yeah, anything else, Elvin, No, that's

1719
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: sit man. I just wanted the guy's opinion on that. Yeah,

1720
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: and that's Elvin's the first one I've heard bring that up.

1721
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 1: Maybe you trade Peterman because he's gotten more value perceived value,

1722
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't. Yeah, I kind of like the

1723
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: way he's played. I like, I'm kind of like most

1724
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 1: Bills fan. I'm kind of rooting for him for redemption,

1725
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: particularly week two. I want to see him beat the Chargers. Yeah,

1726
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. I want to beat the Ravens

1727
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: first year, just win, man, I'm with you on the

1728
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,440
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. What's the quarterback depth chart? Now the preseason

1729
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: is over? From Wandering Jack, he goes one Peterman at

1730
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: least Week one two Alan at first he goes. He

1731
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: goes on to say, I thought McCarron had a nice

1732
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: fourth quarter last night. I expect them to wave or

1733
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: trade him. Hearing Jacksonville is looking for a veteran backup.

1734
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get a six or seventh for him.

1735
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: Seems like a good dude just didn't work out for

1736
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: him here. They may wave, they may wave or trade

1737
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: aj McCarron Stephen. I think are both of the belief

1738
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: that they're going to be three quarterbacks here. And I

1739
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: don't know that McCarron's trade value would be such that

1740
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna make you a deal you can't refuse, right,

1741
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're you're right about that, wondering ject. There's

1742
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: a lot of teams, not just Jacksonville, but a lot

1743
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: of teams looking for a backup quarterback. Listen, Jacksonville is

1744
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: the is the top team on everybody's list because they

1745
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: because of Blake Bortles, they just nobody really leaves in

1746
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: him outside of their locker room. And also they got

1747
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: Jacksonville got crushed for not making a bigger play for

1748
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. A lot of people thought Teddy Bridgewater might

1749
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: be the missing piece for Jacksonville to get to a

1750
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year because of this quality of their

1751
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: defense and the fact they got Leonard Fournette, who's a

1752
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: phenomenal running back. They did lose their wide receiver to

1753
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: an injury, but Marquis Lee. But yeah, I mean so,

1754
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Jacksonville Jaguars are that interested

1755
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: in acquiring another quarterback. A tweet from Eric richardson his

1756
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: ranking the Bill's quarterback depth chart. Now he's got Alan

1757
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: number one, his ability to make plays the others can't.

1758
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 1: Will be growing planes. Rather have them this year than

1759
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: wait a year. McCarron number two played at a playoff

1760
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: game and proved he can stick with it when things

1761
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: go bad. Peter and number three. If preseason games only,

1762
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: he'd be the MVP, not one, it counts. That's all

1763
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: harsh judgment on Nathan Peterman. We'll see I've played pretty

1764
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: well against the Indianapolis coltson horrible cans last year. But

1765
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: I see that I'm getting the sense that at first

1766
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was almost unanimous. People are gonna line

1767
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: him up, Peterman, Alan, and mccaren and then we have

1768
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: some different opinions here, some high opinion of a J. Mccaren, Yeah,

1769
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: a lot of I think AJ enhanced his opinion with

1770
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: Bill's fans yesterday. And I think also there's there's always

1771
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: going to be those fans out there that say, listen,

1772
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: what are we waiting on here. You know, let's get

1773
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Let's support him as much as we can,

1774
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 1: let him get better and take our lumps here in

1775
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and uh and see what we've got. Um,

1776
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: there's always going to be that that group out there,

1777
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I see it. I see it. If

1778
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 1: sooner or later he's going to get a play and

1779
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: you want to be as successful as he can be.

1780
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: But I think he'll take fewer lumps the longer reason

1781
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: the league without taking those without playing every day. So

1782
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know what that's a it's a

1783
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:56,440
Speaker 1: great question. It's like analytics. None of this is predictive,

1784
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we can't can't make any conclusions,

1785
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: but it's everybody has their own opinion, and I'm kind

1786
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: of with the most of the people. It's got to

1787
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: be it's gotta be Peterman or AJ to begin with.

1788
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: And I think AJ kind of is the flavor of

1789
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: the day because of the job the last night, because

1790
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: last night we'll talk more about this. What's the quarterback

1791
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: depth chart look like for the Bills? In your opinion?

1792
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: Give us a call. Lines open eight oh three five

1793
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight, eight, five fifty two,

1794
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: five fifty back with more one Bills Live from One

1795
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio, rolling along

1796
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: till three pm today. The big weekend is almost here, Steve,

1797
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: and I'll be back tomorrow. I'm coming out here tomorrow.

1798
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: I work for the website. Cover for the website. Dude.

1799
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: It's a big day tomorrow. A lot of news coming

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01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: out of here tomorrow, right with the cutouts. So yeah,

1801
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: this was the last tweet sheet that we finished down.

1802
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: One tweet sheet, one more to go. Got calls to

1803
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: the Bills quarterback depth chart. What do you think it

1804
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: looks like right now? Or what would you like it

1805
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: to look like more accurately. By the way, I didn't

1806
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: want to pass that up. I appreciate you working tomorrow

1807
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: with it so I don't have to. I appreciate the sacristy. Welcome.

1808
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to Josh and West Seneca. Hello, Josh, welcome, Hey,

1809
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Guys? Clearly well, thank you.

1810
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,799
Speaker 1: Um more of a question, I guess in a comment.

1811
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, I can definitely understand where you know we're

1812
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: all coming from with you know, mccaren or Peterman. They're

1813
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: leading us with some good wins, you know, short term.

1814
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: But if where we are going to be building our

1815
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: franchise around Josh Allen, um, you know, wouldn't it be

1816
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: better for us to have him start right away, you know,

1817
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: keep mine too, you know, for the rest of the

1818
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: season or even part of this season where he can't

1819
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: do you know, develop the skills and things like that.

1820
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you know, wouldn't if you for us to uh,

1821
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, get him on right away so that we

1822
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: can you know, take our lumps like you you know,

1823
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: you guys were staying right. It's a legitimate question, Josh,

1824
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: it really is. And he, you know's he remains the

1825
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: future of the franchise. I believe Josh Allen, but you know,

1826
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: we saw him last Sunday. I think the consensus is

1827
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: and I feel this way. He demonstrated last Sunday that

1828
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: he's not quite ready to line up and start an

1829
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: NFL game. And so I don't hear people say, well,

1830
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: they got to protect him. People say they I'm worried

1831
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 1: about the schedule, who they're playing. I'm worried about our

1832
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: offensive line. I'm not worried about that. I want Josh

1833
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: Allen to be ready to play. I want him to

1834
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: be ready to play, and based on what we saw

1835
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,480
Speaker 1: last Sunday, I don't know if you can really definitively

1836
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: say that now. And here's the might take Josh, and

1837
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying as well. It would probably

1838
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: be best for Josh Allen to have him start and

1839
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: get learn what he can learn and get started on

1840
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: his career and start, you know, getting used to the

1841
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: speed of the game and all that stuff. But it's

1842
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: not best for the team. What's best for the team

1843
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: is to put the guy out there who gives him

1844
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 1: a chance to win against the Baltimore Ravens and then

1845
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: after that against the LA Chargers, and after that against

1846
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and after that against the Green Bay Package.

1847
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: You've got to put the guy out there that gives

1848
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: you the best chance to win. That's what's best for

1849
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: the team. And what's best for Josh Allen is is

1850
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: not that it may be something else to have him start,

1851
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,759
Speaker 1: but his personal you know, what's good for him personally

1852
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: has to take a backseat to what's best for the

1853
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's team and the rest of the roster, and

1854
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: that means to have him sit for a minute and

1855
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: watch these other guys, and he'll learn plenty. Particularly, he'll

1856
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: learn a lot if the team wins around him, and

1857
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 1: it'll be a great atmosphere for him to learn it.

1858
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,600
Speaker 1: It'll really give him a chance to find out what

1859
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: it takes to do it, and I think that he'll

1860
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: get a lot of value out of that. But I

1861
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: agree with I agree with Josh west Seneca. The best

1862
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: thing for Josh Allen is to start day one, go

1863
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 1: and don't look back. But that's not what's best for

1864
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,719
Speaker 1: the team. Thanks for your call. Let's go to Marguerite

1865
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 1: in Tonawando. It's a different take. Marguerite, go ahead, you're

1866
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: on the air with us. Well, hi, guys, I just

1867
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: wanted to comment on what you were talking about at

1868
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. Watching this game, and I

1869
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: have to admit I went back and forth, but I

1870
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: did get the last of it. And when that when

1871
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Troubridge caught that ball, that was not a preseason game

1872
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: to us watching it, we reacted like this. We forgot

1873
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: it was preseason. And the thing that hit me was

1874
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: just what hit you. It was the camaraderie on the field,

1875
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. It's that just like the statements that

1876
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: we're going with this year. It's what made it one

1877
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: heartbeat louder all right, Yeah, yeah, I don't think and

1878
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it. You need talent to win

1879
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you need good strategy, you need

1880
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: a well coached team, but you do need chemistry, you

1881
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: do need culture and character, and that was on display

1882
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: last night. I don't know if it's the most important thing,

1883
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: but it's important and I'm glad they have it here.

1884
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Speaker 1: It was demonstrated last night. Yeah, and you're right. We

1885
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: spoke about that for the first half fire of the show,

1886
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things. She's right, you forgot

1887
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 1: about all that preseason, all the meaningless stuff. Forget about

1888
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 1: it was It was a great game to be a

1889
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: part of. It was a great moment for the team,

1890
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 1: even if it was fleeting, Even if it if it

1891
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: did come after the fact that they didn't play well

1892
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: enough and all that, but they did something that they're

1893
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to do during the regular season at some point,

1894
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: and they displayed at the bottom of the roster of

1895
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills displayed it, and so did the top

1896
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: of the roster, who weren't even on the field. It

1897
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: was something that is going to serve them well in

1898
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: a long, hard, bumpy season, and it was really really

1899
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: on full display last night and the last part of

1900
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Speaker 1: that game. We'll talk more about that game. We'll talk

1901
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: more about the Bills quarterback depth chart with our guests

1902
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: next hour. Than Brown, sports director at w ro OCTV

1903
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: in Rochester, sidelined reporter on the Bills Television Network. He

1904
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: worked with Steve and Andrew Catalan yesterday. Dad Brown going

1905
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: to join this next hour plus your phone calls, more

1906
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: discussion about the quarterback depth chart, possible cuts. We still

1907
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: got to get to what we liked and didn't like,

1908
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: what we did not like about the preseason that's coming up.

1909
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 1: That's coming up in the final hour of the show.

1910
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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills

1911
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Speaker 1: Radiofalo Bills Radio Network Sports Dates. You're gonna be an

1912
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Speaker 1: eventful a couple of days here in One Bills Drive.

1913
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Speaker 1: Coming off last night's preseason winn in Chicago, the Bills,

1914
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 1: with twenty five points in the fourth quarter, came from

1915
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: behind to beat the Bears twenty eight twenty seven fourth

1916
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: and final preseason game for Buffalo AJ McCarron played the

1917
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: entire game, led the Bills downfield for the goal ahead

1918
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Speaker 1: touchdown pass with thirteen seconds left. So the Bills finished

1919
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: a preseason with two wins two losses. Now it's on

1920
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Speaker 1: to the cuts. Bills have to remove thirty four names

1921
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Speaker 1: from the roster to get to the mandated fifty three

1922
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: man limit by four pm tomorrow. Last night, GM Brandon

1923
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: Bean said the Bills will make their roster decisions today

1924
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: meet with players being let go, likely to announce the

1925
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: cuts tomorrow before four pm. Well, it's gonna watch the

1926
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: waiver wire to see if any other teams cut players

1927
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: that they are interested in. Its last year put in

1928
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: claims for four players who were waved. Wound up with

1929
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: three of those four on the roster. Around the NFL,

1930
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: the Rams and Aaron Donald have reportedly finalized a record

1931
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: six year, one hundred thirty five million dollar deal and

1932
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: includes eighty seven million guaranteed. So Aaron Donald is the

1933
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: richest defensive player in NFL history, tied to la now

1934
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: for seven years, and he will be ready for Monday

1935
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: night football. They're opener against the Raiders. Now there's Khalil Mack,

1936
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 1: who has not said much about his hold out, but

1937
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: yesterday Mac just issued a statement that said, I miss

1938
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: it talking about football. The Raiders pass rusher. It's still

1939
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: been holding out looking for the Raiders to give him

1940
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: a new contract. The calls for illegal helmet hits are

1941
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: down sixty percent in the last two games of preseason.

1942
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 1: They were up in the first thirty three games of

1943
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: preseason fifty one illegal helmet hit calls, down to less

1944
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 1: than half of that in the last two games. Baseball,

1945
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: the Yankees have agreed to a trade with the Giants

1946
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: for veteran outfielder Andrew McCutcheon. And college football is underway

1947
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: this weekend. You Be Bulls host Delaware State tomorrow night,

1948
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: six pm at ub Stadium, the second ever meeting all

1949
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: time between these two. You'll be with fourteen starters from

1950
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: a year ago, eight of them on offense. And Syracuse

1951
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: Football kicks off tonight. They opened at Western Michigan. It's

1952
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 1: a six pm kickoff tonight. It's televised on the CBS

1953
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Sports Network. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live from

1954
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Hey, Steve, did I kind of zipped

1955
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:29,600
Speaker 1: through it about the helmet hits? It is significant penalties

1956
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: remained at a lower level in Week four. Now Week

1957
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: four is over. Obviously, last night, officials through eleven flags.

1958
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: There was one in the Buffalo game. Eleven fat flags

1959
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: were illegally lowering their helmets into opponents during last night's

1960
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: finales nine. In Week three preseason games, the NFL had

1961
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: a sixty percent reduction in penalties after the Competition Committee

1962
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,560
Speaker 1: said on August twenty second they would not change it.

1963
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,879
Speaker 1: They did say on August twenty second, inadvertent or incidental

1964
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: contact with a helmet is not a foul. First thirty

1965
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: three games of preseason they called the foul fifty one times,

1966
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 1: one point five five per game. In the final thirty

1967
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: two games, twenty calls an average a point six two five.

1968
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, they didn't call it. They changed it saying

1969
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 1: they would not. It's not a penalty for inadvertent or

1970
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:15,799
Speaker 1: incidental contact. And like most things that happened in the NFL,

1971
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, it was an issue and people are on

1972
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,600
Speaker 1: fire and this is going to ruin the game, and

1973
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: it didn't, and in fact, they figured out how to

1974
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: do it. Players did a little bit. I still think

1975
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: there's some work to do on that, and officials figured out,

1976
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: the league figured out how to call it, how to

1977
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: minimize the impact of that rule. Here's my point. The

1978
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: intent is great, you know, minimize helmet hits. Maybe take

1979
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: the helmet out of the game. I love that, And

1980
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: who would argue against it. You have to be in

1981
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: Neanderthal to say, oh, I don't care about helmet hits. No,

1982
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: you should care about helmet hits. The intent is great.

1983
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: It will I think, as you see the numbers gone

1984
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: down sixty percent in the final two weeks preseason. I

1985
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: think they'll get to a point where we all know

1986
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: what it'll be and what's called. And by all of us,

1987
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean players, coaches, and fans. I think will approach

1988
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: that point at some point, probably this year. Yeah, and

1989
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: the Cynics always say, yeah, they always call in the preseason,

1990
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: they overcall it. Well, they did overcall it. In the

1991
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 1: first couple of games. They had fifty one calls and

1992
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: forty of them were correct. Forty of them. Well, so

1993
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: if they just called the ones that were correct, that's

1994
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: twenty a weekend, you know, And that's that's a little

1995
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: bit more than even now. Now it's cut that in half.

1996
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: So you're right, I think they are getting it right,

1997
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: and I don't buy the fact. Listen, I've talked to

1998
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 1: these officials and I know how they think about these games,

1999
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: and certainly there's a point of emphasis and sometimes you

2000
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: get a bump in that kind of stuff. But I'm

2001
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: telling you right now, they're trying to get it right.

2002
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 1: They're trying to practice it right, they're trying to call

2003
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: it correctly. They're trying to do it consistently there. And

2004
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: it's not like the league is saying, hey, call this

2005
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 1: a bunch. They're not doing that. They're saying, this is

2006
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: a new rule, and you got to get used to

2007
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: calling it. And there's no doubt too. And I think

2008
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: the frustrating thing for some people is you see it happen,

2009
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: and when it's not called where you think, well, why

2010
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: isn't that called in this one is? And sometimes it's

2011
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: just the fact that the officials eyes are focused someplace

2012
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: else or for and the same reason they don't call

2013
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: holding whenever it happened. So I think they are getting

2014
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: better at it. They're going to continue to get better

2015
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 1: at it, and I think so far, I mean, it's

2016
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: far from the catastrophic results that people were saying. The

2017
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: call last night I can't remember who it was on

2018
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 1: on the bills, but it was right. They got it right. Yeah,

2019
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: who wasn't We just thought we just saw it was.

2020
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Speaker 1: It wasn't Raphael Bush. Was it was. Here's the Saron

2021
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 1: Neil Yeah, yeah, yeah, the rookie. Yeah. So you got

2022
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: it right, and here it Yeah, he's the second guy

2023
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 1: in right there, Lowris's helmet initiates contact. And especially and

2024
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 1: this was said too when the rule fers came in.

2025
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 1: If you got a guy, a player, an offensive player

2026
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 1: who's surrounded by defenders and they have them kind of

2027
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: collared in, a couple of them around him, and one

2028
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: guy comes in and Lowrids's helmet, that's when they really

2029
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: want to call it. They want to avoid that kind

2030
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 1: of hit Lauren and the helmet when a guy is

2031
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: just about ready to go down. That's almost exactly what

2032
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 1: happened with sarroond Neil last night, right and this is

2033
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,839
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott had a long conversation with the officiating

2034
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 1: crew about what are they doing? And then he didn't

2035
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 1: either didn't see it or didn't like the call for

2036
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: some other reason, thought that Siron Neil had his head

2037
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: turned or his head up or whatever. But I thought

2038
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: it was a good call when it happened, and and

2039
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: just I thought the officiating crew, and I'm trying to

2040
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: think now, I hadn't really thought about it. I thought

2041
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: they did a really nice job last night. What do

2042
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 1: you think what was the penalty? Well, I don't know.

2043
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 1: Did you see when the first half when Sean mcdermock

2044
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: got all worked up about a call. I can't remember

2045
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: what it was about now, but he marched out on

2046
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 1: the field. They had escort him back. You remember this,

2047
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: I thought that was when that was. That was in

2048
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: the first half. That was second half, I think, yeah, Sir,

2049
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Neil wasn't the second I can't remember what the call was,

2050
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: but Sean was. We had a chance. I didn't have

2051
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him a post game. I'd

2052
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: like to figure out what he was arguing about. Hey,

2053
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: we want to discuss with you, and not argue, but

2054
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: discuss the Bill's quarterback situation. We've been doing it for months.

2055
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Why stop now? Cutdowns coming? And of course the game

2056
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: is coming now nine days away from the season opener.

2057
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: So what did your quarterback depth chart look like for

2058
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills? Now, I mentioned that before training camp.

2059
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,799
Speaker 1: I would have put him, mccarroen, Josh Allen, Nathan Peterman.

2060
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 1: Now after four preseason games preseason games, my quarterback depth

2061
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: chart would look like Peterman, Josh Allen, A J. McCarron.

2062
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 1: But what do you think it was? It called eight

2063
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: three fifty toll free one eight eight by fifty two

2064
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: found and a larger Since we're talking to about a

2065
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: lot of times in the quarter and the Bills did

2066
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: it last year only cut two quarterbacks. I think he

2067
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 1: keep three this year, I really do. I think they

2068
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 1: should keep three. I think Adrian McCarron played well enough

2069
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: to make this roster. I don't think he played as

2070
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: well as Nate Peterman, because that's I'm with you. I

2071
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: think Nate Peterman should be the game one starter, and

2072
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen gives him more physically as a backup. So

2073
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I think you keep three quarterbacks.

2074
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: I put Peterman in to start the season. He was

2075
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: very consistent, has the right mentality for it, and I

2076
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: think they move on from there. But we'll have to

2077
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 1: wait and see. These final cuts are going to be

2078
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: really interesting, not only at the quarterback position obviously, but

2079
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: man man everywhere across the roster. Yeah, we got all

2080
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 1: the information coming up tomorrow on the website Buffalo bills

2081
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: dot com about cutdown day what it means. A call

2082
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 1: here from Van and Brooklyn about the quarterback depth chart. Van,

2083
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with this. Hey, what's

2084
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 1: going on? Guys? How are you doing? Good? Man? Hey? Um? I,

2085
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 1: like I've always said, I've always made false Steve guys

2086
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: over the last probably three four months about a J

2087
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 1: McCarn so that maybe maybe a little bit biased here,

2088
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 1: but I think last night's game, the way how he played,

2089
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: that's what I want in a starter. What did you

2090
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: give his first three quarters? Man? Well, I mean he

2091
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 1: played bad, but so did everybody else. But you gotta admit,

2092
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, the way how he finished the game. He

2093
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: rallied everybody around them and they got the job done,

2094
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Speaker 1: even though the meaningless game. That's what I would want

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01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: to see game my starter. Josh Allen last week he

2096
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: didn't do so great, but that was expected. You know,

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01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 1: he was a rookie. I didn't think that he was

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01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: going to start anyway, but that just goes to show

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01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: you that he's not ready. Peterman has played the same

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01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 1: way how he played last year in the preseason. I mean,

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01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: we all know when we saw him in a season game.

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01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: The first game, he threw five int septions in one half.

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01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: I admit, not all of them with this fault, but

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01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 1: it is what it is. The second game he didn't

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01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,799
Speaker 1: finish him. AJ has four career starts and the playoffs starts.

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01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, just by off of pedigree alone, two national championships.

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01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I could go on and on him about

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01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 1: a J. McKinnon. I think he's earned the right even

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01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 1: though he hasn't played that well. And remember, you gotta

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01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 1: think about it like this. The offensive line is not

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01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: that great. The wide receivers are not creating much separation.

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01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you only have one true number one, and

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01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Kelvin Benjaminton is a number one. I

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01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: think he's a number two receiver at BET. So if

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01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 1: you put some talent, some talent why receivers, and you know,

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01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: just try to do the best you can with the

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01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,959
Speaker 1: offensive line, I think you go with a J. McCarry

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01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: on this point. Well here's the thing, though, I mean, Van,

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01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate the points and I agree with some, not all,

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01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: of what you said, but you're not putting anybody any

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01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: talent around them other than what you've got on this roster.

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01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: At some point, I mean, you're gonna, in fact, you're

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01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: putting less talent around because you're cutting about thirty four

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01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: guys today. So it's not like they're gonna transform the

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01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: guys around this quarterback and all of a sudden, Aj

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01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: or Nate or Josh are gonna all of a sudden

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01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: be world beaters because they're gonna transform the offensive talent

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01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: around them. The offense is what it is that the

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01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna play are the guys that are

2130
01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: there now. So I don't see you gotta put the

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01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: quarterback in who's gonna give you the best chance to

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01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: win with the guys on the team. Now, you can

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01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: say that they need to put an offensive line in

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01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: front of him, get better at wide receiver. That's too late,

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01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,560
Speaker 1: it's too late. You are what you are. You gotta go.

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01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: You gotta play ten days. You got a game against

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01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. You can't go out and find some

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01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: other players. These are the guys, So you gotta go

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01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 1: with what you got now. And this is twenty eighteen

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01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 1: and the regular season is right now, and so you're

2141
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 1: not gonna get better. You're not gonna get better. You're

2142
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: you are what you are. You can play as good

2143
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: as you can play, and you gotta turn these guys loose.

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01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: So you know. I And the one interesting thing you

2145
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: did say that we saw Nathan Peterman play this good

2146
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 1: in last year's preseason and it didn't go so well

2147
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 1: for him and as a couple in his first start.

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01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 1: I think Nathan Peterman' is a different guy now. I

2149
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 1: think he's a different guy. I think the coaches see it.

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01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I think his teammates see it. And he's been through

2151
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: that spot where we had where Bill parcels he says

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01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: the thing. He says, Listen, you gotta go out, and

2153
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: a guy like Nathan Peterman goes out and throws five

2154
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: interceptions in a game, he goes back out and the

2155
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: team gets beat largely because of the way he played

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01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: in that first half. If he's the starter, he's gonna

2157
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: got to climb back in that huddle on Wednesday and say, guys,

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01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get better and we're gonna win. We're gonna

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01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: do it together. I'm gonna I promise you I won't

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01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: do that again. I'm gonna get better. Let's go. He's

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01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: got to win the team back. He's got to stick

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01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: his head in the huddle and say, guys, I'm still

2163
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna play hard for you. You can still count on me,

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01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be better. And Nathan Peterman has done that.

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Speaker 1: He's won this team's respect back after being as bad

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01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 1: as a quarterback could possibly be in his first start

2167
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 1: ever in the NFL last year, he has won their

2168
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: trust back. So don't think just because you saw him

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01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: played good in the preseason last year and it turned

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01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 1: to catastrophe his first start, that it's going to do

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01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 1: that again. I was just thinking, next time we get

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01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman on let's assume he is the starter on

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01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 1: opening day, we should either play or discuss with him

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01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 1: that Bill Parks sales quote. You know, I wonder if

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01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 1: Nathan ever had that conversation with his teammates. So he

2176
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: has the horrible start at the Chargers, doesn't play again

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01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: until what early December against the Colts. I wonder if

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01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: that week he either quietly or maybe stood up and said, hey,

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01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy I was back in mid November.

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01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 1: It's interesting because you got to do it yeah, he

2181
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: did it. He accomplished it right now. He played okay

2182
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: against the Colts that day in a terrible weather. Can

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01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 1: did Yeah, Well, next time we get Nathan, I will discuss. Listen,

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01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: I know not everybody does well, Murph and I do

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01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: with our days during training camp, we listened to Sean

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01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,719
Speaker 1: McDermott every day. We hear the questions about all the quarterbacks,

2187
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: We hear him respond to it. We see his face

2188
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: when he replies to the questions about each player. And

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01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you could have gone through that. And

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01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: watch Sean McDermott go through training camp and the OTA's

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01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 1: and all the press scrums that are around him after

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01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: every practice and hear him talk about Nathan Peterman and

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01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: believe that Nathan Peterman hasn't won him over and earned

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01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: his respect back after the start to get it, because listen,

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01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,719
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott threw a lot of faith on Nathan Peterman

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01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 1: last year when he put him in against the Chargers.

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01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 1: He you can say he rolled the dice, yeah, but

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01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 1: he gave Nathan Peterman a big vote of confidence and

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01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: gave him an enormous opportunity and it did not go well, right,

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01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: And Sean took the brunt of the criticis and Sean said, yeah, yeah, so,

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01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: And nationally McDermott took a lot of heat for that decision,

2202
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: a ton of heat from around the country. And yet

2203
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: here we sit on the verge of a new season

2204
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: and it looks like Sean McDermott may give Nathan Peterman

2205
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: the exact same opportunity. That's how far Nathan Peterman has come.

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01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 1: He earned it back. I mean, that's that says something

2207
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: about both guys. Your quarterback depth chart for the Bills,

2208
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: what does it look like today? Let's go to a

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01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: Justin in Syracuse. Hello, Justin, Welcome, you're on the air

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01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: with us. Hey, what's going on? Guys? How much I

2211
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: really like when I saw him last night. I know

2212
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 1: it's just the preseason, you know, and I get him mortional,

2213
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: like Steve, I just I want our team to win.

2214
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: If it's a j if it's if it's a Peterman, Alan,

2215
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 1: whoever it is, you don't she was getting slam last

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01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: night on social media and it was getting it was

2217
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 1: getting real, real hard to see it. You know, It's like,

2218
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: why do you want why do you look at social media?

2219
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 1: Why don't you watching the game. I was, I was

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01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 1: watching it, and I was I was live on Facebook,

2221
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 1: you know, and I was just like, you can't slam

2222
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 1: this kid, you know. It's just like, yeah, I heard

2223
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: just saying Justin's funny. We had this conversation. Do you

2224
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: recall at one thirty two in the morning on the

2225
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 1: plane last night and I said something that long time,

2226
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand why people watching the football game and

2227
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: then follow Twitter and tweet and look for what Twitter

2228
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: seeing about the game? Are you watching the game or not?

2229
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 1: Do you care what somebody's opinion is as the game

2230
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: goes on afterwards? A different story? I don't know. You

2231
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,600
Speaker 1: do that. I don't do that. I want it for

2232
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: my own opinions, no matter if it's Bilser whoever, you know,

2233
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: whoever I'm watching. I don't want to care what does

2234
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 1: he say about that play, that third down call? What

2235
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: does he say about that Zeck? What' fallow us that?

2236
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: Who gives a darn right? Right? I understand that. Again,

2237
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm the you know, the old man here, and I get,

2238
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, I get the people's attraction to Twitter. But

2239
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't get that Steve. Do you do you should?

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01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: You shouldn't get it, you shouldn't and for good reason.

2241
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing that we had in in

2242
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: New York this this last week. On Monday, I was

2243
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: sitting in a room with some pretty prominent broadcasters in

2244
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:39,560
Speaker 1: the industry, and maybe maybe the top guy anywhere in

2245
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: this day and age stood up and said a few

2246
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,719
Speaker 1: words to us as announcers. Jim Jim Nance Jim stood

2247
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: up and say friends, First, yes, he'd hit as a joke. No,

2248
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: he did that. The next day he stood up and said, listen,

2249
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, guys. I and he says,

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01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't have a social media presence. He goes, and

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01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: I think he should remind yourselves and you and you're

2252
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 1: you fall into this cat glory tumor. If you've trained

2253
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 1: your lives and spent your adult lives getting into this

2254
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 1: broadcast business. You're here because it's a great opportunity. You're

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01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 1: working for CBS Sports, And don't belittle yourself by sitting

2256
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 1: there worried about what social media has say about how

2257
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: you do your job. You're here because you do your

2258
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 1: job better than anybody. Thousands of people would love to

2259
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: do what we're doing for CBS. Don't let your the

2260
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 1: way you do your job be affected by what some

2261
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 1: personless voice says on social media. Put your phone down

2262
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: for the window that you're doing the three hours of

2263
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 1: that game. There's no reason why any voice should matter

2264
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 1: except the one that you've been trained to say. And

2265
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. Yeah, he's Jim's great. I mean,

2266
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 1: he's a good friend and he is who he seems

2267
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 1: to be. He is the best guy ever and that's

2268
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: why he's so good at what he does, because it

2269
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 1: flows from him. So he stood up and said that.

2270
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: And you know, so when you got these fans and

2271
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 1: you're the same way. You've been doing this for a

2272
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 1: long time, and you're a veteran radio personality and I've

2273
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 1: been doing radio and broadcast longer than I played football.

2274
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: It's you're trained. It's wrong I think sometimes for us

2275
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: to get caught up in what some voice voice from

2276
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: wherever chimes in and said. So you tryd to have

2277
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 1: to ignore it. Now. I do go back after the

2278
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: game because sometimes, you know, we get a couple of

2279
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 1: people here, We have some regular people who tweet at us,

2280
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: and sometimes they're very well thought out. We thought and

2281
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,759
Speaker 1: I've always said and you've heard me say it, Twitter

2282
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 1: is the vomit of society. If you there might be

2283
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: some diamonds in there, but you've really got to dig

2284
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: through some bile to find it. And there is there's

2285
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 1: some good stuff out there, but you know, you got

2286
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: to tweet through the anger and the snark and the

2287
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: and the selfishness and the and the and all the

2288
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 1: stuff to get it. So I wait till after the

2289
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 1: game to do that. Yeah, And to his point, the

2290
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: caller from Syracuse right was a jam scuse. People have opinion,

2291
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 1: but who cares what they say during the course of

2292
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: the game. Oh a J mccaren is getting ripped on

2293
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,639
Speaker 1: Twitter during the game. Okay, did those people stick around

2294
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and watch how that went. I mean,

2295
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: we can at least wait until the game's over to react.

2296
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: The game is. The game is the thing. It's not

2297
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 1: the Twitter reaction. The game is what counts, not what

2298
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 1: people are saying on Twitter. Yet, Twitter is like a

2299
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 1: stadium without being at the game, because you know in

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Speaker 1: the stadium, you're there and you're sitting around with the

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01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 1: people in the seats. Next year, you can talk to

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01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 1: them and you can hear their opinions, whether you like

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01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 1: it or not. You know, that's kind of what it

2304
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 1: is to be in the stadium, but you can also

2305
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 1: you also have you're stuck watching, you can't escape, so

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01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: you're in it together and I think there's something to

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01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 1: be said for that. And I'm totally with you, Murph.

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01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm you know, you gotta wait and let it, let it,

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Speaker 1: see what happens. For you see what happened. Don't need

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Speaker 1: instant reaction. Hey, um, Dad Brown going to join us

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01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour. We've been putting this

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01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: off steam. We got to get to a preseason is

2313
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: over and I know the way this goes. But next

2314
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 1: Monday we'll talk about the cutdown day, but we'll also

2315
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: start looking at Baltimore. So we to take a few

2316
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: minutes here to kind of recap preseason, what we liked

2317
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 1: about preseason, maybe what we didn't like about preseason. There

2318
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: was issues on both sides, good things and bad things.

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01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 1: So Steve and I are going to talk about what

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01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 1: we liked in the Bill's preseason, which is what four

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01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: weeks old, four games and they've been in camping now

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01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 1: for about five or six weeks. Well, I want you

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01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: to start because it's kind of how we started the show.

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01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 1: What did you like most of all? Now that the

2325
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 1: preseason is over, what did you like about the bill?

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01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:27,800
Speaker 1: I think what I really liked there was a couple

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01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 1: of there's a couple of aspects and they're kind of

2328
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 1: the same thing. I like that because it's on my mind.

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01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,480
Speaker 1: I love that culture that we saw last night emerge

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01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of a bad football game that

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01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: gave him a win and and co And also hand

2332
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: in hand with that is the training camp that we

2333
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 1: were at every day. It was buttoned up, in disciplined.

2334
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 1: It was work, it was it was on point. It

2335
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: was almost like military academy in its focus. I mean,

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01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of really strong, confident young guys

2337
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: and veteran players who were on it. Every minute they

2338
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 1: were buttoned up. It was fun, they were enjoying what

2339
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: they were doing, but it was business like and it

2340
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: was there was no frivolity over there. Everything was done

2341
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 1: with the purpose. Even the fun they had was team

2342
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: building and that kind of thing. And on the field,

2343
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 1: off the field, to and from meetings, in all their interactions.

2344
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:27,640
Speaker 1: That was a team that was on a mission and

2345
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 1: they were serious about it, and that was that was

2346
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. To me. You mentioned this too, about the culture,

2347
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: and I wrote a piece on our website a couple

2348
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and that this is one of the issues.

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01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: The culture is real. People will scoff at and say,

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01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: whatever culture you need players, you need to need players,

2351
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: but you need good team culture and good team chemistry.

2352
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 1: They have it here and you saw it last night

2353
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 1: in a meaningless preseason game. But it was evident that

2354
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 1: that culture that they have on this roster means something.

2355
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: It's it's the Sean McDermott culture. And it's real, right,

2356
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 1: It's tangible. It is tangible. Yeah, it is real. And

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01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: I think, now this doesn't guarantee any wins or losses

2358
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 1: or anything from what I'm about to say, but I

2359
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: think this is a more talented roster than they're in

2360
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: the coming into the beginning of the season than I

2361
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 1: had a year ago. I don't know if that's gonna

2362
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: all the mix of the better talent is gonna turn

2363
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 1: into more games, more wins, or less wins, maybe even

2364
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: because that's the way the lague is. But I do

2365
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: think this is a team that given what happened to

2366
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: him last night, you remember, now, all of a sudden,

2367
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 1: what it feels like when you've got a football team

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01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: that overachieves every week, and when you've got a more

2369
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: talented team that continues to overachieve, you're going to get

2370
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 1: better results. And that's kind of that's the dot on

2371
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 1: the horizon that I look for. Hey, there's another thing

2372
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: we liked, and Steve and I discussed this before the

2373
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 1: show today, what we like about this preseason. We talked

2374
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: a little bit with the great go Sell about it.

2375
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 1: It looks like they're gonna get the impact from this

2376
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: sho's draft, from this sho's draft picks. And let's put

2377
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen aside. He may or may not play. When

2378
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 1: he plays, we don't know obviously, but Kremy and Edmunds

2379
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 1: is gonna play, gonna start, and based on his kind

2380
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 1: of week to week improven in the preseason, I think

2381
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: he's going to be an impact player. Karen Johnson, fourth

2382
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 1: round pick, is gonna play. Most likely, you're gonna be

2383
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: your nickel corner. He'll be out there a lot, He'll

2384
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 1: have ups and downs, but he are going to get

2385
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 1: benefit out of the fourth round pick. Harrison Phillips, the

2386
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: third rounder, is gonna play and gonna play a lot.

2387
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna play a lot. I anticipate Kyle Williams will

2388
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,839
Speaker 1: be back for the opener against Baltimore, but Harrison Phillips

2389
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 1: is gonna have a regular part of the rotation on

2390
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 1: that defensive line. They may get Wyatt Teller in there.

2391
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 1: A ton of snaps for him last night. I don't

2392
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a starter in Week one, but

2393
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: they may get him in there to see a lot

2394
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 1: of action. The point is the draft picks have already

2395
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 1: demonstrated this year's draft picks that they will have something

2396
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 1: to say about how twenty eighteen goes. And that's a

2397
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 1: positive I think, I think, no question about it. And

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01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 1: they've continued to get bring in the type of players

2399
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 1: and you say, well, culture is great, but you really

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01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 1: need great players. Well, they've really made a concerted effort

2401
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 1: to bring in great players who perfect fit their culture

2402
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: and their scheme, and all those things add up to

2403
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: getting more out of the roster than just the overall talent.

2404
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 1: Would indicate that they're going to be able to get

2405
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 1: much like we saw last year, when we've said it

2406
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 1: a thousand times over this offseason, a team that went

2407
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: from being accused of tanking the season. Last year at

2408
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 1: this time during the next two weeks a year ago,

2409
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 1: the Bills traded Sammy Watkins Ron Darby, all those trades happened,

2410
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: and everything their tanking, and they end up at the

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01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: end of the season in the playoffs down in Jacksonville.

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 1: That kind of overachievement is what you kind of project

2413
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 1: onto this roster. And with that kind of projection, you

2414
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: do see a good season ahead, but there's you know,

2415
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 1: but you gotta do something you can't count on you got.

2416
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta get there by counting on something that's

2417
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 1: not really tangible, and that is the culture and the

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01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: field and the chemistry and their ability to overachieve what

2419
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: we liked, what we didn't like among the things. I

2420
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 1: don't know if this is criticism, but I don't feel

2421
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 1: like I have a real good handle on the free

2422
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: agent signings and how much of a factor they might be.

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01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Trent Murphy who barely played if

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01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 1: at all, in preseason. Star Lotula did not get a

2425
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 1: ton of snaps. Vonte Davis had some kind of concerning

2426
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 1: moments during the during the course of the preseason games.

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01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't feel like we have a good I don't

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01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: think I've seen enough from the free agent signings that's

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01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 1: really particularly Trent Murphy. I mean, he didn't take a

2430
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: single snap during the regular during the preseason games, he

2431
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 1: didn't take very many snaps at training camp, star Lotulelee.

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01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff and the vibe I get

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01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 1: is that he was playing exactly the way they wanted

2434
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 1: him to play, So they just put him aside and

2435
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 1: said do not you know, do not get a shaving cut,

2436
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, don't even don't even get a hangnail. We

2437
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 1: want you for the opener. Kyle Williams took some snaps,

2438
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 1: got rolled up, and now he's he's he put hit

2439
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: in the start of his season in Jeopardy. So but

2440
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: you're right, I think the free agent signings, particularly Vonte Davis,

2441
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 1: who's the one we got the most, the most exposure too.

2442
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: In his play, it did give you some concern. He

2443
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 1: didn't look like he was comfortable in that scheme. You know,

2444
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of tackles, so he kind of

2445
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 1: showed up in a way that wasn't that flattering. So

2446
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: there there's some a reason to think that maybe the

2447
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 1: free agent signings on the team, you know, aren't going

2448
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: to help as much as we had hoped they would.

2449
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 1: We'll see. The other thing that was not great was

2450
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: offensive production in general. They come out of preseason four

2451
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: games averaging about twenty points per game, which is not

2452
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot. I think it's more than the average last year, however,

2453
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 1: but it's just you know, there and again, it's so

2454
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 1: hard in preseason see any cohesion and who's playing with,

2455
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:42,520
Speaker 1: who who are you playing against? But it never felt

2456
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 1: other than the first three the first half of the

2457
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 1: Carolina game, when we saw all those different offensive formations

2458
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 1: and a great pace. Other than that stretch, there wasn't

2459
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 1: a whole lot to like about the Buffalo offense. And

2460
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 1: of course fourth quarter last night when it was you know,

2461
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 1: it was pick up basketball game, right right. But I

2462
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 1: don't know if I've put that his evidence of what

2463
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: we might expect. I will say I really like the

2464
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 1: way they played offense early on against Carolina, but since then,

2465
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot to like offensively. Yeah, he's

2466
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 1: that kind of have to wait and see, and you

2467
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 1: know that they're going to try and unfurl everything defensively

2468
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 1: and offensively, both schematically and with their personnel and with

2469
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 1: their plans, with their skill sets. So putting a game

2470
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:22,400
Speaker 1: plan is going to change everything. But then again, you're

2471
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: gonna go against the number ones of the Baltimore Ravens

2472
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 1: and they're going to be doing the same thing. Yeah,

2473
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: what we liked, what we didn't like, and we'll take

2474
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 1: calls on that. We'll take calls on the quarterback depth chart.

2475
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:31,760
Speaker 1: What do you think it should look like? What does

2476
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 1: yours look like? For the Bills. We hope to hear

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Speaker 1: from Fed Brown from w r OCTV and Rochester in

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02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 1: the next couple of minutes. He's just coming off the

2479
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 1: sidelines from last night's telecast. So I've got a lot

2480
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 1: of time here to talk about the Bills in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: was there last night. He is sports director at w

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Speaker 1: ro OCTV and Rochester sideline reporter last night on the

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Speaker 1: Tasker and Andrew Canlan. Happy to have Fed Brown on

2495
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 1: the air of this again. Hi, Fed, Thanks for coming on.

2496
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:46,800
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, My pleasures always. Um we started our

2497
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:50,280
Speaker 1: show today. You were probably busy doing something talking about

2498
02:01:50,480 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: what that game meant, what that win meant a lot

2499
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:55,760
Speaker 1: of people. I know it's preseason, Fed, don't jump me here,

2500
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 1: but we I think I'm gonna speak for Steve here.

2501
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 1: I think we agree that there was something about the

2502
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:02,920
Speaker 1: way they came back and won that game that says

2503
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot about the type of team, the type of

2504
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 1: players that Sean McDermott has assembled. Here, you agree, disagree?

2505
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 1: What do you think? No? I totally one hundred percent agree.

2506
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:13,440
Speaker 1: I mean that was a game where I think on

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02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 1: the flight back to Buffalo, no one had a bigger

2508
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 1: smile than Sean McDermott because this was a team. You know,

2509
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 1: in a game that meant nothing for a lot of

2510
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 1: guys who probably won't be in the NFL come tomorrow afternoon,

2511
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 1: they still found a way to fight. And I was

2512
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 1: especially impressed by a J. McCarron. You know, again, this

2513
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 1: is a guy who easily could have packed it in.

2514
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 1: He came to Buffalo hoping to move up on a

2515
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: depth chart from second to first. It's probably not gonna happen.

2516
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,560
Speaker 1: I think he has a good idea of that. Certainly,

2517
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 1: the way the first three quarters or so it went

2518
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 1: that he probably felt like it wasn't gonna happen in Buffalo,

2519
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 1: and yet he still found a way to fight and

2520
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: try and you know, not only get a win for

2521
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 1: the team, but you know, he talked about it after

2522
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 1: the game. He wanted to give the other guys on

2523
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 1: the team they were playing with him a chance to

2524
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 1: put up from good film and to me that that

2525
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: talks about culture, That talks about coaching, and look, it's

2526
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: not gonna You're not gonna look back if they make

2527
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs this season and think, oh it started, you know,

2528
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 1: that night in Chicago. But it just shows what what

2529
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 1: it is like to be a part of this Buffalo

2530
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 1: Bills team. How much these guys care and how much

2531
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 1: these guys have responded to what Brandon being and more

2532
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 1: specifically Sean McDermott have wanted to instill, you know, in

2533
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: this locker room, in this organization. Yeah, one of the

2534
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 1: things that that jumps out at is the camaraderie around

2535
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: the football team, in the atmosphere on the sidelines. What

2536
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:24,720
Speaker 1: are the things did jumped out to you? I mean,

2537
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 1: you worked all in the three preseason games with me,

2538
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 1: what what what else jumped out at you about this roster?

2539
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 1: And maybe some of the players or coaches, Well, I

2540
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 1: think I do. I do want to talk about the

2541
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: sideline stuff for a minute, because you know, down there

2542
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:41,960
Speaker 1: watching this this comeback on full last night, I was

2543
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 1: impressed by the way everybody was involved. When Levi Wallace

2544
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: had that play that forced the incompletion with the Bills

2545
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: down five to set up the final drive, they had

2546
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 1: the replay review for a little while, and Jerry Hughes,

2547
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, not gonna play in the game, never never

2548
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 1: had a sniff of playing in that game last night,

2549
02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 1: He's the guy on the sideline work in the rest

2550
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:02,560
Speaker 1: saying that that was incomplete, right, what's what's the call

2551
02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna be? I mean, this guy, you know, generally you'd

2552
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,840
Speaker 1: think a guy like that would be counting the seconds

2553
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 1: to get onto the airplane, to get on the bus.

2554
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:11,400
Speaker 1: But he was right there, dialed in, and the whole

2555
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 1: team was like that. They were on the last touchdown drive.

2556
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 1: They're you know, bouncing on their toes, you know, living

2557
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 1: and dining with every play, and you could tell there

2558
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 1: was going to be an explosion if and when the

2559
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 1: Bills got in the end zone. End there was so

2560
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:26,360
Speaker 1: I just want to I was so impressed. It was

2561
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:28,600
Speaker 1: so much fun um. But in terms of, you know,

2562
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:30,400
Speaker 1: the roster, I think the first thing that has to

2563
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 1: jump out at you from this preseason is I knew

2564
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had arm talent put boys. Seeing anything up

2565
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 1: close was a whole nother ball all action. I mean,

2566
02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 1: it's it's not just the fact that he can go

2567
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 1: eighty yards downfield. It's the fact that he can throw

2568
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 1: fifteen yard ers and squeeze it between defenders in a

2569
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: way that I've never seen a Bill's quarterback do in

2570
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:50,880
Speaker 1: the twenty years I've covered the team. So, I mean,

2571
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 1: the things that jump out of you, you gotta start

2572
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:56,200
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen's arm for sure. Um, we are in

2573
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 1: cutdown weekend as far as we know, there may be discussions.

2574
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 1: While there will be discussions today, they may let players

2575
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 1: know tonight, and of course by four pm tomorrow than

2576
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to announce their cuts. Where do you

2577
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 1: think the most difficult decisions will be for Brandon Bean

2578
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott as they cut this roster to fifty three.

2579
02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:15,960
Speaker 1: I think wide receiver is a tough one, not necessarily

2580
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: because his team is super talented, but I think there

2581
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 1: have been enough bottom of the roster receivers who you

2582
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 1: wonder about. I mean, do you want to keep Rod

2583
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 1: Streeter and his experience? Do you want to keep Ray

2584
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 1: Ray McLeod and his return ability? Do you want to

2585
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:30,400
Speaker 1: keep Brandon Riley, a guy that Sean McDermott has talked

2586
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:32,560
Speaker 1: about as someone who just knows how to how to

2587
02:05:32,600 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 1: get open, how to run routes. You know, I don't

2588
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 1: know which way he goes there. That's certainly a stands

2589
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 1: out as the first problem in terms of figuring out

2590
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,760
Speaker 1: what to do with this roster. I think defensive back,

2591
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, there's a bit of a question mark I

2592
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:48,240
Speaker 1: mean maybe more so at the top with you know,

2593
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:51,400
Speaker 1: Philip Gaines and Vante Davis. What to do as a starter,

2594
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, offensive line too. How many of these guys

2595
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:56,560
Speaker 1: do you want to keep? You know, I kind of

2596
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 1: think that, you know, the Bills might look at this

2597
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 1: group and say, we're going to keep our startings. We're

2598
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna keep the loser of the guy in the center battle,

2599
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna keep one guy beyond that being

2600
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:09,920
Speaker 1: the draft pick. Um wait teller, Thank you. It's been

2601
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: a long weekend. Yeah, So you know, I think, to

2602
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:15,200
Speaker 1: be honest, I think the tougher part of this weekend

2603
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,320
Speaker 1: for the Bills is going to be combing the waiver

2604
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 1: wire trying to find other guys to improve this last

2605
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 1: week because I gotta imagine there's especially the offensive line,

2606
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 1: there are players who are going to be released that

2607
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 1: could help this team depth wise. Um, so that's you know,

2608
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 1: offensive line and wide receiver be the top two for me. Yeah.

2609
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 1: One of the issues with the combing the waiver wires

2610
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: is the fact that their their pick and their waivers

2611
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 1: standing U they're low on the waiver order, there's going

2612
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:40,080
Speaker 1: to be twenty teams ahead of them to get a

2613
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:43,880
Speaker 1: pick over that waiver wire first, and h it's it's

2614
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while before they get down to

2615
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 1: the point where they get some of the first or

2616
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:50,280
Speaker 1: the top notch guys that they really want. And we're

2617
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:53,840
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait and see how that pans out. Yeah,

2618
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 1: for sure. And it's gonna be a different challenge than

2619
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 1: the Bills are used to. I mean, Brandon being talked

2620
02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 1: about it last night on the broadcast that they were

2621
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: a top ten every team last year and that can

2622
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 1: be a big advantage with a GM who's aware like

2623
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:05,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has been, and who knows what's going on

2624
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:08,280
Speaker 1: around the league, and you know, most most gms, I'm

2625
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:10,600
Speaker 1: sure I like that, but Brandon Beans did a good

2626
02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 1: job of taking advantage of it last year. And you know,

2627
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 1: you're right, it's gonna be a little bit more difficult

2628
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: this year, but I still think they're gonna be guys available.

2629
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, we you know, we've seen this offensive line.

2630
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,600
Speaker 1: As much fun as that comeback was last night, the

2631
02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 1: old line last three preseason games had you know, major

2632
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:26,760
Speaker 1: issues all the way through the depth chart. You know,

2633
02:07:26,840 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 1: I gotta imagine that Brandon Bean is all over that

2634
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 1: today and tomorrow. That last question I have for you, Um,

2635
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:35,000
Speaker 1: you've been around camp since it started way back five

2636
02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and of course through all four preseason games.

2637
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 1: How are the Bills different now than they were when

2638
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 1: they went to camp five weeks ago in Rochester? What

2639
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 1: surprised you about the team over the last five weeks individually?

2640
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:47,720
Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy surprised me a little bit. Um, you know,

2641
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure they get anything from the bottom of

2642
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 1: the running back depth chart. They certainly have that now. Um,

2643
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think overall, I think the

2644
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,080
Speaker 1: confidence that they have in the quarterback play not so

2645
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 1: much AJ McCarron, but I think this team feels pretty

2646
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:04,680
Speaker 1: decent about what they have in Josh Allen and Nate Peterman.

2647
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's fair to say, but I've

2648
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 1: the more you talk to these guys, especially about Josh

2649
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 1: Allen and we're really both guys, the more they talk

2650
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 1: about how they are happy to go with either guy.

2651
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 1: You know, if it's Nate Peterman, they talk about the

2652
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,400
Speaker 1: fact that he is unselfish, willing to do whatever it

2653
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 1: takes to win a game, and everybody's been impressed with

2654
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:22,600
Speaker 1: the way Josh Allen has handled, you know, the big

2655
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:25,840
Speaker 1: spotlight of being a first overall pick. So you know,

2656
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: I've wondered if this would be too big for Josh Allen.

2657
02:08:28,720 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't think, for the most part. Has been the

2658
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati game notwithstanding, and I think what the players have

2659
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 1: said about him has backed that up. So, you know,

2660
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:39,600
Speaker 1: going into this season with you know, essentially almost totally

2661
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:43,240
Speaker 1: untested quarterbacks, I think this Bill's team feels pretty good

2662
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:44,840
Speaker 1: about where they're at. You know, it may not be

2663
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:46,440
Speaker 1: a playoff team, but they're going to be happy to

2664
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 1: roll the dice what they got behind center. All right, Hey, Fed,

2665
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:52,120
Speaker 1: Steve and I were comparing notes today. Steve fell asleep

2666
02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:54,760
Speaker 1: at three thirty am. I've fell asleep at four am.

2667
02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:56,959
Speaker 1: You were on the charter head to drive to Rochester.

2668
02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 1: I think you probably got us all beat. What time

2669
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:05,120
Speaker 1: did you only hit the hay? You win? You win.

2670
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 1: That's that's how you that's how you forget fifth round draft.

2671
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 1: That great work on the broadcast. Thank you very much

2672
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 1: for joining us here and we'll be watching. Thanks. Thanks

2673
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 1: a lot, guys, My pleasures always talk to you. Soonded

2674
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 1: Brown Sports, The ref w RO OCTV and Rochester and

2675
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 1: sideline reporter on the Bills Television network. He's right, you know,

2676
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:23,960
Speaker 1: he had the front row seat for the celebration about

2677
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:26,120
Speaker 1: that game when he touchdown last night. He saw that

2678
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 1: as well as anybody. I'm sure r MSG viewers were

2679
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 1: getting in a load of AJ McCarron sitting on the bench.

2680
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 1: One cast Steal, the offensive line coach, came over and

2681
02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 1: sat beside him, and you could tell he was animated,

2682
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:38,640
Speaker 1: just he couldn't even sit still. And then every one

2683
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: by one, maybe fifteen or twenty guys came home. It

2684
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 1: was great to say hello to McCarron. And and the

2685
02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 1: other thing that the Thad Brown told us about and

2686
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 1: one of the things that stuck with him and I

2687
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 1: got to agree with him. M Josh Allen is a

2688
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:55,360
Speaker 1: first pick of the draft talent physically when he throw,

2689
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 1: and I've seen it with other teams that we've seen

2690
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland game, with the Carolina game, and of

2691
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 1: course with the Chicago game. You name the quarterback that

2692
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: was out there on the field, Josh Allen was every

2693
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaker 1: bit the physical specimen anybody. And that goes for Cam

2694
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 1: Newton in the whole nine yards. Josh Allen can sling

2695
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:15,680
Speaker 1: it like very few people can. He has got a

2696
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:20,280
Speaker 1: big arm, he's a big, strong athlete. He is the

2697
02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 1: total package physically, and he's smart and down to earth

2698
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,080
Speaker 1: and has really won the respect of his teammates. So

2699
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:28,760
Speaker 1: I really do think the sky's the limit for him.

2700
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 1: I think he is has made himself and kept the

2701
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:34,879
Speaker 1: value he has this franchise. I don't think he's diminished

2702
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 1: the the excitement over his future at all within the building.

2703
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 1: Within the coaching staff, they see him every day and

2704
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:47,120
Speaker 1: they I think they're very high on him. That doesn't

2705
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 1: mean they want to throw him out on Week one

2706
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:51,280
Speaker 1: against Baltimore or they think that he gives them the

2707
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:53,760
Speaker 1: best chance at this point. But I don't think it's

2708
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:58,640
Speaker 1: far away. I think Josh Allen's physical abilities Wow, just

2709
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 1: push the gas on his development and the timetable for

2710
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:03,480
Speaker 1: him to get on the field. Got a break here,

2711
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more. One Bill's Live from One

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02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:22,600
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Speaker 1: executive producer of NFL Films, on today and we asked

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Speaker 1: him about what he thought about some of the decisions

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Speaker 1: the Bills might make regarding their quarterbacks situation. Here's what

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Speaker 1: he said. I think in this case, to me, it

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Speaker 1: would make sense to keep three. Keep in mind that

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Speaker 1: McCarron has started games in the NFL, and he's actually

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Speaker 1: at times played well. Now, I think when all's said

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Speaker 1: and done, mccaren and Nathan Peterman are probably similar stylistical

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Speaker 1: in what you're going to expect from them, and and

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen arguably is a totally different kind of player.

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Speaker 1: But I think that mccaren was signed with the idea

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Speaker 1: that he could well be the starting quarterback, and then

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Speaker 1: obviously they drafted Josh Allen. But I think in this

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Speaker 1: case it makes sense to keep three because you just

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Speaker 1: don't really have any idea about Nathan Peterman. You have

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Speaker 1: a sense of what he could be, but he started

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Speaker 1: one game in the league, and Josh Allen has started

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Speaker 1: no games in the NFL. Quarterback still needs to be

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Speaker 1: named as a starter for the Buffalo Bills are Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll today was about what the depth chart, what the

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Speaker 1: depth chart would look like if you Bills fans got

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Speaker 1: to pick. A lot of people thought Nathan Peterman was

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Speaker 1: going to start along with that Josh Allen as his

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Speaker 1: backup and McCarron as the number three. Some of them

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Speaker 1: had mccarroen and Peterman turned around, and of course there's

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Speaker 1: always the vocal minority in this case of the people

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Speaker 1: who think Josh Allen should start and they should leave

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Speaker 1: him in and go with it. We'll see. The Bills

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Speaker 1: are cutting thirty four players from their roster today and

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Speaker 1: tomorrow four o'clock. Tomorrow's the deadline. Uh, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens over the weekend. We're gonna continue that. What lookout,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back Labor Day and then we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that to uh. I gotta I'm gonna have a lot

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Speaker 1: of news on those cuts on the website tomorrow too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Oh yeah, wow, you're laughing at me

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Speaker 1: for working Tomorrow's right, you just laughed. I'm laughing with you,

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Speaker 1: not at you. Anyway. We thank our production assistant George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, act Thomas Holland or Kelly Rude, J J

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Speaker 1: Rid and of course the super producer Jay Harris Long

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Krgis and James Robill. MURF and I are

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Speaker 1: gonna be back Monday on Labor Day. Murph's gonna be

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Speaker 1: working those of the Grindstone tomorrow, but until then, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. This has been One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio